Digital Remains Puzzle

[clear forge]

:(*

[alpine galleon]

i wanna know what he says at the start

"welcome to the style you haven't seen in a while it's lavish...
??????"
then the first verse

sounds something like "keep iiiit comiiin'" but i couldn't find it anywhere

[gusty grove]

some ppl hear "feelinggg gourmettt"

if i'm thinking of the right part

[coral nebula]

I think it is "keep it comin"

[violet cliff]

I'm pretty sure it says feeling gourmet on genius at least

[cinder steppe]

Given myself a migraine from all this theorising and puzzling tbh
(No pun intended 😉😉)

[leaden temple]

No saaaame

I had such a headache after spending 12 hours working AND deep diving into TOP lore

I was like definitely shouldn't do that again

[fickle basalt]

It's true omgggg I got a migraine working on the figma

[leaden temple]

It's soooo much to try and understand

[cinder steppe]

I know my brain is rotted because I was in the bathroom and saw these numbers at the bottom of a sign and immediately thought
‘IS THIS A CLUE’

[worldly swallow]

PFFFF

So glad I haven't done that at my job 😭😭

[cinder steppe]

Have you created a theory discussion thread for this?

[earnest dome]

noooooo praying for u lol

[leaden temple]

I have not yet

[worldly swallow]

I read that wrong and I thought u were hating on her for praying or smth 😭😭

[fickle basalt]

Guys we're losing it

[leaden temple]

Just made one!

[leaden temple]

This ship might be sinking but at least we're all in the same boat

[gilded hemlock]

guys, is there a connection between the silver weighted sun and the moon from the clancy archives?

all the archives i believe have the actual date and MOON stuff, maybe is just a connection between clancy writing the notes with moonlight

[dusk cloud]

anyone find any relevance with the eyes?

[proper bridge]

Those eyes are the bane of my existence

[gilded hemlock]

I think that the number of the eyes didn't lead to anything in particular but they do have a lot of meaning

Lyrics, songs, mv and stuff

[fickle basalt]

Has the reverse theory only been applied to this album? I'm just curious if maybe it could apply to the lore playlist that's on youtube

Think the curiosity lies in the random thought I'd had the other day about heavydirtysoul happening after paladin strait

[gilded hemlock]

Could be, nico captures clancy, and uses a vessel to drive him back to dema. The vessel crosses torchbearer and with his help frees clancy and they go to trench. Another cycle

[fickle basalt]

Yeah it was a thought I definitely didn't know if it holds any weight, though we are all at the point where we're just throwing ideas out there so I figured I'd share

[gilded hemlock]

"But it's fun to fantazise" yeah no shit tyler 🤣

[cinder steppe]

God I feel that

[proper bridge]

Like this is me

[fickle basalt]

That's all of us LMAO

[dusk cloud]

I dont think I've seen this combo yet. The photo in color is the only one I can find of the back of Tyler's head. The photo it connects to looks like it is him facing away from the camera, but hard to tell. I think the smoke lines up correctly though!

[gilded hemlock]

Does anyone have the page like this? http://www.dmaorg.info/found/15398642_14/clancy.html/

[cinder steppe]

Ahhaha me last night I went to sleep seeing the god damn DR photos

[proper bridge]

UHHH YES

[cinder steppe]

You might be cooking with this

[proper bridge]

It was NOT like that earlier wtf

[cinder steppe]

It wasn’t like that last night

Oh shiiiiiii

[fickle basalt]

It loads fine for me 😭

[cinder steppe]

http://www.dmaorg.info/found/15398642_14/clancy.html

Is it any different on this link

[proper bridge]

It does load there

[gilded hemlock]

Thank youiuu

[limber path]

I think we're not giving enough importance to the line "I created this world to feel some control, destroy it if I want." The fact that it was reused in overcompensate I don't think is a coincidence. And with what Tyler said about many of us not liking the ending, my theory is that it could apply a Truman Show and everything could be a simulation or that all happened in his imagination

[proper bridge]

Dream/sleep theory!!🫡

[fickle basalt]

I'd have to kill him

[cinder steppe]

I also haven’t been able to shake the significance of clues we got out of the paladin mv teaser
The blinking (Morse code)
PAGES

There is something right in front of our eyes and it is driving me insane

[cinder steppe]

I keep coming back to that line too

[gilded hemlock]

I think he could mean to destroy it from the inside, the dreams are going to be there no matter what "the space between, a painful reminder, a terrible dream"

"To feel some control", he´s no longer a passenger in the backseat, he´s the driver now and that phrase being in overcompensate can be the significance to it, he has full control over it, he´s OP haha

[fickle basalt]

Well when's the tour he promised in routines 😭

I'm ready to be shown why he does thissss

[proper bridge]

Navigating: I can't seem to turn the page

ALSO 🤨 has it been brought up you can hear birds chirping in Good Day and its pretty similar to the birds in Paladin....

[cinder steppe]

TRUEEEEEE

[gilded hemlock]

holy shit

they do sound similar

theres a difference in pitch, the birds from good day sound more deep, like fabricated, in ps they´re more natural, real

[dusk cloud]

Okay so I knew the birds lined up with DEMA on fire and the birds with Clancy, but I just saw that the birds from DEMA not on fire also line up with DEMA on fire, but you have to lower it. This is what it looks like with all 3 layered. I don't know the significance of having so many layers, but hopefully this all means something some day 😄

[proper bridge]

YOOOOO I NEVER THOUGHT TO LAYER THAT 3RD ONE

[dusk cloud]

The one with Clany on it adds some lines through two of the towers. Not sure which ones they technically are, but might be important?

[rare cairn]

Not sure if you saw it already, but that 'fire' thing (to me it looks like a weird bug with long legs) fits on the red collage-style image. Could be interesting to combine what you have with what I have on that

Here the part on the red collage where it show the fire

[azure grove]

This comment got me thinking about the validity of what we’re seeing. I was really stuck on the whole “so few, so proud, so emotional” bit of paladin strait. I went and listened to fairly local and this line stood out to me: “tomorrow I’ll switch the beat to avoid yesterday’s dance”. We’ve seen in the digital remains puzzle where it says “when the beat switched from 120/95 I came alive” and I feel like there is more there we’re missing. What if this is all fake and they’re gonna undo what we’ve seen so far?

[leaden temple]

It's possible but I don't know

[leaden temple]

YES I MENTIONED THIS TO @proper bridge THE OTHER DAY!

[leaden temple]

Except maybe not the 'undo' part

[gilded hemlock]

Fake in which way?

[proper bridge]

The last 2 letters we get arent signed by Clancy so someone else could be running the show

Also this is a possibility #theories message

[azure grove]

Fake in the sense that we aren’t seeing the ~real~ story of events.

I guess a better way to clarify what im saying is what if we’re gonna get a rewind of some sort? Maybe not in the sense of the literal timeline being wound backwards, but that we’re gonna take a step back and the series of events we have come to know from this era are not canon if that makes sense?

[gilded hemlock]

But this given the connection between the switch the beat of fairly local and the switch of the beat in overcompensate? I don't fully understand this events leading to a fake story? I'm sleepy

[proper bridge]

You could include Chlorine "This beat is a chemical"

[azure grove]

Hmm let me think how to make sense of what’s going on in my head. I guess when I think of the lyrics from fairly local to overcompensate there is some significance (at least to me) of the beat switching, especially because it’s pointed out in the digital remains. When he says “tomorrow I’ll switch the beat to avoid yesterday’s dance” it makes me think that the events of the paladin with Nico’s hands around Clancy neck could be reversed somehow? As in he doesn’t want to repeat these events and the beat switch (whatever significance that holds) will rectify it in some way? Idk im also just throwing whatever at the wall to see what sticks. Sorry for any confusion!

I guess long story short im drawing connections between lyrics to allude to more storyline based on what we’ve been given so far.

[gilded hemlock]

I think I understand now, there is connection between fairly local and overcompensate (fpe and the beat switch) but in fairly local we see this two sides/counterparts between blurryface (nico) and clancy most likely. "I'm evil to the core" "I'm not evil to the core", and the part you're pointing out "Tomorrow I'll keep a beat and repeat yesterday's dance" "Tomorrow I'll switch the beat to avoid yesterday's dance". So we see this 2 persons/entities/personalities that they're different and one wants to keep the same and the other wants to change, wants to save people. So in overcompensate, the beats switch tempo, and we fully know that this person is clancy prepared to face blurry. That is the connection that makes more sense to me. But days ago I pointed out the possibility of blurry and clancy switching sides so it depends on the pov and other stuff

[proper bridge]

Also oddly enough Semi-Automatic, "Im double sided"

Also the last page in digital remains still feels very important

Also It still doesnt make sense that DR meant "NOTHING" at all to begin with and the teaser basically showed the whole video minus a few parts....so why bother making it in the first place??

[rare cairn]

Well it also gave us the final chapter clue

[proper bridge]

Well it gave us another hint at the final chapter, people knew about it since the fan exhibit they did

Im talking about this

[rare cairn]

Yeah this one is really strange

[gilded hemlock]

Doubt is starting to sound more cryptic

I could be cooking

Idk

[proper bridge]

Its giving bishops

[gilded hemlock]

Honestly

[gilded hemlock]

Vialism

Gnawing?

What is that?

Claw our way? Clancy/nico?

[proper bridge]

You know Josh did saw weve been following the antagonist for awhile, and this on focuses more on the protagonist??

[gilded hemlock]

Maybe clancy/nico disrupted the original meaning of vialism and corrupted all the other bishops but not keons

[proper bridge]

👀 Maybe.....its possible thats what Blurryface in terms of Lore is about

[gilded hemlock]

"Shaking hands with the dark parts of my thoughts, no, you're all that I've got, no"

"Don't forget about me, even when I doubt you"

[proper bridge]

Yooo I think me and @rare cairn just cooked 👀

[rare cairn]

#1213244361320439828 message

[proper bridge]

I'll bring this next part here because it has to do with DR

But Drag Path is the only lyric page inverted and its page 65 (not sure if that meand anything)

And I never realized till now the two pics after that are essentially the same Clancy looking at Torchbearer

[gilded hemlock]

Good job guys

[rare cairn]

But what is the connection to Routines in the Night? Because those pages go together

[proper bridge]

👀 that old version of Routines sounds like Trapdoor

I'm trapped against the wall that stands opposite the door

Anddd they've been playing Trapdoor on tour

[proper bridge]

Yoo I brought that up ages ago

[gilded hemlock]

Devil's eyes

Oh

[proper bridge]

#1252689799597392014 message

Same jacket from Routines....

[rare cairn]

Page 65 -> 6+5 = 11, the 11 letters that Tyler tweeted (and later deleted)

[gilded hemlock]

Critical path drag

There are lyrics on genius

[proper bridge]

....Delay.....

[proper bridge]

Hmmm

[gilded hemlock]

"Shifting eyes" as seizing eyes?

[proper bridge]

Perhaps

A reminder of the email we got with DR....

Enjoy the deep dive into the album. Welcome to the inner circle.

......7 words than 5 words......... 7/5

Wasnt there a clue back in trench about not knowing Nico's real name??

That gif of the cheetah running

[proper bridge]

And I bring up trap door because those OG lyrics for Routines releates to Trapdoor but also Snap back, Vignette

[regal oxide]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 5!

[proper bridge]

Wait "Gather around for a show" > "I'll give you a tour and show you why" > "Welcome back to the show"

[lucid valley]

I think that’s simply a still from the scene when Clancy climbed out of the tunnel. You can see the same dirt in front of him in the PS mv

Though, not used in the mv (this special shot)

[proper bridge]

Hmmm I dont think so that tunnel is all brick/stone

And when he climbs out its the same thing

[lucid valley]

But you can’t see the floor in this shot

Same “wool” dirt

[proper bridge]

You'd still be able to see some of the gray peeking through the dirt also it looks a bit to short and you dont see a lot of the same dirt behind him....

And you'd be able to see a little bit of the lid near his hand

[lucid valley]

Idk, that was my explanation

It’s a bts shot they used, I think

And the 65/70 mm film could have hinted to the cinematic mv

[steel berry]

hmm. not sure that uncovered anything other than josh's chest, but it was worth a shot.

[fickle basalt]

Idk if anyone’s interested but maybe it’s easier to see this way

I just inverted the colors on drag path

[gilded hemlock]

[cinder steppe]

That’s what I thought too when I first saw that shot

[proper bridge]

Idk it just doesmt look quite right

....MAYBE its from whatever's coming next 👀

[cinder steppe]

I do see what you mean though

[dapper crest]

WOOHOO YEAHHHH

[fickle basalt]

Oh that image alone makes me miss the concerts

[azure grove]

this is a stretch but has anyone noticed anything with the live songs/album that we got with the digital remains that might help with this? i tried listening to the live version of overcompensate but it’s hard to make anything out of over the crowd

[cinder steppe]

Was going to ask this yesterday
Similar to how we got the 2 live songs added to vessel for a short time

But I don’t think anyone found anything significant in the DR live songs or album

[proper bridge]

I wanna see if maybe theres something in the metadata fot DR?

"Evidence for you to discover"....Drag Path....maybe we need to look at Levitate again???

[azure grove]

okay so two things to note (my apologies if this has already been mentioned by someone else) after rewatching the overcompensate video:

1. there is a light that is flickering in the background of this scene but isn’t the rest of the mv. could it be Morse code?
2. Tyler’s face lights up at the very end - why? what’s happening in front of him?

oops I didn’t mean to tag you im sorry

[proper bridge]

For number 2 its because the banditos in Navigating show up

I cant remember if someone solved the morse code in Overcompensate

[azure grove]

shit you’re right my bad. there is so much to go through that im losing the grip on basics

[proper bridge]

Your good!

[silk badger]

i never noticed the flickering light whoa

[azure grove]

I’ve been trying to see if I can copy down the flickers but tbh im not good with Morse code so ya girl is STRUGGLING

[silk badger]

i believe in you 🙏🏻

[proper bridge]

Hey I found this on reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/twentyonepilots/comments/1b39xfs/comment/kswx0ix/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Also do we know why there are - and _ in image names and even the error page

[azure grove]

you are a real one

[azure grove]

I wondered before if the periods and dashes maybe come up with something but couldn’t figure it out

[rare cairn]

There's a whole thread here #1247352280618106880 message

[proper bridge]

Yooo thank you!

Not there being 25 files nsknfkand

OH! I noticed this awhile ago

Website

Digital Remains

The 60 page Journal

[cinder steppe]

Yes I’ve been staring at that for the longest time trying to work out why it’s repeated 4 times

And the random capital E always bugged me

[steel berry]

Doubles each time. next we'll get it repeated eight times.

[cinder steppe]

Anyone find anymore DR photos that line up recently?

[rare cairn]

This one has a double match for both sets of eyes on the lyrics image

And I found all of these matching based on the red and yellow tape, and the photo of them standing in a field (this one is in there 3 times in different ways)

[cinder steppe]

Yes I had those lining up too with the tape

[rare cairn]

I keep messing around with different layer effects when images are overlayed hoping that some random glitch will reveal itself but alas, no luck haha

Not sure if this was shared already, but if you invert the colors on Page 26 (the red collage), it's easier to spot another eye picture on the bottom

[proper bridge]

That eye picture is in the 60 page journal 👀

[cinder steppe]

This imagine brings me back again to the trial evidence
All of this looks like scattered images from the journals obviously but again this is all evidence used in Clancy’s trial?

[proper bridge]

Thats what im thinking!

The 60 page Journal seems more like a case study

Also the way this picture lines up with the note 🧐

[cinder steppe]

I may be a broken record with this but
Going over the Drag Path lyrics again with the evidence / trial documents in mind it feels like we are being told to find Clancy
“With evidence I planted (left there) on purpose”
“I’m confident you will find me”
We need to use the evidence (Dema Clancy trial evidence) to find Clancy (hidden somewhere dmaorg?)
“A drag path that leads to my prison”
“In confident, you’ll find me” meaning we must find him

Drag path - Jumpsuit mv Clancy being dragged by Nico
In the “I am Clancy” video “but this drag path was different” (breaking the cycle because the banditos were watching)
Then there Devil eyes - red eyes? Clancy being Seized

[gilded hemlock]

In levitate we see another drag path

[proper bridge]

Ngl Levitate lyrics sound more like a bishop song song at some parts

[gilded hemlock]

Is levitate fully disected? (Idk if thats the right word)

[proper bridge]

It is on genius.com

Your structure compensates
But compensation feels a lot like rising up to dominate by track two
At least they all know all they hear comes from a place

I just noticed this in Levitate

[gilded hemlock]

There were interpretations about god, music industry and the one that I liked the most was about the line "we are not just graffiti on a passing train" here's the link about that

https://www.reddit.com/r/twentyonepilots/s/ScBjodsWSN

[cinder steppe]

Mf Tyler has been hinting at overcompensate for such a long time it’s only now we have it that we can see

[gilded hemlock]

Your structure compensates come from the line "chorus verse chorus verse" which resembles the music that follows the same structure and only compensates "feels a lot like rising up to dominate" in the music industry, but, "by track two" (off of trench) "at least they all know" (we, fans) "all they hear comes from a place" (tyler's heart and creativity)

[timber marten]

i just read the drag path lyrics again and 2 things jumped out at me

1. I'm here again, conscious but defenseless/worthless -
   if this were to follow paladin strait it makes me think clancy is back in dema again conscious this time so maybe meaning not controlled by dema/the bishops but defenseless/worthless maybe meaning he still can't get out on his own?
   and 2. I dug my heels next to each other just makes me think of the vignette video but I'm not seeing any big dots that connect there I think that's just word association in my mind lol

[gilded hemlock]

He's worthless, defenseless without ned's antlers?

[timber marten]

ohhhh maybe?

[coral nebula]

There's also a connection in LOC(lfo) "You ask me if it's real, I see your shifting eyes. You're digging in your heels, I dig my hole to d!e"

[cinder steppe]

TRUUUUEEE

[timber marten]

speaking of drag path has anyone looked into this? I don't know if it means anything

without digging really deep my initial thought is that it could relate to the delayed release of the album and paladin strait mv not being early june?

[gilded hemlock]

Yesterday I searched it and didnt understan much tbh hehe

[gilded hemlock]

This too

Float

Delay

Weird

[timber marten]

i wouldnt say i understand it well but it seems like it's a way to calculate how long it takes to finish a project and how much time each task adds to the total time

beyond that i don't really get it

[gilded hemlock]

We do have a delay

Paladin strait and the birds

Is a delay in the very song

WE COOKIN'

[timber marten]

and float also refers to delay in the project management context

[gilded hemlock]

Just joking haha

[proper bridge]

"Pardon my delay"

[gilded hemlock]

Im navigating the path

[timber marten]

lol if "without any floatation" means no delay then I guess we're swimming the paladin strait asap

[timber marten]

fr I have a lot of thoughts that have not lead anywhere and idk if I'm just going crazy from overanalysis at this point lol

[gilded hemlock]

Without any floatation means that within having a delay, it doesnt mean the real date for completion have delayed

We do have a lot of numbers and stuff

When i get home (you better not be there) i'll look into the critical path drag, hopefully i can at least entertaing (my faith) myself

[timber marten]

low-key been thinking about going through all the mvs to look at all the different numbers they hold up on their fingers to see if that's something

[proper bridge]

Hmmm I keep thinking about them including My Blood at the end of Navigating, they did something similar with The Outside and Migraine.....

[azure grove]

straight up be doing this and getting no where with it. although when I was rewatching routines mv and noticed the white shirt he’s wear that has a dmaorg url made me think we need to revisit all of the mvs.

[timber marten]

from memory i just remember a lot of 2s and the 300 from overcompensate and that doesn't seem like a lot to go off but I might rewatch to see if there are more

[timber marten]

looking at the lyrics, not videos i think these are all the numbers if anyone wants to look into that lol

[proper bridge]

Im pretty sure he wears that shirt with the code in Midwest and he has the badge on in Oldies Station

[gilded hemlock]

[coral nebula]

Midwest also has "twice" via the councilor line

[timber marten]

oops yeah I missed that one

[coral nebula]

Routines also technically has "one" ("I'll probably jump on the next one") but I'm not sure if it would count?

[timber marten]

yeah hang on let me add those

[coral nebula]

Backslide also mentions "one" in a couple of lines

But something I've noticed while looking back at the lyrics is that most of them mention some form of time(days, nights, years, etc) or waiting

[kind ravine]

"What's your ETA?"
"2 MINUTES🗣️🔥"

[proper bridge]

So I was looking at this image again just going through all the trench era images and I know the numbers were used also to spell out Trench but I just looked at words next to all the numbers and I got this
5: sentence
8: hijacked
14: significant
18: strangled
3: penance
20: tomb

[gilded hemlock]

Oh my

Oh my

Pardon my delay

Haha

Sentence about a hijack to the significant (nico) made by the strangled (clancy) punished by the penance of death, entombed

[proper bridge]

When I put them in order of the numbers I got: penance sentence hijacked significant strangled tomb

[tepid storm]

hey all, any newsss?

[regal oxide]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 1!

[proper bridge]

Nothing super new yet

[timber marten]

I'm still thinking about this hours later lol if this is right it seems that there would be 2 main possibilities imo

1. clancy got over confident and overcompensated going in underprepared to face the bishops and got caught bc of that
   OR
2. he knew exactly what he was doing and got caught by nico intentionally and left a trail for the banditos to follow into the city so they can take it down from the inside somehow

both seem plausible in my mind rn and either way could lead to torchbearer coming into dema to get clancy and burn the city down

[cinder steppe]

True true
We still have the city burning in the DR and references to burning in the music (I need to go back and make a list of these mentions)

If this is meant to be the ending to the story and Clancy is trying to break the cycle it makes sense that he opened his eyes to look at Nico - to confront him
I feel he has a secret weapon this time to prevent the cycle from being repeated

[steel berry]

to me, the my blood bit at the end of navigating says torchbearer is definitely coming as backup

[cinder steppe]

Also the discussion of torchbearer/Josh in the background/blurred in the album cover and standing behind Clancy/tyler or turned away in the DR is pretty significant

He is Clancy’s shadow literally and metaphorically

Always there to help him when he needs

Also the bloody footprints on the ground as he goes to the tower is pretty significant

[steel berry]

literally his blood!?

someones blood anyway

[cinder steppe]

Yes I think it’s possible Clancy’s blood from past attempts to defeat Nico

[timber marten]

yeah this "ending" is so open ended i think it seems so unlikely that there isn't going to be something more i like the double album theory but even if it's not a whole other album i think there's something else coming

and yes part of my thoughts above came directly from thinking about the dema burning images

clancy opening his eyes and more importantly his eyes not changing seems to imply nico doesn't hold the same power over him any more but also he's still got his hands on his neck so it's not like clancy has an upper hand either - maybe more like they're evenly matched this time? idk

I'm blind I never noticed the blood

[cinder steppe]

The feeling I got at the end was either they are evenly matched or Clancy has a trick up his sleeve
Or maybe the drag path lyrics suggest WE need to find him after this battle with Nico in PS

Also him dropping the antlers gets me every time

[timber marten]

yes agreed that they're either on the same level or clancy is about to do something nico doesn't know he can do maybe

[summer prawn]

Have we gotten anything out of the only band in the world thing

[earnest dome]

the what now

[worn finch]

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[earnest dome]

oh

[worn finch]

i think everyone is traumatised by the 6/25 thing and don’t want to be delulu again😭

[earnest dome]

yeah

[tacit topaz]

#1213244361320439828 message

[timber marten]

I think some people signed up for the email list so I guess we'll find out in a couple of days

[timber marten]

yeah could be relevant since the album release was delayed and then "early june"

[regal oxide]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 1!

[tacit topaz]

OMG FINALLY UNLOCKED this is like day 5 (easily probably more) I've tried messaging here!

@earnest dome when was it when we were talking about it? I've tried every single day since including yesterday I almost LOST a message I really liked because I sent it here and it didn't work

[earnest dome]

YAY

I LOVE THAT FOR U

[cinder steppe]

That’s so strange I’ve seen other people locked out of this chat before idk

[lucid valley]

GUYS! I usually don’t use capitals, but:
there are only 4 pngs in all exported 126 pics. With the numbers
19 27 48 88
When you arrange them to build a normal IP address like so:
192.74.88.8 and do a whois search it shows it is an IP from COLUMBUS, OHIO. Coincidence????

https://www.whois.com/whois/192.74.88.8

[steel berry]

Oh heyyyyy 48 is the one with writing over Clancy's face I was obsessing over.

[lucid valley]

The IP doesn’t resolve to a website. I have quite a bit knowledge on web stuff but I’m no expert. Anybody?

[fervent tulip]

We doxxing random people now huh 💀😂 but that's interesting

[lucid valley]

Nah, it’s not doxxing to type an IP 😂

[timber marten]

the physical address on here is 3990 E. Broad Street is Columbus, OH is this

there's a taco bell nearby but no other tøp connections are jumping out at me 😅

[lucid valley]

Oops… TOP is now recruiting soldiers for the last fight against DEMA by making honeypots?

[steel berry]

The building in satellite view kinda looks like a gun. Clancy shoots Nico.
Or it's an upside down L. L for Lavish!

[edgy canopy]

The torches of the banditos aren’t enough to burn the city down yk

[timber marten]

lol i did look at street view to see if i saw any signs from lavish or something 😅

[lucid valley]

How did you connect the IP to that location?

[steel berry]

it's mentioned in the whois link

[timber marten]

followed the whois link

idk a lot about IPs or anything so I just googled the address lol

[lucid valley]

Yes ok, but there‘s a golf club at that address… strange

[rare cairn]

Btw both 192.74.8.88 and 192.74.88.8 belong to that same address which is also curious

These IPs were registered in 1990, not sure if this will lead to anything. Defs an interesting find though

[shut flower]

the ZIP is wrong tho, on the site is 43218 but on maps is 43213

[rare cairn]

I'm trying to SSH or FTP onto the server with clancy as username but no luck

[timber marten]

i do see the golf course now but it's like surrounded by military/government offices so i think maybe it was part of a base there? who knows

[earnest frost]

Helloooo, something new?

[timber marten]

I noticed that too and both zip codes are columbus so idk

when you zoom in on the satellite view this area looks fenced in so i think it's all a military complex

[lucid valley]

DON‘T! It’s the DOD

the DOD has the whole NetRange from 192.74.0.0 to 192.74.126.255

[timber marten]

I don't know if the IP is anything related to tøp but the name of the golf course I think you're talking about is eagle eye are we delulu enough to make a connection there?

[steel berry]

EYES?

MORE EYES???

[lucid valley]

LMAO it’s actually a military golf club

[rare cairn]

whoopsie daisy 😳

[lucid valley]

Just a crazy coincidence I think, damn

[lucid valley]

I‘m not delulu enough…

[shut flower]

I think the golf club is administered by the DEFENSE SUPPLY CENTER COLUMBUS

https://www.defensemwr.com/columbus/programs-services/eagle-eye-golf-club

[steel berry]

lmao at the dinosaur mascot

[lucid valley]

So don‘t shoot at me if you follow that drag path/rabbit

[timber marten]

yeah i thought it looked like it was fenced in the eagle eye thing was mostly a joke

[lucid valley]

An „Eagle“ is 2 under par in golf terms

If it was Vulture Eye Golf Club I would be REALLY alarmed

But URL aside: did you guys find something before regarding these 4 pngs?

[steel berry]

https://tenor.com/view/palla-deserto-desert-hot-gif-6014273

i'm guessing no 😂

[steel berry]

I did get excited for a minute when I ran them through an online EXIF viewer and it gave me filenames, but it turned out it was just generating random ones every time i reuploded them.

[lucid valley]

I'm becoming more and more familiar with the trial theory. And that the ARG everyone is hoping for is already here: right in front of our eyes!
Bc I wasn't involved in puzzling on figma I don't know whether you discussed the following point:
There's the cover image with snippets and the red one (25) that can be overlaid to reveal the bottom part of the cover image. But the upper part is still covered by the red tape.
But why are all the documents and photos torn up in the first place? ... to me it looks like someone wanted to destroy evidence. Maybe it was just a cool design idea, but I don’t think so.

[cinder steppe]

This is what I was thinking when my brain started going down the trial rabbit hole

Destroying the evidence by why
Dema wouldn’t want to destroy it
And what do we see repeated across all those torn up pages?
In 26 (red torn up pages) and 119 (Clancy Ultimus) we get photos of eyes

But in image 1 we don’t necessarily get eyes unless it is these? And if it is these then one of them is next to the word evidence

[cinder steppe]

Idk maybe that’s a stretch but that’s where my brain went

[leaden temple]

Been gone a minute, DR Puzzle chat. What did I miss?

[steel berry]

we all got a little excited over the pngs leading to an ip address, but nothing really came out of it.

[lucid valley]

Regarding the wording „evidence“: as I know it’s tending more to „clue“ but is no „proof“, right? If that’s true it’s hinting but not a fact. This could lead to the thought that the DEMA authority has gathered material against Clancy, but they can’t speak a verdict of guilty yet. Please native speakers can you confirm? If right, I can imagine it being a stronger hint for us, to also gather more…

[proper bridge]

Pretty much! They word it like its an ongoing investigation!

[real plaza]

Which 4 images are these?

[lucid valley]

19 27 48 88 (it can differ whether you count the pages or the actual pics inside the pdf)

[real plaza]

Also I see people using ARG all the time… what does it stand for?

[lucid valley]

Alternate Reality Game

[stable chasm]

Wait so guys

This puzzle is done

Correct?

[proper bridge]

Ngl im not sure....

[stable chasm]

Kinda seemed like a small ass puzzle ngl

Wish they just made another loc

That’s what I’m hoping for the last song

Just a harder loc puzzle

[proper bridge]

Its part of why I think this isnt really over just yet

[real plaza]

I think there’s more to the puzzle. I’ve found some matchups but haven’t been able to connect it all

[lucid valley]

I also (want to) believe there’s more in it.

Got something I want to share with you (cause it MIGHT add to finding pics in pics lol)

The bf digital version cover is sus

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18dCOrIIhDaH6PheYWE_53Hl2XuAELAKK/view?usp=drive_link

The "drops/eyes" were discovered 2019 by a pinterest user. Someone on twitter later discovered that the drops match 100% exactly with the eyes of Trash on the SAI cover (without even rotating it).
Could be a coincidence? Yes, very likely, because it would be crazy if they already had Trash in their quiver in 2015.
BUT (link to my pdf showing the following)
The "drop" is a copy of the other, so while making this new version of the cover (the Vinyl one and the CD one are both completely black without this strange grunge overlay) the graphic artist copied many parts of the used image. At exactly the place it then matches with the dragon pic? There was NO need at first place to copy all this parts. If it was a grunge cover they used which in the end went almost completely black, all this was obsolete. Or REALLY sloppy editing.
And what are these geometric (photo collage?) structures in the lower right corner?
And why did they create a new version at all?

[real plaza]

I was JUST looking at those “drops” on the cover of the new “standard black vinyl” version of BF which is missing goner. Have you checked that out? There are other graphic anomalies, like very thin lines going through some of the circles

[lucid valley]

These lines… I prolonged them but couldn’t see any hint

[real plaza]

The pdf you shared doesn’t allow access…

[lucid valley]

Oh sorry! I‘ll look into this

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18dCOrIIhDaH6PheYWE_53Hl2XuAELAKK/view?usp=sharing

[lucid valley]

Should work now

[real plaza]

This is crazy, I was literally just studying this, I’m going to have to go deeper with the digital remains later

[lucid valley]

Maybe I should add the pic with the lines here. You guys maybe see connections I didn’t

[leaden temple]

Okay so we're finding two or three images that fit together right? But they don't go any further? Like we can't find a clear path for a large chunk of numbers to fit together... in the Live of Guns For Hands that was on Vessel for a short time Tyler said "I hope you're not done cause we aren't either." That could have been leading us to Morph with the line "Not Done". In Morph Tyler also sings about "Ones and Zeros" i.e. The Binary..... I'm nowhere near smart enough to fully comprehend if this is possible but have we thought about looking at DR like a binary tree? Does that make sense? Is that possible?

[lucid valley]

How do you get to the tree?

I already tried a lot with binary code by dissecting the pictures in dichotomies. But of course not with all possibilities.

[leaden temple]

My friend who's really into all that computer stuff mentioned it to me at work earlier and I was just very curious if it could mean anything here

[real plaza]

Ooooohh I like this idea… especially since it seems like some of the DR only connect with one other image…

[real plaza]

There’s another thread on Reddit mentioning the words “ghost” coming up a lot, “I’m just a ghost” from Morph could mean something?

[lucid valley]

That idea came up really early bc of the two twin pairs

[real plaza]

Every time I hear the ones and zeros line I’m like WHY TYLER.

[urban aurora]

is anybody listening????? ^

[lucid valley]

To really make connections of pairs meaningful for a path to a solution we first have to find the right category of connecting pairs

[leaden temple]

I was just going to ask about this

[lucid valley]

That’s what I mentioned weeks ago

But I was too busy jobwise

[leaden temple]

I must have missed that

[lucid valley]

There are so many subchannels now lol

[leaden temple]

For real it's so hard to keep up with all of them

[lucid valley]

The doublettes are still no error for me but a hint

btw has someone a good copy of the letter which was sent out to a few? I‘m too lazy to search

[regal oxide]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 5!

[lucid valley]

I am pretty sure the DR pics and the trial theory is somehow connected

evidences!!

The title pic shows the torn pieces… they obviously placed it at the start

The „cold case“ we have to investigate in

„Can you build my house with pieces“

[real plaza]

Someone else mentioned this somewhere…

[real plaza]

Absolutely! And I wasn’t able to get into this chat until today, I followed some of the rabbit holes but wasn’t able to participate

[proper bridge]

Ive been saying this too its like a case study and some of the letters are legit copies and scans of letters

Like this letter

And its oddly blurred

[proper bridge]

Ive been screaming this but then people say it doesnt mean anything like

[leaden temple]

No I think you've been right this whole time, I think it definitely does mean something

[proper bridge]

Trial Theory is my all time favorite theory!!! And DR (while including alot of stuff that was for the album shoots and stuff) is obviously more than just images

[leaden temple]

DEFINITELY

[proper bridge]

Also this is why I ended up down a Goner rabbit hole because we found the site from a vessel gif....

Wait.....

I just realized that one letter basically says its a citizen's job to take excessive measures in attempting to correct or make amends for an error, weakness, or problem. (Obviously Overcompensate) which is why its asking for any information...

So im guessing this would be the citizens we see learning from Clancy in Overcompensate

[leaden temple]

Oooooohhhhhh

Also the fact Goner is missing off Blurryface.... I'm sure it's been said but it's like they're trying to tell us there's a song missing off Clancy

On the track list for the vinyl on the sight

[proper bridge]

I lowkey think its more so the fact that Goner first came out right before Vessel came out 👀

[leaden temple]

Okay random thing I noticed guys... at work we have surveillance cameras to monitor the machines right? Well I noticed this code on the side which reminds me of the code we found that lead to PS teaser.... the higher number is first and always the same on every camera but the number after the decimal point is always different..... what if the first number - 103 stays the same but we change the SECOND number....

The reason this struck me as odd is because the PS teaser was very washed out and there were redacted parts. What if it was surveillance footage?

What if there is more "surveillance footage" for us to find from different surveillance cameras but all hooked up to the same system???

[lucid valley]

Hey guys, i was in a timeout thing for an hour and couldn’t post. The mods I messaged said it was kind of a glitch bc they changed something with the automod today for preventing invite links going out

So until they haven’t finished a rollback try to avoid links to other posts from this server (which I tried)

[leaden temple]

After all, you can't have a proper trial without all the documents and surveillance footage first

[lucid valley]

Good point

[lucid valley]

The fact that someone (Clancy? A Clancy collaborator?) managed to integrate the hidden message (still alive) in an official DEMA document made me think why there is the handwritten note on top. WHO wrote it to obviously place a hint? That’s kind of contradictory, innit?

[proper bridge]

Absolutely!!!

[real plaza]

Their surveillance is the vultures

[leaden temple]

Or so we think.... in the Ride music video there is very obviously someone watching Tyler through a screen at the end which would indicate he's been watched through surveillance cameras

Or wait what if the vultures aren't real but secretly cameras 😂 #birdsarentreal

Sorry I couldn't help myself

[real plaza]

But actually…. Except for the fact that we see the bishops seizing the birds, that would be pretty dead on

[regal oxide]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 2!

[leaden temple]

Yeah that's a good point...

[lucid valley]

But Elmer has a point here: the desaturated look of the preview video looked kind of an older survcam

[leaden temple]

The end of Ride mv has the same look to it

[lucid valley]

But I doubt the survcam code. The brand you got in your office is only one of hundreds.

[leaden temple]

Right I'm not saying that code means anything...

[lucid valley]

The trial character of it all is more intriguing

[leaden temple]

I'm saying that maybe the system with which they've been numbered could mean something

Like the first number is the system it's hooked up to, the second number is the specific camera

[real plaza]

That makes sense to me…

[lucid valley]

That’s what I meant. It’s too special, connected to a special model/brand

[real plaza]

I do think there is more to the teaser video, I don’t understand why people are so ready to write it off as if it “served its purpose”

[lucid valley]

Tbh I immediately was disappointed that they showed so much and this taking away the surprise for the real mv

[proper bridge]

YESSS omg like thats not a teaser!!!

[lucid valley]

It kind of appeared created in a rush

[proper bridge]

Which is weird and doesn't make sense like they could have easily given us a teaser like they did on twitter....

[leaden temple]

What if they wanted it to appear that way like the Bishops are Overcompensating because of what Clancy is doing

[proper bridge]

Oooo I like that

[real plaza]

I think it was deliberately to edit out certain parts, to highlight the parts the bishops don’t want us to see

[lucid valley]

Yeah, that could be the inner-lore reason, but for us fans it was too much info (my individual feelings oc)

[proper bridge]

See I get that completely but then why bother giving us a majority of the video like there was no real surprise except for the end kind of....

[real plaza]

No I mean they did it because we are supposed to do something with that information

[proper bridge]

OHHH

[lucid valley]

Like these movie teasers nowadays with all the „best“ scenes

[proper bridge]

No yeah you're definitely right

[real plaza]

Like how I found the anagram in “without any floatation” bc that’s what the warning cuts out

(Also unrelated but Ohio indigo is called Blue False Indigo and has the scientific name Baptisia australis)

[lucid valley]

What could that mean for a trial? The existence of Voldsoy!!

That’s what the knowledge of flotation would indicate: there’s something outside Trench where Clancy was coming from

[proper bridge]

But dont they already know of Voldsoy's existence??

[lucid valley]

The citizens? I doubt that

The bishops obviously

[proper bridge]

I mean the Bishops because they are the ones with the files/evidence (that we have)....

[lucid valley]

No I mean the bishops bc they had stolen the power from the neds (and maybe banned them on Voldsoy?)

Unless Clancy has tought the citizens in OC about all that. My argument vanishes lol

[proper bridge]

I THINK he did because one of the diagrams he taught them was how to seize or was the diagram for seizing

[lucid valley]

Ok what is left out in the teaser which can be explained by a reason for the bishops to hide it ?

And again: who wrote the handwritten note?

[leaden temple]

Yeahhhh like if Keons was still alive it would make sense for him to but Clancy seized him....

[leaden temple]

Hmmmm

[lucid valley]

Yes, we don’t know when the letter was created. Before or after Keons death

[proper bridge]

Ummm the zombies and the lightning scenes

[leaden temple]

Yeah... things the bishops wouldn't want people to know

[lucid valley]

What else? And what have the left out scenes in common?

But alas, we don’t know who has written the note, but we do know what it was pointing at: the vessel gif which has led to the URL

Oh.. wait

[proper bridge]

Someone made a side by side video of the teaser and Paladin i'll look for it in a sec

[lucid valley]

When I remember correctly this gif looked like a glitchy video or am I mad

I try to look at the teaser again using After Effects. There I can maybe do some light effects to maybe find something. But I have no time til Monday, damn!!

[real plaza]

The first two warnings block out shots of bandito josh and the lyrics “without any floatation” which means they removed those lyrics from the song

[proper bridge]

It did!!

[lucid valley]

It’s 1 am now and I‘m going to bed. Have a good time, guys wherever and whenever you are!

[proper bridge]

Night

[proper bridge]

It was like tv static

[lucid valley]

Yeah! Exactly

[real plaza]

So wait. That gif was found in the top store, correct?

[lucid valley]

Maybe we should make a new theory post regarding the trial theory and our last thoughts here

It’s not DR puzzle anymore lol

Ok, I‘m out

[proper bridge]

Yes accordimg to Reddit

Also did anyone else know they had a giphy page 👀

https://giphy.com/twentyonepilots

And its official

Goner is listed for RAB....

[real plaza]

Okay and then on those red letters it was handwritten “how did you find http:// ….”

The letters people got in the mail?

[proper bridge]

Yep!!!

I fORGOT FOREST HAD A VIDEO

[leaden temple]

Also do you think the fact there are 3 question marks is significant?

[proper bridge]

Maybe???

[proper bridge]

I dont know if all the letters had it but they were also hand numbered

There were 1500 sent out

[real plaza]

Well what if they are like trying to tell us to do it again? Like look at a gif or in the store or something………

This one is kinda random, from Goner

[leaden temple]

WAIT WHAT ARE THOSE TWO FLASHING DOTS?!?!?!

[real plaza]

RIGHT

Ack I am all over the place but I swear the BF album cover, the modified one without goner, has dots like that

[leaden temple]

Wait .. on one of the DR images doesn't Josh's face have a grey dot? And it's one of the duplicates?

[real plaza]

Yeah 64… weird I hadn’t noticed that yet

[leaden temple]

All these dots are the dots from all the i's tyler left undotted in HOTY 😂

[real plaza]

the dots line up but idk if it means anything 😣

something just happened... i was trying to save the image for SAI album cover and a bunch of stuff downloaded with it, is that normal?

[leaden temple]

I don't think soooo.... where did you save it from?

[proper bridge]

A reminder the street they filmed that Goner video is called Clancy Way 👀

[real plaza]

the top merch store

[proper bridge]

Wait WHAT

[leaden temple]

What downloaded with it?!?!?

[real plaza]

i just went to the cd and clicked save image, just like i did for the BF standard black vinyl, and instead of just the image i got all this computery language stuff with it

I'd share it but its a lot you should try saving the image and see if you get it too

[earnest grove]

how are you going about saving the image?
as far as I know everything on the store is basically protected so you can't just right click

[leaden temple]

I did it on my phone if you click on the image and hold down you can download it

[real plaza]

a file called "Scaled and Icy (Standard CD) - Twenty One Pilots_files"

I did right click, save image

[earnest grove]

from the actual page or the grid view?

you can't do either on chrom

only way to download the images from the store page is if you get them from the page source

[real plaza]

from the actual page, i did it in chrome

[proper bridge]

Same here

[real plaza]

i got the image of BF standard black

and then when i did the same for SAI it downloaded the whole file

[earnest grove]

I wonder if it's different based on region actually

are you in the US?

[real plaza]

yes i am

[proper bridge]

Yep

[earnest grove]

Hmm that's so weird
it's a protected image on the site I'm seeing

[real plaza]

weird

[earnest grove]

there's no save image option direct from right click

[leaden temple]

What if something is hidden there?!?!

[proper bridge]

Let me try SAI 👀

[real plaza]

I know, but its soooo much and i don't know how to read computer and what if it was just an accident??

But i was getting the image to line up with BF standard black so maybe it's something!

[leaden temple]

I feel like that should not have happened so it might be something... the image on the sight is technically a "copy" so you shouldn't have gotten a whole file for it

[proper bridge]

Which one did you download?

[real plaza]

here i'll get the link

https://store.twentyonepilots.com/products/scaled-and-icy-standard-cd

i just right clicked the cd cover image

[proper bridge]

I only got the image of the CD...but Im also on my phone so idk if thats making a difference

[real plaza]

probably

im on my macbook

it took like a good thirty seconds to download

it's a LOT it's all straight up code

and it feels like something i'm not supposed to have!

[earnest grove]

I have a feeling you might have just saved the html of the webpage

[real plaza]

It downloaded a file folder full of files

[earnest grove]

send a screenshot?

[real plaza]

this isn't even all of it

[earnest grove]

Yeah so what you did was download the entire webpage

because there isn't a save image option from the site

so you clicked "save as" on the entire page

[real plaza]

but why didn't that happen when i saved the other image

omg okay yes you are right that's what happened!!

i'm so glad you told me before i started scanning through all this 🤪

[proper bridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IigZXFhkbMM
👀 This is the video where gif came from

Uhhh that purple part is kinda suspicious 👀

[leaden temple]

"While you're bottomless???"

[proper bridge]

Hmm ok soo I found a weird parallel..... the gif changed on 4/20/2018 and and people discovered the link 4/21/2018.....he found the teaser 6/20/2024 and we got the video on 6/21/2024 👀

A concidence.....maybe.....but weird af regardless

[leaden temple]

I just realized something weird

The Craving (Single Version) is called SINGLE VERSION... why isn't the shorter version of Overcompensate called - Single? Why EDIT?

[proper bridge]

Its just because its an edited down version of OC, Single version is a whole new version of the song

[leaden temple]

I guess that makes sense

[real plaza]

wait was goner the video filmed on clancy street?

[earnest grove]

Clancy Way yeah

same as the Truce video

[real plaza]

i wonder if this gif with the two lights that line up on the BF standard black image is of clancy way

i've been messing with it, it lines up perfectly with a bunch of dots

clancy way in columbus?

[earnest grove]

yea

it's also hidden on Trash on the cover of SAI

[real plaza]

omg trash also lines up on the BF image

[leaden temple]

Can you share a copy please

[real plaza]

yeah hang on i'm going to clean it up

the clancy way part of trash doesn't land on the BF image but maybe it still means something

the BF image is just altered for contrast, it doesn't look quite right but i'm just starting

and the goner gif can fit many places, i like that one bc it lines up with the end of the album cover

[proper bridge]

Ok this us gonna be a reach but DR KEEPS repeating "Where I'm from, I was born right here, just now
Originated right in front of your eyes
If you can't see, I am Clancy"

And "Then overtake your former self"

[real plaza]

yes i noticed that too, why so many times?

[proper bridge]

Also "I created this world to feel sone control, Destory it if I want"

And Trash has Destroy on its tail 👀

[earnest grove]

Pretty sure it's because OC was finished earlier on as the lead single for the album and they were experimenting with graphics for that promotion first

[proper bridge]

My thing is why use the letters for promotion (most fans who dont explore lore wouldn't get it) like......let me phrase this differently I get these were probably more about experimenting but it just stands out to me that there is THIS much.....(also I did say it would be a reach)

Also the amount of hidden images in these....

[proper bridge]

Also the fact we keep getting soo many lyric pages for Backslide as well but nothing for Paladin or Navigating which is interesting

[alpine galleon]

at this point I'm unsure what's coincidence and what's not

we found a lot of things that weren't actually used

i don't think the vold$0y_nw code thingy was even used

[proper bridge]

I dont think it was! I know I noticed Tyler pointed north west in Navigating but idk where it connects with everything 🥴

I still think we're missing something

[leaden temple]

Saaaame

[leaden temple]

Well just because it wasn't used yet or that we haven't found it's use doesn't mean it's irrelevant. It could still mean something

[tacit topaz]

This made me think to look at my BF vinyl. It's interesting to me that there's entire patterns on the outside border of the black and white insert that you can't even see with it still inside the cover.

[proper bridge]

......damn I forgot I have a Blurryface vinyl I'll go check mine in a sec

[tacit topaz]

Another thing that got me thinking was that the "limited edition" box set for scaled and icy is still available on tøp website? It's been a while, doesn't seem like the availability was limited at all. But maybe they just didn't sell 🤷🏽‍♀️

[leaden temple]

I have the same vinyl

[leaden temple]

WAIT IS IT JUST ME OR DOES THE SECTION WHERE KEON'S CIRCLE WOULD BE LOOK LIKE EYES AND ALSO KINDA LIKE SOME OF THE REPEATING EYE PATTERNS IN DR?!?!

[tacit topaz]

Almost looks like the bottom has eyes (right above the glare)

[leaden temple]

Wait I just remembered that my Gravity Falls vinyl is red and used to decode a secret message in the booklet... I wonder if they did something similar here

My search was unsuccessful but I counted all the patterns and there are 14 total, 15 if you count the one that's a repeat

[proper bridge]

Ya know Gravity Falls should have prepared me better for this.....maybe theres something in DR??

[real plaza]

on the official gif page, if you go to "all blurryface gifs" there are no goner gifs. you have to scroll way down under the "all the twenty one pilots gifs" section to find them.

[lucid valley]

Has anyone ever tried to line up images to the lower right part of the BF pic I made? I‘m out to work now and sadly have no time

If you do, notice the 3 vertical aligned dots, just an idea

[real plaza]

yes there is a goner gif that lines up

[tacit topaz]

👀

[lucid valley]

How? Can you pls post the goner pic?

[lucid valley]

Look at the pdf I posted yesterday. There are clean images in it

[real plaza]

the two lights blinking, there's a few different places they line up

so i did some stuff and i figured out that the map of the neighborhood of clancy way can line up over the bf cover

but i'm not a graphics person so it looks bad

don't ask where i got the lines i'm too tired to explain but they are important and i think there is something to find here but i have to go to sleep, if anyone sees anything then... hooray

the map is just a screenshot from the maps app, idk how to get a better one, i'm tired

[lucid valley]

Idk which criteria you have chosen to zoom, rotate and position the map. Can you pls explain?

I tried it also and found something:

The upper line goes exactly through Clancy Way on Trash! And a screenshot from the Clancy mv with the two lights/dots, covers the birds

From second 14

[leaden temple]

WAAAIT THAT SPOT ALSO LOOKS LIKE THE CLOUDS ON THE TRENCH MAP!!!!

[cinder steppe]

Sheeeesh this chat been cooking too

[bold mango]

You cooked!

[real plaza]

Yeah sorry I had to sleep but wanted to post it up here first… if you extend the line from the logo, and draw a line through trash’s eyes, you get a specific angle that lines up with the map

[real plaza]

Maybe this line is pointing to the map, showing us we need it??

[leaden temple]

OMG I THINK WE'RE ONTO SOMETHING HERE FOR SURE

[leaden temple]

YOU ABSOLUTELY COOKED

[real plaza]

So what I did was I figured out that the album covers all fit on the BF cover (except I didn’t try vessel I forgot about it), also that gif from goner

[lucid valley]

How dows it line up with the map? The Ø angle is a common 45

[real plaza]

And it all started lining up… so I drew lines everywhere I could find lines

[lucid valley]

It must exist hundreds of ways to position the map along all these streets. The fact that the SAI cover is not rotated should give us the hint that we shouldn’t need to rotate anything

[leaden temple]

‼️

[lucid valley]

Let‘s all be clear here: you can always line up things according to an idea in your head. It must be somehow mandatory to fit

[real plaza]

The two non-perpendicular lines make an angle that exists on the map

I do t think it’s a coincidence

Also I didn’t check but it’s very possible the map had to rotate so east is up

[lucid valley]

My positioning of the goner screenshot is an example of what I mean: only bc there are two dots overlapping means NOTHING. You will find a trillion of dots on all photos. I just wanna be sure we are attentive

BUT the line pointing to Clancy Way while Trash is overlapping the drops is a hint

[leaden temple]

Am I crazy or does it look like there could be a line here too:

I.e. a dangerous bend symbol

[real plaza]

On the map? Wow maybe !!!

[lucid valley]

I‘ll show you what I‘ve meant, second…

[real plaza]

We need a better shot of the map overlaid

[leaden temple]

We do

[bold mango]

Zero I’m sorry but can you recap how you got the red grid on BF cover? I scrolled up and must have missed it.

[real plaza]

Also it’s possible all of those lines don’t mean anything, but because the images were all lining up I thought it was worth checking out

[lucid valley]

Here we go

To match Trash’s Clancy Way I had to rotate the map slightly.

[real plaza]

I figure out the album covers all fit on the BF cover, as well as a gif from goner, and they lined up with each other so I drew lines

[leaden temple]

You know what's odd? There's not a single dangerous bend symbol in DR

[real plaza]

I see what you mean, but the two road on the map creating the same angle as the two lines from the logo and trash’s eyes?

[lucid valley]

But you will ALWAYS find angles on maps that fit

[real plaza]

Not with long straight non-perpendicular lines like that

[lucid valley]

The point is it must be surprisingly obvious if you know what I mean

[lucid valley]

There are thin white lines in a couple of the 9 circles of the BF cover. I just prolonged them

Have you opened my pdf I linked yesterday? Take a look

[cinder steppe]

Wait okay those blinking dots are from what looks to be a cell tower

[lucid valley]

I’m still wondering what those regular structures in the lower right could be

[timber marten]

there's 3! unless we've missed some

[bold mango]

Will look for it, thanks

[timber marten]

they're just small

[leaden temple]

Yes if you count the times they blink 4,3,2,2,2 you get the area code for Colombus

[lucid valley]

Yes, that has bern decoded waaaaaay back

[real plaza]

You can see it on street view from Clancy way

[cinder steppe]

Okay hol up I’ll re read a bit and reassess lol

[real plaza]

Also I didn’t actually have to rotate the map, just the screenshot of the map… I didn’t check which direction is up

[regal oxide]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 3!

[timber marten]

@leaden temple #1256075556420583424 message

@sacred sigil has this really cool spreadsheet of stuff in DR #1256075556420583424 message

[leaden temple]

WHERE

[real plaza]

I wonder if that could be where the Vessel album cover goes? I didn't get to that one

[azure grove]

hey guys maybe someone already mentioned this but I was thinking about the last page in DR and something finally clicked. These weird shapes on the left side look like film perforations. Are there any other film references we know of? (sorry off topic)

[leaden temple]

IT KIND LOOKS LIKE AN X-RAYISH VERSION OF TYLER AND JOSH ON THE BACK IN THE SKELETON OUTFITS

[cinder steppe]

Okay stupid question but can I ask where the image BF cover image with the bubbles came from? As in how did we get those bubbles in the image

[lucid valley]

The bubbles appeared the first time when the BF album was published digitally

on all major platforms officially

So it shouldn’t be a fan version or something like that

A pinterest user discovered it 2019

[cinder steppe]

Okay that’s what I was confused about wasn’t sure if it was from scanning

[lucid valley]

Then we wouldn’t discuss it lol

[cinder steppe]

Yeah I know

[bold mango]

Also if you guys haven’t seen this yet, here’s an article by Brandon Rike about designing the BF artwork and most importantly that he designed every little detail intentionally because he knew the fan base would examine every little detail

https://medium.com/@brandonrike/design-process-blurryface-live-vinyl-packaging-d5b8b8f36f66

[cinder steppe]

But I really like where you are going with this just taking me a hot minute to wrap my head around it lol

[lucid valley]

Sorry if I am appearing sometimes too strict. My professional bg is always lurking through

[cinder steppe]

This is dangerous material to me just clarifies even deeper that EVERYTHING they do is for a reason so gotta analyse it all

[regal oxide]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 4!

[bold mango]

Haha yep

[lucid valley]

But then again there are also normal graphic design decisions which might look like clues but aren’t

[bold mango]

Did you guys talk about how the angled line through Goner on the back cover is thicker than the rest of the lines? We were discussing that in the double album thread

[lucid valley]

The Trench cover for example is so sloppy edited that you can see the dark overlay on the stock vulture photo

[cinder steppe]

Oh god I’m so glad I don’t have that eye it would pain me

[leaden temple]

Maybe they wanted it to look that way

[lucid valley]

I looked on my version and all lines are equal

[bold mango]

Weird

[leaden temple]

Maybe we DO need to turn the map... maybe the lines should be going through all the O's on the map like this? Could that work?

[lucid valley]

It always happen in a sloppy print process (depending which company did the printing)

[cinder steppe]

See the clouds have always seems so strange to me
I get that tench is supposed to be cloudy but maps don’t have clouds on them like that it seems out of place

[leaden temple]

YES!! AND ALSO THERE APPEARS TO BE A CORNER WITH THE CLOUDS... LIKE ITS ANOTHER IMAGE OVERLAYED OVER THE MAP

[lucid valley]

And I got the vinyl and the CD

[leaden temple]

I do too

[cinder steppe]

Wait so you don’t have the thick line on yours

[lucid valley]

Nope

[cinder steppe]

Because my vinyl has the thick line except it’s in white not red

[leaden temple]

That IS WEIRD

[lucid valley]

Mine is manufactured in Europe

[bold mango]

Checking my vinyl

[leaden temple]

When did you get your cd? Mine has the thick line on it

[cinder steppe]

Same

[lucid valley]

2015

[bold mango]

Mine thick and white

[leaden temple]

Hmmm that's when I got mine too... I don't know where it was made though I'm from the u.s. and I'm at work

[bold mango]

This is the newer silver edition vinyl from FBR anniversary

[bold mango]

Mine made in France

[bold mango]

Maybe it was added to newer editions such as when they added the bubbles to the front

[cinder steppe]

Also Lindsey I wanna say I always read ur name as lisben not even lisden lol

[bold mango]

hahahaa

[lucid valley]

I will investigate on that lower corner and birds

[real plaza]

yeah i think its pretty clear goner is a goner from BF 🙃

[cinder steppe]

And that we are all goners now

[real plaza]

which lower corner? bottom right?

[lucid valley]

Yes

There are these regular structures I cannot explain designwise

[real plaza]

okay because on the street map there are a bunch of bird related street names around there... talon circle, eagle trace way, falcon chase drive...

[lucid valley]

After I made the pure bg version without texts and circles it seemed to me the black could be a blurry picture of a face

But that happens all the time we see blurry pics

[leaden temple]

Random side note but am I the only person who is annoyed that Josh is off center on the Clancy cover?

[lucid valley]

I’ll upload all single pics again here so that we all can be on the same level

[bold mango]

The middle of this you mean? For the face

Also funny I was looking at this yesterday from Reddit, didn’t realize it was you until you linked it again here

[cinder steppe]

It would but I always get so distracted looking at all the images in the fire

[lucid valley]

Nope, the whole cover

[bold mango]

Gotcha.

[lucid valley]

Haha, same name buddy

[real plaza]

theres definitely something there

[cinder steppe]

Also wanted to reply to this thought about 103 and changing the 37 I was thinking about this too definitely something to look into

[azure grove]

Random shot in the dark but is that third circle below the trash overlay be the eye of the vulture on trench?

[real plaza]

thats what i thought

[azure grove]

yeah it definitely looks like it could be the light reflection on the eye!!

sorry I would try to overlay but im at work and on mobile lmao

[real plaza]

sorry the colors are all weird, i was messing with the bf image

but looks pretty cool with the trench colors lol

[azure grove]

also side note but I just saw the “destroy” in trash’s scales lol

[real plaza]

and i sized it like that because it lined up with something else along the bottom, i'm not sure what... it was 2am lol

i gotta go, would love it if someone would mess around or investigate my map overlay idea!

[fickle basalt]

Apparently they're releasing a book of interviews

[cinder steppe]

It’s gonna be really interesting hopefully a lot more lore questions are answered

[lucid valley]

The whole lower right is covered with duplicates of something (in Photoshop you could clone parts of pics like painting with a brush)

I’m out for 2 hours, pls find something 😉

[silk badger]

you guys are goin wild holy shit

[leaden temple]

Kinda looks like the vertibrae of a spine

[cinder steppe]

I love your work ngl
(Ive got no photoshop or digital art work skills)

It is now 2am oopsie
Can’t wait to see what you guys cook up

[bold mango]

Its not the same, but it does make me wonder more about the dots on Josh in the Clancy cover art

[silk badger]

it reminds me of tyler’s tattoo

like the top one

[bold mango]

Oh yeah I can see that

And the top one is like the symbols in the tower in PS video

[silk badger]

which that tattoo also resembles the lights in the tow-yes

[bold mango]

Tyler even liked a tweet connecting the two

Haha

[silk badger]

🤣

[bold mango]

Jinx 🤣

[silk badger]

i love that

[lucid valley]

Thanx, you mean my insta artworks?
Aaaaa, I have to look a soccer game bc I was invited. I’d rather would do “Goner” and “trial” research.
I count on you guys

[cinder steppe]

Ur work in this thread
But I just checked out ur insta and it’s pretty sick too

[azure grove]

I still feel like there is more to the Clancy album cover that we’re missing. ever since it dropped I thought the patterns were very odd.

but also im not big brain like yall so i be struggling

[leaden temple]

This kinda looks like Tyler or am I tripping?

Or Josh? Idk looks like a person

WAIT I MIGHT BE COOKING

[azure grove]

whatcha cooking chef

someone in one of these chats had like mirrored and flipped the album art to line up and I remember something definitely looking like a face but I’d have to go hunt for it.

[leaden temple]

This is the bigger image of the cover in DR

[azure grove]

Is this black glob trash??

[leaden temple]

No I think it's a vulture

Although now that you mention it IT DOES look like Trash

[azure grove]

yeah the dots remind me of the eyes!!

[leaden temple]

Hmmmm

[azure grove]

I also wouldn’t be surprised if that silhouette you think is a person is from something in DR.

like if we overlayed it

[leaden temple]

Shitty edit

But it MAY INDEED BE TRASH

That would ALSO explain where the fire is coming from

[azure grove]

look at us go team

[leaden temple]

GUYS

[azure grove]

so if trash is there then I would suspect the other album art is linked it some way??

[regal oxide]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 3!

[leaden temple]

Has anyone noticed that this red line crosses OVER Tyler's throat and has 3 breaks in it?

[gilded hemlock]

4 lines?

[leaden temple]

Yes definitely

[leaden temple]

Yeah....

LOOK WHAT LINES UP WITH THAT CORNER OF YELLOW

[gilded hemlock]

Looks really good

But blurryface, is just on the side there?

[leaden temple]

I wonder if all of this fits with the lines image

I'm getting there

[gilded hemlock]

Incredible work

[leaden temple]

Thanks!

Let me crop it really quick lol

So here's this but also.... does the ground in the extended Clancy cover kinda look like the patterns on Blurryface?

And here it is with the full insert and patterns kinda hard to see cause it's so small

[leaden temple]

Took all the album covers with tape

Also this is interesting

Don't know where Vessel would

[real plaza]

The lights in the gif are from a tower at WOSU-TV Columbus which is apparently a "cool place to explore" according to google reviews

[real plaza]

this is cool!

[leaden temple]

Thanks!

[real plaza]

WOSU is public television (PBS) and is Channel 34 - does 34 mean anything?

or did top ever perform on public access tv? lol

[tacit topaz]

No I've thought it was a person, just now sure who! 👀

[real plaza]

also the tower is 1125 ft tall, does that mean anything? isn't 11 and 25 a thing?

[azure grove]

hey wait I had a thought on how vessel could fit into this. the silhouette you thought looked like a person on Clancy album art…is it a grandpa???

also shout out to everyone here for photo editing yall are the real heroes

[leaden temple]

So I don't think it's grandpa.... but it maybe it's one of the boys BEHIND the grandpa's like on the back of the book?

Also this is an interesting image from when the tape was on the covers.... it almost looks like they're leading downwards?

[gilded hemlock]

There was an image with the red tapes forming the |-/ logo

[leaden temple]

Yes but that felt kinda forced could be wrong though

I'm trying to find organic connections between the stuff we have

[gilded hemlock]

What is the train of thought? I'm resting a bit from work

Frickin motor units

[leaden temple]

Well someone noticed the grey area on the extended album cover from DR looked like trash and I noticed that the corner of yellow matches up perfectly with Clifford's neck... and we know blurryface is on the album cover but we're trying to find where Vessel goes

I tried it with the taped covers just to see if it led to anything

[gilded hemlock]

Theres a diffefence in color tones below vessel

[leaden temple]

That's a good point

[gilded hemlock]

Let me know if it leads somewhere

[leaden temple]

So I lined up the grey cut in on the taped Vessel cover with the DR cover (which I have Tyler and Josh lined up with the extended Clancy cover) and I'm not sure if it's something but the red tape on Vessel covers Tyler's eyes that way which is interesting

WAAAAAAIIIITTTTT

[gilded hemlock]

UHHHH

COOKIN'

[leaden temple]

IF YOU TURN IT SIDEQAYS IT KINDA LOOKS LIKE TYLER'S ONE TATTOO AND THE LIGHTS ON THE WALL IN PALADIN STRAIT

Maybe I don't have everything correct but THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING

[real plaza]

wait what lights on the wall? i can't go through the video rn

[leaden temple]

Let me get a pic

[gilded hemlock]

Could be there a link in that image for self titled?

[leaden temple]

These lights in the bishop's tower

[real plaza]

gahhh i wish i had a big desktop computer, i'm just using a macbook air and its too tiny

[leaden temple]

HOLY SH*T

[real plaza]

oh yeah yeah

[leaden temple]

GUYS

THE RED ON CLANCY'S MASK AND THE TAPE ON HIS SHOULDERS ALSO COULD MAKE THAT SYMBOL

[real plaza]

thats actually kinda crazy, with the tape?

[gilded hemlock]

I don't see it :c

[real plaza]

i'm pretty sure its the greek letter psi... or psy... which is used to represent PSYchology. I always thought thats why he used that symbol

[gilded hemlock]

Psychokinesis

[real plaza]

I mean its used irl for psychology, not just in tylers world

[leaden temple]

If you account for the length of the tape on the back, it's upside down but it does make the same symbol

[real plaza]

okay now i want to go back to the DR with that in mind... i wish i had time

[leaden temple]

Wait... we never tried the red tape on RAB did we

[gilded hemlock]

There are heavy references on RAB?

[real plaza]

okay you guys sorry off topic a little... did i hear correctly that the BF Standard Black Vinyl image was discovered in 2019? the alternate cover, with the dots and lines

[leaden temple]

Yes? I believe so

[real plaza]

okay so they wouldnt have had clancy art yet, thats kinda weird

[leaden temple]

Well if you look at that symbol and you think about the RAB symbol.... it has three long rectangles to it

[neon pebble]

I’m thinking of the symbols he has tattooed on his arm that include this symbol. Just read a Reddit that it says Josh? 😅 what!?
https://www.reddit.com/r/twentyonepilots/s/nKOMgKyFCp

[leaden temple]

Uh don't know if anyone has pointed this out but that symbol also kinda looks like SAI LOGO and also like neds antlers

The other thing I noticed is that the tape on Tyler's shoulders is longer on one side, just like the rectangles in the logo

(Tyler if you're reading this I really hope I'm not uncovering secrets you didn't want us to and if I am I'm really sorry)

[alpine galleon]

tyler if you're reading this screw you (with love) we're gonna uncover all your secretz

[neon pebble]

Don’t be sorry lol, Tyler likes to watch us stewing over everything

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-mr-burns-youre-here-forever-gif-18297346935078707077

Wrong one lol, I was going for the “excellent” gif but this fits too

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-mr-burns-excellent-sly-gif-15090441131025470920

Him at home ⬆️

[leaden temple]

ACCURATE

[azure grove]

maybe im a little delulu but this supposed silhouette reminds me of these two pics of Josh from DR

he’s the only one who really matches that frame

like the more I zoom into it the more I feel like it’s a person

[gilded hemlock]

Looks like tyler from the hair

[leaden temple]

ACCURATE

[gilded hemlock]

Does someone have the link to see all the DR images?

[lucid valley]

If you take a closer look to the part under the BF face you‘ll see it‘s also doubled

the yellow part on top of his right shoulder and the darker area are doubled a bit lower

[lucid valley]

The first time I saw it, it seemed they tried to hide something next to the figure to not make it that obvious where it came from

[lucid valley]

Yes

Dunno whether it has any significance but the „ground part“ is mirrored in the middle

Another Idea regarding the Goner connection:
Bc Tyler has „missed“ mentioning Goner maybe it is a hint to substract something

I thought of text first, like substracting the letters g o n e r from another important phrase. Or visually. But til now I dunno where

[azure grove]

I was thinking more like this

Forgive the shitty iPhone pencil outline im working with what i got rn

[lucid valley]

Ik

[gilded hemlock]

I see him as tyler due to the hair

[leaden temple]

It's really hard to tell though

[azure grove]

For the briefest of moments I considered this picture of Tyler but the angle is way off. however the stiff body language made me second guess myself.

it’s hard though at a certain point of staring at all this my mind just goes into meltdown mode

[neon pebble]

Almost looks like the bishops hand around his neck and a back angle of Clancy

[gilded hemlock]

Up close it does look like josh

[neon pebble]

I’m seeing his hair

[azure grove]

the more I stare at it I think it’s Josh

once again forgive my butchery of drawing

[neon pebble]

Looks like him! I’m seeing it, not butchered at all, that looks like his neck piece that says torchbearer in Cyrillic

[leaden temple]

It could be the "behind" shot of that photo though

[lucid valley]

It looks like Josh on the Clancy cover

I‘m abroad without access to Photoshop or Procreate. Can someone place it there?

Hmmm… did it in an online app. Seems not to fit in a convincing way, what do you think? And what should it mean in the first place? Josh is Nico? No way

[azure grove]

HAHA I JUST THOUGHT DRIVING HOME “What if Nico’s name is fucking Josh Dun”

[lucid valley]

Nico “the Josh” Dun-Bourbaki

That’s it. Case closed

Josh had followed his double-play in manipulating Clancy he was his companion, but now it shows it was a trapdoor planned from the start to trick Clancy.
The most hated but true theory on this server.

[azure grove]

I’ve gone back and forth on whether or not I think Josh is a bad guy in the lore. I lean more towards doubt it but from a mental health perspective I think it’s a cool thought conceptually that the people who you think are helping you are actually the ones hindering your progress, whether or not that is their intent. Edited for typo.

[lucid valley]

Oops, don’t follow THAT drag path dude…

You might get tarred and feathered from the Josh stans and get banned forever

[azure grove]

😭😭 understood

[lucid valley]

But I‘m getting what you was saying

Sorry to call you „dude“ btw

was meant in a friendly way

[real plaza]

I think Josh the bandito is Clancy’s brother!

[real plaza]

I definitely see a person and I swear I’ve seen that silhouette in the DR…

[bold mango]

Similar to this one I think

The face angle

Or if he’s facing the BF cover

I can see either argument

For which way he is facing

[lucid valley]

Oh, the first one could be possible

[azure grove]

oh you’re good I use dude pretty gender neutrally myself!

[hexed patrol]

I’ve thought this before and honestly it makes so much sense

[hexed patrol]

I love how positive this community is ❤️

[tacit topaz]

Wondering that too. I think it's interesting that Josh isn't mentioned to be captured during scaled and icy. And then he's dressed at torchbearer during some of the sai Livestream

[cinder steppe]

Okay FINALLy we are on the album cover I’ve posted some stuff from it in here before but it got lost in other theories

[cinder steppe]

This photo looks most to me like the angle of the silhouette

[cinder steppe]

Trash is an interesting thought process for this tbh
Whenever I look at it it looks like the devil to me

[sacred sigil]

I agree, I can see the person facing away silhouette much more than I can see the face-front idea if that makes sense. I do think that pic from DR with Josh facing away looks similar.

[cinder steppe]

This is what I see every time I look at the cover
Top circle looks like Tyler/Clancy’s shadow
Bottom is Josh (as discussed)
And the one around bf looks to me like a full body with bf in the middle as the abdomen

Also a skeleton mask in this one

Interesting to mention is that in the album cover it looks like Josh/TB has a shadow but the DR extended photo he doesn’t but that seems to be because the flames are shifted slightly to the right

Complete side tangent here coz I just woke up

1 I had a dream where my friend was wearing the skeleton hoodie and I was obsessing of all of the lore (and someone outside of the clique was listening lol)

2 this stone tile on my bathroom floor likes like a vulture and I’ve been staring at it for about 15 years and it messes with me

[azure grove]

I just noticed that in some of the pictures in DR Josh’s jacket is half zipped up and others it isn’t. Probably nothing but what does it MEAN

[gilded hemlock]

In the first image looks like the fire is coming from torchbearer and the second one coming from clancy

[fickle basalt]

Good evening fellers

What have we been cookin up

I know the lights were noticed in the overcompensate music video how the 4th was out, has anyone considered the significance of the judge in all of this? I can't tell if it was just a nod towards a previous song or if it was meant to mean something

[quasi vale]

So I know this is very very very much a reach but someone asked about the "film roll" marks on the left side of some pictures