#Digital Remains Puzzle
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somebody has tried to reverse the images?
wdym? the 2nd picture is a ss from jensens story x
idk where the first one is from tbf, i saw someone mentioned it in the chat last night and i just saw that shot on the story and put two and two together. i think someone mentioned that we haven’t seen this part of dema but we did, it was just cobbled over instead of the smooth factory concrete we imagined
I think they meant we haven’t seen Dema burn?
i think it's reversed.
If it was ever supposed to burn
I think we've seen. Because if you invert the image it's like the ending of the Outside video
i thought it was referring to the factory style cylinders, i didn’t really get behind the idea of burning down a concrete place that wouldn’t burn 😂
it was just "glowing" in cyan color, not red, it's reversed
i’m not on about it being reversed i’m talking about just generally seeing the cylinders in the mv
he also said the logo means something to him but once we know the meaning, it doesn't mean anything to him anymore or smth like that
Oh well that's sad I hope I didn't just give away his secret
hes talked about the meaning of the logo ageees ago and that it means one thing to him, but it could mean anything to anyone. giving something a meaning gives you a purpose
That's true
And the “I am Clancy” was just Tyler saying that cuz he’s controlling him??? Bruh.
LORD.....
yeah thats what it was
i’m decently sure it represents a kitchen sink and someone trying to use it to end themselves. | = sink - = rope / = person yk
are we using this thing for theories now?
Well this got dark
wtf did i walk into omg
No. We're still working on the Digital Remains puzzle
what's left to solve on the dr??
We were discussing the meaning of the logo because I said what if the top logo is a Kaleidescape
I don't think those two images fitting together is the only thing there for us to find
there could be nothing but there could be something. it’s not super obvious rn
This could be along the lines of kitchen sink.
i have some loose ends that could lead to something but idk what
but it's pretty much after ps mv
Well please do share them! I would like to hear
I honestly think almost the same. But... I think what happened it's just like the events in the Overcompensate MV. "I've found a way in that they will never suspetc". Clancy is SMART, not falling, but trycking Nico.
I think he has morphed into somone elese, like the girl/boy at the end in overcompensate. I think the body that nico is smearing will drop dead. and then Multiple Clancy will appear. Sound strange, but i am all i am believing aahhaha
Shoutout to Facebook clique for finding this. Looks like a face hidden in smoke. Josh
i posted some on #1253797750688972883
I see June 25th in the Zombie's Lights (flip it upside down)
I am officially naming these guys the Vignette since Tyler talks about fighting off the Vignette like it was an army
That's not what I see
this actually makes so much sense. Digital remains put such a HEAVY emphasis on eyes.
The song "Nico and the Niners" tells the story of the Paladin Strait MV. "A complete diversion, start a mob" - the banditos were a diversion for him to ascend the tower. "I'm careless when I wear my rebel red" - Tyler was wearing red when he attacked the bishops, but he did so carelessly and got caught by Nico " We'll win but not everyone will get out" - they defeated most of the bishops and infiltrated Dema, but Tyler got caught by Nico
Sorry if this doesn't fit here, but idk where else to put this theory
can soemone be siezed if they are alive?
I do not want to believe that clancy is dead
I think so, cus the vulture was
Cus it's eyes were black then turned yellow when it was seized
So I think you can seize living things if they have an association with death
thanks
I think that's the exception part - we've also heard the lyrics 'he told me I'm a copy' so it's possible that Clancy could be a clone or copy of Nico and that's why Nico can seize him? Because they're one and the same
Or maybe even a copy of Keons - so not exactly Keons son but kinda? But the bishops have made clones and those clones can be seized without being dead? Just some thoughts idk if it even makes any sense lol
But if Clancy IS a clone that could also go hand-in-hand with the lyrics from Overcompensate. "Don't sleep on a boy who can fall asleep twice" - if you're a clone of someone else then they can fall asleep and you can fall asleep but you're one and the same?
Maybe I'm just delulu😂
May our delulus become trululus 🫶
He also mentions "rebel red" in chlorine "had you in my coat pocket, where I kept my rebel red"
Maybe we have to watch radio rebel for a clue 💀
I was wondering if that was referring to the red paper he had in Vignette
Oooo maybe, didn't think of that. But doesn't he also keep his mask in his pocket when he doesn't have it on?
'kay, this is almost certainly nothing, but I was playing around, chopping out eyes, chopping out tape, pasting it over pages with words, mostly drag path, and this so far is the only one that came up with anything and didn't need resizing or moving to do so.
It's a non official fan acc :(.
Oh damn i Almost flipped 😱
Ik I did to before some1 told me 😭
Appreciate 😭
True
Also am I the only one who felt like the Paladin Strait music video had a very dreamlike quality?
I noticed that to, like everything was perfected, which reminded me of "don't trust a perfect person and don't trust a song that's flawless"
Yeah it's weird... but what if Next Semester and Paladin Strait fit together. I don't like sleep theory but what if it's not sleep theory but coma theory? What if Tyler did get hit by the bus/car and ended up in a coma and now he's been fighting against the pull of death to survive and wake up from the coma? Idk I'm throwing anything out there at this point
That is a cool theory, but Blurry represents mental illness and not death, so I don't think that ties it
Yeah that's true
It helps if discord uses the right file when I post....
I do beleive the sleep theory to a extent. I beleive smth does happen when clancy/Tyler sleeps cuz there's ALOT of lyrics abt sleeping
Someone shared yesterday that the name Clancy stands for red warrior. I think the rebel red is the Clancy mask.
I'm telling u we gotta watch radio rebel. 103.37 could be a radio station number. /hj
That's true
I thought it was 103
Is radio rebel a thing? I don't know what that is.
No there's a .37 at the end
Its a movie with Debby Ryan 😂
Yes but I thought it was 103_37 not 130_37
It is, I think my keyboard just flipped them 😭
Shows what I know 🤣
It all ties in, cuz Debby is Josh's wife, it has to mean smth, 😂
It's on Prime. I could try to watch it later today and see if I find anything 😆
Well I know what I'm watching when I get off work
😂😂
someone said the end of paladin video audio teaser sounds like the end of mulberry street livestream version 👀 you know, the part where they ominously recite a clancy letter
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#clancy #overcompensate #clancytour #twentyonepilots #tøp #tylerjoseph #joshdun #blurryface #trench #sai #scaledandicy #vessel #regionalatbest #rab #nedsbayou #clique ...
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i honestly think it sounds like the ps intro but deeper? maybe im crazy
YOU GUYS
OKAY SO WE FOUND THE PALADIN STRAIT VIDEO TEASER RIGHT? AND IT WAS FADED AND HAD THE REDACTED PARTS? BUT WHEN THEY PUT OUT THE ANNOUNCEMENT THEY SAID "NEVER-SEEN-BEFORE" BUT THAT WASN'T ENTIRELY TRUE! WE'D SEEN AT LEAST PART OF IT WHAT IF THERE IS A SECOND VERSION OF PALADIN STRAIT THAT WE HAVE TO FIND THAT LEADS TO MORE STORYLINE
I'm sure I'm not the only person who has thought of this but I just thought I would share
lol i pointed this out about 12 hours ago 🤣 If you zoom out there looks like 2 faces side by side.
I just realized, since most if not all the MV was CGI, that means that every detail was there on purpose
GUYS
@/silly_theories on Instagram pointed this out, Tyler's tweet has a different album cover without most of the yellow flame.. anyone looked into this
The new 1 is the old 1 mirrored
What if my mirror theory about DR is correct and we have to double and mirror all the images or at least some of them?
Potentially but the flame with the outline of bodies and the BF outline is gone
I flipped it and turned it upside down and it fits perfectly (minus that one yellow spot being DOUBLED behind Josh)
I assume this is just a random fan account?
I think so????
Didn't Ty say we'd be getting more of Ned? Does he show up anywhere?
You know your brain is scrambled from all of this when you’re walking in the middle of a tiny town in the middle of nowhere and see a yellow flower in a random place and immediately get excited thinking it’s a clue 😂😂😂
Following that account just in case
In the scene where Clancy confronts the bishops, they are all separated by those clock-type looking lines… to me, it looks like there are 3 empty slots. One for Keons who died… one for Nico who is chillin in the other room… one for 🤔🤔🤔… Clancy?
last night i drove by a neon sign that was broken and only had a few letters still lit up, my immediate thought was “what does that spell???”😭😭 my brain is fried from all the theorizing and puzzle solving
Or.... here me out one for Torchbearer? He's the leader of the banditos. Maybe he was a bishop and defected because he realized what they were doing was wrong and that's why there is a bishop in the corner behind Josh in Routines? I know they said he's not real but Tyler did also say that Bandito Torchbearer is the real one?
At the start of clancy my BF wasn't even a fan, he's coming to the tour with me and say trying to see what the torches and gravestones spell out last night😂😂
I thought you meant “my blurryface”😭
I like this. It would also make sense with my idea that it’s going to come down to Torchbearer coming to find Clancy and maybe there’s a final confrontation with all 3 of them
That could be good
To add to this we see Josh and Tyler or Torchbearer and Clancy do the handshake in both Stressed Out and Nico and The Niners.... what if they knew each other before either of them left Dema? What if that's why that scene and even the one in navigating feel like a reunion between them. What if that's how Clancy knew about the Banditos? What if that's how Clancy knew about seizing... what if Torchbearer told Clancy all of these things before he got out? What if that's why Clancy knew to leave? I have so many questions now
I did too. That line in Lavish has been stuck in my head since the album dropped and has me wondering what he meant by that.
Oooh what if that account is going to have something to do with what comes next. Since we're nearing the end of this story, this world Tyler has created, what comes next for TOP? Could bots anonymous have something to do with it?
Oh never mind. They just updated their bio to say they aren't affiliated with TOP.
Also I find it quite odd that Tyler refers to his character as Clancy but Josh is only ever referred to by his name in song...
Because that's his name in the storyline too? Torchbearer is just his title as the leader of the Banditos
Best choice ever
Oh thank goodness for that
So. More to come then?
Does anyone have the image of DR that was a letter/song with "left right left right"?
So definitely something is going to happen the 25th
Clancy seized for EP
This honestly makes me thing June 2025 is making more sense cuz if the show is a reminder of why we fight “right before we do” that feels like the fight will be after the shows yea?
idk I HEAVILY believe there's more but this almost feels like he's like "nope that's it let's reminisce now :)"
AND in the cinematic experience the hosts refer to Tyler by his name too... Clancy is a title too? This is making more and more sense
Right before we do.. makes it feel like there's definitely more
Yeah I feel like since the last show is in May 2025, June 2025 is when we’ll get more
TYLER TWEETED
I'm thinking 2025 now 😭😫
LFG, TØP Eras Tour
I hope not :((
Maybe the clancy world tour is a flashback.
Same🥺 but HEY! We just got an amazing album and some amazing music videos— it’s still a win
SOMEONE SAID FLASHBACK YESTERDAY WHO WAS IT??
The way I would totally be down for this tho😂😂 each album having its own moment in the tour
IDK 😭
Yesterday he says “see you at the show” and then the “show is a flashback” huh?!
Well we still have to see Dema on fire
After a night shift I'm awake... what are we cooking?
Tyler tweeted, and as usual we analyzing
Tylers tweet
Someone? 
HELLO!!! 👀
I got it hold on
Still thinking it's gonna be a moviee
I just saw it...that's deep...bro is messing with us
Oh well damn look at me 😂
I have the same feeling. The lore is too strong and the videos too detailed and amazing done in order to be crumbled like this...
It feels very, we will all gather at the shows, see where we have been, and then after the tour ends— the final battle
NOOOOO NOOOOO NOOOOO
1 year to wait...bruh no
Life flashing before his eyes WHEN HE HAD HIS EYES CLOSED DURING PS MV!! WHAT IF THATS WHAT HE WAS SEEING
Ain't no way he will torture us...
@gilded hemlock
We did just get a full album with music videos with every song tho yall so it’s not like he gave us nothing
That is what happens when clancy moves the bishops
So either 6/25 or 2025 

I know, and I don't want to sound ungrateful, the boys did an amazing job...but to leave us in the "climax" of the story like nothing happened...bruh no
It is 6 months till 2025-
I get it— I hate cliffhangers too😭 I’m just trying to stay positive too😭
Yeah but there’s no way he’ll drop anything in the middle of tour
He is feeding with our pain
It's Tyler-
😂
Ik everyone is praying that it’s 6/25 not 2025 and I totally get that but at the same time do we really want it all to be over this month like when it truly does end I will be devastated
So it means that for now we don't go to jail and we don't have any other puzzles to sort
We don't know that for certain yey
Yet
He’s 💀💀
Sometimes I forget they’re real people despite already seeing them in concert lolol
I just opened professor Layton and that was the enigma that an npc gave me💀💀💀💀
Not again
man im so done i just wanted to relax😭
which one are you playing
the third (the lost future)
ima post it there cuz it could be a clue for top lore/jjjj
WAIT WHAT IS THIS? THIS A GAME OR SOMETHING
NO PLZZZ IM JOKING AHSHJSJDJD ITS PROFESSOR LAYTON!!!!
Okay lol
Hey guys I'm not sure if this will mean anything but in tops announcement for ps mv: NEVER-BEFORE-SEEN = 14522518-25615185-195514
And FLASHBACK = 612119821311
WAIT DOES SOMEONE HAVE THE IMAGE OF THE ARROWS WE USED TO FIND THE PASSWORD PLEASE?
Starbucks baristas name was Nico guys omg 👀
This is satire I swear
I just thought it was silly 😜
Okay guys I hate AI BUT I laid images 1 and 3 over each other and then did the AI match thing on Picsart and this is what it came up with.... that looks an awful lot like some of the orange glows in the background doesn't it?
I DONT' UNBDERSTAND
As sad as it makes me if this is the case I don’t think we’re getting anything until next year
If the tour ends next may, that would be our time to see why we need to fight, and then in June after the tour is when we will probably get the second half now that we have our full motivation to fight back
i mean that'd be great. I do believe they might drop cues in the shows if tyler says the shows are flashbacks
actually what if they drop major lore pieces per shows
Yes I think these are going to be some really interesting shows
shit ITS ON
I feel like if it’s a flashback there will be lore.. but stuff we’ve already seen? Or maybe it could fill in some gaps of stuff from a while ago we never knew about?
HAHAHHH THERES NO WAY HE ACTUALLY SAID THISSSS
What a terrible day to have Twitter 😔😂
LMFAO
Are we all convinced this isnt the end? I think I am but I’m starting to worry lol
I'm almost certain there's going to be something summer 2025, the tour is a flash back of before the final battle and paladin ended on a massive cliffhanger
We still have until August for the tour. Something can happen before then.
HEY ALL, ANY NEWSSSS?
Vignette = darkness
I have a theory:
When Clancy is climbing the tower to look for Nico, Josh sees him worried, knowing or sensing that he won't be able to do it alone. Therefore, Josh enters into dema determined to help his friend. As he says in the song at the risk of feeling dumb "It's not worth the risk of losing a friend", for me it's about Josh going to help his friend. Which leads to Nico grabbing Clancy by the neck, and at that moment or after that, Josh is going to save him since in the unreleased song Drag Path there is a part of the lyrics that says "I'm confident, you'll find me".
Conclusion, Josh is going to try to save Clancy, and for me at that moment to give more epicity to the lore, one of the two is going to die trying to kill Nico. But Josh will probably die, leaving Clancy to take the blame.
**Does it make sense to you? **
https://open.spotify.com/track/4XGmH1PRv5I56MllQinZtD?si=66864c2a38474b92 listen from 5:00 in, it says "you asked me if it's real, I see your shifting eyes, you're digging in your heels, i dig my hole to die, hole to die". That's different to the normal LOC lyrics, and part of the digital remains was on the lyrics of "digging in your heels"
also that is a solid theory btw
I was thinking similar, except Josh sends the fake version of himself in first to distract Nico
Slay I’m so excited for the new shit
Me too
I'm not okay 😭
i think that theory its the most solid theory i ever created hahahaha
Also Josh said the ending would be divisive - well everybody is pretty divided on whether or not we're getting to album theory so maybe that's what he's talking about?
did yall see this on twt?
wait thats crazy
HUH
GUYS
FLASHBACK
PLAY THE ALBUM IN THIS ORDER BACKWARDS - PALADIN STRAIT, THEN OLDIES STATION, SNAP BACK AND SO ON..... I THINK THIS IS THE REAL TRACKLIST ORDER 😭 AND OLDIES STATION IS CLANCY'S FLASHBACK
😭😭😭
I'll look in the order it says, could lead to something, let me know if you find something with the numbers of the never-before-seen thingy
DOES ANYONE HAVE A SCREEN SHOT OF THE TRACK LENGTH OF OVERCOMPENSATE BACK FROM WHEN IT WAS FIRST RELEASED IN FEBRUARY???! THE LONG VERSION, NOT THE EDIT! THIS IS IMPERATIVE
Man is there gonna be lore at the shows?? That sucks like so many casuals are gonna be there thinking tf is going on
The actual song 3:56, the video 4:15
Is that from today or from months ago?
From today, idk what you're refering to, there was a change in some way about the lenght? Video/song?
So I watched all the music videos backwards and in that order and tried to link some stuff about the music/videos.
I didn't found like crazy things, only little coincidences but they have like the same meaning or weight if you watched them in order. The fpe jacket in oldies right after paladin was a bit surprising bit we do see fpe on backslide as well. There is a few shots on vignette that shows josh's shadow and those eyes behind the weed, a bit weird. The box in the craving is not the exact same as the box in ps with the clancy wear. Also the phrase in midwest indigo "cloud coverage matched my outfit to a knife" also ring some bells but thats pretty much it
No!
yeah I don't think that's Tyler's actual account lol
You got me all excited for a moment! lol
I know I got excited for a moment!
tyler has responded to this, not sure if u saw, but basically no :))
wait but yes maybe ?
whatd he say
he said that the story won’t be completed at the live shows, the shows are their own thing
@faint latch its totally different cover yeah
What if the banditos and rebels are separated? (Yellow and red) the banditos are simply fighters. But the rebels, (since we see 3 others in PS) are fighters that also wield some powers that tyler/clancy has. In Overcompensate, Tyler is literally teaching a class on this stuff. So what if the clancy clones in the PS posse can use the clancy force as well? And if we get another song/video the banditos lose until the army of rebels from Overcompensate come in and luke skawalski their asses changing the tide of the war
do you think rebels are ex dema citizens?
final battle on the 25th? or 2025
Maybe. If my theory from yesterday is right (which i think we talked about that me and you) clancy himself is a former glorious gone raised by tyler and has kept from decaying like the live experience hosts. Maybe the rebels are also former glorious gone zombies that don't wield the exact same powers as clancy but similar. Like a weaker dumbed down version. Or tyler raised clancy, but clancy tried raised the current rebels. So tyler has the ultimate power, raised and transferred it to clancy and clancy to the rebels but since there were so many has weakened powers, but powers nonetheless
mm interesting
About the whole decaying vessels thing, what if the actual process of decaying is based upon soul energy/morals? The bishops' vessels might decay at a much faster rate than Tyler's vessels because of their low morals. When Tyler stops seizing a vessel it looks dead(Overcompensate), but in a peaceful way(?) instead of like the ones in the Livestream Experience, which were battered to bits by the end.
There's also that one verse in Polarize that may feed into the whole Tyler seizing multiple Clancy thing?
"Polarize is taking your disguises
Separating 'em, splitting 'em up from wrong and right
It's deciding where to die and deciding where to fight"
I wouldn't be surprised if we get more puzzle pieces drop while the tour is going on.
If it's possible that Clancy is a copy, the real Clancy/Tyler might still be able to animate more clues while the 'fake clancy' teaches us like in overcompensate
It's preparation for the real fight like he said
I think they have another album ready to go, they are just sitting on it.
There's elements to their music that are more specific than other parts.
A lot of themes about this album are relapse, addiction, struggle and fighting your mental health issues.
But a big part of healing those patterns are changing your thinking and I don't think we have that piece yet.
I think some songs that deal with that change fully include polarise and chlorine which relates to acceptance.
Besides oldies station and paladin strait I don't see that change in mindset happen in this album.
I'm like 100% sure there's more but I'm not gonna share what I uncovered cause I think Tyler didn't intend for someone to figure it out yet....
I don't know if I want to spoil the surprise
Does it lead to more clues or is it conclusive?
I think it could be conclusive
I really want to know now haha
You're welcome to DM, I won't share or steal your thunder.
Bandito's honor
Maybe I'll drop my theory tomorrow if we hear nothing on the band's end.... there's a possibility tyler wanted us to figure it out because some of the clues are so obvious now but I'm not sure
And I trust that you wouldn't steal my thunder but a few other clikkies helped figure it out so I want their okay before sharing it too
100% I'll check back tomorrow ✔️
I think everything clikkies discover is for the entire community and sometimes it's easier to spot things but to have the brain to put everything together and that makes sense, it's all on you. It's really thoughtful of you to ask the people if they are okay with you sharing the info


Ok I am convinced that if we get a double/deluxe album atleast one song will be completely focused on Josh (tb) perspective just for the fact that he has been in the background for the entirety of Clancy and if you notice that Josh and Debby have barely been posting about the new album
If you actually have something, then it was intended to be discovered.
how would it be discovered if it wasn’t meant to be?
I agree I think the whole point is to work together as a community to analyze and discover
Multiple brains are better than one 🙂
Right? Also this whole area of the discord is for finding stuff like that, right? I don’t get withholding information if that’s the whole point of this server
That’s what I’m saying
Like I get that u don’t want to leak anything to the general public but the clique is different
We all have good intentions and are extremely invested
For you to withhold stuff from the clique idk it just rubs me the wrong way yk
Especially after claiming you have something? Why say it at all if you don’t wanna share
Bro literally
If anything that makes me feel like they don’t actually have anything
And like I’m not trying to spread anything but positivity here bc I care a lot about the clique but its honestly attention seeking
I was thinking that ngl
But maybe they do idk
Absolutely. I love the clique but I don’t love the gatekeeping and superiority that exists within it
i was listen morph, and... what if Clancy is Nico? like, Clancy being a ghost copying Nico?
I mean I hope so!
GOOD POINT! BUT ITS GONNA TAKE ME SOME TIME TO WRITE IT ALL UP
I honestly couldn’t agree more
"He told me I'm a copy"
Oooo that’s interesting
I’m gonna have to think on that
I wasn't trying to be gatekeeping at all I was just concerned I over thought it and uncovered something too soon like with LOC back in 2020 is all. I'm sorry guys I didn't mean to gate keep I was just thinking of Tyler 😭 but I'll share the theory ASAP
You’re good dude, wasn’t even fully meaning towards you at all! Just something I’ve noticed in the community! Nothing to apologize for:)
Okay thanks. But yeah I get what you mean entirely. Some people want to be the ones to uncover all the deep stuff
No your all cool Im sorry I didn’t mean to come off as rude
Nothing but love, for everyone 100%
No worries I just didn't want you guys to think I was like that cause I value all of you and this clique and we're a community and I didn't want you thinking I was one of those elitist types or anything
I’m not saying that was you but some people definitely think they are supirior to other people in the clique and I think all my frustrations were building up over that
Sorry it came out towards you 🫶
All good
that was the most mature conversation I've witnessed in a long time. im proud of you all.
I think it’s ok to first ask those you brainstormed with or sleep on it. No one has the right to demand anyone share whatever. I haven’t been on this server very long but the time I did there were so many discussions and ppl working together. It’s really awesome. Also: there are sooo many theories already. Every second one I read I feel like it’s almost life changing and makes me question all of dema. But when I look back. It’s all just theories. So I guess what I’m trying to say is that I think what has been most enjoyable for me here is the -matching energy trying to forget that we’re in ejection seats-vibe. Not one specific theory or even finding. I lucking the dema version of ps wasn’t even as fun as looking for it imo.
Just don’t want anyone to peer pressure someone into something there aren’t comfortable with <3
Dude it’s so easy to be nice and understanding but sometimes it just seems to get so negative around here
I have noticed that ever since I became part of this not so little group but I also think every group you have always contains negative people somewhere
I just hate when it can bring everyone down too ya know
Oh truly
I agree and I think everyone is so emotionally invested and attached that it’s easy to be snappy with each other even though I’m sure everyone very nice
Absolutely. Whenever the digital remains puzzle was was first found and was being worked on it was an absolute madhouse that seemed to stress everyone lmao
My message got blocked and idk why
go off ig 😂
Ik and now everything is kinda silent which can be even more frustrating
It's to the point where every morning I wake up and wonder if anything new has been found 😅
Palo...min?
My only question is the lyric in goner where he talks about blurry not being the one he’s not, and that he needs help to take him out, implying he’s a antagonist
That is a good point
Maybe there's something similar to psychokinesis that you can do when someone's close to dying? And so blurryface keeps trying to take over but he doesn't want him to do he's trying to fight it but he needs help?
Maybe blurry doesn’t like himself. He identifies as all of these bad aspects one can have to the point, he actually manifests as blurryface. But he doesn’t want to be, he want to be Clancy. In morgh he might express his wish to fully escape his blurry form? Idk.
I like this one too cause when you try to pretend to be something or someone you're not it can be called putting on a face
This might be a stretch but maybe we are reading those lyrics wrong maybe he’s telling us that he is not blurryface but he needs blurryfaces’ help to take out “him” being the bishops like Nico
blurryface and nico are the same arent they??
blurryface is just nico's nickname i thought
That what we originally thought and that probably is the case but there is a theory that they are 2 different people
This the theory
I'd like to think there's a little hint of truth in all our theories
tyler said it like straight up tho, i dont think he'd lie so upfrontly about such a major peice of lore tho
Yeah true I just found it interesting
I’ve always interpreted this line as “Blurry is the part of me that I don’t want and I need help to get rid of him”
Anything new?
No
Laaaaaame
Jk
I fucking knew there was something in DR I’m glad you guys were able to decode it
haven't checked in here in a bit. ater there any new puzzles found since the mv?
Of course, every theory comes from our individual perception / understanding of the music/videos etc.
That’s what brings us all back together is talking about and finding other clickies who agree and can expand on it
Personally I wasn’t as involved in the past puzzles before this era so being on discord and seeing all the new theories is so exhilarating
Especially since I don’t have any friends who are invested in the band anymore (they all left after trench rip)
he's in his mind, and sometimes to stay alive you gotta kill your mind 😌
well said!!
honestly same, i have been dying to find ppl to talk to about clancy so i joined the discord clique lol
How'd you go? Wanna share?
Same for me here, I only saw everything that happened during the LOC ARG much later and experiencing everyone losing their minds in real time makes me feel super connected
Same. I contributed nothing of value, but it was fun
I rewatched all the Lore videos last night and I’m sure it’s already been said, but I realized in the song Heavy Dirty Soul that the car was probably somehow seized. I always thought only humans and animals could be seized but the car randomly was falling apart and as that started happening you could no longer see the driver anymore. Was there ever actually a driver or was it a fake dummy so no one would know the car was seized? And the car exploded when Tyler moved his arms at it, like he was controlling it.
Also I noted that the movements Tyler was making on top of the car in the Jumpsuit video I believe seemed very similiar to when he is on top of the cliffs in Paladin Strait. And the opening of jumpsuit he whispers we were there the whole time and we were sleeping. It just all seems like a multi layered dream type thing lol. I know there is a dream theory and I definitely noticed all the references to sleep and eyes being closed, etc.
i saw this theory as well that this whole story is actually being told backwards.. 😶 that’ll explain all the references we got with “reversed” too. all i could think abt was that lyric on “A Car, A Torch, A Death” being abt torchbearer and it broke my heart
89 and 92 are a match but that was already confirmed probably
So I'm still writing up the theory, it's a long one and a doozy and I'm making sure everything is in order but I'll share it once it's finished
Test
Yay! Channel is back
The Neon Gravestones were in the overcompensate video this whole time
i’ve never noticed that wtf? what’s the time stamp?
just the beginning before the "welcome back to trench" lyrics
OH, jesus howd i like mentally block that isneoeneorbeoek
I remember seeing them but I guess I didn't process that they were the Neon gravestones until after PS mv lol
Also guys this theory is taking me longer to write up than I thought it would so I think I might have to wait until the 25th to share it. I also want to wait and see if we get an announcement then. And I'm still apprehensive about sharing this...
Like I wish I could @ tyler and ask him if it's okay if I share this 😂
Is the thought that if nothing happens on the 25th that it actually means 2025?
Yeah basically
Noticed this a while ago, but it starts from the ocean across a forest and landscapes, I think it way showing the journey Clancy has to make to DEMA
That’s the whole theory?
No
That's not MY THEORY.
Yea, but imma be sad if it id
Gotcha im joining in late lol
Or I should say OUR THEORY since my name isn't the only one on it
Oh man someone @ me when this theory surfaces 🤣
Me too but if we get a whole second album then I could handle waiting
second album would be fire
Right. Idk. I guess im confused as why you think Tyler wouldn’t want it shared if it was something discovered & not leaked
Tru, but it would be weird cuz doesn't the tour end till later next year?
That's true....
Like if you hacked into Ty’s computer and got info that’d be understandable 😂
That's true
when does the tour end?
😂 yeah fair. I didn't hack into ur computer Tyler I swear 😂
Right lol, im just curious on what the baseline theory you have is, whether it’s a double album or whatever
Well if my theory is correct then it pretty much almost 100% guarantees 2 album theory
Are we thinking sooner rather than later?
The main driving factor for me is the Clancy ultimate 25 thing from the digital remains, that’s clearly a hint towards something else
I'm thinking Tyler might not have wanted this discovered until the tour starts, so unfortunately I'm thinking later.... 😭
Yeah exactly
25 does make me feel 2025, however
Which 2 albums in that small of a timeframe is still really crazy
Yeah exactly
Now it's possible there's still more for us to uncover with DR and there could be a hidden message or something hinting at a time frame or something more so I think we still need to look for more
I think there is a good chance we have to wait until 2025 but if there is a whole new album does that mean there will be another tour because that seems unlikely
Alright fuck it. I'll share the theory as soon as it's finished. If Tyler didn't want us to figure this out he wouldn't have left the clues for us to find right?
No they almost always do two tours per album so if it's a double album tour for this part, tour for the second half would make sense
Oh ok that makes sense
I just worry about Tyler not spending time with his family yk
2 tours would be a lot of time away from home
Yeah I get that but they do have like over a month off in Nov/Dec for the holidays
And usually Jenna and Debby end up coming along on tour so it's possible the wives + kids will join them for at least part of the tour
Yeah that would make sense
paladin was supposed to release on the day it did.
Simone Weil was born on February 3rd and passed away on the 24th of August
8 months and 24 days minus 2 months and 3 days is June 21, the day paladin released.
“the balance of her mind was disturbed”
interesting
I'm gonna warn you guys, the theory is 6 pages of text so far.... I might have to post it to reddit and link it here for you all to read
holy shit bro 🤣💕
Yeah.... it's a lot lol
gonna read it like a bed time story, i’m hyped
Holy shit I didn't think it was that long 😭
I'm giving an in depth of everything I discovered rewatching all the videos
😭👍
Whoa that’s a lot
Yeah it's a lot
Well I’m excited to see what y’all have come up with so keep us posted!
Oh I can't wait to read this
So u guys think we get something 6/25?
I hope so
I'm honestly not that...sure anymore but I'd be really happy if something did
putting this here cause i’m 99% sure this is the chat that made the discussion, but i’m laughing at how the other day people were like “trench looks like ohio” “trench looks like [insert whatever other places]” but it’s legit just hawaii:
just found that extremely funny that no one in that moment (including i) realized it’s just hawaii 💀
I think it's been discussed for a while before we got the full map but it is really random, like why hawaii?
Okay so apparently hawaii means "homeland" that could be why
I feel like it has a deeper meaning than that but that could be part of why they choose Hawaii
I almost wonder if there are more islands of trench just like Hawaii
damn that hits hard
He does also call dema home in one of the clancy letters
Also "hometown" is a thing too
Just shows that even when everything seems amazing it's not 😔
2024 is a leap year
thats exactly 365 days
can someone look for posts with 11 dots/periods?
I’ll look through there insta rn
the double albums genre is metal 


Other new shirt
Where did those come from
Urban Outfitters
Urban Outfitters always have crazy stuff
i search for new top merch every day
there is plenty of clancy merch people here haven't discovered yet
this one is sorta unknown also
I think this is hinting at Inferno
Which is what I think is the title of the second album
its just a weirdish design for this era
color scheme matches tho
its called a "flame tee"
Why do u think that
If u don’t mind me asking
Because in one of the Clancy letters we've gotten this cycle Clancy says "we will make an inferno"
Fair enough
emp has a very fire heavy design too 
they ripped off the hot topic design
So where’s your theory?
I'll be posting it later today
Awesome
Looking forward
huh, i always thought they weren't legit for some reason, everything about them looks so sketchy
hey sorry for asking, did someone find why they put the one minute long birds in the normal version of paladin?
I was wondering about that too. Before the release of the ps mv I imagined about the way that clancy reached the tower, a bit of introspection before the final encounter. Then while climbing and the banditos facing the zombies, the final part of ps would come. So now with the actual mv, there could be some significance for the length of the silence and birds, the final length of the song, when nico speaks. Hopefully the 25th throw some light onto this questions
I also thought about that! I even thought there could be a dioaloge between somebody but that also didnt happen
i love emp, got my trench shoes from, there lol
They have shoes
doesnt look like they sell rhem any more but they did
wish they'd drop another ukulele, baritone this time
Likely to "hide" the ending from being spoiled
The ending lyrics aren't in any booklets, nor on the YT videos in the descriptions
This is basically the best way of doing a "hidden" track now that streaming services exist
Sadly out of curiosity I went into genius like a week before the album release and there was already all the lyrics of clancy. And the ending 
Yeeaaahhhh sadly it was leaked and then Genius is obviously editable so it got added
I believe it's still not on Spotify lyrics since they come from Medium
Are we sure all of them are legit? I know some sites allow anyone to publish designes and it’s not really clear on these sites that the actual artist doesn’t get paid nor is even involved. I could also imagine some mearch being handled by a company that isn’t really connected to the bands creative vision (especially if it’s a design that isn’t also on the official 21 pilots store). In that care I wouldn’t really interpret anything into a weird mearch design - but I honesty don’t know if this is true for the designs posted
What’s your ETA? 👀
2 minutes!
ohhhh some of these do fr look new
this one was sold at the small shows!
High-key need this his screams are genuinely underrated he's perfect at it
this was at the small shows 😎
What a neat poster
RIGHT? ugh after the fact i wish i bought one fr, but i got the matching shirt instead at least
yes
Fun fact, Big Island/Hawaii Island (Which trench is designed after) is also called Holu o Keawe (named after a ruler in the 17th century) by locals. One of Keawe’s meanings is “bearer” 👀
yoooo 👀
Legit?
Yup
Woah
I mean, it would be pretty messed up if the CHILEAN.CLIQUE would lie, i would be pretty upset with my felow chileans if that was the case haha
How we not find it
so what’s the basis of your 6 page theory
Hey guys, what’s the significance of Simone Weil?
Still working on it
Dawg it’s been 8 hours
Here’s a Reddit link with info on her relevance to the clique! There are also some videos on YouTube with other theories about her! 🙂
Same/similar info in video form if that’s easier to digest: https://youtu.be/Ef3MOzMgrmA?si=r6hm1LhkMpKVE26J
TW// for mentions of suicide.
Hello! And welcome to my channel.
I hope you enjoyed this deep dive! Let me know if you would like any more videos on the lore.
Credit to verified theorists on Discord Clique for some of their help!
Ik u may not be totally finished but I’m curious as to what you have so far
I'm also curious
U will live 🥰
We're pulling a Tyler Joseph on yall 🥰🥰
I mean yeah! Absolutely I’m just looking forward to it lol
We have a few updates to make to the document later and then we'll share it! Might be tomorrow! But we're working on it guys!
We totally are 😎
Awesome I’m excited
This is gonna end up being the big release on 25 LMAO it was you all along
🫢🤭
Delays as a theme???
I'm just kidding 🤣
Looking forward to see what ur cooking up, let me know if I can help at all @leaden temple
No way @leaden temple is actually Tyler
🤣🤣
@leaden temple THEY FOUND UR SECRET. WE CANT KEEP U SAFE U GOTTA LEAVE THE DISCORD CHAT
OH NO MY COVER IS BLOWN
quick! divert from the plan we have a code red!
I don't even know how to handle a code red!
It’s in § 53b, line 7
Yeah if you need any help let me know I would love to be a part of this
GET DOWN. GET TO THE EXIT
I'M RUNNING!
Anyone have the link for all the Clancy images??
nice pfp
If @leaden temple is actually Tyler…. Does that make @worldly swallow Josh??? Did we find them??!?!
SHIT.
💀💀
I won’t tell if you promise to make the tour an “eras” tour😂😂
I can try my best 😔
It would be like Josh to have his pfp as Tyler 🤔🤔
The perfect cover
That’s all I ask😔🤝
🤝
Wait Tacobell?? Are we at the same show??
I think so! (I haven't act bought my tickets yet, because I'm waiting for my freind, but I'm def gonna be there)
This was the closest I've come to uncovering lore
SHIT. THEY'VE FOUND US!
WE GOTTA RUN
We appreciate your service
LET'S GO
🫡🫡
🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️
@worldly swallow DON'T WORRY I GOT YOUR TORCH! IT'S IN MY BAG
I GRABBED UR MASK
THANKS
: ( there they go I guess

Damn, he escaped again
Yeah give it one or two songs
🤫
rumor has it they're writing them as we speak
I love this server😂😂
STOP SPOILING

YEAH 🤫
I'm like if Icarus was blind
💀💀
I'm flying too close to the sun but I can't seeeeeee
💀
👽
That's mine, excuse u
Isn't your profile picture of Tyler 😭
So.
Isn't Josh the alien
I leave for two seconds what is happening
||It's secretly Josh pretending to be Tyler, obvi 🤣||
Why are there aliens now
Yea
👽
I hope I'm here for the lore exposé when it drops tho
We're gonna delay it just cuz u said that
Heck
Sure would be real awkward if the real Tyler dropped something on the saaaaame day
🏃♀️🏃♀️
Hey thanks
Yeah so? He's showing everyone that he's my Best Fren okay
💀
Yea 💪💪
That would be so wild lmao
It would be really funny
Except I am the real tyler /j
Guys I can't look at the official top stuff rn I'm reading a 6+ page deep dive
😂😂
Dudes reading this rn like 🤷🏼♀️ 2025 it is
Probably
I would buy it too, he would totally just unironically be like well I did have something planned but it looked like you guys were busy
Look there’s still a tiny sliver of me holding out for 06/25 but deep down I know it’s June 2025
Never take it 🗣🗣🗣
I'm laughing but I'm also sobbing 😭 he would do it too
That one part in Ode to Sleep makes me closer and closer to breaking down into tears each time I listen to it and I can’t stop because it is so good 😰😰😰
It's times like this when I wish it were still the 90s. Try to get away with 06/95 then. 🤣
I wouldn't do that to you Josh. Only the ungrateful fans
Thank u, Tiller
🫶
Honestly a year isn’t a crazy long wait considering some of what we have done— plus we’ve got the tour during that year
Damn, can't believe I'm flying to California to see you guys in August when you were here all this time
Well you guys weren't supposed to find out it was us
Got them sleuthin goggles on tn
U weren't suppose to know it was us
Damn we're no match for the sleuthin goggles
It's fine guys California is still gonna be great
Fair. Some of us held out longer than that before (looking at you, mcr). I just can't deal with anticipation.
Can't wait to get out of this humidity 😭
Can't wait to see ya
We had a 3+ year full radio silence between end of Blurry Era and the start of Trench. You'll be fine guys
Having all this down time is like egg nog
It's not as good if you don't wait for it
I'm trying to savor it cause I wasn't involved in the trench era of lore
Maybe this would be a good time to say I also don't like egg nog 🤣
So real. I’m just gonna keep looping songs till a year passes I guess
Pls tell me when you'll be closer than 6 hours away from me 🙏🙏 /j
Yeah I knew there would be people that didn't like egg nog. My best friend doesn't either. More for mee
I used to share it with my cat
PSA tho don't give your cat egg nog it can cause pancreatitis
I'll have to check with the team
Nico?! Shit I gotta go guys BYYYYYEEEE 🏃♀️
TYLER, GET YO AHHH BACK HERE 😤
HELL NO
GET BACK I GOTTA MAKE SURE UR ON THE RIGHT PATH
I'M AN ESCAPEEEEEE
Glorious gotta go
OKAY FIIIIIINE
Ope. Someone's gonna get schmeared again.
BUT ONLY FOR U JOSH
But imy 🥺
ALR LETS GO FOLLOW ME 🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️
I'M COMING
UR SLOW
YOU DON'T MISS ME YOU'RE A LIAR NICO! A LIAR!
I'M NOT TRYING TO BE!
THE THEORY IS WEIGHING ME DOWN TOO MUCH IT'S TOO LONG
IT CAN NEVER BE TO LONG
What's yellow?
See? Fool proof
ALRIGHT I'M ALMOST THERE
FINALLY, UR SO SLOW
JOSH U KNOW THIS ITS LITERALLY IN THE LYRICS OF PET CHEETAH
On a side note guys I'm gonna make some neat Clancy themed shorts and I wanted to post a pic of them when I finish. They're not technically art so I figured I would post it there, do you guys think I should just post it in the general chat?
Yeah that's probably fine
Okay cool
RIDE UR CHEETAH THEN
Anything that is made, no matter the medium, is art. Cool shorts are just wearable art
Oooo u can prob also out it in #creations if u want
NO JOSH I NEED YOUR GUIDANCE
Ooo I didn't realize there was a creations tab
I AM GUIDING U, UR JUST SLOW
👍👍👍
WELL MY PET CHEETAH IS FASTER IN THE STUDIO THAN ON HIS FEET
U KEEP UR POOR CHEETAH IN UR BASEMENT SO THAT DOESNT MEAN NOTHIN
CHEETAHS ARENT ALLOWED IN DEMA SO NICO 'LL TAKE JASON AWAY IF THEY FIND OUT THATS WHY I GOTTA KEEP HIM IN THE BASEMENT 😭
U CAN SET HIM FREE INTO THE WILD TYLER 😭😭
BUT HE'LL MISS ME JOSH
UVE ONLY TALKED ABT HIM ONCE, AND HAVENT BEEN BACK TO UR HOUSE SINCE TRENCH ERA
😭 ALRIGHT ILL DO WHATS BEST FOR JASON N LET HIM GO
FINALLY, THAT POOR CHEETAH 😔
Ykno if the bishops can't see yellow how come Clancy didn't just show up in all yellow
Would that be too easy
Invisibility cloak 🤯🤯
Yeah man imagine the Harry Potter scene where he's in the library
That would have been so cool
I SET HIM FREE 😭😭😭
Imagine he climbs the tower and takes off the mask and it's just a head and antlers floating around
BE FREE JASON
Like the HOG mv but funnier
HE IS FREE
I pictured face paint 😭 but that's such a funny thought
NOW GUIDE ME TO THE BANDITO CAMP BEFORE NICO CATCHES ME
ALR FINE, SO SASSY 🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️
GOTTA KEEP THE SASS EVEN WHEN NICO IS ON MY ASS 💅
😂😂😂
We should be getting there within a cpl days top
Okay cool. Thank u Josh. Ur the best fren ever
Ofc! Gotta protect my best frend
roleplayers these days
Nothing yet
@worldly swallow @leaden temple yinz are doing all this running, but are you navigating
Navigating..
There are twenty five words in the twenty one pilot Instagram post 😭
get outta here 😭
So I have a theory that I came up with while listening to top’s discography - We all saw they played Trapdoor during one of their evenings with twenty one pilots shows….what if Clancy is standing on a trapdoor at the end of the PS video and that’s how he gets out of Nico’s/Blurryface’s grasp….just a thought I had while listening to the song
So then real tyler aka @leaden temple
You mentioned in your tweet that things we're going to be 'straight forward' yet the first track off the album references a dangerous bend symbol.
That's about the furthest away you could get to straight forward imo.
care to comment?
I think the fans would like an answer on this one.
does feel a bit like you're flipping us off 🎤
idk if this is anything or if this is the right place to point it out but i just noticed this
This is kinda what the theory is about I promise I'll have it out some time today life got busy!
I hate when I get unexpectedly busy 😒
That's the worst
who doesnt wash their legs please be honest
That's so old, and so random 😭
i’ve been working so that was the last thing i saw 🥲
has tyler been less cryptic and told us all of his secret plans yet
DANG.
No 😒😒
tickets aren’t cheap i sadly have to sell my body to old people with caffeine addictions ☹️
😭😭😭😭
UGH one day he’ll just tell us something without having to decode 14 different things
Get that bank tho 😭😭
Fr
Maybe they'll be less cryptic in the next project
They'll take that as a challenge and make it their most cryptic one yet
You're probably right
i love how he was like “this is the most straight forward album” and then soon after was “hey guys, here’s over 100 photos, there’s definitely nothing special about these 🤭 good luck! ✨”
And we believed him at first!
Tyler knows we're gullible
It's true
And then everyone would be upset that there was nothing extra to find lol
Yeah that's true
if nothing happens tomorrow, i know that they know that they’re screwing with US
the caption being 25 words, them boys know we’d notice that 🙄
He’s a silly goofy little dude ain’t he
I love his lil dances on stage
I could see them doing a joke thing tomorrow so be on guard 😂😔
100%, i wouldn’t be surprised if they posted something super goofy while full on knowing they fooled us
It’s a new puzzle and it just spells out “get pranked”
Tomorrow..
ITS 25TH KEEP UR EYES PEELED
imagine they're just silent and we get nothing again
that would be sad
lol it’s still the 24th for me
And it’s still the 24th in Ohio so most band things follow EST
Aight Bett
we have, like, 9 hours until the 25th ohio time
Remaster of Taco Bell Saga
Soo I think this was brought up before......but why do sites keep calling Clancy their SEVENTH album 🤨
1.Self titled
2.RAB
3.Vessel
4.Blurryface
5.Trench
6.SAI
7.Clancy
?
Not even lying, I just got home from a visit with my proctologist. Getting old sucks!
Wrong thread sorry 😂
but RAB isn't on streaming and Tyler even said TECHNICALLY RAB doesn't exist
Wiki counts it 🤷🏻♀️ so that could be why
Rab is so damn good though. I slept on that album until like when news on Clancy came out.
Kitchen Sink is 🔥
I mentioned this in #theories a bit ago, but the promotional clip that was posted by FBR for PS today has the opening scene in reverse
............Oh my god
I also have the clip of the opening from the official mv that I can send if anyone needs it to do a side by side
hmmmmm 👀
mirror/reverse theory lives on!!!
Either way they're both backwards
And why would they post it 3 days after the mv came out?
because fbr sucks at promo
im in the future😎😎
it's still backwards the video STARTS with the purple flowers and antlers
oh yeah for sure!
i was just being nit-picky
lol
but yeah we can still talk about the rest
Wym again
aint no way fueled by ramen is messing with us too 😭
Yeah SOMETHING it coming tommrrow
wait this was posted today
yeah something has to be tomorrow imo
announcement maybe
here in italy is already 25, can't sleep
too anxious for smth that might not even happen
Also Ashley posting these today as well.... https://www.ddinstagram.com/p/C8m0hylv55N/?img_index=1
Like how we got silence for the entirety of "early june" about the paladin strait mv when we were constantly expecting something lol
What’s rab
Regional At Best
Ah
🎶 I would swim the paladin strait, without any flotation, just a glimpse of @leaden temple 's lore, with them on the other shore line, wriiiiitiiiiinggg, there's aaaa good chaaaaance that I won't understand, mmmmm 🎶
facts tho
me
plssss
plssss
Well let u drown
I'm patient I'm patient I was just being silly. They said it's a lot so I'm not surprised they're taking their time
Damn 😩
How the turns have tabled
This just makes me think of his song drown LMAO what a bop
I would for sure blast that at karaoke
🤫
Tru
Have you heard all of no phun intended? I don't even know how many songs are on it but I know I haven't heard them all. I keep trying to find a CD (IDC that they're almost all unofficial I just want all the songs together lmao) but it's real hit or miss
I don't think I've listen to all of it :(.
It's definitely really neat to see and hear how far he's come
major no phun intended fan here
there’s really solid songs on there, definitely recommend the listen
you can probably google the actual track list, but this is the download i have at least:
i’m pretty sure mine is super close (ignore the track 07, it’s not supposed to be there but i’m too lazy to fix it)
late reply, but RAB is on deezer
👀 Oh I did not know that! Weird that you can only find it on Deezer....
But Tyler still said during the Vessel Live Stream that "technically" it doesn't exist....
You can’t find it anywhere else huh
At least on streaming services
Interesting
Why not release it everywhere
going down is a certified banger
yeah truly a lot of NPI hits such a soft spot for me fr, everytime i listen i’m like “damn 😭”
but on a different note: @leaden temple you’re killin me 😭 i need this theory essay bro
I'm finishing it up right now!

i shall read it in the morning then 😎 thank you in advance, soldier 🫡
6/25 truthers unite
ALRIGHT GUYS! THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME STUFF MISSING BUT ITS TIME TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU SO HERE IT IS https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kSVmmkAIydlohPTzeGT4Jvs-RIiW24bB3pV-7UxwcgE/edit
Alright fellow clikkies - long post so sit tight and I apologize in advance. Am I the only one who feels like the album is a little disjointed? Am I the only person asking why did they add (Jenna's version) of The Craving on the album instead of the single version? And why haven’t we seen them cr...
Omgg
Oh hey my name is on there
Ur welcome yall 🙄🙄
Yeah I put everyone's names on there but this is not ONLY MY THEORY, IT WAS THE COLLECTIVE WORK OF @worldly swallow @pseudo grove @proper bridge and myself, along with a mention of what @mint marsh pointed out!
🥳🥳
🫡
@leaden temple you ever played BioShock? Specifically BioShock infinite?
I've never played it but I've watched my sister play through it multiple times
I just thought the theory of shaved head being one while unshaved head being the other was very reminiscent of booker vs comstock
Oooh good point
Like layers of multiple timelines in a weird way
Idk what yall talking abt
BioShock Infinite is a video game that deals with parallel universes
😃😃
I think I get what you're saying lowkey felt like there were mutliple different timelines because in some videos he has the black neck and hand paint and some times he doesnt
Yeaaaaaaaah I mean I haven't really put too much thought into it, it was just the vibe I got while reading so far
I got that vibes from the music videos overall even though they don't all "fit" the narrative
If Clancy is represented by the hallways does that mean that also Clancy connects everything?
Yes I believe so
That would make sense in that this is supposed to be the final chapter of this storyline
Well if it is all in Tyler's head it does make sense
I mean in a way it is all in his head
Outside of twenty one pilots dema doesn't exist
Okay dang. I’m here for this. It totally makes sense.
It was an honour
Sleepless nights coming in clutch
🥰🥰🥰
That was so well put together, it made me cry
Well it’s the 25th, have they posted anything? 😂
Sorry I doubted at all. That’s all super solid and even if it’s not what’s happening, a really cool way to look at it. Great work all of yall, for real
Tha k you so much!
What are we expecting today?
Something......im not sure what....
We'll wait patiently
I hope you managed to get some sleep ❤️ If anything happens, all notifs would blow up anyway
I expect an announcement or some cryptic tweet tbh
That smart clikkies will put together as confirmation of a double purple album
And then I'll start saving for like 10 more versions of the same damn album in june 2025
It’s 4am where I’m at and I just read this and it’s amazing
THIS OMFG
IVE BEEN THINKING OF THIS FOR SO LONG “right in front 👀”
And REVERSED
100% worth the wait for this theory
Hi guys !! 🌻🌻 I'm curious, did someone find out anything about the drawing of Josh in the snow ?
I modified the contrast
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I see written "Vessels" there
Does anyone see that too? Or am I turning crazy ? xD
Both can be valid hahahaha
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it's not the first time i see somebody pointing to this
I think I've heard that too but I wasn't sure, I'm really wondering if it's a thing, because the word vessel could totally be something from them
damn, you guys are definitely onto something
wait am I missing something or are those songs not quite in reverse order?
Wow, I'm impressed. You really devoted a lot of time and energy to make this theory! I feel I have to listen to the songs again and probably think a little bit about it all but it makes a lot of sense. And I agree that the order of songs that we have (Overcompensate-PS) feels a little bit off as if something was missing and story was not complete
@leaden temple I’m not gonna lie when I say your therory made me cry
Especially after seeing some of negative responses over the ‘ending’
did somebody check if PS loops into Overcompensate?
yes its super neat
emotionally
but it doesnt literally loop into it
bc the end of PS on the album is hello clancy
then Overcompensate ofc starts with Welcome back to Trench
No i mean the synth we hear at the end of the video
Maybe even that tease of does this sound like the end, doesn't mean the end of the saga but the
actual end of the album
does this sound like the ending of the album to you.
NO! It sounds liek the start.
Kudos @leaden temple and team ~! all of you.
I teared up.
Wow that’s really beautiful
Could the “you tell us” possibly mean something more literal? As in we’re really supposed to do something and tell them?
Just woke up for the day and read this before doing anything else. I am so impressed! I like a lot of your thoughts in here and I love this theory. You could very well be on to something!! This was very well done and I'm so grateful that you share it, thank you!
This is so cool, i do think the order we have been presented isn't the real order. And Overcompensate being the end and potentially start of what comes next
happy 6.25 yall..... we either get something now or in 12 months 🙃🫠
Tell them a nursery rhyme maybe?
thanks for this! such an interesting read :)))
another thing that could be interesting to note is that if we follow along with this theory, it ties in really well with the narrative of trench, and the order that those songs are in
trench introduces us to dema but also narratively (with help from the I Am Clancy video as well) depicts tyler/clancy escaping dema countless times, but finishes with Leave The City, where he is left wandering through trench, with the hope of leaving dema for the final time. and with The Outside music video being the last from SAI, and then we look at PS video, it kinda fits
i might need to think about this a bit more but just generating thoughts
I came back here to finally read the famed theory. can't wait to delve in
it's 9:25 am in Ohio
I assume nothing has happened yet?
This is awesome and has soooo many great observations, I love it. I definitely agree with all the flashback theory portion. It’s the order of the tracks I’m still puzzled by. We see Tyler carving the antlers in Paladin Strait which I think is significant. If you freeze the image of the antlers at the end of Overcompensate they are whole. If you freeze the image of Tyler taking out the Bishops, the antlers have been altered, so it has to take place after Overcompensate. Also, in the livestream didn’t Tyler say Paladin Strait picks up where Navigating leaves off? The idea that we’re missing the bird portion of the video… genius and that would be amazing!!
I'm a bit torn about the order too tbh, but the rest definitely checks out 💖
I keep trying to think why Flashbacks would be significant. People say your life flashes before your eyes right before you die. I don’t think Clancy is going to die, but if he thought he was going to die maybe??
If I was embarking on a journey that I thought had no return, I’d reminisce
Honestly this is a good point but if Ned represents Tyler's creativity then maybe the horns signify using that creativity to fight off the bishops. Sahlo Folina. So the fact that we see the horns in two different ways could mean that in Paladin Strait Tyler was so busy trying to polish up what he made and it still didn't technically stop Nico. In Overcompensate the horns are whole because Tyler has realized that his creativity is enough. That he is enough. Idk just a thought? Kinda random but I figured I'd share it
Maybe it’s Nico dying and the Nico/Clancy being the same theory is true
Idk I’m throwing anything out there at this point
There has to be two versions of Clancy right? That’s why the ribbon has the name mirrored on it?
What if the album Clancy is a flashback of a version of Clancy that gets captured, and a “mirrored” second album will be an alternate reality of Clancy with a different outcome?
I don't think they'd do alternate timeline shennanigans
story is already pretty complicated
The other thing I was thinking is that the album is supposed to be reversed except you still play Paladin Strait at the end - the whole album has been a flashback up until Nico has his hands around Clancy's throat. When Clancy opens his eyes it's him returning to the present
Did anything happen today yet?
You know you guys, 25 could mean the 25th of any month this year
was the 6th from somewhere?
i thought the significance was 6/25
or was it only the 25 that was significant
it has been 6/25 everywhere
6 antlers, capitulus 25
6:25 on Josh's running screenshot
6 words, 25 letters on Josh's reply
the anniversary of Tyler washing the BF paint off for the final time after the BF era
Also the day Simone Weil is reported to have arrived in NY
Well if we get something today it will probably be 6:25pm Ohio time
I hope so. I’m losing hope every minute that goes by lol
It's only noon in Ohio right now
Yeah I know they usually don’t release stuff this early
Thank u 🥰 (I barely did anything
Still! Awesome work 🙂
I can’t wait for Josh’s running time to be a complete accident and he’s over here going “oh oops”😂😂
Fr 😂😂
It's 5pm in the UK the paladin release was 8pm here... are we still holding on to hope?!?
What us the whole Simone Well thing btw?
Yea, emer said it might get release at 6:25 EST
She was the sister of Andre Weil, the founder of the Nicolas Bourbaki group
You can watch Keons' video about her connections to the story https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef3MOzMgrmA
TW// for mentions of suicide.
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Nico is Nicolas bourbaki right?
Man that's like 23:25... we better get something pr I might cry at this point
That's his name yeah
It's a giant metaphor to the story
The name being a moniker for a group of people all working together
Same way Blurryface is a nickname but also the collective bishops working together
I was just thinking about how Nico is his first name but all the other bishops are addressed as their last name
Well not really
It's gonna be ok 😭
Yeah remember yall— we just got an absolute stunning album with some amazing videos and a cool puzzle— even if we don’t get anything today, we got a lot
Absolutely!!
That's not true! Y'all helped a lot 🫶
And exactly! If we don't get the rest of the story until next year that's okay. They are two guys. It takes time for them to make the amazing music they do!
wait is the whole 6/25 thing only based on simone weil and josh's post about running? i was so sure there was more but i can't remember anything else rn
There's more
there’s more around 25 but not specifically the date 6/25
THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE.
i absolutely adore your take on routines in the night
Clancy ultimus capitulus 25
yeah but that's just 25, not necessarily 6/25
There were 6 antlers hanging around the board at the fpe that's why people were saying 6/25
then there was josh's running app thing, then tyler tweeted something with 47 letters and 17 words - and josh replied with 25 letters and 6 words. they've been teasing the 6 number a lot too
i mean, even paladin strait ends at 6:25 - for some reason? I mean... why did they put the birds in there for a minute?
To me, the birds in Paladin are one of the biggest hints— something is suspicious about that
if theres not a birds part in the mv why would they put one here
paladin strait ends at 6:28

