Answer here - #127: CLANCY, PRODIGAL SON DONE RUNNING 🔥

[warm wyvern]

I think you might've misunderstood what I was saying, they weren't thinking "wow this sounds like Trench" they literally repeated the phrase "welcome back to trench" over and over and over. It's very impactful (and my argument is that it's too impactful)

[placid moss]

This is exactly why I was so disapointed with Clancy. Not because of how it sounded, but because me and my friend were grasping at straws trying to figure out where the lore was 😭

[molten hull]

then again i heard someone say that it’s an album talking about clancy’s experience as a character, but that also is kinda weak story telling wise. imo vignette is a lore song. there’s something about that screams lore to me (and no, it’s not the bird calling lol)

[native socket]

i still dont know where the lore is honestly but i know its there? i just need to really deep dive into it this weekend 😭

[molten hull]

same with routines in the night

[molten hull]

it’s def there

[placid moss]

I can see that

I also weirdly feel like there is lore in At the Risk of Feeling Dumb too, but that is just a feeling with no evidence to back that up lmao

[warm wyvern]

A lore-light album is perfectly fine by me, but when you call it the main character of the storyline there's some pretty strong expectations (can't escape those damn expectations) being established

[placid moss]

Yea, I can see that as well

I feel like the "welcome back to trench" line did make me feeling like "yippeee! more dema lore!"

idk

[molten hull]

mmm yes

[molten hull]

this

if anything this

is what upset me most

from clancy

not that they set it up to sound like trench, they set it up to be TOLD like trench

[placid moss]

THAT

Thats me

[molten hull]

like hell

SAI HAD BETTER LORE BITS

[placid moss]

100%

[warm wyvern]

if you don't mind me putting my tinfoil hat on, I kinda think trench might've been intended as a one-off for lore (with blurryface retconned in for funzies), it took off more than they expected, and tried to stretch the lore over two more albums even tho the vast majority of their song ideas are disconnected from the lore

[molten hull]

AND IT WAS A PROPAGANDA ALBUM 😭😭

[molten hull]

i lowkey agree with this.

[placid moss]

I knowww 😭 😭😭

[molten hull]

esp since ty was able to develop this within that period that he was isolated from social media and had time to just think about something

[placid moss]

I also feel like SAI contributed to my expectations as well, like the music video for The Outside for example

[molten hull]

like i agree with you heavily but at the same time sai did really well telling the story and i’m pretty sure they said themselves it was a three parter

so idk

like

not be on the nose

[warm wyvern]

they should've taken everything lore related from SAI/ Clancy, released it in 2021 as the *true * clancy (with a first/second half based in propaganda vs return), and then released everything else now with the lore behind them (and bounce man cut from the equation entirely :>)

[molten hull]

naah don’t shit on my boy bounce man

it’s never take it for me

[molten hull]

yes exactly

like there’s so much

that’s unanswered

[warm wyvern]

tin foil back on, they had the idea for a propaganda album but only had, like, 3 lore song concepts for it and had to limit themselves to the theme which meant ✨ bad filler all around✨

except when they completely broke their own rules for redecorate and it worked wonderfully

[molten hull]

and while you can argue that the whole idea is that fighting against your demons and depressions is this vague battle that sometimes the person themselves doesn’t even understand, it doesn’t solve how clancy is able to seize, why josh wasn’t real, why clancy set up that whole thing in dema. like there’s so much that’s unsolved here

so for it to be deemed “the end” it’s like

😀❓

[warm wyvern]

double album cope is like a drug

[grizzled gulch]

Midwest indigo/vignette/feeling dumb.. cant decide

[molten hull]

vignette ON TOP

[warm wyvern]

the sad but probably sensible take: they're making ts up as they go and, just like blurryface, the lore connects from album to album only to the extent they want it to when writing.

[molten hull]

technically vessel is considered part of the lore too

[molten hull]

i agree with the stretching

[warm wyvern]

I haven't heard why as of yet, if you wouldn't mind enlightening me

[molten hull]

i’m p sure it’s more the ideas in vessel and also how vessels are dead people that can be used for seizing

[warm wyvern]

eh

I mean I guess but that seems more like a clever reference than a full on connection

also it's definitely not what they mean but using the name of your album with your passed grandfathers on it as the term for necromancy in the lore is... interesting

[molten hull]

yea

[molten hull]

that’s what the album meant though. i’m p sure they said in the livestream for vessel that them passing makes the album 10x more meaningful bc of what it stands for. but i understand what you mean. i know ty loved his granddad a lot with two songs now commemorating him and i’m sure josh did too

but yea 😭

i get what you mean

[warm wyvern]

I always thought vessel meant the reverse. The boys are the vessels for what their grandfathers represent and the clash between that and their emotions

[molten hull]

but then why the skeletons?

👀

[warm wyvern]

straight take?

they wore onezies and ppl liked it so they stuck w it

[molten hull]

LOL

solid take

[warm wyvern]

Not to be a downer but I'm of the opinion that the boys are much less master storytellers and more "guys who do fun things and make stuff up that sounds dope"

For all the symbolistic problems that overcompensate poses as an opener in my eyes, there is one undeniable truth:

it kicks major ass

[molten hull]

i don’t apply that to tyler’s early writing at all

that guy was cooking

[warm wyvern]

oh prejosh the sentiment is practically moot

all religion and reflection

[molten hull]

but beautifully written. i don’t think he’ll ever write that surreal again 💔

[warm wyvern]

but around vessel it kinda seems like sound became the priority and lyrical impact was a bonus (that they were really good at harnessing)

This rly checks out for me tho

I'm one of the rare "RAB is bad vessel and ST only has 3 good songs" folk around here

At the end of the day I'm a Tame Impala fan at heart: Just make it sound cool, darn it

[molten hull]

fair enough

[tired lotus]

album p fire

[warm wyvern]

And because of this, I do like the album a lot because I have 5 songs (first 3 singles + vignette and navigating) to put on my playlist, which is all I really wanted

Trench has no even mid tracks to me but I still only consistently listen to like 6 of em

[molten hull]

for me the only mid on clancy is snap back

[wind stratus]

Masterpiece, my favorites are Next Semester, Vignette and Navigating

[hard carbon]

Poor tyler. He only wanted to make music, but he created a world. A lore. And now when he only does music, his fans r disappointed. Isn’t that sad, guys?

Clancy is fucking great. Be happy your boy put out an album that we can listen to

[meager pumice]

album is very good, better than SAI. Lavish and vignette are my top 2. New album release made me realize it’s been at least 9 years since I’ve started listening to them and it’s surreal to think that it’s been that long already

[sonic scroll]

incredible album. genuinely every song on here slapped, not a single miss. my favourites gotta be overcompensate, vignette, backslide and paladin strait. but there are a lot of insane tracks on here honestly half of the album can be considered favourites for me

[soft monolith]

AMAZING, i love midwest indigo

[coral cove]

Routines in the night 🔥

[minor coyote]

Vignette, it's something they have never done before- the disco part reminds me of My Blood though

[unreal nacelle]

Yeah this album is pretty awesome. all songs are pretty minty, but I like at the risk of feeling dumb and vignette the most.

[minor coyote]

Oldies Station is btw actually a nice song, especially the synths in the end and outro

[devout marten]

Vignette is such a big favorite for me tbh. Its amazing

[spark river]

top top songs? At The Risk of Feeling Dumb, Midwest Indigo, Navigating & The Craving Jenna's version. Favorite MV's Midwest Indigo and The Craving Jenna's version.
The initial idea of a song that Tyler looks to his audience to prove the songs worth before reimagining it, (referencing Storytellers Performance) seems like it's been done here as a role reversal instead... where he's not needing to prove good songs lyrically or musically and he's just playing creatively with Paul Meany on most of the album to bring forward a myriad of influences as to not tie down twenty one pilots stylistically to any genre. This is why Jenna's version of The Craving is so beautiful, because it stands out as a beacon of beauty above what I would say should be a critically acclaimed album worthy of the highest honors for it's rule breaking.
It's a beautiful bird flip to the critics & the industry.

[devout marten]

But honestly i love all the tracks

[pearl tiger]

I agree, the single version is like the "original version" and the Jenna's version is like "accoustic version"

[viral light]

I love when he says :
"And let it flow, let it show, shine
Let it show, let it flow, shine" in Lavish, idk why 😂

[charred hinge]

2nd best part after the proctogist line

[slender radish]

[little dragon]

NAVIGATING FOR ME, but i seriously love all the tracks. NO SKIPS.

[flat ferry]

an incredible comeback album holy shit

I think you're definitely onto something here. it wasn't just the actual music itself that made trench so great. even if the band dropped an album significantly 'better' than trench, it wouldn't have the same initial perception because it was the hiatus + the leadup to the album, and the grand expectations that they exceeded after their blowup with blurryface

I think the unique strength that clancy has over trench is that here, tyler and the rest of the team is being SO much more open about the process of creating the work, and as they said on the debut stream, they really are just some guys making music

as tyler said, 'I feel more like a dad that makes music [than a musician with three kids]'

[lean fern]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 2!

[flat ferry]

and its this shift in identity that is incredibly apparent throughout the album that makes it feel so much more personal, and I think also makes it resonate with an older audience

[calm granite]

The album is def growing on me i agree

[empty quarry]

Midwest Indigo is by far the best

[broken dagger]

Vignette

[slow forge]

Good

They can open the album with welcome back to trench because they literally go back to DEMA in the overcompensate MV

which was the biggest theme of trench

And they literally start the song with Bandito which is a trench song

[hazy gyro]

not even kidding, best album ive ever heard

[warm wyvern]

I think you might’ve missed the point of that convo, my point was that by directly comparing themselves to trench they set the wrong expectations that we were gonna get a “trench part 2” when that not what Clancy is or was meant to be

[iron rain]

i'm probably going to get hate for this but it really feels like Tyler wrote half of the album in like 2019 and half of it in 2023 and it just feels too all over the place. I enjoyed it but it just felt too unfocused and all over the place for me to really want to come back to the whole album regularly, which is weird because Ween is one of my favorite bands and all their stuff is all over the place.

Rountines is a great song, probably my favorite on here. Didn't vibe with Lavish.

[rustic steeple]

I 100% feel you on the song vibes being all over the place.

Hot take, maybe. But I really really love the first minute and thirty seconds of Overcompensate. And then... it gear shifts. And it's not like that is bad but that sets a bad tone for me, for the whole album. Because it's not the only song that does that mid-song.

[hasty surge]

MY FAVORITE IS GOTTA BE NAVIGATING ANG OLDIES STATION

[rocky edge]

the only song that didnt suit the album is lavish imo

[iron rain]

yeah i think lavish just kinda ruined the album listening experience for me. i could barely even pay attention to the final 5 songs because my brain was still wtfing from hearing lavish

i hope the album does well, but judging by the streaming numbers on spotify, which currently are only to 3pm est yesterday, not a single song that wasn't a previously released single cracked 50k streams in the first 15-ish hours of the album being out which... doesn't sound good. maybe when it updates in an hour or so every song will magically have several hundred thousand streams but to only have at most 28k people listen to the album in full on spotify on release day is concerning.

[faint basalt]

While I respect everyone's very nuanced opinions and stuff, I gotta be honest and say this is absolutely my favorite album of theirs, no question. Every single song clicked with me and I just love it

[faint basalt]

Do you think part of this is just that YouTube got more traction because of the music videos? Usually when an album releases you see that huge spike in numbers because that's how everyone is listening for the first time, but with this we just had sooooo many music videos and stuff to watch/analyze and sp I think that could've just made the numbers kind of strange

[iron rain]

maybe, but if that's true they really shot themselves in the foot with this move then, because youtube views =/= album sales, while enough streams on spotify or apple music can count as album sales

[hushed osprey]

If you are talking about funniest its vignette bc you don't expect it if your talking the best lore one it's navigating

[broken ether]

i agree lavish is definitely a big mood change and kinda wtf moment especially lyrically but i'll be honest that the instrumental carries through the theme of the album for me personally, especially with the surges in the strings and such idk that's my take

[turbid apex]

Gotta say i am so vibing with lavish, i die everytime watching the video it's like what i grew up watching videos of them goofing around back in the vessel era

but "at the risk of feeling dumb" hits so hard with how I've felt lately with some of my friends, I've been going through a really really bad spout of depression and just want to talk to my friends about it but they keep getting upset over it and end up annoyed eventually so i just keep things to myself. idk a lot of the songs on the album hit so hard with how my anxiety and depression has been festering lately and you'd think it'd make me feel worse but it's been kinda helping me process it more. which is why I've loved twenty one pilots for so long, it's just. honestly kinda beena big help with my mental health

[rich pebble]

i do think tyler setting this up as a visual album with 14 videos was always gonna impact the streaming substantially unfortunately, if you look on their youtbe then at most 330k people have watched the album all the way through on youtube and at most 850k people watched it all the way through as it premiered

which is substantially more than the at most 28k of spotify

tyler did mention on the stream he didnt think theyd be winning any awards

[rustic steeple]

The lavish mv is so good cause I recognize all the locations lol

[iron rain]

i might've just been blinded by hate of lavish lol, everything else on the album is pretty good. i felt the same way about trench and smithereens and eventually smithereens grew on me

[rustic steeple]

Yeah it took me until seeing it live to like some of the tracks from Trench

[turbid apex]

trench was an instant love for me, still has some of my favorite alt vibes to date

[oblique vine]

LAVISH

[slow forge]

I do agree that it feels over the place like some of the songs have a trench feel with the rhythm and rap parts like Overcompensate but then some of the songs have a pop-punk vibe like Next Semester, then some have like a 2010's pop vibe like Routines in the Night. Just feels like they couldn't find out what Genre they wanted this album to be based around. My favorite from this album is probably Overcompensate.

[golden smelt]

Next Semester will always have a special place in my heart because it came to me in such an specific time, just the right time actually, LOVE IT

In second place comes Lavish, I wouldn't be able to explain why, but I i really really like it

[rustic steeple]

Next Semester’s ending is so great

[wide tinsel]

Do we think we’re getting a delux version of the album?

[rustic steeple]

I can see an EP or like a 30 minute music video for Paladin Straight

[warm wyvern]

After some further relistens I found the best way to listen for me: don't treat it like trench 2, treat it like vessel 2

This is probably the first album since vessel that doesn't have a hammered down theme so going in without the expectation of one really helps

the only thing that continues to bug me is probably bad starts

MI, RITN, and ATROFD all start with a chorus/refrain repeated twice

once to establish the theme is fine but when you do it twice it feels like it's already lost novelty by the time you get to it in full force

[rustic steeple]

I have been convinced that much like with Trench, I should just keep my thoughts on Clancy to myself.

Far too many people ( not here ) assuming when I say it’s not clicking with me, that must mean I hate it or I am just not familiar with the band or something.

[restive walrus]

paladin strait i think will be like a short film

[rich pebble]

I don’t normally answer these but I guess I’ll share my thoughts about the album,

Clancy for me is a very good but a very strange and somewhat disjointed album. It’s not what I expected, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but I do think it’s also not really what the band was advertising the album as, but despite that sonically the album still blew me away. This album has some of the best and some of most meaningful and impactful songs by Tyler yet but also doesn’t exactly fulfill it’s set up as a concept album and feels like it jumps all over the map. I don’t necessarily hate the idea of a chaotic album but it does make it hard to get as immersed into the sound and vibes as with trench although trench also has some strange tracklist choices, this disjointed nature comes into play more with the second point

This album is incredibly light on direct references to the storyline it’s supposed to be concluding, storyline definitely isn’t everything but this has been set up as the continuation to a story this entire time and it feels like they almost entirely abandon the idea of incorporating it directly at all. There are plenty of allegorical connections or parallels with clancys mentale struggles but we get so few references to the story that I don’t think there’s a real narrative over the record itself. Trench has enough direct references in the album itself to piece together that there is a protagonist trapped in a walled city named dema that encourages suicide, the protagonist has joined a group of rebels and escaped out into a place called trench, and this protagonist is in a cyclical loop of escaping and being brought back . With Clancy I’m not sure what the overall direct narrative told through the music that can be pieced together is other that, “I am Clancy and I am confident and going to fight Nico, oh no now I’m not confident anymore and still going to fight Nico and then I get to Nico” this very vague almost not present storyline makes the musical disjointedness out even more to me

Overall I really enjoyed this project but I’d be lying if I said I felt completely satisfied with this in the same way as trench or if I said it felt like it wrapped up the dema story trilogy in a satisfying manner. It kinda feels like what I expected sai to be or a retry at doing that tour of genres that sai did but trying to improve on it.

Overall probably a 7/10 or an 8/10 which are both very positive ratings in my mind and it’s definitely an amazing album that’s topped sai and probably some of their other albums but it doesn’t edge out trench quite yet for me

My opinions might change over time this is still a super recent release but that’s how I’m feeling right now, I wasn’t expecting trench 2 and sonically I love the direction they went in and have no real issues other than the tone changes but I did expect them to at least attempt to tell the story through the music in a substantial way still

Trench 2 or blurryface 2 or sai 2 or just Clancy as it’s own separate thing whatever you wanna call this album, it’s still a concept album and it just didn’t really execute on half of the concept it established

We know during sai era Tyler talked about how he intentionally didn’t plan out an order for the album track-list beyond good day and redecorate but if you told me this was the album he did not order beyond opener and closer I would believe you

Some of the best music they’ve ever made but a somewhat lukewarm execution as 1 whole cohesive project and concept

Oh yeah last point, I think the fact that most of the fanbase is currently desperately banking on there being a follow up of some sort with an ep or double album is very telling of my point and illustrates what I’m trying to say very well

[empty quarry]

I would very much agree with you. The fanbase is very strongly behind the idea of a double album. I believe it’s more the case that this was a tease of a much fuller concept album to come out next year. But still under the Clancy album title more of an ultimate edition adding the last few songs and really bringing the story to its conclusion

[hasty swift]

Clancy is my 3rd fav album

1. Trench
2. Blurryface
3. Clancy
4. Vessel
5. SAI
6. RAB
7. Self Titled

I'd give it a solid 7.5/10

btw my least favorite song on clancy is probably Snap back or Oldies station

And my favorites are:

1. Vignette
2. Backslide
3. Midwest indigo
4. Navigating
5. ATROFD

[molten thistle]

wheres sai

[leaden valley]

why is self titled last 😭 it's my favorite

[hasty swift]

oh

[hasty swift]

idk

[hasty swift]

i love some songs on ST like IOFB, Fall Away, Trapdoor, Air Catcher and imo those are the only good songs on ST, but everyone has their own opinion...

[rustic steeple]

I wanna meet the “RaB is their best album” fans, just to get the feel for what they think of the other albums. I legit knew someone back in 2014 who hated vessel and was meh on self titled but loved RaB and we have since lost touch but I am so curious if they kept with the band

[high vale]

what if I told yall all the Clancy songs are my favorite

🥸

not out of all albums but I just rlly love all the songs in Clancy

[devout marten]

Fr me too

[unborn fiber]

AAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL this album tops OMFL;TRNJJEUKRHJERDHUWEHNAESW

every song is mwah

paladin is so pretty omg

I CHOSE NAVAGATING BEFROE THE RELAEES omg i got so lucky i literally relate to it on all kevels

this album made me INSANE4

[coral cove]

Yes

[rustic steeple]

I think there are two groups of people. Those that love and relate really heavily to Snap Back, and those that don’t know that particular hell.

[unborn fiber]

🙏

[stiff osprey]

1 Navigating
2 Overcompensate
3 The craving Jenna
4 The craving single
5 Next Semester
6 Routines at the night
7 At the risk of feeling dumb
8 Vignette
9 Oldies Station
10 Backslide
11 Midwest Indigo
12 Paladin Strait
13 Snap back
14 Lavish

[devout marten]

1 vignette
2 overcompensate
3 routines in the night
4 next semester
5 oldie's station
6 snap back
7 lavish
8 Midwest indigo
9 navigating
10 at the risk of feeling dumb
11 the craving (both)
12 paladin strait
13 backslide

This was so hard all of them are at the top for me

[night orbit]

Vignette is a masterpiece

my ratings

[unborn fiber]

this is so shocking to me LAVISH???? RLLY???

no way paladin at the bootom

[toxic whale]

I love the craving, oldies station, Midwest Indigo, and lavish 💋

[unborn fiber]

guy guy guyys......
every song is #1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[toxic whale]

I generally like the more sentimental songs

[unborn fiber]

honestly i liteally don t hav erankings thyre all so amaing

[potent junco]

i agree but i think navigating should be a bit higher

[haughty lily]

At the risk is easily one of the best songs they’ve ever made

[dire mango]

routines in the night

[pure escarp]

1. Next Semester & Vignette
2. Navigating
3. Paladin Strait
4. At the Risk of Feeling Dumb
5. Midwest Indigo
6. Backslide
7. Overcompensate
8. Oldies Station
9. Routines In The Night
10. Lavish
11. Snap Back
12. The Craving

[tender plaza]

THE FINAL RANKING FOR ME

1. Paladin Strait
2. Vignette
3. Navigating
4. Next Semester
5. At The Risk of Feeling Dumb
6. Oldies Station
7. Routines in the Night
8. Midwest Indigo
9. Backslide
10. Snap Back
11. Overcompensate
12. The Craving
13. Lavish
14. The Craving (Single)

None of these songs are bad imo

[primal stream]

I cant choose between ns or Vignette either!

[pure escarp]

They are both soooooo gooood

[primal stream]

I've known next semester for longer so I'll gave to see how it ends up in the long run

Vignette is my favorite album song

[tender plaza]

The run from OC to Vignette is the best run in any of their albums

[primal stream]

I disagree

Jumpsuit to chlorine is better

[sudden star]

i see people posting their rankings of the songs so i got inspired to make one

1. backslide
2. at the risk
3. navigating
4. next semester
5. vignette
6. overcompensate
7. oldies station
8. paladin strait
9. the craving (jenna)
10. routines
11. the craving (single)
12. snap back
13. midwest
14. lavish
    n/a. overcompensate (edit)
    [as of now]
    i like 1-11 a lot. snap back to me is okay, midwest is still kinda growin on me, and i don’t like lavish a lot
    i also don’t listen to the overcompensate edit cause i like the full version ^^’

[rustic steeple]

What’s the edit?

[frank bloom]

the lavish video is easily one of my favs but the song is one of my least favorite from clancy lol

[sudden star]

it shortens the intro

[sudden star]

yeah i love how they’re just havin fun with each other lol
i was laughing when i saw josh just standing there with sunglasses

[frank bloom]

literally!!

they’re just being silly i love it

[sudden star]

yup they’re just goofin around xD i love it too lol

[rustic steeple]

You mean the actual best part of the song???

[slow seal]

my personal rankings of the songs:
ranking the singles and the rest separately, atm i am biased toward the new songs since they are new and more exciting
the singles:
1 - next semester
2 - overcompensate
3 - the craving (single version)
4 - backslide
the rest of the songs:
1 - navigating
2 - vignette
3 - paladin strait
4 - oldies station
5 - routines in the night
6 - midwest indigo
7 - at the risk of feeling dumb
8 - the craving (jenna's version)
9 - snap back
10 - lavish

[molten thistle]

okay so my ranking is uh

great tier

1. navigating
2. next semester
3. routines in the night
4. overcompensate
5. midwest indigo
6. vignette
   mid tier
7. the craving (single version)
8. the craving (jenna's version)
9. at the risk of feeling dumb
   bad tier
10. lavish
11. paladin strait
12. snap back
13. oldies station
14. backslide

album overall: 6-7/10

[lean fern]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 9!

[vague sonnet]

Navigating was my listening party/first time listen favorite

Now my current non-single faves are Routines in the Night, Vignette, and At The Risk of Feeling Dumb

The Craving and especially the intro to it is such a tearjerker like I have that fear as well of growing old and realizing that I still dont know much of that person, and this song somewhat being a reply to that.

Paladin Strait is such an interesting closer song to the album I love how I'm interpreting the whole/majority of the song being sung towards Nico and his approach towards him to confront rather than a song about escaping and seeing 'us'. I still cant stop thinking how the MV will actually turn out and I wanna see what they cooked for us to feast our eyes on.

Oldies Station gives me such a hopeful vibe on just living life tbh and man it truly gives me that bit of motivation to "push on through"

Next Semester is and will probably be a consistent favorite single off of this album. I just relate to it so hard on a near-personal level with the struggles of college and the chorus having a simple yet good message of moving forward despite the mishaps to continue and/or start over

[primal stream]

One of my favorite moments on the album is the bridge in oldies station. Its looking forward at everything you'll be there for if you choose to keep living. Celebrating the joy that comes with growing older and experiencing those things.

[vague hearth]

Agreed, Oldies Station bridge is really growing on me too. It's, like . . . Really inspiring?

for ppl going through their 20s and experiencing drastic change, life moving forward, etc. this song just delivers the perfect message

"push on through" because in the end it will be worth it. In the end i think there's a good comparison to be made with this song and Next Semester.

Like they're both the light and dark side of the same coin.

(biased, those are my two favorite songs on the album. but that's probably because they share similar intents)

[turbid apex]

genuinely -- this album release came right at the time of my college graduation where I'm feeling so so lost about next steps. and I've never NOT been in school. ive been going through it super rough and taking it out on myself a lot but idk the song kinda put things into words and then broke it down like "yes life sucks right now but eventually you will cope and grow even more and start a family you're proud of, this isn't the end of everything"

so today was my first listen following along with the lyrics in front of me. i always like giving listens where i just focus on the sound and what lyrics jump out before following along with the words in front of me later to make more connections. and i was already thinking it, but this just confirms everything for me. anyone who's been through anxiety and/or depression knows the ups and downs that come with it. generally, you're not ALWAYS anxious or depressed (for those of you who are i truly hope you're getting the help you need to not feel that way ). usually it's like a game of ping-pong that goes back and forth between good times and terrible times. to me SAI is that "good day" (ha) you occasionally have that sometimes has outsiders looking in thinking, "oh they're fine, they're so happy, clearly they don't have anxiety or depression" when that's not how mental health works. there's those good days, and then there's these moments that are SO overwhelming with bad thoughts you can't shake, and all you want is someone to be there to hold you and tell you things will be okay. and my god, all the songs on the album hit that thought so hard. to come back so strong from the happier vibes of SAI with such emotional and dark pieces about mental health struggles is just absolutely encapsulating what that struggle is truly like. and to me it has the sound of blurryface+trench but more importantly the lyrics of vessel+self titled. god i love this band ;-;

[pearl tiger]

Sorry this is out of the topic of Clancy but this line, "someone to be there to hold you and tell you things will be okay" is how I feel about Migraine. When I listened to the first half of the song it feels like my feeling is being validated and when enter the bridge part the song trying to tell me that things will be okay ("life has a hopeful undertone"). Because of that, Migraine is my most favourite song, or my "best friend"..

[haughty lily]

i love lavish its great

[lean fern]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 3!

[coral cove]

Yep

[jade wasp]

Oldies station I love her

[jade zephyr]

Vignette is a good song I think

[trim sable]

Atrofd underrated

[glad steppe]

Great album

[rustic steeple]

I’m almost at the point where I can confidently have an opinion on the album. I am always surprised by anyone who can listen to it for less than like a week solid and form theirs lol

[iron rain]

i don't like how at the risk of feeling dumb sounds like clown music. the choruses are great though

[vague sonnet]

yeah the intro threw me off at the start, i still kinda laugh a lil whenever i hear it but the rest of the song is bangin

[haughty lily]

its so great

[round jolt]

1: Backslide
2/3: Routines in the night/ Vignette (I cant decide)
4: Overcompensate
5: At the Risk of Feeling Dumb
6: Next Semester
7: Lavish
8: Navigating
9: Paladin Strait
10: The Craving (Single Version)
11: Midwest Indigo
12: Oldies Station
13: Snap Back
14: The Craving (Jenna's Version)

[vast mantle]

album is a 9.5/10 for me and my 3 favs are Vignette, Backslide and Next Semester but the third fav changes every day 😭

[toxic whale]

Same with that one part in Overcompensate the "days feel like the perfect length.."

[slow forge]

It is more like vessel, I forget what song it was but one of these songs he said going back to the beginning and I just thought of vessel

[patent minnow]

1. Vignette
2. Next Semester
3. Midwest Indigo
4. Routines in the Night
5. At The Risk Of Feeling Dumb
6. Snap Back
7. Lavish
8. Oldies Station
9. Overcompensate
10. Navigating
11. Paladin Strait
12. The Craving (Single version)
13. The Craving (Jenna’s version)
14. Backslide

I love all of them but basing it on what I’m repeating the most. There are no skips at all!

[round jolt]

Backslide 😭😭😭

[celest linden]

Lavish, Vignette, and Overcompensate 🔛🔝

[patent minnow]

I’m sorry 😭 I just listen to it the least cos I overlistened when the single came out

[round jolt]

Fair

[high vale]

1. Vignette
2. Routines
3. ATROFD
4. Snap back
5. Backslide
6. Lavish
7. Midwest
8. Paladin
9. Next semester
10. Overcompensate
11. Navigating
12. Oldie's
13. Craving (single)
14. Craving (Jenna's)
    I love all the songs! This is just my personal ranking

[violet shore]

1- vignette
2- navigating
3- routines in the night
4- midwest indigo
5- next semester
6- oldies station
7- the craving (singles)
8- paladin strait
9- at the risk of feeling dumb
10- overcompensate
11- snap back
12- lavish
13- backslide
14- the craving (jenna's)

i think i forgor something.

i forgot backslide 💀

i listened to it too much ;;;;;;;

[haughty lily]

1- At the risk of feeling dumb
2- Vignette
3- Overcompensate
4- Lavish
5- Snap back
6- Paladin Strait
7- Backslide
8- Routines in the night
9- Oldies Station
10- Midwest Indigo
11- The Craving (JV)
12- Next Semester
13- Navigating
14- The Craving (SV)
Verdict: ATROFD maybe their best song they’ve ever made, Snap back is crazy underrated, Lavish has a tuff meaning.

[celest linden]

delete ATROFD and put it right below Lavish and move everything up and switch Snap Back with Navigating and thats mostly me

Next Semester being that low is insane though

[foggy sluice]

A list I have not seen at all lol:

1. SnapBack
2. The craving
3. Next semester
4. Lavish
5. Backslide
6. Overcompensate
7. Paladin strait
8. Midwest indigo
9. Oldies station
10. At the risk of feeling dumb
11. Vignette
12. Navigating
13. Routines

[foggy sluice]

My opinion fr: (lol)

1. Routines
2. Lavish
3. Navigating
4. ATROFD
5. Oldies station
6. Overcompensate
7. Backslide
8. Paladin strait
9. Next semester
10. Vignette
11. The craving
12. Midwest indigo
13. Snapback

[weary zinc]

Dang, flip that around and it's about what my list would be.

[strange ocean]

Routines is my fave too 🤌

[fallow dust]

1:Oldies Station
2:Navigating
3:The Craving (Jenna’s Version)
4:Paladin Strait
5:Next Semester
6:Overcompensate
7:Midwest Indigo
8:Vignette
9:At The Risk Of Feeling Dumb
10:The Craving (Single Version)
11:Routines In The Night
12:Backslide
13:Snap Back
14:Lavish

[slate dirge]

this looks like my list inverted loool

1. Navigating
2. Vignette
3. Midwest Indigo
4. Routines in the night
5. At The Risk Of Feeling Dumb
6. Overcompensate
7. Oldies Station
8. Paladin Strait
9. Next Semester
10. Snap Back
11. The Craving
12. Backslide
13. Lavish

[kindred kernel]

Favorite song keeps on changong, but rn its between Navigating, Routines, and Backslide's still coming in strong as a fave. Music videos i LOVE Lavish lmao, it looks like they had so much fun filming it

[fading bay]

my fav song is navigating and my fav video is lavish

[molten thistle]

hmmm

okay on a fourth listen ive come to the conclusion that the album is a solid 7/10

no longer a 6-7

the back part of the album isnt that bad

its just the lack of direction that kills it for me

[lime kelp]

the craving (jenna's version) is defo my favourite

next semester comes a VERY close second

[fringe trellis]

they're at their kitchen sink
but you don't know what that means

[trim sable]

1. Midwest Indigo
2. Navigating
3. Vignette
4. Routines
5. ATROFD
6. Paladin Strait
7. Backslide
8. Next Semester
9. Oldies Station
10. The Craving (either version)
11. Snap Back
12. Overcompensate
13. Lavish (those like 2 weird lyrics ruin it for me)

Best Video: Vignette

[vague sonnet]

1 Next Semester
2 Vignette
3 Lavish
4 Oldies Station
5 At The Risk of Feeling Dumb
6 Navigating
7 Overcompensate
8 Paladin Strait
9 Backslide
10 The Craving
11 Routines in the Night
12 Midwest Indigo
13 Snap Back

[feral cave]

The album is just perfect like you can see how much they have matured in their execution it’s so sick to see and every music video is fun to watch you can feel the effort they put into this album and it pays off so well, no skip album 100% and I think my favorites are oldies station, Navigating, Paladin Strait and the Craving (Jenna’s Version) !!

[lunar fjord]

i forgot if i answered this already but it's 10/10 🔥🔥🔥 I LOVE IT SO MUCH

idk if i have a ranking yet, but i really love all of them sm ❤️ Next Semester is still my #1 just because that one hit hard personally but i also love At The Risk Of Feeling Dumb

[rustic steeple]

I am definitely liking the album the more I listen to it. I forced my hand by taking all the other CDs out of my car lmao.

So far I think my order might be...

1. Snap Back
2. Oldies Station
3. Routines In The Night

Then...

• Lavish
• Navigating
• At The Risk Of Feeling Dumb
• Vignette
• Midwest Indigo
• Next Semester
• Overcompensate
• Backslide
• The Craving ( Single )
• Paladin Strait
• The Craving ( Jenna )

Maybe, obviously the latter 11 are not fixed in place yet, but I am really confident in my top 3.

[deft salmon]

ABSOLUTE BANGER TØP SONGS ARE: ATROFD, Navigating, and Vignette

And of course Routines

[sudden star]

yes 😭

[sudden star]

that’s cool you take a listen and deep dive after a couple- i did the same thing. and i absolutely agree. the lyricism of this album is amazing- i thought i was the only one who thought the lyrics felt a lot like self-titled and kinda like vessel. i also felt the album sounded like trench and blurryface, and to me, a bit vessel (like vignette).

[sudden star]

those are my favorites too!

[empty quarry]

Why is everyone ranking Midwest indigo on the lower half is this only a song that the Midwest can relate to??

[rustic steeple]

Ranking songs is hard yo

[storm bronze]

my clancy ranking

1. At The Risk Of Feeling Dumb
2. Oldies Station
3. Lavish
4. Vignette
5. Midwest Indigo
6. Navigating
7. Snap Back
8. Paladin Strait
9. Next Semester
10. Routines In The Night
11. The Craving (Jenna’s Version)
12. Overcompensate
13. Backslide

[sacred echo]

At The Risk Of Feeling Dumb is a really nice song

[coral cove]

My clancy playlist:

1. Overcompensate
2. Next semester
3. Backslide
4. Midwest indigo
5. Routines in the night
6. Vignette
7. The craving (single version)
8. Lavish
9. Navigating
10. Snap back
11. The oldies station
12. At the risk of feeling dumb
13. Paladin Strait

[stiff osprey]

take a nap what the hell did u do

[storm bronze]

i don’t think any of the songs are bad just my preference

[rustic steeple]

Do we know who the kid singing underneath Tyler at around 1:02 on Snap Back is?

@lean loom did offer an answer of “original Clancy” which seems possible via lore

[glad timber]

Still Overcompensate but Navigating and Routines are so freaking good

[brisk condor]

the correct ranking

[stiff osprey]

fax

the top 3

[rustic steeple]

I should do a full tier list soon. Cause I am pretty sure Snap Back is in my top 10 for the band lol.

[vague hearth]

perfect. it was perfect. everything. down to the last minute details.

[rustic steeple]

I keep hearing backslide as I’ll take any anything you have if you could throw me a lime, like the fruit

[jade wasp]

so real

[elfin folio]

My updated rankings

Next semester
Navigating
Vignette
At the risk of feeling dumb
Midwest indigo
Routines in the night
Backslide
Lavish
SnapBack
Oldies station
Overcompensate
Paladin Strait
The craving (single version
The craving (Jennas Version)

[fair summit]

I love the Album so much!

I love the vibes, lyrics and for me feels the Album so free. I dont know how to describe it, but when i hear it, then i feel "free".

For every song, I can find something that means something to me.

And my Ranking so far is:

Next semester
Navigating
Routines in the night
Backslide
Vignette
SnapBack
At the risk of feeling dumb
Midwest indigo
The craving (single version
Oldies station
Paladin Strait
Lavish
The craving (Jennas Version)
Overcompensate

[molten thistle]

why is overcompensate at the bottom

[mild fulcrum]

my rankings:

1. paladin strait
2. navigating
3. routines in the night
4. vignette
5. at the risk of feeling dumb
6. overcompensate
7. the craving (jennas version)
8. next semester
9. backslide
10. lavish
11. oldies station
12. midwest indigo
13. snap back

idk theyre all soso good

[jade zephyr]

My Clancy Ranking (one week later)

1. Vignette
2. Lavish
3. Oldies Station
4. Paladin Strait
5. Overcompensate
6. Navigating
7. Midwest Indigo
8. Next Semester
9. At The Risk Of Feeling Dumb
10. Backslide
11. Routines In The Night
12. Snap Back
13. The Craving (both versions)

[jade zephyr]

I agree with 100% of this

[violet shore]

I really like the album. Its almost like a mix of blurryface and SAI. I like all the music videos, and am exicited for Palidin Strait. My favortite tracks are vingette and navigating.

[lunar fjord]

lol this reminds me that my mom would only hear "When a leaf won't save my seat" during Chlorine 😭

and she thought it was like the deepest thing ever

[deep knot]

my current ranking (even though i don't usually doing these)

1. overcompensate
2. lavish
3. navigating
4. atrofd
5. ritn
6. snap back
7. vignette
8. paladin strait
9. next semester
10. oldies station
11. midwest indigo
12. backslide
13. the craving

[solar torrent]

meow

[vague sonnet]

update on rankings after more than a week of listening:
1 Next Semester
2 Vignette
3 Oldies Station
4 Lavish
5 At The Risk of Feeling Dumb
6 Paladin Strait
7 Navigating
8 Overcompensate
9 Backslide
10 The Craving
11 Midwest Indigo
12 Routines in the Night
13 Snap Back

[lean loom]

Maybe the song Pantaloon relates to snap back?

[lean loom]

Songs:

1. Navigating
2. Vignette
3. The Craving (Jenna’s Version)
4. Overcompensate
5. Lavish
6. Next Semester
7. Backslide
8. At The Risk of Feeling Dumb
9. Midwest Indigo
10. Oldies Station
11. Routines in the Night
12. Snap Back
13. Paladin Strait

Music Videos:

1. Lavish
2. At the risk of feeling dumb
3. The Craving (Jenna’s Version)
4. Oldies Station
5. Overcompensate
6. Vinette
7. Routines In the Night
8. Navigating
9. Next Semester
10. Snap Back
11. Midwest Indigo
12. Backslide
13. PS (only because we have seen it yet)
14. The Craving (Single Version)

[neat otter]

My Clancy ranking:

1. Backslide
2. Overcompensate
3. Navigating
4. Oldies Station
5. Vignette
6. At the Risk of Feeling Dumb
7. Midwest Indigo
8. Paladin Strait
9. Routines in the Night
10. Lavish
11. Snap Back
12. Next Semester
13. The Craving

[toxic whale]

What did single version ever do to you 😭

[lean loom]

Existed

[open axle]

what do u have against the single version mv?

or backslide?

[lean loom]

He’s not feeding the ducks with that bread he’s wasting. AND I WILL NOT STAND FOR IT!

As for the single version, there was a build up. Just to shoot a bullet.

[open axle]

lmao

for single version i kinda get that but its the point of the video no

the shell represents the song

the shotgun shooters represent the music industry

they put a ton of effort but no one cares

[lean loom]

Yeah I didn’t really like the point. But I felt it could’ve been better. I felt TOP could’ve done more.

[toxic whale]

Ironically, single version is the only Clancy song I have heard on the radio, and I've heard it multiple times on the alt station they play at my job

[open axle]

same actually

well besides overcompensate

[toxic whale]

I really thought next semester or maybe Midwest Indigo would be radio songs

[open axle]

my guess was routines but ig not

[lean fern]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 5!

[unique cloak]

1. vignette
2. routines
3. lavish
4. backslide
5. navigating
6. midwest indigo
7. at the risk
8. next semester
9. overcompensate
10. paladin
11. oldies
12. snap back
13. the craving

[brisk condor]

Interesting one

I wouldn't be able to make a ranking of this album

It's one of the very few albums i've listened to ever that is impossible to rank the songs of

[lean fern]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 9!

[past furnace]

Lavish, oldies station, Midwest indigo, at the risk of feeling dumb, navigating for me personally.

[meager rain]

Navigating, RITN, Vignette, Midwest Indigo, Oldies and Overcompensate these songs are top notch for me btw, I'm new to the server so I wanna say hello to all of you!

[rotund cedar]

My favorites so far are Next Semester and Vignette.

[violet shore]

Backslide and the craving

[violet forge]

Midwest indigo

[ruby pumice]

Oldies Station and Next Semester

[ruby pumice]

Hallo and welcome

[frigid narwhal]

It’s pretty good

[celest linden]

Yeah it’s good, sad we don’t get any albums until 2027

Not like there’d be a double album or anything

[frigid narwhal]

yeah, theres probably only one way we get anything new before then and it would be a double album. Maybe we’ll see josh put on a drum show at some festivals though.

[jolly aspen]

theres no way its a double album lol, it’d be too rushed and end up garbage… plus they probably have to think a lot about the intentions of the lyrics before anything else like another whole album