modern ether
If anybody knows where these pictures at the end of the video are from, please let me know. I can't seem to find anything other than people saying it's by Étienne-Louis Boullée. Other than maybe a similar style there doesn't seem to be any connection.
They look like architectural drawings, maybe a floorplan of a dome and an exterior (maybe a cross section but probably not) of possibly the same structure.
peak stream
I agree i’d like to know
wary dagger
Perhaps they were inspired by the design of Newton's cenotaph, in any case Newton's cenotaph is a funerary monument, so
modern ether
Perhaps they were inspired by the design of Newton's cenotaph, in any case Newto...
it's definitely the most common thing I see popping up all of my searches. I've been trying to find more of Boullee's work in one place but I'm also looking through similar artists like Claude-Nicolas Ledoux. It definitely looks utopian.
glacial shore
It reminds me of the Senate building from Star Wars, lol.
modern ether
I remember at the time of release people were saying that the left image is a map of dema and I was like "oh ok cool" because I wasn't invested in the lore but actually looking at it.. nah.
modern ether
It reminds me of the Senate building from Star Wars, lol.
lol I actually looked into sci-fi related architecture just to be sure it wasn't a ship
if I've somehow missed all of the posts pointing out where these are from i'm gonna feel real dumb but I genuinely need to get to the bottom of this
frail void
Four years ago I was trying to research the origin. Used Photoshop to get a clearer image and posted a question on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/architecture/s/QW0vF41K1P
modern ether
Four years ago I was trying to research the origin. Used Photoshop to get a clea...
oh cool! did you find anything that might be related to the pic? I'm having trouble narrowing in on any specific artist
wary dagger
Four years ago I was trying to research the origin. Used Photoshop to get a clea...
Speaking of Frank Lloyd Wright, do you know that he used huge pots as pinnacles? There is a story that tells in the architecture career, the story says that one day an owner of one of the buildings designed by FLLW decided to destroy one of these flower pots, and as a result the entire wall that was supported by the flower pot collapsed.
Maybe this make sense with the song(?)
It's like an inside joke but maybe it makes sense
Something seems unnecessary or out of place can cause a lot of damage
modern ether
I'm trying to keep in mind that it night not even be a building. But I wouldn't even know where to start if I go down that path.
pseudo pine
The greek orthodox church might make some sense. It's also called "eastern orthodox" and it is similar but different to catholicism. Like they also use stoles like the catholic church, but they do not have "Bishops." One of the huge disputes between Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy is about the authority and jurisdiction of the pope, with Orthodox people thinking the pope and religious authority in Catholicism have been given way too much power to put it simply. I've always thought that having the leaders of the city be Bishops and having the Banditos' sayings related to East might be referencing this conflict/duality especially since we now know that Vialism is a "hijacked" religion which could map onto the idea that the authorities of the Catholic church (aka Bishops) seizing too much power in the religion.
modern ether
The greek orthodox church might make some sense. It's also called "eastern ortho...
It's definitely quite similar in shape and would make sense with the pole/tree thing on the right side. The dome is a bit more narrow than than the framed picture. Maybe it's an old concept sketch but I'm not seeing anything like that yet.
pseudo pine
Here's another weird background poster. Can't be seen anywhere in past photos of Big Fun (toy shop where Choker was filmed) or online anywhere that I can find. It might be related in some way to those posters from The Hype although it would be difficult to tell without knowing the meaning of either image. Just thought I'd offer this in case others can make any connections/insights
modern ether
It's hard to tell whether the area underneath the black dome is made of solid walls or just open air with vertical poles. The other weird thing about the photo is the sky cuts off on the right side but everything else carries on..
modern ether
Here's another weird background poster. Can't be seen anywhere in past photos of...
oh that's super weird lmao I can't even figure out what it's supposed to be
pseudo pine
It's hard to tell whether the area underneath the black dome is made of solid wa...
Yeah I almost thought it was floating with waterfalls coming out of it or something cuz the poles seem extremely thin
That's also the image that Tyler tapes up at the end, no?
modern ether
Yeah I almost thought it was floating with waterfalls coming out of it or someth...
yeah! It's like a weird ufo gazebo or carousel. Maybe an uninflated hot air balloon... idk I've been searching on and off for a few days now
modern ether
That's also the image that Tyler tapes up at the end, no?
yeah, which is why I immediately thought architecture like I thought it symbolises rebuilding dema in some way
pseudo pine
Maybe an old old concept for a submersible vessel, like from before we had submarines?
modern ether
oooo maybe
modern ether
I've also been looking at planetariums. it could also be a hot air balloon..
"Andrée's Arctic balloon expedition of 1897 was a failed Swedish effort to reach the North Pole, resulting in the deaths of all three expedition members, S. A. Andrée, Knut Frænkel, and** Nils **Strindberg."
I am NOT going down this rabbit hole at 2 in the morning
worthy forge
I'll go down that rabbit hole lemme grab my laptop lol
oh boy this is certainly a rabbit hole
not sure how important this is, but they were only in flight for 2 days before crashing on this island which is in Norway and is the easternmost part of norway if my research is correct
even though they crashed in 1897 they weren't discovered until 1930 when we recovered some frozen film that's very interesting, but these are the pictures that may be of importance
heres a picture from their funeral in 1930
and some artifacts found
worthy forge
It's hard to tell whether the area underneath the black dome is made of solid wa...
inverted it looks more normal imo
modern ether
not sure how important this is, but they were only in flight for 2 days before c...
dang this whole thing is crazy and sad, I was just looking into any potential photos of the balloon launching / being inflated but nothing.
modern ether
inverted it looks more normal imo
ohh interesting!!!!!
worthy forge
dang this whole thing is crazy and sad, I was just looking into any potential p...
i saw some hang on
modern ether
A balloon definitely would explain the two horizontal rings and the vertical lines being rope.. just saw an old reddit comment saying it looks like a paul villa ufo also. man I can see why this hasn't been solved in the last five years lol
earnest nova
"Andrée's Arctic balloon expedition of 1897 was a failed Swedish effort to reach...
andre and nills are both bishops
modern ether
Royal albert hall similar shape but not much else
Nuclear reactors are another possible dome structure
modern ether
salt lake tabernacle
worthy forge
salt lake tabernacle
that looks just like it fr
another picture
also the university of Illinois state farm center
modern ether
my head hurts. here's a close up of the left picture if anybody feels like snooping around
modern ether
totally
it kinda looks like two designs on top of each other but idk.
the shapes in the middle are so hard to distinguish.
brazen ember
I know it’s a stretch but what do y’all think about it resembling these. It’s located in Hawai’i atop Mauna Kea
worthy forge
I know it’s a stretch but what do y’all think about it resembling these. It’s lo...
broo
that's crazy
modern ether
I know it’s a stretch but what do y’all think about it resembling these. It’s lo...
yooo good find! the dome is a little flatter in the hype pic but it might just be an early concept sketch. this one is right next to a slope too just like the pic...
there's also a lot of futuristic ufo looking structures in soviet mordernism that may fit the description.
modern ether
@ tyler what's your damage, man...
modern ether
here's my pinterest board for this subject for anybody interested in helping out!:
https://pin.it/6ySwlilIU
modern ether
Those central shapes on the other picture kind of resemble these central shapes i've seen on a lot of church plans. I don't know anything about architecture though so I don't know what they're called or if it would even make sense for them to be laid out like that
brazen ember
^ those two shapes look like the same image of a sitting lion / big cat mirrored
Bestie, be honest… how long have you been looking at those pictures? 😂
I did go through your Pinterest board and thought this one looked the most similar
Even though it’s just the inside part that matches
sudden bone
oh that's super weird lmao I can't even figure out what it's supposed to be
Yeah, I mean it looks kinda like a stadium with a big cover over the top
modern ether
Bestie, be honest… how long have you been looking at those pictures? 😂
when i close my eyes at night i just see domes
modern ether
different angle shows there's a whole other situation going on over on the left side. it looks to me like a bunch of different size structures but i'm gonna stop investigating here for a bit lmao i know too much about architecture now
brazen ember
This is what I could make out was in the middle shape wise
modern ether
if i think hard enough about these CGI buildings in Saturday i could probably dissociate into another dimension and find the answers
modern ether
other framed images in the music video
modern ether
very top photo looks like a futuro house, bottom left looks like a cross section of a mountain with maybe a city inside, right pic idk lol
most of the images seem to be architectural, the bottom left pic looks like it has a dome or a ufo shaped thing chillin out on the surface on the top right, like a very similar shape to the futuro house.
oak knoll
I'm like 98% sure it's nothing but I was just thinking about 2 things bc you said the logo looked like lions. 1- there's another building owned by the Mormon church not far from the tabernacle called the lion house. And 2- there are 2 big lion statues in front of the east (senate) building at the Utah State Capitol in SLC which is like 2 minutes from the tabernacle
Ok after using the words east and senate it made it seem slightly more likely but still
And the map of the Capitol has this in the middle that looks vaguely like the symbol? Idk it's probably nothing but just random thoughts
Ok I'm spiraling but that circle looks awfully familiar...
worthy forge
Ok I'm spiraling but that circle looks awfully familiar...
YOO
oak knoll
YOO
Are you a fan of my spiral? XD I found a bunch of connections. I've been to SLC many times so I know all the things
worthy forge
Are you a fan of my spiral? XD I found a bunch of connections. I've been to SLC ...
yess I would love to see other connections you found too !
modern ether
And the map of the Capitol has this in the middle that looks vaguely like the sy...
yea that oval shape is so elusive because the building i'm looking for.. basically nothing is shaped like that apart from a few soviet structures. this is really cool though, pls share anything else you find relevant
modern ether
I stepped away for a bit because i felt like i was just lost in the sauce and going down the same paths over and over so i'm just gonna dump everything i feel may be relevant to the search:
the first artists that comes up when I show the pic to people are Claude Nicolas Ledoux and Etienne Louis Boullee - mostly because the image looks utopian and slightly similar to the Cenotaph for Newton. I can't seem to find anything in their works that look like this exact structure.
The framed picture has tape over the bottom which is probably covering text.
At the beginning, I noticed the dome is kind of flat in a way that's really specific and I could kind of see a similarity with the Hagia Sophia, and was thinking maybe it's a cross-section but the similarities kinda stop there.
searching for UFO shaped buildings lead me to the Buzludzha monument and also the Kiev institute for information.
I've looked into Byzantine architecture, utopian architecture, ampitheatres, observatories, the bourbaki panorama, inflatable dome structures, ROTATING RESAURANTS LOL?? anyway.. i got nothing
A user on the architecture subreddit said:
"Checked on Ledoux, Soane, Nash, Labrouste, Pugin, and a lot more. Nothing matches.
If it's a concrete dome, then I am fairly certain this is not, nor ever was, a real structure. It would be huge and recognizable. I'm guessing it's a fabric covered dome-shaped awning. Notice the frill around the edges and how it looks to be open-air? Perhaps it is some market or pavilion from antiquity."
So it might not even be a domed structure, it might be the front end of a different shape building.
worthy forge
dang
peak stream
This is what I could make out was in the middle shape wise
reminds me of the dangerous bend just a little
ocean charm
to me it looks like shaking hands
as in "shaking hands with the dark parts of my thoughts"
from doubt
idk if that has to do with anything though
void flume
I know it’s a stretch but what do y’all think about it resembling these. It’s lo...
what what island?
void flume
Or the |-/ mirrored on itself
neon gravestones?
void flume
If anybody knows where these pictures at the end of the video are from, please l...
i think thats the building
this is the image linked
we need rainbolt
i cant find anything important about this building that links in any way to anything even closely related to this
modern ether
i think thats the building
it's definitely the closest shape
modern ether
we need rainbolt
rainbolt save us
naive imp
I don’t think this is the same thing, but it is interesting regardless:
It’s called the Bourbaki panorama and exists still today, with shops in the bottom section. It is in Lucerne, Switzerland.
grim flame
looking at the building, it seems to be an oblate sphere floating in air while being supported by a ring with pillars so we would need to find something that looks exactly like that. It has to be a painting or a drawing though, and I highly doubt the structure itself ever existed as it'll be impossible because of physics and stuff
void flume
looking at the building, it seems to be an oblate sphere floating in air while b...
from a different angle the tabernacle looks like that
if it was something not real its very likely thats the first visual of it and all the others are just descriptions so we would have to figure how to search for where it came from
void flume
no the salt lake tabernacle
grim flame
it definitely has the shape
although the picture looks like a much taller and grander building
okay I know this is shallow but on the Wikipedia page for that building it says
The Salt Lake Tabernacle was inspired by an attempt to build a Canvas Tabernacle in Nauvoo, Illinois, in the 1840s. That tabernacle was to be situated just to the west of the Nauvoo Temple and was to be oval-shaped, much the same as the Salt Lake Tabernacle. However, the Nauvoo edifice (never built) was to have amphitheater-style or terraced seating, and was to have canvas roofing.
we should look into that more
the page cites this books
Andrew, Laurel B. (1978), The early temples of the Mormons: the architecture of the Millennial Kingdom,
page 59
here's some screenshots from my phone of the book
I'll try and read more tomorrow on my PC
ocean bolt
Did anyone suggest it might b an amphitheatre?
grim flame
Did anyone suggest it might b an amphitheatre?
I don't think so no
peak stream
I wonder if this is one of the thousands of questions they’re going to answer this era
cus i really hope it is
and i really hope that they actually do clear everything up that they’ve put out there during trench
modern ether
nothing new but an old pic from jenna's instagram shows slightly more detail. Kinda looks like birds flying away and the white border on the right seems more like a giant pillar
modern ether
I stepped away for a while because I felt like I was hitting a wall and looking in the wrong places. Knowing it's not a photograph definitely rules some stuff out but even with fresh eyes it's still a huge mystery
some random person is gonna log on and say "oh that's definitely the Reconstruction of Ancient Spaceship Society Church it's literally in every house in south Berlin I can't believe you guys didn't catch this"
tropic thunderBOT
some random person is gonna log on and say "oh that's definitely the Reconstruct...
modern ether
Andrew Donoho interview, he really briefly talks about set dressing around 14:40
https://twitter.com/top_cmplt_dvrsn/status/1686476356924866565
Twitter
frail void
nothing new but an old pic from jenna's instagram shows slightly more detail. Ki...
Oh, details… can you please link her post?
modern ether
Oh, details… can you please link her post?
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cbyf0y5grbh/?hl=en here ya go!
frail void
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cbyf0y5grbh/?hl=en here ya go!
Thanks
modern ether
This twitter user identified one of the other framed pictures a while back but I'm putting it here just in case it connects to the others somehow https://twitter.com/AnaAllanPoe/status/1448275676793122821/photo/2
Twitter
Sony Center Berlin... The Hype location sessions (Berlin)...
modern ether
The Sony Centre photo is really bugging me lol. It's so specific and might not even be on purpose but idk. The only thing I can think of about Berlin in relation to the lore is the concept of destruction and rebuilding. This specific area of land has definitely seen that wrt ww2 and the berlin wall.
probably unintentional connections:
modern ether
currently looking into landscape etchings / engravings based on the horizontal lines in the sky, just in case anybody else feels like snooping around.
brazen ember
I can’t believe how difficult it has been trying to find these paintings irl. The only other explanation is that they were made specifically for the music video, but I feel like that’s not the case
modern ether
I can’t believe how difficult it has been trying to find these paintings irl. Th...
it's weird and the building / main subject to SO vague it's hard to even figure out the location and time period. I've definitely thought the same that maybe it's a commissioned piece but it's also just such a specific style and there's obviously no artist mentioned on the production team, just a set dresser. So it was thrifted or maybe a print.
The only progress I've made is finding works that are a similar style/medium.
A lot of these works seem to be french but there is SO much art out there in this engraving / lithograph style i don't know lol
modern ether
Tyler Joseph tweet about bagels if anything in this thread is remotely correct
Tweet about graham crackers if this has anything to do with Berlin I'm at my limit sir
dusky patio
I think it’s from the shy away music video where he is on the phone…also it may be what Tyler calls..the oldies station since it looks like it’s from the 30s or so
frail void
@modern ether I think I finally found it! It’s the Annunciation Greek Orthodox church in Milwaukee by Frank Lloyd Wright
worthy forge
<@693227421603725394> I think I finally found it! It’s the Annunciation Greek Or...
Omg???
quaint epoch
in the MV, he tapes this photo back up after the explosions -- he's avoiding the hype and keeping faith in his music
tribal vine
All the practice from the shirts probably made this clear picture pretty easy to find didn’t it? (;
modern ether
<@693227421603725394> I think I finally found it! It’s the Annunciation Greek Or...
This is such a late response from me but it's definitely one of the closest matching structures. I would love love love to be able to track down the actual painting to confirm but nothing as of yet.
My only doubt with this match up is that the dome on the church is way more flat compared to the one in the mv. It's definitely a good lead though.
I haven't been able to do a lot of digging as of late but the shirts are kinda pulling me back in. There's a lot of architectural imagery and I'm hoping there's a link to this
frail void
Hi LC, you‘re welcome to help us with the shirts! Dive in! There’s a Trello and a Miro board recording our progress (linked in settings of our thread). Good luck
robust summit
Those central shapes on the other picture kind of resemble these central shapes ...
Where if these are the tunnels?
robust summit
wow
modern ether
Hello I'm back... Life has been more important than tracking down a painting but ALSO ALSO.. the way the sky cuts off at the edges but the main subject carries on past those edges has me wondering if this is a possible collage of two images. An old painting with a newer futuristic structure on top.
Maybe those shirt collages are thematically connected... Maybe it's nothing. Idk. Just something to think about.
formal latch
This is what I could make out was in the middle shape wise
isnt that just 2 top logos like stuck together in a weird way (or at least looks like that for me)
formal latch
Is this resolved? Or should we keep investigating? I got lost for a while 🫠🫠🫠
i just joined this thread and i realised how old the conv actually is
