#Double Album Confirmed

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wraith gulch
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That’s a great point about SAI especially. It actually almost feels like they were setting us up to be accustomed to that theme change within an era. Hmm..

wheat gorge
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yeah, almost like they were testing something and it worked really well, I feel like that Icy Tour theme worked even better, esp. when it came to the story.

left kite
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Yeah, we had whole new costumes and set pieces and lore and everything

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The weird glasses

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So much changed

wheat gorge
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yeah, especially if there is new music and new lore, the second half of this era could look wildly different. like, theres still all the loose ends and gaps in the timeline to explain, to see how the citizens operate in the revolution, the stuff about the art cave, the ancient vialist texts, Pierre's way to break the cycle, Clancy's powers, Nico's goals, why Clancy is so important, etc. etc.

wraith gulch
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Yep. And I had kind of given up on the hope that we would eventually find out more about the rest of the bishops, but then we got that tidbit about Nills in the FPE letter so late in the tour/era that it makes me wonder if they actually are planning to add some more color to their characters after all, to some extent at least.

Not to mention all the questions about Torchbearer - his background, why he became the leader of the banditos, his relationship with Keons, how him and Clancy know each other etc.

wheat gorge
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oh yes I have a million questions about that. I have a rough idea of what I think their full plan was but I would love confirmation on that. there's still so much we don't know about

blissful jetty
# wraith gulch Yep. And I had kind of given up on the hope that we would eventually find out mo...

well, nills (goner) represents the fear of defeat. tyler has been dropping hints throughout the tour that clancy has failed. references to the color blue (or cyan), according to this BLURRYFACE tweet - defeat. all indications are that clancy is the one who didn't get out - 'we'll win, but not everyone will get out' (NATN). he's captured and his fate is unknown

i think tyler is following his tweet before the tour - 'the show is a flashback. like the entire life's passing by'. we are "frozen" at the moment of clancy's defeat to nico and see his internal struggle or humility

blissful jetty
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also 'heavydirtysoul' is kind of taken to represent the fear of repeating cycles... i think this song represents the fear of death. tyler is literally asking god if he can accept him, if he can save him, despite the 'heavy dirty soul'. he recognizes his vices and sins committed, his own unbelief, his doubts. death inspires him like a dog inspires a rabbit — he is afraid of dying and never knowing, never reaching his life's goal (my interpretation) — 'you only live once'

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death and defeat sounds very grim. of course, it can also be interpreted as fatigue from the 'eternal escape' that fails time and time again

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the title 'inferno' for a potential album is very fitting in case the ending of clancy's story delivers the moral of 'learn to live with it, not run. it has the same speed as you'
go through nine circles of hell and suffering to reach paradise was dante's goal. what does clancy want to accomplish? so far everything hints that clancy will be the "missing" bishop. he's always had a plan, so this is most likely intentional. to collapse the system from within? who knows

blissful jetty
blissful jetty
tribal raptor
clever falcon
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yeah take for example the icy tour vs the takeover tour: same era, different stuff

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well 1:22:06 would be June 22nd, but idk lol

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which is almost exactly 1 year after the paladin mv

reef oxide
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So hear me out 7 shows left and six letters something must be happening

wheat gorge
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I'm thinking the last show will have a letter from Clancy to TB

blissful jetty
lean mango
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Today feels important for some reason

tame tendon
brazen leaf
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not many shows left

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cant believe they're literally in my country rn

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so excited

stray kettle
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If we get double album I hope the closing track lyrics were teased during takeover tour ending of redecorate.

https://youtu.be/yNJs7WVbvmk?si=B4yZSnQZGD6mmP35

“youre…gonna be OOOOOOOOOKAAAAAAAY” is like the ultimate antithesis to “im a goner don’t let me be gone”

The cycle finally ends. Clancy is not a goner. He’s made it this far. He’s gonna be ok.

I know the most likely outcome is it was just a little addition to redecorate, but that little ending that was a little different each show stuck with me big time and probably saved my life. It feels so fitting to close the story out with it. Screaming that we’re gonna be ok.

Tyler Joseph of Twenty One Pilots performs a solo rendition of "Redecorate" live at their hometown show at Nationwide Arena in Columbus, Ohio on the Takeover Tour. Filmed on October 30, 2021.

▶ Play video
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“Don’t let me be gone” -> “For now I will stay alive” -> “I don’t wanna go like this” -> “I’m past the point of no return” -> “You’re gonna be ok”

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If somehow my theory is right against literally every odd, maybe he teased it years in advance because we needed to hear it early, during one of the darkest times in recent history. Idk.

blissful jetty
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'inferno' theory was ruined

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N I E N T
and speculative F from the shirt

neat iron
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Omg

blissful jetty
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NINE TOWERS

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10 letters - matches

plucky cypress
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How many bottoms are we missing?

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Also, is it possible that there's more letters we haven't found yet?

dusty kiln
karmic lake
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T? I really don’t know what this word could be now but it’s certainly not inferno

dry dagger
blissful jetty
dusty kiln
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letter 5 i believe

blissful jetty
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where can i check it?

plucky cypress
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Nico Eaten makes most sense at this moment imo

blissful jetty
dry dagger
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archive.demacouncil.top

dusty kiln
karmic lake
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Do we still think the Morse code could be the title?

plucky cypress
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I'm definitely less confident now

blissful jetty
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nine_eaten
nico_eaten

tame tendon
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nie not

karmic lake
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What could eaten mean though

tame tendon
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clancy eats nico

wraith gulch
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Fed to the vultures like in Zoroastrianism

plucky cypress
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Also could mean trash makes his return and has a unpleasant meal

tame tendon
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its not nico eaten bruh

neat iron
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Taken ?

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Could it fit ?

tame tendon
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no

plucky cypress
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If the letters are scrambled, yes. But if the letters are fixed, then there are very few options left

blissful jetty
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my bet still on NINETOWERS

tame tendon
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they're not scrambled

blissful jetty
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without space

silk vector
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inferno nation we lost

tame tendon
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no shit

plucky cypress
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If they're not scrambled, what makes more sense than Nico Eaten. Nothing else really fits in the spacing

tame tendon
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nico eaten 😭

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rare footage of nico eaten

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no it cant be

blissful jetty
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all of them

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clancy included

tame tendon
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even rarer footage of nine being eaten

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its nico/nine but not eaten

blissful jetty
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EATEN BY FLAMES

tame tendon
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there's more words, they come up with some overcompensating stuff theyll come up with an another random ass latin word now

plucky cypress
dark ermine
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I don’t need the name of the record, I need to know if there’s another record

blissful jetty
tame tendon
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there is

tame tendon
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besides eaten

plucky cypress
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I don't think it's reference to the album name anymore

tame tendon
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its probably nico elton

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because nico = elton john

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WAIT

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what if its a surname or some other kind of a name

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like the simone weil theory

dusty kiln
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what

blissful jetty
shadow cipherBOT
blissful jetty
tame tendon
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it could be anything then

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elton, eyton?

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anything

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maybe there's some infamous mathematician again

olive plume
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at this point, unless it’s in a different language, it’s most likely “eaten”

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but we don’t know if the first word is “nico” or “nine” yet

tame tendon
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if its a common word then yeah

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but like i said

olive plume
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this late in the game, when we’re at the ending, they wouldn’t do that

tame tendon
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they wouldn't do that:

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t shirts

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key smash

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inferno

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"chapter 25"

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they dont seem to be in a hurry to end the story..

stray kettle
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remember everyone, double album theory existed before some of these events. Inferno being the letter code was always a long shot given its breakdown so far with the space.

Double album theory is still very very alive. SOMETHING is happening. It’s not nothing.

plucky cypress
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Isn't Nico's last name Bourbaki?

stray kettle
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Yes

wraith gulch
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In before “what if it’s his middle name”

plucky cypress
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Nico Elton Bourbaki

dark ermine
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I need a code tonight, I need something BIG, VERY BIG at the last show

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I’m tired of waiting, all or nothing in May/June

quaint steppe
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I’m not proposing this is correct at all but out of curiosity I put the letters we have backwards into a missing letter solver and E_T_N backwards could be Nitre, an explosive substance. Just cause Eaten seems bizarre. Though as Dema points out on their youtube channel it could be to do with Trash the dragon or the vultures

karmic lake
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I just saw twenty.one.pilots.clique on insta make a good point: since inferno doesn’t make sense anymore, what is feef?

woven prawn
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The "inferno" theory might have been discounted a bit too early

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If London N2's letter (which will be one complete peice most likely) also feaures morse code, the codes being an anagram for Inferno could still be a possibility but alongside another word that would either be 3 or 4 letters and contain the 'T' (3 or 4 depending if feeF is significant or not)

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Whilst that begs the question of why the letters were numbered (my guess is convenience), there is still a small possiblity Inferno has some significance

tame tendon
karmic lake
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Yeah maybe

blissful jetty
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@civic comet suggested the album title might be 'point of no return'

all the letters we know fit (but not in the FPE letters order)

poINT oF no rEturN

bright tinsel
civic comet
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another idea I had is "Nitent." It's an uncommon word meaning "shining" or "bright," which could metaphorically align with the themes of discovery, hope, or revelation often explored in Twenty One Pilots' work.

blissful jetty
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i figure it out

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it's NINTENDO

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deltarune june 5th

/j

civic comet
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A fitting word could be "Nientide."
It evokes the idea of a rising and falling motion like a tide which resonates with Twenty One Pilots' themes of struggle, persistence, and personal cycles of doubt and hope. The band's storytelling often explores emotional highs and lows, with characters navigating waves of uncertainty before finding purpose. "Nientide" could symbolize that journey a force pulling them forward despite the challenges.

blissful jetty
civic comet
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make it sound more formal

tall lodge
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There goes the inferno theory

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Alright yall I give up 😭

molten sandal
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but its sounds really cool

civic comet
molten sandal
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yeah i think

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lowkey im gonna miss inferno

civic comet
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yeah...

molten sandal
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it made so much sense

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itd be funny if tyler checks the discord and yt and stuff and goes like 'oh crap i didnt think about inferno'

mild valley
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nine › ten and Clancy becomes an additional bishop is what I'm seeing in the morse code rn

blissful jetty
civic comet
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back to nine

civic comet
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also didnt all the bishops die

onyx dust
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actually are all dead except Nico

civic comet
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at the end

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besides nico

onyx dust
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yes

civic comet
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yeah

blissful jetty
onyx dust
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he swished them with his antlers

civic comet
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he used telekinesis on them right

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or whatever it was called

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they all fell down

wraith gulch
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I’d say it’s intentionally ambiguous as to whether they were killed or just incapacitated

civic comet
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the zombies/vessels also fell

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they say when you kill patient zero, all the minions fall too

tender musk
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that could be due to unconsciousness or death i'm assuming

wraith gulch
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I’m personally skeptical the other bishops are dead but also fully allow the possibility of that being the case.

The zombies are already dead-ish.

civic comet
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i mean, if the host isnt alive to control its vessels, then they die too.. right? (even though they are already dead sure)

wraith gulch
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You could make the same argument though for if the host is incapacitated versus dead

civic comet
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i guess thats also the case

dark ermine
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Honestly as much as I like Inferno I think Torchbearer makes more sense

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Also Inferno could still be a song name

blissful jetty
tame tendon
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its some random ass latin word again

civic comet
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we need it 🙏

tame tendon
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i stand with your theory

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that at least sounds like something

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and not NICO EATEN

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i swear if its nico eaten then im never listening to twenty one pilots again

civic comet
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nico eaten too much

tame tendon
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or clancy ate nico

molten sandal
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yeah it sounds pretty

molten sandal
tame tendon
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bruh what

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he just ate him

molten sandal
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cough

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im gonna get my head out of the gutter sorry

tame tendon
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am am am

molten sandal
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crunch bite sound effecr

tame tendon
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clancy rn

molten sandal
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real 😭

tame tendon
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ik they hate nico but eat him? thats a little rough

molten sandal
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that one 'oh shoot i got a fortune cookie!' meme

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but its nico

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getting eaten

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yknow what im gonna animate that im bored as hell lmao

civic comet
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yknow what

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i dont want nico eaten

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what if we try reversing the pattern

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N T E I N

molten sandal
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WAIT theres still hope for inferno

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clancy THE inferno

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!!

shadow cipherBOT
molten sandal
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from someone in stolen potentials comments

molten sandal
tame tendon
lean mango
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But one had no letter

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But I don't think this code is the title

tame tendon
molten sandal
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we have The IN(F?)ErNo

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so thats 4 more letters!!

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5 if the f doesnt count

tame tendon
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no

brazen leaf
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show tonight let’s see what we get

tame tendon
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nothing

brazen leaf
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😭

brazen leaf
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we have numbers on the shirt guys

compact arrow
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And we got a T in Morse code

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GG

compact arrow
graceful hill
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The theory is still alive

compact arrow
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I just got done wit my college semester and now this

graceful hill
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So based

stuck frigate
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Have we decoded it yet?

compact arrow
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Shirt nation has

stuck frigate
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What was it?

compact arrow
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They need a Better angle

olive plume
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we’re still figuring it out

compact arrow
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“Is this really ??”

olive plume
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need a better angle at the right side to confirm the last word

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yeah

stuck frigate
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👁️ 👄 👁️

lean mango
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while this technically fits the keysmash

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I don't think these are song titles

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there's no way they have a song called Is This Really It and one called Do You Feel At Home

tame tendon
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I still think they are, and I’m so happy to say we can finally debunk I’m not home

tame tendon
lean mango
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Tho I'm very curious what Seldom Surface and No Kin are

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I still think they sound like titles

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or

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what if Seldom Surface is the only title and the rest are snippets of lyrics from it

olive plume
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it does rule out “i’m not home” for the i people kept putting there

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if this does follow keysmash tracklist theory

lean mango
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Pet Cheetah wasn't that weird to me but having two different long titles that are questions does

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or to be more accurate

tame tendon
lean mango
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it feels far more likely to be something else than titles in this case, while that doesn't rule them out as titles

flat hawk
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i really wish there was annoucements in shirt announcements such as "there were no numbers today" or smth

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were* pardon my english

lean mango
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it feels like someone (probably the same person) is asking these questions

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I like the theory that these are things Nico says to Clancy during the Paladin moment

tame tendon
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lets go

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freddy fnaf

hot stream
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Does the new number fall under the key mash theory?

karmic lake
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im looking into that right now

olive plume
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uh no

tame tendon
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Not at all sorry

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There are numbers tho

karmic lake
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there is an i

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maybe its not im not home

olive plume
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we’re still trying to identity what the rest of the shirt says but it, so far, reads something like “is this really…”

tame tendon
olive plume
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but, again, no hard confirmation of anything when we’re trying to get better pics of the shirt

karmic lake
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adihgrtnsnd

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thats the keysmash for reference

tame tendon
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there will be no song tilted "is this really" 🫩

lean mango
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there's probably more numbers they couldn't see

grizzled bronze
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wait what?

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is this /j or /srs

lean mango
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but I don't think there will be a song titled "is this really it"

olive plume
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i would love to know where they got their intel because that’s not close at all to anything void

stray kettle
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I was looking at the shirt chat but maybe got linked

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Punked*

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My b

olive plume
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yeah, nobody in the shirt chat was talking about this 😭 so i don’t know what’s going on

lean mango
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oh, might be "is this really me"

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that'd be more interesting imo

stray kettle
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I am crashing out

lean mango
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still doesn't sound much like a song title to me but it's cool

tame tendon
tame tendon
shadow cipherBOT
stray kettle
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A
D
Is this really you?
H
G
R
T
No Kin
Seldom Surface
N
Do you feel at home?

tame tendon
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Yes

stray kettle
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step 1.) form a pattern
step 2.) deviate from pattern and break their spirits
step 3.) return to pattern regardless just to fuck with them

bright tinsel
stray kettle
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I doubt drag paths title would change but I will say if “D” ends up being something other than Drag path I could definitely see Seldom Surface being a renamed version of DP. Seldom surface kind of rhymes with the leaked lyric bits we’ve gotten

quaint steppe
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SO hyped we got another shirt code and so relieved tonight’s shirt code “is this really you” still fits Tyler’s keyboard smash

tame tendon
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If possibly we get shirt codes for every last Clancy tour show that would still leave one spot in the keysmash to be filled

quaint steppe
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Yeah so true, six show’s left and 5/6 letters depending on if you count Graffiti or not (or 4 depending on if you count drag path)

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If Drag Path’s counted as already given to us then that’s six letters remaining for 6 shows

tame tendon
quaint steppe
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Yeah that’s fair enough

tame tendon
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7 letters left and 6 shows

tender musk
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the ones in the digital remains feel like fair game to me until proven otherwise tbh

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like if we get another code starting with G or D, fine

dark ermine
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I still don’t think all of that are song titles

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like

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“is this really etc.” doesn’t feel like a song title to me

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maybe a lyric

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We’ll see if tomorrow we will have new morse code and new word on the shirt

tender musk
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hopefully, the past week of shows has been torturous for keyboard smash truthers

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but today was finally a bit of hope

tame tendon
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We got clearer photos of the last part

dark ermine
molten sandal
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unless youre talking about the DR lyrics

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is this really you kinda sounds like a song title to me

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for some reason it sounds more title-y in my head than 'is this really it'

tame tendon
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I can already feel in my mind that every possible song in adihgrtnsnd will be a 9/10 or above

tender musk
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it will be so interesting to reframe paladin strait not as an ending but as a midpoint

tame tendon
tender musk
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oh yeah for sure

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and paladin strait is a body of water between two places, so it never made full sense as an ending

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both titles seemed too perfect for a midpoint to not be one

cedar yacht
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We really getting a track list huh wow

tame tendon
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It seems like it

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This is not how I thought double album would be rolled out but I’m so here for it

gilded cape
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If they're song titles

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"Is This Really You?" is gonna be one of my faves

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Like wow it sounds hard

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All of these titles sound like the saddest top songs ever

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And they're gonna be all lore heavy
Their shows with Ultimus Capitulus are gonna be insane

blissful jetty
blissful jetty
# cedar yacht We really getting a track list huh wow

a -
d - drag path / devil's eyes
i - is this really you
h -
g - graffiti
r -
t -
n - no kin
s - seldom surface
n -
d - do you feel at home

5 possible songs left
6 shows left, the last of them is special

if 'adihgrtnsnd' is correct, we will be getting 1 code each from tonight until the final show in london on may 14

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the MV for 'ride' was released on may 13, 2015 (the last show before the final in the 'clancy world tour' also on may 13)

'ride' - a LIST Of people

like a list of FPE letters writers names

compact arrow
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Glad I made this thread man

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Y’all are smart asf

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I got CTE from video games

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Patient 0 btw

tall lodge
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Are you being serious

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If so are you okay?

brazen leaf
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next shirt tonight 🔥

tame tendon
blissful jetty
tame tendon
# blissful jetty agreed

And I saw someone in verified say that what if the Morse code message in the FPE letters is one of the possible titles that couldn’t be revealed through the shirts

blissful jetty
subtle token
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im so confused between fpe letters, shirt typos and morse codes

tame tendon
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The only typo was feef and I’m hoping Tyler gives some explanation about that

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But I am so here for the FPE letters, the Morse in the letters, and the shirt numbers

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Everything has been leading to this

subtle token
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from my understanding the shirt codes are making a track list and the fpe codes are making a message ("nico eaten")?

dark ermine
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As much as I like the idea, I'm pretty sure that both the morse code and the codes on the shirts are not about either the tracklist or the name of the album. As well as "We must destroy them etc." will only be important names and phrases in the context of the next project (double album or normal album that is)

blissful jetty
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what if the second word that coded in FPE letters is
tan?

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'tan is a pale tone of brown. the name is derived from tannum (oak bark) used in the tanning of leather'

olive plume
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morse sticks with morse, shirts with shirts, etc.

crimson pike
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hello hi! I'm new in the top fandom (I only listened before, wasn't in the theory and such community) and I'm veerryyy interested in the double album theory
I was wondering how did you guys "found" the maybe new title of the songs?

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I've seen the letters and such on my TL from the exhibitions (I think)

olive plume
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so far the only confirmed phrases we have is just what’s on tyler’s t-shirts

blissful jetty
olive plume
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anything “extra” was taken from phrases in FPE letters and what was found in digital remains

crimson pike
olive plume
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we were given drag path lyrics (inverted) and someone was able to locate a song called graffiti by heavily editing another lyric page until graffiti leaked through

crimson pike
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it's my baby steps in this

gilded cape
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Nine Atgain

olive plume
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so i don’t believe graffiti is anything (so far) due to the leaps someone had to go in order to find it

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also important to note that there’s a space in the morse code so the full code, right now, is N I _ _ / E T N

gilded cape
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I still think the order of the letters won't be the order of the code

olive plume
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why would they give us numbers on the letters then

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the code for the last set of FPE letters was also given to us in order, meaning we didn’t have to unscramble anything

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there’s a possibility it Might be an anagram but it’s definitely going to end up being a phrase when we get all of them

blissful jetty
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and inverted page of this song then

gilded cape
blissful jetty
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and what about this

olive plume
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it’s just an easter egg for the 9 bishops

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there were posters for josh’s dog and debby’s cat there too

blissful jetty
olive plume
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they just made it themselves for the music video

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to avoid copyright/brands

blissful jetty
olive plume
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yes because there’s 9 bishops

tame tendon
blissful jetty
tame tendon
olive plume
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to do tally marks, you have to cross over the 4 to make it 5. there’s nothing else to that

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and we’ve always known them as the 9 bishops. it’s just an easter egg

blissful jetty
quaint steppe
lavish pasture
lean mango
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I don't understand the idea that Drag Path would be scrapped

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(if the double album is real)

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It's the only unreleased song from this era that they've shown

stray kettle
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drag path to me is unconfirmed until a shirt says it or track list is revealed but definitely not counting it out as scraped entirely IMO.

I feel like we were shown it for a reason, AND Clancy uses the terminology drag path in “I am Clancy”

lean mango
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For me it's way more definite than the shirts, it's really the only truly definitive evidence of what a new song could be so far

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Everything else is based on unconfirmed possibilities or assumptions about things that may not even be anything

stray kettle
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yeah that’s totally fair

gilded cape
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I mean, the shirts 100% mean something, why would bro be getting all those shirts?

civic comet
blissful jetty
#

so still 5 left?

civic comet
#

they need like one song with a acronym right

#

or two

gilded cape
#

Why was it feef tho?

civic comet
gilded cape
#

what?

civic comet
#

because the most recent shirt had a thing with b

blissful jetty
civic comet
#

yob/u

hot stream
#

The thing I always think of is whenever they released scaled and icy there were also double album theories spreading like wildfire here and there. However those theories weren’t adding up at all even by the boys theirselves. They did not give any indication about it. So this time around I think it’s definitely something. When are we getting it? Nobody knows but im sure we’re getting something

gilded cape
civic comet
#

Blurryface

gilded cape
#

that's sick

proven harbor
#

It’s definitely you

civic comet
civic comet
lean mango
#

I also don't understand the idea that Drag Path feels like a finale

proven harbor
civic comet
#

ah

civic comet
blissful jetty
lean mango
#

I don't think there's any chance they're ending the entire lore with a song about Clancy being trapped and desperate for help

proven harbor
#

Before it was just off the fact that we couldnt confirm if it was you or yob

civic comet
#

and drag path is what clancy called his "cycle" this time around

proven harbor
#

The letters don’t mean anything

civic comet
#

we dont know that

proven harbor
#

Fair

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But

blissful jetty
proven harbor
#

I think that was the intention of it, it would be very difficult to make a message with the 2/29 pattern and the letters meaning something as well

hot stream
#

But this one feels different

hot stream
#

They’re cooking something

civic comet
#

but at the brink of it

lean mango
#

2nd letter of first line and second, 9th letter of third, repeat

proven harbor
#

2/29

#

February 29

civic comet
lean mango
#

If it's the last song on the album (and if we trust the keymash, it can only be last or second), that is the finale to the whole lore

blissful jetty
#

it really spell PRAEMUNIRE

proven harbor
#

I don’t think it means anything really

#

But I could be wrong

lean mango
#

They're just the ones in the right positions, the letters themselves don't matter

civic comet
blissful jetty
civic comet
#

the letters do sort of matter

#

its not just letters

#

its worldbuilding

civic comet
#

so probably for preordering clancy

#

BUT

#

"Praemunire" actually refers to an old legal term about penalties for obeying foreign authority over one's own.

#

so....

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you tell me

blissful jetty
#

but second R

#

is missing

civic comet
#

theres two r's

#

its all there

blissful jetty
#

not r, P

#

i'm wrong

#

second P

civic comet
#

ah

blissful jetty
civic comet
#

im rearranging and the most common answer im getting is

#

"PERINEPRA."

blissful jetty
civic comet
#

which is renewal

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when was there an M

#

GAH

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hang on.....

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rearranging time

#

PERIPNEUMA

blissful jetty
#

nonsense

civic comet
#

not an english word but a greek root

#

referring to breath or spirit

#

i can feel your breath

blissful jetty
#

PRAEMUNIRE seems legit but where's second P

civic comet
#

i can feel my death

civic comet
blissful jetty
#

knowing tyler....

lean mango
proven harbor
#

It’s not a Caesar cipher

civic comet
#

doh

civic comet
#

and mostly have double letters

blissful jetty
lean mango
proven harbor
civic comet
#

i got PHUXRLHQSHSHD

blissful jetty
#

hm

civic comet
#

i couldnt get like anything that made sense

#

the only good thing i got on the cypher was SKYPRIORPEP

civic comet
#

they all have some sort of code

#

or are there to throw us off

#

the point could be to lead us in the wrong direction

blissful jetty
#

it seems to me that the second P is a mistake by the designer of the letter

#

cause PRAEMUNIRE fits the lore pretty well

civic comet
#

clancy has accidentally mispelled his codes before if im not mistaken

#

you could be right

clever falcon
#

if the "nine towers" theory is true, there's a couple anagrams that could be interesting, like "enter is now"

blissful jetty
#

by the way, the misspelled letters (P, F) seems to spell
FPE?

clever falcon
#

OMG

#

ALSO hear me out

"Is this really you" sounds like Clancy letting power go to his head after defeating the bishops and/or becoming head of Dema

#

and anpther anagram is "resent I won"

blissful jetty
clever falcon
#

I'm going insane lmao

blissful jetty
#

NINE TOWERS
they should have just called the album DEMA

clever falcon
#

so, resent I won AND resent I OWN

blissful jetty
#

capitalized

clever falcon
#

OMG

#

so ideally the cover should have the 9 towers burning, like the clancy remains

blissful jetty
#

or

#

something like that

clever falcon
#

like this

clever falcon
blissful jetty
blissful jetty
clever falcon
#

omG it's so well made :)

blissful jetty
blissful jetty
# blissful jetty something like that

i always thought tyler was inspired by eastern european architecture for the dema housing estate. without those ominous towers, the city would look as ordinary as if it needed to be

civic comet
#

you know i feel like it might not be the towers burning

#

i feel like it will use a darker form of red

#

like bf

clever falcon
#

like the doubt demo cover?

civic comet
#

yeah

#

the dema towers not in flames but rather re-amerging

#

idk how to say it

#

like

#

ashes nd smoke around towers

#

no clancy or tbin sight

#

but maybe the classic 9 bishops symbols at the top

#

but like crossed out

clever falcon
civic comet
#

YEAH

clever falcon
#

ugh it doesn't proccess

#

the other 2

civic comet
#

it look great!!1

clever falcon
#

that's from digital remains

#

these are the other 2

civic comet
#

what if instead of the towrs burning

#

its clancy

#

in dark red crimson like flames

tame tendon
#

yall know whats weird?

#

the fact that nothing has leaked yet

civic comet
#

uh

#

new letter

lean mango
#

Not that unsurprising if it's not promoted to radio/press the same way the first album was

#

Especially since it's being kept secret they probably haven't sent it to anyone who might leak it yet

clever falcon
clever falcon
#

like as a part of it?

tame tendon
tame tendon
civic comet
#

maybe, to show death

clever falcon
tame tendon
#

any physical versions will probably realese later in that case. if the album was a secret then it wasnt send to be made into any physicals

clever falcon
#

that's so cool tho

tame tendon
#

yes

clever falcon
#

the vinyl is gonna be crazy I already know

tame tendon
#

maybe tyler learned from his mistakes

#

or maybe he wasnt sure of the release date?

clever falcon
#

probably both

tame tendon
#

like with clancy being postponed which resulted in physicals leaking on may 17th

#

thats why my theory is that we firsy get only digital, so that they don't worry about the leaks

civic comet
#

wait

#

think about it

#

clancy was made during scaled and icy

tame tendon
#

and overall, they probably wouldn't want to worry about selling new cds and vinyls while still being on tour, thats why theyll do it after tour

civic comet
#

while scaled and icy was being made

#

so the "extra time" they spent making clancy

#

was probably working on another album

clever falcon
clever falcon
#

that could be either clancy or the other album

#

but probably the latter

#

imo

tame tendon
#

remember why sai was released instead of the FOLLOW UP?

clever falcon
#

quarantine?

tame tendon
#

as a lighter album in the dark times of covid

civic comet
#

different direction

clever falcon
#

yeah

civic comet
#

oh

clever falcon
#

but yeah

tame tendon
#

so they already had the album that we're still here to get made before sai

clever falcon
#

yeah

tame tendon
# clever falcon and also lore reasons

not certainly, maybe they wanted to release a final album after trench and skip sai and clancy, releasing a happy album (sai) however made tyler notice a bigger vision of the story and wanted to expand it

clever falcon
#

yeah

#

even SAI had more lore song than clancy

#

they always say SAI was a decoy, but I think the real decoy was clancy

#

the first part anyway

tame tendon
#

not a decoy

civic comet
#

it was propoganda

#

for the bishops

clever falcon
#

well yeah

#

I guess

civic comet
#

good day is ty being in denial

clever falcon
#

LMAO

tame tendon
#

anyways there's definitely 11 more songs coming

#

thats so obvious rn

#

can't believe that there were double album deniers

clever falcon
#

yeah but WHEN cause I'm GOING INSANE

civic comet
#

do we know anything about these yet

tame tendon
#

yes

clever falcon
#

where are these from?

tame tendon
#

these are just music video frames

tame tendon
clever falcon
#

yeah ik but which ones

tame tendon
#

AIGHT

#

whats up with the CODES

#

the LETTER codes

#

we got an N so that gives us what

clever falcon
#

so far we have we have N I - - E - T - N

civic comet
#

nuh uh

#

actually

#

we have

#

NI_N E_T_N

tame tendon
#

we got another n

civic comet
#

so welcome to confusiontown

tame tendon
#

WHAT

clever falcon
#

OH

tame tendon
#

TOLD YA

clever falcon
#

MY GOODNESS

#

WHAT

tame tendon
#

ITS A RANDOM ASS LATIN WORD and not nico being eaten

civic comet
#

wait really

blissful jetty
tame tendon
civic comet
#

wawa

#

i made a theory about that

civic comet
tame tendon
#

so what do we think it is

#

nien?

blissful jetty
#

so we have for now
N I • N E • T• N

#

?

clever falcon
#

Nion

#

IDK

tame tendon
#

onion

#

OH GUYS

civic comet
#

A fitting word could be "Nientide."
It evokes the idea of a rising and falling motion like a tide which resonates with Twenty One Pilots' themes of struggle, persistence, and personal cycles of doubt and hope. The band's storytelling often explores emotional highs and lows, with characters navigating waves of uncertainty before finding purpose. "Nientide" could symbolize that journey a force pulling them forward despite the challenges.

#

found it

tame tendon
blissful jetty
clever falcon
#

AAAAAAA

civic comet
tame tendon
#

it doesnt make sense for the first word to be in order and the other to be rearranged

clever falcon
#

oh ok lol

blissful jetty
#

NINE TEN
910

#

and
what

tame tendon
#

its not nine

clever falcon
#

but it's NI (something) NE

tame tendon
#

id say NIEN sounds like something

blissful jetty
#

it's an anagram

tame tendon
#

no its not

blissful jetty
tame tendon
#

no its not, i was saying this in the beginning of inferno theory too but now it just actually doesnt make sense to number those letter and come up with something random bruh

clever falcon
#

yeah cause the letters are numbered

blissful jetty
#

what for the backwards option?

clever falcon
#

N - T - E - - I N

blissful jetty
#

N • T • E N • I N

tame tendon
#

welcome back trash the dragon

blissful jetty
#

no way chinese

tame tendon
blissful jetty
tame tendon
#

yeah

#

it's "no"

blissful jetty
#

like 'overcompensate' intro

tame tendon
#

what were the other langs in overcompensate

blissful jetty
#

italian

#

french

clever falcon
#

spanish*

tame tendon
#

ill go ask an italian guy then

blissful jetty
clever falcon
#

no it's german french and spanish

#

YEAH

blissful jetty
#

sorry then!!!

tame tendon
#

oh so no italian?

#

alright ill go ask noone then

clever falcon
#

esta pequeña isla espeluznante me ha convertido en un arma

tame tendon
#

u Spanish?

clever falcon
#

ambos creemos que podemos utilizarla para cambiar el impulso de esta guerra

#

yup

tame tendon
#

any words for n_t_e?

clever falcon
#

I don't think so

tame tendon
#

in french its NOTRE

blissful jetty
clever falcon
tame tendon
#

means our

clever falcon
#

like "our something"

#

yeah

tame tendon
#

nein notre? not our?

#

well uh that fits

civic comet
clever falcon
#

HOLD UP

civic comet
#

nein means little saint

#

notre means our

#

OUR LITTLE SAINT

tame tendon
#

our little saint?

clever falcon
#

thay's nien

#

OMG

civic comet
#

nien notre

tame tendon
#

did i actually solve some shit

civic comet
tame tendon
#

well i dont think so but maybe

#

what would our little saint mean? about clancy right?

clever falcon
#

or torchbearer

#

WHAT IF THAT'S THE ALBUM NAME?

warm ledge
#

hiii so we're collectively agreeing that the new morse letter is a N and not a D?

civic comet
#

yeag'

blissful jetty
#

i see one line and two dots
D?

tame tendon
#

ESTEN means to be in spanish? @clever falcon

#

AYO WAIT

civic comet
#

to be a little sait

warm ledge
#

-.. would be D but I'm not sure if that's just the paper

tame tendon
#

EAST IS UP

clever falcon
#

WHAYTTTTTTTT

blissful jetty
tame tendon
#

-.
.

tame tendon
#

*tho

blissful jetty
clever falcon
blissful jetty
#

what if it spells D?

#

NI_D E_T_N

#

nonsense.....

#

NINTENDO

tame tendon
#

""NIED" stands for Negligent Infliction of Emotional Distress"

#

its not D

clever falcon
#

?

tame tendon
#

no 🫩

blissful jetty
tame tendon
#

what

clever falcon
#

t is -

blissful jetty
#

NI_T E_T_N

tame tendon
#

its a 😐 face actually

blissful jetty
shadow cipherBOT
tame tendon
#

| :

tame tendon
blissful jetty
#

my mind is hurt

tame tendon
#

idk man id say the little saint thing works

#

the first one, NIEN

blissful jetty
#

i'm pretty sure it's an anagram

tame tendon
#

no it's not

blissful jetty
#

yes, the letters are in order.
but the final word will be an anagram

#

i feel it

tame tendon
#

no it won't
maybe backwards, but not an anagram

stuck frigate
#

Inferno theory is dead 😔

blissful jetty
tame tendon
#

that just wouldn't make sense

blissful jetty
tame tendon
#

and if they do anagrams, its mostly double meaning

rancid delta
#

Why wouldn't it make sense

tame tendon
#

what, do you think they would give us Niwkahfkskd and anagram that shit?

rancid delta
#

Yes

tame tendon
#

maybe it will work as an anagram, but it will definitely make a word first

#

like neds fireplace, scaled and icy, etc.

blissful jetty
#

it definitely spells NINE

#

and the second word

jaunty hornet
#

I hope for double album

tame tendon
#

why its that so definite

warm ledge
#

when's the last show?

blissful jetty
tame tendon
#

14

#

may 14th

stuck frigate
#

I dont think the morse codes spelling a double album name anymore

tame tendon
rancid delta
blissful jetty
#

NI-N E-T-N

tame tendon
#

we got a word that means little saint in a language included in overcompensate, that's deep af and instead they would go with nine? SUPER boring

blissful jetty
#

NINETEEN? doesn't match

stuck frigate
#

Either double albums gonna start getting shown on the nineteenth or Tyler and josh are getting the nineteen other pilots together

clever falcon
#

IT'S NOT AN ANAGRAM

blissful jetty
#

NINE ---TN
NINE TENET?

tame tendon
#

its not an anagram
its not an anagram
its not an anagram

rancid delta
#

People refused to believe paladin strait and the craving were genuine song titles when they leaked. Just because you don't think something can be real, or think it's something the boys would never do, doesn't mean it's not true

tame tendon
#

EXACTLY

rancid delta
#

We don't have all the pieces

stuck frigate
#

Theres 3 Ns now, right

tame tendon
#

aight my bet on the fact that it may make an anagram but it itself will still be two sense making words

blissful jetty
tame tendon
#

cool

#

but its kinda obvious

#

they usually morse code stuff thats new, nine tenet would mean basically the vialism itself, its nothing new right?

#

whens the next show?

clever falcon
#

tonight

tame tendon
#

but the other one

clever falcon
#

so aria means orchestral piece

tame tendon
#

another morse code

clever falcon
#

you know what else is orchestral?

#

the line

tame tendon
#

when did we get aria?

clever falcon
blissful jetty
#

NINE NIGHT

tame tendon
#

CAVE MELODY

#

THE OUTSIDE

clever falcon
#

that's crazy

tame tendon
#

wait

#

what was that song in the cave

clever falcon
#

the letters mention a cave

tame tendon
#

the vessel snippet

blissful jetty
#

Nine-Night, also known as Dead Yard, is a funerary tradition originating from the Asante people of west Africa and practiced in several Caribbean countries (primarily Jamaica). It is an extended wake that lasts for nine days, with roots from the Akan culture during 9 day period of observing the dead known as Dabɔnɛ(say: dah-boh-neh).[1] During this time, friends and family come together to the home of the deceased. They share their condolences and memories while singing hymns and eating food together.

clever falcon
tame tendon
#

like in the outside

#

when they get in the cave

#

there was a vessel snippet?

#

migraine i think

blissful jetty
#

dead yard sounds sick....

tame tendon
#

THAT WAS THE MIGRAINE

clever falcon
#

SOMETIMES TO STAY ALIVE YOU GOTTA KILL YOUR MIND

#

AND NICO IS TYLER'S MIND

#

SO CLANCY KILLED NICO

tame tendon
#

the outside music video 2:30

tame tendon
#

why are we back to voldsoy tho?

clever falcon
#

idk I'm talking out of my ass rn but it's interesting

tame tendon
#

he mustve been tired after the first swim

lucid steppe
#

6/19/25

clever falcon
#

@civic comet you gotta see this

#

all of this

civic comet
#

whats up

#

oh dear lord

tame tendon
#

also ill say that again

clever falcon
#

SO

#

they reversed the morse code

tame tendon
#

RANDOM ASS LATIN WORDS FOR THE WIN 🔥🔥🔥

civic comet
#

ohhhhhhhh

clever falcon
#

and got ANTRE ARIA

#

which means cave music

civic comet
#

that means cave melody

#

oh

tame tendon
#

IN RANDOM ASS LATIN 🔥

civic comet
#

like the cave we heard about right?

clever falcon
#

YUP

tame tendon
#

cave melody = migraine

civic comet
#

okay thats cool

#

it all wraps back around

#

thats really cool

blissful jetty
tame tendon
#

lmao its not nineteenth anyway

#

we got deeper stuff going on here

lucid steppe
civic comet
#

nineteenth is kinda.. eh..

#

not a fan

clever falcon
civic comet
#

two mentioned

tame tendon
#

17th was a friday, music day

civic comet
#

yeah you can only release albums on fridays/weekends

#

(stupid decision)

blissful jetty
#

it's an anagram.....

tame tendon
#

i mean no you can release it anytime

#

but fridays are the fridays

civic comet
tame tendon
#

also i think that if there was something coming we should consider domingo en fuego, SUNDAY

blissful jetty
clever falcon
#

THE fridays

tame tendon
#

MIGRAINE

clever falcon
#

OMG

lucid steppe
clever falcon
#

but didn't he leak it himself?

lucid steppe
#

yes

clever falcon
#

so?

civic comet
#

this is funny

tame tendon
#

"..its the weather or THE LETTERS BY MY BED" MIGRAINE MIGRAINE MIGRAINE

#

the show letters

lucid steppe
#

so tyler tweeted it was gonna be released 5-19 but then it got released early at 5/17 it doesn't matter if it was intentional or not, I was just saying that it was released two days earlier than what it was supposed to be. That's why I thought maybe the word was 19th

civic comet
#

oh

lucid steppe
#

But I'm probably wrong about the 19th. That's just what it looks like to me.

tame tendon
#

wait i was wrong

#

17th may 2015 was a domingo en fuego

#

19th wouldnt even come close then

#

and again like i said the next album will probably release on SUNDAY

blissful jetty
civic comet
civic comet
blissful jetty
#

i think it's NINE with the second word

tame tendon
#

no it's not 🫩

#

because

blissful jetty
tame tendon
#

that's also boring

blissful jetty
tame tendon
#

what

#

nine is so obvious rn

blissful jetty
tame tendon
#

that's why it's a super bland and boring

tame tendon
#

time to drop the scheme

blissful jetty
#

what

tame tendon
#

well huh im only saying its boring but i if course dont deny the possibility of it being it

#

THOUGH ill be secretly very mad at tyler

blissful jetty
#

WEEE NEED TO FIGURE IT OUT

tame tendon
#

so when is the next show

blissful jetty
#

tonight

tame tendon
#

BRUHhhhh

#

the other one

blissful jetty
#

may 8

tame tendon
#

Thursday?

#

so we ll find out then

#

the next letter will be for the second word definitely tho

blissful jetty
#

G
my bet

#

and yours?

tame tendon
#

im not betting on the next one but we're definitely getting an E

blissful jetty
#

we'll see

tame tendon
#

also i love this

#

nien - little saint, esten - well, duh EAST IS UP?

civic comet
#

east is up, little saint.

#

lmao

tame tendon
#

i read this too fast as "east is up, little shit"🫩

#

what if esten is the new name of dema?

#

the eastern town

blissful jetty
#

NIGHT 9
maybe a hint to something

formal belfry
#

I just thought about this, but what if what we’re looking at are actually a follow up of morse code numbers, and not letters ?

#

Which would supposedly unveil a code ?

clever falcon
#

what would they be in order? I'm too lazy to compile them

formal belfry
#

I’m trying to see that… first one I’m thinking of is maybe leaning toward a first 6 (compilation of #1,#2, and maybe #3 )

#

Ok maybe not… only combination I found might be 6X but… idk

#

Also, on some letters, some names are signed with “-“, and some are not. Should we look into that and consider it as maybe part of the morse code ?

blissful jetty
#

we need to try every available option

formal belfry
#

Okay

#

For now all I found was this, does it help seeing things from another point of view ? Idk

tame tendon
#

this is dope

quaint steppe
# formal belfry

I actually back the number theory now you’ve suggested it (date for the double album perchance?). Though the space might cast some doubt into that, unless it was to distinguish double digits from single

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If it is words, any Polish fans here? Nien means no in Polish so idk if any polish words could fit the second word?

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6 would also make sense for a date as that would be the month in american date convention (like 6 25)

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That’s what I’m thinking too yeah

tame tendon
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nien meaning no in polish is such a huge stretch

quaint steppe
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tame tendon
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the word is probably nien but it means "little saint"

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True… we may be coping butttt idk I feel like we have sort of an answer that we haven’t really been talking about

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Also, a few days ago (i think ?) Josh posted a story or something with his runner watch, do we know if there was any numbers to look into ?

tame tendon
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yes

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the time of the run

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nothing else

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1:22:06

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Idk I feel like the big thing will be numbers, and not just letters. Like a code we can enter on dmaorg at the end of the Europe Tour, or yeah maybe the next single or album date

tame tendon
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22th june, a possible release date, its a domingo en fuego (Sunday), they might've retconned the date from 25 to 22 to be a sunday

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