Double Album Confirmed

[tepid thunder]

tyler leading us on as usual

AARRRGG HE KNOWS WHAT HES DOING

hes so frustrating

[lean mango]

But I will say, I hope they go the SAI route and deconfirm a double album soon if it's not happening

[tepid thunder]

he said the fanbase gives him most of the ideas so maybe we gave him the idea to do one in the first place which is why he hasnt debunked it for ages

and is just working on a shorter ep type thing

but 75% likely not

true plus new fpe letters every show

lore keeps coming

[lean mango]

An early theory was that he got the idea for a double album because of double album theories in the SAI era

would not be surprised if right then and there he just thought "well, we didn't do that this time, but that'd be a nice climactic way to end the story"

if it's real, I doubt it's a coincidence

[left kite]

I don't think this is necessarily true, this is their finale, their big magnum opus closer of over 10 years of story building, I wouldn't say anything is too big for that.

[tepid thunder]

off topic but honestly what if for the 10th anniversary blurryface he just drops a deluxe version of vessel with the rab songs

would be hype

[brazen leaf]

its happening

and no one can convince us otherwise

[lean mango]

Tyler can

[brazen leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1239822735899623477/1358888634610356444/image0.gif

[left kite]

That's what they did for vessel 10th anniversary

[tepid thunder]

bro im stupid i meant blurryface

[left kite]

It was missing 3 rab songs tho (iirc)

[lean mango]

I want this but I don't foresee it happening for Blurryface

ah I see

less likely IMO, since the songs are from two different eras and he evolved a lot as an artist between

[tepid thunder]

or just gives the fans what they want and releases rab officially

[lean mango]

that'd be my preference

[tepid thunder]

seeing as he dropped the doubt demo just because fans wanted it

[lean mango]

or a Vessel edition

[tepid thunder]

hes in a giving mood recently

[lean mango]

but I'm sure they would if they could, they just don't have the rights to release those songs

[left kite]

I don't think that's ever happening. He's said before that he never will. A remaster is a possibility tho

[lean mango]

maybe they'll work something out eventually

[tepid thunder]

have you seen the thing about tyler starting his own music label?

maybe their contract with fuled by ramen runs out soon and top will be signed to that

and then they can do what they want

[lean mango]

But usually music rights stay with the label much longer than a contract for releases and promo

They might have to buy back the rights, or wait for them to expire if they even will anytime soon

[tepid thunder]

didnt they release rab before they signed?

"release"

[lean mango]

Yes, and it wasn't a label release then, however, part of the FBR deal was signing away the rights to all of RAB

[tepid thunder]

ig because some of the songs are on vessel its half owned by fueled by ramen

[left kite]

https://youtu.be/qf_4O1x1kvY?si=-lMP2g0MT_DIRq9M

[lean mango]

Originally the plan was just to release RAB via the label, but Tyler wanted to make a new album with some of the same songs

[lean mango]

It fully is

[tepid thunder]

:( but the missing songs are good too tyler

[lean mango]

They originally signed the entire album to FBR, but he just decided not all of them would go on their first label album

Agreed, some of my favs

[tepid thunder]

just wanna add them to my playlsit bro

u think they might do another live experience for blurryface 10th?

like the SAI one

i think theyll switch it up at least from the vessel one

[lean mango]

I'd love a stream like the Vessel one, but something different could be cool too

[tepid thunder]

yeah im happy with anything but i liked how they reimagined songs from sai on the live experience

would be cool if they did that with blurryface 10th idk

could tie into lore too

[high sundial]

i just wouldn't say he's necessarily in a "giving mood". releasing the doubt demo was a good move money wise 🤷

[brazen leaf]

eh

[lean mango]

My absolute dream for BF10 is a version of Blurryface produced by Paul

[brazen leaf]

oh my god

that would be

heavenly

blurryface remastered

[tepid thunder]

yeah true but still people clealry were asking for it too

[tame tendon]

Oh man that would be the best thing ever, god knows Blurryface needs improvement on its production

[lean mango]

I think it's decent but I just like the post-Blurryface production style better personally

[tepid thunder]

blurryface songs in the style of trench

[lean mango]

wasn't a big fan of the distortion on all the vocals and the really loud masters, tho they fit the aesthetic IMO

[cedar yacht]

Clancy

😄

[tepid thunder]

nah trench better

cancel me for that if u want i dont care

[tame tendon]

Ok I’ll cancel you

[tepid thunder]

im so sad they removed oldies station

[gilded cape]

Same

Double Albums is real, but I'm just worried I'm getting too excited for nothing

Even though he literally said "not nothing"

Graaaaa idk this man is too cryptic

[rancid delta]

He obviously knows that we know

I feel like if it WASN'T real he probably would've said so by now

[brazen leaf]

paul meany is so good man

the things he did on trench

were amazing

and even clancy

[tame tendon]

More like especially Clancy, he is back at it with everything, overcompensate next semester vignette ATROFD and Paladin are so well produced

The others too

[lean mango]

Clancy is my fav TOP production ever

Trench works super well as a concept w/ music that really sounds like it fits the space, but I just love every song on Clancy

[sudden hawk]

WE ARE SO BACK, CHAT

[lucid steppe]

i dont think hed hint at "not nothing" if it was just the clancy live release, so i has to be more, i personally think the key smash tweet tyler did is a track list and its 11 songs long and its going to the OPPOSITE of sai and end the story, as told through the eyes of torchbearer

[tame tendon]

The way I see it, Trench’s production was super atmospheric, but Clancy’s production straight up slapped so hard with every song

[lean mango]

agreed

[wraith gulch]

Today is a great day 😊

[rancid delta]

It's a good day

[gilded cape]

what do you mean by the opposite of sai?

[lucid steppe]

sai was written by clancy for the bishops propaganda, so maybe this won't be propaganda and written by clancy for clancy and all who want to escape dema

[gilded cape]

oh hell yeah

[wraith gulch]

Took me a bit to find this thread I think after it was created but I talked about double album back in Feb 2024 🤯 obviously still not confirmed but let’s just say…after today’s interview the vibes are feeling really good.

[brazen leaf]

i remember the night that digital remains came out

thats when i became a double album truther

we had that figma page and it was insane

everyone was piecing it together and we finally found the ultimate chapter wording

[winged sapphire]

we got paladin mv after that

[winged sapphire]

whats the lottery numbers

[wraith gulch]

6 25 25

[winged sapphire]

thank u

[wraith gulch]

Np gl

[tepid thunder]

OH YEAH "clancy ultimus capitulus" is still a thing that hasnt been resolved

has to mean something

[dark ermine]

Not yet, the only think I think it’s 100% real is new music in general

[modern atlas]

wait when did the deconfirm for SAI

[lean mango]

soon before the LOC ARG

[patent coral]

That was Trench era tho

[lilac breach]

My prediction is May 25

No proof, no doubt

[shell kite]

They called us crazy

[pearl halo]

♥️ crazy people is the best kind of people

[brazen leaf]

june 25th i think

some announcement or teaser either at the final show

or during the blurryface 10 anniversary event

[fair dirge]

I've seen an interesting reel

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIw-BkmNxY5/?igsh=MXdpcTZoZDVsZWViMw==

softestbandito

will twenty one pilots be releasing another project soon? let’s talk about it!

as soon as Tyler tweeted that damn acronym (adihgrtnsnd) the first day of Clancy era…we knew it would mean something. looks like it’s only now that the puzzle pieces are starting to fall into place! what do you think?

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[brazen leaf]

yesss

so excited

it’s definitely happening at this point and no one can convince me otherwise tbh

[dark ermine]

I’m still just not sure about a second entire album, but more music? 100%

[lime carbon]

Let’s not forget the 6/25

Don’t remember whether anything happened on this date last year tho

[shell kite]

on 6/25? nope 😭

[brazen leaf]

6/25 could’ve been 2025

6th month = june

[wide jolt]

I'm thinking 13 June it's a Friday which is a common release day and we've seen so much teasing of the number 13

I think the 25 refers to 2025 and 25 tracks from Clancy plus the line plus ultimate chapter

Not necessarily the 25th

[shadow cipher]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 1!

[brazen leaf]

yes

definitely

[dark ermine]

I also believe that 6/25 means "June 2025", it makes more sense since the date has been teased since last year

[lean mango]

I like the idea that it could be both, and the total number of tracks

[cloud lynx]

WERE SO BACK

also, "routines of the guards"... routines in the night

[cloud lynx]

do u still think the next part might put TB more in the front? instead of the background

[wraith gulch]

I think anything is possible at this point honestly. I truly don’t care so much about who is right or whatever, I just enjoy the process of theorizing and looking at different possibilities and fresh angles, which they certainly encourage by being intentionally vague even in their hints.

[lean mango]

if the shirts are song titles, we now have "do you feel at home"

and if the keysmash is track initials, this is probably the end

[wide jolt]

I will die you cannot end a story with do you feel at home

[tame tendon]

Idk it would be the most beautiful thing ever if at the end of it Tyler asks “do you feel at home?” And then quietly says “yes”

[sly hazel]

Didn't we get the "At Home" from somewhere else before too????

[lean mango]

"I'm not home"

[tame tendon]

Well people are still talking about that one yes

[sly hazel]

Ohh yes

[left kite]

a - ?
d - Drag Path
i - I'm not Home
h - ?
g - Graffiti
r- Raw Fear
t- Triumph
n- (letter #001 Morse code) No Kin?
s- Seldom Surface
n- (new letter 4/17 Morse code) No Kin?
d- Do You Feel at Home

[modern atlas]

wait what if drag path is the end?

That would make more sense imo

[lean mango]

No it wouldn't, Drag Path is a song about Clancy being trapped and desperate for help

No way they're ending the entire lore on that note

[tame tendon]

I honestly think we’ll have to wait for a shirt to say drag path in numbers to even consider that it’ll be on double album

[lean mango]

Wym

I don't think there's any reason to assume they wouldn't be

[modern atlas]

yeah that is another thing i considered as well

[modern atlas]

why do you think that? aren’t there only like 2 lines of the song?

[lean mango]

it'd defeat the whole purpose if they revealed it to us in the DR as a hint for a second album and then it's not even included

[left kite]

I really don't think it is, we have the Drag Path lyrics and I'd be surprised if #1 that's how they end it, and #2 they revealed the ending a year ago.

"Do You Feel At Home?" Feels much more like a closer to the entire story, like asking after all of that, did we finally make it?

[lean mango]

no, we have the full lyrics

[tame tendon]

It could’ve just been an actual scrapped song

[lean mango]

That just doesn't really add up IMO

it's too on the nose for that

[modern atlas]

where

[lean mango]

Digital Remains

[modern atlas]

the lyrics kind of sound like a closer but i don’t necessarily think it ends the lore

[lean mango]

I don't see it, I don't get closer vibes from those lyrics at all

[hot stream]

I wonder if they'll be changing the logo if they were to be releasing the new album

or the colors

[raven lagoon]

Purple era?

[hot stream]

One could only wish

[wide jolt]

Manifesting orange

[brazen leaf]

OUR THEORY CONTINUES TO LIVE

[lucid steppe]

YES IT DOES

"DOYOUFEELATHOME"

[dark ermine]

Soooo “do you feel at home?” do you think it’s “I’m not home”?

Maybe a reworked title?

[lean mango]

I think it's different

[tame tendon]

Yeah me too

[weak thorn]

More likely to be a lyric.

[lean mango]

I disagree

[tame tendon]

Me too

[lean mango]

and I don't think we can say that lyric or title is more likely

[weak thorn]

Ah.

[lean mango]

we just don't have enough evidence yet

[tame tendon]

And technically most titles are said in the song so it’s a lyric too

[dark ermine]

I don’t think they would use such similar names for two different songs, but who knows

[lean mango]

They kind of have opposite meanings

but I'm not convinced I'm Not Home is still a song for Clancy era

[dark ermine]

If these are lyrics then we don’t have a real clue about the keyboard smash theory

[left kite]

Backslide and Snap Back

Both about backsliding

[lean mango]

unlike Drag Path and Graffiti which were directly teased this era, that was pre-Clancy and potentially not even an intentional teaser

Yea, also that

[tame tendon]

Me either

[dark ermine]

Good point

[left kite]

It was an intentional teaser, they question this is if it was a misdirection or actually teasing something

[weak thorn]

That makes sense.

[dark ermine]

Cyan 100%
There were clues about that at the beginning of this era and was first mentioned in the Blurryface era.
Also, more important, the reverse color of this era is cyan.

[lean mango]

Yea, gotta be imo

tho I'd love purple

[dark ermine]

Same

[gilded cape]

do you feel at home oh holy shit

I'M NOT HOME

[modern atlas]

I'm wondering if all of the things we've been getting are actually song titles or HINTS to other song titles. Because "No kin", "Seldom Surface", and "Do you feel at home" all feel more like crossword hints more than song titles 🤣

[lean mango]

They feel like titles to me

[wraith gulch]

Same

[lean mango]

remember, TOP titles always sound a bit different from album to album

[gilded cape]

Seldom Surface is the most song title thing ever

[lean mango]

to the degree that people often think they sound fake at first

[timber pasture]

all of these codes and clues are leading up to twenty one pilots announcing their next big collab with the new york times crossword

[gilded cape]

Yeah the song is either called I'm Not Home or Do You Feel At Home and he changed it

[lean mango]

I don't think they're the same thing

[gilded cape]

Either way it matches the keyboard smash

Oh, that could also be true

[lean mango]

I think it's a coincidence that they're similar and just use one of the same words, it has happened before

[gilded cape]

We're so getting that double album

[gilded cape]

Also what Tyler said in the interview yesterday that Clancy is the first time he felt okay repeating similar messages

So yeah that could be a possibility

[lean mango]

I think I'm Not Home and Do You Feel At Home imply very different meanings even if the names seem similar on the surface

I'm Not Home seems to imply some kind of disconnection from surroundings, or discomfort with where he's at

Do You Feel At Home feels more like an introspective question about the places and people we identify with

[gilded cape]

True

Do y'all think that's the closer? Or Drag Path?

[lean mango]

Def Do You Feel At Home

[tame tendon]

I think do you feel at home will close it

Without question

[lean mango]

Drag Path lyrics are about being trapped and desperate

[gilded cape]

Yeah it makes sense if we also have an I'm Not Home

[lean mango]

That'd be a fun connection

[gilded cape]

Like a direct message to The Clique and in the lore context to the citizens of Dema

[lean mango]

tho I mentioned above, I'm Not Home could just be scrapped or not a Clancy-era thing

[tame tendon]

Yeah if I’m not home is a real thing

[lean mango]

This is what I envision

An overall message of finding peace and comfort in your support system

[gilded cape]

I can't contain my hype man, I need that Ultimus Capitulus like I need oxygen

[lean mango]

Realizing it's ok to still struggle sometimes

Sameeee

[gilded cape]

Yeah

I love how much Oldies Station talks about that

[lean mango]

Yea, and Tyler has said that's how he sees his mental health struggles now

It'd make sense for the lore to end on that note

[modern atlas]

Here is a screenshot of the context of "I'm not Home"

based on the fact that it is in the same folder as every other file that Tyler was showing during stream, I would think that it is supposed to be something that he wanted to show during the vessel stream and never got the chance

[livid pine]

has there been a shirt with a potential song title on it every night since they started? because there’s definitely a lot more than 11 shows since then. just wondering what that could mean

[wraith gulch]

No

[livid pine]

okay thank you

[wraith gulch]

Sorry didn’t mean to be that abrupt. You can kind of quickly glance at the shirts stuff on the IG: https://www.instagram.com/topshirtnation?igsh=bmlvemQ5eGtsMnBy

[livid pine]

no it’s okay! was just looking for clarification and you gave it. appreciate it🙏

and thanks for the instagram i haven’t seen that yet

[wraith gulch]

Of course!

[cloud lynx]

if those are songs they're kinda like Backslide and Snapback in a way

[cloud lynx]

https://fxtwitter.com/TOPUPDATERS/status/1915494569052872811

TØP Updates (@TOPUPDATERS)

Another angle of Tyler pausing before putting on the jacket.
︀︀#ClancyLyon

Quoting TØP Updates (@TOPUPDATERS)
︀
Before Navigating when Josh (Torchbearer) walks out and gives Tyler (Clancy) his jacket, Tyler paused when handed the jacket, looked around the stadium/crowd first, then put it on and followed Josh to the stage.
︀︀#ClancyLyon

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we're so cooked

[weak thorn]

wait whar

[high sundial]

why? he didn't pause in barcelona

[dark ermine]

More important https://www.instagram.com/p/DI2MpRuMXz0/?igsh=aXp3ajY3M2pwZDB1

[timber pasture]

oh shit…

[stuck frigate]

Whats gonna happen man

This double album, considering its only 11 songs

Its aboutta go HARD

[livid pine]

they mention “the navigating scream.” is there any footage of that going around rn?

[brazen leaf]

idk how ppl can rlly determine whether these are lyrics or titles.. they could be either and there’s no definitive way to work it out

yeah they could sound like a lyric but we don’t know

[stuck frigate]

Im wondering the same thing

[cloud lynx]

that's probably just venue rules or some kind of non-lore related reason

already happened before, i believe

[dark ermine]

I was thinking…how they’re gonna manage the promotion of this album? I mean, if we get the second part of Clancy in May or June, when they’re gonna release the singles? Maybe it’s gonna be a shadow drop without any single? (I doubt)

[tame tendon]

Fuck promotion it’s not like FBR is gonna do any

[weak thorn]

If you think about it, this is the promotion, we might even get to hear an unreleased song at the last show.

[graceful hill]

this is the last leg

[dark ermine]

Only up to a certain point, I agree that the FBR does not advertise them as in the past but not releasing any single seems exaggerated to me

[dark ermine]

You mean at the last show in London?

[tame tendon]

You mean last show?

[weak thorn]

Yeah

[cloud lynx]

i agree tbh

this is totally them already teasing the next thing™️

building up the hype

and at the last show something's gonna happen

[weak thorn]

Considering we got a small snippet of unreleased footage

[cloud lynx]

that one shirt image?

[cloud lynx]

ohh

[shadow cipher]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 22!

[cloud lynx]

it was just that?

i thought it was also in a shirt

mb if i remembered it wrong

[cloud lynx]

but yeah it's definitely smth we haven't seen before

[weak thorn]

ALSO

[karmic flicker]

What is this I'm not home file they speak of? Sorry I'm on vacation and trying to keep up with the class but my bf doesnt wanna hear about it lol

[karmic lake]

This is the im not home context

[burnt bough]

they putting a double album together cause u guys brought it up

[outer lynx]

Lmfao

[molten sandal]

basically in the vessel stream when they were playing demos and stuff there was a wav file titled im not home

and the other files were vessel songs

[dark ermine]

Does someone have the interview when Tyler said he had two albums after Trench?

[burnt bough]

i have it in my brain

[dark ermine]

Nvm, found it https://www.kerrang.com/amp/tyler-joseph-says-there-are-two-very-different-records-that-twenty-one-pilots-could-make-next

[burnt bough]

thanks

||no double album guys sorry||

[modern atlas]

keep in mind that SAI wasn’t planned til covid happened

[burnt bough]

u got me

[tame tendon]

It kind of was tho. Tyler said he did intend to write an album about isolation even before Covid happened

[burnt bough]

let them dream dont do that

[modern atlas]

SAI is a lot more than isolation though, for example the fact that he worked on all the tracks alone

Which I doubt he had planned during trench - that was more of a result of the pandemic

[dusty kiln]

sai was not planned originally

[dark ermine]

Man we need this guy back…

[rancid delta]

Glad you brought him up, should definitely keep a watch out

[cedar yacht]

Never forget altguy

[molten sandal]

21 pilots erghhhhh

[willow narwhal]

Alt guy where r u 🥲

[cloud lynx]

come back alt guy

we need u

🙏

[dark ermine]

what? https://x.com/yohancarro/status/1916057378203570336?s=46

yøhan (@yohancarro) on X

On the notepad with the handwritten lyrics of Jumpsuit at the FPE in Lyon, the lyrics of a song called "Envelope" could be seen on the previous page:

"Take this envelope, can you take it down to the post?"

(my photo)
#ClancyLyon

X · Apr 26, 2025, 9:10 AM

[rancid gust]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-vanish-the-last-airbender-needed-the-most-gif-14966971

[modern atlas]

No e in the keyboard smash though…

[dark ermine]

I'm starting to think that the keyboard smash is just a red hearring or it concerns something else and not the tracklist of the double album...

[brazen leaf]

so far its lining up well

[dark ermine]

Could be, but “I’m not home” and “Do you FEEF at home” in the same tracklist? Very weird

[molten sandal]

maybe they changed the original name? used to be im not home and changed it to do you feel at home

and the i stands for another song

sorry feef not feel lol

[stuck frigate]

I do feel like ‘im not home’ is the actual name of the track

Maybe Tylers shirt is meant to be a nod towards that song

Im guessing if they put ‘I’m not home’ on there, itd basically confirm double album theory too early

[bright tinsel]

Damn, I really like “crawl
my way” and “smash my face”. Both interesting twists on the lyrics we know.

[lean mango]

I don't believe Envelope or I'm Not Home are relevant here

He tends to not release songs in previous eras that he didn't finish or wasn't happy enough about to include on the album

Envelope would've been written 8+ years ago, I can't imagine he'd still want to include it on a current album now

As for I'm Not Home, it was also pre-Clancy era and that just seems like a really weird place to tease a new song, especially when it didn't turn out to be on Clancy. People have theorized that it's something he wanted to show in the livestream and didn't get a chance. Or, maybe he did and we just don't know what it was

[brazen leaf]

feef we havent worked out yet

but idk how thats weird

[dark ermine]

I just think that there aren’t two “home” tracks, it’s just one with a different name: “I’m not home” is now “do you feel at home”

maybe “feef” has something to do with the “deef” pic in the Digital Remains?

[brazen leaf]

yeah could be intentional, connected tracks

similar to snap back + backslide

both cover similar if not identical themes

[molten sandal]

wait can i be caught up on the deef pic thing pleases

[molten sandal]

interesting

thanks

maybe its like, feed or something

[lean mango]

deef was a coincidence and not them, it's just stuff they have up in that studio regardless of TOP

[tough timber]

yep if you zoom in you can see the letters around the top here

[dark ermine]

Guys…we won? https://youtu.be/21t6fDTO5aQ?si=NaC9sIPXQPaXHBN9

[tame tendon]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this could easily refer to the live album or even some Blurryface tenth anniversary stuff, and I just got to the part where it’s said in the video

Of course I really want this to mean double album is fr but I just don’t know about this

[livid pine]

unfortunately DEEF was proven to just be something printed on the walls of wherever the picture was taken. highly unlikely it was lore related

people were scrambling over it as a clue when the digital remains dropped only to find out it had nothing to do with figuring out the CUC25 puzzle😭

very funny word though

[livid pine]

i totally agree it could be just that. idk how well versed the twitter account is in the potential double album theories or anything but on a delusional very wishful thinking note, it was in reply to someone literally asking about the double album. so that could be a good sign at the very least!

[lean mango]

I doubt it would refer to the live album, that most likely wouldn't be promoted the same way as a single or studio album so it wouldn't go through the same avenues where leakers tend to get info

It could possibly be a 10th anniversary edition of Blurryface but I don't know, I really don't expect them to do a deluxe for that

[storm fable]

I mean considering vessel deluxe was just a vinyl release, and not on streaming, i could see the same being true for blurryface

[lean mango]

And if it's not a deluxe (maybe an alternate version or something), that's also not very likely to be promoted the typical way

Most of the time leakers get info through radio station promo stuff or press which is generally singles with radio potential, or an album

Though, if it's press, it really could be anything

what did they even mean by "twenty one pilots = atlantic?"

[burnt bough]

im sorry but this video has almost an information

[dark ermine]

I know, I know and you’re right. But let’s be serious guys: we are now at the climax of the Clancy Era. If at the end of the tour and during the anniversary of Blurryface this double album won’t be released... I will surrender to the idea that the real ending will really be in the next album. The deadline is in June, otherwise I will personally consider this theory dead.

[stuck frigate]

Fueled by ramen is owned by atlantic

[tame tendon]

Like cause FBR is a sub label of Atlantic

[dark ermine]

Oh that’s a bummer 😦

[lean mango]

IDK if that's the intended reading of that

[burnt bough]

we all know they are releasing something soon, and we all know is not the double album at least not yet

[lean mango]

"of course something is coming soon" implies that the first statement makes this obvious somehow

[lean mango]

wym, we don't know anything about what's happening

tour ends in less than a month

[burnt bough]

edited

[lean mango]

Yea, I still don't know why you're saying "we all know" like it's obvious

Most double album theorists speculate June for it which would mean promo is likely already starting

[burnt bough]

there is at least 2 things that can be released before a possible double album

as @tame tendon mentioned

[dark ermine]

As I said some days ago…new music? 100%
Double album? Still not sure
When? Eh, I think between May and June, otherwise it’s gonna be just another album.

[lean mango]

We don't know for sure that one of them even exists, the other could be either before or after

Honestly I think if the double album is real, the live album won't be released until after they get a chance to record a second part of it for the other half

[tame tendon]

The one thing that we for sure know is coming at some point is the live album

[burnt bough]

yep

[lean mango]

• Based on Blurryface, the live album can take a really long time to come out

[tame tendon]

I’d give it a year at most

[dark ermine]

I was thinking the same thing. Makes sense to have a live album when all of Clancy is released.

[burnt bough]

i mean they def not gonna just slept on bf anniversary cmon guy is the like their biggest album

[lean mango]

Of course, but there are many ways they could celebrate that that aren't a deluxe

Special performances, livestreams, new merch, etc.

[burnt bough]

with a double album?

so yea

there u go

u know something is coming up and is not the double album

[tame tendon]

If they cared enough to do a livestream and special vinyl release for Vessel they’re definitely gonna do more for Blurryface

[lean mango]

No lol, we don't know that, again, you're making assumptions that I just don't agree with

[lean mango]

Yes, but that doesn't guarantee a deluxe

[tame tendon]

It guarantees something tho

[lean mango]

Sure, but that's beside the point

obviously we know they'll celebrate it somehow

that doesn't mean they won't release new music too after that

[burnt bough]

so ure saying is more likely to have a only theorized album coming up than those other 2 options?

[lean mango]

Well, you're missing a major point here, which is that they've intentionally announced nothing after this tour. They've spent an entire year hyping up the ending to the lore

All of it pointing to something happening soon after tour ends

[burnt bough]

they will end it in a high note for sure but there are things they have to do still

[lean mango]

They're not going to wait much longer to resolve that

[burnt bough]

if u say so

[lean mango]

Especially if a second tour leg announcement hinges on them breaking that silence

Bro, why are you even here if you just want to shut down other people's ideas? This is not the place

[burnt bough]

im not

im bias tho sorry

ill leave

i like to bother u guys maybe u guys know something that i dont

im still a double album doubter tho

and i was a shirts doubter before

[weak thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-discouraged-disapproval-meme-no-gif-7658949102274138083

[burnt bough]

at least u have a sense of humor

g n guys

[lean mango]

well anyway, what I was going to say is, Tyler's new record label is called ARRO

[tame tendon]

Could you keep conversation on topic

[lean mango]

and IDK what ARRO stands for, but it's potentially a subsidiary of Atlandic (AR in ARRO = Atlantic Records?)

Maybe the whole emphasis about them being with Atlantic isn't about FBR at all, but transitioning to his own sub-label, and whatever comes with that

[tame tendon]

This is exactly what I’ve been thinking about, like the only thing we know is coming up right after the tour ends is the Blurryface tenth anniversary, maybe they could take that opportunity to announce what’s really gonna happen

[lean mango]

So here's the thing

This tweet doesn't sound like much on its own

but when combined with what someone said here:

Obviously IDK if they're reliable at all

[tame tendon]

Wait what does TBA stand for

[rancid delta]

To be announced

[lean mango]

Basically the implication is that there is a big slot in Atlantic's release schedule where they have something planned, but they haven't confirmed what

And this user implies that they know more, but can't say

which sounds like they're subtly saying it's connected to TOP, because if it wasn't, they'd probably just say no

[stuck frigate]

UH OH

[lean mango]

Now, a TBA like that on a label schedule is almost always a full album release cycle, not something like a promo event or live album (with some exceptions, if they expect the promo or live thing to be absolutely huge they might block something out in the schedule for it like that... but that's typically in the cases where it's big enough to get its own release cycle on its own)

[stuck frigate]

Thats pretty hype

[molten sandal]

so hyped

[lean mango]

A TBA could mean there will be an entire actual cycle for this, not just an album but full alternate era branding and tour

Tho there's no guarantee

But this is interesting, I'll be looking out for any more info

[stuck frigate]

Im still conflicted on if the key mash is a red herring or not

[molten sandal]

same

[stuck frigate]

It was matching up well for a while but then we got the 'envelope' thing

[molten sandal]

but then why would tyler post it at all

its not a proper keysmash either

[stuck frigate]

To screw with us ig? 😔

Kinda cruel

[molten sandal]

i guess

yeah

tyler when i catch you tyler 😠

[lean mango]

honestly, there's probably not going to be any strong evidence either way til we get a tracklisting and it fits, or the shirts continue to fit enough to clearly not be a coincidence, or nothing fits it til all possibilities just kinda fade away and we forget about it

[tame tendon]

Oh shit

[molten sandal]

[dark ermine]

Ok, this is huge

[bright tinsel]

I agree with you, I don't think Envelope is going to become anything important in the future. I'm Not Home has a slightly better shot, especially because of its connection to the recent shirt and the fact that Tyler knows our fascination with this one - he intentionally showed it on stream - but I won't be holding my breath. That said...your claim is technically untrue. Old songs have made it onto new albums. I'm just going to play devil's advocate here. /lh

• The greater half of Vessel (2013) is a re-imagining and remaster of Regional At Best (2011), which came out almost two years after the original release, and brought an old era into a new one.
• Goner was released in 2012, a year before Vessel came out, and later was remastered and ended up being the final track on Blurryface in 2015 - over 3 years later. This is a noteworthy bridge between eras right here. Goner is also alleged to have been included on No Phun Intended (2007), but I've never seen it solidly proven, so I'll doubt it for now.
• Car Radio was originally written in 2010 (source: https://www.reddit.com/r/twentyonepilots/comments/p20x46/first_draft_car_radio_lyrics_handwritten_by_tyler/) but made its way not just to RAB, but onto Vessel.
• Trees was written in at least 2009 according to Tyler, but could possibly be even older (source: https://www.reddit.com/r/twentyonepilots/comments/10myp5w/comment/j66oe5y/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button).
• Multiple verses from No Phun Intended (2007) were reused on Self-Titled (2009), and some even made their way to Vessel (Just Like Yesterday / Ode To Sleep). That's 6 years of lyrical travelling right there !
• Levitate has a verse that references Car Radio: "I got back what I once bought back in that slot I won't need to replace."

[brazen leaf]

there’s a chance we don’t see the live album for a long time anyway

like end of the year

these things take so long to mix and stuff

blurryface live was recorded in october 2015 and didn’t get released until november 2016

#verified-theorists message

this is interesting

definitely hinting towards smth

[cloud lynx]

im gonna be the devil's advocate's devil's advocate by saying that a song simply referencing another (released) song isn't the same thing than reusing old lyrics or recycling old songs

otherwise i don't disagree w/ u

[tame tendon]

He did not intentionally show it on the stream, he was showing us demos and whatever that was probably went on to be a scrapped song

[wide jolt]

Tyler is smarter than that but it's most likely he just showed a song that wasn't released just to mess with everyone

[bright tinsel]

He did intentionally show it. All of the files in that folder were specifically for the stream.

[bright tinsel]

I put that point last because it was the weakest link, but it’s still interesting because usually songs across albums don’t reference each other with TØP.

[karmic lake]

Yes in the corner of his screen he had a folder called “Desktop*” like he put his actual desktop in there and just showed us files from the stream, except I’m not home.wav

[dark ermine]

Soo, no morse code on the new letter. Since there are few shows left and it is not guaranteed that all the letters have a morse code, it must be a very short word that contains the letter "N". Nico?

In the letters we will have the name of the album and in the t-shirts names of the tracks. It would make full sense to me.

[lean mango]

We have 2 Ns though

this could be a space

in which case the first word is 4 letters, and second is 4-5

(most likely 5)

"Nico Niner"

(this is a joke, but the theory isn't)

[modern atlas]

what if he was going to show something but didn’t have enough time thoigh

[lean mango]

That's my opinion ^

[karmic lake]

He might have wanted to show I’m not home, but it’s weird because .wav is an audio file (higher quality version of .mp3) and the others are Logic Pro sessions. We also have intro to baking and we’re probably never gonna know what that was lol

[dark ermine]

Oh then forget what I just said lol

Two Ns uh? No idea then

Any clue about the numbers (8325) we used to unlock the PS MV teaser back in June of the last year? We still haven’t figured out what it could be

[molten sandal]

i feel like its a date or something

august 3rd 2025

maybe somethings gonna happen that date

since it came from the mv teaser maybe theres gonna be another mv released in august?

[lean mango]

Pretty sure this was coincidence and the numbers are meaningless. The puzzle was thrown together pretty quickly when we were trying to search the Digital Remains for something and I think they just took two random parts that happened to fit together (since many others also did)

[molten sandal]

oh maybe its when the possible concert movie thing releases

although i dont think theyd plan that far ahead and set a specific date

[lean mango]

Pretty sure it's confirmed not to be a movie, I might be misremembering though

[modern atlas]

Not afaik, but it was never confirmed either

[olive plume]

iirc mark said they couldn’t film the cbus shows where they were recording the live album, but they definitely filmed something in mexico

[stray kettle]

Absolutely love this theory

[mental granite]

“Not Nothing”👀😂

[gilded cape]

Bruh imagine😭😭

[brazen leaf]

ok so

11 shows left

how many tracks do we have filled so far (supposedly)

[tepid thunder]

im going to the last show of the tour im wondering if smth will get announced or teased during it?

[brazen leaf]

probably

99.9% chance

[tepid thunder]

imagine they just start playing new songs

[compact arrow]

I like this idea but do we know when these letters are taking place?

[brazen leaf]

anything is possible

[compact arrow]

Pre-paladin or post-paladin?

[tepid thunder]

some look to be during paladin

talking about the seige and clancy finding a way in

[brazen leaf]

yh

[tepid thunder]

the letters could be teasing that the songs on the double album (if it happens) are from the perspective of the letter writers

[lean mango]

3, 5 if we count Drag Path and Graffiti, but if the shirt codes are song titles those will likely appear again

That's 8 more codes in 11 shows which I think is possible, we just got 2 in a row

[brazen leaf]

definitely

we wont get a code every night tho

[tepid thunder]

tyler should make a clothing brand if he likes designing t shirts this much

the really abstract t-shirt images brand

[karmic pumice]

The feef thing is triggering me

[molten sandal]

itd be funny if the next shirts gonna code for 'my bad its l not f'

[karmic pumice]

´New twenty one pilots album « Mental Typo » is out!’

[tepid thunder]

u guys remember the theories about when tyler wore a purple butterfly a couple years ago?

[molten sandal]

i got a flashback to katy perry

so unoriginal

copied tyler joseph /j

[verbal fox]

idk if this is relevant but my dad is friends with Andrew Donoho who did the music video for saturday, and i heard he’s working on directing something for them called “arrival”? i’m not sure if that’s the actual name but it was “ar” for sure

[karmic pumice]

No seriously i feel this f means something but at the same time it could just be Tyler making fun of us

[brazen leaf]

hyh

huh

[molten sandal]

😮

[karmic pumice]

Oh

Start with an a

We don’t have the track starting with a

=-=

[molten sandal]

i thought we did

[olive plume]

if that were true, i don’t think andrew would let something like that slip

[tepid thunder]

codename "arrival" maybe?

or just a lore type video maybe

[brazen leaf]

i highly doubt he;d tell anyone

would be breaking a few contracts i imagine

[tepid thunder]

or maybe those letters tyler tweeted and said were nothing are literally nothing and he was just having fun with making us crash out over it

[wide jolt]

Huhhh

[bright tinsel]

Yep, it was deliberate.

[dark ermine]

Quiet day without any code uh?

[grizzled bronze]

isn’t arro the name of tyler’s new record label

[wraith gulch]

Yeah

[weak thorn]

Are you able to back up your claims at all?

Because right now this sounds like "My buddy's step-father works at Nintendo".

Ah, sounds like I'm echoing someones message, sorry #verified-theorists.

[dark ermine]

I don’t believe this without any proof tbh

[cloud lynx]

i thought about that lmao imagine they play Paladin Strait and just after they play a new song

tw tour spoiler ||instead of going into Jumpsuit they stay into the present and begin the next chapter, or they play Jumpsuit and instead of playing Midwest Indigo after it, they start playing the new song||

and immediately after the show they release an MV

[dreamy sage]

god this would be so awesome

[dark ermine]

Two months, two month at the most and we’ll see if things like these are gonna be reality.

[blissful jetty]

i think there will be no 'trees' at the last show. right after 'hello clancy' part they will play a longer snippet, wrap up the show and release an MV for this new song that night

[blissful jetty]

it looks really good. but please, it could hurt someone psychologically

[karmic pumice]

FEEF

[cloud lynx]

feef

[cloud lynx]

i think there will be feef

[blissful jetty]

a black shirt with the cyan 'clancy' on it for the last show 🤔

[cloud lynx]

honestly i wouldn't even be surprised

[karmic pumice]

HOT TAKE the Cover will be in 3D anaglyph because there will be cyan and red and you have to put glasses to see the image clearly

EDIT: it was a joke but actually it’s not totally stupid

[blissful jetty]

my bet for song-list

A - ARRIVAL
D - DRAG PATH | DEVIL'S EYES
I - I'M NOT HOME | INFERNO
H - HILT | -
G - GRAFFITI
R - RAW FEAR | WARFARE
T - TRIUMPH | TORCHBEARER | -
N - NO KIN
S - SELDOM SURFACE
N - NICO | NICOLAS BOURBAKI
D - DO YOU FEEL AT HOME | DEMA | -

and we'll probably get another code tonight

[brazen leaf]

where's arrival come from

i wouldnt believe what that person said lol

there's no chance the director would tell some random perosn about it

thats breaching contract and he wouldnt risk his relationship with TOP or whoever

[outer lynx]

There’s no way they would cut trees from the setlist right

[dark ermine]

agree

[blissful jetty]

who knows..

[cloud lynx]

already happened several times... but always at very short festival shows

but like, this era is already... a little out of the ordinary

[outer lynx]

Really ok thanks, didn’t know that

I just thought cause trees is kind of a staple in their live shows, so I didn’t think it was something they’d cut

But idk man

[cloud lynx]

it's quite rare, they usually do it when they rly don't have a lot of time

[brazen leaf]

they can cut anything

we've learned that now

[cloud lynx]

including the NHL half time show, in which they ended with Stressed Out

ooooh the Jingle Ball festival shows too, they also ended with that song

[blissful jetty]

and so, are we sure the codes from the shirts mean a song titles and the letters from fpe mean an album title?

[wraith gulch]

We aren’t sure at all

But so far the shirt codes have not contradicted the key smash so we’ll see. They could also be lyric snippets, etc.

[left kite]

This is a really interesting idea!!

[dark ermine]

Found on the subreddit, seems a good name to me. Also it was theorized as one of the possible names for Clancy, before it was announced.

[left kite]

Clancy: 🔥Inferno🔥

[lean mango]

It'd be so funny if a second album turns out to be called Inferno

I still think it's 2 words with a space after the 4th letter personally

[olive plume]

clancy’s inferno

[lean mango]

Also the first n is from the first letter, right? So more likely to be the first letter of a word

[timber pasture]

i’m REALLY hoping this is the album name, it goes so fucking hard

[blissful jetty]

dante's inferno
9 circles of hell

[stuck frigate]

I do think its just gonna be called 'INFERNO'

[tribal raptor]

I really think "I'm not home" wasn't a track but a message. Tyler meant "as you watch this, I'm currently not home".

[stuck frigate]

Maybe

[tribal raptor]

Maybe you're a good person to ask - at one point I came across a spreadsheet of estimates for when each TOP song was written, but then somehow I lost it again. Have you ever seen it and know what I'm referring to?

[compact arrow]

That Clancy, do you feel at home is some of the hardest shit I’ve seen in a minute

If that or something like that is a reality I’ll genuinely be mind blown

Either way I am confident in saying that we are getting a second album

Or part

To Clancy

All these letters

And the shirts

I mean it screams LOC ARG

[lean mango]

Tbf LOC ARG was famously not more music to the point that they confirmed on Twitter that it wouldn't be

(not counting the demos on the flash drive)

[compact arrow]

Yeah I like to forget about that ARG

I guess a better one is the dema.org shit before trench came out

Either way they are not putting in all this stuff for something small

[dark ermine]

What did I miss?

[ember girder]

anything about this?

[dark ermine]

Yeah people said that he/she seems pretty reliable

[dusty kiln]

grain of salt. likely fake

[modern atlas]

yes but we can be almost certain that this is talking about the Live Album

[dark ermine]

Could be, yeah

[wide jolt]

possibly fake

[lean mango]

This person is very reliable in my experience

They've been predicting stuff for years

though they err on the side of being more vague since they're established and don't want to have any issues

[wide jolt]

I fully believe them but it's nothing new we knew new music was coming

[graceful hill]

Gives me "let's go home clancy my child" energy

[compact arrow]

Yeah I saw a vid on this acc

Got absolutely nuked for leaking TS’s Reputation track list

So

They got 1 big boom from me

https://tenor.com/view/big-aj-big-justice-boom-costco-guys-gif-13543695932005238540

[livid pine]

a lot of people saying it’s fake or not about new music but it’s from a reputable leaker + is replying directly to a tweet that is talking about brand new material. grain of salt, obviously, but i’d say it’s more hopeful than a lot of other info we have so far outside of stuff directly from the band

[cedar yacht]

@blissful jetty don't scare like that wtf mann

[hot stream]

I know this is fan made but where is this from? Is there a full image?

goes hard

[blissful jetty]

i did it yesterday

[hot stream]

Incredible job man

[blissful jetty]

thank you

[brazen leaf]

thats so cool

[lean mango]

btw one theory is that The Line is the transitional song, so it'd go at track 14 on Clancy

and then the second half would have 11 songs for 25 total

[blissful jetty]

i like it

[blissful jetty]

thanks

[molten sandal]

i yapped about this one under one of jlandersons vids

i gotta post it here its pretty cool

[tame tendon]

Yeah this is at least what I always hoped. Like the day the line was announced I only thought that this title is too perfect to not be the literal line between the 2 parts of Clancy

[stray kettle]

My ultimate theory on what’s going to happen (and I know this isn’t a unique one) we continue the charade with the shirt codes and letter codes. Final show. We’re still missing a shirt code. The judge happens. No code in the shirt. We are still missing the a at the beginning of the key smash. People begin to panic. Later in the show during Paladin, as usual it shows the music video segment of Nico coming in to smear Clancy. But the video continues. New song (the missing a title) at the end of the song screen changes to announce new album name and date

I cannot imagine a more hype scenario and I really think they could do it that way assuming things don’t leak earlier

[tame tendon]

This idea would definitely have me going insane and it sounds like smth that could possibly happen

[wide jolt]

Before the line was released the tour bus was missing the line in the logo

[blissful jetty]

easy. tyler walks on stage in a red robe with half of his face covered in black paint. he's lit up by cyan spotlights. he raises his hands in the air - snippet from the end of the 'paladin strait' MV starts, then abruptly cuts off. spotlights also go out, the show ends

[olive plume]

i can’t see them ending the show early like that

it’s a neat idea but they’d have to push it closer to the end of the show. you can’t really have a pilots show without trees in some way

[brazen leaf]

u can tbh

anything is possible

also i dont agree that the line is a transitional song in the lore.. the song is its own thing imo

[stuck frigate]

Considering there wasn't any real Tyler screams on clancy, imagine whats gonna be in store on inferno

[dark ermine]

Another clue about the double album: TØP ALWAYS performed every song of their album live at least once.
For now, we haven’t seen At the Risk of Feeling Dumb and Snap Back in the entire Clancy Tour.
To me, this is another confirmation of at least another tour.

[crisp palm]

we haven't seen No Chances, Formidable, or Bounce Man performed live which could be because of the "propaganda" piece of the lore.

or just because more recently they don't feel the need to play every song on their album (since there are so many to choose from and so little time)

i'm not sure, but it's something to think about in relation to your theory

[dark ermine]

They performed all of these songs

[karmic lake]

Actually no chances was the second song on the setlist basically the entire era, Formidable was in the campfire set, and they played bounce man in the campfire set once in Mexico /nm

[crisp palm]

oh, sorry i couldn't find them on my quick search
i didn't follow the shows that era (couldn't get to one, so why embrace the pain)

[karmic lake]

that’s perfectly alright!

https://youtu.be/Z_lYRhQKW7Q?si=2KdLFh66NS7SrBck

https://youtu.be/agsyWm2ni6M?si=bkNF3ysmbwZ0utVs

https://youtu.be/XZ4UWX70Z7o?si=JWWjtI7SRLiyrIyD

If you wanted to watch them performed

[lean mango]

They could perform the others in one-off shows maybe if they do ones like An Evening With TOP again

But there's one huge piece of evidence that I can't believe I haven't seen brought up recently...

[karmic lake]

What is that? /lh

[lean mango]

Remember the interview with the lighting director where he said they have 10-12 more songs timecoded and ready to swap into the setlist?

One was probably The Line, but Doubt Demo wouldn't have been one because he didn't know he'd be releasing it back then

And the theory (especially from doubters) at the time was that they would swap songs in for different sections of the tour, but they didn't

And 10-12 songs is way too many to have ready just in case

[tame tendon]

i imagine it the way that the second part of the album could start with nico saying those words, so that it is "hello clancy, do you feel at home?"

like continuation from paladin

[lean mango]

That's 9-11 songs not accounted for, and if we assume 2 are ATROFD and Snap Back, that's still up to 9 left

[brazen leaf]

yep

definitely loads more prepared

[tame tendon]

if double album exists then theyre definitely playing a song or two from it on the last show

[lean mango]

(also he said 10-12 in addition to the 32 in the setlist so far, which was the number even with Slowtown)

[brazen leaf]

possibly

[tame tendon]

sigh people on the last show about to experience historical moment

[quaint steppe]

*Feef (lol)

[quaint steppe]

I live in the UK and I had to go to an earlier show because I didn’t know about Uni exams 😭 Ah well, gonna be fire nonetheless

[tame tendon]

that sucks a little but still have a good time on the show!

i myself wasn't able to be on any because i couldn't afford it

i have hopes that maybe if theyre gonna take a longer break and release the double album theyll visit my country but they will probably just do an US leg so..

[lean mango]

Alsooo just realized that the inverted shirts are in the last part of the tour (also 2nd part of the FPE)

And Drag Path is inverted

[shadow cipher]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 30!

[dark ermine]

True, could be

[dark ermine]

Exactly. Also, iirc, at the beginning of the Clancy Tour back in August wasn’t posted somewhere a backstage pic with the hazmat guys from Lane Boy?

[lean mango]

yea, I believe so

[karmic lake]

oh yeah i forgot about that, it is odd that they had so many songs programmed. Also that fact that was with old song medley, slowtown, fake you out, and oldies

theyve taken all those out but only added the line in and doubt demo is completely new

i have experienced them changing the setlist between tour legs and theres probably valid reasons for removing those songs but i did find it odd they removed songs from the setlist but only a few got replaced with anything /nm

[cloud lynx]

10-12 seems like a lot

my mind is exploding, what the heck are they up to

[karmic lake]

idk but with all the stuff happening and Tyler confirming after the tour “it’s not nothing” I’m so excited

[karmic flicker]

I'll have to rewatch, that was a fun interview! Ty!!!

[karmic flicker]

I always say feef in my head lol

[wraith gulch]

The fact that we are getting more lore about other bishops (Nills in FPE letter) this “late” in the game to me is another indicator that a double album is very possible. Most of the bishops we know very little about, why start giving depth to one now…unless this will continue (EP/double album). Otherwise if there was only one or two more songs that feels weird to me.

Obviously this isn’t a “clear piece of evidence” but just another piece of the puzzle in the double album potential.

[dark ermine]

So you want to tell me that they will do two consecutive shows in the same place? I'm almost 100% sure that the theory that we'll have a twist after Paladin Strait in the second show is true then. Instead of replicating the identical setlist in two days, in the second show we will have towards the end the resolution of the cliffhanger on the big screen with the live debut of a new song.

[cloud lynx]

also London is an important place for the band

for example, they've debuted Jumpsuit, NATN and My Blood in London (A Complete Diversion)

it was also one of the places for the An Evening With TOP shows
they've done other stuff there as well, iirc

and now they end the Clancy Tour with two consecutive shows in London

[olive plume]

i don’t necessarily think they’ll do anything too crazy just because they’re playing the same venue twice in a row. they performed at nationwide for 3 days in a row and they recorded the live album across that weekend and also did the RITN video, but the concert experience was generally the same (song wise)

[cloud lynx]

they recorded the live album across that weekend and also did the RITN video
wait wdym

they did not record the live album at the same time as the RITN video?

they only recorded for the live album in Mexico, no?

[olive plume]

they’ve performed the live debut of the craving at one of the small shows too so they have set a precedent that they Can do stuff without doing it at other shows but a live debut of a song is much different from showing off a music video and going into a totally different setlist? i dunno. we’ll see

no… they recorded the live album in cbus. they filmed the show in mexico. two different things

we’re getting a live album and then a concert film

[cloud lynx]

oooh

maybe i misunderstood then

my bad

thx for the info

[olive plume]

mark said they couldn’t film the cbus shows because they only rented the cameras to do the RITN video

or something to that effect

[dark ermine]

Yep, also The Craving was performed for the first time in London before Clancy came out

[dark ermine]

Well the live debut of the song is the same thing here.
Maybe they won’t show the MV but a sneak peek could happen

[granite seal]

this is so sick

[lean mango]

No number day again

Not looking great for the numbers as track titles theory

They barely have time anymore to reveal the rest if it's that

[stray kettle]

We still have enough shows for the theory to work, but it’s definitely looking worse each show without

[lean mango]

And skipping 3 nights is weird

[stray kettle]

Maybe its to throw us off

[lean mango]

I hope so lol

[tame tendon]

Well after this show there’s 9 shows left, and 8 letters left in adihgrtnsnd

[tame tendon]

Well there were 6 nights of tour before seldom surface was revealed

[lean mango]

Yea, but it's weird because no kin and do you feef at home were back to back, and this would force every other night to have numbers except one

[tame tendon]

That’d kinda be a cool strategy, like if tomorrow night also has no numbers, then they could do numbers in Paris, and that’s right before they head over to England for the final stretch of shows

[lean mango]

Yea, maybe

[tame tendon]

If every show in the final stretch had a number shirt that’d be kinda cool

[lean mango]

I just think since the most common spacing is 3 nights off at least, it's not that likely to do so many in a row

But we will see

[patent coral]

It’s also possible they’re not doing tracks we already have clues to like Drag Path and Graffiti

Or that Raw Fear and Triumph are track names too. A combo of letter, DR, and shirts to fill out the track list

[cedar yacht]

Theory
If there's a double album then maybe they are hinting at the cover art featuring a dog:) so many dogs on shirts mannn

[lean mango]

It's possible

[dark ermine]

Yeah agree

As long it’s lore that concerns double album, I’m still hyped

[tame tendon]

well maybe theyd only reveal just three songs

[lean mango]

Seems unlikely to me

First of all it would be weird to start the numbers in the middle and just stop

Second, being able to have enough evidence to match them to the keysmash with any kind of certainty is how we're even theorizing what they are in the first place

[tame tendon]

is it still enough letters = shows?

[lean mango]

Yes

But barely

They can skip one more day (3 if they skip Drag Path and Graffiti)

[tame tendon]

so that would mean that if they want to keep going with the numbers, then next show NEEDS to have numbers

[tame tendon]

the last day

[lean mango]

I think we'll see at least like 6 shirts with numbers over the rest of the tour

[tame tendon]

if we dont then we are cooked

[lean mango]

Ye

Maybe not for the double album theory in general, but for these being a tracklist, possibly

[tame tendon]

theres a show tommorow right? well if there's no numbers the possibility of it being the tracklist goes down A LOT

[lean mango]

Yes, show tomorrow and Friday

[tame tendon]

yeah and still its the pilots, maybe they actually would only reveal 3 song names

what if these 3 are just the first singles?

but do you feel at home doesn't sound like a single kind of song

[lean mango]

I just find it doubtful because it would make it very hard to confirm what they are

So it wouldn't actually tell us any certain info until they confirm it some other way

Also Do You Feel At Home would have to be the last song

[tame tendon]

definitely

[lean mango]

Most likely wouldn't be a single since it would be the one closing things out

[tame tendon]

i already said that but do you feel at home sounds like it is what nico says following the end of paladin

like "hello clancy, do you feel at home?"

[lean mango]

Yea, def could be

[tame tendon]

what if its 10 songs about the inner thoughts of clancy in that moment, his past, all his fails and successes

and the last one is the answer to nico?

and it starts with the continuation of that sentence from paladin

thats a huge stretch but yeah

[lean mango]

That'd be very cool

[tame tendon]

also do we think that double album = another 11 music videos?

like not all lore but like in clancy

[lean mango]

Quite possibly imo

[tame tendon]

and one of them, the big one, the continuation of paladin strait mv

[lean mango]

Probably at least 3-4 lore vids

[tame tendon]

also i had quite a theory about the double album as if it was something clancy wrote while being kept and forced to write SAI, "like a song he wrote that's never heard", but was kept by bishops

[mortal adder]

Hi.. Has the Inferno theory from Instagram with the Morse code been discussed here yet?

[tame tendon]

no idea but i think not

[tame tendon]

hm thats cool

personally i got some doubts about anything being named inferno, after the clncy rollout theories, but that is definitely something

oh besides the feef thing of course.

guys tyler can make typos too 💀

[lean mango]

Inferno doesn't make much sense because it would require the numbered letters to be out of order which kind of defeats the purpose of them being numbered

[mortal adder]

It looks pretty legit but it could be anything from a track title to an album title, but it's pretty solid to me.

[lean mango]

It just doesn't fit with what we have right now which is
NI__/____N

[tame tendon]

cant it be anagrammed?

lmaoo 😭

inferno = niner FO

alright but isnt the fact itself that inferno has niner something important?

[cloud lynx]

imo they could make a few MVs like with Clancy, as visuals for the songs, but reserve placeholders for certain songs (maybe like Paladin Strait), and do it more like they've done it with other eras, aka dropping lore MVs over time between/during the legs

[cloud lynx]

oooor the placeholders could also be smaller scale non-lore MVs (by non-lore i mean that does not continue the story directly)

[tame tendon]

Well if they dodge numbers tomorrow then that is the last day they can dodge it if they’re doing adihgrtnsnd

[bright tinsel]

Hot(?) take: If the double album is real, a shirt hinting at Drag Path would be crucial. Because it would solidify our goal here. If that makes sense.

[lean mango]

That, or enough phrases matching the keysmash to show with almost certainty that it's real

[bright tinsel]

Bingo.

It would be funny if the keysmash and double album weren’t originally connected, and Tyler just changed track names to match it because of our delusions.

[tame tendon]

okay but will all that shit ending in the middle of may would it even make sense to drop it on 6/25

that's too early

[lean mango]

Feels like the perfect time to me

[tame tendon]

somewhat yes and somewhat no

[lean mango]

Double albums don't always have the same months of lead up and promo that the first album does, especially if they're both in the same cycle

It gives a month of break after Blurryface anniversary for things with that to quiet down a bit

[tame tendon]

i hope that tyler saw gnx and thought that albums dropped quickly work out too lmao

but theyre used to long rollouts so

[gilded cape]

The shirts all kinda have clear messages to Heavydirtysoul but I just believe they refer to the double album 100%, he wouldn't be doing this shit of having different shirts every show if it wasn't refering to something

[tame tendon]

another ridiculous thing,

live album, blurryface 10th anniversary

and double album?

this feels unreal

[gilded cape]

Like 100% double album as they tell their story through music and we have a cliffhanger

This is so exciting

[lean mango]

Blurryface 10th anniversary could take any form pretty much so it may not have much overlap. Could be a small series of special shows and a livestream or something

[lucid steppe]

what's the current key smash idea at?

[lean mango]

Now my theory about the live album is, if the double album is real, maybe they'll wait to tour the second album and record nights from that too so the live album is also a double

[tame tendon]

blurryface 10th anniversary vinyl with at least doubt demo is 90% definitely happening

[tame tendon]

oh that sounds cool

but i believe live album will be all the songs from the setlist played on the certain night of the tour and not the songs from the album but played live

[lean mango]

A
D - Drag Path
I
H
G - Graffiti
R
T
N - No Kin
S - Seldom Surface
N
D - Do You Feel At Home

[lucid steppe]

wait there was a bunch of possible ones earlier 😦 what happened

[gilded cape]

Where did Raw Fear come from?

[left kite]

A letter

[lucid steppe]

||judge video ||

[left kite]

They just weren't super reliable so we decided to start keeping them off the list

[lucid steppe]

ah okay

[lean mango]

Yes, but they could do 2 nights with somewhat different setlists

[left kite]

Still a possibility tho

[tame tendon]

those are the 3 shirt codes, drag path and a placeholder name for a song that included graffiti in it

[lean mango]

One being most Clancy songs, the other having songs from the other half

The others are dubious at best

Probably not a placeholder name, the majority of the song titles end up being final

[tame tendon]

wait was graffiti a name of it?

[lean mango]

Yes

[tame tendon]

i thought it was just a lyric

[lean mango]

No, it's the title listed

[tame tendon]

ohh

alright nvm that makes more sense now

i think that raw fear could do too

[lean mango]

I don't think Raw Fear is a title because there were a few other phrases overlayed during The Judge

Just felt like another one of those to me

Could be wrong tho

[tame tendon]

hm, so if raw fear is just a random phrase displayed by them-

what if the shirt codes are too 😭😭😭😭

[lean mango]

But I think if he's intentionally revealing song titles, he'll most likely reveal them all the same way so we can be sure what they are

It's possible, but The Judge phrases (including Raw Fear) come from the letters, while the phrases on the shirts don't come from anything we've seen yet

[tame tendon]

forgot about the letter thing, nvm again

[leaden anchor]

i saw something flash on the screen tonight during the bird part of paladin strait, do we know what that is?

[tame tendon]

no i dont think anyone spoke about it

[leaden anchor]

i didn't film but ill try to find a video of it

there was also a square flashing in red/green/blue

hmmm

[dusty kiln]

probably technical issue

[karmic lake]

Yeah I saw it though livestream and it looked like a technical issue

[lunar cargo]

I dont think its a technical issue, they did the same thing in amsterdam an hour ago

Like a little square flashing red green blue

[dark ermine]

How do we know it’s two words?

[lean mango]

5 had no letter implying a space

[dark ermine]

Mmh fair enough

[karmic lake]

i believe thats what we're talking about /nm

[tame tendon]

okay so this just doesn't make sense

we could bet the first word is nine, whatever it is, the second wouldn't make sense

or at least not give us any clues about the lore; just being random

if this combination would somehow be lore then im pretty sure we would have guessed it by now

[shadow cipher]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 1!

[tame tendon]

oh wow

it might be so that only a few letters have morse code and that they're not in the correct order; ends up spelling inferno after all, that probably makes the most sense

[dark ermine]

Nine shows left, we know that they love to use that number even in the live shows (first Blurryface tweet this era was during the 9th show of the Clancy Tour). I hope we get something big from now on, or at least tonight.

[lean mango]

There are a lot of theories on what it could be

"nine again," "nine risen," etc.

[brazen leaf]

today being the day of the tour only having nine shows left definitely means something should happen tbh

[dark ermine]

agree

YO?

[stray kettle]

big fan of “hey that’s literally MM/DD/YY format”

would be cool if they slowly reveal a date for something 👀

like a double album

[tame tendon]

oh fuck oh fuck

its happening

[tame tendon]

whatever itd be

its nothing that tell us such a big message as US tour letters

if it spelt inferno? holy shit double album theory confirmed 🤯

but "nine again" for example would be an another thing with no meaning to us at this point

[stray kettle]

nine again would indicate a ninth bishop (Clancy)

Now as I’ve said previously I think Clancy would take the opportunity to destroy the system internally and wouldn’t be evil ofc

But “nine again” is actually a brutal message to receive given the cliffhanger and the fact the banditos haven’t received a signal back from Clancy

[brazen leaf]

woah

that’s definitely intentional lol

right i’m locking in tonight

i’ve got a feeling smths happening

[dark ermine]

“E” in the morse code of the last letter!

[brazen leaf]

Yess

[dark ermine]

I hope for “Inferno”

[distant beacon]

Inferno already doesn’t work tho

[wide jolt]

The missing letter might not be a space 🤷‍♂️

[distant beacon]

Which missing letter the last letter at the end of the phrase is N

[wide jolt]

I meant the letter without a morse code letter and we don't know for sure they are ordered but it's likely

It would be cool if the letter spelled out for nine and then the album title was inferno like scaled and icy and Clancy is dead but it's a huge reach with what we have now

[dark ermine]

Exactly

[wide jolt]

Dan twins

[dark ermine]

real

[hot stream]

Actually, Inferno would be a contradictory album to Scaled and Icy. If “No Kin” were one of the song titles on the potential album, it would directly contradict Shy Away. Shy Away encourages Tyler’s brother to embrace identity and connection, whereas No Kin seems to cut those ties completely, choosing isolation instead.

Also releasing an album called Inferno would definitely work, it would reveal the true colors of Dema, unlike Scaled and Icy, where everything felt completely saturated and fake.

[tame tendon]

that kinda gives the idea that the double album is what clancy WROTE about dema while being forced to write propaganda, SAI

when he was kept, he wrote sai for the government and wrote his own thoughts about the city in the album that would be the second part of clancy now

"like a song he wrote thats never heard" shy away

saying this for like 50th time, remember this for if the album drops

[tame tendon]

plus the letters might not be in the correct order

PLUS there could be more missing codes on letters

so we'll only end up with inferno

[dark ermine]

I thought the same thing, just because there are numbers on the letters doesn’t mean it’s the correct order

[wide jolt]

What would be the point of the numbers then though

[tame tendon]

no point maybe? just aesthetical choice, because US letters had those too

[dark ermine]

Good point lol

[tame tendon]

not everything has to have a point guys, especially "feef"

[dark ermine]

I mean the numbers on that letters were used to get the correct order of the phrase “We must destroy them” etc.

[wide jolt]

I'm an inferno truther

[blissful jetty]

what name would clancy get then? because all the bishop's names are lines from 'blurryface' songs

[tame tendon]

keons

[tame tendon]

could also be a line from stressed out

because blurryface isnt directly in stressed out

[gilded cape]

I'm craving new music so much😭

[tame tendon]

id be crying if they only do blurryface 10th anniversary thing

i hope that it is not what they will announce on the last show

GUYS

what happened with the door theory

[blissful jetty]

nico is an exception too
'blurryface' - he call's himself

[tame tendon]

okay so all the bishops got their normal names, not nicknames, just lisden, keons, sacarver etc.

and nico is his name and blurryface is a somewhat nickname

so clancy

clancy would just be called clancy right?

[quaint steppe]

Guys calling it now, if Inferno is in fact Part Two’s name, then either Inferno or “Clancy’s Inferno” (if that’s what they make the combined one” will have the Digital Remains image of DEMA burning as its cover image

[tame tendon]

keons song is heavydirtysoul (the one that is shown the most recently), would Clancy replace him?

[tame tendon]

nahh

the cover will definitely surprise us

wouldn't be something what we have already seen

[quaint steppe]

I imagine Clancy would replace Keons. That or he’ll be a different song titles (maybe a line in next semester)

[dreamy sage]

honestly? i hope not bc how do you top the Digital Remains pic....

[bright tinsel]

They'll probably put a dog on it, lol.

[stray kettle]

I’m here for it

[tame tendon]

at this point they could put a freddy fazbear on it and some random numbers and call it feef

id listen anyways

and even that cover would be fine to me after some time, like clancy cover became

[molten sandal]

whats wrong w the clancy cover

[tame tendon]

nothing!

its just that that it seemed out of place when it was first shown

[molten sandal]

ahh

i see

[tame tendon]

right now it's crazy good tbh

[molten sandal]

real !!

[tame tendon]

but listening party exclusive edition cd did better

shouldve been the og cover

like oh god

so blurryface coded

[molten sandal]

damn

that looks sick

[cloud lynx]

e, this does not match the keysmash

[karmic lake]

I think it’s the shirts that are matching the keysmash the letter Morse code is what might be revealing the album name /nm

[cloud lynx]

we currently have: n n i e

eh, it does correspond to "inferno" (for now)

[karmic lake]

Yup that’s what I was about to say

[cloud lynx]

fair

[tame tendon]

they're just trying to say "no" (in polish) to the double album truthers lmao

[karmic flicker]

I always feef at home tho

[tame tendon]

tyler out there cannot even take a breath

y'all theorizing on every typo he makes 😭

[stuck frigate]

I think cyan is going to be the aesthetic for inferno

More specifically cyan flames

[tame tendon]

god i hope not but it's possible

id rather something dark, grayish

[shadow cipher]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 2!

[tame tendon]

but you know what would be the best?

PURPL

purple era!!!

[stuck frigate]

Im just saying that since FEEF in a color wheel is a bright cyan color

[tame tendon]

blue and red makes purple

that would really make sense tbh

[tame tendon]

i think someone said it was debunked somehow

we know there was a lot of things about cyan anyways

claim cyan and stuff

[stuck frigate]

That was with DEEF, since it turns out that was part of the set they were using

[tame tendon]

still. THERE'S NO FEEF

feef is a typo guys 😔

[olive plume]

i thought that was with feef too

[stuck frigate]

It was on tyler’s shirt

[tame tendon]

hex codes are longer anyway

[brazen leaf]

wait is it acc

[stuck frigate]

Yes

[brazen leaf]

nvm