Double Album Confirmed

[rancid gust]

“The show is a flashback reminding us why we fight right before we do”

The tour ends in may 2025

That would be the end of the flashback that happens right before we fight

[raven lagoon]

But it's 2 months until tour, and it's completely silent. No interviews, tv performances nothin

[cloud lynx]

tbh

they've never made a lot of tv performances, at least since Trench

for Trench they done like, one award performance (Jumpsuit) at the beginning of the era

for SAI they've done The Outside as a tv performance after the mv released
and as for awards, only Shy Away right after the album release

maybe i forgot like one or two performances but like, that's the gist of it

i wouldn't be a lot surprised if they would not do any tv performances until even after the first tour, or during the tour

[golden igloo]

I will say this.

Teasing a second album a year later is super weird before a tour because now they will be bombarded with people asking about it

From a PR perspective it sucks and will take attention away from the tour itsself

[olive plume]

they performed saturday at the VMAs because that’s when tyler announced jenna was pregnant with junie

[split island]

stop im going insane

I did my part

time to pack it in boys

[small turtle]

it's obvious what this means; we should start clicking on suspicious emails that look like they might be attempting phishing

I'm kidddddinngg

[devout mango]

[/a/downloads/-/4a287aa28d391534/d36e7afa87dbe912] have we played around with the URL for the digital remains?

[languid crypt]

Tyler could of gotten A lot more done during lockdowns than we originally thought too

[languid crypt]

Agreed and it would give reason why leg 2 is a must see after leg 1

[small turtle]

yeah, and SAI is short, and they've been working on this story for over a decade. They've probably been saving a lot of music for the grand finale.

[jade mantle]

That’s along the lines of what I believe as well

[tough timber]

help am i onto something here #1256075556420583424

[small turtle]

welp, Tyler is tweeting jokes. so maybe nothing important will be said today after all...

[open bluff]

What if they drop something on a random day and only then we figure out why that date is important?

[small turtle]

there could be a message...but it could be nothing...but it probably isn't

this fandom makes my brain hurt

[small turtle]

maybe

but when

are they just gonna keep us in the dark until then

[open bluff]

I know just as much as you haha

[small turtle]

I was so convinced something would happen today

but today's not over...

[fathom lantern]

i definitely think there’s a code in the setlist tweet

not sure what but there’s a reason he tweeted something so unserious

[open bluff]

I mean the lavish before stressed out, stressed out and trees appear to be highlighted

Might be random, but does the password page still exist?

[silk bolt]

Yea it does

http://dmaorg.info/found/103_37/clancy.html

[open bluff]

I'll try something

Nope

[silk bolt]

Yea I tried turning the first of each letter into numbers and then adding their sum into a code but that was nothing , and the letters themselves were nothing

Subtracting repeats amounted to nothing as well

[open bluff]

Oh i did the nummers for what # track it is on the corresponding album

Sorry for that sentence my brain is not working today

[silk bolt]

That's probably smarter

There has to be a reason

9 Lavish but one isn't like the rest - "He goes by Nico, He told me I'm a copy"

[open bluff]

Part of me thinks it's just a joke and another part of me tells me everything could be a hint or something with this band

[silk bolt]

It probably partially is , but there's definitely something hidden in it just because goner is the most out there choice as Third song without a point in it and while yea he loves lavish and it has to be a joke at some level he specifically made sure to make it 9 Lavish with one spelt different just like the bishops one being, well Nico

Or something along those lines

There has to be something

Maybe nothing life altering

Not saying album release lmao

But I don't see why he'd do that

And wasn't the blurryface paint at 11:14 at night

Funnily enough this was at 11:14am- That one is just a massive stretch out of left field

[small turtle]

Can somebody stick a screenshot of the setlist in here? I can't find it all of a sudden

[small turtle]

thanks!

[small turtle]

so...are we supposed to take that as 11:14 means something?

I know, I know, nobody really knows...

[devout mango]

Wait a sec was it really at 11:14?

[small turtle]

I thought it was later than that but IDK, I can't see the og post

[open bluff]

Didn't even notice the lavash

[silk bolt]

Yes it was at 11:14

11:14 6/28, 11:14 the melting of blurryface from the start of the trench era and today's date 6/28 technically the ending of paladin strait

I'm pretty sure

[small turtle]

I'm sorry--melting of Blurryface? What does that mean?

[silk bolt]

I'll go back and find it I was just on it on the 25th

I mean the makeup

Form the trench era

[devout mango]

SORRY FOR THE CAPS 11:14 WAS THE TIME THAT TYLER SENT OUT THE "THING I KICKED IN 17" TWEET

[silk bolt]

Metaphorically, it melting into the sink

Yes as lex says

[devout mango]

idk if it means anything but the tweets were tweeted at the same minute

[silk bolt]

Thank you

Also sorry if it did confuse people at first when I started spewing... it helps I'm in the same time zone

Idk what 11:41 would be

[open bluff]

Not a password, just tried that

[devout mango]

11:14 not 41

[open bluff]

Oh

I’ll try

Nope doesn’t do anything either

[devout mango]

Thx

[silk bolt]

There's definitely significance here though because he did it at the exact time with this date... Or I'm going crazy

Or always have been

I accept both

[open bluff]

Maybe something’ll happen the 14th of November?

[silk bolt]

Isn't that the middle of tour

[long rose]

It is not tyler's hand writting right?

[open bluff]

I think so, just throwing out random guesses tho

[silk bolt]

It looks like his o at least

I mean I tattooed it on my arm

The O's have that same loop thing just like written over six times

[open bluff]

That’s awesome

[graceful hill]

They did shy away on jimmy Fallon and bbmas

[cloud lynx]

Oh

[cloud lynx]

Oh yeah i knew i forgot smth

[graceful hill]

Yeah I think Jimmy Fallon got deleted tho

[cloud lynx]

but still, they don't do a lot of tv/awards/album promotion performances in general

yeah idk why

label stuff probably but that's still stupid

[devout mango]

Can anyone try lining up pages 11 and 14 from DR? 11:14 seems to be relevant imo

[silk bolt]

@long rose thank you!

[long rose]

Looks cool my dude!

[devout mango]

I overlayed them, nothing really interesting 🤔

[safe spade]

Hmmm he DID wear that badge on his jacket in Oldies Station and that's track 11 👀

[devout mango]

Huh so what's 14... Hidden track 14?!?

[static sinew]

its the blurryface id code , 14 corresponds to goner

its the order of the blurryface tracks as they correspond to the towers

[devout mango]

Huh wait I need to understand this. What do you mean as the correspond to the towers?

[static sinew]

like. the towers correspond to the songs on blurryface right ?

thats the order of them

so like track 1 is hds is the 1st tower

and then the second tower is timh which is track 5

so the first number is 1 and the second is 5

and so on

[glacial fulcrum]

Wait did they actually tweet that lmaoooo 😭😭😭

[silk bolt]

Yea , and I looked in the digital remains discord and confirmed it on her insta, debby posted this to her Instagram story so there's definitely something fishy going on with this all

[long rose]

wdym?

[silk bolt]

That's from the lavish video

She posted it today, and Tyler posted his thing with lavish it just kinda points to it

It's just weird is all I'm saying

Why today of all days

After all this time

[stable badge]

Points to what exactly?

[static sinew]

9 more lavish mvs dropping today

[stable badge]

chat is this real?

[gritty bear]

Is double album hidden in a USB inside Lavash cafe?

[stable badge]

https://tenor.com/view/vineboom-ilybeeduo-gif-23126674

[silk bolt]

He's got a point

Raid lavash cafe today at midnight ?

[safe spade]

Umm I made a mini theory in here about what it might mean #1252689799597392014 message

[fathom lantern]

has anyone tried anything with the dmaorg url and changing the numbers corresponding to track placement and using the gaps like intermission as the underscore?

long shot for sure but worth a try just in case

[silk bolt]

I think under https://discord.com/channels/269657133673349120/1255478010342150286
They were just working on that

[fathom lantern]

ok word appreciate it

[silk bolt]

Yea I just figured out how to tag a discord that's why I just said "in the digital remains discord" cuz we've been talking about the lavish tweet and all the others lining up, it's weird isn't it ?

[safe spade]

Very weird!!!

[silk bolt]

And the 9 Lavish but one being lavash, just reminds me of the 9 bishops and the line from morph "He goes by Nico, He told me I'm a copy" because He's the exception

Lavash being the different one

[silk bolt]

Hey Guys what's underneath this lavish

[olive plume]

it just looks like he was spelling it as “laiish” and forgot the V so he went back in and added it

[tame tendon]

Guys ☝🏻

If you 🧐

Don’t count the encore 🧐🧐🧐

Then you get ☝🏻

28 words 🧐

28 is the date 🧐

Therefore ☝🏻

Something MIGHT ☝🏻

Happen today 🧐🤔

[vale canyon]

I´m a believer

[long rose]

I don't want to be a party pooper because I'd really like something to happen, but given what we've seen... we'll probably get the silent treatment again. Or the most that happened today will be that image of tyler, and that's it.

[silk bolt]

Smh you're gonna make me go out there and start counting again

That is true..

[long rose]

[silk bolt]

Or you're gonna make me obsess over the number 30 now

I mean give my delusions an encore am I right

[safe spade]

Hey does anyone have high quality images of the CD lyric book for Clancy 👀

[silk bolt]

Has anything ever been released on a Sunday 🥲

[fair dirge]

Guys I regret to say that but I don't believe you anymore

No double album

[tame tendon]

[sly hazel]

triple album believers rise

[tame tendon]

Quadruple album for life

[sly hazel]

fishing fishing fishing

[fair dirge]

It was just another Ty Jo lie

[novel bobcat]

I mean it could, other artists have, but it's not ideal especially for a whole album. The counting week for charts starts on Fridays so most releases like that are on Fridays, releasing on Sunday would put the artist at a disadvantage for charts. I don't think anything is coming today

[fair dirge]

9 lavishes in tweet means 9 albums

[tame tendon]

[fair dirge]

Trust me

[silk bolt]

All signs point to at least a deluxe or something extra at some point ; idc I love what we've been given , it was just a Question of when

[silk bolt]

That's what I figured

[tame tendon]

We will get 9 different versions of lavish on 9 different albums

[novel bobcat]

I agree w this, but I think we're looking at June next year after the tour

[novel bobcat]

this but with a bonus track of bounce man on the final one to wrap the story up

[olive plume]

a new locations sessions album but it’s all lavish

[tame tendon]

Yes

The deluxe will only have 9 different lavish live performances

That’s what they’ve been teasing at this entire time

[fallow violet]

damn verified got slapped hard

good thing nothing is probably happening soon

im still holding out hope for some more hints towards what it is we are gonna be waiting for

at least in some interviews

[olive plume]

oh god i just realized the message got edited to say the end of the weekend. it used to say in 24 hours

imagine tyler lurking and he’s like we gotta start teasing something Now

[fallow violet]

at least we still have theories just in case

[wraith gulch]

Ugh that’s brutal. But yeah at least we have theories!

[small turtle]

But if that's meant to be significant...why is the encore there, though?

[small turtle]

what message?

[wraith gulch]

In verified, which got put in timeout due to off-topic conversations

[small turtle]

I wish

[worldly wigeon]

Did anyone notice that his tweet also had 11 words in it, which has been coming up all over the place along with the 25

[small turtle]

no

but that's good to note

[worldly wigeon]

Anyone have screen shots of the document he put together for the lavish locations? This would have been in the Live Stream

[small turtle]

which tweet though?

[worldly wigeon]

#tyler message

[small turtle]

oooh

the one that has the joke setlist

[olive plume]

he’s so funny

[small turtle]

thanks

[worldly wigeon]

yup, what he just tweeted today

[small turtle]

he is, and infuriating

[rough pasture]

actually, I saw somewhere that they had placed called Lavish in Columbus, so maybe the different one "Lavash" was intentional

[olive plume]

lavash is the restaurant that’s been promoting clancy more than FBR have lol

[silk bolt]

Also to note on 11 and 6 might I add the set list had 11 words with 6 letters

[silk bolt]

They do , they have a cafe it's in the video it was intentional but also interesting why he did
It exactly 9 times with only one different

[pure timber]

9 bishops but keons is dead

[devout mango]

This is a repeat so sorry for those of you who've seen this but. He also make the lavish tweet and the original washing hands tweet at the exact same time. 11:14, 11+14=25? Maybe? Idk could be something

[fathom lantern]

i’m guessing no luck with the joke setlist and finding some sort of hidden clue in it?

[worldly wigeon]

It almost looks like vessel is under stressed out

[silk bolt]

Nothing to put into dmaorg yet, I've been trying

[fathom lantern]

keep fighting the good fight 🫡 if i think of anything else ill drop it here

[worldly wigeon]

Confetti hit, Josh no shirt, shirt back on - all 11 letters

[jade mantle]

Amen and amen let’s get back to it

[worldly wigeon]

Stressed out - 11

[jade mantle]

Guys

There’s 14 songs listed (minus intermission and such)

[devout mango]

Yes?

[devout mango]

OH HELL YA I'M IN LETS GO 💕

[jade mantle]

“Get in losers” is 11 letters 🤪

[worldly wigeon]

I swear there is something beneath stressed out and lavish above it

The D in stressed looks like an L beneath it.

[devout mango]

"Encore trees" is also 11 letters I believe

[worldly wigeon]

Move a V down and you get Vessel

There is totally something here I just can’t find it

[jade mantle]

Send the whole photo for me 🫦im onto something

[devout mango]

I think it's in #tyler

[jade mantle]

11 14 backwards 😇

[devout mango]

i hope that's something 😭

[jade mantle]

Lmao I see it

[worldly wigeon]

Yup I like that

[jade mantle]

11 + 14 is….

it’s……

25 🧐

[worldly wigeon]

Yup

[silk bolt]

That's what I was trying to say before

[jade mantle]

Who has Josh’s running tweet

[silk bolt]

What is it

[jade mantle]

Just for reference sorry

[silk bolt]

Underneath

[worldly wigeon]

That lavish is 11th if you remove the intermission

So what is 11 14 besides 25?

[jade mantle]

Good question lol

[silk bolt]

If I were him I would enjoy doing this with no intention and watching chaos unfold from a burner account

Not saying there isnt I think there is but it would be hilarious

[jade mantle]

Okay mimbo jimbo (tyler)

[silk bolt]

11 is the amount of tracks needed left to finish out the 25 to make the double album , also the amount of letters Tyler tweeted in that random assortment right before overcompensate

[silk bolt]

Lmao who can say

[jade mantle]

Oh yes I remember

[silk bolt]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7Xt8wZNSGu/?igsh=MThwYmRtN3l3M2R4OQ==

Forgot to add this to the reason I thought it's gonna be 25 tracks .

Paul uses 13 the number of actual tracks on the record first and then when taking about the bandito mob layer makes sure to use the number 25 when talking about the tracks and emphasizes it like a tease - it got me when he first posted it

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[jade mantle]

Oh Paul 🥴

So if this is fr fr do we just wait until 11:14?

His tweet is 11 words

My heart is beating quickly

[stuck frigate]

...uh...

I believe double album probably more than anybody else, but.. 😬

[solid whale]

This aged so badly

[tame trout]

i know trees always ends the set but im listening to it again right now and i think the parallel between the lyrics “i want to say hello” is interesting considering that Nico is saying hello Clancy

[waxen meteor]

was watching this and paul happens to say "13 tracks" and "25 tracks" -- could be a crazy coincidence but a good watch regardless of possible hints toward a double album https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0d7Y-mmDLA

[lean mango]

I thought it was coincidence

But now I'm not so sure

I counted the drum tracks and they had significantly more than 13

[long rose]

Like most of 6/25?

[lean mango]

That's a highly specific number for not even being accurate

[lean mango]

^

13 isn't really a number you'd just give offhand usually unless it is specific

[lean mango]

Also this, thought it had to be coincidence but these things are... worded weirdly

"Confetti hit" isn't really a term afaik

And "josh no shirt" and "shirt back on" feels like a bit of a forced awkward way to say that

[lean mango]

I never thought 6 25 was a coincidence and I still don't

Just don't know the significance

[long rose]

I would not be surprised if, due to delays, that date has been pushed back.

[lean mango]

My prediction is it was delayed like the album/vid

Ye

And they didn't communicate about the Paladin delay

[long rose]

That is also something to keep in mind so I agree with you

[lean mango]

The weirdest thing to me is they still have 225 songs on yt and haven't uploaded something since, and they've paused their normal promo schedule again for some reason

Still have, what, 3 MVs with no shorts yet?

[long rose]

I get the impression that something bigger than them is getting in the way of what they may have wanted to do or planned.

Because this era has felt a little strange because of the issue of delays and the silence that they have somehow put

[lean mango]

Seems likely

Maybe the same studio that worked on the Paladin vid

Tho I have to wonder, why did they pause all promo before that video came out?

[long rose]

It could be said for creating a little bit of expectation but it doesn't seem to be all

[lean mango]

Also made an observation about today's tweet

It's 14 songs, but 13 in the main concert and 1 encore

Still not entirely convinced that this post is intended as anything, I'll be honest, when I saw people theorizing at first I thought it was a major stretch to find any meaning in it

But then 11 four times...

You wanna know what this feels like to me?

This feels like watching Gravity Falls before ||Ford was revealed|| and catching all the crazy theories on YouTube, never being sure if it was intentional or not

[silk bolt]

So it mirrors the same way the current album is set up? Where there is 13 in it with the one single by itself makinh 14

[teal compass]

Yeah I’m hoping they do have that one big reveal or twist lined up that makes all the tiny details fall into place, feels like we’re either missing something big or Tyler just halfassed the ending of a carefully crafted multi album story he put years of work into for no reason which just seems so unlike him

We have plenty of space in the narrative and time in the album cycle for them to actually wrap this all up in a satisfying way they just need to actually give us stuff

Hell even if he did just let this one get away from him and it was all bad planning they still have plenty of time to make up for it and course correct before this era is over if they actually try

[waxen meteor]

i have full faith in a proper ending (which means additional content in some form beyond the PS MV), no course correction needed, they already have in the works. this (that is, the albums + lore in this storyline) is their magnum opus and has been cooking since at least 2009.

just having fun going a bit mad trying to figure out the ending -- or when we will get it -- before they directly hand it to us : )

[stuck frigate]

Yeah they basically confirmed Paladin isnt the ending at this point

So after were all done with the tour, we’ll get the crazy reveal

[pure timber]

11 july confirmed

11 july is the new 6/25

[small turtle]

obviously we were meant to work out that 13-6=7, therefore 7/25

[worldly wigeon]

https://affinitynumerology.com/number-meanings/number-25-meaning.php

[devout mango]

I've been trying to figure out what was on the corner of this pic, and I finally found it 😭 don't know if it means anything

[silk bolt]

Is that the nornal code at the bottom ?

[silk bolt]

Normal *

[devout mango]

Yes I believe so

[silk bolt]

Ah then it probably isn't anything 😔

[devout mango]

Original pic on the left also has red tape on it? I had been playing around with lining it up with another pic earlier

[devout mango]

The tape in these two appears to me to be the same exact piece of tape (maybe it's just Photoshop who knows 🤷🏽‍♀️)

[devout mango]

Ah nvm iall this looks like it was part of the original answer they found for the paladin strait vid 😅

[silk bolt]

This man has us running in circles

[devout mango]

HEY I just noticed something in DR! does anyone remember the pic Debby posted where her shadow is photo bombing a shot?

Here it is in DR, no extra Debby shadow

[onyx dust]

it's cut there

right where her shadow is

[devout mango]

Can you show me?

[onyx dust]

right about were i drew the line, i eyeballed it

[devout mango]

Ahhh thx 🙏🏽

[long rose]

@devout mango you can go to the forum of Digital Remains puzzle, they did Such a big Work on tying together images on the Digital Remains! 👍

[quaint steppe]

I realised this morning that I’d actually be so chill with it being next year if they’d announced it, it’s just the uncertainty that’s painful. Like the thought of not knowing for a year or months has got my head spinning, and every time I’m ready to stop thinking about it a new reddit post comes up saying they found something and it’s the most outlandish theory ever 😭😂

I realise it’s only been eight days since PS but still

[devout mango]

Digital remains thread won't let me send messages for some reason

[small turtle]

no, it feels like way more than eight days; I feel you on this point

I feel like Tyler probably dropped the fake set list yesterday just so we didn't feel as sad and abandoned as we did on Tuesday

[devout mango]

Hey page 41 in the DR, it's different from the front of that building in the backslide mv (in DR there are added signs)

[tame tendon]

It’s safe to say

The 28 and 25 is out the window

[fleet pier]

2025 every one. Makes the most sense

[silk bolt]

I told my friend that when it came out they thought it didn't mean anything

[devout mango]

Why not?

[lean mango]

No, people keep saying it does and only citing that tweet but disregarding all of the other stuff that makes no sense with it being 2025

Like why announce it at all before the Paladin MV and during active promo for the recent release if it's not coming for over a year at the time we first got that hint?

Why wait on all major interviews (in fact, most interviews of any kind) even after the Paladin MV came out and we know it's a cliffhanger?

And why be cryptic at all if it's just teasing next year? Teasing 25 (especially with 6 in many cases) is ambiguous, but if 2025 was always the intent then it's straight-up misleading, since the obvious assumption just before and during most of June would be that 6 and 25 refer to a month and day rather than month and year. I've heard people say "well that's just an assumption," but that fundamentally misunderstands how promo and teasers work. It's their job, and one that their promo team is really good at, to hint in the right direction without straight-up saying it, which means eliminating ambiguity or obvious wrong assumptions as much as possible. There are 100 other ways to tease that if they're referring to the year. For example, if it's happening in 2025 anyway, why do we need to know the month already? Why include 6 at all when it's only likely to make it misunderstood and they have an entire year to hint towards more specifics? And they quadrupled down on the 6, so I don't believe for a second that it's a coincidence

As of now, they still haven't resumed their normal promo and finished out the shorts for the music videos

And they're seemingly waiting on something, but we don't know what

No matter what it is, pretty much, either a second music video or second album, or even a short film, there's no reason to announce it an entire year in advance, that's way too long for a rollout, so we're probably not waiting on an announcement if nothing's happening until then

Also 2025 doesn't explain them removing all physical versions of Clancy from the online store now, they can't keep that up for an entire year

IMO there's a mountain of evidence against nothing happening for another year, one tweet is not enough to overcome all that

[wraith gulch]

If they meant 2025 it would have been incredibly easy to say “2025” instead of “25”. Heck, they could have written ‘25 and that apostrophe would have meant the same thing. But it would have been clear. I agree with facecat. I believe they are being intentionally ambiguous in wait for something we simply do not know about yet.

25 could mean 2025, yes. It could have meant June 25th, yes. It didn’t, but the theory had enough merit to be incredibly popular. Just because we are past it now and it was wrong doesn’t mean it didn’t have merit. 2025 similarly has merit, but in no way do I think it is clear and I think there are contrasting ideas that are just as probable for many of the reasons facecat laid out.

[fleet pier]

What else could 25 mean at this point?

[shut spruce]

honestly though.

[lean mango]

Well, for those of us on the double album train, could easily mean 25 tracks total

Otherwise, it could've been intended to be June 25th and just got delayed

and they can't or didn't say anything about it for the same reason they couldn't or didn't say anything about the Paladin video when early June passed

DUDE

This has probably been noticed before but at this point I can't believe it's coincidence

Tyler tweeted his joke setlist tweet at 11:14

And it's already been pointed out that all of the Lavish "descriptions" are 11 letters long, and his caption is 11 words long

And there are 14 songs on the setlist

13 + 1 encore

[silk bolt]

Yea that was why the main reason I thought it wasn't a joke yesterday and was trying to figure it out

I just couldn't figure out what it was killing me 😭😭

[lean mango]

That's five different 11s in the same tweet

and IMO his wording is too unusual/forced for it to not be intended

[silk bolt]

No there's actually 6 11 letter words

[lean mango]

O yea, also Stressed Out

[silk bolt]

Which is even worse

Yeaaaa

[olive plume]

was the theory 11 tracks for the second album to make it a total of 25 tracks?

[silk bolt]

Yea

[lean mango]

I mean, that could be coincidence, it's just their most popular, but idk

they didn't include Ride or Heathens

[silk bolt]

He just made it match up all too perfectly

[lean mango]

also, like

"confetti hit"

it's not hard to guess what he means, but that wording is weird

the term confetti hit isn't really a thing

and "Josh no shirt" + "shirt back on"

[silk bolt]

All just to make it 28 long plus two more which is the exact amount of days June has in it

30

6 - June

11- songs

30 - days

How it makes sense ? No idea

Coincidence? Highly possible but coincidence creates probable reality

[lean mango]

It'll take more to be really certain but the 11 references there are definitely sus

same with the exact tweet time of the Blurryface tweet

(12 hour difference but y'know)

I still think the 11 dots on the FPE sign has to mean something

[silk bolt]

I mean if it's about fighting back against blurry face then being am instead of pm makes perfect sense

[lean mango]

11 is a really weird number of dots to use on an ellipsis, that's more than 3x as long as they normally are

[silk bolt]

You know cuz it's all about the mental struggle really in the end

[lean mango]

and both Tyler and Brandon Rike made it clear that when it comes to branding and promo, there's meaning behind every small decision

[silk bolt]

That's very very true

And they said this time they were going to be more careful didn't they

[olive plume]

it’s also an incomplete ellipses anyway, since they’re three dots. so it’s almost a complete 4 ellipses (one off). maybe if we group them together, it’ll be like… almost 4 months?

[lean mango]

Maybe

I took that as evidence that they're meant to be counted separately rather than as ellipses, since there aren't a complete number

[silk bolt]

Can you put the image in the chat for me ?

I don't have it

[lean mango]

Here's an example

there are a few like this

they always wrote it as "we're twenty one pilots ...........and so are you"

well, almost always, there's at least one sign that doesn't use the dots at all, and one that just uses a normal ellipsis but it's not really a graphic designed sign

this one in the middle

[olive plume]

could it just be a graphic design decision? it seems like it’s justified to make everything uniform so maybe they just added enough periods to make it all be equal? but they’ve hinted at things with punctuation before so it must mean something

[lean mango]

that's possible

Can anyone identify that font?

I want to check something

The dots almost look to me like they're spaced more widely than they naturally are in that font

[worldly wigeon]

I started a forum on that https://discord.com/channels/269657133673349120/1256724195375845488

[waxen meteor]

somewhat related, do we know if TOP has a 360 deal w/ fueled by ramen?

[waxen meteor]

an alternate interpretation of all of the strangeness around promotion and the lack of physical editions available on their own website is some sort of major screw up by their label, which wouldn't shock me

(and if that was the case, they also probably couldnt just come out and say it publicly)

[teal compass]

We don’t know any real specifics about their contract unfortunately, the only thing we know is that they were the only label that agreed to all of Tyler and Josh’s demands for creative freedom when multiple labels were seeking them out for a deal

Given how hard they’ve pushed merch and touring since signing though I think it’s a reasonable assumption that it’s a 360 deal

Going off some other fbr artists like Panic! And Paramore it’s likely they were signed on for 7 records but again no real concrete info

[waxen meteor]

that's interesting, since if they do drop a second album as part of the clancy era, that would be their 7th album w/ FBR (assuming that the stuff like mtv unplugged, livestream SAI, etc. don't count as 'real' albums)

[silk bolt]

Oh that one? I do have that one I actually went to that it was sick ..I didn't realize that's what you meant thought it was like a digital thing they posted

[sly hazel]

I wonder where a deluxe B Side album falls under the numbering of albums

Like if they do Clancy: The Final Chapter
Does that count as a 7th? Or is it just a different version of 6?

[lean mango]

The way they're talking about it, probably a different version of 6

[sly hazel]

Yeah that's what I was thinking
I guess even if it's a full b side it's still technically the same album
So I guess the next album would be their 7th
Which is interesting to think if their contract would end after that one what they'd do after but that's a conversation for 3-4 years in the future

[lean mango]

Wouldn't the next one only be their 6th?

Vessel, Blurryface, Trench, SAI, Clancy

[waxen meteor]

the whole physical editions not being in their website thing-- that definitely feels like something related to the label. in a traditional contract (not 360), the label makes money through getting a large portion of music sale revenue (as opposed to peripherals like tours, merch, etc.). and even in a 360, they still get a significant part of album sale revenue. so not having those physical editions available on the website doesn't feel like something their label would even allow them to do if there wasn't a very compelling reason that would benefit them financially. so it seems more like some sort of screw up on someone's part than anything else, at least to me

[lean mango]

Or it's a necessity for some reason

[waxen meteor]

was self titled not released during the fbr contract?

[safe spade]

I dont think so..... it was made before they were signed....

[waxen meteor]

i remember hearing an interview w/ tyler where he discussed their label suggesting to remake RAB and publish it as a album, but instead tyler and josh were like, no we'd rather on remake some of the song and then record some new ones. so im pretty sure it was released during their contract

[safe spade]

That was for Regional At Best

And they re-did those songs for Vessel

[waxen meteor]

yeah youre right i had my timeline all screwed up!

so if they did sign a 7 album contract, then there's still two more ot go after clancy

[signal spruce]

This may be nothing but I just noticed that on Tyler’s tweet with the fake setlist, the top line has 52 characters (25 backwards) and the second line has 6

[safe spade]

From the Vessel Livestream Tyler said FBR asked if they wanted the label to publish RAB as a whole and at the time they said No so they consider RAB a mixtape and it technically it doesn't "exist" however 👀...

I think its completely possible they COULD have re-recorded ST/RAB so they'll technically be apart of their contract and Clancy would be their 7th album like apple music and other sites keep saying....

[waxen meteor]

man, i want to say its random but its like. how many time can you make a tweet with stuff related to 25 by accident

[safe spade]

Because if they are gonna be playing RAB songs on tour they'd want people to be able to actually listen to the songs......and they played Slowtown in Columbus.....

[wraith gulch]

Here’s a different example of the FPE sign where there is zero reason whatsoever for them to have used 11 dots, yet they did:

@lean mango

[signal spruce]

Literally what are they doing 😭

[sly hazel]

The deluxe album is released on the 6th of the 25th month in 1411

It's engraved on a stone tablet
We have to go back in time and find it

[safe spade]

.......hmm...how many times have they used FPE?

[silk bolt]

I didn't even notice that ...........

[silk bolt]

Yea you're right even that fpe sign adds up to 25 with the dots cuz the lines of the ellipse is 14 + 11 dots

We really aren't the crazy ones

[safe spade]

Ok so in terms of numbers we keep gettting 25, 11 and 14....and 6...

[signal spruce]

Is there still a website on dma we can enter codes into or is that gone?

[devout mango]

Yes lms if I can link itn

[devout mango]

https://dmaorg.info/found/103_37/clancy.html

[signal spruce]

Thanks so much!! I’m gonna try some things

[devout mango]

Thank you! 🙏🏽

[silk bolt]

And 30 technically if you count this one last encore from his last tweet but that's just a cope ...

More so just hoping for an announcement of some sort ...or end of month something happens

[safe spade]

I keep thinking about him wearing the violation code alot....which he wore that violation code on his jacket in Oldies Station......

..and he wore it in the Midwest Indigo Video/Routines.....

[barren saffron]

The double-album will come out July 16, because it’s 25 days after the Paladin Strait music video released (I’m reaching)

25 days after 6 (June music video) - 6:25 (I’m in denial)

[safe spade]

Or.....July 12th 👀 its 21 days after June 21st.....

But ugh this is frustrating whats with all the 25's

[signal spruce]

So far I’ve had no luck with these as codes:
6251114
6251411
1114625
1411625
5261114
526411
1411256
1114256
625411
256411
411625
411256

[odd cargo]

sad we missed out on rab but at least we got semi-automatic out of it

[devout mango]

What about 06 💀

[safe spade]

Hmm...since a lot of things keep pointing back to Vessel (how did you find dmaorg.info, adding Guns for Hands and Trees Live)........maybe its something there we are missing??

[signal spruce]

No luck with any of those combos with 06 either 😕

I feel like I’m missing something

[devout mango]

Thanks for trying 🙏🏽

[wraith gulch]

Someone pointed this out somewhere else (can’t remember where), but if you take away all the lavishes and look at the first letter of what’s remaining, it spells “GHOSTS.” Not sure if relevant, or intentional, but anything is possible.

[safe spade]

"I'll morph to someone else I'm just a ghost" from Morph????

Tyler changing to be Clancy maybe???

Hmmmm

[safe spade]

Hmmmm.....I WAS thinking about something slightly morbid when it came to the red tape that was on the albums......everyone with covered eyes on the covers is technically dead. Keons, The Grandparents, Trash, Clifford(?)

And the bridge of Redcorate is practically about going into someone's room after they've passed on....

and that's where Scaled and Icy = Clancy Is Dead comes from......

and we got DIGITAL REMAINS a week after the album came out......

[signal spruce]

Oooh creepy, I like it

[silk bolt]

Do any of the DR give off the ghost vibe and connect or point to anything else ?

[safe spade]

Hmm a few pages

[silk bolt]

Ghosts is also 6

[safe spade]

It seems like he's climbing out of a grave or a hole

[silk bolt]

What page number is this one

And what does it connect to

That's true

[safe spade]

That's page 50

In the Clancy Journal it's next to one of the letters that talks about the Saturday video where people lost their lives and Clancy is asking if the cold water preserved him...

[silk bolt]

Oooooo....

So ghosts, zombies, now we're into the chill, vignette is the 6th song in the list got out number 6 that was filmed in the ice with the vulture at 25 seconds in mentions the undead , ties it in and didn't people start to notice it seem like vessel was written in joshes hair at the end

I know that was dot to dot to dot but

[safe spade]

Oh I should mention

The Dema sheet said: seize available vessel
at Voldsoy eastern cove
intercept bishops.
__
glorious gone = available vessel
__
bishops control the available vessel!
intercept and seize
__
they will make you a weapon

Page 103 in DR

[silk bolt]

Hmmm

Oh and what's 37

Cuz isn't that our current situation way to get into the passcodes

Okay it's the Clancy mask

So both masks

That might be symbolic

[safe spade]

Also 103 was part of the link where we found PS video

[silk bolt]

Yea so was 37 wasn't it

Cuz it's the password page

[safe spade]

yep

[silk bolt]

I'm trying to think of the logic behind it so we can break this one down step by step too if at all possible 😭😭

Can we just get blurryface to step in again

[safe spade]

this is page 37

Have we talked at all about in Snapback Tyler says "If I'm gonna snap necks then I gotta snap back"

and at the end he "walks into the light"

Also the "body" in Oldies Station.....

waaiitt......

So follow me here but this letter says, "To see bright eyes strangled by the darkness of bishop hands. As their penance fades, so dims their memory of something more."

[silk bolt]

I'm following so far

[safe spade]

and I'm aware it probably means the evilness the bishops have BUT in Paladin their hands are white

Also throwing this in there

[silk bolt]

That's true but where they touch might be the darkness like they are pale like death and decay and they leave darkness in their wake

[silk bolt]

But also true

If we don't get some type of tweet or hint today to help us peice this all together the 6 is kinda thrown out the window cuz I'm with most others that June of next year is way too far out for any sensible level or person to start teasing before they even start doing any press for the current album

[safe spade]

I agree

Also I was looking at the merch store and this one kinda confused me

https://store.twentyonepilots.com/products/strangler-glow-t-shirt

I wasn't expecting that picture to be called Strangler....

considering it's the first thing you see on their website and the tour page....but for some reason, Tyler's eyes are cut off....

I bring this up because of this: #1213244361320439828 message

[waxen meteor]

i also thought strangler was such a strange title for that shirt. like, clancy, blink twice if you need help

[silk bolt]

He does it to himself in concert

That was when I went to Columbus

The name doesn't get me but the eyes cut off does

[safe spade]

Also I just noticed on that one inverted picture with the seize a vessel writing the statue has rope around its feet like its being hung like that....

[silk bolt]

Wait that's true

Waiitttttt

The old migraine video

[safe spade]

and someone in here said they saw others saying that its supposed to be a noose....so maybe OG Clancy hung himself

[silk bolt]

That brings me back

[safe spade]

Broooo the old Goner video

it had sounds like someone was hanging......

[silk bolt]

Yea goner too

That's actually probably it

Wait

And that's in the fake setlist

[safe spade]

Ooooo I think we're cooking

[silk bolt]

I think so 🔥🔥

[safe spade]

Also Im 90% sure that Goner video was made during the Vessel Era......

Feb 11th, 2012 is when it was uploaded

........AND ITS THE 14TH TRACK ON BLURRYFACE

[silk bolt]

Bruh

He can't keep getting away with this

[safe spade]

And Holding On To You with the Noose......

[silk bolt]

The behind the scenes

Yeet

[safe spade]

Oh.......wait....there's rope in the box Torch and the banditos give to "Clancy" in Paladin....

[silk bolt]

He's come a long way

Wait really

[safe spade]

Same box from the video

[silk bolt]

Omg

[safe spade]

He DOES have Rope on him when he climbs the tower but he never uses it???

[silk bolt]

... Do you think that box is his "Pandora's" box , his you know from migraine but like his person curses from his life like masks he's worn to cover his fears (hide from the bishops ) , the noose, ect

And he opens it cuz he's ready to unleash it all in paladin cuz it's the climax

That's why the mask comes off

And he opens his eyes

Cuz he can face him head on

If you think of it from a mental health standpoint that how I would

[safe spade]

Also speaking of Migraine "Sometimes to stay alive you gotta kill your mind"

Burning down Dema.....

[silk bolt]

Exactly

[waxen meteor]

goner itself predates blurryface, there was an early demo version on no phun intended (written tylers senior year of HS)-- its origin as a full song was sometime bwteen NPI and Vessel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC1vK7lta9Q
i cant even listen to this version, its too much

[silk bolt]

Ooof I'll have to in the morning it's 2 am here I'm not gonna do that to myself

[waxen meteor]

its basically the same as the video-- so this version of goner goes back to like high school tyler

[safe spade]

Also, I was looking at one of the letters and I thought I was crazy there was a different number other than the violation code but I wasn't: CASE 15390642 14: [DELINQUENT] CLANCY VS. THE SACRED MUNICIPALITY OF DEMA

I've never seen anyone talk about that

[silk bolt]

Wait what

Did anyone put that in ?!

[devout mango]

Huh? which letter? 🙏🏽

[silk bolt]

Just to try it for fun in the password

Wait I think _14 is the same one from his shirt isn't it

Oh wait it isn't

His shirt is 15398642_14

[devout mango]

Didn't work for me with all the numbers in order, with and underscore bt 2_14, or with a space br 2 14

[safe spade]

Wait Reddit lead me astray (and I think the wiki cause I SWEAR I saw it had a 0 somewhere)

[silk bolt]

Dang

[safe spade]

but its also a case no. 15398642_14

maybe we should make a thread @silk bolt?

[silk bolt]

Or rename this one at this point 😂

But yes

[safe spade]

I still believe in the double album

But the clancy link basically being a case file of evidence 👀

Also I put STRANGLER GLOW into some anagram solvers and Goners and Antlers were some of the words that came up excluding some lettwrs obviously

[silk bolt]

I wonder if theres another word to add to the mix to make up for the extra letters

[safe spade]

Stone Wall was a phrase I for bit its a strech but maybe T-Shirt?

The full phrase is "Strangler Glow T-Shirt" so maybe we try that?

[silk bolt]

Yea that might help , unless there's a bunch of different type of glow ones

Types

[safe spade]

Hmmm maybe im kinda new to anagramss

Stonewall is a word I keep seeing

[plush island]

Reminds me of My Blood

[safe spade]

Hmmm 🤔

[plush island]

Replied to the wrong image

I meant the one of Josh in the skeleton mask playing the drums

[safe spade]

No you replied to the right one

It DOES remind me of My Blood....

[plush island]

I'm gonna work on something possibly in the morning maybe now if I can't sleep theres been something bothering me ever since I noticed Trash in The Craving (Single Version)

[safe spade]

Yess Trash in Thr Craving has bothered me too!

Also the fact The Craving has 2 videos and single version he has no black paint on his hands.....also a strech but the bullet in The Craving and "Guns for Hands"

Ok im going to sleep 😴 but I think we definitely have....SOMETHING with Goner and Ghosts

[brazen leaf]

HEAR ME OUT (NOT DELUSIONAL) - but on this setlist that tyler posted on twitter tyler included 2 SONGS from Clancy but only 1 song from scaled and icy, 1 song from blurryface and 1 song from vessel..... this REINFORCES the double album theory and confirms x2 projects relating to clancy...

tyler also posted TWICE on june 28th and the second post was posted at 10:56, 56-28 = 28 and 28-3 = 25 which means 2025 two albums + 18 = 20 + 5 = 2025, double album in 2025

[plain lion]

yall were most definitely cooking 🧑🏻‍🍳

[celest dust]

Just went through some old clips and in the MV for Holding On To You (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktBMxkLUIwY&list=PL8E828464E67B2CE5&index=43) he literally has a noose around his neck. Also, there's "ghosts" dancing around them on stage. I know it predates official lore, but it's for sure a repeated element

"I'm taking over my body, back in control, no more shotty" also fits the end of the Paladin Strait MV

[worldly wigeon]

https://discord.com/channels/269657133673349120/1256724195375845488

[brazen leaf]

i wasn’t being serious sadly

[small turtle]

About the 'ghosts' thing, and the earlier conversation about the idea that Clancy is dead...I have been thinking about the idea that Clancy is dead, or will die and be returned to life, a lot. One reason is that I'm stuck on the idea that the controlling of dead bodies is a twisted, evil inversion of resurrection. And imagery from their early music keeps floating to the surface of my brain when I look at lore things. For example, heading into Trench, according to the map, is heading east (also 'you will leave Dema and head true East'). And there's that box in the PS video that's got the stuff he puts on before the battle--the rope, the mask, whatever those are meant to symbolize. And then I always think 'the hearse ran out of gas....I cracked open my box [coffin]...'Am I alive and well or am I dreaming dead?'...'We're driving toward the morning sun where all your blood is washed away and all you did will be undone.' Of course themes from the early music remain in the later music and it doesn't necessarily mean anything, and the use of morning sun and east as symbols of hope and new life isn't unique to TOP. But like...why hint Clancy is dead if he isn't, or will be at some point? I know he could have seen himself as metaphorically dead during his captivity, yet the fact that he can be seized, and the way his eyes glow in some of those music videos...it's just all too weird.

[small turtle]

Also...the repeated noose imagery is probably the most upsetting element of all of this, especially if one thinks back to the original version of 'Goner'

[safe spade]

An excellent point....but I just have to say its Shawty 🤭

[ocean socket]

"Scaled and icy" is an anagram for "clancy is dead", and i've heard someone say the bishops said this to like warn the other people wanting to escape. But in one of clancy's letters he says they asked him to name it (something he did not expect) i'm just curious why would clancy name the album "clancy is dead" and i've seen people say that the "OG" clancy is dead. But still why name it "clancy is dead" ?

Photo is from letters on genius

[devout mango]

Maybe it's a warning from Clancy saying like "this isn't me, someone's put me up to this"

[safe spade]

I was thinking about Routines of The Night 'doors have "stay out" makes me think of The Walking Dead

[zinc musk]

These lines make me think that Clancy is indeed a title passed around those leading the rebellion, so the person he was seizing during OC is as much Clancy as he is

And maybe with "Clancy is dead" he's also referring to the fact that he turned away from what he stood for by using the powers of the Bishops

But that's probably just me going on a tangent sorry

[tame tendon]

Wasn’t SAI the bishops forcing Clancy to perform for the glorious gone celebrations

[cedar yacht]

Hey guys, I really liked what u found

that the song names are an anagram for ghosts

I do think that means something

[ocean socket]

Sai was made under the control of dema, but it seems clancy got to make the name of the record himself

[safe spade]

So I was listening to Doubt and 👀

I feel like I forgot all about that line

[ocean socket]

Same

[lean mango]

Idk if it's been pointed out here yet but the intermission is very suspicious imo because they don't usually have intermissions at their shows

[safe spade]

That is sus.....

[lean mango]

Also, Goner is also here meaning 2 songs from Blurryface

[safe spade]

Also I saw a comment on the 2012 version of Goner that that version is where he loses the battle with Blurryface while the one on Blurryface is him winning.....

Also I forgot the scream at the end of Goner (2012) is the scream we here at the start of Heavydirtysoul....

[long rose]

Could make sense in a way of him "winning" is just entering in the Cycle again against Nico

[safe spade]

And Shy Away he talks about breaking the cycle.....

[small turtle]

there's a 2012 version of Goner? The only versions I know are the OG from No Phun Intended (technically 'I'm a Goner') and the version from Blurryface

[safe spade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgmgFLV0fp4&ab_channel=twentyonepilots

It came out February 11th 2012

[small turtle]

a single?

[lean mango]

Afaik it being on NPI is a common misconception

So this is probably the same one

[small turtle]

I'm so confused

It's NOT on NPI?

[safe spade]

its not

I found this on Reddit

[small turtle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC1vK7lta9Q So this is just fake news?

It was in looking up the songs in NPI that I first encountered that version of the song

[safe spade]

I believe so!

[small turtle]

huh

[safe spade]

The 2012 version of Goner is the only legit version that is confirmed. I think the NPI version is just a fan made version??

its all a bit confusing tbh

So we found it via a Vessel gif

And it was found in between Blurryface and Trench....🤔

[silk bolt]

I saw that as to the reason behind the code I mean it makes sense

With east being up and reading it as track numbers from left to right and up to down

[celest dust]

Yeah on the store website right? I was wondering if there's maybe new hints/clues in there but couldn't find anything yet. But maybe we go back to the start?

[silk bolt]

Can we parallel a track from Clancy to each one and see if it creates a link

[safe spade]

yeah we can try and I FORGOT THE STREET HES STANDING ON IN GONER IS CALLED CLANCY WAY

[vale canyon]

"I've got two faces, blurry is the one I'm not"

[silk bolt]

There is the burning blurry face logo within the inferno behind the front cover of Clancy

Oh wow

Really right in front of our eyes

[vale canyon]

"I need your help to take him out" Torchbearer helps clancy with guidance

[small turtle]

Maybe that's part of why Goner was on the fake setlist. Though I suppose it's also the only (?) song of theirs that would allow him to spell 'ghosts'

[vale canyon]

"The ghost of you, is close to me, I'm inside out, you're underneath"

[safe spade]

In one of the letters that has " I only hope whatever spark was left has grown to a torch, and together we create an inferno" it had bolded letters that spelled MERUOIENPEPA

Has ANYONE figured out what that means??

[vale canyon]

HOLY

SHIT

[safe spade]

Ok but why would Clancy be afraid to burn 🤔

[safe spade]

Its looking like it

[small turtle]

oh man. ghost. I didn't put that together.

I've never known who the 'ghost' is in that song anyway

I have theories but they're just theories with little basis

[vale canyon]

The ghost really is josh, the guide, torchbearer power

[safe spade]

Morph = I'll morph to someone else Im just a ghost

[small turtle]

I guess that makes sense

[safe spade]

#1213244361320439828 message the is the only real strange thing I found in the store....

[vale canyon]

In this case can be a little confusing as clancy in morph feels like a ghost, he does watch himself from another view. In goner we can pretty much see the final confrontation, clancy feels the ghost of josh with him, knowing he's battiling with the zombies

[small turtle]

I always wondered if it was somehow a reference to God--ie 'Holy Spirit', in older language Holy Ghost...and I just realized that could lead back to Torchbearer anyway because fire is also a way of representing God; God appears as fire sometimes in the Bible.

[vale canyon]

Surtr haha dont mind me, hellblade has been in my mind

[safe spade]

Ive seen someone else say he's the father, the son, the holy spirit

[small turtle]

who is

[safe spade]

Josh

[vale canyon]

A car a torch a death

[small turtle]

well I know there's a connection there

regardless of lore Tyler obviously has had the image of God as a man with a torch for a long time

[vale canyon]

The holy spirit is the guidance? Or the father?

[small turtle]

(and I feel really dumb bc for the past two+ years (since I first took a deep dive into their music) I have been picturing the 'torch' in that song as a flashlight)

[small turtle]

Holy Spirit is usually associated with guidance--but it could be either or both as they are technically the same!

[vale canyon]

"I prayed those lights would take me home"

[small turtle]

so when someone first pointed out to me that the image of the torchbearer technically first appears in 'A car, a torch, a death' I was super confused

I was seeing a man with a flashlight

[tame tendon]

Wait im behind where did this come from??

[vale canyon]

I often think about HDS, clancy is in the back seat, without control of the car, "can you save my heavydirtysoul, for me" he's asking god to free him, but everytime the car passes josh, the car starts to break down until he's by his side. I take josh as the holy spirit, the guiding light towards salvation, the car being the father, as the original path, and the prodigal son, clancy

[vale canyon]

It was in the clancy's letter about inferno

[safe spade]

Also I was looking at the mashups they did for the livestream and the Choker/Stressed Out/Migraine/Morph/Holding Onto You mashup and the Saturday/Level of Concern/Ride/Car Radio mashups feel relevant

[silk bolt]

In that sacred municipality book they put Clancy almost as a ghost behind an inferno directly next to the heavy.jpg

[safe spade]

Whoa that journal is bigger than I expected

[vale canyon]

"I'm terrified and excited" makes sense about creating and inferno and being afraid of burning

[silk bolt]

Yea this morning I was like wait

They're being intentional I might have missed something

[small turtle]

This is fairly unrelated but speaking of connections between songs--I was in church this morning and the sermon was on the parable of the Prodigal Son. The pastor said he'd done some research into the word 'prodigal' and though we tend to think of it as either meaning someone who has run away/been self-indulgent and sinful, or as someone who has come home/come back to God seeking forgiveness, the word actually means wasteful, 'given to extravagant expenditure', or...LAVISH.

[silk bolt]

I know I didn't want to crease it but sacrifices

[small turtle]

Clancy refers to himself as the 'Prodigal son, done running,' in Overcompensate. And I doubt there's any connection but I just thought it was funny, particularly after the long line of 'lavish's in the fake setlist

[safe spade]

YO I saw that word when looking up Prodigal Son and was like 🥴

[vale canyon]

[small turtle]

I think probably the reference in Overcompensate is more about him being 'done running' and returning home but

it's still funny

[safe spade]

Very funny

[vale canyon]

So the big connections in this train of thought are: ghost, the rope, goner and the inferno, i could be missing stuff as i missed a bit of the full conversation

[small turtle]

ALTHOUGH--in that story, the 'father' whom the son returns to represents God and though Clancy doesn't know it he's been away from Torchbearer for a long time, and when he returns to Trench...who is waiting for him like the father in the story? Torchbearer.

[vale canyon]

They're one and the same, the father and holy spirit

[small turtle]

well yeah

I don't see Torchbearer as one of the Trinity but all three

There's been a lot of focus on the Holy Spirit stuff because of the 'ability to guide' and I see that but I really think he's an all-purpose God figure

Like...he's embodied, a man, like Jesus. There's the fire--God appears as the Pillar of Fire in the Old Testament. And then the 'ability to guide' (and the appearances when he is not physically there) puts one in mind of the Spirit.

[safe spade]

Zombies, death as well

#1213244361320439828 message wAIT 👀 WHY IS ONE OF THE SYMBOLS THE STRANGLER PHOTO

[small turtle]

symbols for what?

[safe spade]

Its at the bottom of FPE, its the regular |-/ symbol then that picture than FPE

[vale canyon]

"Why no one ever comes back with details from beyond"
Does the failed perimeter escapes end up strangled?

[silk bolt]

I would also like to point out we have never used the follow the torches hint ever have we

[safe spade]

Nope....I dont think so...

Also the last two letters arent signed by Clancy

[safe spade]

Maybe.....

[lean mango]

The main theory on this as far as I know is it's a reference to the Navigating video

[small turtle]

eesh

[small turtle]

well people tried to make something out of the torches in the PS MV didn't they?

so I could see it being something there or anywhere else there are torches

[safe spade]

The torches at the end of Navigating

[vale canyon]

Those are banditos i believe

You mean like something hidden in the torches?

[small turtle]

someone brought up Holding Onto You and also the fact that Clancy has a rope with him when he goes to confront Nico; I suppose it could end with him strangling Nico: 'sometimes to stay alive you have to kill your mind'. But I don't love that. Maybe he ties Nico to a tree. 🤣

[safe spade]

I think that was me kabsjs

[safe spade]

Yes!

[vale canyon]

This isnt a noose, this is a leash, "bad dog nico, bad dog" haha

[small turtle]

thanks for a full 30 seconds of out-loud snort-laughter

[vale canyon]

34 torches?

[vale canyon]

Glad to hear that

[safe spade]

Also"I wanna know you, I want to see, I want to say, Hello" > "I wanna be known by you" >> "Hello Clancy"

[vale canyon]

Dont let me be gone

Maybe it is nico asking clancy not to loose to himself

[silk bolt]

Also with this one that reads "fly by" in the double from overcompensate, right in front of our eyes, the numbers for the entry would be 6 on the left side and 30 on the right side

[small turtle]

that feels like the exact opposite of what Nico would do though??

[silk bolt]

Yeaaaa

[safe spade]

UMM

https://store.twentyonepilots.com/products/stand-ins-t-shirt

[vale canyon]

They're in fact the same person

I think

[sly hazel]

well yeah cuz that's their OC outfits

which they weren't actually there

[silk bolt]

Double confirmed

[safe spade]

Its the same as the album cover

[weak swallow]

because their merch term are lazy af this era and reused assets for literally every piece of merch rather than making good merch designs

[ocean socket]

Maybe tyler is a stand in for clancy this kinda random but, during this album or atleast the events of the paladin mv, potentially the recent letters to since they aren't signed clancy

[lean mango]

Is that shirt new?

[vale canyon]

Every other letters are signed by clancy?

Could be some links between the letters that aren't signed by clancy

[small turtle]

how would that confirm a double album?

is that a joke or am I missing something or...

[vale canyon]

I think he refers to them being a doble, as they aren't really them, clancy was seizing someone and josh was just the projection, the guidence power from bandito torchbearer

[small turtle]

I think...that's up for debate? The way I have always seen it is that yes, they are the same, but is that Nico is the part of Tyler who is bent on self-destructive tendencies and negative thoughts/anxiety and Clancy is the part who fights. But within the world, within the allegory, I don't think it's clear if they're the same or not.

[lean mango]

probably joke, but yea, a double is kind of a synonym for a stand-in (though they're not exactly the same)

a stand-in replaces the actor only for setup as far as I know

[safe spade]

Wait......

[lean mango]

they can be referred to as lighting doubles

[vale canyon]

Also true. They have confronted many times and other people also have seen nico. I don't know if clancy mentions how is nico with the dema citizens

[safe spade]

People pointed out some of the double images in Digital Remains are slightly different 👀

[small turtle]

And in any case, it doesn't make sense to me that Nico would be the one encouraging him to live. He's the one who's always urging him to commit to Vialism, right? I guess...I just don't see him being the one telling Clancy not to lose to himself.

[small turtle]

yeah exactly

[silk bolt]

It was more or less a joke , but stand in I was joking that it's a stunt double so like joking that if there are two then there's two albums

[safe spade]

Pages 64 and 102

[vale canyon]

And also tyler have mentioned that blurryface (album) is the presentation of the antagonist, trench the world and clancy the protagonist. That's why my train of thought about nico asking clancy. And that part of goner could also being interpreted as nico saying " the ghost of you is close to me" (nico confronts the corpse of clancy being seized) "I'm inside out, you're underneath" (nico being in the tower, original clancy buried)

[fleet pier]

Are we cooking today?

[safe spade]

Yes! We may be finally cooking

[fleet pier]

What have a missed so far?

[vale canyon]

This and zombies and torches

[safe spade]

#1213244361320439828 message basically everything after this

So I wasn't really around for the SAI livestream, but I was looking at an archive for the era and this caught my attention:

For the shows they did it also it also had 5 dots and the Fan Exhibit has 11 dots I think......

[safe spade]

I found this https://www.reddit.com/r/twentyonepilots/comments/1b5oanz/clancy_era_assets_40_files/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[silk bolt]

Yea the shows had 5 dots that's how we figured out they were gonna do 5 shows all together before they announced how many

Dang we should of picked up on these dots alot sooner

It really is 11 songs

[night pond]

okay why do we think there is a double album

i read above, still confused

[olive plume]

mostly tyler and FBR going “does this sound like the end?” when talking about the last song/video that’s meant to wrap up this story

so not necessarily a double album, per se, but definitely something more is coming

[sly hazel]

1: PS isn't the end, very clearly
2: Tyler teased that it wasn't the end, and so has FBR
3: We have the "Clancy The Final Chapter 25" teaser they put out which basically confirms there is more to come
4: There has been many hints surrounding 11 and 14, 14 tracks on Clancy so far (if you count the single version of The Craving) so there could be 11 more songs to come
5: This is backed up by Tyler teasing the 13 song tracklist of the album with 13 commas on instagram, and then they used 11 periods on the FPE signs. Commas being a way of continuing a story, periods being a way to end it.
6: We know they have plans into 2026 and beyond for their tour, so even factoring in extra shows they add on after the first leg, they would just be repeating the tour again
7: Tyler mentioned the tour was a flashback, reminding us of why we fight right before we do. Which most have now interpreted as the tour being a quick flashback of Clancy's life and then we get the actual fight part after the tour
8: We have the lyrics to 2 scrapped songs, Drag Path which was teased directly by them in DR (and inverted which is very important to how they display things) and "Graffiti" which was transferred through the page in DR
9: If you want to go even crazier then Tyler's ADIGHRTNSND tweet also has 11 letters, some theorizing they are the letters of the start of each track from the second album
10: In general there just... hasn't been any answers for a lot of things, they specifically said this album would be the most up front lore wise and answer basically everything and leave us with a satisfying ending, of which none has happened so people are just honestly hoping we get more

[safe spade]

I just saw the "Feature Performance Event" logo has 9 dots...(obviously for the bishops)

[silk bolt]

Oooooooo see each one was on purpose I'm telling you that's what it is - don't know when but I'm not complaining 🤷

[night pond]

what is the Clancy The Final Chapter 25 teaser?

[safe spade]

Yeah I definitely think it means something

I forgot ALL about this from Trench Era

[DELINQUENT] Clancy vs. The Sacred Municipality of Dema

[devout mango]

#theories message

[worldly wigeon]

Are the perforations at the top what is on the left side of the last picture from DR?

[safe spade]

See.....I thought that looked weird it made me think of a film reel but it doesn't make sense in terms of the rest of the journal

[silk bolt]

Yea thought film reel too , like run out of film , "fin" cuz it's the last one

Like they're all on an actual physical cameral "roll" and that's the last one

[safe spade]

Or it made me think of film (camera film) which they did use for a lot of photos for this album cycle

[neat vapor]

"drowning in logistics"
legal court case battle
battle against dema
logistics of the lore
logistics of releasing another album
all the references to other songs

[safe spade]

Maybe Clancy IS a zombie climbing out of his grave??? "Its a tribute to zombie, to which I've become"

or at least something about rising from the dead

[safe spade]

I've been yelling about a trial forever! Also, it can even go back to The Judge.....

There are also lyrics in DR about a tampered Witness and "Dont put me on trial"

[cosmic jewel]

I have missed a lot. What's this text about? i know is form DR but nothinh more than this

[vital arrow]

Has anyone laid the double images over each other to see if they line up differently? I would, but I only have my phone 😥

[safe spade]

We started here #1213244361320439828 message

[cosmic jewel]

thank you!

[devout mango]

Have we put together all the weird eye pictures somewhere? There's so many of them, and I'll do it, but all I got is this janky android 😭

[safe spade]

#1213244361320439828 message Well for this one its cropped in and theres like something on Josh's side

[silk bolt]

"My trial was filed as a crazy suicidal head case"

He started pointing back to a lot of self titled stuff recently too

So that theme has always been in play technically

[safe spade]

Oooo I forgot about that line!

[neat vapor]

i personally think all the planning has been in an effort to make a sort of timeline when the album songs from blurryface, trench, sai and clancy are overlaid with each other, a "true" timeline of events if you will, idk if vessel would also play into this timeline but maybe

[vital arrow]

Might be my phone, but when you scroll in on pg 11 of DR it sort of pixelates in a weird way. None of the other pictures do that when I zoom in.

[signal spruce]

Wait does this mean that within the lore “Few Proud Emotional” started as the rebel’s rebrand of the bishops labeling those they captured “Failed Perimeter Escape” ? If so I definitely missed that in trench and that’s cute

[safe spade]

YES!!!!! "Once zoomed in, the symbol states: “We shall call our label of delinquince [sic] by a new name. This is who we are, and let us never be ashamed by the penalty placed upon us by false authorities.” The comparison was pointed out by a fan after looking at dmaorg.info. While it stands for “failed perimeter escape” badge, the Banditos reclaim it as the few, the proud and the emotional, which first appeared in the Blurryface-era track, “Fairly Local” (“Even if my clique were to pick and the people were to vote/It’s the few, the proud and the emotional”)."

https://www.altpress.com/twenty-one-pilots-bandito-experience-dema-trench-reveals/

[safe spade]

I think you may be right!! Like it feels like some of the story is almost out of order?

[signal spruce]

I love that so much 😭

That also makes Nico using it hurt so much more

[vital arrow]

I’m just gonna throw this out there as well. DEMA is in blue flames when Tyler and imaginary Josh are still on Voldsoy on the outside video.

[safe spade]

Maybe they were summoning more zombies?? 🫠

[jade mantle]

The more that we see the more I feel like there are too many plot holes.

I don’t know if there ever will be a satisfying ending because I don’t think the story was super clear from the “starting point”

Nor sure how the Outside Video would end in flames if Paladin wasn’t?

[lean mango]

I see it a couple of possible ways

depending on how it plays out, some of these things could just be considered small inconsistencies/oversights

or, they're setting up for a twist that will explain most or all of them

[devout mango]

#theories message

[small turtle]

yeah, like he's throwing it back in Clancy's face. Which makes sense of him using it--and yes, it also makes it hurt a lot more.

[safe spade]

Wait.....in Leave The City he talks about how he "In Time" will leave the city......but it sounds like he hasn't left yet

but in Scaled And Icy he's trapped again....

OHHH Ok hold on now

"The last few words on “Leave the City” are ‘they know what I mean.’ That song, not only is it inside of the narrative, but in that narrative, I knew that I needed to leave somewhere, and start a journey in this point in-between two places that a lot of us can find ourselves in. Whatever version of that fits into your life, we’re always trying to dance in-between those two places. How do we get there? And it’s scary, and you don’t know what to expect, and it’s kind of hard to see. But this record is about pushing through and starting that, starting that journey between those two places."

[neat vapor]

two places, like "So beautiful, the space between, A painful reminder and a terrible dream"?

[safe spade]

Yep!!

[neat vapor]

wouldnt that make trench the hallway in the mv?

[safe spade]

I guess so?? but to be fair he's "inside his head" during all of this so you might be right....

[neat vapor]

https://discord.com/channels/269657133673349120/1256423683560312882 linking my wip theory from a few days ago

the albums Cycle is the terrible dream

[safe spade]

Yess I also have my own Dream/sleep theory let me give my thoughts in your thread

[tame tendon]

A trench in a way is a hallway, being surrounded by all sides except the place you need to go

[safe spade]

I will say its interesting the blue room has yellow flowers

Oh also about Leave The City: I'm tired of tending to this fire
I've used up all I've collected
I have singed my hands
It's glowing
Embers barely showing
Proof of life in the shadows
Dancing on my plans

The burning is so low it's concerning
'Cause they know that when it goes out
It's a glorious gone
It's only time before they show me
Why no one ever comes back with details from beyond

Im losing track but someone in theories or in here said the order of the album might be: Trench, Scaled and Icy, Clancy then Blurryface

[neat vapor]

its very strange though cause its sounds like navigating leads into my blood

plus the line from Navigating "How things change so rapidly." (blurryface)
"I find my self-esteem" (trench)
"Then turn so cold." (scaled and icy)

[safe spade]

OHHHH 👀

Midwest Indigo has a callback to Ride, so does Next Semester and Snapback (also the lyrics you can be so cold)

OHH and in Next Semester when Tyler is jumping out of the way, Josh is in the street like he was in HDS

[olive plume]

i don’t mean to shut this down when i ask this but how would this make sense? logistically? is it just to make the “ending” be Goner? (this is the first i’ve heard of this theory, i think)

(with the albums being out of order, that is)

[lean mango]

There's a whole thread on Goner being the ending, not sure if you've looked at that

but idk

I don't really understand any of the "things are out of order" theories personally, like, they can be interesting to think about but I don't see them having a lot of likelihood of actually being the intended interpretation

it feels like that wouldn't do anything of benefit besides obfuscating the intended takeaway of the story, the "message"

which for Tyler is just as important or more than the lore itself

[olive plume]

i have! and i just reread it to refresh my memory. i’m not sure how i feel about it

[neat vapor]

yeah i also dont believe things are out of order as well tbh, especially on relisten, its just feels like theres holes that other parts fill in a way if that makes sense

[safe spade]

Well the out-of-order theories started over the tracklist and there IS in DR an alternative tracklist but in terms of the "story" I think it's less about taking away from Tyler's message because at the end of the day, all of it is pretty woven together and about mental health, but I think its more about the actual narrative and some songs from other albums fit in different places so its interesting to maybe piece it together in a different way (because there are songs that are "Lore" based which aren't apart of the "Official Story" (at least the one told in I Am Clancy)

[safe spade]

Oh also I guess story-wise you normally start with world-building and then dig into characters so if we consider that, Trench would be first then maybe Clancy, SAI then Blurryface but probably mix up songs from each album especially if we add in Self-Titled, Vessel and RAB

because songs from all those albums fit into the narrative of Trench being his mental state and Tyler's acknowledged that....

[tough timber]

the out of order theories are interesting, but i don't really want to believe that they would end the story on a negative note because of the themes related to mental health and perseverance it wouldn't make a lot of sense to end the story negatively imo

like so much of their music is about staying alive and life being worth it i'm inclined to think there will be a hopeful end if not an outright "victory"

[safe spade]

oh for sure! but I also think Goner (Blurryface version) is him winning the battle but Josh did say the ending will be divisive' 👀

[tough timber]

i definitely see it as fighting with blurryface, insecurity, etc. and i that "ending will be divisive" thing has been bothering me too

[safe spade]

Also Im rewatching that interview where he says that and he says the story basically goes back to when him and Tyler meet

which is a LONG ass time

[small turtle]

to be honest, I feel like any ending is going to be divisive at this point

there are always people who get mad about endings

but the fact that he said that has been bothering me as well

[safe spade]

Also he mentioned closing CHAPTERS

[small turtle]

whhhhaat

[safe spade]

https://youtu.be/opDpD7grD8A?si=9PvM7eYKsOPCEpnW&t=155

[silk bolt]

Well people want it to be like winners and losers but it's really all about mental health so in the end it's going to be about acceptance and living with the "dark parts of your heart" and learning how to find the hope in the midst of it. So the final ending isn't so much of full on defeating them but taking control of them because it represents his mind

"I created this world , to feel some control"

[small turtle]

the thing is though mental health battles and victories are so different for everyone and so we all have found different ways of coping, so it's going to be hard for people not to read their own experience into it

and also, yes, it is about one guy's mind, but it's also a story, and it's hard to not want a story--especially not a story so explicitly about good and evil--to have a resolution in which the bad guys lose

so it's going to be a really tricky balance, I think

[safe spade]

and thats why its crazy they said this is the ending WHEN ITS NOT

[tame tendon]

Fr

[tough timber]

agreed! maybe that's why the ending is divisive? bc they have to balance the personal meaning with the fictional parts of the story

[tough timber]

i don't get that either but it'll probably maybe make sense eventually lol I'm holding on tight to that one interview where tyler said the end is after clancy + the tweet that said the show is not the final battle as proof that there's more to come still

[reef oxide]

Also eyes in ps teaser blinking

[silk bolt]

Speaking of ghost from the tweet and goner that we deduced from way back in this thready, how did I forget the main lyrics

The ghost of you is close to me

[waxen meteor]

im very late to chime in to this but regarding the timeline of goner's creation, it's hard to be 100% sure since you can never fully guarantee a source's validity, but supposedly some versions of NPI had an instrumental demo version of goner. here is that version, that at least one person (again, unknown how reliable their claim is) says they ripped off of their NPI CD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJJ9BGb8smg, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KaTxe7Fqgk

the version with lyrics and such was never on NPI, that's a myth

however, it's unknown at what point between NPI and 2012 the song was fully written, and whether the version with accordion + noose was the 'original' (if the instrumental demo is legit, it does not have the accordion + noose-- but with that said, the first official release of the song in 2012 did have the accordion + noose)

[plush island]

NOOOW THEY PIN THE DOUBLE ALBUM THEORY 😂 BEEN A DOUBLE ALBUM TRUTHER SINCE SAI ERA AND THAT ONE INTERVIEW TYLER DID

(Don't mind me I'm leaving dumb comments to try and get to level 15 so I can add a song role)

[celest dust]

Not to open a whole 'nother can of worms, but are we sure it's Dema in the back here? I feel like it's way to high, like it looks like it's on a mountain whereas in the PS music video, Dema seems to be in a valley. Also, if you Zoom in it looks like something is spiralling around the main tower in the middle, and there only really seems to be one tower? None of this corresponds to what we already know about Dema

The blue fire would make sense given that when Keons (seized by Clancy) throws down the lights, a blue fire starts. This is confusing haha

[safe spade]

Oooooo wait that reminds me of something....

[small turtle]

The Disney Castle?

lol

sorry

[celest dust]

Dema = Disney 🤯

[small turtle]

for real. evil empire

burnt Star Wars fan here

[celest dust]

Oh man don't even get me started on that

[small turtle]

ok, back to TOP...

no need for tangents

[safe spade]

Its one of the logos for SAI

[small turtle]

I can't even tell what that's supposed to be

[celest dust]

Another thing I was just thinkg about - this shot of the PS video stood out to me because I felt like the importance of from which direction the Banditos came from is important. What if it's the same for the 'burning Dema' shot in the Outside MV? Like, in which direction are Clancy and the Torchbearer looking from Voldsoy? And from which direction are they marching down to Dema?

[small turtle]

looks like a globe being strangled by a snake

[safe spade]

Its a globe with what I assume is trash wrapped around it

[small turtle]

ooooh

[small turtle]

well, if you look on the map, Voldsoy is sorta southeast of Dema

[safe spade]

I think theres something about the city being gray and drab with not alot of color which is why SAI was so colorful so it makes senes that where the banditos came from has more....sun and color....if that makes sense

[small turtle]

But that doesn't necessarily mean they came from that direction right before the fight

[celest dust]

No I don't think that's the case. I assumed they would arrive from Trench, so from the East (or 'our' North). And then Clancy enters the middle tower on the part of Dema, I think it's Sacarver's

So red dot is where the banditos are at the end of Outside and the arrow is how I think they marched down (based on the rivers seen in the background from the tower in the PS music video)

Not sure if at all relevant, but I was wondering if there's any significance to which tower Clancy climbs up from, and why all the Bishops would be gathered there

[cloud lynx]

I'm not sure but I believe it was Nico's tower

And the bishops were doing some kind of seizing ritual
But yeah, could be cool to explain more about that

[celest dust]

I think Nico's tower is in the West (our 'South', so towards Port Vial), not sure if that would work

[cloud lynx]

hmm

[celest dust]

Do you happen to have a link to the commas post that you mentioned in point 5? Can't find it

[safe spade]

https://www.instagram.com/p/C36yfIwOYiX/?igsh=MWhpNDd2dXE2YnF4

tylerrjoseph

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[celest dust]

Clancy The Final / Chapter Twenty Five -> CTFCTF? Just realised it's repeating the same letters

[safe spade]

👀

Lol wait, Clancy, Torchbearer, Fire

[celest dust]

Lol 🤔

[signal spruce]

It’s also 6 words again 😭

[shell kite]

so… what’s the consensus now? theory is wrong or that it’s june 2025?

[rancid delta]

ctf capture the flag

ah yes

[long rose]

@lean mango has a theory that I agree with, and that is that with so much delay the original 6/25 plan was probably dragged down by that delay as well

[celest dust]

Not too far off 🤣

“CTF” is commonly known as an abbreviation for “Capture The Flag,” a type of cybersecurity competition where participants try to find hidden “flags” (pieces of data) by solving various challenges.

So what hidden flags have we not found yet? Digital Remains? Tyler's latest tweet (the one that repeats "Lavish")?

[safe spade]

👀

Also I HATE AI buuuttt

[celest dust]

"Digital Remains" -> "Dema is trailing"

[safe spade]

UMMMM

[celest dust]

Suggesting Dema is losing its influence?

[safe spade]

DRAG PATH

[celest dust]

Ohhhhhhhh

BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

[safe spade]

Well its the only lyric page inverted and its page 65

[rancid delta]

I said capture the flag as a joke what

Lol. Lmao even.

[vital arrow]

I was just thinking about the actual definition of Digital Remains yesterday, I’m glad you brought this up 🔝

[olive plume]

my initial reaction was that they named it the digital remains because it’s all we have left of dema since the physical artifacts of it have been destroyed

digital remains are prepared like a will, based on my understanding. so, thinking about it like that, clancy gave this to us in the event he were to die. but he didn’t die

and i know people thought that the box included in the DR was clancy’s coffin because it included his outfit and some rope but now we know it was just used as transportation

and the last image has clancy literally climbing out of a grave/burial site surrounded by hay. probably the top of the towers, if dema still utilizes the burial grounds in that way from when the vultures would feed off the dead. i know they bury their dead now but they might still find use for those pits

clancy (metaphorical) resurrection arc incoming (again)

[signal spruce]

I was also originally thinking digital remains was the remains of Dema but it being like Clancy’s will is making me lose it 😭

[vital arrow]

I always wondered what is to the right of him in this image.

[safe spade]

Me too!!

[olive plume]

i think it might be josh’s arm

like he’s got it twisted around

and he’s leaning forward

[safe spade]

It reminds me of that shoot of Josh climbing out of the....ditch/trench in Oldies Station 👀

[small turtle]

wait where did 'Dema is trailing' come from

[shadow cipher]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 1!

[silk bolt]

Same I stared at it yesterday after we talked about it for a solid 30 minutes

[silk bolt]

Btw "welcome back" which he highlighted with the .: :. On each side , is 11 letters

[safe spade]

Hmmm

Does anyone find the slow zoom ins in Oldies Station kinda creepy....

Like very unsettling

[small turtle]

https://www.instagram.com/tylerrjoseph/p/C5WJfREunh2/ So I was looking at this--I'm not on Instagram so I don't normally see this kind of thing--but do they normally play things from pre-Vessel at their concerts? Or is it noteworthy that he's listed out all their early stuff?

[safe spade]

They sometimes do but its like 3/4 of the same songs for the most part

[small turtle]

Like I've heard they tend to do Trees last

But I wasn't sure about other stuff

ok but I guess Trees is technically on Vessel even though he made an earlier version

forget I said that

[safe spade]

Well for Bandito tour they played Taxi Cab, Icy tour they did a mashup including Addict With A Pen and Forest