Double Album Confirmed

[open bluff]

Oh yeah last time something major happened I opened discord just as everyone started going crazy lmao

[small turtle]

fingers crossed!!!

see ya

[open bluff]

See ya!

[brazen leaf]

I’m holding out until the very end of the day

it’s either today or 2025

[plain lion]

imagine they do some shit at 11:59pm

[robust pike]

6:25 pm est

[cedar cradle]

🤡

[boreal portal]

we're cooked.

[worldly wigeon]

I'll respectfully disagree, but I do see how it could seem that they made it up as they went.

[sly hazel]

If they planned it from the start then the video would've been ready from the start

Which it wasn't

[brazen leaf]

how do you know it was created a day before tho

[fallow violet]

i think someone also found in the code or somewhere when they uploaded the teaser to the page, it wasnt there until earlier that day, i think what might've happened is that it was delayed and they couldnt say much because of the studio, then saw what we were doing with the puzzle and joined in on the fun, i actually find that cute

[sly hazel]

The file tells you in the metadata

[brazen leaf]

ah ok

that’s interesting then

[sly hazel]

It was created on the 19th
Uploaded to dmaorg on the morning of the 20th

[olive plume]

25 truthers rise up

[brazen leaf]

hm

[brazen leaf]

already risen and WAITING

[sly hazel]

Which means that plan wasn't even a thing they considered until the last minute

[brazen leaf]

ig

[fallow violet]

maybe they did plan to tweet something with blurryface though

[brazen leaf]

but could they not have had the teaser made somewhere else like

[fallow violet]

i think the blurryface activity happened before we started doing the puzzle

[brazen leaf]

does the data tell you the exact date they actually created it

[fallow violet]

like the sai tweet being deleted

[sly hazel]

I think they planned to do something with BF before the video released yeah

I just think they saw the DR puzzle and rolled with it cuz it gave them an easy teaser

[fallow violet]

so we wouldve gotten something regardless but this was really fun

[sly hazel]

Yes it's the 19th at like 7pm

[brazen leaf]

so ur saying they the digital remains was an accidental puzzle?

that’s crazy

imagine if it was all just accidentally connected

[sly hazel]

I think DR was just a basic behind the scenes booklet of stylized images they created and wanted to put out
They saw us start freaking out and gave us a teaser because the video was finally ready and they didn't want everyones work to go to waste

[fallow violet]

i mean since it wasnt meant to be one it didnt end up connecting beyond a few pages at a time, but we never figured out how they all connect together

[sly hazel]

^

Only a few really make sense

[olive plume]

yeah, i was wondering what we were supposed to find anyway, once we did manage to find all the matching pages. i didn’t see how anything could be revealed, beyond showing off how much the clique enjoys collages

and the violation code we really needed anyway was in blurry’s new twitter header and he could have given that to us anyway. so i think that was the plan but they wanted to loop in the fans to make it More Fun

[worldly wigeon]

All I'm going to say is that you shouldn't trust the 'metadata' of a file's created date as proof that they created the video the day before.
I have a file created here. tty was modified on 10/26/2023, tty - Copy was created today as a copy/paste. See it's modified date is the same

Then if you look at the properties of the file, the created date has changed.

Created/Modified dates aren't reliable when it comes to operating systems. Especially if you are transferring files between cloud servers

[sly hazel]

Except that's not the date you should look at
That's your OS date of the file
Not the date in the actual file

Upload it to any metadata site and it will read the initial created date

Either way, if they planned something to come out of DR then the video they created should have been made and ready by the time DR released
And also be uploaded to dmaorg there for us to find
Which it wasn't until the 19th/20th

[worldly wigeon]

See that is where I think everything was ready. But they didn't upload anything until we were close enough.

I'm sure over the years people have been pounding that site with number sequences trying to find another site. If you put it up right when DR is released, it's entirely possible that someone finds the teaser without any 'puzzling'

[sly hazel]

Eh people had pieced the 4 images together weeks ago, we just didn't know what to do with them until BF gave us the hint
And he couldn't give us the hint without the video being ready
Which it very likely wasn't hence the delay on release

[worldly wigeon]

I totally see your point and where your coming, I'm just going to disagree that they didn't scramble to finish this thing like people have made it seem. It was ready at the livestream but they wanted to make us work for it

Can you show me proof that people pieced those 4 images together before? I don't doubt it, I just haven't seen it before we went nuts over it

[sly hazel]

Yeah quite easily, I did it myself like 3 days after DR released
People were doing it time ago

If they wanted to hide something like that, they would've given us a bit more of a hint to find whatever it was
We had no idea what to do with it, and never would've figured it out with BF hints

It's very likely the video was delayed in production, they missed the deadline and then when the video was ready they gave us that DR teaser because it was the easiest way to give us a little something since we were already doing it

[worldly wigeon]

Fair enough. I won't argue anymore because neither of us know the facts.

[winged sapphire]

hai

any

[winged sapphire]

we need to

freak out

again

[sly hazel]

At this point I think they know we are expecting something today

[winged sapphire]

trust?

[sly hazel]

They might just give us something random if they didn't plan anything

[winged sapphire]

fun facts with josh dun

[ripe wharf]

I feel like 3pm est would be a logical time to reach most people in their fan base with time zone differences

Who knows though. I do feel like if they had nothing planned for today originally they might at least hint at something today because they know how many fans are holding onto today as something

[modern atlas]

yeah albums usually release 12am EST I think

[pure timber]

Today is the day guys

Today or nothing

[tropic oracle]

NOTHING

sorry

i want smth so bad but like

not holding out hope i fear

[pure timber]

If it’s not today it should be 2025, 1 year after clancy therefore technically ‘breaking the cycle’ of their 3 year release schedule

[wraith gulch]

It’s only 10am.

[olive plume]

for real

they released paladin at 3 in the afternoon

we have time

[brazen leaf]

it’s today or 2025

[hexed haven]

Yep 😬

[brazen leaf]

😔

[shell kite]

imagine there’s something planned for today but it’s a puzzle we once again somehow missed

[olive plume]

could we even clown until 6/28 since that’s the track length for paladin strait and it’s also a friday

[sly hazel]

If BF just tweets "HELLO CLANCY" today I will swim to Tylers house

[wraith gulch]

I’m down

[copper tide]

im an impatient silly little man tho, i cant wait that long

[jaunty valve]

Across the Paladin Strait?

[sly hazel]

across the atlantic ocean

[proud plover]

Simone Weil? i dont think we have an exact time

i can look it up tho

[ripe sorrel]

skibidi strait is going to be my new favourite

[onyx phoenix]

It’s the Lavash shirts that they were teasing for 6/25. Now it all makes sense 😂

[uneven badge]

Chat were cooked

[sly hazel]

still very very early in the day

[fleet pier]

I lose hope every minute that goes by

[small turtle]

Somebody message Tyler and Josh 'What's your ETA?'

[lean mango]

Why?

[grave fiber]

I fear this might be the truth

[lean mango]

it's not even noon in Ohio

They rarely release new music before 1 pm

even if it's just an announcement it could be anytime until like 3

and if Blurry's doing something, could be anytime before midnight

[fallow violet]

yeah that is true like the highest chance is in an hour

[small turtle]

why an hour?

[grave fiber]

I feel like out of anything we will get a super ominous blurryface tweet

Something with that account has to happen otherwise why go back and change it

[olive plume]

they usually release music around 1 in the afternoon and that’s in an hour

[small turtle]

oh dear

I'm going to vibrate for the next hour

[olive plume]

but they’ve dropped things at 2 and 3 before so we have more chances

[small turtle]

I've heard that 3 is likely from others

[grave fiber]

I can’t remember if the Paladin video we found via puzzle was accessible before the date it was found or when it was uploaded for us to find

That just makes me worry something else is also already out there

[sly hazel]

It was uploaded to dmaorg the morning we found it

[small turtle]

maybe, if that's the case and nothing is found by the end of the day, they'll give us a hint

[sly hazel]

the teaser video wasn't even created until the night before

DR was likely never intended to be a puzzle at all and they just used our collective delusions to give us something to make up for the delay

If there was something out there to find, they'd have hinted at it already

[small turtle]

right, but I'm saying that maybe today is the first day that it's there to find, and we'll be given a hint later

[sly hazel]

I mean maybe so, we'll never know until they do hint at it

can't really expect to find something if you don't know what you're looking for

[small turtle]

yeah

I'm going to force myself to stay off the internet for the next two hours

This sitting around in suspense is killing me

hopefully when I come back this chat will have blown up

plus I have things to do

[rancid gust]

Anything happen yet???

I haven’t been on here today

[lean mango]

nope, not so far

[ripe sorrel]

still waiting the longer these men take the more i believe it’s gonna be a 2025 second album

[uneven badge]

Im in europe so I dont have any idea how late it is for them😂

[lean mango]

Even if it doesn't happen today, I'll still consider a week delay or something more likely than 2025

but we'll see

[sudden hawk]

It is almost 1pm EST (Ohio time).

[grave fiber]

It is 1pm

Everyone is realllll silent

[wintry patrol]

All they’d have to do is say “not today” and we’ll know to move on lolol

[tired halo]

[open bluff]

If they said not today people will probably overanalyze that song lmao

[wintry patrol]

CRAP very true

[gritty bear]

25 must mean we’re getting 4 more pilots

[wraith gulch]

I’m on a scenic drive just chilling and patiently waiting.

[wary oak]

I think nothing is going to happen

[fleet pier]

I think your right sadly

[floral holly]

no we beileve

trust

[long rose]

The day has not ended

[lean mango]

Not even close yet

I'll give up at 11:15

[boreal portal]

we are cooked

[sudden hawk]

"heard you say, not today, TORE THE CURTAINS DOWN, WINDOWS OPEN, NOW MAKE A SOUND"

📣 📣 📣 📣

[hot stream]

Nothing new?

[sudden hawk]

not yet

baited breath rn

[storm iron]

I’m losing hope.

[wise sparrow]

If not today, I will change my focus to the 28th (just because a Friday makes a little more sense). If not the 28th I’m afraid we are probably going to be waiting until 2025 🥲

[stuck frigate]

On second thought it actually would make more sense for 2025 bc they dont want to overshadow clancy

[rancid delta]

Wouldn't really be a "double album" at that point though

[modern atlas]

right

[rancid delta]

Plus why tease it out so far? I just don't get it

[lean mango]

If not today I lose a lot of hope, because today was the obvious Implication of the clues

[modern atlas]

they already teased it with PS, so the date is more of a confirmation

[golden igloo]

6/25 bros..

its over

[modern atlas]

of WHEN it will come

[rancid delta]

Not until midnight est

[modern atlas]

it could be 3pm 🤓

or it could be 6:25pm

[rancid delta]

I'll even hold out til Friday

[silk bolt]

Wouldn't an announcement at 3 make sense and coming out 6/28 make sense

[modern atlas]

at 62 seconds and 5 milliseconds

[silk bolt]

Cuz hello clancy was 6/25 and it ended 6/28

[rancid delta]

6:25pm est

[modern atlas]

no cause of the running screenshot

[silk bolt]

Valid

[modern atlas]

but that’s 18:25 military time 😡😡

[sleek pendant]

or the same time the last post of the blurryface era was posted

the one with tyler washing the blurry paint off

[modern atlas]

what time was that

[sleek pendant]

somewhere around 11:30pm est i think

sorry

11:14pm est

[rancid delta]

If it does happen in 2025 I can't really call it a double album. Being over a year after clancy dropped. Just no.

I'd also say it would be false advertising calling clancy "the end" if this is the case

(For the very little advertising they had)

[sleek pendant]

well if it’s a deluxe edition it would still technically be clancy

just with new songs

[rancid delta]

Over a year after the original drop though? Meh

It would be it's own thing at that point

[fathom charm]

I agree with ya

[sleek pendant]

noah kahan dropped a deluxe edition almost a year after and then dropped another deluxe 2 years after

[rancid delta]

Unless it was just one or two songs. But why wait a year then???

[sleek pendant]

it’s not common, but it’s plausible

[rancid delta]

So dumb

I'd say to classify as a double album it would have to be within a year

Not a year+

[sleek pendant]

yeah but i’m saying deluxe

i never said it would be a double

[rancid delta]

Also another reason I can't see it happening in June of 2025? Blurryface's 10th anniversary is the month before. I know damn well FBR is probably gonna try and milk the shit out of BF10

And, yet again, leave no marketing for this supposed second album

[sleek pendant]

it can draw more attention to the band in time for new music

[rancid delta]

Do you really think FBR would advertise it? They didn't here. They would only care about blurry because of its successes

[sleek pendant]

they barely advertised clancy as a whole so

[rancid delta]

Exactly

The band would literally be better off shadow dropping it

[open bluff]

FBR not advertising confuses me a lot

[sleek pendant]

what i said had no correlation to fbr advertising though

i was saying it can lead people in to listening more

and then they’d get the new songs

fbr have no connection with that

if they’re milking bf10

[rancid delta]

I just don't see them doing it. Would be a very risky move

[sleek pendant]

they did neon gravestones

[rancid delta]

At least have more time away from it then a month after

Green Day put out Dookie's 30th anniversary MONTHS before it actually was time so their new album Saviors could shine properly

[rancid gust]

Well it’s only 2:30 Ohio time. If I was them I’d do it at 6:25

Pm

[cloud lynx]

eh, can happen sometimes

artists sometimes do release "part two"'s or deluxes one year or two after the initial release

[burnt scarab]

June 25 next year is on a Wednesday

[stuck frigate]

Imagine they tweet something out at 11:59 PM

[cloud lynx]

oh they'd be capable of that

lmao

[tame tendon]

Is this a reference to the progressive rock trio Green Day

[uneven badge]

14may is last tour concert, it would be a bit fast to drop a deluxe half a month later no...?

[fair dirge]

At least we already know the final battle won't happen on the tour

[warm plover]

3 PM, 6:25 PM or bust

[cosmic jewel]

hello, something new? i was off for like 5 hrs

[warm plover]

Nada

[stable badge]

I don’t think so

[cosmic jewel]

ok

[cosmic jewel]

3pm is gone

[modern atlas]

womp womp

[small turtle]

6:25 PM is still a possiblity

they must have intended SOMETHING with all their hinting...

[small turtle]

would it be kind of them though

I'm in the UK...that won't be until tomorrow morning for me! I don't think I can sleep until we know something

[modern atlas]

an ode to sleep or a lack thereof

[small turtle]

lol

'I'll keep my eyelids up no matter what'

CAUSE THE DARK'S NOT TAKING PRISONERS TONIGHTTTT

[cosmic jewel]

I'm in Italy, so really closew

[small turtle]

I'll be staying up at least until 6:25 EST

that's not too bad

[open bluff]

How many hours until 6.25 est?

[safe spade]

3 hours?

[cosmic jewel]

3 hours

[safe spade]

It COULD also happen at 5:26..

[rancid delta]

#1252689799597392014 not sure if its real but the red tape on the album covers may or may not be back

[open bluff]

Yeah that’s midnight for me lmao

[rancid delta]

just checked apple music its not there for me. weird.

[modern atlas]

what does this link to

[modern atlas]

not on spotify

what is it on?

[rancid delta]

a chat. someone shared a screenshot that the red tape was back but it mightve been a mistake

[modern atlas]

no offense to them but they have an older phone

so they may be receiving updates slower

[rancid delta]

thats what im thinking now. maybe they had it downloaded to their device and it just never updated

mine automatically updated though even though everything was downloaded so idk

[fallow violet]

red tape sometimes still pops up for me on spotify but i think its because of downloads offline maybe theres still some cache leftovers there or something, it usually shows just for a few seconds

[cosmic jewel]

for me too

[open bluff]

Ayy fellow west-european

[lunar slate]

Idk if anyone has mentioned this but, as stated in the Vessel 10th anniversary livestream, the band sees Vessel as their debut album, making the list: 1. Vessel, 2. Blurryface, 3. Trench, 4. SAI, 5. Clancy. I am personally a believer in the June 25th theory, but I think that the fact that the 6 could refer to the 6th “official” album coming out in 2025 puts some credibility to that theory. Hopefully not, but just food for thought, been thinking about that possibility for a while

[safe spade]

Funny you mention that because sites keep calling Clancy their 7th album....so maybe that means they gotta revamp Self-Titled and Regional At Best....

[rancid delta]

the self titled disrespect 😦

(rab i understand)

[safe spade]

As in making it so Josh is apart of all their album........

[lunar slate]

Oh yeah, that’s true

I think self titled would be sick if they remastered it or remade it from the ground up or something, now that they have way more experience

[safe spade]

Especially with them playing more songs live!! I need it and revamped RAB because hearing all of that with Tyler's vocal range now would be AMAZING

[small turtle]

If nothing happens at 6:25, there was also the 7:33 that could be a hint

[long rose]

11:14

[small turtle]

that's past midnight for me but I might have to do it

[small turtle]

there was also an 11:14?

where did that come from?

[cloud lynx]

what time is it EST?

[small turtle]

right now?

[cloud lynx]

yes

right now, sry

lol

[small turtle]

right now it's...4:08

[cloud lynx]

oh

[small turtle]

PM

[cloud lynx]

we still got time

yeah yeah

it's uuuh

10:09 pm here

[small turtle]

oh it's nine PM for me

[cloud lynx]

UK?

[small turtle]

yeah

[cloud lynx]

innit

lol

[undone egret]

bruv

[small turtle]

I'm American but I'm studying here

[cloud lynx]

ooh i see

good luck with ur studies lol

[small turtle]

thanks; TOP has helped me get through but this week they've been a distraction!!

Like I said, if nothing happens at 6:25 EST I'll be staying up the extra hour for 7:33. And then I will be tired and sad if nothing happens because at that point it will be well past midnight

this is all well and good if you're in North America lol

but what about the rest of us

[lean mango]

If it's 11:14 PM it's early early morning for Europe but actually pretty decent for most other parts of the world, so maybe that

[sleek pendant]

4am at the earliest

yeah

i’m not staying up for that on a tuesday night

[pure timber]

We are cooked

[steep roost]

Soooooo basically there’s nothing?

[fleet pier]

Most likely

[steep roost]

Them wtf is “Clancy ultimate chapter”

[lean mango]

We will see

[steep roost]

Gulp

[lean mango]

There's a few hours left

[sudden hawk]

it's only 4:30 PM EST which is Ohio/TOP time

[steep roost]

Ig so

[vestal surge]

welp tour wraps up next may so maybe companion album in June? kinda makes it not as much of a double LP and also makes Clancy NOT the final chapter tho so idfk this band makes my brain hurt

[mellow stratus]

how we doing on this lovely 6/25 chat :((((

[waxen meteor]

7'33" in Josh's insta post could be a time, like 6/25 7:33pm

[waxen meteor]

Keeping my hopes as low as I can to avoid disappointment

[cosmic jewel]

story of my life

[novel bobcat]

Kind of thinking Clancy was the in between album and sai was made extra in the spur of the moment atp

[mellow stratus]

but then why is so much of Clancy about overcompensating

it just isn’t adding up 😭

[sudden hawk]

the ultimate overcompensating would be to create a deluxe or double album, jsjs

that's my thesis

[novel bobcat]

Overcompensating on its own isn’t even the problem honestly because it could be overcompensating for time lost sitting around instead of fighting the bishops, the bigger issue w Clancy being the in between is all the marketing saying it’d be the final one

[jade mantle]

Rip chat I’m big sad 😪✊

[vague jetty]

Is there anything we could be missing

Something unsolved in the digital remains?

[open bluff]

Ayy same

[weak swallow]

there wasnt anything to solve in digital remains in the first place tbf so i doubt it

[novel bobcat]

I honestly think it’s just a matter of waiting until June 2025 unfortunately

[quick mauve]

I'd disagree on that, since overlapping pages ended up being a key for the PS teaser

[fading pewter]

Tyler lurking this chat being disappointed rn

[weak swallow]

they 100% made that to apologise for delaying it

[fair dirge]

Hey did we solve the birds thing I mean the missing minute?

[brazen leaf]

what time is it in america

[sudden hawk]

it is 4:59 PM EST (Ohio time)

[brazen leaf]

or ohio

[novel bobcat]

We wouldn’t have been able to solve that without bf’s tweet, I think we were maybe seeing things that weren’t there and they saw and threw us a bone by making there be something there that originally wasn’t

[brazen leaf]

ok so we still have time until 6:25

[sudden hawk]

yup.

[weak swallow]

100%

[brazen leaf]

i still have some hope left

[weak swallow]

theres no way that it was a puzzle in the first place because we only needed to use 2 pages or something

[novel bobcat]

Yeah and the way it just happened to be the part we’d already put together too

[waxen meteor]

I believe this theory, and also find it impressive that if true, they edited and published the PS teaser in less than a week

[wary oak]

Nothing yet????

Omg

[wraith gulch]

Patience

[vale canyon]

It is 5pm for me

[violet zodiac]

its 4 pm for me 😭

[novel bobcat]

They definitely could have had some form of the teaser already ready and decided to add the censored part to put it in dmaorg. Like it could have been the original trailer or they could have been originally planning to just release it on social media the day before the trailer before deciding to hide it

[wary oak]

6 f me

[uneven badge]

11pm for me🥲 debating if I should stay awake

[sly hazel]

I think they just got the finished cut of PS on like the 18th, and quickly edited together the Dema stuff on the 19th
It wouldn't take long once you got the final video to just chop it up
like 2-3 hours max

[patent coral]

Same, I don't think anything is happening today

[long rose]

They could at least tell something, even a link with something cryptic and the year 2025 today

[patent coral]

they could but mark has been tweeting jokes all day and i've noticed the team doesn't typically post anything on announcement days until after the announcement

obviously that isn't total confirmation that nothing is coming but it is a pattern

[uneven badge]

What is his @?

[patent coral]

@/reelbearmedia

[uneven badge]

Why did they hint so much if nothing happens🥲 maybe 6.25pm🥲

[uneven badge]

Thanks

[patent coral]

It's possible but super unlikely atp

Here's hoping I'm wrong

I haven't toallly lost hope that something will happen by the end of th week but beyond that I think it's gonna be 2025

[languid crypt]

I’ve always thought 2025 made sense I do wish sooner than later. still find it odd they haven’t done any major interviews for the album yet

[long rose]

It makes sense but why so early? literally a day after after clancy came out was the FPE and the Clancy Ultimus Capitulus 25

[tame tendon]

What’s happening double albumers

[long rose]

Sup dude!

[uneven badge]

Absolutely nothing😭😭

[tame tendon]

Aw man 😕

[olive plume]

[ember sinew]

How do we feel about today ? Any guesses of an hour they could drop something ?

I won’t pardon his delay tbh

[sudden hawk]

it's currently 5:34 PM EST (Ohio time) and we are waiting for 6:25 PM

[tame tendon]

If there’s anything I see being dropped, its an announcement, either of a single, album, or maybe just something for the lore

[ember sinew]

Seems about right

[wary oak]

Nop, 2025 i tnk

June 2025 maybe

[ember sinew]

Very unlikely imo, why tease the next « era » a year in advance, with the thing taking the same name - Clancy ultimus capitulus ?

[tame tendon]

But if it’s 2025 why would they tease it now, before June 25th, unless it’s to just throw us off

[ember sinew]

Tour starts in August they have time to drop anything

[wary oak]

I think the same... but nothing happens

[ember sinew]

Flying to Chile rn, hope I’ll wake up and see new content when arriving

[ember sinew]

They’re messing with us. They know we’re waiting for something honestly it would feel a bit like a let down to drop nothing on 6/25

[wary oak]

Yo igual

[ember sinew]

What ??? What company 😭

I’m on Airfrance lol

[wary oak]

Jajaja noo

[ember sinew]

Oooooooh estas en Chile ya ?

[wary oak]

Noo me refería a que espero que cuando vuelva a ver el celu haya algo

[ember sinew]

Aaaaaaaa !!

Crossing fingers

[wary oak]

XD

[tame tendon]

[waxen meteor]

I've been reflecting on this and while I'm convinced on 25 being somehow meaningful (as a date or not), I think the 6 isn't nearly as well supported. The only time we've seen both numbers together explicitly during the clancy era is Josh's cryptic Instagram post about a run, and it didn't specify 6.25mi was a date, we assumed that. Then the other evidence is that they had tweets with 6 and 25 letters and words which could be something but could be a coincidence as well. I'm not trying to shoot down anyone's theories, I think its a valid hypothesis, but I also don't think it's fair to say that TOP has hinted at this so much bc they really haven't 🤔 we concocted the hype ourselves

[tame tendon]

I thought about that

[waxen meteor]

(Regarding a double album or EP or at least additional songs, and not specifically the 6/25 date, yeah I think they have hinted at it hard in multiple ways and i will be kinda upset if it turns out to be nothing)

[wary oak]

Another thing they said was "hello clancy." They said it says it in 6.25 but that's not what it says in 6.24.

All this fuss that is being made with the 25th annoys me... if nothing happens today it would seem cruel to me to give clues that would be for next year. Even knowing how we are, we are looking for the hair in the egg

[tame tendon]

He said “Clancy” at 6:25, so that’s something

Idk

[olive plume]

maybe we can clown every month on the 25th

[waxen meteor]

Again nothing ever explicitly told us 25 is a date in the first place

25 could mean something besides a date. For example, 25 tracks (12 more songs), or a 25 minute final video or EP

[tame tendon]

What would the 6 possibly mean then?

[split island]

tbh I dont have anything better to do except for november so lets go

[safe spade]

Someone did say at the FPE Event the picture had 6 antlers on it....so think that fueled the 6.25 hype

[open bluff]

Y'all it's obviously gonna drop on the 25th month of the year

[tame tendon]

Welp, 25 more minutes

[tame tendon]

I didn’t think about this, good point

[waxen meteor]

Just spitballing but for example a full alternate interpretation of Josh's post:
47:14 -- when blurryface starts talking on Clancy, which is when the EP starts off from
6.25mi -- 6 songs, 25 minutes total
7'33" - a 7" vinyl that plays at 33rpm

[tame tendon]

Interesting

[coral willow]

I am hoping for maybe 6 lore related music videos and 25 songs total 🤞🏻🥺

[tame tendon]

What if they were teasing a new band name, twenty five pilots

🤯

[small turtle]

if they say nothing today I will be sad, of course, but legitimately surprised. Unless @waxen meteor 's interpretation is correct, and said songs release Friday; 6/28 was something too

wasn't it?

[coral willow]

The original time of paladin straight yep!

[small turtle]

yeah, and don't albums normally release on Fridays?

[tame tendon]

Itd be a pretty big coincidence

We only got 14 minutes

[coral willow]

I think that the original intention (in my opinion) is that the minute of birds / silence is a minute for us to remember or pay our respects to those lost to their own battles. I feel that tyler wanted us to listen to this song before we got the music video so we could sonically appreciate these fine tune details. I also believe the original time of 6:28 could easily point to 6/28 having relevance to something. Especially since it’s a Friday. It feels intentional.

[wary oak]

Or 2025

[lethal thistle]

I’m in denial

[tame tendon]

Idk, 2025 seems possible, but also not at the same time

[lethal thistle]

10 more minutes

[wary oak]

What else would I want to be 25?

[small turtle]

It could be both? I mean, I like that idea about the meaning of the bird song, but it doesn't rule out the time being intentional in other ways

[coral willow]

No yeah I definitely think it’s both!!

[small turtle]

But Friday gives me hope...

[coral willow]

100% same

[small turtle]

so if nothing happens in the next hour or so we don't have to lose our minds

(permenantly anyway)

(I will temporarily lose mine, I think)

I wish i was home in the States right now so I didn't have to face the decision of whether to stay up till 7:33 EST if nothing happens in six minutes. I'm in the UK

[coral willow]

Same

[small turtle]

I've also made cookies so that I can either celebrate or console myself

[wary oak]

prepare the clowns

[tame tendon]

4 minutes

Yep we’re done

[wary oak]

🤡

[coral willow]

https://tenor.com/view/clown-clown-meme-clown-makeup-tiktok-meme-gif-5027002171813147364

Welcome to clowntown babyyyyy

[small turtle]

what is the signifcance of clowns in this context?

sorry I'm lost

[coral willow]

We’re clowning that in 2 minutes something’s happening

[fleet pier]

I’m fully convinced nothing is coming today at this point

[wary oak]

What an idiot you are

[half zodiac]

It can't possibly for 2025 right? Right??

[wary oak]

it would be like a fail

[small turtle]

I missed 6:23 so I could say What's your ETA? TWO MINUTES!!

ugh

oh well

[sudden hawk]

no need to be rude. some people can't read sarcasm in text.

[small turtle]

I'm not on Twitter or Instagram or anything so somebody better be tracking those...

[tame tendon]

Aaaaaand there we go

[reef oxide]

No updates clancy ultimate chapter 25m

[cloud lynx]

what's ur problem dude
why rude like that?

[ripe wharf]

Welp, it came and passed

[coral willow]

I think they were explaining what clowning is. I thought they were being mean also but I think it was worded weird.

[half zodiac]

[pure timber]

I did doubt it cause tyler said final battle will be after the live show but I stoll held hope

But man 1 whole yesr

Year

Thats a lot

[half zodiac]

Maybe it later on in the day ??

[small turtle]

something could still happen in an hour or on Friday

[cloud lynx]

well i guess i'm the clown here

💀

[small turtle]

it's still 6/25 in Ohio for another several hours

[coral willow]

We’re all clowns now!

[small turtle]

there's the 7:33 thing and there's Friday

we don't have to give up

[pure timber]

They would have posted by now ngl

[small turtle]

what about 7:33???

I'm still stuck on this. Why all the 6/25s if it didn't mean something?

[tame tendon]

Why is josh more quiet than tyler on the new album? Noticed that

[languid crypt]

I could see a double album in a year, leg 1 of tour ends next year before June, also those little show tour they did is that normal? Or was that a bit out of the norm? Because part of me wonders if those had a bigger purpose , filming maybe? things potentially for the double album? Leg 1 flashback Drops the final battle album boom leg 2 final
Battle bow tie… however I could see them announcing it before leg 1 maybe a single who knows

[small turtle]

but if it's next year--or Friday, or anywhere in between--when do we get an announcement?

that's the other part I can't let go of

[cloud lynx]

i mean they've done one kinda secret pre-tour concert in London before Trench released
(A Complete Diversion)

but otherwise idk if they've ever done smth similar to the "evenings with TOP"

[small turtle]

because I've been thinking, if nothing else, there would be an announcement of something today

[lethal thistle]

Or just a tweet confirming we’re delusional

[small turtle]

yeah

[lethal thistle]

They’re radio silent rn and that sucks

[small turtle]

maybe THAT means something...or maybe we really are delusional...except I don't think we are

[half zodiac]

I will litteraly take blurry face making fun of us again. Just something to tell us we're all delulu

[uneven badge]

Maybe we are all going insane and need to sleep😭

[lethal thistle]

JUST A SIGN

[cloud lynx]

oh also, technically the Blurryface tour started before the album (Blurryface) released
from May 11th to May 14th (album released the 17th), then it only continued in September

[small turtle]

JUST A GLIMPSE

A VISUAL AID

[sudden hawk]

THAT THEY'RE GONNA MAKE IT

[small turtle]

WE'RE PAST THE POINT OF NO RETURN

I would swim the Atlantic Ocean

[reef oxide]

Guys look what happened to PS early june it was out long time but we needed to put in the work what if that was only the beginning to be fair it was quite easy compared to LOC so something big us coming or happening

[safe spade]

My delulu thought is Tyler liked something to do with June 25th and I feel like he would have shut down at least something by now about the double albim or the hype for today on Saturday when he was onlinr......

[hot stream]

Hello my nam is tiler broseph
I’m here to tell you we’re not rilisin anithin tonait

Goodnit

[sudden hawk]

sus

[small turtle]

Tyler was here the whole time

thanks for being sooo helpful

[silk bolt]

Imma stay clownin till 7:33

[tame tendon]

Close enough, hi Tyler

[rancid delta]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-gif-22055472

[small turtle]

should I do it? That'll be 12:33 AM for me

[sudden hawk]

I'mma be clownin' till the day is done

[small turtle]

we're already nearly there tbh

[sudden hawk]

because I ain't got nothing else exciting so WHY NOT

[silk bolt]

I meaaaaan what's another restless night

[sudden hawk]

(I have work in the morning BUT I NEED ZEST IN MY LIFE)

[small turtle]

as I said earlier...I'll keep my eyelids up, no matter what

I might take a nap though....set my alarm for 40 min

[coral willow]

Mood all day. Over and over.

[sudden hawk]

yee, gotta keep the brain fed <3

[small turtle]

yes, I have already fed it well today on hype and cookies

[lethal thistle]

I love you

[wary oak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZlevxPm5IA

[reef oxide]

They did guys we can go sleep now

[small turtle]

see y'all at 7:33

[wary oak]

why 7 33

[silk bolt]

Not the 47

The 7.33 pace

[wary oak]

aaa

nahhh

[silk bolt]

Copium is good for my soul and I will enjoy it

Keep your bliss
There's nothing wrong with this

[sudden hawk]

we just wanna have it all

[wary oak]

I'm in denial mode

[vestal surge]

welp see y’all next June for Clancy Final Chapter Prologue 358/2 Days or whatever

[onyx phoenix]

😭

[tame tendon]

Unless they announce something in 13 minutes

We’re kinda done

[mellow stratus]

I was so convinced…

[long rose]

At least something

[mellow stratus]

No way can they leave us with that mv for who knows how long

[long rose]

They did the same with levitate tbh

[light chasm]

Clancy ultimate chapter - June 2025

See y’all in a year

😦

[silk bolt]

Still 5 minutes

[light chasm]

10:14 apparently was when he posted blurryface getting washed away

[wraith gulch]

Still 4.5 hours

[light chasm]

So 3 hours

[wraith gulch]

11:14

[light chasm]

Oh yeah

[wraith gulch]

That’s another guess people have for a time

Decent enough theory

[light chasm]

If it’s not past then I’ve lost hope for 2024

Well the rest of 2024

I’m satisfied

[silk bolt]

So you're telling me theres hope

[wraith gulch]

I’m a believer till midnight EST

[lean mango]

11:14

I'm really doubtful tbh, the complete silence reminds me too much of the Paladin wait

[sudden hawk]

I mean, it's still exciting that something more is going to happen! I'm just hopeful for sooner than later! :>

[lean mango]

But we shall see

If the anniversary is the reason for the date then the exact anniversary time might be important, so hope isn't lost yet

[cosmic jewel]

shall we prepare the clown nose again

[tame tendon]

It’s safe to say we’re done

[wraith gulch]

Entertain my faaaaaiiith

[cosmic jewel]

[lean mango]

Not done til the day is

4.5 more hours

[cosmic jewel]

ok.... goodnight

[wraith gulch]

Gn!

[small turtle]

okkkaay....I'm going to bed...hopefully I'll wake up to something

[glacial fulcrum]

[cosmic jewel]

me too

[glacial fulcrum]

I hear if you dream really hard

[long rose]

I have the theory that when we're more desperate that's when nico would say something

[glacial fulcrum]

Drag path will release

[small turtle]

I don't want to think about the idea of Nico talking to me in my dreams

goodnight : )

entertain my faiiith....

[wraith gulch]

Gn dogstar! Sleep well.

[ocean socket]

I really did think something would happen today but I have to say a new album coming out in 2025 would make a lot of sense, and june 2025 too considering the tour is ending in May but i do also think that it is kinda early for them to tease it already now. So would not be suprised if we got more hints or more letters.
Also if the 25 means 2025 a single wouldn't feel big enough to wait a Year for

[cedar yacht]

Sadly no 😦

[lunar slate]

IF they always planned for whatever they have in store to release in 2025, I wish they would've started hinting in like July or something, that way the confusion of June 25th couldn't have even happened because the date would've already passed. This was kind of a reason I was so optimistic about today, because why else would they tease 2025 so early when it could easily be misinterpreted as June 25th, y'know?

[wraith gulch]

Absolutely.

[ember sinew]

“Guys expect something July/August 25th it’s the big finale we’ve all been waiting for!”

[lunar slate]

Huh?

[tame tendon]

Honestly, I liked the theory of 6/25 not being a date, seems a little plausible now

[tame tendon]

Right here

[long rose]

How chill we will be if Tyler or Blurryface just tweeted: 2025

If THAT'S the plan...

[onyx phoenix]

1 minute.

[strange shadow]

🙏🙏🙏🙏

[tame tendon]

I will jump from the top of the tower if they leave us there for a year

[lean mango]

The thing is, what's the point in teasing it so heavily if it's a 25 min video or 25 tracks?

especially when we can't be sure what it is?

I think 25 tracks total w/ Clancy is possible

but it's info we can do absolutely nothing with until it's confirmed, unlike a date

[tropic oracle]

i tried to warn y'all

[lean mango]

it's not the 26th yet

there's still time

but if that passes, I'll admit I am 🤡

I won't admit 2025 though, I still expect it in the next month or so if not tonight

[tame tendon]

We still got Friday I guess (I’m lying to myself now)

[rancid gust]

well

I guess the 6 25 wasn't june 25th

there is still a 6 25 tho so I wonder what the deal is

[lean mango]

we don't know this for sure

it's still 6/25 there

and the blurry paint tweet was at 11:14 pm

tho it is looking steadily more doubtful

[novel bobcat]

Could still be 6/2025, or June 2025

[long rose]

I really thank you for keeping up the attitude as best you can even if things don't go as we might speculate. No matter what they may say in a while I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

[hexed haven]

😭 don’t say that

[tropic oracle]

i really hope smth happens today but i dont think anything will 😭

[golden hornet]

Could it be 625, would that be of significance?

[safe spade]

hmmm

[modern atlas]

past 11:14 fellas

[orchid ivy]

Maybe Tyler just loves this dude

[modern atlas]

13 minutes

3 minutes

https://tenor.com/view/sad-violin-krabs-gif-9894836

[storm fable]

[waxen meteor]

🤡

[vague jetty]

😔

[long rose]

By the fact that nothing happened today... It only makes me believe even more now that the double album could be a possibility

[wraith gulch]

Yeah I’m still down for double album.

What I’m not down for is this terrible lack of straightforwardness

[lean mango]

wild goose chases, more like

they make certain interpretations seem really likely and seemingly know they're doing so, then go silent

oh hey, we've got clown badges

[wraith gulch]

Oh hell yes clownies

But yeah. I agree.

If it’s 2025 then just freaking say so. Or give us an actual puzzle to solve with a clear start like LOC. with a clear answer.

[long rose]

Hell yeah clownies!

[violet zodiac]

LOL

how do you get one (i was also believing we were getting something today 😭)

[weak swallow]

be in verified theorists (?)

[long rose]

idk really hahaha

[violet zodiac]

ohhh gotcha!!

[rancid gust]

ok but now we gotta wonder what the 6 25 is about

is it june of next year or something else?

[weak swallow]

yeah

[rancid gust]

because I don't think they'd tease it that far in advance ngl

[wraith gulch]

I mean

that’s still a guess

Which is why this is frustrating

[lean mango]

My genuine theory? It was meant to be today but they just changed it and said nothing, and now we'll have to wait who knows long with absolute silence and it'll happen randomly sometime in the next month or so

[rancid gust]

I'm worried its something else but no one is gonna figure it out cause we're thinking its just next year

[weak swallow]

let’s start looking for things in the digital remains again until they feel bad for us again and drop it

[rancid gust]

lol

[long rose]

It just... feels werid...

ngl

[weak swallow]

nothing this era has felt like it was planned at all

[rancid gust]

well its not midnight for me yet lol

not over until the fat lady sings as they say

[weak swallow]

how do you make a whole lore song (vignette) and then make the music video all silly and goofy

even if vignette wasn’t supposed to be lore, the mv still has nothing to do with what the song is about

[rancid gust]

vignette is so fun to sing along to

but ye

I mean they had the 11 footprints on that one

[tropic oracle]

most of the mvs are silly and not too related

they exist to kinda just be a video

[weak swallow]

yeah but vignette is by far the worst example

[tropic oracle]

i mean snap back has some mild lore to it and like nothing happens in that video

[weak swallow]

that and oldies station

[rancid gust]

I really liked the midwest indigo video lol

[wraith gulch]

I’m kind of “theory”d out tbh. It’s pretty annoying. Not just like the band silence but so many people being so joyful when others are wrong it’s just immature and tiring. Maybe I’m just old. And people saying so smugly that there’s “no way” there’s a double album versus just saying they dont think a double album is happening. Like nobody has any real idea outside the band and their small network. We can of course theorize but some of the smugness for no reason is really old.

I’m not actually upset, just more like “meh” on verified and such and the contradicting stuff and silence from the band.

[rancid gust]

nah you right

[wraith gulch]

I absolutely love Clancy and all the videos too

[rancid gust]

I just want to know whats up

like

I can't stop thinking about it until its confirmed ya know?

[weak swallow]

i think the band is stuck between wanting to be cryptic and not being allowed to be

[rancid gust]

one way or the other

[weak swallow]

idk it just feels so weird to say "we're gonna be straightforward" and try so hard not to be

[wraith gulch]

Yeah

[rancid gust]

wym not allowed to be?

[weak swallow]

i wonder if the label saw how popular the lore was and wanted to use it to market the album

[tropic oracle]

i think a lot of people here were looking at some things that could be taken one way and were Expecting something to happen when nothing would, at the end of the day these are all theories made by fans and nothing tyler or josh have confirmed we should all take EVERYTHING with a HUGE grain of salt to not get disappointed when we are wrong :[

[weak swallow]

like the label said no more dmaorg, make everything super accessible

[rancid gust]

ah gotcha

but hang on tho wasn't the music video teaser on there?

[weak swallow]

yeah but we lowkey made that happen because we were sick of waiting for paladin

[tame tendon]

And were done

[rancid gust]

not done, just wrong about the 6/25 thing

[wraith gulch]

Sure but we didn’t KNOW nothing was happening today. It was as legitimate a theory as 2025 is. Which side of the fence you’re on is simply opinion and there was no harm in it.

[weak swallow]

if we hadn't started piecing together DR when nothing was actually there then i really doubt they wouldve done that teaser

seemed incredibly last minute to me anyway, showed 90% of the video

you could watch that teaser and guess how the video ends and not need to watch the full thing

[tropic oracle]

ofc !!! but again nothing was confirmed so we can only really have ourselves to blame when we are let down

i think it would be nice if tyler said smth just to let us know but he does not owe us anything

[rancid gust]

I'm not let down, I just don't know where to go from here lol

like the song :D

[vale canyon]

we have the 28th

[weak swallow]

i mean he kinda does when hes been actively flaming people's theories

[rancid gust]

what is the 28th?

[weak swallow]

why did he like a tweet about the 25th ??

[lean mango]

late but I agree

I think this is a big part of it for me

[wraith gulch]

Yeah

[weak swallow]

the paladin mv is 5:24 (day clancy released) and the song is 6:28

[rancid gust]

ah

maybe

I did think it was weird that the bird part wasn't in the video

like what was the intention of that being in the spotify song

feels like it'd be the other way around

[vale canyon]

the bird part is a minute long? or more?

[tropic oracle]

no yeah he does sometimes but like at the end of the day its not a big deal

[rancid gust]

its right around a minute

[weak swallow]

i would honestly just rather them pretend like we get a disappointing cliffhanger ending and then blow our minds with something after tour, rather than just teasing something literally 12 months away

[tropic oracle]

it was not june 25th oh well :/ we just wait for smth else !!!

[rancid gust]

I absolutely do not want a dissapointing cliffhanger ending

[livid pine]

what if it all means nothing and double album shadow drops july 8th or something (im delusional and don’t want to wait a year)

[rancid gust]

although I'll accept it if thats what it is ig

the tour does end in may 2025

[lean mango]

It's pretty frustrating coming from the same person who said last era he never wants to lose our trust

[rancid gust]

nah he'll drop somethin' we're just wrong about 6/25

[weak swallow]

something that bothers me is the lack of aesthetic for this album

[rancid gust]

being today

[weak swallow]

any merch or ads from trench or sai you can immediately recognise the album

[rancid gust]

I want my inferno hoodie

[weak swallow]

the merch this time is literally just random assets reused

[livid pine]

YEAH like trench was so atmospheric it was crazy. even outside of the music. same with SAI

[weak swallow]

and the ads literally dont exist

[tropic oracle]

yeah but its like oh well

what can we do

im just happy we have clancy

[weak swallow]

they had the floral pattern they slapped on everything which was better than literally the album cover slapped onto a shirt

[livid pine]

if the hypothetical second album comes 2025, why was the promo for clancy so abysmal?

[tropic oracle]

also makes sense if the concerts are flash backs/ some kind of build up that if there is more music it comes AFTER the tour

[livid pine]

i loved the floral pattern🥲 it felt like there was a theme to it all

[weak swallow]

the only promo that looks decent is the tour posters and even that doesnt fit the aesthetic of the album cover imo

[rancid gust]

I'm just coping hard rn because I don't want to wait that long lol

[livid pine]

clancys visual theme is what…fire? most of the videos are shot in the snow lmao

[weak swallow]

literally what i said

[rancid gust]

ye

and we still don't have the dema burning visual from the digital remains thing

[tropic oracle]

nobody does but like its still insane if its 2025 bc like we dont have to wait another three years ?!!?!?!

thats huge

[wraith gulch]

But ok. So let’s say it’s 2025. Why can they not just, now, explicitly say this? “You’ll know more in 2025. More to come in 2025.” Yes I know his tweets about the tour but it was still not explicit.

[rancid gust]

true

[tropic oracle]

and im rlly happy if it is

[weak swallow]

"i hope this spark will create an inferno" yet midwest indigo, vignette and oldies station are all snowy videos

[rancid gust]

I'm not locked in on 2025, I honestly don't think thats what the 25 is about

maybe I'm wrong tho

[livid pine]

no no i’ll be happy for 2025. just in retrospect i wish they gave this album more of a ceremonious presentation with how good the music is

[rancid gust]

idk what it'd be for though,

[lean mango]

For me it's not about being happy with what we got or not

[hexed haven]

The music is impeccable

[lean mango]

it's about accountability

[weak swallow]

literally, they have done this to themselves by giving us two cryptic dates in the exact same format that mean completely different things

[tropic oracle]

of what ???

[wraith gulch]

I don’t disagree, but that’s what I’m saying. If it’s 2025 say so. If not, say something why do we not have any more info. I was most surprised when we had no text after Paladin announcing the next “thing”

[rancid gust]

right

[weak swallow]

the album is great, (most of) the music videos are great but they keep backing themselves into weird corners and not explaining anything when things dont happen

[lean mango]

I love this band (pay no attention to my name), so I care about when things go really badly and I want to voice that, because I want to make it seen that even if it's "just how it is" sometimes, it does affect us and it's frustrating

[rancid gust]

well it might be right around the corner, its too early to get upset still

[lean mango]

and the band is great

[livid pine]

exactly!! like these songs deserve the world. but it’s reach is relatively small because the label doesn’t care and the band seems to be focused on teasing the next thing even though it seems to be a year out

[lean mango]

but in this case, they could've done better

[rancid gust]

It hasn't even been an hour since 6/25 yet

[hexed haven]

Yea… I love every song pretty much

[lean mango]

and I'd rather let that perspective be known than pretend like it's all great or just ignore it, because I know that they can do so much better, and feedback helps them learn and do better next time

[weak swallow]

realistically if something was going to happen yesterday it wouldve been at 1pm ohio time

[rancid gust]

Midwest indigo has seriously grown on me ngl

[lean mango]

and they've said that's something they care about, and they're always trying to grow and make things better

[rancid gust]

still today for me but ye

[livid pine]

backing themselves into weird corners is a great way of putting it…delays, mediocre merch, pulling vinyls from the store, music video with a kind of arbitrary ARG. like ???

[rancid gust]

I'm just saying if nothing happens in like 2 months, then it might be time to get a little peeved

pulling the vinyls from the store is still wild. I put in a support request for it and they said they sold out

I got one in time tho

[tropic oracle]

you should not let these kinda things affect you so deeply though :[ it was very optimistic to hope for a second album so soon anyway, and tyler has a life outside of music and things he needs to do and pay attention to these are real people at the end of the day and not people that exist to just give us music

[weak swallow]

it feels like they want to go back to being trench cryptic, where tyler didnt tweet for months after jumpsuit because he was in dema, but something is making them do these arbitrary release dates that they wont make so things are "simple" and "easy to digest"

[tropic oracle]

i love making theories and stuff but this should all be done for fun and if you find it affecting your feelings or personal life i think you should step back and take a break

[weak swallow]

its not rlly about that though, its the fact that theyve actively built hype for something they knew wasnt going to happen which is just weird

[tropic oracle]

i used to be like that a few years back with certain things and its not good for you

[wraith gulch]

Clancy being so good is why this is all so weird. Why the f is FBR doing like no promo? Why has Tyler not done a single interview since it came out (I know he has a kid but these have been 15 minute interviews over zoom). Why say this is straightforward era and it’s anything but? Why say Clancy is the last album of the story and based on Paladin in its current form, it’s not? Why did the lore-forward album (WELCOME BACK TO TRENCH) have so little lore in it? This isn’t crying like I hate the band. It’s exactly the opposite. Clancy was GREAT so why is the rollout so shitty?

[weak swallow]

why wouldnt people be disappointed with it

[rancid gust]

nah I'm not mad, I'm just in a bit of a frenzy tryna figure out where we went wrong and what the clues are actually pointing to

[tropic oracle]

they were not though, we just saw some things and assumed they were building hype for smth they were not

[hexed haven]

For me it’s snap back

[weak swallow]

how is tyler liking a tweet about the 25th not building hype for something that doesnt exist

[rancid gust]

that one too though not as much, snap back started at the bottom for me

went up to upper mid

[weak swallow]

like ok if everything else is a huge stretch then thats just blatantly weird

[hexed haven]

Same i really like it now

[lean mango]

That's not really how it works, TOP is a band that has been with me for around a decade, they have a major impact in my life, and that's something they want and have been striving for. Unfortunately letting them affect me in the good ways also means it has an impact when the negative stuff happens too

[tropic oracle]

25 does not mean the 25th of this month, or of any month we are just tying numbers to random things

[weak swallow]

we literally got 229 which meant 29th february

[wraith gulch]

The tweet he’s referring to literally said 6/25

[weak swallow]

but 625 doesnt mean anything ?

[rancid gust]

bro he put 25 in the clancy ultimate chapter thing, it means something

[wraith gulch]

June 25th

[rancid gust]

we're just wrong

[lean mango]

And posting more 6 25 hints during the time when June 25th theories are very prevalent

[hexed haven]

It has to

[rancid gust]

about what its for

[tropic oracle]

me too man this band has saved me on MANY occasions and i have been listening for a decade too, but i can realize that these are just theories and not fact and we should not let these get to us when they are wrong

[vale canyon]

I mean, the only certain thing about the 25 it was the drop in the tempo

the 25 was not even used in the ps mv teaser

[wraith gulch]

I mean people are allowed to be frustrated without necessarily being super upset. Ranting is healthy too.

[rancid gust]

alr well back to the elden ring DLC, just checkin in to see if anything happened.

[vale canyon]

that fucking dlc is kicking my ass

[tropic oracle]

hella good dlc

[rancid gust]

I'm talking about this image from the fan premier exhibit

[lean mango]

I mean, it depends on what you mean, but I think we have a right to be frustrated

[rancid gust]

oh yeah I'm lovin' it so far, its so hard :D

[lean mango]

It'd be another matter if people were rioting or going too far

but we're just expressing some well-earned frustration for a very lackluster rollout for an otherwise solid album

[vale canyon]

it lead to nothing more than coincidences, thats what im refering to

[rancid gust]

right right, but also there is a definitive 25 on there

so whats it for?

[tropic oracle]

you can be frustrated but its unfair to blame it on the band, and if its making you Very upset then that is unhealthy

[rancid gust]

because clancy ultimate chapter by itself would've been enough

we just thought it'd be today, but now that it wasn't we gotta get a new theory rollin'

[tropic oracle]

i need to finish elden ring but im also tryna finish bloodborne rn so

[vale canyon]

i think there is something to look for in the birds and that time in ps

[rancid gust]

haven't played that one yet, is it good?

[lean mango]

no, it's not unfair at all

they've made mistakes, to be frustrated towards them is completely justified

[vale canyon]

it is good, but after sote its gonna be a walk in the park

[lean mango]

they're not some perfect people that we aren't allowed to criticize, and if we're supposed to see them that way, that's a problem

[rancid gust]

gotcha lol, yeah that dlc is wild

[lean mango]

I don't even think Tyler would want that

[rancid gust]

getting one shot by every other thing :D

[tropic oracle]

im not saying we cant criticize them???? but they made NO promise about anything happening today? we just saw some numbers ASSUMED something would happen today and now we are getting mad at them?

its not that serious man

[vale canyon]

i thought maybe that my character that was in ng+4 was the problem but im starting to feel like it is just that crazy xd

[tropic oracle]

its our fault i fear 💔

plus we have new music anyway !!!!!!!!! so idk its chill

[rancid gust]

its just that crazy lol, I'm on the base playthrough for this run.

[vale canyon]

well, there was my chance to make it more easy haha

[quartz ore]

Can someone explain to me why everybody thinks drag path is a confirmed title? where did that come from?

[rancid gust]

there was a song called drag path crossed out in the digital remains

I still don't think its a song that we'll get tho

[vale canyon]

in the DR there were some letters with different song titles and drag path was one of them, also in the i am clancy video there is a reference to it

[quartz ore]

Ya saw the video reference. Maybe a scraped song. Cheers. Happy 26 :/

Thanks!

[violet zodiac]

i feel well fed from clancy and everything else we've gotten this year!! and there's still the tour and there might be more stuff in that as well!! <3 as much as i would have liked for something to happen today, im totally content rn and i can't wait for what 25 actually means 👀

[tropic oracle]

so true !!!! loving the era so far and there is more planned

i feel very happy with what we have

[lean mango]

No, it absolutely is not our fault. That's easy for you to say as someone who never thought anything was happening today, but a lot of people did. The fact that so many did wasn't just a collective delusion, it was because the evidence pointed in that direction. It did enough so for the majority of the verified theorists channel to vote twice, and have the majority vote that they thought something was happening on the 25th. Tyler has said many times that he keeps tabs on this stuff especially when he's teasing new things, and we know he was well aware of these theories. Fanbases are a responsibility and while he can't be responsible for keeping everyone happy, he definitely has a responsibility to follow through and communicate, just like any normal person does with any other normal person. Moreso now because he's spent years cultivating this circle of dedicated theorists, talking about how much they mean to him and how important that mutual trust is.

And for the record, I'm not really mad at them. I'm frustrated, but not really mad, but I am getting to be mad at you now because you're acting all high-and-mighty about it. People have a right to feel how they feel, no one is being toxic towards the band here, just reasonably and calmly expressing justified frustration, so just let them be, please.

[open bluff]

I love this era but it’s also so confusing

[tropic oracle]

im not acting all high and mighty im just saying its weird to be annoyed at the band for smth they did not do

[rancid delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/940390987841302598/1255009669877862431/image0.gif

[vale canyon]

coincidences play tricks on us

[lean mango]

They did something, and for you to repeatedly insist they didn't when others are hurt by itis acting high and mighty

[tropic oracle]

? they teased smth to do with 25, we thought it was this month and we were wrong

its just kinda like oh well

we move on

[wraith gulch]

Yeah, ranting does not equal real physical anger towards the band.

Plenty are frustrated no matter how justified or unjustified one thinks it is, it’s more of a cumulative frustration for the rollout than this one specific thing.

There’s nothing wrong with sharing frustrations, it can be cathartic and you walk away a little more okay because you realize you’re not the only one feeling these things.

[lean mango]

Yea, like... I'm still a fan and it'd take much, much more than this to change that

[wraith gulch]

For sure

[lean mango]

(my name is a joke if it wasn't clear)

[weak swallow]

every time they do something that seems like its going to head back into lore territory it just doesnt

its so weird to me

[tropic oracle]

plus who knows tyler might have gone to bed, he wakes up and sees the disappointment and says smth

[weak swallow]

i honestly doubt that he didnt see it in these past few weeks

i think it would be incredibly naive to go to sleep and not expect people to be disappointed

[tropic oracle]

again this man has a life outside music

can we all just be happy with clancy for now 💔

[weak swallow]

but you say that like he doesnt go on twitter

[tropic oracle]

well we dont know him so

[weak swallow]

nobody is unhappy with clancy, theyre unhappy that theyve seen all of this happen and not said anything

[tropic oracle]

no clue what he did or saw today

[lean mango]

I've been happy with clancy ever since it came out, doesn't mean that's the only emotion I can express with regards to the band

[tired halo]

People seem to be forgetting this lately

[lean mango]

he's had a month to anticipate how people would react when nothing happens today

[weak swallow]

but i know what hes BEEN doing for the last few weeks and thats fueling the theory of june 25

[tropic oracle]

yeah ik !!! but it was Very optimistic to hope for a second album right before a tour

i dont even know if he could fit it on the setlist

considering he seems to be teasing playing old songs too

[weak swallow]

they took stressed out, ride, car radio and heathens off the setlist tbf

they could come back but still as of rn theyre gone

[lean mango]

No, believe me, I'm a parent, I know it's hard, at the same time this is his job and he's still very passionate about it and committed to it. If it's getting to the point where it's too much to handle and he's in too deep now, then unfortunately that's still a mistake, and we have a right to be frustrated about the outcome of that

[tropic oracle]

it might just be for the small shows

[lean mango]

doesn't mean we blame him or say he's a terrible person for it

[tropic oracle]

they did that for takeover i think too?

[wraith gulch]

As of now they have no openers. So a longer set is possible if that holds true

[tropic oracle]

wait

no i think they did play them

idk been a few years forgive me lol

[weak swallow]

he couldve just said "we've seen that you guys think that something is coming before tour, this is not true but we are trying to make the tour as good as possible" and not a single person would complain or be frustrated

[twilit briar]

u guys are sounding a little parasocial

[weak swallow]

thats all we've asked them to do and they just wont

[tired halo]

Yeah but you sound like you’re attacking him for his “responsibility” to us. We are just some people on the internet who wrongfully thought something was gonna happen today. He is not responsible for our emotions. We can feel and do whatever we want to do. He’s just one guy

[wraith gulch]

Exactly

[weak swallow]

??????????

ok dude

[lean mango]

I'm not attacking him

I'm just expressing frustration at how he has handled it

and that frustration grows the more he chooses not to communicate

[tropic oracle]

people are kinda speaking as if they Know tyler though, and telling him exactly how he should handle things???

idk just seems a bit weird

[weak swallow]

not really theyre just saying what they wouldve liked to happen

nobody is saying

[lean mango]

like, even though he has a life and he's a parent, it takes 5 mins tops to write a quick tweet to let us know if there's a delay or something isn't happening the way we think it is

[weak swallow]

i know tyler and he wouldnt want this !!

[lean mango]

I'm holding him to the same standard I'd hold anyone else to. Nothing parasocial about it

[weak swallow]

people are saying he actively fueled a theory that he knew wasnt going to happen and never communicated otherwise

[tropic oracle]

he liked a tweet talking about 25

[rancid delta]

nah, with how much obvious hinting/teasing they did surrounding 6/25 i feel like they should have said SOMETHING about it. but no. radio silence.

[weak swallow]

june 25th

[rancid delta]

i cant help but be a bit salty

[wraith gulch]

He liked a tweet referencing June 25th

[vale canyon]

i mean, they did communicate to us about something hidden in DR and that led to ps mv teaser, and nothing more

[weak swallow]

but nothing was hidden in DR

[rancid delta]

im not ANGRY. im really happy with what we got on clancy. but its not what it was promised to be.

[vale canyon]

the code for the teaser

[tropic oracle]

wait can i see the tweet? soz i missed it just wanna understand

[weak swallow]

they only made that because we started looking

it didnt exist before we started looking for anything

[vale canyon]

yeah?

[weak swallow]

yeah so nothing was hidden in DR

[wraith gulch]

Yeah. It was a joke tweet after his kubota post. But it indicated he saw the June 25th stuff.

Wrong one

Hang on. Second photo

I have a better one

[lean mango]

And again, the people coming in here just to criticize and talk down to the people who are frustrated aren't being helpful, just let us feel how we feel

if it gets toxic, sure, you have a right to call it out

but this isn't

[rancid delta]

So much for this

[vale canyon]

that was the only thing liking something about 25?

[tropic oracle]

oh this is just a joke lol

are we seriously holding him to this

[wraith gulch]

No

[lean mango]

please just leave

[wraith gulch]

It’s just one part of the whole puzzle lol

[tropic oracle]

erm i will stay thank you 👆

[wraith gulch]

I honestly think you are taking our frustrations as way more serious than they are

[tropic oracle]

no im not

[weak swallow]

you definitely are

[wraith gulch]

Like we are NOT actually mad. Just a little venting. And being told it’s not ok to vent. We are just chatting

[lean mango]

stop telling us how we feel

[twilit briar]

have u considered 6/25 just wasnt right and it could come out later

[wraith gulch]

Of course

[rancid delta]

he knew about the theories. he never denied it. sure he didnt ACTUALLY say anything was gonna happen, but he didnt say nothing would happen either. he has said he would say something if it wasnt new music

[wraith gulch]

It was just a theory

[rancid delta]

and the fact he said nothing made us think there was something

[tropic oracle]

thats what i have been saying the whole time !!!!

[weak swallow]

nobody thought it wasnt though lol

[tropic oracle]

i was never telling anyone how to feel just that it was not a big deal

[weak swallow]

obviously its not a big deal

nobody said it was

[rancid delta]

he should have said something like "i know you guys are excited but chill for a bit. 6/25 is just us memeing"

[vale canyon]

i think thats the problem to them, telling them it wasnt a big deal

[tropic oracle]

then lets all maybe drop it

[vale canyon]

they just wanted to rant about it for a bit

[rancid delta]

we are allowed to be upset

[vale canyon]

thats for the best

[wraith gulch]

So we are just venting to reason out why it wasn’t so. But you’re telling us to feel like it wasn’t a big deal. No one is saying they are leaving the fandom over this, we aren’t even mad! It’s like “well why the heck would they tease 6, 25 then. What the heck would it be for?” And people just saying “2025” is ALSO a guess. It could not mean a date at all.

[quartz ore]

we still arent sure theres nothing left to find. everybody has been teasing.

[twilit briar]

it must be a big enough deal if u want tyler to know how disappointed you are and say something about it

[quartz ore]

Its not over till early july iml.

[tropic oracle]

not saying ur not !!! but a few people were getting a little more than just annoyed and said some weird things about tyler and acted like he owes us something lol

[weak swallow]

did i @ him on twitter

[tropic oracle]

im sad too nothing happened

[lean mango]

Well, you should know, you've genuinely ruined my evening. I was mildly frustrated about 6/25 being nothing but now I'm actually mad and I really hope you realize you're being an asshole about this. If that's not you're intention then please reconsider how you talk to other people. If it is, then good for you, hope it made you feel good for a couple of minutes.

[rancid delta]

he let us know the album got delayed. not sure why he is so radio silent about this.

[weak swallow]

literally

[twilit briar]

ur talking about it in a server that apparently he uses or something

[weak swallow]

its just weird to have 100% transparency with one thing

but radio silence with other things

[tropic oracle]

damn sorry to hear that man

[rancid delta]

the fact nothing happened yesterday makes me genuinely wonder whats up. we know hes active.

[tropic oracle]

idk what i did 😭

[lean mango]

Shut the fuck up, you absolutely do

[brazen leaf]

Well

[weak swallow]

he does not use this server lol and he definitely does not check in this random ass forum

[brazen leaf]

he does read the discord

or mark does we know that

maybe not these forums

[tired halo]

Pretty sure mark does

[weak swallow]

most likely only verified

[brazen leaf]

but the voice chats

[lean mango]

I'm sorry all, I'm out for the night, or maybe for the foreseeable future, this is just no longer enjoyable to be a part of this anymore

but I genuinely wish most of y'all the best

[vale canyon]

take care

[lean mango]

and hopefully something good comes of all this uncertainty in the end

[brazen leaf]

it’s ok guys we still have 2025

[vale canyon]

and 28th

[brazen leaf]

wait what

what’s 28rh

am i behind

[jagged jackal]

its unlikely anything happens before the tour logistically

[fallow violet]

sorry but if nothing happens based upon some theories maybe it’s just because the theories were wrong, they never officially gave us anything that said something will for sure happen on june 25th so i don’t understand how it’s their fault

[vale canyon]

just the length of ps 6:28

[brazen leaf]

oh

[rancid delta]

i still dont think 2025 makes any sense. why tease something this early?

[brazen leaf]

yeah it’s not their fault lol anyone who says it is their fault is wrong

it’s just us

[weak swallow]

i dont think people would be THIS frustrated if paladin wasnt delayed with 0 notice

[rancid delta]

also blurryface 10th anniversary is only a month before june of 2025

weird time to drop an album right at the same time as that

[tired halo]

I mean 2025 is only 6 months away roughly. Thats not too out of the realm of possibilities