Double Album Confirmed

[safe spade]

So the birds in Paladin....what if it's birds singing AT SUNRISE!!

You know how sometimes sounds from outside your head when you're asleep end up appearing in your dream??

[dawn kettle]

Idk if it was on my walk to work this morning, but was listening to paladin and if I'm right there is morning doves in the song

[safe spade]

What if it's like that so when the door opens Clancy ACTUALLY wakes up

[dawn kettle]

Which would tie into how I'm saying that the birds will be in the music video, the song will end before the last verse and then we'll have to find the true ending of paladin

Also to back this up, last verse starts at 5:20 in the song and the music video is 5:24 minutes long

[empty jasper]

case against a double album: there's no way TOP has been able to film additional music videos for all the songs (without anything getting out, budget, etc.), and they wouldn't release a double album without videos for the songs based on what they did with the 13 songs on Clancy. It'd be so disjointed if they did, and they're not a fan of going that route in general, it seems.

[dawn kettle]

HOLY I CALLED IT

[safe spade]

........NOT MORE 5's and 2's

[small turtle]

ok, false indigo is a plant

so it could still mean something

you could have named a song about Ohio a lot of things

and 'you make me sad...so cold' odd in a tribute to your home state if there isn't a double meaning

[cloud lynx]

imo they totally could do their usual release thing

not releasing all mvs at once

[empty jasper]

before the tour?

[cloud lynx]

they could release the songs before the tour

and the mvs during the tour / between legs

revealing more lore over time

while we work out the songs

this is what happened with Trench and SAI

and technically Blurryface

[empty jasper]

but that'd imply there's not a big bow to wrap over things all at once, unless the videos weren't lore connected at all which would be strange, given the proposed nature of a potential second album

[small turtle]

AND that song has one of the two references. Actually more than one

[cloud lynx]

did he say "all at once"?

genuine question

[wraith gulch]

Guys before this all goes down in 20 minutes I just want to say it’s been awesome discussing this theory with yall. If we are wrong then that’s totally okay, and if we are right then that’s freaking AWESOME but regardless it’s been great and everyone has been super respectful and I think we have had great discussions.

Hopefully we find out today, or at least on the 25th whether we are anywhere in the ballpark of what’s about to happen (what’s about to happennnn!) but either way it’s been a blast. 🔥🔥

[safe spade]

This was fun!!! Thanks for indulging in all of my theories!

WAIT A SECOND Walk with me one last time before this video drops

so we have two sides, winning and defeat....

WHAT IF we are only INBETWEEN those two....and if we DO get a second album that someone said would be a "Truce" which would be a combination between Red and Blue......which would be PURPLE!

And Yellow is the opposite of Purple!!

[wraith gulch]

Yeah if we get a second one I think it’ll be purple

[safe spade]

And yellow flowers are in his head AND when hes in the real word asleep

[rancid delta]

Omg...

[safe spade]

OH NO

THE BIRDS

IT STARTED AT 2 MINUTES

[cedar cradle]

I’ll see you guys on the other side

[silk vector]

WELCOME BACK GANG

[small turtle]

have you seen it????

THAT'S

[river orbit]

so that´s it?

[small turtle]

NOT

[undone egret]

well then

[boreal portal]

WE WERE

[open bluff]

WHAT

[rancid delta]

definitely not the end

[small turtle]

THE

[boreal portal]

SO FUCKING RIGHT

[rancid delta]

aint no way

[small turtle]

END

[cedar cradle]

Man nico coming from the door is so Goofey

[small turtle]

of course it isn't

[open bluff]

WE MIGHT BE RIGHT

[cedar cradle]

Ok ok when’s the news coming

[river orbit]

i mean that's not the end right?

[boreal portal]

WE ARE SOOOOOOOOOOO BACK

[open bluff]

No

[lean mango]

25th

trust

[undone egret]

the little rise after the end, something is coming

[safe spade]

DOUBLE ALBUM TRUTHERS RISE

[rancid delta]

RISEEEE

[ember rivet]

Wat

[neat epoch]

IT IS A DOUBLE ALBUM

[rain birch]

LESSGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[neat epoch]

LIKE IT CANT NOT BE ???

[open bluff]

So he killed all the bishops except nico??

[boreal portal]

Y'all called us mad men.

[safe spade]

the bird sounds started at 2 MINUTES when I opened the stream

[boreal portal]

Y'all SAID WE WERE MAD

[ember rivet]

Can anybody explain I’m lost😂

[rancid delta]

no its not double its the end. DENIAL.

[boreal portal]

did you watch the mv ?

[open bluff]

Not sure but this is definitely 100% not the end

[cedar cradle]

Nope

[ember rivet]

Yes

[lean mango]

how could this be the end lol

also the new logo they posted only has the defeat side

the blue side

[safe spade]

We need /

[silk vector]

purple era i pray

[open bluff]

They posted |- in the chat apparently without the/

[cedar cradle]

Verified theorists are saying no double album

[somber ocean]

i think ep

[safe spade]

There legit has to be more

[lean mango]

the denial is insane

they legit posted a half logo lol

[languid crypt]

Soooo this has to mean a double Album now?

[compact arrow]

Called it 🙂

[small turtle]

where's the half logo

[static sinew]

in the trailer (i cant watch the vid) the horns were laying on a rock w purple flowers

[languid crypt]

Or another song for climax drag path maybe?

[open bluff]

There's a tiny audio bit at the very end

[undone egret]

just that little rise of synth after "hello clancy"

[trail vigil]

It's a good day for this thread

[undone egret]

that says its not done

[trail vigil]

The half of the logo in the chat is very convincing

[rancid delta]

at the end that was literally the start of a new song

[compact arrow]

Stood 10 toes down on this theory since March 1st

[cedar cradle]

Ok its 5am should I stay up or nah do we expect Smth tonight

[wraith gulch]

OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGG

[lean mango]

Some people are so hard set against the idea of a double album that they'll deny literally any evidence for it

[storm fable]

Sound at the end is definitely the start to a new song

[silk vector]

i immediately was like “that could lead into whatever drag path is”

[lean mango]

yea, that's not evidence against a double album

Probably nothing tonight imo

[compact arrow]

Hard to deny it now

[wraith gulch]

Exactly

[silk vector]

bc “this drag path was different” after he got seized in the i am clancy bideo

[calm portal]

there has to be more tbh

[compact arrow]

From delusional to philosopher

[open bluff]

So what are we expecting now? Complete silence until the 25th?

[brazen leaf]

this theory is even more alive fuck yoi anyone who said otherwise

[undone egret]

time for torchbearer's side

[rain birch]

DELUSIONAL FROM DAY ONE AND NOW WE'RE HERE

[compact arrow]

Odd day 25th is a Tuesday

[wraith gulch]

So he legit gets captured that’s DEFINITELY ENNOUGH FOR MORE THAN ONE MORE SONG

[lean mango]

could be an EP too but given the evidence and the 11 dots it really feels like an album is likely

[calm portal]

staying awake until they release double album day one

[open bluff]

11 dots?

[brazen leaf]

THEY CALLED US DELUSIONAL. THEY SHUT THE DOOR ON OUR THEORIES. LOOK WHOS CACKLING NOW

[tame tendon]

DOUBLE ALBUM??

[mellow stratus]

JUST FINISHED IT AND WHAT WAS THATTTTTTTTTTTTT

WHAT WASSSS THAT

[cloud lynx]

guys guys i didn't watch the mv yet

[lean mango]

At the FPE exhibit where they teased Clancy Ultimus Capitulus

[compact arrow]

The deniers have now became the delusionals

[cloud lynx]

are we cooked or not

[cedar cradle]

Dies day 4 from lack of sleep

[open bluff]

Alright alright

[cedar cradle]

Cooked

[open bluff]

So nico can float or something?

[safe spade]

purple flowers.....

[calm portal]

I would not die I am goated

[open bluff]

And what was that magic(?) that came off of the antlers

[cloud lynx]

double album????

why is discord lagging so much

[compact arrow]

Prob

Or at least an EP

[open bluff]

Purple era incoming, I'm calling it

[compact arrow]

The end of the mv sounded like the start of a new song.

[cloud lynx]

YO

[olive pivot]

garunteed now i think no way

[brazen leaf]

omg

[cloud lynx]

HE GOT CAPTURED????
THATS WHAT I SAID EARLIER

[olive pivot]

midwest indigo

[fleet pier]

We’re so back guys!!!

[compact arrow]

There is a reason why their tour is starting so long after the album release

[safe spade]

I was theorizing earlier #1213244361320439828 message

[wraith gulch]

I mean, he’s seized by the throat and rendered incapacitated I call that captured

[calm portal]

if double album actually happens I will eat a shirt tbh

[olive jewel]

I bet Clancy Ultimate Chapter 25 means 2025 after their world tour wraps up

[cloud lynx]

CLANCY SEIZED FOR EP???

[buoyant fog]

I doubt that

[wraith gulch]

HE LITERALLY GOT CAPTURED WAYYYYY BACK IN LEVITATE, LOOK HOW MUCH CONTENT WE GOT SINCE THEN

[cloud lynx]

i'm gonna watch the mv in a few min

[cedar cradle]

Aight I’m going to bed istg if I wake up with a new puzzle or blurry face tweet or a dmaorg page istg

[calm portal]

everything happens when you go to sleep

LOL

[lean mango]

Yea, there's 100% something more on the way

I still think double album

[cedar cradle]

It’s 5am and j gotta study tomorrow ahhh

[lean mango]

they posted a half logo with only the blue side

[compact arrow]

Something soon. They wouldn’t drop all of this stuff and be doing the blurryface Twitter for no reason. When blurryface Twitter is active. That mean shit is about to go down.

[cloud lynx]

eqfjopzehifaefeazefhoaze

i knew Clancy was gonna be captured

i KNEW IT

[compact arrow]

Shout out to my double album believers

[languid crypt]

Same

[compact arrow]

I fear we have taken the lead on this fight 😼

[lean mango]

I want to know what Clancy actually did

[languid crypt]

Double album or a final song

[cedar cradle]

Wait it’s 6 in Columbus rn, in 4 minutes it’ll be 6:25 In Columbus

[lean mango]

his power is seizing, how was he able to just wipe everyone out

[digital oracle]

WHAT WAS THAT

[lean mango]

I'm not convinced the bishops are dead

[undone egret]

Fuck it, sticking my stake in the ground now. There is a double album, and it WILL be called "Torchbearer", and it will have a variation of The Craving on it, with (Debby's Version)

[small turtle]

can anyone work out what that says? It doesn'ts say 'double' does it??

[lean mango]

Josh confirmed Debby's Version will never happen

[open bluff]

I don't think debbys version will happen

[undone egret]

also said this was the finale to the story...

[digital oracle]

THATS THE MOST ANNOYING CLIFFHANGER EVER I WANT TO [REDACTED] TYLER

[open bluff]

But a Torchbearer album would be so fucking awesome

[static sinew]

i mean , the era technically still is

[cedar cradle]

Mf it doesn’t sound like the end or look like it like wtf was that nico just appeared and grabbed bros face

[boreal portal]

23/ 3 ?? /25

[undone egret]

haha, that's just my crazy theory

im gonna stick to it

[small turtle]

what does that say

[gritty bear]

Perhaps yall were right about Clancy = the vertical line, Paladin = the dash, and “final chapter” = diagonal line??

[cedar cradle]

VOLDOSY

[wraith gulch]

This literally resolved nothing, it only gave us more questions IMO. What’s this new bishop power all about? What the heck about Clancy’s new power? What happens to the zombies? Where the heck is the fire imagery from DR? What happens to Clancy? Is Josh just going to leave him?

SO. MANY. MORE. QUESTIONS. THAN. ANSWERS.

way too much for one more single song unless it’s like 15 minutes long lol

[cedar cradle]

He swims the Paladin strait to reach the /

[open bluff]

Or maybe one of the lines is Clancy and the line that is missing is torchbearer

[light chasm]

Congratulations

[safe spade]

WAIT

[olive jewel]

He said in an interview this would wrap up the story with a bow. This does not feel like that

[buoyant fog]

Delulu

[harsh venture]

The last social media post they just made, “climb the top of the tower” is the first post this whole album cycle that has started with a lowercase letter

[wraith gulch]

Exactly

[wraith gulch]

Oh that’s interesting

[small turtle]

is that significant somehow?

[languid crypt]

In the live stream Tyler kept hinting at Josh singing more

[safe spade]

Im a dashes in the street.......

[rancid delta]

PLEASE yes

[cedar cradle]

Do you understand what Tyler did to us this last month, do not believe a word from that man

[nimble yew]

The birds were not there. The only reason they had it was to get the time up to 6/25. There must be a reason for it.

[rancid delta]

torchbearer album hype

lets will it into existence

[harsh venture]

Not sure but they’ve always done lowercase social media posts until Clancy began

[boreal portal]

cook

[light chasm]

Clancy Deluxe for sure

[golden igloo]

torchbearer EP

[safe spade]

We're in the "space between" sooo the -

[steady ferry]

More questions then answers Paladin.... Sounds like the beginning of another song at the very end of the video....?

[cedar cradle]

GUYS APPARENTLY THE WEB PAGES FOR THE VINYL ARE CLOSING YOU CANT BUY THEM

[nimble yew]

Also, ASDH... (or whatever) from Tyler's Tweet has to mean something. I like the theory it's the song titles on the other album.

[ember rivet]

6.25 album release gang where you at

[nimble yew]

Here

[abstract widget]

Yes bb

[brazen leaf]

ok it’s definitely new music at the end

[steady ferry]

@brazen leaf I think so too

[brazen leaf]

it sounds new

[golden igloo]

loop theory dead

[steady ferry]

I've watched it three times since the premiere so far

[brazen leaf]

Anyway i’m hyped for next week

[novel bobcat]

I think announcement that day but probably release on a Friday

[wraith gulch]

It’s because the end of the song was a “hidden ending.” Before streaming services (where you can see the actual real length of the song) this used to be a relatively common trick to hide songs at the end of a record or cd, they just chose to use birds instead of silence.

[steady ferry]

This was the very first thing I noticed

[rancid delta]

at least for now

could still be a loop, but its not over yet

that much is clear

[hollow grove]

did anyone notice how all the glorious gones fell to the ground when nico came out of the door???

[open bluff]

Okay so the straight line and the dash are just as big. If the straight line is trench(?), the horizontal line Clancy aka the space between, then the dash should be an album as well following that logic

I'm convinced another album is coming

[rancid delta]

question is how soon

[ember rivet]

Or sorry i meant 6.25 album announcement and 6.28 torchbearer album release since paladin strait length and a friday (album release day)🙏 🙏 🙏

[rancid delta]

the 25th is 4 days from now

[light chasm]

Thank god. Seems like a lazy way to end it to me

[ember rivet]

Or just copium maybe

[storm fable]

either the 25th, or 2025 imo

[steady ferry]

@hollow grove Maybe from fear or a instinct reaction? Idk

[storm fable]

not sure which yet

[nimble yew]

That's pretty cool. I never new about that. Still, I think 6.25 being repeatedly thrown at us has to mean something.

[rancid delta]

maybe the announcement of it is on the 25th?

[nimble yew]

*knew

[wraith gulch]

I don’t think they’ll make us wait too long (yes I know we waited forever for this). Because right now it gives the impression that Clancy loses and I don’t think they want us to live with that negative ending for very long

[hidden rock]

The very fact that TØP commented in the live "|-" I mean, their logo but not complete, it's something to take in consideration!

[open bluff]

The probably fell because the bishops who were controlling them got defeated by clancy

[wraith gulch]

Oh I definitely agree with that. 6/25 means something 100%

[lean mango]

I expect 6/25 to be an announcement and not an album release

maybe song release

[light chasm]

Guys they said Clancy is the final album so many times and they called paladin strait “track 13” not the final track💀 there’s no way it’s a second album or EP called torchbearer or whatever. It’s just gonna be more Clancy

[rancid delta]

yeah same here

[open bluff]

Maybe single with announcement

[sudden steppe]

it's gotta be deluxe album

[rancid delta]

album/ep annoucement on the 25th. when it will actually drop is the question

id love it to be this week but that feels TOO soon ya know?

within a year for sure

[safe spade]

6/28 is next friday thats the length of Paladin Strait

[sudden steppe]

clancy short film announcement on 6/25

[nimble yew]

That'd be awesome!

[lean mango]

They actually have never said Clancy is the final album. Press releases have, but those aren't written by them

[cloud lynx]

tbh i think it might be an EP (or an EP size second part)

the "Clancy seized for EP" thing is still weird

[tame tendon]

full length feature film

[rancid delta]

i dont know about you but i wouldnt wanna buy another copy of clancy with more tracks when i already have like 6 copies

[lean mango]

They said "the next album will be the final one" long before Clancy was announced

[light chasm]

Tyler has so many times

[hidden rock]

For sure I think they'll continue with Clancy

[lean mango]

After Clancy was announced, they've only ever referred to it as nearing the end

[wraith gulch]

And even if they did, if they release it close to Clancy it is still considered a double album aka part of Clancy

[lean mango]

no, if you go back and see what was actually said, he hasn't said that

[buoyant fog]

Clancy Disc 2 i guarantee it

[lean mango]

Except by reference as the next album in the SAI era

[sudden steppe]

having 6 copies of the normal one might be more of an issue than buying one copy of the deluxe

also plenty of artists do deluxe albums

[rancid delta]

an album is longer than 25 minutes. anything shorter than 25 minutes qualifies as an EP

[sudden steppe]

even tøp did it for vessel didn't they?

[weak swallow]

every piece of marketing did though lol

[tawdry solstice]

Can anyone please summarise

[light chasm]

Listen man no offense here but you’re probably the person taking the most copium rn

[warm plover]

6 songs. <25 min. Ep. On 6/25

[rancid delta]

accidentally bought 2 vinyls, a signed cd, a cassette, the journal and the digital for itunes (it took a week to get to me i was impatient)

[lean mango]

if by every piece of marketing you mean the two press releases then yes, but if you can find a single thing that says it's the end that isn't one of those, I'll wait

I have yet to see it

That up there is one of the two press releases

[tame tendon]

ayo i just woke up and watched the music video, are we all in agreement that at the end something was about to happen before it went black

[light chasm]

I think it would be really stupid to have the Clancy era be 1 month long just for it to be the “torchbearer” era. I think the whole torchbearer theory is cool but doesn’t work cause why tf would an album be named after the guy who doesn’t talk

[lean mango]

I don't think it's going to be Torchbearer, I've never agreed with that theory

[rancid delta]

also there was no zane lowe interview

dont you think thats odd

[tame tendon]

Cause its cool, yo

[lean mango]

Clancy is the protagonist here and his story isn't over

[tame tendon]

😎

[light chasm]

That’s mainly why I think there’s more

[sudden steppe]

we're definitely getting one more thing, not full album, to end the lore, and it's been foreshadowed by tyler and teased in the new MV, that's IT

[neat iron]

IS NO ONE GOING TO COMMENT ABOUT THE FACT THAT JOSH LOOKS SUPER BADASS, OMG WARRIOR POOKIE

[boreal portal]

this lil snippet before the end

[sudden steppe]

but a full album is unrealistic

[lean mango]

I also don't think if there's an additional album it'll be considered a separate era

[boreal portal]

sounds very trench like

[weak swallow]

there definitely isn’t enough story left for another album for clancy lol

[light chasm]

The tour is also called Clancy and it goes until mid 2025 so the “double album” is just an extension of Clancy man

[rancid delta]

i just cant see it being a deluxe, and if it is, id hope i can buy it seperately from the rest of clancy

[lean mango]

that's what I'm saying

[boreal portal]

well yes no one said otherwise

[buoyant fog]

I JUST REALIZED THEIR TOUR ENDS THE DAY BEFORE THE 10TH ANNIVERSARY OF BLURRYFACE WHAT IF PART 2 COMES OUT ON THAT DATE

[tawdry solstice]

Either way we are getting more songs

[lean mango]

there absolutely is

Clancy is captured, Nico has the upper hand

[rancid delta]

whos to say they cant do two tours

SAI had two

takeover and icy

[lean mango]

And there's no way the bishops are dead

[light chasm]

Facecat keeps saying Clancy won’t be the final album like bro whatchu mean. Even if we get more tracks it’s just Clancy deluxe

[weak swallow]

which can be finished as easily as he killed the 7 bishops

[lean mango]

I mean, it's not impossible but it's not likely

[safe spade]

Trench had 2 if I remember correctly

[open bluff]

There's still so many questions we need answers to tho

[undone egret]

assuming that person is actually clancy...

[tawdry solstice]

I have a doubt was it really Nico ? If yes how's he alive

[weak swallow]

he resisted against nicos attempt to capture him

his eyes aren’t red

[sudden steppe]

clancy and the banditos are currently in the middle of actually taking down dema and 8/9 bishops are dead and clancy is actively being held by the last one

[lean mango]

Nico never died

[sudden steppe]

that is not an entire album's worth left to tell

[open bluff]

Keons was killed, not nico

[cloud lynx]

bro Clancy first part didn't even have that much lore (at least, narratively)

[lean mango]

wym

[tawdry solstice]

Ty

[buoyant fog]

Clancy 2 drops May 15th 2025 mark my words

[cloud lynx]

it didn't progress that much the narrative

[lean mango]

Yes, I know, I don't understand your point

[open bluff]

Another album doesn't mean that album is 100% lore

[lean mango]

^

[rancid delta]

trench did have more lore than clancy (so far) i wouldnt say no lore though

[stuck gyro]

i just feel like a year is a long wait to resolve a cliffhanger, like the hype is gonna die down after a year for any musical artist, Twenty One Pilots included. Idk what to think because june 25th is way too soon but I don't think June 2025 is super likely either

[light chasm]

You can relate songs back to lore like vignette, backslide, snap back, navigating, etc. but no songs have true lore callouts like overcomp and paladin

[cloud lynx]

well how could they not have enough lore material for a second album

[cloud lynx]

also bc ^

[lean mango]

I'm saying they do

[sudden steppe]

announcement 6/25 for something later this year

[winged sapphire]

they can annouce it on june 25

[cloud lynx]

then i might've confused you with somebody else, sorry

[mental granite]

Was that not a song transition at the end?

[cloud lynx]

or misread one of your messages

[rancid delta]

id say before the year ends personally

[lean mango]

you probably mistook what I was saying when I said "it's not likely," I meant it's not likely that he bishops are dead

[undone egret]

also how many banger songs did tyler not want to put on this album from the livestream? almost like his best songs got put on something else?

[open bluff]

It could be just like Clancy: some lore-related songs with the majority being non-lore songs

[cloud lynx]

no actually i think i confused u with Exiled lmao

[open bluff]

But we need answers to so many questions

[lean mango]

Clancy did something but I doubt he just killed a ton of people instantly, we've never seen seizing supposedly have that ability

[buoyant fog]

If the album comes out this year it has to be before August because that’s the date of the first tour

[cloud lynx]

.

[light chasm]

I want nico or the bishops mentioned in a song again that’s not hidden after 1 minute of bird noises

[tawdry solstice]

What all questions do we actually have

[lean mango]

My guess is he unseized them

[open bluff]

I think there is

[lean mango]

which would presume that the bishops seen there were again vessels being seized

[rancid delta]

i could see the opposite with this second one. most songs being lore with a few non lore ones mixed in

[lean mango]

which, idk if it's likely

but them being dead seems unlikely to me

[open bluff]

True

[rancid delta]

11 tracks like sai

[stuck gyro]

i want a full song of bird noises personally, preferably 6+ minutes long

[lean mango]

what I think will happen here, ESPECIALLY if Drag Path is the next song, is Clancy will be captured and basically taken as a hostage and the banditos will have to retreat

[open bluff]

Yeah I don't think they're dead

[cloud lynx]

@lean mango sorry for the misunderstanding/the confusion lmao

[rancid delta]

must be pretty weak if a gust of wind can kill em lol

likely just knocked out

[weak swallow]

there’s only more story if you want to watch clancy get captured (again) escape from dema (again) use his power to convert the citizens of dema (again) and confront nico (again)

[tawdry solstice]

I wish we could see more action in this mv

[lean mango]

But Drag Path clearly isn't a finale song, I mean, a lot of people assuming there's only one more song are also assuming it will be Drag Path

[cloud lynx]

there's definitely more story since it isn't the end, and this story could be spread out throughout another record

[hidden rock]

We still haven't seen Dema on fire, as it appears in the PDF

[lean mango]

And I think the next song is Drag Path, since that was the one that was teased

[rancid delta]

maybe the rest of the bishops will turn on nico and make a truce with clancy/banditos

[open bluff]

One song can't finish this

[lean mango]

But Drag Path's entire song is about Clancy being captured and helpless

[rancid delta]

nico seems to be the real problematic one

poor keons was the nicest too

[left kite]

Yeah...I think that teaser yesterday was one or the worst moves they've done tbh 😬 they showed WAY too much and they didn't leave enough reveals for the actual mv, and the one reveal they didn't show was just a cliff hanger

[sterile garnet]

I think we’re right..

[lean mango]

Why does it matter? I'd seen most of it and I still loved it

[sterile garnet]

Yeah I agree

[left kite]

Wrong channel sorry lol

[tawdry solstice]

Where can I get the pdf 🙈

[safe spade]

HELLO #1252689799597392014 message

[rancid delta]

maybe thats their way of showing the cliffhanger was the really important part

[tame tendon]

What would be better, torchbearer album or nico album

[shell kite]

i just watched the mv

w h a t ?
🧍

[lean mango]

I don't see it being either

[hidden rock]

I think is in the digital remains puzzle forum

[rancid delta]

torch

[shell kite]

we’re still alive?? double album??

[lean mango]

I think it will still be a Clancy album, maybe with a new name, maybe not

but guh

[open bluff]

Torchbearer (nico = blurryface so he already got an album)

[tame tendon]

blurry face is nicos album

[lean mango]

I'm so close to just leaving again until an announcement

[hidden rock]

For now, we don't know

[rancid delta]

we dont know enough about josh's character, while we had a whole ass album for blurryface

josh representation is needed

[cloud lynx]

it will definitely still be centered around Clancy

in some way

[lean mango]

The problem with this is, the vast majority of people stating their opinions on the double album theory haven't even seen half or more of the evidence

[hidden rock]

Well, Trench no?

[rancid delta]

they are in denial

[open bluff]

Whatever it is, I don't think this can all be resolved in a single song

[lean mango]

and it's exhausting being shot down by people who either haven't seen the evidence or are actively ignoring it

[rancid delta]

thats more banditos as a whole

[lean mango]

Like

[shell kite]

but there’s something? 😭

[light chasm]

Nico cause it would be like blurryface but mature this time

[hidden rock]

I don't see why we would have an album only for the Torchbearer

[lean mango]

I'm not convinced of a double album just for nothing, just because I hope it'll happen

[thorn prawn]

they havent said "full album out now" at all

im convinced its a double album

[lean mango]

I've done hours of analysis, digging, carefully looking at everything from many angles

[cloud lynx]

denial and probably some cope tbh

[hidden rock]

Some people are trying to put more codes in the Dema page

[thorn prawn]

they cant end it where they did

[neat iron]

Same, though I think the wholr song Navigating was already for the Torchbearer, even the lyrics

[open bluff]

There's evidence

[rancid delta]

then when it does happen theyll be like "we knew all along!!!"

[lean mango]

They'll probably just lay low and not say anything

[rain birch]

SO THATS WHY THEY SEEM SAD IN CLANCY 'OUT NOW' PHOTOSHOOT, THEY HAVENT WON (LIKE INFINITY WAR)

[tawdry solstice]

We've been talking of a double album on this forum for a while so i guess we all know there is evidence

[rain birch]

(im reachin)

[cloud lynx]

tbh i'm convinced it cannot be just one song

[hidden rock]

What if it could be an EP

[wraith gulch]

This video in my opinion added more questions than it resolved

[cloud lynx]

could be!

[worldly moat]

Clancy seized for ep!!!

[rancid delta]

too much ground to cover

[open bluff]

This was infinity war, endgame will arrive soon

[rancid delta]

problem is he avoided being seized

[safe spade]

Something something, too much stuff points to Josh and the fact that cover is FIRE when Torch carries fire means we still have more to go.....

[rancid delta]

it didnt work

[rancid delta]

"no not me, its for a friend"

[tawdry solstice]

I just want them to release the exact outfit Tyler wore on their merch store

[worldly moat]

Clancy seized - could be interpreted as him being seized or him doing the seizing

[worthy onyx]

So much for a final chapter. There’s far too much left open ended in my eyes for there not to be some EP or deluxe album

[boreal portal]

no you're not

[hidden rock]

I was hoping for a movie, but I think that would be kinda crazy xD

[open bluff]

Y'all think nothing will happen until the 25th? Maybe some blurryface twitter shenanigans

[rancid delta]

like him seizing nico? not beating him exactly, but taking back control over his own mind?

[worthy onyx]

Well just have to wait and see

[honest knot]

Josh did mention the "possibility" of an EP in an interview not that long ago

[cloud lynx]

also why teasing "clancy ultimus capitulus 25" if it's just one songs

[worthy onyx]

Exactly!

Why tease a “final chapter” if there’s not a whole lot more

[rancid delta]

the fact we got it today definitely means the 25th is open now

[worldly moat]

Yes!

[worthy onyx]

25th is still open that’s for sure

[cloud lynx]

the 25th could be the beginning of another rollout

[rancid delta]

i cant see it actually dropping then, but the announcement of it at least

[cloud lynx]

might be a new single, or just a new dmaorg thing, or a BF tweet

or even smth else

[wraith gulch]

The people saying there’s no single piece of evidence that makes it obvious there’s a double album are missing the point, imo. This is TOP - they aren’t direct, they like to tease things, to play with things, to drop hints, to hide things in songs that don’t make sense until years later, they use an alt account to mess with us hilariously, they are the ultimate tease band.

There’s no “smoking gun” single piece of evidence because they would never do that. It is in their very nature as a band to drop little hints and we have to put together the puzzle to figure it out. They’ll confirm it when they want to and not a second prior.

Again, there’s not ONE single thing by itself that says “double album 100%” but instead 100 different pieces of the puzzle that are lining up in that exact direction.

[open bluff]

The climax just happened, but a story doesn't end on a climax, there's stuff after that

[rancid delta]

albums drop fridays usually

wait hold on

[hidden rock]

There's a theory that says something like, Clancy get into a judge, which is what we see in Overcompensate

[rancid delta]

6/28 is a friday

paladin is 6:28 on the album

wait

[brazen leaf]

25th probably an announcement

[cloud lynx]

hey

still haven't watch the full mv but

(yes i will soon, dw, but)

[worthy onyx]

You’re reaching man. But it’s an idea

[open bluff]

Maybe 25th announcement (+ single) and 28th release

[cloud lynx]

does it tease another song?

like
sonically or visually

[rancid delta]

thats what im thinking here

[open bluff]

I don't think that's reaching

[rancid delta]

i still think it would be too soon

[untold fern]

It was a lot of saturation

[rancid delta]

but who knows

[golden igloo]

yeah i think 25th is announcement of sorts

[hidden rock]

The end sounds like the beginning of another song

[cloud lynx]

????? fr?

is it diff from the album version?

[tawdry solstice]

It does

[golden igloo]

paladin strait is 6:28 long and 6 28 is next friday

[tawdry solstice]

Did nobody noticed that

[golden igloo]

and 6 25 is the 25th which could tease somehting on friday

[hidden rock]

At least that's what some people are saying, me too included

[cloud lynx]

i just haven't watched the mv yet

[worthy onyx]

We’ll just have to wait and see.

[boreal portal]

a trench like song...

[hidden rock]

It sounds like there's something else

[open bluff]

It'll be the start of the clancy ultimatus capitulus 25 'era'

[tawdry solstice]

It sounded different right before it went black lol watch it

[rancid delta]

paladin MV is 5:24 when the album version is 6:28 is a weird parallel that should not be ignored

[boreal portal]

that bassline

[wraith gulch]

6/28 being a Friday is an interesting point

I like that

[cloud lynx]

imma watch the mv rn

[open bluff]

BTW THE PURPLE FLOWERS ARE A HINT FOR SURE

[hidden rock]

I would say it reminded me Overcompensate

[rancid delta]

PURPLE ALBUM THEORISTS RISEEEE

[open bluff]

LETS GOOO

[boreal portal]

overcompenate is trench like

[hidden rock]

Which purple flowers!?

[tawdry solstice]

They gon run Outta colors

[open bluff]

At the very start besides the antlers

[cloud lynx]

im scared lol

[hidden rock]

Mm... I would put them in different categories but oka

[rancid delta]

ourple

[open bluff]

They didn't put those flowers there for nothing

[hidden rock]

Thanks!

[long rose]

ourple theory

[safe spade]

Bringing this back Red+Blue = Purple....

[hidden rock]

Is it my idea or some flowers are growing directly from the bones?

Does it change something?

[open bluff]

Wait I never noticed the blue light

[tawdry solstice]

Bruh

[safe spade]

In the blue room there are yellow flowers!

[hidden rock]

I'll be back, I'll watch the MV again!

[open bluff]

I don't really see it

[ember rivet]

This is real

[open bluff]

Blue + yellow....

Green era?? /j

[boreal portal]

5/24

[tawdry solstice]

Red - current
Blue- Sai
Yellow - trench
Therefore purple next

[boreal portal]

the album been dropped 5/24

[safe spade]

I pointed that out earlier, funny enough 6/28 is a FRIDAY

[winged sapphire]

hai any |-

[tawdry solstice]

Also yes the |- is half symbol so I think the second half of the album or something will come soon ?

[rancid delta]

it straight up sounds like the start of a new song

[winged sapphire]

this literally prob isnt the end yet

[open bluff]

100%

[wraith gulch]

Ain’t no way this the end

[shell garden]

It’s the end of mulberry street live version

[cosmic nest]

Holy shit good point! Just like how Next semester had Midwest Indigo at the beginning!!!

[tawdry solstice]

Wait really

[shell garden]

Yeah go check

[rancid delta]

and the i am clancy video started with a snippet of overcompensate

people thought the piano bit wasnt gonna be a part of it but it was

[hidden rock]

I TOLD YOU

Hey but the camping tents have horns of Ned's, no!?

Beginning of another song

[cosmic nest]

I sounds like the beginning of a rap trap like HDS

[rancid delta]

omg

theres more horns

[cloud lynx]

hey

[tawdry solstice]

Holy sh

[hidden rock]

Does it sound similar??

[boreal portal]

yes

[cosmic nest]

Let us cook

[rancid delta]

"destruction to the city"

hmm

[shell garden]

I think it says “there was a wonderful structure to the city”

[rancid delta]

says it in redecorate too

does it actually? i hear destruction. ive always said it that way lol

[open bluff]

Which was in the letters too

[shell garden]

Oh shitttt

[open bluff]

Yes it's structure

[rancid delta]

aight

[dry shale]

Is the structure the main tower?

[tawdry solstice]

Wonderful was not at all audible for me

[hidden rock]

Yeahhh

[open bluff]

Like the first two lines in redecorate before tyler starts are in one of the clancy letters

[tawdry solstice]

Ah

[tame tendon]

Where could I see the evidence?

[cloud lynx]

OMG? the last 3 seconds did sound like a new song

[winged sapphire]

wait whos tower did he climb

[rancid delta]

sounds like it could be jumpsuit esque

[cloud lynx]

idk could also be more like uh... synth bass

like electro of some sort

or trap/hip hop
a heavy bass but not guitar bass

[open bluff]

Good question, probably nico's

[rancid delta]

this is not rap this is not hip hop just another attempt to make the voices stop

[open bluff]

Cuz he is looking for nico

[dry shale]

In DR thread they posted that ending sound is like the Mulberry Street live version one

[tawdry solstice]

It's interesting that there's a war going on but the song is giving low energy vibes idk how else to explain it

[hidden rock]

Apparently someone listened that

[dry shale]

What’s the connection with Mulberry Street?

[winged sapphire]

I KNEW IT

MULBERRY IS LORE

[hidden rock]

With the Livestream version

The end sounds like the end of this PS MV

[rancid delta]

thing is, they didnt HAVE to put that extra sound at the end. the album version has nothing after the hello clancy bit

[mental granite]

It literally sounds like a song transition

[rancid delta]

they are clearly nudging us in the "theres more" direction

[open bluff]

Yeah

[tawdry solstice]

Is this gonna be more about mulberry or more about redecorate

[rancid delta]

id say redecorate

[cloud lynx]

it's a bit like the teaser at the end of I am Clancy

[hidden rock]

Btw, why did Tyler/Clancy didn't have to dance this time to use the seazing power? Or I don't know if he doesn't need it to activate it. Just checking because in the The Outside MV he dances

[rancid delta]

they did say redecorate was suppsoed to be "a hint to where were going next sonically"

but clancy doesnt sound like redecorate at all

[hidden rock]

Also, his eyes were not yellow this time, when he used the power

[wraith gulch]

And Tyler is still officially silent which I think is important

[tawdry solstice]

He didn't even change eye colour

[cloud lynx]

yeah this wasn't seizing i think

[opal matrix]

They have to have a new album, or is not over no matter if they do a double album or not

[tawdry solstice]

I'd say he didn't size yet.

[wraith gulch]

This was smearing

[shell garden]

I don’t think he was siezing

[wraith gulch]

Like in jumpsuit

[cloud lynx]

it's also weird how the bishops were not moving

[wraith gulch]

Grabbed by the throat

[cloud lynx]

almost like an ambush

[hidden rock]

Exactly!

[opal matrix]

Their energy was focused on their ritual so they could not move

[cloud lynx]

ooh

maybe

[rancid delta]

what if nico betrayed them and took their energy tho

he did kinda FLY to tyler

[tawdry solstice]

Or maybe they made it a quick ambush while they saw the banditos marching towards dema

[hidden rock]

I was thinking, hey but, literally these guys saw them coming from far, didn't they have enough time to at least escape?

[hot stream]

What would you rate the MV?

above 7/10
below 7/10

[cloud lynx]

i still do think the banditos might be winning the war outside

[rancid delta]

they also stared at him for a minute

[dry shale]

Mulberry Street says:

When times aren’t the best
And I’m on the edge
I’ll listen for a song in the distance

Does that mean Clancy is captured and now has to wait for Tyler and the banditos to save him with/in a new song?

[rancid delta]

like they wanted to get hit

[hidden rock]

The thing is, do they really need to be focused to do that?

[cloud lynx]

at least it seemed like that

[tawdry solstice]

Video is definitely above 7 I wish the teaser wasn't as revealing

[shell garden]

Idk it probably takes a lot of energy to create an undead army

[opal matrix]

Well they have never done something like that before, correct me if I’m wrong

[hidden rock]

Exactly, which is why, unless that is everything planned by Nico/Blurryface

[tame tendon]

It does, I would know

[opal matrix]

Something that big

[cloud lynx]

yes!

[shell garden]

Thank you for the confirmation, no questions will be asked

[hidden rock]

But they stared at him tho

[opal matrix]

True

[hidden rock]

Like, giving him time to hit them

[cloud lynx]

Clancy was too focused on finding Nico and was too overconfident that he didn't realize the trap

[opal matrix]

So they could move but chose not to 🤔

[shell garden]

Maybe they realised/thought they had already lost so didn’t bother idk

[cloud lynx]

they could've easily knocked him out

[rancid delta]

"I know it's over
I was born a choker
Nobody's coming for me, coming for me"

[open bluff]

I think they already won cuz the bishops who were controlling them got knocked down by clancy

[cosmic jewel]

why nobody's talking about the number of the boshops???

[rancid delta]

now he has people on the way

[hidden rock]

Is still 8 against 1

[opal matrix]

Omg yes

[hidden rock]

So for sure

[cloud lynx]

Nico is still alive tho
they haven't totally win

[rancid delta]

we want you home in one piece now

[open bluff]

But nico wasn't controlling them

[opal matrix]

I saw 8 there should be only 7

[shell garden]

There were 7+Nico, because Keons is dead

[winged zenith]

theres 7 bishops because keons is dead and nico is in the back room, the number makes sense

[opal matrix]

Unless they got another 😱

[opal matrix]

Oh there is 7 nvm

[rancid delta]

7 albums

[tawdry solstice]

Wait I'm confused

[rancid delta]

nico 8th

[hidden rock]

Nono

[cosmic jewel]

it's ok? I know Keons died

[opal matrix]

Still checks out

[cosmic jewel]

Nico

[open bluff]

Nah 25 albums I think

[hidden rock]

GUYS, THERE'S JUST 7,

[tawdry solstice]

Yeah it checks out

[rancid delta]

300 tracks in my adidas track jacket

[tawdry solstice]

We just talked about this lol

[opal matrix]

Ik Keons died remember

[shell garden]

Womp womp

[hot stream]

One thing was a bit lackluster was Tyler just one shorting every bishop 💀 couldn’t they like defend their selves or at least do something?

Ok I get it they might have been seizing the vultures to spectate the attack, but like couldn’t they see Clancy climbing up the tower? Weird stuff

[cosmic jewel]

Ok, maybe i'm just cooked can't do basic maths anymore

[opal matrix]

Go to #1253368926314954814 for that whole story guys

[open bluff]

Or 8325 songs

[rancid delta]

he had red on him too he clearly wasnt hiding

[wraith gulch]

READ THIS

[rancid delta]

they def saw him

[shell garden]

They were seizing the glorious gone no? Which is why they all dropped to the ground after Clancy killed them

[storm fable]

I actually kinda liked that,
because the bishops are kinda weak, they hide behind people by using them, but in reality they're not that strong, they just use others insecurities to their advantage

[cosmic jewel]

They were originally 9, minus Keons 8. So numbers ok

[opal matrix]

Ok 7 😮‍💨

[wraith gulch]

READ THIS

[dry shale]

Ya seems like Nico is much stronger than the other ones. Makes sense being the leader

[cosmic jewel]

Sorry for pointing at NOTHING

[hidden rock]

Tell me what you see

[tawdry solstice]

Nt

[rancid delta]

if there is a second album it would be their 8th...

hmm

[shell garden]

Are you talking about “prequel” ?

[wraith gulch]

Yes

Prequel/sequel

As in two part

[tawdry solstice]

We should have gotten more Josh fight slow motion shots

[rancid delta]

prequel being paladin, sequel being what follows? or is it about the cycle

[shell garden]

Got me a little bit excited but I’m not sure it means anything

[wraith gulch]

About what follows. Songs/ep/double album

[hidden rock]

Isn't more about the fact that Paladin has a prequel?

[opal matrix]

Isn’t blurryface about the main stuff of violentism tho

[wraith gulch]

Unless paladin the video is part 1 of a 2 part video they did

[shell garden]

Petition to rename vialism to violentism

[tawdry solstice]

Lol

[dry shale]

Little thing I noticed in the mv I liked was that Clancy originally looked to Josh before going to battle . Then when the lyrics got to the point of no return it was Josh that looked back.
Clancy realized he had to do what was right, no turning back

[hidden rock]

What bothers me also is that "Paladin Strait" is a sea, but he's never crossing any sea

[opal matrix]

lol it’s so good I won’t correct my spelling

[hot stream]

That’s an amazing answer not gonna lie

[tawdry solstice]

Yeah it's great direction work

[shell garden]

He already did it tbf at the end of overcompensate

[dawn kettle]

you can get to dema not crossing paladin

[opal matrix]

Also what is with the #1253804333796163725?

[dry shale]

Maybe when he says he WOULD swim the Paladin Strait he’s referring to his dedication to the cause

[hidden rock]

Then what's the point of calling the song "Paladin Strait"?

[tawdry solstice]

Or swimming through the dead bodies or something jk

[hidden rock]

But Overcompensate is the beginning of the album, not the last song

[dawn kettle]

because its a place on the map of trench

[tawdry solstice]

I so wish the map actually resembled something

[rancid delta]

we never saw this stuff

[opal matrix]

That one island in Hawaii:

[dry shale]

I saw a post where they overlaid Trash the dragon over it

[dawn kettle]

map of where everything took place up to clancy

[hidden rock]

Yeah, I got that but, don't you think it's weird that the song's name is not directly related to the mv? Unless that I'm just crazy xD

[shell garden]

He can be referencing it, he even mentions “glimpse of visual aid, of you on the other shoreline” which would be the banditos over the ocean at the end of The Outside MV

[hidden rock]

But it could also be Nico and the Niners, no?

[dawn kettle]

hes most likely refrencing voldsoy, its the place where the neds reside, a place not corrupted by the bishops or even the banditos

[opal matrix]

TO CLEAR THINGS UP:

Not all lyrics are literal in the final song. The glimpse of you on the other shore line is him looking to the future for help. The double clancys aren’t real it is just him looking to the past as well for help. The paladin strait is just a symbol for how dedicated he is, hints the title name.

[hidden rock]

Oka, that makes more sense for me

[dawn kettle]

true they do write the songs first and pair them up to lore

[shell garden]

There isn’t a shoreline in NATN is there? I haven’t watched the mv in a hot minute

[dawn kettle]

no theyre way further up in trench for that video

[storm fable]

also hear out my delusion,
but if there's a double album, then paladin strait is both literally a place that transitions from one place to the next, but also serves as the transition point to the new album

[shell garden]

FACTSSSSSSS

[wraith gulch]

Yup

[shell garden]

THERE ARE SOME GENIUSES IN HERE

[hidden rock]

Like that it makes sense to be called "Paladin Strait"

[dawn kettle]

ok you have to be tyler hiding amongst us with that fire theory

[sly hazel]

My hot take is the sound at the end of PS is the start of the first song on the second album

[winged zenith]

this is the only thing i can bullshit out of these guys

[hidden rock]

SHOW YOURSELF, I YELL LOUDER!

[winged zenith]

the s could also be an 8 potentially

[sly hazel]

And if they do deluxe
Then they will do the music video version of PS on the deluxe album and literally transition it into the B side

[dawn kettle]

could it be our language? like the one used in LOC?

[onyx nimbus]

he literally says "i WOULD swim the paladin strait"
not "i WILL swim the paladin strait"

[winged zenith]

if i knew what that meant, i would say maybe

[hidden rock]

It seems to sound more like the end of mulberry street Livestream version

[dawn kettle]

these ones

[winged zenith]

i shall brainstorm

[storm fable]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be-2WF2UBjc
I did see someone on twitter point out how similar it sounds to this though

[shell garden]

PTSD

[dawn kettle]

should of gave a trigger warning for all of us in the trenches for that period of time

[winged zenith]

i dont think so, honestly there are too many curved lines for it to be this

[shell garden]

I got my USB out of it so it wasn’t all bad

[dawn kettle]

i didnt get mine 😦

[cloud lynx]

and it'd be heavy 🔥

[tawdry solstice]

I stayed up two days for that puzzle lol

[dawn kettle]

do you have the flipped pic without the red on it? just dont want to scroll up billions of messages to find it

[dawn kettle]

same

wasnt the same

[dawn kettle]

thx

[tawdry solstice]

Looks like 8 25 to me

Or at least that's what I wanna see

[neat iron]

What if the drag path song is about Josh/Torchbearer coming to save him?
Clancy is confident he will find him?

[wraith gulch]

Someone in verified pointed out that this exact shot was intentionally cut out of the DMAORG preview we saw yesterday—in a way that makes it clear they didn’t want this shot seen

[cloud lynx]

wait wait, did they actually go to Iceland for this mv? doesn't seem like it

[wraith gulch]

No

[cloud lynx]

wtf

then

👀

[wraith gulch]

Shot in Simi Valley, CA

[cloud lynx]

but

we know they went to Iceland at some point

[tawdry solstice]

I'd say there's a really good chance that Josh is going to be of more importance in the coming song/s

[neat iron]

What if the MV is only HALF of the story, just like the |- is only half of the symbol?

It's like

[wraith gulch]

Someone said maybe the Iceland photog took photos of scenery to use as inspiration for the cgi

[neat iron]

"Part one"

|-

So... Part two... -/ ?

[cloud lynx]

would make sense and be actually great

[hidden rock]

Well it makes sense if we take "Paladin Strait" as a connector

[tawdry solstice]

It's interesting that there aren't any familiar faces in the banditos army

[neat iron]

For sure, Paladin Strait is what leads to Dema, to the end basically

It's the "in between"

[tawdry solstice]

Like they could have used that as a story element

[neat iron]

"So beautiful, the space between"

[pure timber]

Double album truthers

We will win

[dawn kettle]

TRUE!

[winged sapphire]

i really wonder how long rendering this took

[cloud lynx]

this is just the "climax to the story"

👀

[dawn kettle]

all the days that we missed the first clue for the teaser

[dawn kettle]

agreed!

[winged sapphire]

where that from

[hidden rock]

Tyler screaming "DID YOU PULL UP YET?"

XD

[hidden rock]

I think from "Isle of the Flightless Birds"

Since it starts saying that

[boreal portal]

NOW IS THE CLIMAX

TO THE STORY

[sly hazel]

In 4K too!

[warm plover]

I find it hard to believe one song can wrap up that cliffhanger. 7inch 33rpm EP.

An EP or short lore record makes sense.

Clancy seized for EP. The talks of keeping navigating off of the album during the live stream (to put on another record), Josh running a 10k (just above) 6.25miles at 7’33 (33 rpm record on 7 inch for an EP)

[cloud lynx]

... that gives the demons and angels purpose

😌

[dawn kettle]

was looking back at the overhead image, thinking it could be another numerical language

[timber pasture]

we’re so back double album truthers y’all heard that snippet at the end

[somber ocean]

UM https://x.com/Rainier_Sky/status/1804232964219564504

RAINIER IS SEEING TØP AUGUST 21ST (@Rainier_Sky) on X

IS THAT THE FAKE LEAK DRAG PATH??? ARE WE GETTING OIL CANS FOR REAL???

#twentyonepilots

Twitter · Jun 21, 2024, 7:20 PM

WTF

THAT SOUNDS EERILY SIMILAR

[shell garden]

Pretty similar but I don’t think it’s the same

[dawn kettle]

yeah drag paths is a bit higher with a more clean tone while the one in paladin is a distorted bass

[rancid delta]

note done. not done. not done. josh dun.

[rancid delta]

oil is flammable 👀

"I'll be right there
But you'll have to grab my throat and lift me in the air
If you need anyone
I'll stop my plans
But you'll have to tie me down and then break both my hands"

[fair dirge]

OHHHHHH

[fair dirge]

Shit I don't want to see Clancy's broken hands

[reef oxide]

Lets talk 2 there has been multiple instances throughout the album clancy where he uses two as a motive

Don't sleep on a boy who can't fall asleep twice
In the same night, - overcompensate

I don't wanna be here, I don't wanna be here
What's about to happen? What's about to happen?
-next semester (might be a stretch but double sentences)

Backslide i didn't see anything?

Midwest indigo
You make me sad and second-guess myse
What’s your ETA?
Two minutes
Chill out, man, we’re right on time

Ritn nothing really

Vignette also nothing

Lavish
Got both hands on your shoulder kinda

Navigating was nothing

Snap back
Fool you once, it’s been twenty-five times there is 25 again thats that

Oldies have nothing

Arofd
Used to be you and me, matching Kawasaki Z’s
Ride around 270 in Kawasaki tees
Two fighter jets matching energy
Trying to forget that we’re in ejection seats

And the PS the ending?

So yeah there seems to be evidence

[next fossil]

Btw in the digital remains there are a few pictures where clancy is laying on the ground (surrounded by fire)......I think this shows us that there is possibly also another video coming out since this hasn't happened yet

[dawn kettle]

when tyler said
I see your problem is your proctologist
Got both hands on your shoulder while you're bottomless.
what did this mean for the lore!?!?!?!??!

[floral holly]

Hey guys

[reef oxide]

A nice way to say get Fed

[floral holly]

No spoilers for mv but is there another album coming

[wraith gulch]

Still can’t say either way with 100% certainty. But it does appear likely. The extent of which is unclear, whether one more song or a whole album.

[rancid delta]

BRUH

|-

june 22nd last year

[fair dirge]

WHOA

[barren saffron]

Am I the only one that thinks it’s weird the announcement for Paladin Strait called it the “13th track in Clancy” and not the last track on Clancy?

[reef oxide]

We still didn't see from the full length album clancy 👀

[rancid delta]

people are getting emails saying its the "final music video" for clancy as well

[tired halo]

No mines said “track 13 on the album Clancy”

[barren saffron]

Oh?

[reef oxide]

Second album will have different name

[tired halo]

My email doesn’t say final music video

[rancid delta]

from reddit

[reef oxide]

Same

[rancid delta]

exactly what im thinking. not a deluxe. a double.

[barren saffron]

Weird

[tired halo]

Any theory that includes more music, I will support wholeheartedly

[fair dirge]

We said that like 25372 times before

[reef oxide]

Torchbearer

Blue or purple album

[rancid delta]

purple/cyan

[barren saffron]

I figured

[reef oxide]

Claim cyan didn't we see this as a clue somewhere?

[barren saffron]

Idk, Tyler said the plan was always to return to red. 🤷‍♀️

I guess we’ll see though

[reef oxide]

Maybe we never know with this man👀

[storm fable]

Not blue as in defeat,
Not red as in taking back the color and winning,
but the in between... a truce 👀

[rancid delta]

and they did

what now

[cosmic jewel]

yes. It's the file name of one of the last letters on the DMAORG site

[olive plume]

the band usually wants us to “complete” the logo so i thought them commenting “|-” on the youtube video was just their way of saying the story is ours now and it’s our turn to complete it?

[barren saffron]

Well yeah, but idk man they’re big in branding with color

[cosmic jewel]

http://dmaorg.info/found/15398642_14/img/9b20fd14d086/__cla_im00FFFF.jpeg

http://dmaorg.info/found/ 15398642_14/ img/9b20fd14d086/__cla_im00FFFF.jpeg

[barren saffron]

Changing that midway in the introduction of an era would be wild, that doesn’t mean it wouldn’t happen, but it would be bold

[reef oxide]

What song do you hear at the end its mulberry street live ending wich transition to lane boy but before that we had this line There was a wonderful structure to the city
And it put my cares to rest

[barren saffron]

No.

Reasoning: I want a double-album

[reef oxide]

Oh yeah

[rancid gust]

I feel like every time something happens, I lean further and further toward double album

[rancid delta]

red and blue

literally the top logo

[barren saffron]

I’ve actually leaned a little away from the double album since the music video (not much I’m still 65/35 toward a double)

[rancid gust]

Why’s that?

[barren saffron]

The music video seems like a bridge to a new album—another half of the story—but it also ended in a way that feels more like it could be an ambiguous ending than u thought

I expected even more of a cliffhanger tbf

[rancid delta]

ah yes, ending the story being choked

[rancid gust]

I feel like nobody would be happy if it ended here

[rancid delta]

if it was the end, why didnt it start they cycle over again then

[candid flume]

clancy, i am your daddy

[barren saffron]

Tyler did say the ending would be ambiguous and be debated endlessly by fans 🤷‍♀️

[storm fable]

I would be okay with it, even though i reallly want more, it works really well as an ending imo

[rancid gust]

They’d just make a bunch of people mad

[barren saffron]

It did?

[rancid delta]

how?

those synths are new

[barren saffron]

Or it could be interpreted that way at least

[rancid gust]

Agreed, if that was the intention I think they would’ve clarified it at the very end

We don’t even know if Clancy lost just now

[barren saffron]

He literally grabbed his throat just like Jumpsuit and Tyler became paralyzed just like Jumpsuit

[rancid gust]

We even got music coming in at the last second

[rain birch]

nah, all of bishop die except nico

[barren saffron]

I agree on both counts

[rancid delta]

jumpsuit is not the start of the cycle

[barren saffron]

I don’t think it’s explicit that they died

[stuck gyro]

true but he opened his eyes, like possibly showing he's ready to fight back. so i don't think it's the end

[barren saffron]

It was the music video introduction to the era

[rancid gust]

When y’all are wrong I’m gonna come back here and laugh. We haven’t even hit 6/25 yet

[barren saffron]

Do you want him in a car? Is that the only way it would be final?

[storm fable]

The way i interperate the ending at the moment... is clancy has been captured again, it's a parallel to the smearing scene in jumpsuit, but in the last second we his eyes open, and he's not afraid, this time he's not being controlled, there's hope you can break the cycle

[vivid raft]

A car A torch A death 🤯🤯

[rancid delta]

literally yes

[barren saffron]

Hence the ambiguity. Like I said I think it seems like the bridge to another album, I’m just saying it seems more complete as is than I expected.

[storm fable]

hot take, but I think ending in the hds car would be a kinda predictable and lame ending

[rancid delta]

blurryface is canon to the story

its a part of the cycle

[rancid gust]

As a movie watcher and book reader, there is 0 chance this is the end, new music or not. I would put $100 on it

[barren saffron]

That is a hot take lol

[rancid gust]

If I wasn’t broke

[vivid raft]

Clancy finna ram Nico with the car and burn it 😂😂

[barren saffron]

I literally said I’m leaning pretty significantly to a double album lol

[barren saffron]

And have for a long while lmao

[storm fable]

I really think they're more creative than that, even if they want to show it's all a cycle, they could come up with something more interesting to show that, literally everyone has been saying it would end with hds

[vivid raft]

Getting captured again?

[barren saffron]

I’m okay either way. I think a the car at the end while slightly cliché could still hit hard, but a more creative way to express that I would also be okay with

[storm fable]

I honestly would rather hear the truce piano come back as a motif, like we had with leave the city, feel like that would be more impactful

[rain birch]

i dont think they will end it with cycle, if that happens, what the difference it would make with leave the city

[pure timber]

Plus they already did that with goner

[storm fable]

that's true, i think even with what we know, the cycle has already been broken, we're past the point of no return, whatever happens next, there's no going back

[barren saffron]

I’d respect a fourth wall break like leave the city where Tyler straight-up says that Trench, while beautiful, isn’t a world he wants to use to express himself anymore.

Sampling Leave The City in Overcompensate makes that not terribly unlikely imo

[storm fable]

If written correctly that would be really cool, like something really poetic while we see both dema and trench burn down...
"sometimes to stay alive you've gotta kill your mind"

[barren saffron]

I’d respect the hell out of it honestly

We’d also get Dema on fire like we see in the Digital Remains

[cedar cradle]

Hm I went to bed and woke up to nothing new

[small turtle]

they lured Clancy back so they could control him

[royal valley]

ending of ps

[rancid delta]

they arent controlling him though

he wasnt seized

[olive plume]

tyler’s tweet doesn’t make me feel too good with all this

[patent coral]

This thread is a never ending rollercoaster

[safe spade]

Hmmm his tweet....

[rancid delta]

i swear if theres more and its tour based only i will lose it

not all of us can afford touring mr joseph

[ripe wharf]

I’m attending their 25’th tour date and I’m hoping it’s good luck somehow 😂

[wraith gulch]

He likes to mess with us. There’s whole continents they haven’t announced yet (like asia) ain’t no way they’re gate keeping that

[safe spade]

I know they said it streches out beyond the album but it still doesnt maake sense for it to ONLY be the tour?!?

[fleet pier]

And they have specifically come out in the past if a theory that’s being chased doesn’t lead to new music. He’s aware of the double album theory and no one has said anything denying that.

[cedar cradle]

What’d he say

[fleet pier]

And I can’t go back and pull it up now since Twitter removed the likes, but I do remember him liking a meme that Keons posted about a double album named Cletus on the 25th of june

[storm fable]

also i've done some digging and pitch shifting, and the paladin strait ending is not the same as the mulberry street > lane boy transition,
it sounds super similar but it's not the same, very well could be a new song

[wraith gulch]

“See you at the show”

[storm fable]

it also could be him trying to tell us we're not getting anything until during or after the tour... like 2025

[safe spade]

👀 Its a trap.....OG routines lyrics mentioned him being in a trap

[wraith gulch]

Ohhh

[dawn kettle]

he didnt say see you after the show tho, he said see you AT the show

[dawn kettle]

DRAG PATH DEVILS EYES?

[storm fable]

well yeah, basically like... you're probably not gonna see anything from us until the tour, see you there

[olive plume]

if that’s the case, can they at least do some promo or marketing or Something instead of being silent

[storm fable]

basically i think we're gonna get total silence from them until touring starts

well hopefully

but idk

[zinc pendant]

How do we feel about double album?

[dawn kettle]

DOUBLE ALBUM REAL!

[storm fable]

the doubt is strong right now

but I want to believe

(in reality I don't expect anything more than 1 more song, but now i'm not even sure about that)

but still, I want to believe there's more so badly

[fluid horizon]

Time for me to reach
It doesn't say the final track

[rancid delta]

"final video" doesnt mean final track

[pallid sierra]

the caption on the instagram post "climb the top of the tower." has 6 words and 22 characters... are we getting somthing tomorrow??

[rancid delta]

one thing im confused about though is if there is a second album, why did they want music videos for all the clancy songs so badly? would they do the same for this second album?

maybe they already did a long time ago?

[compact arrow]

Rise my believers

[cloud lynx]

https://x.com/tylerrjoseph/status/1804269608116851062

tyler jøseph (@tylerrjoseph) on X

see you at the show

Twitter · Jun 21, 2024, 9:46 PM

[split island]

I will never stop believing

[cloud lynx]

what does he mean

[rancid delta]

its not over til its over

[cloud lynx]

i refuse to believe it's all gonna happen at the show

[split island]

that his adorable sweet face is still lying to us

[fair dirge]

Don't even doubt in the double album

[cloud lynx]

[rancid delta]

what if they literally mean "a show"

like a tv show

[fair dirge]

Nahh

[dawn kettle]

THE DOUBLE ALBUM WILL HAPPEN, IF IT DOESNT WE'LL MAKE OUR OWN

[cloud lynx]

https://x.com/tylerrjoseph/status/1804269610486894788

tyler jøseph (@tylerrjoseph) on X

https://t.co/x9zuFYbikm

Twitter · Jun 21, 2024, 9:46 PM

no

he linked the tour dates just after

but well

he also said early june

and that it was the end

[rancid delta]

this is tyler were talking about

[fallow violet]

this literally still doesnt explain clancy ultimus capitulus 25

[cloud lynx]

i think the final chapter could be after the tour

[dawn kettle]

heres the thing, he says see you at the show, if the next thing will be revealed at the concets, then which concert?

[cloud lynx]

in 2025

[fallow violet]

clowning still on, tyler is literally just fucking around with us

[cloud lynx]

what if that's what he means

[fair dirge]

I will be an mv extra

[fallow violet]

hes not giving anything away

if this was the end he wouldnt be doing this

[fallow violet]

but the tour most likely will last until 2026

[cloud lynx]

a second leg

[fallow violet]

the bandito tour was supposed to last until 2020 too,

[dawn kettle]

WAIT HOLD ON LET MY DEMENTED BRAIN COOK, WHAT IF HE MENT BY SEE YOU AT THE SHOW HE MEANS GOOD DAY DEMA AND IS THROWING US OFF TRACK BY POSTING THE TOUR DATES???? NO I AM NOT INSANE

[fallow violet]

they are most likely doing a tour on that scale again

[cloud lynx]

the current tour does end in 2025

[rancid delta]

two tours

[cloud lynx]

they could still release a second album after the first tour and then tour again