at least to me
#Double Album Confirmed
warm crescent
but due to the band’s silence i will be blocking out all reasoning and believing that this is the start of the rollout 🙏
olive plume
i guess they could post something at 3… or later this evening
they posted the mexico recap at 3:30
that’s in an hour
and they posted about the digital remains at 6 that evening so they’ve posted late before so. maybe we can still get an announcement 
warm crescent
i fear we may have another week left fellas 
ripe wharf
I’m holding onto hope for a video dropped at 6:25 pm est
lean mango
3h remain
maiden fox
WHERE IS IT
maiden fox
They would do something like that
cloud lynx
haha
imagine
imagine they lied to us and Paladin Strait MV doesn't come out early June + instead they go silence => re-album rollout with the billboards and stuff
🧌
winged sapphire
paladin mv
may come with double album
tbh
it is excepted
like it would make sense
winged sapphire
WAITING
cloud lynx
Something DID happen today
winged sapphire
?
cloud lynx
the billboards
winged sapphire
yes
fallow violet
cant believe tyler was online and still hasnt said anything to us like damn
cloud lynx
maybe they wanted this date, 7th June, to tease the [thing they're teasing probably an album], and not to release the MV
fallow violet
even if its coming next week id love an announcement at least
cloud lynx
maybe they wanted this date, 7th June, to tease the [thing they're teasing proba...
cuz i believe they teased this date, no?
glacial fulcrum
https://tenor.com/view/rickroll-roll-rick-never-gonna-give-you-up-never-gonna-gi...
Watch them do this
glacial fulcrum
cant believe tyler was online and still hasnt said anything to us like damn
Literally 😭
cloud lynx
cuz i believe they teased this date, no?
.
glacial fulcrum
I still on copium they'll do something at 6:25 est...
distant beacon
maybe they wanted this date, 7th June, to tease the [thing they're teasing proba...
Well they’d need to announce something within the next few hours.
distant beacon
3:26
cloud lynx
Well they’d need to announce something within the next few hours.
yeah, we still got time
distant beacon
Doubtful for today. Doesn’t make much sense to do much outside of the Simone Weil connection and “early June”
cloud lynx
what if gay
winged sapphire
gay
cloud lynx
!!!!!
winged sapphire
gay mv
cloud lynx
‼️
fallow violet
Doubtful for today. Doesn’t make much sense to do much outside of the Simone Wei...
well by now we can tell that they clearly have a different idea of early june
distant beacon
well by now we can tell that they clearly have a different idea of early june
definitely 13th or 14th is most likely with an announcement likely the day before
cloud lynx
Doubtful for today. Doesn’t make much sense to do much outside of the Simone Wei...
they did do smth today at least
the billboards
winged sapphire
mhm
cloud lynx
that's smth
winged sapphire
any second album
fallow violet
definitely 13th or 14th is most likely with an announcement likely the day befor...
yeah i agree, but its still not early june to me 😭
distant beacon
Billboards I don’t count. They’ve done stuff the past weeks randomly. Just random album promotion
glacial fulcrum
Well, there's still Sunday since people like the idea of 'Domingo en fuego', also it's the 9th and also halfway between the album release and June 25th
distant beacon
Industry things.
winged sapphire
well by now we can tell that they clearly have a different idea of early june
because a early june to me, is not a early june for you okay frien
silent cairn
I lean towards it not being a tease, but you never know,
cloud lynx
Billboards I don’t count. They’ve done stuff the past weeks randomly. Just rando...
post-album release, on this specific date?
distant beacon
Well, there's still Sunday since people like the idea of 'Domingo en fuego', als...
This would be cool, but tbh we’ll have to see…
distant beacon
post-album release, on this specific date?
what?
wraith gulch
In the same city the first billboard was this era
distant beacon
Sure but I mean posters have been up in the UK and the U.S. before this so
fallow violet
This would be cool, but tbh we’ll have to see…
have they ever released something on a weekend
cloud lynx
what?
billboards post album release? on a day that seems to be symbolically important or was at least teased previously?
on the same city they did the first billboard this era?
distant beacon
have they ever released something on a weekend
Don’t think so…
distant beacon
billboards post album release? on a day that seems to be symbolically important ...
billboards/posters post release are just there for album promotion…not much else tbh.
winged sapphire
they kinda did
fallow violet
No but they’ve also never done a double album so
or released a music video thats not meant to be a single
winged sapphire
mhm
cloud lynx
billboards/posters post release are just there for album promotion…not much else...
but on THIS date? 7th June specifically?
and apparently on the same city they did the first billboard this era?
winged sapphire
BTW sorry for off-topic
we are getting a new emoji (hopefully soon) and its gonna be a amazing emoji done by me
distant beacon
That’s grabbing at straws imo 😭
cloud lynx
i'm not saying u're wrong, u could be right and it could just be normal album promotion
but dude that's just weird, this combination of specific elements
winged sapphire
are yall ready :3
distant beacon
It’s not weird imo
winged sapphire
its a amazing emoji
glacial fulcrum
We just don't know anything atp 😭
glacial fulcrum
are yall ready :3
Yuh!!
distant beacon
They’ve done with stuff with trench especially
winged sapphire
i did it in 20 seconds
distant beacon
SAI was less post release but that’s due to Covid
fallow violet
like the only reason why i think it does not have to be on thursday/friday is because this isnt a single release so therefore it doesnt really matter which day its out
wraith gulch
Agreed
winged sapphire
early june
silent cairn
I still wonder if we'll get an edit of Paladin Strait with the ending cut down.
wraith gulch
To me tonight or Saturday makes a lot of sense if they want to max viewership
fallow violet
but i still think its big enough of a thing to be announced a week prior. so im lowkey sad we didnt get any heads up yet
distant beacon
Weekend release makes sense for viewership, yea.
glacial fulcrum
like the only reason why i think it does not have to be on thursday/friday is be...
I'm convinced the label will let them do anything they want at this point
They've proved themselves
winged sapphire
^
distant beacon
I'm convinced the label will let them do anything they want at this point
that is…ehhhhhhh
silent cairn
I'd be more willing to bet on tomorrow than Sunday.
winged sapphire
saturday
glacial fulcrum
that is…ehhhhhhh
They've been experimental from the start, and it's always worked. Who's to say what they'll do next?
Idk really
I'm just saying they can push the boundaries much more
Than some other bands
cloud lynx
i mean they do have some liberties with their label
silent cairn
FBR said they could do Neon Gravestones, but was really careful to warn them.
Like if NG had went over wrong their careers would be over.
distant beacon
I mean sure their label is decently flexible but they still control literally everything of the band…ESPECIALLY PROMOTION WISE
winged sapphire
iirc they only signed to a label to make more live shows
silent cairn
I imagine they like FBR handling marketing.
it takes a lot of work to setup billboards/stuff
cloud lynx
but i also guess they (the band) do have their own plans and discuss with the label
winged sapphire
i just sometimes forget top is a music band lmafo
cloud lynx
iirc they only signed to a label to make more live shows
i'm wondering if they might go independent or make their own label one day
winged sapphire
folina records would go hard
i mean black eyed peas has their own label but they are still under epic music
/records
distant beacon
Possibly but tbh they’re comfortable with their current label
silent cairn
I imagine Warner Music is less nice than FBR.
FBR is really kind of small compared to WMG overall.
silent cairn
I get the hierarchy.
I know people from TT Games, which is overseen by WB Games.
The higher up you go, the more corporate it is.
winged sapphire
hai any sewering ties
fleet pier
These boys are confused
silent cairn
So like we're missing a track or two.
distant beacon
So like we're missing a track or two.
Again- drag path definitely feels like it’s meant to be here
If we’re getting ANY new music I bet on one final song
Drag path makes the most sense ngl
lean mango
Drag Path doesn't feel like a finale tho
winged sapphire
yk what does
an ARG
or
a short movie
or a boook
orrr
a comic
or a disney+ series
wait warner owns hbo my bad
silent cairn
Drag Path makes sense if we end on a loop.
Not saying that's the ending though
Just how it'd fit in
lean mango
Also if the billboard is the start of a second rollout I don't think that makes sense for one song
glacial fulcrum
If we’re getting ANY new music I bet on one final song
I'd be seriously impressed if they can tie up the whole story in one song, but hey nothings impossible with this band
distant beacon
With the message of oldies station being you can’t escape mental health but you can push on through the bad by enjoying the good. I think a loop is very possible.
winged sapphire
if theres new anything
cloud lynx
"we could probably come up with an EP or something"
when did he say that
winged sapphire
it will be ultra lore heavy
cloud lynx
interesting
distant beacon
Tbh until we get paladin mv im not believing in ANY new music
silent cairn
That sounds like for TOP in general though.
So uh, there's probably not a lot missing from the record.
winged sapphire
i had a stupid idea
distant beacon
Drag path is the only non included song we know of
silent cairn
Becasue he was asked.
silent cairn
Crystal Ball release when?
winged sapphire
"not done, not done, not done, josh dun"
its not done
distant beacon
😭
distant beacon
Isn’t that just
silent cairn
It's been known for a bit.
distant beacon
Can’t that be…fake though? Like there are TONS of registered song names
As far as this band go
silent cairn
Oh, it's not fake.
There's no other copywrite entries like this.
When I read it into it, it goes back to BF era.
distant beacon
When I read it into it, it goes back to BF era.
This song title or just the registry?
glacial fulcrum
When I read it into it, it goes back to BF era.
🤔
silent cairn
The song title being registered.
distant beacon
What date was it registered
ripe arch
it could be an old demo
silent cairn
ripe arch
i wonder if during the blurryface 10th anniversary we might hear about it
silent cairn
Nothing else on here is unreleased or fake.
distant beacon
I hope we get that doubt demo with BF anniversary
silent cairn
It's the same palce we learned about the Craving (Single Version)
ripe arch
https://iswcnet.cisac.org/search
its something thats brought up every era tbh
silent cairn
Ye, I said it isn't new.
ripe arch
yeah
silent cairn
But should be remembered.
lean mango
I'll restate what I mentioned in #verified-theorists here since a lot of people there are still pretty heavily biased against the idea of new music
But a couple of things of note IMO that were either not mentioned or barely mentioned
So, the interviewer asked "does it feel complete?"
And Josh responded with "it feels pretty complete," and IMO the way he said it implied specifically that it does not feel fully complete
like, he was able to say it feels close but couldn't confidently say it's fully there yet
He also referred to "the goal of this album" in the present tense, not past, even though the album is already out
silent cairn
Like I said, a couple more tracks are possible.
lean mango
I think if he was referring to something outside of the album/music, he probably wouldn't have referred to it that way
silent cairn
"Pretty complete" doesn't feel like we're missing half of the album though.
lean mango
I think he would've said something like "the goal of this era"
lean mango
"Pretty complete" doesn't feel like we're missing half of the album though.
depends, bear in mind this is relative to the whole arc so far
even one album away would still be very close to the end when there are 4 others total
I also think "pretty complete" is the most incomplete he could reasonably say it is if they're not ready to completely give away a double album yet
if he said anything more
like any kind of "not yet," it would basically confirm it
cloud lynx
Like I said, a couple more tracks are possible.
i kinda doubt it for certain reasons (especially if it's done in a "deluxe album")
but u could also probably find reasons against an entire double album
lean mango
And the other thing that occurred to me is when he's talking about scrapped songs being enough to form an EP, he's talking about scrapped songs
olive plume
and the way josh was like “the way we’re telling this story with these characters is coming to a close” like how is it Coming To A Close when the album is already out
lean mango
not just unreleased songs, so if there's another album or EP already in the works, he most likely wouldn't count them here among music they didn't use
lean mango
ye
fallow violet
the album was very much a character study
lean mango
I also have said before but I really have to point out again
if there's only one more song, why wouldn't it just be on the album in the first place? They said it's the end, why would they hold out and release it separately and thereby make the album incomplete for a single song?
lean mango
Even if it's only like 2-3, they could still have included it on the same album, it'd be longer but not too long for a single CD disc
lean mango
There's some reason they're intentionally delaying the end to after the album, which means they didn't want the end to be there for some reason
and yet, I find it doubtful that they wouldn't want the ending to be in music
olive plume
i see drag path making a reappearance somewhere but it cannot be the final song. it doesn’t sound/read like one and if it’s all a loop again… the whole point of this is trying to break the cycles and having it be a loop where clancy gets captured again doesn’t seem like a satisfying ending to me
ripe arch
idk if someones mentioned this earlier but some people have said the ending of paladin was removed from spotify (the lyrics section) i wonder if thats relevant
lean mango
Ye, it's not there on Spotify
my theory for why is probably just that it's meant to be a "secret track"
olive plume
oh wait that’s… that could mean something?
lean mango
in the vein of classic secret tracks
olive plume
or it’s actually the beginning of another song
lean mango
they're not hinted at anywhere in album booklets, tracklists, etc., you just have to listen for them
it feels like a callback to that whole thing
ripe arch
its still on yt music but i wonder why it was removed
winged sapphire
is it on itunes
cloud lynx
i see drag path making a reappearance somewhere but it cannot be the final song....
it could either be scrapped, or a part of a second record
but yeah... i doubt it could be an ending
ripe arch
for some reason drag path gives me track 6 vibes
wraith gulch
if there's only one more song, why wouldn't it just be on the album in the first...
I think this really is a great point honestly.
glacial fulcrum
i see drag path making a reappearance somewhere but it cannot be the final song....
Agree
light chasm
for some reason drag path gives me track 6 vibes
it was the og vinette
distant beacon
but yeah... i doubt it could be an ending
A drag path back around to the beginning (hds). It makes sense to me tbh
empty jasper
Level of Concern (live from outside) referencing drag path:
"Ooh, you ask me if it's real
I see your shifting eyes
You're diggin' in your heels
I dig my hole to die
Hole to die"
burnt scarab
Twitter
rancid gust
Why is it red and black instead of red and yellow?
rancid delta
is it just me or does the red fade to purple
livid pine
there’s definitely a possibility the picture colors are a little messed up and the words are yellow
rancid delta
purple/pink
livid pine
i wouldn’t be theorizing on color until we get a clearer picture, but for the time being, it definitely does look a little bit pink for sure
burnt scarab
is it just me or does the red fade to purple
yes
glacial fulcrum
Why is it red and black instead of red and yellow?
That's what I'm thinking
It looks less like Clancy and more like blurryface lmao
distant beacon
what
It’s quite literally yellow 😭
It’s just washed out due to the camera taking the photo and or the screens
warm crescent
we need them to announce the music video now it’s getting too crazy 😭
burnt scarab
prob next week
ember rivet
Sry guys but isn’t it kinda sus there is no Zane lowe interview yet??😭😂
light chasm
Sry guys but isn’t it kinda sus there is no Zane lowe interview yet??😭😂
That’s the main reason I think there’s more
glacial fulcrum
I don't see yellow?????
glacial fulcrum
Sry guys but isn’t it kinda sus there is no Zane lowe interview yet??😭😂
FR
lean mango
Maybe not but there's time for sometime between 7-8 est, which is when the tv turns on
rancid gust
there's still time for something at 6:25 cst right 😭
Nah that clue isn’t to the paladin strait video imo.
rancid gust
I don't see yellow?????
Ye that is definitely white.
AND it has definitively black smoke
I think the purple might be the lights failing tho
That’d explain why it cuts off randomly
glacial fulcrum
That's what I was thinking
I mean from the actual photo it's kinda greenish, but that's to be expected from the contrast with red
And still not yellow 🤔
sullen finch
Sorry, I'm very new to this server and quite a bit to lore, but I've always interpreted Backslide's lyrics as Clancy talking to Tyler / TOP. Don't know if that makes sense for lore experts. Here's some examples:
Tendencies on repeat, innit
-> the fact that lore pursues a sort of cycle
I don't mind if it's lonely
I don't mind if it's fair
I don't care, you control me
Leading me anywhere
-> Clancy directly talking to Tyler / TOP as they "write" the story
'Cause I feel the pull
Water's over my head
-> Directly related to PS (swimming the strait)
Won't do all the music but I could see multiple lore resonance trough all the music, and the concept of backslide as you said.
No clue for the mv though
glacial fulcrum
Me for like 2 weeks straight
fleet pier
Me for like 2 weeks straight
This is me also lol
mental granite
Tyler liking Keons’ post about the 25th💀
fleet pier
Tyler liking Keons’ post about the 25th💀
I KNOW!!!!!
barren saffron
Really hoping Drag Path (Devil's Eyes) is the first track on the double album and, I know this is far less likely, but I would love if they renamed Clancy to "A Complete Diversion" and released the double album as a separate project as opposed to a deluxe album and titled it "Clancy: Final Chapter." Again, I think renaming the album is unlikely, but it would just make so much sense artistically! This isn't to say the original tracks on what would be "A Complete Diversion" were useless, instead they're exactly what Drag Path says they are: very real parts of Tyler that are presented incredibly unreservedly and straight-forwardly. We get the inside of his head in a blatant way as "As evidence [Clancy/Tyler] left there on purpose ... for [Nico] to discover."
"A drag path etched on the surface
As evidence, I left there on purpose
A set back, minor inconvenience
I dug my heels next to each other
As evidence, for you to discover
A drag path etched on the surface"
By embracing the rebel red and openly discussing the way Tyler backslides into old habits, Nico thinks Clancy is going to fail. Instead, it was a plan all along Clancy knowing he would not be able to out maneuver Nico unless he simply put everything on the table and looked defeated, but in reality, though Clancy has backslid, he's ready for a final battle ("a minor inconvenience"), despite the way he presents himself and his chances.
glacial fulcrum
Really hoping *Drag Path (Devil's Eyes)* is the first track on the double album ...
HOLY shit wait why do these lyrics perfectly describe Clancy as an album in the storyline??
barren saffron
HOLY shit wait why do these lyrics perfectly describe Clancy as an album in the ...
THAT'S WHAT I'M SCREAMING
glacial fulcrum
nice spot omg!!! Actually such a good theory
Idk about the renaming thing necessarily, but damn
It almost reminds me how meta bandito is in its lyrics
barren saffron
Idk about the renaming thing necessarily, but damn
Yeah, the renaming thing is a stretch, but it would be metal as fuck imo
glacial fulcrum
By embracing the rebel red and openly discussing the way Tyler backslides into o...
Matter of fact, the song talks about a drag path left by him for 'you' to notice - what if he's going to try to attract someone to help him in the final moments? The banditos? Us as the listener? Josh??
Idk
barren saffron
I think it would be interesting, if this were the case, to see what direction it would go. Like, when Nico ominously says "hello, Clancy," did he actually see this coming all along? Or did Tyler really catch him off guard? Leaves a lot left to discover for a very meaty lore-heavy album.
For the record, even as I have settled at about 70/30 for a double album, I am totally good if Clancy is really what we get, I think it's a really beautiful record, but the math ain't mathing with the hints we have without a double-album imo.
barren saffron
Matter of fact, the song talks about a drag path left by him for 'you' to notice...
That would also be plausible lowkey
cloud lynx
For the record, even as I have settled at about 70/30 for a double album, I am t...
i agree lol
glacial fulcrum
For the record, even as I have settled at about 70/30 for a double album, I am t...
Damn you really summed up my whole thoughts on this album
barren saffron
Matter of fact, the song talks about a drag path left by him for 'you' to notice...
It could even be a double entendre for a switch in the meaning in the second chorus. He left it there for Nico to discover and then with some storytelling in the second verse it could be made clear he also left it there for Josh or the Banditos to discover (the "you" in the first chorus being Nico, but being Josh/the Banditos in the second chorus). That could be what catches Nico off guard, perhaps expecting Tyler to fly past the dangerous bend symbol, but not expecting the secretive Banditos known for their camouflaging yellow to do so as well, but the drag path is what guides them to Clancy.
glacial fulcrum
Yessssss exactly !
I really really hope we get to hear drag path (in some form at least)
barren saffron
"Overcompensate" would also live up to its name as a blatant overcompensation, as very clear evidence for Nico that would get him overconfident not expecting a trap.
In other words, perhaps the content on Clancy itself (w/o Overcompensate) is appealing as is, but Overcompensate is the cherry-on-top that really convinces Nico he can defeat Clancy once and for all.
glacial fulcrum
Reminds me of how in the video Clancy's wearing black and red, not any yellow. It makes me think that maybe he wants to be seen by the bishops yk?
So he can effectively fall into their clutches, trusting that he has a way out
barren saffron
Reminds me of how in the video Clancy's wearing black and red, not any yellow. I...
Oh absolutely! I think that's the clear indication. He switched out the camouflaging yellow for the rebel red as a direct act of rebellion. He wants to be perceived.
cloud lynx
Reminds me of how in the video Clancy's wearing black and red, not any yellow. I...
fight me
👊
glacial fulcrum
Oh absolutely! I think that's the clear indication. He switched out the camoufla...
Absolutely!!
rancid gust
I hate to say it but I don’t think we’re getting drag path.
solid whale
Sry guys but isn’t it kinda sus there is no Zane lowe interview yet??😭😂
Who's Zane Lowe?
wraith gulch
One of the best music interviewers ever
barren saffron
Who's Zane Lowe?
Apple Music guy
barren saffron
I hate to say it but I don’t think we’re getting drag path.
Why not?
wraith gulch
His interviews are long form, like 30 min to an hour
rancid gust
Because it was scribbled out and included with all the song drafts in the digital remains
solid whale
So to wrap this entire channel
We expect paladin strait to come out soon and then end in a cliff hanger for them to announce the clancy 2 album
?
rancid gust
Not Clancy 2, it’ll be part of the same album just released later.
rancid gust
But also they said early June for paladin strait in the livestream
So that’s what we’re going off of for that
solid whale
I mean I'd assume they'd announce the next album after paladin
Cuz them making us wait a whole month
For just a mv
Sounds silly
Hehe
shell kite
has Paladin Strait not been announced yet???
olive plume
they said early june 😀
maiden fox
We should’ve gotten it before the 5th imo
solid whale
Agree
warm crescent
it’s gonna be the 13th for sure
barren saffron
Because it was scribbled out and included with all the song drafts in the digita...
I’m aware. I think it’s an Easter egg and it’s meant to look scrapped. I don’t think that’s too unbelievable tbqh
static sinew
i really dont think the billboard in warsaw means anything
trail igloo
For some reason I’m imagining Tyler crafting the perfect blurryface tweet and then coming in here to see the best time to drop it
winged sapphire
hai any
zinc pendant
Well after last joshs interview we can officially close this topic. No double album confirmed
cloud lynx
Well after last joshs interview we can officially close this topic. No double al...
what
?
how did u come to this conclusion?
solid whale
Well after last joshs interview we can officially close this topic. No double al...
U sure?
cloud lynx
also there's a lot of evidence/clues/teasing
solid whale
Exactly
They may end the story and come up with a spinoff of like hwo dema was created or something
fallow violet
Well after last joshs interview we can officially close this topic. No double al...
how ? i dont think that interview confirms or denies anything
lean mango
My guess is he's referring to the "enough for an ep" thing
cloud lynx
that doesn't confirm or deny a second album
lol
well ig it depends on how u interpret it
lean mango
Ye, so it doesn't, it's ambiguous
But imo he was referring to finished scrapped songs, extra unreleased songs aren't scrapped
distant beacon
If the album releases in a year I wouldn’t consider that a double album ngl
lean mango
I wouldn't either, if it's happening I don't think it'll be in a year
lean mango
i really dont think the billboard in warsaw means anything
why don't you think it means anything?
It's possible I guess, but if it doesn't I think it'd be the first time they use a billboard for promo and it isn't teasing anything big
glacial fulcrum
If the album releases in a year I wouldn’t consider that a double album ngl
I think that's why I believe if it'll happen at all it'll be on June 25th, after all Tyler's said loads of times that this will be the final record in the dema storyline
fallow violet
why don't you think it means anything?
me neither tbh. i think its just the warner bros employees in warsaw actually doing a good job at promo, i mean they also did that crazy ass listening party, and the billboard is just clearly a marketing for the album being out it doesnt really have anything new.. it has both yellow text and the red background. people kept saying how its weird that it doesnt have yellow but.. it wouldnt make much sense stylistically when they already had yellow text
distant beacon
I really do think its just gonna be an EP or a singular bonus track to make a total of 14
glacial fulcrum
me neither tbh. i think its just the warner bros employees in warsaw actually do...
I'm sorry but I don't see this as yellow, am I being delusional?? 😭
I doubt it means much in the grand scheme of things but still
It looks white to me !!
distant beacon
It’s just washed out..
Camera + extremely bright screens usually means it will get washed out
lean mango
me neither tbh. i think its just the warner bros employees in warsaw actually do...
It's not really something they can just choose to do, album promo has a meticulous plan and budget, and billboards are usually reserved for teasing big things because they're very expensive. I don't think there's really any precedent for an arm of the company to just choose to have a billboard
static sinew
why don't you think it means anything?
please keep pings on for me btw
i dont think it means anything bc nothing about it implies anything new. it specifically advertizes CLANCY , if it was hinting something new itd do a better job of it
like it literally says "new album clancy available now" in polish
if this was hinting something itd be either just "twenty one pilots" or the logo or "twenty one pilots new music" or something
static sinew
please keep pings on for me btw
i have low vision and i cant tell if youre replying to me or not if its not highlighted
lean mango
Ye, I did consider that, however, I'm also thinking about the fact that their promo plan this cycle heavily involves thinking like a fan
static sinew
i have low vision and i cant tell if youre replying to me or not if its not high...
i used to have it in my name but nobody cared anyway
lol
lean mango
they know if a new billboard pops up, fans are going to notice and draw attention to it, I'm sure, so they could use it both to promote the recent album and tease something new at the same time
static sinew
Ye, I did consider that, however, I'm also thinking about the fact that their pr...
true , but it could also be that their label isnt happy w clancys first week or something
lean mango
the bigger tell for me will be if there are more, and if they're any different
static sinew
im just saying if it was for something new itd feel more ,,, important
if we see more of this same billboard maybe ill change my mind
lean mango
that's pretty subjective imo, to me it does feel important
tho of course that will change if no others appear
static sinew
but like this is the same aesthetic as the rest of clancy (for the most part , idk about the magenta i think thats just the LEDs) , qnd theres only 1
if its a big stunt and theyre all over then maybe its something
lean mango
true , but it could also be that their label isnt happy w clancys first week or ...
I doubt this is it, Clancy did about as well as I think they can reasonably expect it to do, and had the best-selling first week of any "rock" album of the year
lean mango
but like this is the same aesthetic as the rest of clancy (for the most part , i...
yes and no IMO. While it is assets that already existed for Clancy, I personally think this emphasizes a different side of it
since it's mostly red and black, which was used for Clancy but not emphasized in any of the promo yet
static sinew
i feel like a LOT of clancy promo is red and black what ?
lean mango
Anything in particular you're thinking of?
I'm not counting stuff like merch here btw, just posters, billboards, and teasers/posts that were used to promote the album
The one exception I can think of is the listening party poster
I mean, at least it is true that this isn't anything new in general, so maybe it is just nothing
fallow violet
I'm sorry but I don't see this as yellow, am I being delusional?? 😭
its a screen . im not gonna analyze some led lights 😭 its clearly meant to be yellow
fallow violet
It's not really something they can just choose to do, album promo has a meticulo...
well yeah but the billboard isn’t teasing anything it literally just says that the album is out now. if it had something cryptic on it then ofc but it looks like regular promo. like did the trench london subway have any lore or hints ? it was just promo too
lean mango
well yeah but the billboard isn’t teasing anything it literally just says that t...
that one was before the album, wasn't it?
fallow violet
nope that was when it came out
lean mango
For what it's worth, the person who saw it said it looks like a faint yellow. They also took a video which makes it a bit more clear
Ok, but still, not multiple weeks after
glacial fulcrum
For what it's worth, the person who saw it said it looks like a faint yellow. Th...
Ok ok
lean mango
Ok, but still, not multiple weeks after
not that it couldn't be this, but I won't be convinced that it's nothing until we know that others aren't going to follow soon, even if it is like the subway one that's the exception rather than the rule
also in this case we know something's happening on the 25th, we just don't know what, it could even simply be generating hype ahead of that
static sinew
well yeah but the billboard isn’t teasing anything it literally just says that t...
same w the blurryface bathrooms LMAO
static sinew
also in this case we know something's happening on the 25th, we just don't know ...
technically we DONT know somethings happening on the 25th , just the number 25
glacial fulcrum
its a screen . im not gonna analyze some led lights 😭 its clearly meant to be y...
Alright fair enough, maybe I was reaching a bit
It wasn't really a great photo to work off I guess
static sinew
Thursday is half of the month lmao
isnt half the month the 15th actually ? so any day next week could technically still be early june
im beginning to think the 13th bc its a thursday like overcompensate was and also paladin is the 13th song on the album
lean mango
technically we DONT know somethings happening on the 25th , just the number 25
technically, but it's nearly certain
they've teased it so many times there's almost no room for mixing up what it could potentially mean
and the only other alternative doesn't make sense in context
rancid gust
I wouldn't either, if it's happening I don't think it'll be in a year
If it happens I think it’ll be before the tour
Just a shot in the dark tho idrk
shell kite
we’re getting the double album and a movie at midnight tonight , josh told me in a dream
tall lodge
we’re getting the double album and a movie at midnight tonight , josh told me in...
It has been foretold.
Confirmed lore, it’s real chat.
static sinew
what does this have to do with double album (major possibility probably not) theory
glacial fulcrum
This is clearly all an elaborate saw trap laid out by twenty one pilots to get us to theorise to death
sinful reef
what does this have to do with double album (major possibility probably not) the...
your final challenge, drop the paladin strait music video
compact arrow
what does this have to do with double album (major possibility probably not) the...
Absolutely nothing this thread is an insane asylum do you understand
rain birch
my theory
lean mango
None 6 25
cedar cradle
Well this thread can be deleted now
No double album just the Paladin mv on 25th
It was fun being delulu with you guys
solid whale
I still believe they gonna announce a second album right after the mv
winged sapphire
I still believe they gonna announce a second album right after the mv
which they can
they can just relase the paladin mv on 25, and just add to be contuined
:p
solid whale
which they can
they can just relase the paladin mv on 25, and just add to be c...
That's what I'm saying
winged sapphire
That's what I'm saying
but if its 25 i cant wait but still dont belive the hype
solid whale
I genually doubt they're gonna be able to solve everything in 1 mv
winged sapphire
which
they cant
we know the mv is 6 minutes since tyler said audio matches the you know
video
thats why the audio has birds on it
it matches the mv
winged sapphire
or a single
solid whale
But they're the crazy ones
solid whale
There's nothing crazier than being the only sane one 😭
winged sapphire
tbh i dont think they would end a 9 year old story with "hello clancy"
solid whale
tbh i dont think they would end a 9 year old story with "hello clancy"
They gotta end it with a mv
A big song
winged sapphire
^
winged sapphire
a big something
solid whale
Yeah
solid whale
It's not even the story
winged sapphire
that was really big
solid whale
It's the fact that they have to take down dema and the bishops
winged sapphire
also
solid whale
Towers too maybe?
winged sapphire
we know doubule albums were on every top album ever, you know the theories
but i think
this era
solid whale
I keep thinking the towers give the bishops power
winged sapphire
it is correct
solid whale
It has to be
U can't end the story open
This isn't the spiderman across the shittyverse
solid whale
Exactly
solid whale
For example levitate
winged sapphire
for clancy
solid whale
Was a cliff hanger for trench
solid whale
The good ol days :<
winged sapphire
or lp
solid whale
Linkin park?
winged sapphire
also hate how people are saying theres only 3 lore mvs
thats what they do
all eras
solid whale
Linkin park x twenty one pilots would have been amazing 
solid whale
all eras
My issue with it
Is that they said this album would be straight forward and heavy packed of lore
It's been almost a month from clancy release
winged sapphire
not straight forward at all
solid whale
And we just got a mv from navigating
Where they walk
And they walk
Only big revelation happens "after" the mv
winged sapphire
fun fact that was backslide first
solid whale
Wym
winged sapphire
the mv was gonna be walking
winged sapphire
but tyler felt it was boring so he canceled it and just said josh to direct it
solid whale
I already hate going outside to do groceries shopping
static sinew
the mv was gonna be walking
source ?
winged sapphire
mark
solid whale
Imagine walking 😭
fallow violet
No double album just the Paladin mv on 25th
??
fallow violet
these people are gonna look so stupid if the 25 has nothing to do with paladin mv and we get more content whatever way it may be
solid whale
I doubt we get contrnt
But I deffo think we will get an announcement about more stuff coming soon
fallow violet
i meant in general that the 25 hints have got to do with something more than just the paladin mv
static sinew
i do think its interesting that inferno vinyl was specifically marketed as the last variant
like theyre ending clancy (the album) early
karmic pumice
I have a dumb theory about PS MV premiere
static sinew
bc its very common for artists to do variants for a couple months after release , if not more
like sai was 6 months after
and so explicitly closing the book on clancy (or at least this version) is odd
karmic pumice
I ordered a hoodie, but the expedition is only the 14th (sadge)
If "early june" extend until the 15, which is mid-june, the last possible date is the 14th.
That would leave some time until the 25, where somehting should happen
But i don't see any clue
cloud lynx
the mv was confirmed to exist
basically yeah it will release soon and we know it exists
left kite
we know the mv is 6 minutes since tyler said audio matches the you know
Where did hw say that? I've seen a couple other people saying that but I haven't heard it from him
olive plume
i’m also wondering that too because i don’t remember that. i feel like if he did say that, we wouldn’t have so many people thinking paladin would be a short film?
i thought he just said he wanted us to sit with the audio first, but that doesn’t mean the video will be 1:1 with the audio? maybe? i just want the video 
left kite
Yesh
rancid gust
Any paladin updates?
stray kettle
I want to throw it out there, as I’ve seen a lot of people saying the MV drops 6/25. It won’t.
Early June can still be true if we aren’t taking a “mid June” into consideration. 6/1-6/15 is early, 6/16-6/30 is late June.
With the little videos they’ve been releasing every 3 days leading up to something on 6/25 the way the dates work, everyone is assuming “this must be the Paladin video” but lying about the release window of a purposely delayed MV doesn’t make sense. Paladin will drop between now and 6/15 and we are still getting /something/ on 6/25.
fallow violet
i agree but also i don't think it's totally certain 25 means 25th of june yet. it's certainly possible but it doesn't have to be
stray kettle
I agree it doesn’t have to be, I just feel we’ve gotten enough clues to that day in particular it has to be (subjectively)
fallow violet
fair! i'm personally leaning towards it possibly meaning 2025 if its not june 25
teal compass
I will give them from June 1st to June 24th as early June but this better not be on the 25th
stray kettle
I feel like if it were 2025 they would’ve started hinting at it much later, the immediate Latin 6 25 hint at the event and then digital remains coming out very quick after the album… it feels they’re trying to get this in front of people ASAP to prepare.
If it were 2025 I’d think maybe October start hinting
fallow violet
so you would totally take if paladin strait ends on the cliffhanger like that audio and they dont let us know when we get the rest until october? 😭
remote moss
I have a good feeling that the Paladin MV will come out on Friday with a small teaser either tomorrow or Thursday.
If there is more music coming, it will be revealed at the end of the music video
fallow violet
yeah i imagine whatever the clancy ultimus capitulus 25 is it will probably be revealed right after paladin mv, and if they still dont tell us. we are gonna have so much fun going insane again (icant do this anymore)
stray kettle
so you would totally take if paladin strait ends on the cliffhanger like that au...
no no, I mean if they were making people wait an entire year they probably wouldn’t tell them immediately, they’d build up to it.
Hype, no matter how big the artist, will die within the span of a year.
so maybe they’d end on a cliff hanger and start doing the ultimus thing MONTHS later
remote moss
I think that if they have any new music planned that they would want it to come out before the Clancy tour begins in August
olive plume
i think this specific cliffhanger will piss off a lot of people and i don’t think waiting months to tease a continuation will be wise but. i dunno
remote moss
I'm not sold on a whole second album quite yet, but I could definitely see an extended version of the album releasing with a couple of new tracks
fallow violet
I think that if they have any new music planned that they would want it to come ...
nah honestly i can totally see them doing double everything, we already got confirmation they have plans for this era up to 2026 and beyond
cloud lynx
25 could mean 25 days after a certain day
olive plume
the endings of the outside and levitate kept us waiting but their endings still reset to a final state. paladin quite literally is In The Middle Of It
fallow violet
they can totally tour this album and then a double album if it exists on the second legs of the tour
remote moss
nah honestly i can totally see them doing double everything, we already got conf...
Personally, I would be disappointed if they broke up the Clancy tour into two different legs where you only got to experience all of the Clancy songs on the second leg
If the songs are ready, there is no reason to delay the release
But only if the new songs are considered a continuation of Clancy
If they are not and it's a whole new era, they can hold those back as long as they want.
fallow violet
they already did do that with some songs on previous tours tho
for example
first american leg of bandito tour didnt have cut my lip and chlorine yet, they only added it like halfway through the tour
remote moss
first american leg of bandito tour didnt have cut my lip and chlorine yet, they ...
Sorry, my message wasn't clear. I'm talking about an extended version of Clancy that hasn't come out yet/might not exist.
It would be like if they split Trench in half and released the first set before the first leg of the Bandito tour
ripe arch
i think they might not add any new songs if there are any, but i do see them doing some different songs across legs
remote moss
And then released the second half before the second leg meaning that anyone who experience the first leg didn't get the chance to hear those songs
ripe arch
as long as they play awap at clancy berlin 2025 idc whats on the setlist
olive plume
If the songs are ready, there is no reason to delay the release
you say this but they’re quite literally holding onto the paladin video even though it’s done
fallow violet
yeah i got what you mean but that concept of them splitting songs and not every tour having the same setlist and songs from the coinciding era is a thing they do almost everytime, especially when there are two tours per era
teal compass
I would be completely fine waiting for a continuation until next year I just wanna know I’m waiting for something
remote moss
you say this but they’re quite literally holding onto the paladin video even tho...
When I say that, I'm talking about delays of 1 year+
ripe arch
what if theyre making a movie
remote moss
If the extended version of Clancy is ready to go and they have tour dates before it is released, I will be disappointed
But it is all hypothetical
warm crescent
I would be completely fine waiting for a continuation until next year I just wan...
same, i just hope they would’ve been more open about this actually NOT being the conclusion, and being more of a penultimate project if so
or just not saying it’s the ending at all 😭
teal compass
I absolutely love the idea of a movie but if 14 music videos was a massive logistical challenge that couldn’t fit into the budget for them without having 90% of them be made for $3.47 and a snickers bar idk if they could whip out a whole movie
olive plume
i think we’ll get more info once paladin drops. but paladin has to drop first
fallow violet
I would be completely fine waiting for a continuation until next year I just wan...
yeah same i mean i will only take it if we know for sure, if paladin ends on a cliffhanger and we get no info im gonna go insane
remote moss
If we don't get more info when Paladin is released, it will be very confusing
warm crescent
maybe this is the band’s way of putting us in clancy’s shoes, we have to metaphorically get past the paladin strait for more stuff 😭
ripe arch
do we have to go to iceland
fallow violet
what if theyre making a movie
i feel like i'm one of a few people that isn't a huge fan of the idea of them making this into any kind of movie whether small or otherwise😭
the live action visuals we have from the music videos are enough for me, i think it would work much better as a graphic novel
ripe arch
honestly paladin mv is gonna be like a movie with the length of the song itself 😭
remote moss
i feel like i'm one of a few people that isn't a huge fan of the idea of them ma...
I agree. They are a band and have no acting experience. They need to wrap up the story in the form of music/a music video.
fallow violet
many bands that have lore also released comics alongside it so i think that's realistic
green night
have there been any developments in the past 2 weeks
glacial fulcrum
many bands that have lore also released comics alongside it so i think that's re...
Like MCR with danger days! I thought that was awesome :>
weak swallow
have there been any developments in the past 2 weeks
not as far as i know
nothing hugely substantial anyways
left kite
Well, that was more just a comic writer who made music wrote a comic to go along with their album. It's probably the only actually really good band related comic I've read
left kite
Like MCR with danger days! I thought that was awesome :>
Meant to reply to this ^
fallow violet
Well, that was more just a comic writer who made music wrote a comic to go along...
gorillaz and bad omens also have them tho i have yet to read those 🤓
left kite
Oooh I didn't know about Gorillaz...maybe I should get it
maiden fox
Erm
I’m already worried but if they don’t at least announce paladin by Thursday I’m going to be even more worried
static sinew
gorillaz and bad omens also have them tho i have yet to read those 🤓
poppy did it too. its actually fairly common for concept albums
fallow violet
yep !!
solid whale
Thought this would go here
compact arrow
And for your final challenge, release something on time this era.
Oh hell nah Nico yo ahh tweaking
wraith gulch
Credit goes to @silent cairn for making such a great poster
stray kettle
really hoping at the end of Paladin we get a tease. Imagine this:
Clancy (Seized) including 3 new songs: Drag Path, I’m Not Home, You’re Gonna Be Ok
On Streaming June 25th
light chasm
I’m really starting to believe the paladin MV is coming out early June 2025
fallow violet
I’m really starting to believe the paladin MV is coming out early June 2025
/j ?
like i cannot take that seriously sorry i think yall are just getting real paranoid if you truly think that
noble badge
Sorry but a whole year is not 'coming soon' to me
compact arrow
The fact that we are about to be mid June and not a word has been said is a tiny bit annoying
sly hazel
We are still early June by marketing standards
fallow violet
yeah but like the most possible late early june and without saying a word, which is annoying, i think the mv is important enough to be announced a week prior
static sinew
i think they count the "early june" thing as the announcement
but hopefully today at 1 est
fallow violet
if they don’t do even a 24 hour heads up i’ll be real confused
lean mango
Tyler retweeting something early today means he's around early which might be a sign of something happening today
I hope so
static sinew
fair
if its not announced in less than 2 hours im gonna double down on the angry emoji
this is getting ridiculous
how far in advance was the outside announced ?
olive plume
band account tweeted on 12/16/21 that they were planning to shoot the music video after the holidays. it released 3/18/22
lean mango
Announcement of its release came 1 day in advance
somber ocean
at this point i feel like we’re being trolled like
even if it’s announced today tomorrow is the LAST day u could consider early june
a friday release would make sense though bc with typical work schedules more people would be able to watch it live
rain birch
whats ur ETA, paladin mv??????
pure timber
whats ur ETA, paladin mv??????
2 years
raven lagoon
static sinew
no theyre not !!!!!
cloud lynx
golden hornet
With each day I’m doubting the double album
static sinew
bro cant even finish 1 video on time
shell kite
the fact that it’s not like evidence against the double album breaking it, it’s the lateness of the band
rancid gust
Nah they’re finishing up all the music videos for the double album
That’s why it’s taking so long
Trust
shell kite
before pushing it back another week?
rancid gust
🤷♂️
rain birch
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shell kite
guys what if tyler decides not to release anything cuz we complained too much
rain birch
if only they didnt said "early"
fair dirge
Where the frick is the mv 
little mulch
Maybe when they said early
They meant early in the day
During a day in June
Yeah totally
timber pasture
tomorrow is the last day they can drop the paladin video and still be on time
cause once it’s the 15th, we’ll officially be in the second half of June and, therefore, late June
somber ocean
that's why i'm shocked they haven't announced it so it must be a shadow drop
which seems odd for such an important video
remote estuary
Maybe we were supposed to find something else before they drop it??
little mulch
Early June is an anagram for "lane jury e"
That is definitely a hint about something
weak swallow
our lane boy has grown up to be a lane man and now has to do lane jury duty
they grow up so fast
rain birch
im gonna snap ned’s neck
warm crescent
im gonna snap ned’s neck <:heeheegiggle:1097638536703905802>
LEAVE HIM ALONE
barren urchin
static sinew
i still think its interesting some of the captions were changed between the physical journal and dmaorg
shell kite
no joke-
i had a dream tøp made some impromptu european mini tour for the double album/ep release.
like half of it was shown at the first show in France and the second show was i think in Norway or Iceland. And there was some interactive mv thing where the mv’s happened along with some lore related crowd interaction.
and then the last mv was paladin strait
rancid gust
I had a dream that I was suddenly extremely socially awkward. It was really stressful.
fair dirge
I had a dream that I was suddenly extremely socially awkward. It was really stre...
Okay but it's not a dream about double album
rancid gust
Nah I don’t dream about real things.
Just wacky nonsense things usually
If I DID have a double album dream we might be in trouble
glacial fulcrum
no joke-
i had a dream tøp made some impromptu european mini tour for the doubl...
Real confirmed?
cloud lynx
fleet pier
lean mango
Ok so my updated double album theory
lean mango
Drag Path is in the Digital Remains because it's part of Clancy to bring it to 14
Then we have 11 tracks for double album bringing it to 25
This reconciles the issue I always had with counting both versions of The Craving
sly hazel
if you add the 11 from sai that's 95..
Wait what the FUCK
wraith gulch
Either one more song or if you include the craving single version, either way works to 95. Hugely significant IMO considering this only adds up when you add the two live vessel songs they added today ON THE 14TH
Also in the trees live they added to vessel:
cloud lynx
Also in the trees live they added to vessel:
it's "just" the live lyrics
might sill mean smth tho
wraith gulch
Yep yep
somber ocean
do we think the “hellos” of trees could tie into the “hello clancy” in any way 🤨 or am i tweakin
cloud lynx
do we think the “hellos” of trees could tie into the “hello clancy” in any way �...
imo yes
but especially the drum beat on the drum islands in the live version
plus Trees (live) is now the last track of Vessel
shell kite
do we think the “hellos” of trees could tie into the “hello clancy” in any way �...
when aren’t we as a fandom tweaking though?
mental granite
A bit suspicious both songs say “y’all got one more?”
But tbh releasing “new” vessel songs was not on my bingo list of ways for Tyler to communicate with us
somber ocean
i can't believe they're radio silent rn
6:25pm is our last hope for today and then we're cooked
zinc pendant
6:25pm is our last hope for today and then we're cooked
but 6:25pm is so weird hour to release anything
lean mango
It is, but I think the Vessel release thing actually makes it more likely
Clearly correlates with the number 14 so I think he's more likely to use a specific time like that
hazy fern
I think it would make sense if they dropped the mv at the time of when paladin actually would've dropped.
little mulch
They will add 3 live versions of SAI songs to make it 14
Then drop the MV on the 14th hour
Of the 25th
mental granite
Maybe the “we got one more thing for ya” = one more record 🤡
cloud lynx
"does it sound like the end to u"
or smth like that
on the livestream
i feel like there could be another record, that could complete the 25 tracks + even overflow
(14 tracks for Clancy + perhaps 11 more)
mental granite
Cuz like I dunno if I could see them resolving everything everything in one song
cloud lynx
it's possible that they close PS with a teaser (for the 25th?)
the "14th" track, but it could yet again tease another record
cloud lynx
it's possible that they close PS with a teaser (for the 25th?)
it's pretty sure that it's gonna end with a cliffhanger anyway, like the song
wraith gulch
it's possible that they close PS with a teaser (for the 25th?)
This is what I think may happen yeah
olive plume
unless the paladin video comes out the 25th 
cloud lynx
nah
or at least, that would be very shitty
at least do not fucking say "early" then
brittle moat
is the leaked google drive of 2nd album instrumental confirmed fake?
or any update on that
silent cairn
Fake
wraith gulch
Imagine if-
Double album is true
And second album is a prequel to the whole story (Clancy or torchbearer origin story).
Therefore making “Clancy is the end of the story” not untrue.
I don’t actually think this is the case, but it would be cool…
rancid gust
Ok so if the video doesn’t drop tonight it is officially not early June
And I’m not going to even know what to think anymore.
trail vigil
Jokes on y'all, thinking we're gonna get a double album when we're not even getting a ps mv
empty jasper
The most they'd do: an event like the SAI livestream for all the songs on the album that really tells the story of Clancy and how things go. There's no double album after hyping up Clancy being what brings this story to a close.
cedar cradle
So what is the Paladin mv realessing today
lean mango
The most they'd do: an event like the SAI livestream for all the songs on the al...
this argument doesn't really follow because any music published in this era could just be branded as a continuation of Clancy and still make that true
- we've seen that they're not the best at following through with what they say is going to happen 👀
rancid gust
The most they'd do: an event like the SAI livestream for all the songs on the al...
Bro a double album would still be part of Clancy. It’s not two separate albums, it’s one album that is double the length.
Or too big to fit on one vinyl record*
Where you get two instead
Hence the double.
rancid delta
A double album doesn't necessarily have to be the same album itself. Same era though for sure
"Double album" implies 2 parts. Doesn't mean they have to be connected in the literal sense. But connected story wise and is a part of the same marketing
teal compass
Yeah the most important thing for it to be a double album is 100% how the band markets it
Release time doesn’t really mean much here beyond presumably being shorter than a normal era
static sinew
But tbh releasing “new” vessel songs was not on my bingo list of ways for Tyler ...
why couldnt it have been forest or slowtown
rain birch
Also in the trees live they added to vessel:
we need rab songs
!!!!!
why they dont just release it like these vessel live songs
(release it without any marketing)
marsh matrix
Because vessel live is puzzle related
zealous edge
jesus christ this thread has almost 9000 comments
trail vigil
It's basically its own channel now. Three days ago it was at 7k and that was already nuts
This thread is gonna manifest a double album into existence if it didn't already exist
green night
this thread is a server of its own
cedar cradle
This thread is just pure delusion
zealous edge
no because everyone went from "DOUBLE ALBUM!!!" to "
Can we just have the Paladin MV?"
warm crescent
seems reasonable ngl
uneven badge
maybe we have to decypher something? I keep thinking that we need to find the paladin strait mv or at least clues to it and then maybe something else will follow? (idk im going crazy)
rain birch
4 hours remain TRUST
glacial fulcrum
maybe we have to decypher something? I keep thinking that we need to find the pa...
We've tried so hard though, where could we possibly look that we haven't looked already?? 😭😭😭
Those damn pilots...
marsh matrix
Remember the dangerous bend
ember sinew
14 tracks on almost every album now….
Tho what happened to SAI ?? Literally disappeared on the streaming platform
So weird
SAI decanonized 😵💫
wraith gulch
Shows up on Apple Music for me, weird
rancid gust
Paladin strait still isn’t here ;-;
It’s officially absolutely no longer early June.
lean mango
SAI shows for me on Spotify too
BTW I finally dreamed about a double album lol, took long enough considering how much time I spend in these channels. And now I'm kinda sad it's not real, it was an insanely different concept that I kind of want to see now
First of all the album aesthetic was really weird, it was like dark with metallic 3D renders
and the band released multiple singles at once, sending different ones to different radio stations
it was very lore-heavy, dark kinda like trench but also way more experimental than anything they ever did before. Also for the first time it had a few featured artists, including Foster The People and Lin-Manuel Miranda, which it took me awhile to warm up to but I heard one of the songs and it actually worked really well
and there was a big arg kind of thing to try to uncover the info about the album and piece it together which launched straight out of the Ultimus Capitulus thing
I doubt they'd do it that way but heh, it was interesting
static sinew
i had a dream that clancy tour used a crazy new pyro effect and injured a bunch of people , and then tyler cried in court during the lawsuit
lean mango
damn
wraith gulch
That escalated quickly
somber ocean
did the pilots infiltrate everyone’s dreams last night 💀 i dreamt that they dropped a whole ass trailer for paladin strait the movie, with a star-studded cast
tame tendon
No, but really, is there a reason why almost all the albums have 14 tracks? 👀😭
lean mango
There probably is
cloud lynx
Tho what happened to SAI ?? Literally disappeared on the streaming platform
????
still shows up for me (on Spotify)
teal compass
No, but really, is there a reason why almost all the albums have 14 tracks? 👀😭
Theyve said before that 14 tracks just feels like a solid album length, long enough to feel like a journey but not too long that it’s overstaying it’s welcome
Theyve talked about liking the idea and structure of an album in general too and why they don’t release a ton of singles like other artists it was part of that idea of crafting this very specific experience that an album gives you
No idea how/if it relates to the story but the album length is something we’ve heard Tyler speak on at least
shell kite
did the pilots infiltrate everyone’s dreams last night 💀 i dreamt that they dro...
we're all going crazy i swear 💀
cuz i had one a couple days ago
real field
guys tyler told me the double album is true and its gonna come out around 2027
mellow stratus
HI ANY PALADIN 😭😭😭
empty jasper
the paladin is a lie
fair dirge
WHY TYLER IS A LIAR
NOW I DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT PALADIN MV I WANT DOUBLE ALBUM
WHERE IS IT TYLER WHERE
wheat gorge
rancid gust
Is that a she’s broken reference?
odd cargo
Is that a she’s broken reference?
se's ben
rain birch
this should be posted in #confirmed-fake-stuff
burnt scarab
they haven’t posted in a bit
but will prob post another song snip
and then 25th ultimate chapter is the MV
lean mango
If that is how it goes I will never trust them again
cloud lynx
it's joever
wraith gulch
Let us assume, for a moment, that double album is true.
Do you think this bizarre rollout could be intentional? This whole era feels “weird,” “off,” “bizarre.” I think it is possible (not saying it’s true, possible) they are trying to get us to think that way of it, make us wonder “wtf is going on?” “This doesn’t feel like the end.”
And when second half drops the rollout is great. And how the end of the story should feel. With a nice little bow, as they say.
warm crescent
it would be a hilarious tactic for them to lower all expectations to make the end seem 10x better 😭
wraith gulch
It would be, lol. It just seems so off to not be somewhat intentional. Not that every bit of it needs to have been, not saying that the album delay was intentional. But the other stuff, maybe they leaned into that idea.
lean mango
Well, if you think about it, some of these aspects that are seemingly mistakes might either be the best way to handle it if there's a double album, or make more sense if there is one. (Not even just making the first half seem worse to make the second better)
For example if there are still a lot of details they have to get into place in time, it'd explain why they keep disappearing
Needing to save a lot of the budget for a second rollout would explain this low budget rollout, including the lower-budget high budget vids
Same with details like the tour not starting for 3 months after the album comes out, and not saving any videos for later in the era
wraith gulch
I completely agree
lean mango
But it also just makes more sense to have the first one more understated if there's more to come, because if they're promoting this like crazy then they might risk the hype being too high for anyone to care about a second one, and they end up taking away from each other
wraith gulch
Yeah agreed. It would make a lot of things make sense in hindsight.
lean mango
They need to create a bit of a gap
wraith gulch
Josh only interviews since release, Tyler being quiet on an official basis (if you exclude social media stuff, I mean album promo stuff), no Zane Lowe interview, etc
ebon jackal
The silence is because they are now making the double album. We manifested it
lean mango
Yea, the Zane Lowe interview is another thing, if there was a double album they'd definitely save most of the big interviews til then, especially that one
wraith gulch
And I know someone will say it’s because Tyler has a new baby. That very well could be it. But it could also be both reasons that benefit the other for double album/delayed tour/being absent from interviews. Gives him time at home but also accomplishes the rollout stuff you were talking about. They aren’t mutually exclusive at all.
lean mango
I don't think the new baby is an explanation for most aspects of this, tbh
some things it'd make sense
like the tour delay
wraith gulch
Yep
But the interviews take 30 minutes
And are by zoom
It just feeds into the strange feeling
lean mango
It also doesn't explain things like the lower budget promo and weird schedule
like, he may be a parent but this is also his job, he has time for social media posts every few days
wraith gulch
And it’s not his first child. He’s had very young kids for a long time. My point being you’d think they’d have similar spacing and absence in prior rollouts/tours.
@lyric raptor see #1213244361320439828 message just another theory
I see you in verified similarly exasperated
lean mango
Let us assume, for a moment, that double album is true.
Do you think this biza...
o yea, all that said, I have actually thought that some aspects feel weirdly like they're intended to make us feel like it's weird
for example
Tyler straight-up voicing his dislike for two songs that are on the album
wraith gulch
Yep
lean mango
After he said he believed in every song
wraith gulch
My thought on that isn’t that he doesn’t like them, but that he felt they should be on second album
lean mango
yea, I mean, the way he worded it was about whether or not they'd be on the album
it's ambiguous
wraith gulch
Especially one of them being the only lore song besides Paladin
And OC. But yeah
And Tyler not addressing the early June stuff even though he knows it’s irritating people because he knows this surprise will be worth it
glacial fulcrum
And Tyler not addressing the early June stuff even though he knows it’s irritati...
I goddamn hope so, I do think it's actually really likely but I'm so used to being disappointed at this point lol 😭
cloud lynx
Same with details like the tour not starting for 3 months after the album comes ...
totally agree
cedar cradle
17 days into the month know where tf is it bro
left kite
Now we have:
A
Drag Path
I'm Not Home
H
Graffiti
R
T
N
Silver Weighted Sun (maybe a stretch)
N
D
ember sinew
In fact, I kinda think they will release the PS Mv like wednesday and then announce the big on the 25th
Or something like that
Bc, here is what we know.
There IS an ultimus Capitulus, i’m refusing to gros delulu
And it’s NOT PS
Bc we know something is coming after PS, after what they said in the livestream
brittle moat
Just finished rewatching the recent josh interviews where he says "closing chapterS" and mentions they have enough cut songs for an EP
wraith gulch
The longer that Paladin gets delayed the more I believe in double album (or similar), because it’s getting closer and closer to butting right up to the 25th, so if Paladin was this epic finale thing you would think they’d want to separate them more.
brittle moat
it all adds up a little too cleanly
ember sinew
Just finished rewatching the recent josh interviews where he says "closing chapt...
Exactly
ember sinew
The longer that Paladin gets delayed the more I believe in double album (or simi...
PS from the double album you mean ?
ember sinew
Yeah I agree but then it would be okay to chose releasing the Mv next week and on the 25th announce the thing don’t you think ?
brittle moat
we've never had an era where they
- tease unreleased song lyrics
- dont leave MV's for post album release (outside of PS)
- say things like "do you think its the end?" after saying ITS THE END FOR MONTHS
- are vague in post release interviews about chapters/ EP's/ teasers/ massive delays
Not to be rude, but either there is more to it, or this release is scuffed and messy and im PRAYING its the first
ember sinew
I think they actually delayed PS BECAUSE they are finishing up the double album thing, that would make sense to me
wraith gulch
#1213244361320439828 message is my theory for this weird release style
brittle moat
Let us assume, for a moment, that double album is true.
Do you think this biza...
i read this earlier and subconsiouly just basically repeated what you said
wraith gulch
Oh awesome yeah
brittle moat
i feel the same way sadly
ember sinew
we've never had an era where they
1. tease unreleased song lyrics
2. dont leave ...
It’s totally the first
brittle moat
im ngl, i love the MUSIC of this era, if this is all there is, but there is just this "off" feeling that ive never felt before
ember sinew
https://discord.com/channels/269657133673349120/1213244361320439828/125195625039...
I agree
wraith gulch
im ngl, i love the MUSIC of this era, if this is all there is, but there is just...
Couldn’t agree more
brittle moat
im sorry if this is controversial but all of the MV's are so low budget considering how popular they are
wraith gulch
It just doesn’t work as the end of the story, unless Paladin goes from a 6 minute song to a 30 minute saga but that doesn’t make sense to me