#Double Album Confirmed
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It's not another album, it's a graphic novel
how about a graphic novel AND an album 
hmmm
i think especially since they’ve basically given us a date for SOMETHING, they would’ve told us by now if it wasn’t music
clancy final chapter 25 like cmon let’s be fr what else do we interpret from that besides music
Yeah like Clancy 'first chapter' was an album
I don't know why but to me expecting more music feels so... wrong?
I get that tbf, it feels like setting yourself up for disappointment
like al artist goes "here's something I worked on for a long time I poured my soul into this" and then as a fan you're like "ok but more??"
that's kinda how I feel about it
Like we're being greedy and ungrateful?
it feels wrong because they just dropped an album and we’re already thinking of something coming right around the corner
but the band is obviously teasing us for more stuff coming from this era
I guess? a little bit?
I get it
Mhm I understand, but even then I love Clancy so much
I also don't believe the whole "they have had music ready since 2020"
I wouldn't be disappointed if there's nothing else
they obviously want us to discuss and come up with theories, and at the forefront of those theories will always be the topic of more music
cuz we know from a lot of sources that Tyler almost broke himself working on Trench for the full cycle
he almost broke himself and delivered an album with 14 tracks
music takes a long time
we got 13 now i doubt we're getting more
Very true
They said they had an album almost finished at the time they released SAI
Actually, do you know where the source is for this?
I think we’ll get our answers from the paladin mv
If clancy lays down in dema while it burns down like people are saying I think that would be a good way to end it and I wouldn’t expect any new music after that
I don't remember specifically, some interview
4th time asking this but where did they say that
I could try to dig it up but I definitely saw it
Fr I'd like to check it out to make sure 😭
zane lowe interview i think, definitely one of the big interviews from that era
Yea, I think it was that one
they were recording during the bandito tour in 2019 and up until covid
I watched it recently and I don't really remember that, I can go check it again though cause I'd really like to see what they said 👀
and that was before SAI as a concept was even conceived
so either way there was SOMETHING being made that wasn’t SAI
whether or not it got to a point of being finished is up to interpretation
Drag Path wasn't scrapped in that sense
Without Josh both Navigating and RITN were not on the album
it looks like it was just never made beyond early lyrics stage
who knows how many songs this guy scrapped
In reality we don't know how many songs are actually recorded and then scrapped
but it's one thing if it's some songs and another if it's a whole album and album concept
songs are scrapped but there’s also the possibility of those songs being placed on a back burner for a while
true
it’s not uncommon for artists to sit on songs for years before releasing them on a later record
or retooling them to fit a new concept
Yeah Tyler said this in an interview. He said they have two albums ready to go, one that he thinks would be a Commercial success and played om the radio (SAI) and one that's a lot more risky (unknown)
i think the risky record was SAI and one that followed up on trench (sonically) is what he said
might be wrong
But really, the thing I keep coming back to is, Tyler has crazy ideas sometimes, if he wanted to make a double album I have no doubt that he'd find a way to make it work. For me the logistics of if it's possible aren't the question, it's just whether he did or not
damn, I forgot he said this
Yeah I suppose. I do still think a whole other album is insanely difficult
This actually lends some weight to my theory imo
where was this
The idea that Dema burning down will coincide with his creativity being released, metaphorically, and he'll come out with an album of really weird personal music that will be a lot more niche
Yeah, I thought Clancy was the other "risky" one until he started saying they only started writing Clancy a year ago
Clancy doesn't really sound risky either
It explores some slightly new directions for TOP but a lot of the songs are catchy and/or radio-friendly
Yeah, but he could've also just been saying that it's more risky than SAI, not necessarily riskier than their other music. But maybe
time stamp youtube link ?
riskiest thing on the album is that one line in Lavish
I'd like to see again, if I can find it
I'm gonna sif through interviews and see if i can find anything
I don't even think Clancy is riskier than SAI
I don't remember the interview. I think it mightve been the one over zoom where he's in the suit and glasses after LOC released
imma take it as another evidence a double album is coming
since Clancy is not that one
This was 4 years ago tho!! They totally could've scrapped the album
yeah sure, a finished or almost finished album
Sometimes artists do
IDK if TOP would especially in this context
not impossible, but with the amount of clues we have now, and other stuff, idk
seems so unlikely to just scrap an entire album
But anyway, bottom line, I don't think "they didn't have time to make another album" is a good argument if it assumes that it was scrapped
because we don't know
whatever comes is not expected to be commercially successful, so it'll more likely be something just for the fans, very lore heavy, and more of a expository piece than what I think of as an album or EP or song. Like the outro music of a heavy-hitting music video.
huh, ok, interesting, so that doesn't say it was almost ready
who knows then, whole argument there might be inaccurate
but I'm curious if you had the other one
i still believe this tbh
i expect the final chapter to be way riskier and less radio-friendly
if there’s a disc 2 i do hope that it’s full on lore heavy, but i also doubt that
based on how he was talking in the livestream (if i’m remembering correct)
why's that?
maybe it was one of the interviews this era, but tyler was talking about how it’s hard to make a record that fully focused on one concept
so i don’t think that another record would be “full lore” but definitely more than what’s on clancy
I think in the second part, there might be more references to the world of Trench and the lore in general, kinda like on Trench (Nico and the Niners, Bandito, certain lines in Morph)m
in other words RIP “Door Keys” and “insert fake song name here”
It wasn't the Zane Lowe interview where he'd said he already had an album ready to go, but here are some interesting tidbits from it
Island where we fall asleep 
- "One more record" 2. "I'm still ready to make more music" 3. "I might [make a movie, write a comic book, etc...]"
Yeah, I think somewhere else he said it was almost ready or that they had both records
part of me feels like tyler just loves to troll us
clancy ultimus capitulus is just another mega collectors item with blurryface, trench, sai, and clancy
no
they wouldn't risk it
lol
he loves to troll us, but he wouldnt troll us that way
"The final chapter is just all the previous chapters put into one" doesn't really make sense lol
It's not worth the risk of losing a frieeeeeenendnndnndddd
What would be sick tho is to sell a collection like that with an exclusive extra LP with the final chapter and some outtakes from the other albums
Yessss kinda like the Dema booklet thingy
naaah guys i'm rly thinking there is a huge possibility for a second album
i'm gonna lose my mind
also we might get an announcement/a premiere for PS pretty soon
either that or it just drops out of nowhere
Same, I really hope we get more clues in the paladin mv. I won't be disappointed if it isn't though, I just wanna know what they're fuckin teasing!!!
i'm so excited for what's coming up
Yeahhhhhh!! :>
it’s definitely more plausible than the theories during SAI that’s for sure
These were some posts liquid found relating to sai, they had hardly anything at all in terms of 'evidence'
This isn't just like a delulu 'there must be more right???' theory. shits been weird with this band recently, we've gotta discuss it!
i’ve gotten my hopes up before with my other fandoms and they never really amounted to anything but this really feels like it has to lead somewhere 😭
what else could clancy final chapter 25 even mean

ye these guys have a history of this sorta thing too
not the double album specifically but the cryptic clues thing
I hope its a premier so I'm there for it lol, I'm scared its gonna happen while I'm at work
if it’s another record and it’s officially announced before the release
i hope any physical versions release after the actual streaming drop
so there’s no leaks like a week before 😭
yeah, i feel like it’s likely going to be a digital/streaming release at first
physical releases later
I wouldn't be surprised
it'd be good both for fans' wallets and for preventing a leak
Can anyone fill me in on what 'toad barrow' actually was? Was it a scrapped song like drag path or..
I think it would be such a funny name for a song lmaooo
But in the pet cheetah way where its actually a banger
it was just a track on a fake tracklist lol
TOAD BARROW TOAD BARROW TOAD BARROW
there were also honorable mentions like “Lloyd”
I think it was a mistranslation of факелоносець
Awwww hahaha 😭😭
Torch bearer - Toad barrow
Josh is a toad confrimed???
I unironically would kill for anything called torchbearer, album B side, song whatever
I just want Josh to go off man!!
need a 2 minute drum solo with time signature changes, polyrhythms, etc
fuck it
torchbearer track but it’s just drums
nothing else

I'm sayinnnnnnngggggg
I need more drum and bass type stuff from Josh like lane boy or the beginning of overcompensate
Thissssss
So about the 6/25 clue that was taken from this puzzle, I looked at the image and only found 3 visible antlers hanging here
They're hard to make out but they're definitely there - so why only 3 as opposed to the 6 at the in person event?
nope
there were 6 but they were put somewhere else
3 were hanging on ropes (as pictured)
and the other three were: one was on the table in front and two were on a drum kit or something
it was drawn on the sketch someone made
Maybe I'm off the deep end now but something seemed sus about there only being 3 in the photo
Like instead of the production team just moving them into frame
yeah thats why Im kinda meh about 25/6 because they didnt put the 6 of them in this puzzle so maybe theyre not relevant
but then again they were still put there for the event, in the context of just the event it deffo seems like they should mean something
march 2025 new date
maybe they just couldnt showcase them in the digital format since they were also on the table.. idk
It's true, the 6/june part has significantly less evidence toward it, especially compared to the amount of 25s we're seeing everywhere
i don’t want to wait until 2025

depends on what it will be i guess
Remember Josh’s 6.25 mile run
um
someone contact the dj again sdfhsjfd
Someone needs to find a DJ contact and find out some stuff
surely altguy would have heard something
that reddit user is most active in an arkansas subreddit so we gotta narrow it down from there
the hunt for the Local Top 40 NW Arkansas DJ
i didn’t even realize they said they were from arkansas in their comment. i just got tunnel vision and zoned right in on “other projects”
they said the same thing on a different reddit post. i guess it’s true someone can lie twice…
why are so many people into the old music rerelease theories, I swear they're more common in the last couple of days than any other kind of theory on what the ending could be
probably just nostalgia
and also wanting self-titled to be included in the lore, even though tyler said the story begins with vessel
doesn’t mean he couldn’t have been toying with the same themes and ideas back then though. but that doesn’t mean it’s necessarily lore/story
just gotta call into the station and be like "hey can you play drag path? I really like that song"
true, unless they got it all ahead of time but can't play it yet
like the anonymous dj up there
the one radio station i found with a top 40 radio format is KMCK-FM
literally these ones are coming out of nowhere like people just like the idea of that theres absolutely nothing concrete pointing to that
I've actually seen that too
like 5+ comments/posts about it
in the last couple days
maybe some youtuber mentioned they think that'll happen?
or Hot 101.9
which might seem more likely
found it in their recently played
there we go
gotta start doing a bit of social engineering
tryna get the phone guy to tell you whats up
but this one in particular doesnt match the time the reddit guy posted tho
he posted "just heard the song" at like 10am arkansas time and this one was 11:20pm the day before
he might've been intending to say something before and just didn't change his wording, or thought it didn't matter since no one would care about how recent it actually was
I've done that sometimes xd
yeah i can see that
I do that too sometimes to make posts more cohesive
just and just yesterday isn't too far of a stretch right?
ok but also another thing that doesnt match
tbf tho I don't trust the random guy who knew a guy
the show at 11:20 is hosted by an Angelina and the post says he talked to a He
even if a radio station might be the best way to get that info
well there ya go ig
yeah not the same one :/
gonna go look for another station then ig
Sorry if this is outta nowhere but idk whereelse to ask
What exactly sparked the double album theory
Like now there’s plenty of evidence but people were bringing it up before release
The other site doesn't really show anything either tho
People often bring up double album theories with little to no evidence
the difference here is it picked up again when evidence started to appear
KMCK-FM ?? i found a site that shows their recently played and no sign of the craving around 10am or earlier :/
before the clancy final chapter 25 thing?
yeah
ye, that's where I checked
how many days ago did the album release? I'll do some digging
like literally in this server on 2/29 people were trying to call a clancy/torchbearer double album
it seems like such a specific thing for people to predict
ok I'll start diggin'
theres these ones i guess but not all of them show recently played
what site is that?
mytuner-radio.com but i only found it because i googled top 40 radio stations in arkansas lol
ok so these are the older posts I saw on it that were actually related to this album
I think the main thing was that all the other albums said "from the full length album"
while clancy only says "from the album"
yeah that seems like the only one thats relevant, the other reasons are mostly just fantasizing tbh
which I honestly still think is weird
yea, tbh people have brought up that Saturday doesn't say "full length"
but this entire era doesn't
which leaves two possibilities imo
either it's just an arbitrary thing they chose to do differently this time
or it is implying something more
the fact it only doesnt have it on saturday but other sai mvs have it makes it seem like the saturday one was just a mistake
what does it say on saturday?
from the album?
oh yeah, yeah it does doesn't it
I don't think I ever saw the whole music video for saturday
yeah
shy away, choker and the outside have "full length"
weird
josh dun more like josh run
holy shit
more like josh undun
be the one be the one?
am I the only dun I know
researched the radio stations and there were only 3 viable options but 2 of those didnt match the reddit post and theres only one that i cant find a recently played playlist for so i cant refute it
KISR 93.7 FM
only option left otherwise the reddit bro is most likely lying
just checked the barely active bluesky top feed and
probably fake and doesn't mean anything but i kinda like the art
ye idk who R. Sparks is
Probably someone random
not sure if anybody else saw this but that reddit user said this
well that’s so funny
it’s the only one that i couldnt find the recently played for
i wonder if other people would be able to call the DJ and get the same/more info
that is really funny though—great sleuthing work!!
yeah someone should try
i almost got paranoid that this person is among us and saw my message and wrote it to make it look real but that’s too much of a coincidence 😭😭😭
i was looking through their comment history and, as long as they weren’t lying, they said they were in their 50s and also a grandfather so hopefully that means we’re safe from a troll messing with us like that 😭
hopefully some brave american soul here wants to contact the radio once they wake up
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A leaked snippet of a promo CD release of Twenty One Pilots' Upcoming single, 'I'm not home' from the upcoming 'Tower of Light' as sourced from the MALV Radio Station.
#twentyonepilots #ImNotHome #leaks
I was looking at this video from about a year ago, not to indulge in leaks but it's interesting that it didn't go anywhere
Pretty sure that’s the person who ran Sparks Visuals on YouTube who recreated a ton of Banditø tour visuals way back
Also... 'tower of light'?
Sounds like a fake leak to me ngl
not yall falling for fake leaks from a YEAR ago
Yeahhhhhhh that too
That was made by the Pet Cheetah guy I think
Sounds like it.
Lmaooooo alright no worries 😭
Lmao
It kinda goes hard though
Anyone step up yet? Lol
I'd be up for it soon potentially, just need an idea of what to ask
Yeah I’m not sure either lol
me everytime someone doesnt believe double album theory
ask the same thing the reddit guy did hsdjfshf
wait
he knows Knows the DJ??
I mean, what could that even mean as an offhand remark?
I feel like the only way to interpret that as possibly not meaning anything is denial
idk how to explain "other projects that they have planned" in any other way lmao
Especially for a DJ, if it was a movie or something non-music, why would they know about it 🤔
lmao
btw i messaged this account, they said that they found this randomly on facebook when they were looking at clancy stuff
and there was more info with it, but they didn't say anything else
i dont trust it , all the assets are reused art from before. theyd make new assets if it was real
are they? I haven't seen these ones
besides the logo of course
tho it doesn't have anything that wouldn't be easy to fake imo
notably, no band pictures which kinda seems weird to me if it stays in the vein of the main album
the flowers are from trench
I asked them if they remember what else there was or if they can dig it up again
Too quiet...
Guys CLEARLY there won't be anything coming next, the album is out and that's IT, Dema is OVER no more lore for us 🙄
(Someone prove me wrong with documents of evidence plsplspls)
Does it sound like the end?
i don’t know how everybody feels about billie eilish but a fan confronted her about the double album theory she’s got going on and i also thought it was interesting that she neither confirmed nor denied it, just kept saying she couldn’t say anything https://fxtwitter.com/billieeilishtrs/status/1798458127173738808?s=46
Billie being asked about the “double album theory” at the "HIT ME HARD AND SOFT" @Deezer event in Paris, France today! 😭
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︀︀📸: khal.ali via TikTok
imagine her double album dropping the same day as clancy’s
Hahahah I'd love that
I like how Billie and top's fanbases are kind of intertwined
Trench and When we all fall asleep came out around the same time (ish), and now Clancy and Hit me have too lol
idk, that sounds like a denial to me
No not me it’s for a friend
DENIAL!
that’s what i was thinking too… but i wonder why she didn’t outright deny it then? unless she doesn’t want to disappoint her fans
or she’s racing back to the studio that night to make that second album
that’s exactly what’s gonna happen
Just like top rn
They are frantically trying to come up with lyrics for toad barrow
No not me it’s for a toad (barrow)
Can you imagine how hype it would be if they made a joke album, with song snippets titled all the fake leak song names?
Imagine if we could actually jam to Tyler singing Lloyd or Toad Barrow
would be cool
if tyler ever uttered the name “Toad Barrow” i’d probably never recover
I'd still be up for getting a couple of people here together and making something like Magnum Opus of the Inglorious Kind for one of these fake tracklists
Hahaha I'd love to participate
Ongod!
The Cookout is where our favorite artists stop by and hangout and this time our special guest is Josh Dun from Twenty One Pilots! We talk about their newest album Clancy, tour preparations and where they rank in best things from Ohio!
“NEARING” an end
He also said “closing chapterS” plural
Around the 3:25-3:35 mark
oh this is so delicious
oh joshua please tell us how many exact chapters are remaining
Also if you watch the way he said that with the half smile was as if he and Tyler talked specifically about him working that phrase into the interview. He physically squirms as he tries to get the phrase proper then smiles after and relaxes.
i’m still trying not to get my hopes up but it’s so hard not to with all this 
theyre simply just teasing too much for nothing to happen
whether its an album or not clearly paladin isnt the end
oh 100%
Very telling right
its the only part of the interview where he does that so ye
I do think we’re getting more stuff but I could also really easily just see josh say “in the closing chapters” to describe the 3 Clancy lore music videos honesty 
or legs of tour lmao
All possible for sure
the fact he said chapterS, with an S, means we should get something after paladin. since we already have the other two lore videos this era i wouldnt count them as upcoming lol
He also has said he wouldn’t lead us on about new music if there wasn’t any. At this point the double album theory/hope/dream is so popular I think that he would shut it down if additional music of whatever length truly wasn’t what they are hinting at.
even someone like mark, who lurks sees the fan stuff more frequently than someone like tyler would say smthn abt it i think
Yeah he shut down that fake dema call really fast. Idk if he would see it as his place to shut down a more music theory but I think he’d make sure Tyler is aware (of which I imagine he already is) of how prevalent it is
i’m not sure but didn’t mark shut down the rumors of there being secret messages in the instagram ads?
the ones with the caesar cyphers
Im excited for what’s to come next, I do feel more music is coming.
As someone who listened to the leak, coming up on 3 weeks of listening to this album on repeat- safe to say my opinion of this being their best album wasn’t “new-bias”. This is the real deal, it really is the best imo.
Really curious if we get any news on Paladin tomorrow, and then of course from there we should find out what 6/25 entails.
if nothings out this week, it’ll definitely be out by next week
no time later than that
…actually who am i kidding they’d probably release the MV on the 20th of june for shits n giggles
There are a couple jobs to be done with the story. One is the introduction phase. The I Am Clancy piece is there to bring people in. But as you know there are so many layers to everything. It’s nice to extend a hand to anyone that feels like they need to do a full dive to be involved. That’s not needed, just an extra thing to dive into if you want to.
I thought this was an interesting comment to bring back.
I bet the pre-release singles were the introduction phase, the 24th is the second act, and Paladin Strait and whatever else is act III
I don't think PS will be the entirety of act III, so something else will go with it.
they cant keep getting away with this
btw the bsky person sent this
https://myclancypants.blogspot.com/2024/06/twenty-one-pilots-clancy-epilogue-2024.html
99% sure it's fake unless we see it pop up elsewhere in the next little bit, the site just looks like some random blog someone made
not the worst fake tracklist i've seen, i could see some of those being a twenty one pilots song title, but the description does not help convince me it's real
do we know where the art for this "album cover" came from?
like is it traceable to something else, or an entirely original thing
Someone said the flowers are Trench assets
there’s a typo. “heals” instead of “heels”. if you’re trying to make yourself out to be an official report/review i think you’d be more careful about that so i’m thinking it’s very likely fake. kinda sucks because for the first time in any of these fake “clancy pt. 2” leaks, i really like the concept tracklist and cover😔
Sorry to distract. Where did “claim cyan” come from
anagram for "i am clancy" + name of one of the letters that dropped w overcomp
Oh if you invert a picture of Josh with his red hair, what colour would it be
Sorry if a silly question
Still can't believe that this thread that got made right after OC dropped is still so active
What a rollercoaster
i think it has its weaknesses compared to Trench, but on some aspects it is definitely their best work!
They improved, they learned from Trench & SAI, and it shows
Good catch, tho it doesn't 100% rule it out for me, I've been surprised at some of the typos I've seen in official reviews and descriptions
You could try the app Poe. It’s like chat gpt
stop using ai
My Clancy Pants
What's wrong with it here?
Lol
I’ll stop using it when it stops being helpful
dramatic music
Narrator: “By then it’ll be much too late…”
fade out
door opens
So few, so proud-
“Hello, my fellow robots”
So whatchu guys thinkin. Final guess. Will there be a paladin strait music video tomorrow?
midnight premiere gang
i think there's a possibility lol
or they drop the MV out of nowhere at midnight EST
or in the morning 💀
The mv is dropping tn?
Ah
Yeah some people think it’s dropping on the 7th. Was checking on people’s final guesses
my predict : teaser tonight, mv tomorrow
well they said early june which in most peoples dictionary means 1st-10th day of the month and its not gonna happen on the weekend so tomorrow was our most likely candidate
i dont see them releasing it on a monday either
its getting weird
if it’s not tomorrow then it’s definitely the 12th or 13th
they’ve only really released visual stuff on like wednesdays and thursdays right
Tuesdays and Fridays too
OC thursday, NS wednesday, Backslide thursday
how many songs do we have left 😭 maybe they’re planning to post about all the videos first until we get to paladin
i originally thought they’d drop the MV on the 13th since no band has ever chosen a “sensible” date within a timeframe for a release
to close it out
“early june” = latest possible day that could somehow be considered early june/a day that is slightly after the early june window
we’ve had posts about atrofd, midwest indigo, lavish, vignette, and ritn now
16th 
i’m not sure if they would promo the craving since we already have the singles version, so they just have oldies station and navigating left before we get to paladin
naaah they’re gonna post jenna’s version too
just to stretch the time out even further
whatever they end up doing, i can see them maybe posting about navigating and then going like “see what happens next on june whatever”
the paladin placeholder still says early june 😀
imagine it was a mistake and they meant to say late june
if it were somehow delayed i think they wouldve let us know
that’d be so funny haha 😃😃😃
we still have about a week before it isn’t considered early june anymore
They really better not be teasing the Paladin MV with the 25 stuff
Because they almost certainly had that all set up by the time of the livestream and they would've known then that's not early June
that makes no sense at all why would they say early june then be like actually 25
those things were hours apart from each other
we got the puzzle from the exhibit the morning after the stream
i was thinking about this yesterday. 25 can’t be connected to paladin
Plus the whole 'we'll be upfront with you if it isn't new music' thing
maybe we arent being annoying enough
Say less 😈
like its literally early june i think we have the right to be annoying about it
im already doing my parts on there
i think we can maybe start pestering them starting next week since that’s pushing the Early thing but any noise is good noise
maybe tyler will see it if someone posts about it on instagram
It's already at the point that it's weird tho, if we assume they handle it the same way as the singles then they should be saying something by tomorrow or it's not early june
yep
unless they really do drop it with no announcement. or do the announcement the day before
Also, I do think it's weird to not use the 7th for it
7th seemed fitting for many reasons fr
gonna wait a bit more i think they did sometimes post at like 3pm
the merch preorder date was just a random date??
the last cope i have for today is that they’ll say something at 6:25pm
Fr that was my thought as well 
It's possible, but the Simone Veil thing makes too much sense
a good thought process to have is: “if it makes too much sense, it has a high chance of not happening”
50/50
Not normally with TOP
With this band yep 😭 (except we'll learn why it actually makes sooo much more sense with another trail of cryptic clues they leave out)
They always have reasons though fr
occam’s razor and all that. don’t know how that could apply here
occam’s razor tells me something is definitely happening on the 25th
yes
Nice! It totally looks like an official promo lol
post that on twitter and everybody gonna be freaking
Absolutely awesome job
Although ultimus translates to last or final I guess
But it looks sick as frick
lol
thank you
I did one for routines today too
album cover kinda thing
Dang for real these are awesome
Sick!!
but anyways
I think the cutoff for Paladin is by next Friday
I think tomorrow is a key day
I was totally expecting the announcement for “next week the last music video for our new album Clancy debuts.”
and then a snip to get the hype train rolling
but along with this is going to be some sort of message
that says like “or is it?
some bs like that to hint at 6/25
what if the preview they give us is just clancy in the woods and the audio is the birds 😭
yeah
post this with some cryptic acc name and I bet some people will believe it
either tomorrow. or the 9th
i’m so delusional at this point i’m expecting this video to be like 20 minutes long and there’s gonna be like 2-4 extra songs in this video and they’re gonna release those songs as an EP/part of a deluxe later
Fr fr, I think for me I'm trying not to theorize too much about the contents of the video cause I wanna experience whatever they decide to give us
But I don't doubt they have a plan
And I'm 100% convinced there's new music coming as well lmaooo
what name we thinkin
some random keyboard number smash with some underscores scattered around
Make sure it's 11 characters though
P6LA2IN_IN_5IO
Lmao
Clancy double album fake leak wikipedia vandalizer if you're in this chat, do it again pls
Twitter fans are so gullible, you'll see 9999999 rts and qrts in one hour
get one “big clikkie” to retweet that and it’s over LOL
lmao
cooking!1!
when i come back im waiting to have a big account call me out or somthing lol
when you are an admin in JLA server
the big clikkies believe the fakest shit 😭😭
i literally dont use tweitter'
i just need like 3 people to start pretending like its real lol
fuck you jeremy
let me cook
now we are cooking
i have a feeling now i replied more people are gonna see 😭
lol
idk how twitter works
just repost and say like ??
ok gonna go workout
lets see where we are in a hour or two
WAIT
I JUST REALIZED
what if "clancy seized for ep" = "clancy seized for epilogue"
Are we sure these aren't original assets?
pls, I don't wanna get my hopes up
This is evidence against it being real, I can't remember the last TOP tracklist that wasn't weird in some way at first 😼
Here's an idea that popped up in my (delulu) brain:
Tomorrow, video for paladin strait. Then 25.06. a 47? min (the time Josh needed for the 10k run) movie as an epilogue to the world of dema?
Cmon guys, really solid???
I’ll buy that for a dollar
That time (47:14) is already approximately the length of Clancy
I think it's the exact length with extra silence cut out
what does pg3thrada mean
I FORGOT ABOUT SNAP BACK. yeah there’s no way they’re gonna cram in these posts before they tease paladin soon/next week/tomorrow (
)
yeah
it would be really cool if they did a countdown
or Paul freaking meany can keep going with those breakdowns
Lavash cafe has a giveaway that ends at 6:25pm on the 8th 👀
Not the 6:25 again hahahaha
This can’t possibly be a reoccurring coincidence right? Maybe Lavash is aware of the 6:25 stuff and is messing with us? 🤷🏻♂️
what the hell HJADHAHAH
possibly
It's a really random time to end a giveaway so I think they at the very least know about the theories
this is really gonna hurt if nothing happens on june 25th
The question is why do they know. Because they got really into the band suddenly and delved into theories and decided 6:25 would be funny? Or because they reached out to the band to ask about permissions for the lyrics/shirt and the band said “hey maybe end your thing at 6:25 because we are teasing our fans with that number”
Me toooo!!!
My record finally came in :D
How do y'all keep going in this thread? Like there hasn't been new stuff really in a bit
I mean we had the interview last night
THERE ARE 7600 MESSAGES IN HERE
Delusion
I feel like y'all are just going to collectively will the album into existence with this much discussion
7.6k messages is no joke
The next largest channel in here only has 600
apparently the CM might just be a big clikkie
Indeed, certainly possible!
Nothing?
NOTHING!??
What about yesterday when Josh said chapters with an S!
That’s gotta be worth at least 1000 messages
You also missed the ongoing top support social engineering arc
You’re right. This is the guy who made the shirt and this is who he follows on IG
Which is still so weird to me how they just went silent
who are u responding to?
He’s responding to PH
ooooh i see
My bad, relatively nothing
I mean plenty of stuff to speculate off of, and I know that's how the whole server works, but holy cow there's a lot in here haha
Um Josh? WHAT do you mean by this???
yo???
So beginning of an era (Clancy album cycle) end of one as well (trench storyline) - or will be (????)
O yea, I thought that had been discussed
Idk I hadn't seen it 😭
just another thing to add to the massive pile of evidence
reddit clique is going to be in shambles when the announcement drops
the boys: "we're dropping a new album... in 3 years"
wait
i dont follow the differences of the clique on diff sites, why?
for some reason 90% of the sub is strongly against the idea of a double album or even more music
and reacts to every piece of evidence with delusional amounts of skepticism
ahh gotcha
That’s why I love this community so much more. I didn’t even know this existed till pretty recently, but I’m glad I found it.
Same!! :>
Also here's Josh again but this time literally calling us out for what we've all been doing the past few weeks 😭😭
"Some kinda arguments over what the outcome was" you have no idea 😔
Or maybe you do idk
where is this interview?
It's on Apple music's description of the Clancy album
dang I don't have apple music ;-;
whats fake?
ur mom
Omfggg 😭
aw you got me
JLA nooooo
They made it lololll
thats a picture from the digital remains album
not something new
also its not quite square
oh wait it wouldnt have to be nvm
but like
i'd be more open to it being real if it wasn't in the digital remains thing.
can you give the context to this statement? like what was said right before?
This is basically the whole thing it's not very long, but it was a description of lavish
but like what if
ty :D
Nw!! :3
WHAT DO YOU MEAN JOSH WHAT THE HECK
I'm sayingggggg 😭😭
ooooh yeah, i think that's what he meant, it's the end of the Trench storyline, they're gonna move on smth else
doesnt he just mean that it will be the end eventually, he said this when overcompensate came out
spread the loop theory smh
fool you once, it's been 25 times
hi any snap necks
it feels like a part 1 of a two part album
I think the thing I was recently reminded of that is most telling to me is
genuinely
Tyler said the album would be neatly wrapped with a bow
i had a idea
and it definitely isn't so far
it's so unlikely that the Final Chapter is not music
what if, if the
double album
starts with a mashup of all top songs and its just titled clancy
we need the second half
then it will be
everything will tie together
😌
like
wh
at
just a though i had in my dream
lol
what we learned from clancy so far?
- theres multiple joshes
mhm
I tweeted this out, curious to get more thoughts on it. Don't really have any clique connections on twitter tho so idk if anyone will even see it
https://x.com/mikronathema/status/1798874466535293144
i see
brad: 2/10, not trench 2
LMAO
likely a fake
also what is it, a review? how could they get the album and nobody else (leakers for example)
also, epilogue? maybe after the PS battle?
i love how theres fakes of a "double album" that wasnt confirmed ye
lmao
rdmngefhbtr
Fantano: 5/10, cringe
(idk what he would say)
Looks like a press description or whatever they call it
If it's real, I had a theory earlier that maybe "clancy seized for ep" = epilogue
that's so weird like some info would've probably leaked from other people, no?
ye, I'd think so
iirc it was just some random blog too that only had two posts, this and clancy
CLANCY ULTIMATE CHAPTER:
brad: 1/10 - no trenches needs more trenches where is my trenches they have to make the same album again and again like ubisoft where are my trenches i need them
To be fair idk how vk got that clancy tracklist early either
but that was more legitimate
lol
and no one belived
true
Ye, but still
tbh
yea, out of the fakes i've seen so far it's probably the only one i've seen so far that's not immediately 100% obviously fake w/ track titles they'd never use
or a cover they'd never use
the cover could be legitimate, since we don't have any context (yet)
I'm still curious because someone said the flowers on this came from trench assets, does anyone know if that's true and where they come from?
where did u find it
someone posted on bluesky
i still think they would've made another change tbh, like at least not use the same "Clancy" logo, to differentiate it more
yea, that struck me as odd too
oo
we didint met in feb 😭
shes prob honk mimimimi
I'm decently experienced with leaks and label promo too actually, used to run a small record label so I got to know a lot of the process of promotion and other background stuff
and I can't really be 100% either way on this one
but I will say the most suspicious thing to me right now is the source
but why aug
the fact that it was posted by someone random on bluesky and they traced it back to a random blog with no history of music content outside of TOP
can u send said blog
So I have two theories here, one is it's a troll/fake like all the others, or two, it's a site put up specifically to leak this
idk, probably just have to wait
like w/ clancy it'll be proven or disproven soon enough i think
assuming the website is fake the person who made the site could’ve easily just made that in photoshop
the alleged album cover isn’t really anything special- anyone could make it
The website also posted the Clancy track list, albeit the day after it was properly announced. So not much of a precedent of them leaking.
That being said, I would be SO down for this to be real. 11 track epilogue would go so hard.
would TinEye find matches if it uses pre-existing assets?
cool cover, 99% not real but cool
realest fake
tøp when given the perfect date to say Anything (they don't take the opportunity)
Wasn’t Fairly Local a surprise release? What if they aren’t saying anything or announcing when the music video will release for Paladin? Maybe it’ll just drop at some point out of nowhere.
that cover is almost certain to be fake, but i will admit its actually very pretty. me likey.
lead singles are usually surprise-dropped , post-announcement singles are usually announced
i could see the announcement being today (thr 7th) and then the mv being early next week
it most certainly will not be dropped during the weekend , that goes against industry standard
Nothing about this is really standard tho
Really hoping for paladin to drop and announce clancy deluxe. For me it doesn't sound like the end I think for me the end of the storyline would sound like the start of heavydirtysoul so it's a loop
its also not a single as far as we know, just a music video
Lowkey hoping the reason there hasn't been a mv announcement is because the video is an announcement itself for more
Was gonna say I don’t think they’d announce the video, I think they’d just drop it
If the description itself spoils something that would be a reason to hold off on a premiere maybe
oh that makes sense actually yea
I noticed that the banner of the « adh.. » account on twitter is showing a red line
I honestly didn’t give attention to this
But
August 6th? Kinda weird
Paladin video drops when that lavash comp ends?
dunno, they posted clancy tracklist when it was already released
not to mention the track names are so.....plain
dosent sound anything like they'd put
also the album cover has a lot of noise artifacts, the ones you get from generative AI
hhmmmmmm
ai doesn't produce artifacts like that
Doesn't look like ai artifacts,
But it does look like someone tried to cheaply recreate the film grainy look we see on the actual clancy album cover
yeah , also these flowers were used on trench merch , they wouldnt recycle assets like that
couldn't just they edit the description then
Josh is single handedly keeping this theory alive
I’ve said this a thousand but fuck it I’ll say it again
The time period of mid to late 2019 til the released of SAI is a long time.
Whether that is instrumentals produced or straight up songs/lyrics.
Seeing how short SAI was
And seeing how imo short Clancy was it wasn’t adding up.
I was expecting at least 10 more minutes on this album (around 55-57 minutes) but if we look at the album length and cut out the craving and shorten paladin the album comes out to around 40ish minutes? Just doesn’t add up imo plus this album in terms of sounds is great but the marketing and the way it was pushed out about it being so lore heavy wasn’t very good.
Sorry but 80% of this album is not lore based, focused or even hinted at.
At least in Trench we had songs like levitate, morph, NATNS, bandito, and leave the city.
We have what OC, and navigating?
And maybe vignette?
Well I'm not complaining since I love the album, but all that is just evidence to me that something more is coming :>
Don’t get it twisted
I love the album
But the way it was marketed and the way it was delivered (as of right now) was dog ass and some could argue misleading
IF YOU CANT SEE I AM CLANCY!!!!
(silence for 11 tracks)
I got to experience everything leading up to BF and so on (was about 4 months late to the vessel release :/ yes I’m an old fan haha) but this album is their weirdest one when it came to marketing believe it or not
“Yeah we gonna be straight forward on this album”
Guy said Clancy and fucked off
Thanks Tyler 🚶
“if you can’t see i am clancy” -> (~38 mins) -> “hello clancy”
it wouldn’t change how much i love the album, but if that was meant to be the grand finale, it definitely would change how much i love the lore. i doubt one mv could solve that, especially because they’re a BAND and it’s about the music, not the visuals.
lavish, my favorite lore heavy song since nico and the niners🫣
But don’t market it being so lore centered and then not dabble in it.
no me too. but i feel like it’s an album of personal experiences and pushing through struggles. and it does that amazingly. that’s definitely partially what the lore is about, but not the entirety of it
“But routines and vignette could be lore” that’s the thing “could be” I’m holding them to their word. They said it would be straight forward. Even navigating doesn’t sound lore related at all and it got a mv.
YEAH EXACTLY they’re possibly lore in the same way certain songs off of blurryface might be
I get what you’re saying but when they say lore, I expect dema shit head on like they marketed it

I just can't wait to find out what they're teasing
If it isn't June 25th I might actually explode
RiTN is also lore-adjacent
ah sry
OC and PS are the songs that have direct lore references
I find it interesting that only the first and "last" songs have lore references
How would they get the flowers from the merch?
Tbh if there was a double album or anything else additional, I wouldn't see it as part of Clancy
I'd see it as a continuation but its own thing
Might still listen together sometimes tho
Also bf has more BF cameos than anything lore related in clancy
On my last listen I caught more lore-related stuff than I realized last time
Hometown, Doubt, and The Judge stand out
Stressed out, fairly local, lane boy has bf directly speaking
Hds got the bf death video
i mean, BF is Blurryface's album
Clancy is much more centered on Clancy (obviously)
Where 😭
The themes of the songs, lack of Blurryface direct presence (only some references in RiTN MV and PS)
It it not surprising that BF has... well, more BF cameos
honestly
sonically , bf is a LOT more lore than trench
like EVERY bf song is about battling some insecurities
which is the main concept of bf
but trench has stuff like legend , smithereens , pet cheetah (?) which are very disconnected from the lore (pet cheetah has the cheetah gif dmaorg connection but thats very lose imo)
pet cheetah is lore
sai's entire sound is based in lore
sai imo is probably the most cohesive album between the lore and the music
clancy is the least
oh absolutely
do u know what i think
midwest could be lore too , but in the more vague way like chlorine
track 9 was gonna be vignatte, but it got chanced to navigating
like chlorine is lore bc of the concept of ned , but its p disconnected from trench until sai tied it in
vignette the song is def lore , but the mv doesnt seem to be
it original was gonna be probably
unless its about torchbearer coming to clancy in a vision LOL
but got chanced to navigating because josh
yeah i agree 100%
like how the outside mv was totally originally planned for never take it
Really? Where was that said
tbf
"i am on an island no one to confide"
i just realized yesterday that the lyrics could be lore-related
but as it is , the craving , lavish , backslide (i mean the concept of backsliding is lore but like the video and song isnt really) , at the risk , oldies - none of those are lore really
in a way they still tell a sort of story
imo
but yeah... there's not much direct lore
it wasnt said , but the 4 teased singles for sai were shy away , choker , saturday , and nti. also nti is directly after saturday , just like how the mv is a direct sequel. and the lyrics "weaponize you and i" from nti fit so much better w the events than anything in the outside
sure they tell a story within themselves ,,, but its not clancys story
okeyy but like thats more about personal music than LORE
well ,,, not quite
clancy is a character being portrayed by tyler
irl tyler does not live in dema and cannot seize people
hes his alter
so clancys backstory and irl tylers are not the same
he has 2 faces
blurryface and clancy
and hes fairly local
hes been arround
he seen the streets
your walking down
good people now
oh oh oho
sorry
refklhgefkeyhlrfd
I seee
yes , but thats irl
within the lore , they are real people
so within the lore , irl tyler doesnt exist
who is this imaginary redditor that we havent even seen yet
i cant find any mention of this on the subreddit
I can't either
it sounds made up to me
the specific phrasing was clearly meant to connect to him saying "does this sound like an end," it's too pointed to be likely imo
also they didnt stop to meet people after the columbus show right like they just went straight to their cars lol
it sounds like they're saying he said exactly what they need him to say for them to try to refute people saying it's not the end
I was so rooting for NTI as the single/music video
I love The Outside, I'm glad it got a video
but I'd love NTI as a single too, wish we'd had both
hello any paladin vid
no
Hello any 🤡
New billboard today in Warsaw. Which is where the first billboard at the start of the era was.
User is chokermv on twitter; they haven’t posted anything else about it
new album rollout starting now??
THAT SMIRK AFTER HE SAID THAT
Looks better than the first one
Welcome back yet again to Trench
different design, it could still be an old one from the first roll out, but then it would be weird if that would only pop up recently
Apparently it was definitely today
seems likely
Lending more significance to June 7. Idk. At this point I don’t think we are getting Paladin but I guess they could just surprise drop it. Ugh.
if it is today... i don't think they would do that just for PS? at least in such a vague way
they must be teasing smth else
could the billboards be part of the marketing for paladin? does that mean it’ll probably drop next week?
i could be wrong, but i think they would be more clear about what it is about?
but i don’t see how this could lead into paladin… are other billboards going to pop up??
unless the billboards are for the deluxe album 
cuz it doesn't tell us anything yk
yeah like we already know the album is out
and i don’t believe they’ve ever marketed an album with a billboard like that after it came out?
It’s interesting there is no yellow in this billboard
For reference here is the one from February in Warsaw
isn't the text in a sort of yellow?
It looks white to me
y'all are schizos
it looks light cause it's not made for crazy color accuracy
it's just bright
joe, you need to use your minds eye
kinda just looks like the phone camera messing with the yellow due to how bright it is


