#Double Album Confirmed

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glacial fulcrum
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Agree agree, I didn't like sai's cover at first but I adore it now

empty jasper
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It's not another album, it's a graphic novel

glacial fulcrum
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I love Clancy sm f_ChikaGiggle clancy

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Honestly it genuinely could be

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But also

warm crescent
glacial fulcrum
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This convinces me there's at least some new music

pale harness
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hmmm

warm crescent
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i think especially since they’ve basically given us a date for SOMETHING, they would’ve told us by now if it wasn’t music

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clancy final chapter 25 like cmon let’s be fr what else do we interpret from that besides music

glacial fulcrum
pale harness
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I don't know why but to me expecting more music feels so... wrong?

glacial fulcrum
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I get that tbf, it feels like setting yourself up for disappointment

pale harness
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like al artist goes "here's something I worked on for a long time I poured my soul into this" and then as a fan you're like "ok but more??"

that's kinda how I feel about it

real field
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Like we're being greedy and ungrateful?

warm crescent
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it feels wrong because they just dropped an album and we’re already thinking of something coming right around the corner

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but the band is obviously teasing us for more stuff coming from this era

pale harness
real field
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I get it

glacial fulcrum
pale harness
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I also don't believe the whole "they have had music ready since 2020"

glacial fulcrum
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I wouldn't be disappointed if there's nothing else

warm crescent
pale harness
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cuz we know from a lot of sources that Tyler almost broke himself working on Trench for the full cycle

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he almost broke himself and delivered an album with 14 tracks

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music takes a long time

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we got 13 now i doubt we're getting more

glacial fulcrum
lean mango
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They said they had an album almost finished at the time they released SAI

glacial fulcrum
pure timber
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I think we’ll get our answers from the paladin mv
If clancy lays down in dema while it burns down like people are saying I think that would be a good way to end it and I wouldn’t expect any new music after that

lean mango
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I don't remember specifically, some interview

pale harness
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4th time asking this but where did they say that

lean mango
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I could try to dig it up but I definitely saw it

glacial fulcrum
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Fr I'd like to check it out to make sure 😭

warm crescent
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zane lowe interview i think, definitely one of the big interviews from that era

lean mango
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Yea, I think it was that one

warm crescent
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they were recording during the bandito tour in 2019 and up until covid

glacial fulcrum
warm crescent
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and that was before SAI as a concept was even conceived

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so either way there was SOMETHING being made that wasn’t SAI

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whether or not it got to a point of being finished is up to interpretation

pale harness
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Yeah but they also scrap bunch of songs

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like Drag Path

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or

lean mango
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Drag Path wasn't scrapped in that sense

pale harness
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Without Josh both Navigating and RITN were not on the album

lean mango
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it looks like it was just never made beyond early lyrics stage

pale harness
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who knows how many songs this guy scrapped

lean mango
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In reality we don't know how many songs are actually recorded and then scrapped

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but it's one thing if it's some songs and another if it's a whole album and album concept

warm crescent
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songs are scrapped but there’s also the possibility of those songs being placed on a back burner for a while

pale harness
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true

warm crescent
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it’s not uncommon for artists to sit on songs for years before releasing them on a later record

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or retooling them to fit a new concept

left kite
warm crescent
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i think the risky record was SAI and one that followed up on trench (sonically) is what he said

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might be wrong

lean mango
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But really, the thing I keep coming back to is, Tyler has crazy ideas sometimes, if he wanted to make a double album I have no doubt that he'd find a way to make it work. For me the logistics of if it's possible aren't the question, it's just whether he did or not

pale harness
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Yeah I suppose. I do still think a whole other album is insanely difficult

lean mango
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This actually lends some weight to my theory imo

lean mango
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The idea that Dema burning down will coincide with his creativity being released, metaphorically, and he'll come out with an album of really weird personal music that will be a lot more niche

left kite
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Yeah, I thought Clancy was the other "risky" one until he started saying they only started writing Clancy a year ago

lean mango
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Clancy doesn't really sound risky either

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It explores some slightly new directions for TOP but a lot of the songs are catchy and/or radio-friendly

left kite
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Yeah, but he could've also just been saying that it's more risky than SAI, not necessarily riskier than their other music. But maybe

lean mango
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riskiest thing on the album is that one line in Lavish

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I'd like to see again, if I can find it

pale harness
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I'm gonna sif through interviews and see if i can find anything

lean mango
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I don't even think Clancy is riskier than SAI

left kite
# pale harness where was this

I don't remember the interview. I think it mightve been the one over zoom where he's in the suit and glasses after LOC released

cloud lynx
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since Clancy is not that one

left kite
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This was 4 years ago tho!! They totally could've scrapped the album

cloud lynx
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yeah sure, a finished or almost finished album

lean mango
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Sometimes artists do

cloud lynx
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sure

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but

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in this context?

lean mango
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IDK if TOP would especially in this context

cloud lynx
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not impossible, but with the amount of clues we have now, and other stuff, idk

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seems so unlikely to just scrap an entire album

lean mango
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But anyway, bottom line, I don't think "they didn't have time to make another album" is a good argument if it assumes that it was scrapped

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because we don't know

left kite
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Okay I'm mixing two interviews

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Here's about one being risky

empty jasper
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whatever comes is not expected to be commercially successful, so it'll more likely be something just for the fans, very lore heavy, and more of a expository piece than what I think of as an album or EP or song. Like the outro music of a heavy-hitting music video.

lean mango
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huh, ok, interesting, so that doesn't say it was almost ready

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who knows then, whole argument there might be inaccurate

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but I'm curious if you had the other one

cloud lynx
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i expect the final chapter to be way riskier and less radio-friendly

warm crescent
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if there’s a disc 2 i do hope that it’s full on lore heavy, but i also doubt that

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based on how he was talking in the livestream (if i’m remembering correct)

lean mango
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why's that?

warm crescent
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maybe it was one of the interviews this era, but tyler was talking about how it’s hard to make a record that fully focused on one concept

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so i don’t think that another record would be “full lore” but definitely more than what’s on clancy

cloud lynx
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I think in the second part, there might be more references to the world of Trench and the lore in general, kinda like on Trench (Nico and the Niners, Bandito, certain lines in Morph)m

warm crescent
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in other words RIP “Door Keys” and “insert fake song name here”

glacial fulcrum
glacial fulcrum
glacial fulcrum
left kite
warm crescent
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part of me feels like tyler just loves to troll us

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clancy ultimus capitulus is just another mega collectors item with blurryface, trench, sai, and clancy

glacial fulcrum
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Honestly

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I'd take it over the theory that it's an album of remastered old songs

cloud lynx
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they wouldn't risk it

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lol

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he loves to troll us, but he wouldnt troll us that way

left kite
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"The final chapter is just all the previous chapters put into one" doesn't really make sense lol

glacial fulcrum
left kite
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What would be sick tho is to sell a collection like that with an exclusive extra LP with the final chapter and some outtakes from the other albums

glacial fulcrum
cloud lynx
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naaah guys i'm rly thinking there is a huge possibility for a second album

lean mango
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I think it's definitely possible still

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we'll see

cloud lynx
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i'm gonna lose my mind

cloud lynx
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either that or it just drops out of nowhere

glacial fulcrum
cloud lynx
glacial fulcrum
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Yeahhhhhh!! :>

warm crescent
glacial fulcrum
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These were some posts liquid found relating to sai, they had hardly anything at all in terms of 'evidence'

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This isn't just like a delulu 'there must be more right???' theory. shits been weird with this band recently, we've gotta discuss it!

olive plume
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i’ve gotten my hopes up before with my other fandoms and they never really amounted to anything but this really feels like it has to lead somewhere 😭

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what else could clancy final chapter 25 even mean grief grief grief grief grief grief grief grief grief grief grief grief grief grief grief grief

rancid gust
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ye these guys have a history of this sorta thing too

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not the double album specifically but the cryptic clues thing

rancid gust
warm crescent
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if it’s another record and it’s officially announced before the release

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i hope any physical versions release after the actual streaming drop

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so there’s no leaks like a week before 😭

olive plume
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yeah, i feel like it’s likely going to be a digital/streaming release at first

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physical releases later

lean mango
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I wouldn't be surprised

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it'd be good both for fans' wallets and for preventing a leak

glacial fulcrum
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Can anyone fill me in on what 'toad barrow' actually was? Was it a scrapped song like drag path or..

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I think it would be such a funny name for a song lmaooo

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But in the pet cheetah way where its actually a banger

warm crescent
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it was just a track on a fake tracklist lol

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TOAD BARROW TOAD BARROW TOAD BARROW

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there were also honorable mentions like “Lloyd”

slate jewel
glacial fulcrum
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Torch bearer - Toad barrow

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Josh is a toad confrimed???

warm crescent
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TORCH BEARER TORCH BEARER TORCH BEARER

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unironically hard hook

glacial fulcrum
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I unironically would kill for anything called torchbearer, album B side, song whatever

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I just want Josh to go off man!!

warm crescent
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need a 2 minute drum solo with time signature changes, polyrhythms, etc

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fuck it

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torchbearer track but it’s just drums

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nothing else

slate jewel
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pls

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drums but he's drumming in such a way that you can hear the lyrics

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LMAO

glacial fulcrum
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I'm sayinnnnnnngggggg

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I need more drum and bass type stuff from Josh like lane boy or the beginning of overcompensate

slate jewel
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so true

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also more fast rap from tyler
where's my ots/hds/levitate

glacial fulcrum
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Thissssss

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So about the 6/25 clue that was taken from this puzzle, I looked at the image and only found 3 visible antlers hanging here

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They're hard to make out but they're definitely there - so why only 3 as opposed to the 6 at the in person event?

distant beacon
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I think it’s 3 pairs

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So 6 total

fallow violet
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nope

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there were 6 but they were put somewhere else

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3 were hanging on ropes (as pictured)

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and the other three were: one was on the table in front and two were on a drum kit or something

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it was drawn on the sketch someone made

glacial fulcrum
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Maybe I'm off the deep end now but something seemed sus about there only being 3 in the photo

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Like instead of the production team just moving them into frame

fallow violet
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yeah thats why Im kinda meh about 25/6 because they didnt put the 6 of them in this puzzle so maybe theyre not relevant

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but then again they were still put there for the event, in the context of just the event it deffo seems like they should mean something

olive plume
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march 2025 new date

fallow violet
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maybe they just couldnt showcase them in the digital format since they were also on the table.. idk

glacial fulcrum
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It's true, the 6/june part has significantly less evidence toward it, especially compared to the amount of 25s we're seeing everywhere

olive plume
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i don’t want to wait until 2025 grief grief grief grief grief grief grief grief

glacial fulcrum
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Me neither :c

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It'll be after my Clancy tour show date!

fallow violet
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depends on what it will be i guess

wraith gulch
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Remember Josh’s 6.25 mile run

fallow violet
olive plume
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PLEASEEEEE

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reminding myself people can just lie on reddit for fun

fallow violet
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someone contact the dj again sdfhsjfd

sly hazel
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Someone needs to find a DJ contact and find out some stuff

olive plume
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surely altguy would have heard something

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that reddit user is most active in an arkansas subreddit so we gotta narrow it down from there

sly hazel
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the hunt for the Local Top 40 NW Arkansas DJ

olive plume
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i didn’t even realize they said they were from arkansas in their comment. i just got tunnel vision and zoned right in on “other projects”

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they said the same thing on a different reddit post. i guess it’s true someone can lie twice…

lean mango
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why are so many people into the old music rerelease theories, I swear they're more common in the last couple of days than any other kind of theory on what the ending could be

olive plume
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probably just nostalgia

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and also wanting self-titled to be included in the lore, even though tyler said the story begins with vessel

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doesn’t mean he couldn’t have been toying with the same themes and ideas back then though. but that doesn’t mean it’s necessarily lore/story

rancid gust
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just gotta call into the station and be like "hey can you play drag path? I really like that song"

lean mango
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would be funny

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ofc they'll have no idea what that is

rancid gust
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true, unless they got it all ahead of time but can't play it yet

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like the anonymous dj up there

fallow violet
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the one radio station i found with a top 40 radio format is KMCK-FM

fallow violet
rancid gust
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like 5+ comments/posts about it

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in the last couple days

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maybe some youtuber mentioned they think that'll happen?

fallow violet
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which might seem more likely

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found it in their recently played

lean mango
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there we go

rancid gust
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gotta start doing a bit of social engineering

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tryna get the phone guy to tell you whats up

fallow violet
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he posted "just heard the song" at like 10am arkansas time and this one was 11:20pm the day before

lean mango
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he might've been intending to say something before and just didn't change his wording, or thought it didn't matter since no one would care about how recent it actually was

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I've done that sometimes xd

fallow violet
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yeah i can see that

rancid gust
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I do that too sometimes to make posts more cohesive

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just and just yesterday isn't too far of a stretch right?

fallow violet
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ok but also another thing that doesnt match

rancid gust
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tbf tho I don't trust the random guy who knew a guy

fallow violet
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the show at 11:20 is hosted by an Angelina and the post says he talked to a He

rancid gust
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even if a radio station might be the best way to get that info

rancid gust
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yeah not the same one :/

fallow violet
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gonna go look for another station then ig

ember sinew
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Sorry if this is outta nowhere but idk whereelse to ask

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What exactly sparked the double album theory

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Like now there’s plenty of evidence but people were bringing it up before release

lean mango
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The other site doesn't really show anything either tho

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People often bring up double album theories with little to no evidence

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the difference here is it picked up again when evidence started to appear

fallow violet
rancid gust
ember sinew
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yeah

rancid gust
ember sinew
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like literally in this server on 2/29 people were trying to call a clancy/torchbearer double album

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it seems like such a specific thing for people to predict

rancid gust
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ok I'll start diggin'

fallow violet
ember sinew
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what site is that?

fallow violet
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mytuner-radio.com but i only found it because i googled top 40 radio stations in arkansas lol

rancid gust
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I think the main thing was that all the other albums said "from the full length album"

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while clancy only says "from the album"

fallow violet
rancid gust
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mhmm

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I just tried to pull ones up from before the album dropped

ember sinew
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that checks out

rancid gust
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which I honestly still think is weird

lean mango
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yea, tbh people have brought up that Saturday doesn't say "full length"

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but this entire era doesn't

fallow violet
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yeah only saturday is the exception

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other sai mvs have it i think even choker

lean mango
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which leaves two possibilities imo

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either it's just an arbitrary thing they chose to do differently this time

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or it is implying something more

fallow violet
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the fact it only doesnt have it on saturday but other sai mvs have it makes it seem like the saturday one was just a mistake

rancid gust
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what does it say on saturday?

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from the album?

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oh yeah, yeah it does doesn't it

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I don't think I ever saw the whole music video for saturday

fallow violet
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shy away, choker and the outside have "full length"

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weird

slate jewel
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josh dun more like josh run

rancid gust
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josh dun more like

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uh

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slosh gun!

slate jewel
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holy shit

lean mango
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more like josh undun

slate jewel
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NO WAY

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more like
more like josh bun 🍞

rancid gust
slate jewel
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am I the only dun I know

fallow violet
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researched the radio stations and there were only 3 viable options but 2 of those didnt match the reddit post and theres only one that i cant find a recently played playlist for so i cant refute it

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KISR 93.7 FM

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only option left otherwise the reddit bro is most likely lying

lean mango
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just checked the barely active bluesky top feed and

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probably fake and doesn't mean anything but i kinda like the art

rancid gust
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ye idk who R. Sparks is

lean mango
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Probably someone random

olive plume
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not sure if anybody else saw this but that reddit user said this

fallow violet
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it’s the only one that i couldnt find the recently played for

olive plume
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i wonder if other people would be able to call the DJ and get the same/more info

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that is really funny though—great sleuthing work!!

fallow violet
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yeah someone should try

fallow violet
olive plume
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i was looking through their comment history and, as long as they weren’t lying, they said they were in their 50s and also a grandfather so hopefully that means we’re safe from a troll messing with us like that 😭

glacial fulcrum
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Lmaooooooo

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Thank you gramps

fallow violet
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hopefully some brave american soul here wants to contact the radio once they wake up

cloud lynx
glacial fulcrum
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I was looking at this video from about a year ago, not to indulge in leaks but it's interesting that it didn't go anywhere

distant beacon
glacial fulcrum
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Also... 'tower of light'?

distant beacon
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Sounds like a fake leak to me ngl

static sinew
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not yall falling for fake leaks from a YEAR ago

distant beacon
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Yeahhhhhhh that too

abstract thicket
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That was made by the Pet Cheetah guy I think

distant beacon
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Sounds like it.

glacial fulcrum
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Lmaooooo alright no worries 😭

distant beacon
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Lmao

glacial fulcrum
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It kinda goes hard though

lean mango
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I'd be up for it soon potentially, just need an idea of what to ask

fleet pier
rain birch
fallow violet
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wait

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he knows Knows the DJ??

lean mango
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I mean, what could that even mean as an offhand remark?

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I feel like the only way to interpret that as possibly not meaning anything is denial

fallow violet
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idk how to explain "other projects that they have planned" in any other way lmao

glacial fulcrum
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Especially for a DJ, if it was a movie or something non-music, why would they know about it 🤔

cloud lynx
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lmao

lean mango
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and there was more info with it, but they didn't say anything else

static sinew
lean mango
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are they? I haven't seen these ones

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besides the logo of course

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tho it doesn't have anything that wouldn't be easy to fake imo

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notably, no band pictures which kinda seems weird to me if it stays in the vein of the main album

static sinew
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the flowers are from trench

lean mango
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I asked them if they remember what else there was or if they can dig it up again

glacial fulcrum
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Too quiet...

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Guys CLEARLY there won't be anything coming next, the album is out and that's IT, Dema is OVER no more lore for us 🙄

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(Someone prove me wrong with documents of evidence plsplspls)

raven lagoon
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Does it sound like the end?fuckboyty

olive plume
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i don’t know how everybody feels about billie eilish but a fan confronted her about the double album theory she’s got going on and i also thought it was interesting that she neither confirmed nor denied it, just kept saying she couldn’t say anything https://fxtwitter.com/billieeilishtrs/status/1798458127173738808?s=46

Billie being asked about the “double album theory” at the "HIT ME HARD AND SOFT" @Deezer event in Paris, France today! 😭
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imagine her double album dropping the same day as clancy’s

glacial fulcrum
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Hahahah I'd love that

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I like how Billie and top's fanbases are kind of intertwined

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Trench and When we all fall asleep came out around the same time (ish), and now Clancy and Hit me have too lol

lean mango
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idk, that sounds like a denial to me

wraith gulch
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No not me it’s for a friend

fleet pier
olive plume
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or she’s racing back to the studio that night to make that second album

warm crescent
glacial fulcrum
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They are frantically trying to come up with lyrics for toad barrow

wraith gulch
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No not me it’s for a toad (barrow)

real field
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I forgot Billie existed since bad guy

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Never really listened to anything of hers

trail vigil
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Can you imagine how hype it would be if they made a joke album, with song snippets titled all the fake leak song names?

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Imagine if we could actually jam to Tyler singing Lloyd or Toad Barrow

lean mango
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would be cool

warm crescent
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if tyler ever uttered the name “Toad Barrow” i’d probably never recover

lean mango
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I'd still be up for getting a couple of people here together and making something like Magnum Opus of the Inglorious Kind for one of these fake tracklists

wintry bane
wraith gulch
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“NEARING” an end

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He also said “closing chapterS” plural

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Around the 3:25-3:35 mark

olive plume
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oh this is so delicious

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oh joshua please tell us how many exact chapters are remaining

wraith gulch
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Also if you watch the way he said that with the half smile was as if he and Tyler talked specifically about him working that phrase into the interview. He physically squirms as he tries to get the phrase proper then smiles after and relaxes.

olive plume
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i’m still trying not to get my hopes up but it’s so hard not to with all this grief

rancid gust
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Watching it rn

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I'm gonna laugh so hard when double album deniers are wrong lol

rancid delta
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theyre simply just teasing too much for nothing to happen

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whether its an album or not clearly paladin isnt the end

wraith gulch
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Very telling right

rancid gust
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its the only part of the interview where he does that so ye

trail igloo
teal compass
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I do think we’re getting more stuff but I could also really easily just see josh say “in the closing chapters” to describe the 3 Clancy lore music videos honesty hollow

warm crescent
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shhhhhh

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album 2 out soon

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muppets coming sooner

wraith gulch
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All possible for sure

rancid delta
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the fact he said chapterS, with an S, means we should get something after paladin. since we already have the other two lore videos this era i wouldnt count them as upcoming lol

wraith gulch
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He also has said he wouldn’t lead us on about new music if there wasn’t any. At this point the double album theory/hope/dream is so popular I think that he would shut it down if additional music of whatever length truly wasn’t what they are hinting at.

warm crescent
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even someone like mark, who lurks sees the fan stuff more frequently than someone like tyler would say smthn abt it i think

wraith gulch
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Yeah he shut down that fake dema call really fast. Idk if he would see it as his place to shut down a more music theory but I think he’d make sure Tyler is aware (of which I imagine he already is) of how prevalent it is

warm crescent
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i’m not sure but didn’t mark shut down the rumors of there being secret messages in the instagram ads?

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the ones with the caesar cyphers

stray kettle
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Im excited for what’s to come next, I do feel more music is coming.

As someone who listened to the leak, coming up on 3 weeks of listening to this album on repeat- safe to say my opinion of this being their best album wasn’t “new-bias”. This is the real deal, it really is the best imo.

Really curious if we get any news on Paladin tomorrow, and then of course from there we should find out what 6/25 entails.

warm crescent
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if nothings out this week, it’ll definitely be out by next week

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no time later than that

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…actually who am i kidding they’d probably release the MV on the 20th of june for shits n giggles

silent cairn
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There are a couple jobs to be done with the story. One is the introduction phase. The I Am Clancy piece is there to bring people in. But as you know there are so many layers to everything. It’s nice to extend a hand to anyone that feels like they need to do a full dive to be involved. That’s not needed, just an extra thing to dive into if you want to.

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I thought this was an interesting comment to bring back.

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I bet the pre-release singles were the introduction phase, the 24th is the second act, and Paladin Strait and whatever else is act III

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I don't think PS will be the entirety of act III, so something else will go with it.

fallow violet
lean mango
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99% sure it's fake unless we see it pop up elsewhere in the next little bit, the site just looks like some random blog someone made

storm fable
lean mango
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Ye, it's pretty vague

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Also the date it lists is a tuesday

storm fable
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do we know where the art for this "album cover" came from?
like is it traceable to something else, or an entirely original thing

lean mango
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Someone said the flowers are Trench assets

livid pine
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there’s a typo. “heals” instead of “heels”. if you’re trying to make yourself out to be an official report/review i think you’d be more careful about that so i’m thinking it’s very likely fake. kinda sucks because for the first time in any of these fake “clancy pt. 2” leaks, i really like the concept tracklist and cover😔

trail igloo
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Sorry to distract. Where did “claim cyan” come from

static sinew
trail igloo
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Oh if you invert a picture of Josh with his red hair, what colour would it be

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Sorry if a silly question

patent coral
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Still can't believe that this thread that got made right after OC dropped is still so active

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What a rollercoaster

glacial fulcrum
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Haha it's been a wild ride so far

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We'll see if any of it pays off I suppose

cloud lynx
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They improved, they learned from Trench & SAI, and it shows

lean mango
wicked pagoda
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You could try the app Poe. It’s like chat gpt

static sinew
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stop using ai

left kite
lean mango
rancid gust
wraith gulch
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dramatic music

Narrator: “By then it’ll be much too late…”

fade out

glacial fulcrum
wraith gulch
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“Hello, my fellow robots”

rancid gust
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So whatchu guys thinkin. Final guess. Will there be a paladin strait music video tomorrow?

glacial fulcrum
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...25 minutes past 1 🫠

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pls

distant beacon
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i think maybe midnight release

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Would be sick

cloud lynx
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i think it could be before or around midnight Ohio time (EST?)

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for the premiere*

distant beacon
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midnight premiere gang

cloud lynx
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i think there's a possibility lol

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or they drop the MV out of nowhere at midnight EST

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or in the morning 💀

tame tendon
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The mv is dropping tn?

cloud lynx
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We don't know?

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No official info, we're just speculating

tame tendon
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Ah

rancid gust
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Yeah some people think it’s dropping on the 7th. Was checking on people’s final guesses

rain birch
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my predict : teaser tonight, mv tomorrow

fallow violet
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well they said early june which in most peoples dictionary means 1st-10th day of the month and its not gonna happen on the weekend so tomorrow was our most likely candidate

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i dont see them releasing it on a monday either

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its getting weird

warm crescent
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if it’s not tomorrow then it’s definitely the 12th or 13th

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they’ve only really released visual stuff on like wednesdays and thursdays right

silent cairn
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Tuesdays and Fridays too

warm crescent
olive plume
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how many songs do we have left 😭 maybe they’re planning to post about all the videos first until we get to paladin

warm crescent
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i originally thought they’d drop the MV on the 13th since no band has ever chosen a “sensible” date within a timeframe for a release

olive plume
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to close it out

warm crescent
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“early june” = latest possible day that could somehow be considered early june/a day that is slightly after the early june window

olive plume
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we’ve had posts about atrofd, midwest indigo, lavish, vignette, and ritn now

olive plume
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i’m not sure if they would promo the craving since we already have the singles version, so they just have oldies station and navigating left before we get to paladin

warm crescent
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naaah they’re gonna post jenna’s version too

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just to stretch the time out even further

olive plume
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whatever they end up doing, i can see them maybe posting about navigating and then going like “see what happens next on june whatever”

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the paladin placeholder still says early june 😀

warm crescent
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imagine it was a mistake and they meant to say late june

fallow violet
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if it were somehow delayed i think they wouldve let us know

warm crescent
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that’d be so funny haha 😃😃😃

olive plume
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we still have about a week before it isn’t considered early june anymore

lean mango
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They really better not be teasing the Paladin MV with the 25 stuff

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Because they almost certainly had that all set up by the time of the livestream and they would've known then that's not early June

fallow violet
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that makes no sense at all why would they say early june then be like actually 25

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those things were hours apart from each other

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we got the puzzle from the exhibit the morning after the stream

olive plume
glacial fulcrum
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Plus the whole 'we'll be upfront with you if it isn't new music' thing

fallow violet
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maybe we arent being annoying enough

glacial fulcrum
fallow violet
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like its literally early june i think we have the right to be annoying about it

glacial fulcrum
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Time to make a twitter account

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/j

fallow violet
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im already doing my parts on there

olive plume
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i think we can maybe start pestering them starting next week since that’s pushing the Early thing but any noise is good noise

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maybe tyler will see it if someone posts about it on instagram

lean mango
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It's already at the point that it's weird tho, if we assume they handle it the same way as the singles then they should be saying something by tomorrow or it's not early june

olive plume
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unless they really do drop it with no announcement. or do the announcement the day before

lean mango
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Also, I do think it's weird to not use the 7th for it

fallow violet
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7th seemed fitting for many reasons fr

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gonna wait a bit more i think they did sometimes post at like 3pm

olive plume
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the merch preorder date was just a random date??

warm crescent
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the last cope i have for today is that they’ll say something at 6:25pm

glacial fulcrum
lean mango
warm crescent
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a good thought process to have is: “if it makes too much sense, it has a high chance of not happening”

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50/50

lean mango
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Not normally with TOP

glacial fulcrum
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They always have reasons though fr

olive plume
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occam’s razor and all that. don’t know how that could apply here

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occam’s razor tells me something is definitely happening on the 25th

burnt scarab
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totally real!1!1!1 (photoshop is cool)

glacial fulcrum
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Did you make it??

burnt scarab
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yes

glacial fulcrum
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Nice! It totally looks like an official promo lol

olive plume
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post that on twitter and everybody gonna be freaking

wraith gulch
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Although ultimus translates to last or final I guess

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But it looks sick as frick

burnt scarab
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I did one for routines today too

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album cover kinda thing

wraith gulch
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Dang for real these are awesome

glacial fulcrum
burnt scarab
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but anyways

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I think the cutoff for Paladin is by next Friday

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I think tomorrow is a key day

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I was totally expecting the announcement for “next week the last music video for our new album Clancy debuts.”

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and then a snip to get the hype train rolling

burnt scarab
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that says like “or is it?

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some bs like that to hint at 6/25

olive plume
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what if the preview they give us is just clancy in the woods and the audio is the birds 😭

burnt scarab
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yeah

rain birch
# burnt scarab

post this with some cryptic acc name and I bet some people will believe it

rancid delta
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either tomorrow. or the 9th

olive plume
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i’m so delusional at this point i’m expecting this video to be like 20 minutes long and there’s gonna be like 2-4 extra songs in this video and they’re gonna release those songs as an EP/part of a deluxe later

glacial fulcrum
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Fr fr, I think for me I'm trying not to theorize too much about the contents of the video cause I wanna experience whatever they decide to give us

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But I don't doubt they have a plan

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And I'm 100% convinced there's new music coming as well lmaooo

warm crescent
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some random keyboard number smash with some underscores scattered around

glacial fulcrum
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Make sure it's 11 characters though

olive plume
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and has the number 25

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and maybe some latin

wraith gulch
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P6LA2IN_IN_5IO

warm crescent
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NOT THIS AGAIN LMAOOO

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that story tyler posted haunts me to this day

burnt scarab
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spreading misinformation speedrun

lean mango
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Lmao

glacial fulcrum
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Clancy double album fake leak wikipedia vandalizer if you're in this chat, do it again pls

burnt scarab
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boom

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somebody go pretend like this is crazy

cloud lynx
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Twitter fans are so gullible, you'll see 9999999 rts and qrts in one hour

warm crescent
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get one “big clikkie” to retweet that and it’s over LOL

burnt scarab
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lmao

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cooking!1!

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when i come back im waiting to have a big account call me out or somthing lol

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when you are an admin in JLA server

olive plume
burnt scarab
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i literally dont use tweitter'

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i just need like 3 people to start pretending like its real lol

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fuck you jeremy

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let me cook

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now we are cooking

ripe arch
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i have a feeling now i replied more people are gonna see 😭

burnt scarab
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idk how twitter works

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just repost and say like ??

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ok gonna go workout

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lets see where we are in a hour or two

lean mango
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I JUST REALIZED

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what if "clancy seized for ep" = "clancy seized for epilogue"

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Are we sure these aren't original assets?

burnt scarab
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it may

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album cover is aight

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track list seems ok too

lean mango
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pls, I don't wanna get my hopes up

lean mango
cloud lynx
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remember when we thought the leaked Clancy tracklist was fake

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and the cover too

ebon jackal
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Here's an idea that popped up in my (delulu) brain:
Tomorrow, video for paladin strait. Then 25.06. a 47? min (the time Josh needed for the 10k run) movie as an epilogue to the world of dema?

Cmon guys, really solid???

wraith gulch
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I’ll buy that for a dollar

lean mango
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I think it's the exact length with extra silence cut out

burnt scarab
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what does pg3thrada mean

olive plume
burnt scarab
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it would be really cool if they did a countdown

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or Paul freaking meany can keep going with those breakdowns

fleet pier
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Lavash cafe has a giveaway that ends at 6:25pm on the 8th 👀

noble badge
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Not the 6:25 again hahahaha

fleet pier
fallow violet
noble badge
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It's a really random time to end a giveaway so I think they at the very least know about the theories

olive plume
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this is really gonna hurt if nothing happens on june 25th

left kite
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They know

wraith gulch
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The question is why do they know. Because they got really into the band suddenly and delved into theories and decided 6:25 would be funny? Or because they reached out to the band to ask about permissions for the lyrics/shirt and the band said “hey maybe end your thing at 6:25 because we are teasing our fans with that number”

noble badge
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Mannn I can't wait

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It makes me nervous

fleet pier
rancid gust
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My record finally came in :D

trail vigil
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How do y'all keep going in this thread? Like there hasn't been new stuff really in a bit

wraith gulch
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I mean we had the interview last night

trail vigil
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THERE ARE 7600 MESSAGES IN HERE

noble badge
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Delusion

trail vigil
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I feel like y'all are just going to collectively will the album into existence with this much discussion

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7.6k messages is no joke

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The next largest channel in here only has 600

fleet pier
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This is what we do here

cloud lynx
wraith gulch
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Indeed, certainly possible!

rancid gust
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Nothing?

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NOTHING!??

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What about yesterday when Josh said chapters with an S!

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That’s gotta be worth at least 1000 messages

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You also missed the ongoing top support social engineering arc

wraith gulch
wraith gulch
cloud lynx
wraith gulch
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He’s responding to PH

cloud lynx
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ooooh i see

trail vigil
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My bad, relatively nothing

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I mean plenty of stuff to speculate off of, and I know that's how the whole server works, but holy cow there's a lot in here haha

shell kite
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guys, its dropping in 5 minutes

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josh told me in a dream last night

glacial fulcrum
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Um Josh? WHAT do you mean by this???

shell kite
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yo???

glacial fulcrum
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So beginning of an era (Clancy album cycle) end of one as well (trench storyline) - or will be (????)

lean mango
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O yea, I thought that had been discussed

glacial fulcrum
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Idk I hadn't seen it 😭

lean mango
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just another thing to add to the massive pile of evidence

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reddit clique is going to be in shambles when the announcement drops

shell kite
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the boys: "we're dropping a new album... in 3 years"

shell kite
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i dont follow the differences of the clique on diff sites, why?

lean mango
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for some reason 90% of the sub is strongly against the idea of a double album or even more music

glacial fulcrum
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A lot of people on Reddit really don't believe the theory for some reason

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Fr

lean mango
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and reacts to every piece of evidence with delusional amounts of skepticism

shell kite
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ahh gotcha

fleet pier
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That’s why I love this community so much more. I didn’t even know this existed till pretty recently, but I’m glad I found it.

glacial fulcrum
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Same!! :>

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Also here's Josh again but this time literally calling us out for what we've all been doing the past few weeks 😭😭

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"Some kinda arguments over what the outcome was" you have no idea 😔

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Or maybe you do idk

rancid gust
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where is this interview?

glacial fulcrum
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It's on Apple music's description of the Clancy album

rancid gust
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dang I don't have apple music ;-;

burnt scarab
rancid gust
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whats fake?

slate jewel
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ur mom

glacial fulcrum
rancid gust
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aw you got me

burnt scarab
#

this

glacial fulcrum
#

JLA nooooo

rancid gust
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ok yeah

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yeah thats fake lol

burnt scarab
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nuh uh

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what gives it away in your opinion

glacial fulcrum
rancid gust
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thats a picture from the digital remains album

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not something new

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also its not quite square

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oh wait it wouldnt have to be nvm

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but like

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i'd be more open to it being real if it wasn't in the digital remains thing.

rancid gust
glacial fulcrum
glacial fulcrum
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Nw!! :3

cloud lynx
glacial fulcrum
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I'm sayingggggg 😭😭

cloud lynx
lean mango
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oh it's jlanderson

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toptuber

fallow violet
lean mango
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spread the loop theory smh

winged sapphire
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hai any

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25

cloud lynx
#

fool you once, it's been 25 times

winged sapphire
#

^

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it has to end

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there has to be a ending

cloud lynx
winged sapphire
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there has to be a ending to the story

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and paladin doesnt feel like it

cloud lynx
#

it feels like a part 1 of a two part album

lean mango
#

I think the thing I was recently reminded of that is most telling to me is

cloud lynx
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genuinely

lean mango
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Tyler said the album would be neatly wrapped with a bow

winged sapphire
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i had a idea

lean mango
#

and it definitely isn't so far

cloud lynx
winged sapphire
#

what if, if the

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double album

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starts with a mashup of all top songs and its just titled clancy

cloud lynx
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then it will be

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everything will tie together

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😌

winged sapphire
#

like

winged sapphire
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they said the albums gonna be heay

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lore

winged sapphire
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lol

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what we learned from clancy so far?

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  • theres multiple joshes
cloud lynx
#

we learned some other stuff tbh

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outside of the album itself

winged sapphire
#

mhm

lean mango
winged sapphire
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am saying

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inside thea album

cloud lynx
lean mango
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LMAO

cloud lynx
#

also what is it, a review? how could they get the album and nobody else (leakers for example)
also, epilogue? maybe after the PS battle?

winged sapphire
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i love how theres fakes of a "double album" that wasnt confirmed ye

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lmao

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rdmngefhbtr

winged sapphire
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if that was real

cloud lynx
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(idk what he would say)

lean mango
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If it's real, I had a theory earlier that maybe "clancy seized for ep" = epilogue

cloud lynx
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that's so weird like some info would've probably leaked from other people, no?

lean mango
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ye, I'd think so

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iirc it was just some random blog too that only had two posts, this and clancy

winged sapphire
# cloud lynx Fantano: 5/10, cringe

CLANCY ULTIMATE CHAPTER:
brad: 1/10 - no trenches needs more trenches where is my trenches they have to make the same album again and again like ubisoft where are my trenches i need them

lean mango
#

To be fair idk how vk got that clancy tracklist early either

cloud lynx
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lol

winged sapphire
#

and no one belived

cloud lynx
#

true

lean mango
#

Ye, but still

cloud lynx
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tbh

winged sapphire
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"wtf is jennas version"

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altguy

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do something

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say something

lean mango
#

yea, out of the fakes i've seen so far it's probably the only one i've seen so far that's not immediately 100% obviously fake w/ track titles they'd never use

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or a cover they'd never use

winged sapphire
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thats what people said to clancy

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thou

cloud lynx
lean mango
#

I'm still curious because someone said the flowers on this came from trench assets, does anyone know if that's true and where they come from?

winged sapphire
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where did u find it

lean mango
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someone posted on bluesky

cloud lynx
lean mango
#

yea, that struck me as odd too

winged sapphire
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i have a friend thats like

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supper known of fake leaks

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like she can tell

lean mango
#

oo

winged sapphire
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shes a leaker so

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dont wanna say name

lean mango
#

real question is did she call the trench cover/tracklist as being real?

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*clancy

winged sapphire
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we didint met in feb 😭

lean mango
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ah ok

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I'd be curious what she thinks

winged sapphire
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shes prob honk mimimimi

lean mango
#

I'm decently experienced with leaks and label promo too actually, used to run a small record label so I got to know a lot of the process of promotion and other background stuff

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and I can't really be 100% either way on this one

winged sapphire
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ex

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ah

lean mango
#

but I will say the most suspicious thing to me right now is the source

winged sapphire
#

but why aug

lean mango
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the fact that it was posted by someone random on bluesky and they traced it back to a random blog with no history of music content outside of TOP

winged sapphire
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can u send said blog

lean mango
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idk, I wondered about that, also the date's a Tuesday

winged sapphire
#

blogspot

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.com

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blogger moment

lean mango
#

So I have two theories here, one is it's a troll/fake like all the others, or two, it's a site put up specifically to leak this

winged sapphire
#

ok but

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how can we get

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confirmation

lean mango
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idk, probably just have to wait

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like w/ clancy it'll be proven or disproven soon enough i think

winged sapphire
#

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stray kettle
# winged sapphire

assuming the website is fake the person who made the site could’ve easily just made that in photoshop

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the alleged album cover isn’t really anything special- anyone could make it

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The website also posted the Clancy track list, albeit the day after it was properly announced. So not much of a precedent of them leaking.

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That being said, I would be SO down for this to be real. 11 track epilogue would go so hard.

lean mango
odd cargo
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realest fake

wary oak
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any news?

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Tomorrow is 7th

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If tomorrow nothing hapens , i die

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Cryng blood

slate jewel
#

tøp when given the perfect date to say Anything (they don't take the opportunity)

fleet pier
#

Wasn’t Fairly Local a surprise release? What if they aren’t saying anything or announcing when the music video will release for Paladin? Maybe it’ll just drop at some point out of nowhere.

rancid delta
#

that cover is almost certain to be fake, but i will admit its actually very pretty. me likey.

static sinew
#

i could see the announcement being today (thr 7th) and then the mv being early next week

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it most certainly will not be dropped during the weekend , that goes against industry standard

brave mantle
#

Nothing about this is really standard tho

grizzled zephyr
#

Really hoping for paladin to drop and announce clancy deluxe. For me it doesn't sound like the end I think for me the end of the storyline would sound like the start of heavydirtysoul so it's a loop

graceful hill
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its also not a single as far as we know, just a music video

grizzled zephyr
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Lowkey hoping the reason there hasn't been a mv announcement is because the video is an announcement itself for more

rancid gust
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Was gonna say I don’t think they’d announce the video, I think they’d just drop it

lean mango
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If the description itself spoils something that would be a reason to hold off on a premiere maybe

static sinew
#

oh that makes sense actually yea

karmic pumice
#

I noticed that the banner of the « adh.. » account on twitter is showing a red line

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I honestly didn’t give attention to this

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But

fair dirge
trail igloo
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Paladin video drops when that lavash comp ends?

pure timber
#

not to mention the track names are so.....plain

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dosent sound anything like they'd put

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also the album cover has a lot of noise artifacts, the ones you get from generative AI

winged sapphire
storm fable
static sinew
cloud lynx
pure timber
glacial fulcrum
#

Josh is single handedly keeping this theory alive

compact arrow
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I’ve said this a thousand but fuck it I’ll say it again

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The time period of mid to late 2019 til the released of SAI is a long time.

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Whether that is instrumentals produced or straight up songs/lyrics.

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Seeing how short SAI was

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And seeing how imo short Clancy was it wasn’t adding up.

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I was expecting at least 10 more minutes on this album (around 55-57 minutes) but if we look at the album length and cut out the craving and shorten paladin the album comes out to around 40ish minutes? Just doesn’t add up imo plus this album in terms of sounds is great but the marketing and the way it was pushed out about it being so lore heavy wasn’t very good.

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Sorry but 80% of this album is not lore based, focused or even hinted at.

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At least in Trench we had songs like levitate, morph, NATNS, bandito, and leave the city.

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We have what OC, and navigating?

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And maybe vignette?

glacial fulcrum
#

Well I'm not complaining since I love the album, but all that is just evidence to me that something more is coming :>

compact arrow
#

Don’t get it twisted

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I love the album

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But the way it was marketed and the way it was delivered (as of right now) was dog ass and some could argue misleading

warm crescent
#

IF YOU CANT SEE I AM CLANCY!!!!
(silence for 11 tracks)

compact arrow
#

I got to experience everything leading up to BF and so on (was about 4 months late to the vessel release :/ yes I’m an old fan haha) but this album is their weirdest one when it came to marketing believe it or not

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“Yeah we gonna be straight forward on this album”

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Guy said Clancy and fucked off

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Thanks Tyler 🚶

livid pine
#

“if you can’t see i am clancy” -> (~38 mins) -> “hello clancy”

compact arrow
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Like dawg what

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“I am trapped, stuck in a cycle”

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Got that penny loafer SQUEEK

livid pine
#

it wouldn’t change how much i love the album, but if that was meant to be the grand finale, it definitely would change how much i love the lore. i doubt one mv could solve that, especially because they’re a BAND and it’s about the music, not the visuals.

compact arrow
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Eh

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I love the album for what it is

livid pine
compact arrow
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But don’t market it being so lore centered and then not dabble in it.

livid pine
# compact arrow I love the album for what it is

no me too. but i feel like it’s an album of personal experiences and pushing through struggles. and it does that amazingly. that’s definitely partially what the lore is about, but not the entirety of it

compact arrow
#

“But routines and vignette could be lore” that’s the thing “could be” I’m holding them to their word. They said it would be straight forward. Even navigating doesn’t sound lore related at all and it got a mv.

livid pine
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YEAH EXACTLY they’re possibly lore in the same way certain songs off of blurryface might be

compact arrow
glacial fulcrum
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I just can't wait to find out what they're teasing

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If it isn't June 25th I might actually explode

cloud lynx
little mulch
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I find it interesting that only the first and "last" songs have lore references

lean mango
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Tbh if there was a double album or anything else additional, I wouldn't see it as part of Clancy

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I'd see it as a continuation but its own thing

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Might still listen together sometimes tho

pure timber
lean mango
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On my last listen I caught more lore-related stuff than I realized last time

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Hometown, Doubt, and The Judge stand out

pure timber
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Stressed out, fairly local, lane boy has bf directly speaking

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Hds got the bf death video

cloud lynx
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Clancy is much more centered on Clancy (obviously)

pure timber
cloud lynx
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The themes of the songs, lack of Blurryface direct presence (only some references in RiTN MV and PS)
It it not surprising that BF has... well, more BF cameos

static sinew
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sonically , bf is a LOT more lore than trench

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like EVERY bf song is about battling some insecurities

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which is the main concept of bf

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but trench has stuff like legend , smithereens , pet cheetah (?) which are very disconnected from the lore (pet cheetah has the cheetah gif dmaorg connection but thats very lose imo)

winged sapphire
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pet cheetah is lore

static sinew
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sai's entire sound is based in lore

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sai imo is probably the most cohesive album between the lore and the music

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clancy is the least

winged sapphire
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yet*

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RITN is def lore

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so is vignatte

static sinew
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oh absolutely

winged sapphire
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do u know what i think

static sinew
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midwest could be lore too , but in the more vague way like chlorine

winged sapphire
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track 9 was gonna be vignatte, but it got chanced to navigating

static sinew
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like chlorine is lore bc of the concept of ned , but its p disconnected from trench until sai tied it in

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vignette the song is def lore , but the mv doesnt seem to be

winged sapphire
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it original was gonna be probably

static sinew
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unless its about torchbearer coming to clancy in a vision LOL

winged sapphire
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but got chanced to navigating because josh

static sinew
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yeah i agree 100%

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like how the outside mv was totally originally planned for never take it

pure timber
cloud lynx
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i just realized yesterday that the lyrics could be lore-related

static sinew
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but as it is , the craving , lavish , backslide (i mean the concept of backsliding is lore but like the video and song isnt really) , at the risk , oldies - none of those are lore really

cloud lynx
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in a way they still tell a sort of story

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imo

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but yeah... there's not much direct lore

static sinew
# pure timber Really? Where was that said

it wasnt said , but the 4 teased singles for sai were shy away , choker , saturday , and nti. also nti is directly after saturday , just like how the mv is a direct sequel. and the lyrics "weaponize you and i" from nti fit so much better w the events than anything in the outside

static sinew
winged sapphire
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i think its more of a pov

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like pov of tylers life

static sinew
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okeyy but like thats more about personal music than LORE

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well ,,, not quite

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clancy is a character being portrayed by tyler

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irl tyler does not live in dema and cannot seize people

winged sapphire
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hes his alter

static sinew
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so clancys backstory and irl tylers are not the same

winged sapphire
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he has 2 faces

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blurryface and clancy

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and hes fairly local

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hes been arround

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he seen the streets

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your walking down

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good people now

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oh oh oho

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sorry

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refklhgefkeyhlrfd

winged sapphire
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RITN seems like Fairly local

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like serious fairly local vibes

static sinew
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yes , but thats irl

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within the lore , they are real people

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so within the lore , irl tyler doesnt exist

fallow violet
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who is this imaginary redditor that we havent even seen yet

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i cant find any mention of this on the subreddit

lean mango
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I can't either

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it sounds made up to me

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the specific phrasing was clearly meant to connect to him saying "does this sound like an end," it's too pointed to be likely imo

fallow violet
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also they didnt stop to meet people after the columbus show right like they just went straight to their cars lol

lean mango
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it sounds like they're saying he said exactly what they need him to say for them to try to refute people saying it's not the end

graceful hill
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I was so rooting for NTI as the single/music video

lean mango
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I love The Outside, I'm glad it got a video

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but I'd love NTI as a single too, wish we'd had both

graceful hill
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NTI is actually a strong song IMO

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Absolute banger

mellow stratus
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hello any paladin vid

winged sapphire
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no

glacial fulcrum
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If not I'll explode

raven lagoon
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Hello any 🤡

wraith gulch
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New billboard today in Warsaw. Which is where the first billboard at the start of the era was.

User is chokermv on twitter; they haven’t posted anything else about it

rain birch
fair dirge
glacial fulcrum
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Josh trolling arc

cloud lynx
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different design, it could still be an old one from the first roll out, but then it would be weird if that would only pop up recently

wraith gulch
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Apparently it was definitely today

cloud lynx
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seems likely

wraith gulch
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Lending more significance to June 7. Idk. At this point I don’t think we are getting Paladin but I guess they could just surprise drop it. Ugh.

cloud lynx
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they must be teasing smth else

olive plume
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could the billboards be part of the marketing for paladin? does that mean it’ll probably drop next week?

cloud lynx
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i could be wrong, but i think they would be more clear about what it is about?

olive plume
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but i don’t see how this could lead into paladin… are other billboards going to pop up??

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unless the billboards are for the deluxe album heeheegiggle

cloud lynx
olive plume
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yeah like we already know the album is out

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and i don’t believe they’ve ever marketed an album with a billboard like that after it came out?

wraith gulch
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It’s interesting there is no yellow in this billboard

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For reference here is the one from February in Warsaw

cloud lynx
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isn't the text in a sort of yellow?

wraith gulch
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It looks white to me

odd cargo
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y'all are schizos

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it looks light cause it's not made for crazy color accuracy

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it's just bright

shell kite
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joe, you need to use your minds eye

warm crescent