Double Album Confirmed

[rancid gust]

gotta wait for the mods to approve it tho

[empty jasper]

I hate to throw cold water on "aihgrtnsnd", but try typing it out: it's just simple keyboard mashing starting from a typical homerow keys.

For perspective, here are the first letter sequences of all their previous albums. These aren't nearly as easy to type out:

-Self-Titled: iftafmjoatatbi
-RAB: ghoscfgkalrtbc
-Vessel: hmhcsstfgtt
-Blurryface: hsrftltdpwmhng
-Trench: jlmmcsntncbpll
-SAI: gcstsnmfbnr

[lean mango]

I considered that, but idk if it adds up

thinking about it step by step:

we have ad first, which are theoretically typed with the same hand if it's a keymash, meaning starting on the left

that means s is skipped. Not impossible, but i think s being hit is more likely since it's between them

i is next, most likely with the right hand

hg is next, followed by rt. This means either the right hand came over from the i to hit the h and g, which is a bit of a weird unnatural rhythm for a keymash, or the left hand hit the hg and did the same, or the right hand crossed over the left there. Either way, not very natural

nsnd are pretty natural tho

it's possible it really is nothing

honestly my biggest evidence for it being nothing is that he deleted it, if it was meant to be evidence I'd think he'd keep it up

[rancid gust]

tbf tho he also deleted the welcome back post.

[lean mango]

which was that?

it's still up afaik

[rancid gust]

that was the one with the 13 commas

is it?

[lean mango]

if you mean the instagram one

ye

[rancid gust]

oh its iiiiinstagraammmm ok

I was looking on twitter for it ._.

if it really was nothing tho why would he say it like that lol

"You know I would be straight forward with you about everything"

no we absolutely for a fact don't know that lol

[lean mango]

good point lol

he'd probably say something to make it clear it genuinely was nothing if he didn't want us to theorize

he has to have known people would save it

[rancid gust]

mhmm

also

[lean mango]

maybe it was nothing and he just thought it'd be funny to troll a bit

[rancid gust]

it could be reverse psychology, where it actually is nothing

ye

too late now, its on the word document. Set in stone.

[lean mango]

yeye

[rancid delta]

Forget trying to post double album theories on the reddit, they aren't letting them now

[lean mango]

Huh? Like actually disallowing them?

That will be funny if it gets confirmed soon

[rancid delta]

they removed mine due to rule 2. apparently my post was the last straw for "repetitive posts", even though ive seen so many already

im salty

[glacial fulcrum]

That sucks nooo 😭

I just don't go on the Reddit anymore lolol

Great evidence!

[trail igloo]

I’m permanently banned haha, if I make a new account is banned in like 30 seconds

[static sinew]

they removed my art for "low effort spam" i dont even know why. i posted once and spent 400 hours on it on record

[pale harness]

400 hours is insane for a reddit post

[static sinew]

i mean i wasnt doing it for a reddit post specifically but i wanted to share

[trail igloo]

That’s fu***d

[glacial fulcrum]

Guys I might actually be cooked, 'Onbmrvtlnsoap' and 'aihgrtnsnd' showed up in my dream last night 😭😭

[cloud lynx]

double album confirmed????????? /j

[glacial fulcrum]

Loreee????? 😨⁉️

[cloud lynx]

new lore dropped???????????? /j

[warm crescent]

I wonder if a Side B/Disc 2 to Clancy drops they would do a unique title for the second side

Clancy (Deluxe) is kinda boring

it’ll probably be Ultimate Chapter

[glacial fulcrum]

Im growing on that title actually :3

It could also be Torchbearer

Or smth

[warm crescent]

it’ll definitely be a second disc for the clancy record, so it’ll have to be “Clancy: ?”

it would be cool if they did new cover art for the “Ultimate Chapter” edition

maybe one where josh is actually…. visible

if it was a more lore heavy record it’d be cool for it to use the letter artwork in the digital remains booklet

but that’s already been used for the HMV and Listening Event versions

[wraith gulch]

Minor detail but Ultimus in Latin means last, so it’s Last Chapter not Ultimate Chapter

[slate jewel]

final chapter 🔥

[warm crescent]

if it’s actually 11 tracks i need each one to be 5 mins long and the final song to be 10

even tho i love paladin, i wont forgive tyler for baiting me with a fake 6 minute song.

[glacial fulcrum]

I meannnnnnn id love that too but I think that's a lot of content to produce, especially with releasing Sai and Clancy on top😭

Who knows tho

:>

[warm crescent]

yeah ur right, im just a fiend for content.

and more lore.

not forgiving tyler for scrapping drag path… or devils eyes… whatever that song is actually called

[glacial fulcrum]

Yesss that's one I'm actually very intrigued by, seeing how it's much more directly connected to lore than the rest of clancy - if there are more songs pertaining directly to the story id expect to see that on the tracklist

[warm crescent]

that title is so cool too

“Drag Path (Devil’s Eyes)” exudes that gritty trench feeling

[glacial fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/levitate-tyler-joseph-twenty-one-pilots-trench-gif-22749127

[glacial fulcrum]

Totallyyyyyy

The imagery in the song really reminds me of Tyler getting dragged by Nico in both the music videos as well

[warm crescent]

i’m super curious how he got those lyrics to flow as a song

them being scratched out kinda feels like he couldn’t figure it out

which sucks. 😞

[olive plume]

we’re hoping it would have been a gritty song just based on the title and lyrics but watch it being some kind of piano ballad like truce

[warm crescent]

my first thought was it being a piano track tbh

but knowing this band it could be anything

[glacial fulcrum]

Themes of 'trying again next time' and stuff on Clancy

Here's some more that are much less direct but carry the same kind of ideas

Maybe this has nothing to do with a potential double album, but regardless the themes are absolutely there throughout the whole album

[lean mango]

Why's everyone on Reddit a bunch of doubters?

I'd expect some but it looks like the majority

And not just doubters, but firmly stubbornly against the idea of anything additional after the Paladin MV

[glacial fulcrum]

I don't know, to me it seems like people really don't wanna get their hopes up and be disappointed

[lean mango]

Maybe but that's a strong response if that's all it is

[glacial fulcrum]

To me though I've accepted the delulu and if we're wrong about the double album I'll be fine with what we have anyway

[glacial fulcrum]

True

[warm crescent]

probably for the best tbh 💀

[lean mango]

And it's not too hard to hope for something more without expecting it and being upset if it doesn't happen

[warm crescent]

unless the 6/25 stuff is just promotion for a twenty one pilots mcdonald’s collab

[lean mango]

Idk, I've done enough digging and piecing together the evidence that I'm actually 99.9% sure of the double album at this point

Would say 100% but I won't say that til actual confirmation comes

But I'll be genuinely surprised if it doesn't happen or it's not that

Someone brought up "claim cyan," since blue is the color of defeat I wonder if that's about Clancy embracing and accepting Nico as part of himself

[warm crescent]

those “”clancy”” letters are always at the back of my mind

[lean mango]

And the purple they've teased is a mix of red and blue which fits nicely with the idea of healing the separation between the two sides and forming one cohesive identity again

[warm crescent]

“Follow the Torches” “claim cyan” etc

whatever meurionpepadnsnshzbwj was

[lean mango]

Gonna test a theory when I get home

[glacial fulcrum]

I'm not sold that purple will be anything, but you never know 👀

[fair dirge]

Same

They just want to think that Tyler wants them to DM him

[olive plume]

i’m just confused how they think the clancy 25 puzzle could be teasing the paladin video when we already know it’s coming early june? the 25th is definitely not early june

and i hate the idea that it’s actually teasing something that will come in 2025 because why start hyping that Now and not later this year

when the band starts teasing stuff, it’s usually for things that happen in the coming weeks. but i guess we’ll find out more once paladin drops

[warm crescent]

yeah, teasing a deluxe a whole year prior makes no sense

or another record

[fallow violet]

it does make sense imo if they end the paladin strait mv on a cliffhanger and not include the conclusion. it makes sense they would announce when we would get the conclusion if its 2025

[warm crescent]

i mean i guess?

it’s also kinda dumb to be like “THIS IS THE ENDING OF THE STORY!!!” and then say “sike wait another year”

[fallow violet]

idk i kinda like it. makes the hype for the era

because if we end it now we have nothing to look forward to the rest of the era regarding lore

i kinda like the idea of a two parter for that reason

[warm crescent]

i’d be somewhat fine with it if they didn’t tease us out with the whole “upfront lore” stuff

[rancid gust]

also "reoccuring, keeps comin'around" in routines in the night

[glacial fulcrum]

Yes I missed that! Thx

[rancid gust]

bro they're angry you'd even insinuate that there might be more. heels absolutely dug in.

[cloud lynx]

But tbh, the band has teased smth, and even probably a double album (at least they didn't rejected it)

[glacial fulcrum]

Dug in... to the drag path??? 😨⁉️

[cloud lynx]

Like, we can't blame people for getting their hopes up

The band made it on purpose, they know what they're doing

[glacial fulcrum]

Fr

[lean mango]

People I talked to last night were completely convinced that 25 refers to the Paladin MV and the 6 isn't even a real clue

[cloud lynx]

25, famously known to be "early june"

/sarcasm, just in case

[glacial fulcrum]

Lmaoo

[rancid gust]

from yesterday

[lucid crow]

It's not actually on the album tho 🧐

[glacial fulcrum]

Honestly I'd just ignore Reddit lolol, people on there are always like this 😭

[glacial fulcrum]

👀

[rancid gust]

ye lol, just thought I'd point some out

[cloud lynx]

I already know what u are thinking rn

but no

imma stop u xd this is definitely a stretch

they probably just meant "The Craving" in general, is on the album

and indeed, it is, the Jenna's Version, which is still "The Craving"

[glacial fulcrum]

Mkay mkay, I'm not saying anything!

😈

[rancid gust]

personally, I think the 6 25 thing is purely the date. I still think 11 tracks, but counting both of the cravings is weird. I think that one might actually be a coincidence.

[glacial fulcrum]

Yeah, the 11 and 6/25 clues are very separate right now

that one craving single version is the only thing tying them together

[cloud lynx]

Nah this is stupid lol

I understand not wanting to get u hopes up, but they're literally distorting/denying the reality of things lmao

[lean mango]

I agree, but at the same time, bringing it up to 24 tracks for the 6th album (counting from Vessel as the band often does) would just be silly

[rancid gust]

True lol

My evidence post over there is popping off tho

260 upvotes rn

[glacial fulcrum]

Yeah I saw it lol :3 you did good!

[odd cargo]

bonus track album confirmed

[warm crescent]

i just wanna time travel to the 25th at this point

[olive plume]

anyone can edit wikipedia

a lot of those songs give off fake trench tracklist vibes too

too many references the fans would know and think is “clever” enough to disguise as actual tracks

[frosty jay]

Yeah I know they can just posting in here in case it inspires anything…..

[olive plume]

silver weighted sun was an old title for overcompensate. i’m not sure if tyler would reuse that

i want a double album so bad

[lean mango]

Def fake

Sadly

Idk why the other Craving would be on there either

[olive plume]

or in that place

if anything, i can see it tacked on the end like a “bonus track”

[lean mango]

Drag Path being the end too

[olive plume]

drag path doesn’t sound like a finale to me, going by the lyrics we saw of it

[rancid delta]

Neds flame sounds so fake

Some of those are cool though

Also why would we need an interlude after paladin, we already have a minutes worth of birds before the end

[olive plume]

the interlude is just a scuffle between nico and clancy and all we hear is like stomping and punches being thrown and screaming

[rancid delta]

More birds 🔥🔥🗣️

[frosty jay]

Yeah like I’m sure this is probably just a fan edit but it would be funny if they actually posted the tracklist on wiki knowing everyone would assume it was fake

[warm crescent]

looney tunes sound effects for 5 mins

and a tom and jerry scream

[glacial fulcrum]

No but an interlude would potentially fill in for the extra track to add up 25 if we really wanna discount craving single version

Idk could be a possibility

[lean mango]

And this tracklist has both

Smh

[rancid delta]

I'd think if there was one it would be towards the end rather than the start

Or the middle

[fallow violet]

god i saw all these and they pissed me off so bad LMAOOO

like the choice of words is just so stupid

“i guarantee” “it doesn’t exist” ok

like who are you again

[lean mango]

Yea, I took the bait 😿

I regret everything

[trail vigil]

This thread is like a whole separate channel at this point

So many messages

[glacial fulcrum]

Lmao yep

[cloud lynx]

he could def have reused a few ideas or lyrics for a different song, a bit like he has already done for Clancy, but a title? idk

[glacial fulcrum]

Lmfao the fake tracklist is back 😭😭

Someone's getting banned on Wikipedia

[rancid delta]

Still really hoping it's not just a deluxe version of clancy. That would make all currently physical copies pointless

[tall lodge]

Yeah

[glacial fulcrum]

How do you think they'll do it?

Someone mentioned the double/deluxe version could just be on streaming for a while

[rancid delta]

I want it to be a second album um just so I won't have to buy the first part all over again

[fallow violet]

i hope its like part 1 and part 2 basically like theyre separate copies

[rancid delta]

However they do it, I just want to be able to purchase it separately

[glacial fulcrum]

Yes yes

[fallow violet]

yeah, it's been done by artists and bands before so could totally work

[meager fjord]

that would still suck though because then you've gotta buy an entirely seperate vinyl/cd just for the part 2- idk feels like what TS did which felt like a money-grab imo

[rancid delta]

Was kinda upset when imagine dragons forced you to buy mercury act 1 all over again when Act 2 came out. Act 2 didn't have it's own cd (vinyl did weirdly)

[lean mango]

No money grab if it's new music

[rancid delta]

If we do get this double album, sure, make it like a double box set or something. But please for the love of God let us be able to buy it separate for those of us that already have it

[fallow violet]

that's absolutely not the same tbh, taylor still hasnt released that second part in physical copies, shes literally still selling the separate tracks on x different versions

[lean mango]

The Taylor Swift thing sucks because it's mostly the same on each one with a couple of different songs

[fallow violet]

yep

[meager fjord]

eh still idk man I'd be a little disappointed if I've gotta buy a second vinyl (I'll still buy it 💀)

[meager fjord]

yeah that's true... idk it just doesn't quite sit well with me

[fallow violet]

you would be buying more new songs though

it would basically be like youre buying another album

[meager fjord]

If it's a completely seperate album with no duplicates + different art and inserts I'd feel better about it

[glacial fulcrum]

I don't think they'd put all the original songs on a double version

[left kite]

I'd rather spend $40 on a whole new album than $50 on what I already have plus 1 or 2 songs. A double album would be way less of a cash grab from my pov

[fallow violet]

yeah well thats what i assume too

if its duplicate/deluxe version then I would also feel weird about it yeah

[meager fjord]

but if it's "hey spend another $40 on the album you just bought with a few extras" I'll be annoyed

[fallow violet]

yeah absolutely same

[sly hazel]

I wouldn't mind spending full price again if it was a full B side of the album

[fallow violet]

i would still buy it but i would criticize it for what it is tbh

[glacial fulcrum]

Being completely fr, I think there's more evidence that it will be a whole new 11 songs rather than just 1 or 2 extra for a deluxe version

[sly hazel]

I've seen a few bands before give discounts based on existing purchases of the original version

also seen people just release the deluxe digital only

[meager fjord]

if they made it a separate thing- separate cover, separate name, full 11 - 13 songs I'd be less bothered- my bank account will hate me but that's not new

[glacial fulcrum]

I mean no one's forcing you to buy it 👀

[meager fjord]

my love of the band is forcing me- I'll whine about it but ultimately I'll be happy 💀

[glacial fulcrum]

Lolol me too 😭

[sly hazel]

I can't really speak I am currently sat in the same room as like 18 copies of Clancy

[glacial fulcrum]

Not gonna be as much of an issue for you then huh

[fallow violet]

i was just having a conversation about the taylor swift variants yesterday and like. imagine if pilots did what her team is doing. i would go absolutely insane. like the pilots equivalent of taylor swifts business plan would be: releasing clancy as a double album but you would get the first part in 4 versions, each representing a character in the story that gets their own extra song! if you want all 4 extra tracks you gotta buy all 4 versions! and you cant even get the second part yet because we will milk versions of part 1 and only release both on one copy at the very end of the cycle! have fun!

[sly hazel]

Yeahhh there's scummy and then there's Taylor :D

[meager fjord]

oh good lord I think I'd keel over and die

[glacial fulcrum]

Taylor swift fans... I don't envy them lmao

[fallow violet]

like imo, one thing is releasing an album in 15 color variants and a whole another is separating tracks in different versions. just straight up nasty

[lean mango]

Gotta consider too that with Clancy ending on a cliffhanger, if they did this it would make all normal copies feel incomplete

[glacial fulcrum]

Yeah top has always been much fairer in their interactions with the fanbase

We don't talk about rab

[fallow violet]

the worst part is most of them are eating it up. i've seen one of my friends who said shes gonna wait till this madness is over to get a copy of both 😭

[glacial fulcrum]

(But that was actually out of their control)

[meager fjord]

literally- the vinyl variants are more sus than scammy- but forcing you to collect a ton of different repetitive versions just to have a physical copy of all the songs would be a shitty move

[rancid delta]

i cant see the boys doing that

[glacial fulcrum]

I agree

[fallow violet]

yeah like vinyl variants are just in general bad for the industry and environment but yeah you arent being forced to buy them because at the end of the day its all the same product and we all own the same songs! it's purely just about collecting. but if you think about it from the music consumption angle like I wanna have all my fave songs on a physical copy then you are fr just being forced to buy all those variants if the songs are split up

[fallow violet]

yeah me neither. but i just generally worry about how this is gonna become the norm in the coming years in the industry

it worked for taylor swift you just know record labels are taking notes

[rancid delta]

plus if they did rerelease clancy with a deluxe version then why make like over 20 vinyl variants for an incomplete album

[glacial fulcrum]

Mhm mhm

[lean mango]

What's wrong with color variants? I've heard complaints but I don't really see any problem except for the people who want to buy everything

[meager fjord]

right- and just generally why bother shipping all the merch yet

[lean mango]

For me who only wants one copy, it's great, I have lots of options

[meager fjord]

vinyls in general aren't really the best environmentally- and it sets a standard of overconsumption that rubs a lot of people the wrong way. Those are the main complaints I've heard

[glacial fulcrum]

Okay okay hear me out - the new b-side/double/deluxe album comes out, and the cover is the boys standing together like on the Clancy cover, but this time from the back and we see them looking out at Dema on fire

[rancid delta]

would rub me the wrong way for all these variants for an incomplete version of said project. if it was planned then why not just wait for the full thing to do all those variants

[lean mango]

I would not be surprised if the pic we have of dema on fire is used for that cover

[fallow violet]

the production of XX vinyl variants is just bad for the enviroment and for the industry, enviromentally you probably know, and in the industry, it causes smaller artists not getting their music pressed and therefore not being able to sell their music, because the factories are busy pressing XXXXX versions of the biggest artists' vinyls

[rancid delta]

inverted colors too maybe

[lean mango]

This is one reason (of many) I think a full 2nd album is a lot more likely

[rancid delta]

id love to see a purple album

[lean mango]

Ye, inverted or different

[glacial fulcrum]

You really want purple huh :>

lol

[rancid delta]

i like ourple

[glacial fulcrum]

Would be cool!

[rancid delta]

red and blue makes purple

[fallow violet]

this is a general problem in the music industry right now so it's not worth dumping on just one big artist for this, but it is seriously a problem

[rancid delta]

just makes sense

[glacial fulcrum]

(I kinda am warming up to the orange tho )

[rancid delta]

or even just a black and white

[glacial fulcrum]

Emo pilots? Omg pleaseee

[sly hazel]

I didn't necessarily mind the more limited variants they did of only 300 or 3000 sales in certain regions
I do admit it's starting to get a little crazy with how many different forms there are though

[rancid delta]

green day went even more crazy with saviors earlier this year, i think they had over 30 different variants

madness

[sly hazel]

Oh yeah I've been seeing 30-50 variants in some cases, it's definitely just over the top for the sake of FOMO forcing more sales

I don't mind the smaller scale batches because in time those become rare or are collectors pieces and don't really limit other artists all that much

[rancid delta]

10 is great. 20 is a lot but still good enough if they look cool. 30 is when it gets ridiculous.

[glacial fulcrum]

How many does top have of Clancy atm?

[rancid delta]

i think 20ish

somewhere around there

and a lot of them fit the color scheme so its fine by me

[sly hazel]

It's around 20 or so with some being limited to certain regions (US vs UK mainly)

[rancid delta]

its questionable but acceptable

would this second album also have that many though is what im wondering

if we were to get it this month, i doubt well see physical copies for a little while, chances are it would be digital exclusive for at least a month.

[fallow violet]

yeah thats why i dont see it being this month i genuinely think the 25 means 2025😭

[sly hazel]

there's no way they tease something that far out imo

[rancid delta]

if they were already in printing someone probably wouldve leaked it by now

[fallow violet]

would you rather when paladin mv ends on a cliffhanger they just not let us know at all when it finishes

[left kite]

I would absolutely hate this

[lean mango]

Idk why more people aren't considering August

[rancid delta]

in 2025 they also got BF 10th anniversary too though

they probably would wanna focus on that

[sly hazel]

I think the 25th will be the start of the second roll out

[rancid delta]

BF was HUGE

[lean mango]

If it releases fully in June then there's still the promotional and tour gap

[olive plume]

the tracklist and album cover of clancy didn’t get leaked until the day before the announcement (or around that) so i doubt if they’re releasing something on the 25th that it’ll get leaked already

[lean mango]

And it brings all of the issues of releasing so soon after Clancy

[olive plume]

numbers guy needs to reactivate

[sly hazel]

you guys gotta remember we didn't really get any leaks on the album until like 4-6 weeks away from release
If the 25th turns out to be the announcement of part 2, then we might not get full details until that week or after

[rancid delta]

if they are to release something it would kinda have to be sooner rather than later. too much is happening later.

[fallow violet]

i dont see how that would be a priority, im sure they will celebrate that but probably similar way they did with vessel

[rancid delta]

blurryface was also so much more massive than vessel though remember

has their biggest hits

[sly hazel]

June 25th being the day that the blurryface era ended and that suddenly coinciding with the teases we've got so far just makes too much sense for it to not be an announcement

[rancid delta]

with how much they already did for vessel im certain fbr is gonna wanna go all out with blurryface

[sly hazel]

considering it's been nine years

[cloud lynx]

just the fact that it will be the "Final Chapter"
chapter is the keyword here

[fallow violet]

idk i just hate the idea of the second part being this year because of the tour setlist, too many new songs at once

[rancid delta]

if not an album in itself, at the very least an announcement of some kind

maybe first single drop, and album a month or two later? when does the tour start again?

[sly hazel]

Release part 1 on the 9th anniversary of BF release (until the delay)
Announce part 2 on the anniversary of BF ending

[lean mango]

If they have no opener I think it would be fine

Sadly some would need to be skipped but some always are

[rancid delta]

we did have a lot of teases for 2/29

this feels similar to that

[glacial fulcrum]

It's either an 11 song album or something else unrelated to new music, that's my guess - what do you think is significant about the word 'chapter' though? :0

[cloud lynx]

music would def make more sense

accompanied by smth else, possibly
maybe later

[rancid delta]

this is a band after all

[glacial fulcrum]

Right like they're a band?

[rancid delta]

what are bands known for? music.

[fallow violet]

i was fully on the 25th of june idea until the digital remains puzzle didnt showcase the 6 antlers. they didnt have them in the puzzle so they might be irrelevant

[glacial fulcrum]

Hmmmm

[sly hazel]

I think there's too much pointing at June 25th for it to not be relevant

[glacial fulcrum]

The thing is about June 2025 is that it's right in the middle of their tour

[sly hazel]

It fits the gaps between album release and PS MV
Its the anniversary of BF era ending
And it's the day that Simone arrived in NY?

[cloud lynx]

yeah no they wouldn't tease it that early tbh
at least not that way

[glacial fulcrum]

And also, if this is the final album - why split the two parts over a whole year?

[fallow violet]

its actually right after the tour finishes as far as we know right now

[lean mango]

My impression of the Digital Remains thing is, I don't think it's impossible that some part of it was only meant to be seen in person

[fallow violet]

im sure they will do a second leg

[glacial fulcrum]

Yeah it's too perfect 😭 - it's also the 9th anniversary of blurry ending

[lean mango]

They know people saw the antlers and gave us separate teasers of 6/25

[fallow violet]

but thats all the more reason why it would make sense to tour one part first and another part second

[rancid delta]

6.25 miles

[glacial fulcrum]

Trueeee tbf...

[cloud lynx]

in a way, could make sense to tour the first part then the second part...
but the first part feels kinda "empty" for now, like it doesn't feel fully like its own full-length album/era, a piece is missing
(i'm not saying it is empty, it is not, but it doesn't feel completed, full)

[glacial fulcrum]

Yeah you have a point

[rancid delta]

also "hello clancy" being at 6:25 in paladin

[fallow violet]

yeah i know about this but I trust the official puzzle more.....

[rancid delta]

they are clearly alluding to 6/25

[fallow violet]

i think paladin mv will give us a Lot

[glacial fulcrum]

22 days until we find out for real..

[glacial fulcrum]

I agree

[rancid delta]

i doubt they would be tesasing this for something a year in advance

a few months maybe. not a year.

[fallow violet]

possibly sooner even they might just tell us right after paladin mv

[glacial fulcrum]

Yeah like, a year before trench was literally the beginning of the hiatus

[sly hazel]

I think if PS MV is on the 7th, that just gives more warrant to the 25th theory

[rancid delta]

true, paladin could just straight up say to be continued at the end

[cloud lynx]

still would be weird yeah

[glacial fulcrum]

Nothing happened till a few months before

[glacial fulcrum]

True true

[fallow violet]

yeah it is a while but Im once again asking, if paladin mv ends on a cliffhanger, what do you want them to do ? not tell us when we should expect the continuation? and if they set it for 2025 they would have to tell us right now

[glacial fulcrum]

Yeah, especially with Simone weil's journey

[cloud lynx]

Yeah, Paladin will end on a teaser/cliffhanger

I'm calling it

It's a band, they are teasing a Final Chapter
like...

[trail vigil]

It just feels like what they'd do

[mental granite]

My worry is that it’ll be a “to be continued” with no timeline after 💀

[sly hazel]

I mean that's what happened with the lore before

[trail vigil]

They wouldn't do that to us

[rancid delta]

the 9th is halfway between 5/24 and 6/25

6/9

[sly hazel]

we just got huge gaps between videos being released and it was crazy

[rancid delta]

69

[sly hazel]

Eh that doesn't mean much

[glacial fulcrum]

Yeahhh true :c

[rancid delta]

would be hilarious

[glacial fulcrum]

But tbf

[rancid delta]

sunday on fire

[fallow violet]

yeah but this is kinda different they've never done something like a two parter of albums before so it's hard to tell based on the past

[rancid delta]

domingo en fuego

[glacial fulcrum]

That was before we got to the supposed 'final' album in the story

[rancid delta]

in a era based around fire with very little fire so far

makes sense in my head

[sly hazel]

I mean sure but they could easily just leave us hanging
That's what they did with the album, and again with the livestream

[glacial fulcrum]

That's the thing I'm most sus of

[sly hazel]

they're just teasing something we just don't know what and that's exactly what they've always done

[fallow violet]

the placeholder is tyler sitting on the edge of a cliff 🤡

[sly hazel]

I am fully expecting the PS MV to end with no future timeline in mind

[cloud lynx]

i mean, for that one, i think we know it will come eventually

with PS most probably

[rancid delta]

almost certainly

[cloud lynx]

we will have some fire there

[fallow violet]

yeah you are right but for our sake I hope they dont 😭

[cloud lynx]

the images from the Digital Remains for example

[rancid delta]

paladin is the only thing from this era we dont have, minus the tour

[sly hazel]

I think PS is going to end with Dema in flames, Tyler and Nico standing at the top of a tower, Nico will say his lines and it will end

[fallow violet]

same

[cloud lynx]

nah i'm sure they will tease us like they did recently
in cryptic ways

[sly hazel]

I think then on the 25th is when new announcements are going to start, like the roll out of a completely different album

[rancid delta]

imagine it ends and we get another arg to solve for the rest of the month

[fallow violet]

I literally do not see how they can make it suddenly into a short mute movie after that outro, that just feels wrong

[rancid delta]

like another code or something

weird how we didnt get one this era

[glacial fulcrum]

Maybe it's not a release date, but an announcement yeah

[sly hazel]

I'm also ngl I think there's more hidden in the digital remains thing

stuff that we haven't found yet

[fallow violet]

choose your own adventure

[glacial fulcrum]

Frrrrrr like you can't end an album without music

I mean

I guess they just did lmao

But idk

[cloud lynx]

i mean you could (they kinda did it?) but like

it would make more sense to have at least a music follow-up

😭

my brain

https://tenor.com/view/smart-hangover-alan-genius-zach-galifianakis-gif-5568438

[fallow violet]

😭 I guess they can do anything but it doesnt seem like the intention of paladin was to be the ending with tylers dOes tHis sOund lIKE thE eND and "what the album teases"

[sly hazel]

I don't think Tyler
mr "I wanna put a nice little bow on the story to end it off"
would end the story outside of music

[rancid delta]

unless the mv is like 30 minutes long i refuse to believe they can properly wrap up EVERYTHING with one more music video

[glacial fulcrum]

Especially with really thematically sound and conclusive ending tracks like goner and leave the city

And redecorate (I adore redecorate)

[glacial fulcrum]

There's too many loose ends

[olive plume]

if they really don’t have anything more planned, i bet tyler’s sweating reading through all this

[fallow violet]

i went back to that bbc radio 1 interview and he literally said "that's why i'm excited about this record and wha- and how it ends and what it kind of teases as well" not to overanalyze but he literally did stutter at the "and what" because his brain probably just straight up wanted to say im excited about what it teases

[glacial fulcrum]

Scrambling to finish 11 tracks before June 25th

Lmao

[rancid delta]

if this were true why do they keep teasing us then

[fallow violet]

consequences of his actions 🔥

[olive plume]

he’s so excited to share this story with us 😭😭

[rancid delta]

or at least not denying it

[fallow violet]

nah honestly i wont blame him or anyone if nothing happens ill happily blame myself for the delusions

[lean mango]

late af i guess but if they were planning this for 2025, i think they would've done a lot of things differently

[glacial fulcrum]

Lollllll true

[rancid delta]

tyler shot down that fake clancy reviewer real quick

[cloud lynx]

but "mimimimi" when we talk about double album
or worse, cryptic teasing

[lean mango]

they probably would not have said clancy would end the storyline, or they would've cleared it up as soon as they were sure

[rancid delta]

crickets here. the digital remains thing. and josh's run.

[glacial fulcrum]

When was this??? :0

[glacial fulcrum]

Ohhhhh I see I see

[lean mango]

and then rather than being cryptic about 25, they would've just come out and said "the ending will come next year after the tour" or something like that

[rancid delta]

some guy on reddit posted a review and tyler basically said "fake, we put something in paladin you definitely wouldve mentioned" and it was within a couple hours of it being up he called it out

[glacial fulcrum]

Hahahaha omg

Bros a regular of his own subreddit

[fallow violet]

like in their defense if there is more and they were selling this part of the album as end of the storyline and planned this whole cliffhanger situation to create hype and make us theorize more and more, then like they kinda did have to lie about it to us

[lean mango]

otherwise they open it up to way too much potential misunderstanding for no real benefit, because what good does it do us if we're told to expect the end with this album and solve a bunch of cryptic puzzles only to find out we just have to wait another year?

[glacial fulcrum]

And they did a damn good job of it too

[rancid delta]

wasnt even the TOP reddit either, it was another sub

[lean mango]

if that was the intent then it's building hype out of dishonesty which really doesn't feel like something they'd do

[glacial fulcrum]

Lmaooo

[rancid delta]

some music reviewing one

[lean mango]

and in terms of actual stuff we have, there's basically nothing

[olive plume]

also. we have this

[rancid delta]

he certainly knows whats going on

[lean mango]

the puzzles are all just vague hints with nothing concrete yet

[fallow violet]

fooled me like 3 times now i was mentally preparing myself for this to end only for them to be like "actually just kidding". and im kinda grateful because i dont want this to end so soon in the era 😭

[glacial fulcrum]

This is crazy

[rancid delta]

this is perfect

[glacial fulcrum]

Like

[lean mango]

no new story or lore, nothing worth all this theorizing unless there will be a payoff afterwards

[glacial fulcrum]

Your silence speaks volumes Tyler!

[lean mango]

and a better payoff than just simply being told to wait a year

[sly hazel]

I'm still giving warrant to a Deluxe version of Clancy with 25 tracks

[glacial fulcrum]

I knowwwwww sameeeee 😭😭

Fooled you once, it's been 25 times

[rancid delta]

i see another sai length type album. maybe even shorter. it just needs to be at least 25 minutes long to be considered as such, an EP is shorter than 25 minutes

[cloud lynx]

tbh it was sus from the moment the tracklist leaked, and a lot of people were already sus of it

[olive plume]

not related but the tweet right before that one still sends me through the roof

[cloud lynx]

like what, Paladin Strait??? as the ending???
"only" 13 songs? (not that it's bad, just smelled fishy)

[olive plume]

“spanking this song raw”

[sly hazel]

25 YOU SAY?!???!?!!

[rancid delta]

lmao

[fallow violet]

I KNOWW RIGHT I totally was too!! but didnt wanna speculate too much

[rancid delta]

yes though

[sly hazel]

[glacial fulcrum]

It's uh

Just a theory

[lean mango]

well, 11 tracks would be exactly that :)

[rancid delta]

such a shame people didnt like sai

i liked it. i still do.

its incomparable to clancy or trench but its not BAD

[lean mango]

sometimes I wonder if the sai dislike is less than people feel like it is

I've definitely heard some hate for it or even mild dislike

[rancid delta]

sai doesnt deserve the same rep as father of all. nowhere close to it.

[lean mango]

but I feel like it's also just as common around here to hear that people really like it and are disappointed about its reception

[mental granite]

yeaaa I’d really appreciate a “truce” like song as an epilogue or something

[olive plume]

i enjoyed father of all… 🫣 and also love SAI

[glacial fulcrum]

Yeah I remember loving sai when it came out

[glacial fulcrum]

Okay... father of all is across the line for me but you do you lolollll

[rancid delta]

father of all was 26 minutes long, hence why people thought they only made it to get out of their contract finally. 26 minute album lmao

[glacial fulcrum]

Yeah

[olive plume]

SAI is up there with paramore’s after laughter when it comes to sad lyrics to upbeat music

[olive plume]

i never said it was good!!!! i just thought it was entertaining 🫣🫣

[fallow violet]

sai and the entire era was so special and i keep saying it but people who hated it are gonna experience a huge past version of fomo in the future imo

[rancid delta]

it was fun at least

[cloud lynx]

i kinda avoided half of the album since launch, but like, it's still not bad, i can still vibe to Formidable or Bounce Man for example, although it's not my cup of tea
and also SAI has some of the best songs they've ever made (Shy Away, Redecorate, No Chances)

[glacial fulcrum]

Nahhhh that's very based :>

[fallow violet]

bet some that came back are already regretting that they missed out

[sly hazel]

SAI era was better than the album itself imo

[lean mango]

what's father of all?

[rancid delta]

whether the haters like it or not it will always be considered a part of the story

[olive plume]

oh god all those theories about “the real album” and that fake album art that had them in like renaissance paintings. that would have been a banger if it was real

[rancid delta]

cant have clancy without SAI

[glacial fulcrum]

I 100% agree, shy away is sooooo underrated and no chances and redecorate have to be some of my favourite new tops songs

[olive plume]

father of all motherfuckers. green day album

[lean mango]

ahh

[sly hazel]

I think the whole SAI era was some of the best lore, and I think that's whats still got me so excited and anticipating more music now, because the lore this era so far has lacked so much compared to then

[glacial fulcrum]

Haha I think the era was sooooo good, for a pandemic album though sai fulfilled its role pretty well

[cloud lynx]

Shy Away is such a good song wtf

[rancid delta]

tha band DID actually make some songs for it. they never finished it but the ones they did do were sick!!

[sly hazel]

Live Shy Away > album Shy Away

[glacial fulcrum]

I knowwwjeusisiisis it's probably still my fave from sai ever since it first released as a single

[olive plume]

i’m gonna have to do a deep dive later

[glacial fulcrum]

I agree but I still love both

[sly hazel]

Exactly, I got a craving for Tylers screams

[cloud lynx]

omg yayyyyy :))

[fallow violet]

yeah ive seen some people saying after the i am clancy video stuff like "omg thats so funny they just completely disregarded sai and said this one doesnt count and theyre going back to trench!" or that they are "retrospetively" explaining sai away and "going back after sai flopped" and it pissed me off so much because thats absolutely not what happened😭 and we can absolutely hear it on this album that they took even some sounds and vibes from sai into the clancy album and they didnt just make trench 2.0

[olive plume]

green day also staged their own robbery so they could have a reason to scrap an album and start working on american idiot

[glacial fulcrum]

The fakers actually made like 5 songs for it, I actually adore them still - would've been such a peak album if it was real

[olive plume]

i feel like i definitely heard at least one of the songs and i wept like we could’ve had it alllll

[lean mango]

very curious to know more lol

[sly hazel]

I love some of the synthy boppy sounds they've brought in to this album
And I can imagine Paul and Tyler just vibing out in their studios making some funky stuff

[glacial fulcrum]

Oooooh and the my chemical romance cover in some versions, mmmm so good

[cloud lynx]

Navigating literally makes me think of Shy Away

For certain elements

[glacial fulcrum]

100%

[glacial fulcrum]

You can search for Magnum Opus of the Inglorious Kind, the band that made it has the videos on YouTube still up and I'd def recommend them, very interesting :>

[olive plume]

badass name

[rancid delta]

cant be an edgelord all the time, let the boys make some happy sounding music if they want

[glacial fulcrum]

Ikrrr

[rancid delta]

so much doom and gloom

[rancid delta]

dm'd you a playlist

[cloud lynx]

oh yeah this is so particular, it's like the signature sound of this album

the synth vibes

i like it

[glacial fulcrum]

I especially like how they combined the dirty rock bass with the synths

[rancid delta]

midwest indigo sounds like a sai song

[cloud lynx]

With Trench level of production
And Paul Meany's influence

[glacial fulcrum]

Wait totallyyyyy

[rancid delta]

if people love that but hate sai you probably never even heard sai and just went with the hate bandwagon

[sly hazel]

This whole album feels like SAI and Trench had a baby and Paul Meany babysat it for a month

[olive plume]

i always wondered if SAI would have gotten criticism if the tone of the album matched the lyrics, or if people would have said it was too melodramatic

[glacial fulcrum]

Hahahahhdjdjddo

Real

[cloud lynx]

Tbh we can still admit that Clancy is way better produced than SAI, and even Trench at times

[glacial fulcrum]

Hmmmmmm I wouldn't say better, they each have their own unique style

[cloud lynx]

🥲

[cloud lynx]

perhaps

maybe it's just my perception or music taste

[fallow violet]

one of my favourite parts of the whole album is the ethereal high pitched backing vocals during snap backs basically spoken word chorus. just so good

[lean mango]

damn, this is so cool

100% the kind of thing i'd do

[sly hazel]

my favourite part is
"match my outfit to a knife AAAAAAaaaaaAAaaAAaAaaaaAAAAAAAAAAA"

[glacial fulcrum]

I like how this is hardly a forum anymore and just a separate channel 😭

[lean mango]

I've considered doing something like that ngl

it really is lol

[glacial fulcrum]

Yeahh !

[cloud lynx]

ahem ahem yeah uh double album cough cough

[olive plume]

gonna be a sad day when we won’t need this anymore (because we would have gotten the double album )

[glacial fulcrum]

Bittersweet day

[cloud lynx]

genuinely sad

:(

i like this little community

[glacial fulcrum]

Well we have at least 22 days

So

:3

[rancid delta]

my only complaint about clancy is that its a bit all over the place. trench had moments of switch ups, but it felt so much more consistent. though i do think ssome of the clancy songs are better overall

[fallow violet]

also anyone else is dumb as fuck like me and has only recently found out that on routines it's actually "I'll show you why I..... walk the layout.." and not "I'll show you why-y" .. like the "why I" is actually so clever i'm just dumb

[glacial fulcrum]

Mmmmm true that, it reminds me of blurryface in that way

[cloud lynx]

This album is clever

[olive plume]

no you’re good because i realized this recently too

[cloud lynx]

It's rly mature, like a fine wine

it had time to mature, they took their time

[glacial fulcrum]

Does anyone else think that the 120bpm section at the start of overcompensate is suspicious? Like, is it just gonna stop and not come back??

Could be copium though just because I love that part 😭

[cloud lynx]

i'm sad it didn't become its own song

or at least i'm sad that the beat switched that much 🥲

[fallow violet]

well what if

[rancid delta]

overcompensate feels very out of place after repeated listens

banger song

but why is it here

[glacial fulcrum]

Booble albun?

👽

[rancid delta]

maybe well get more like it in this hypothetical second half

[fallow violet]

i mean the beat switch is being referenced to the whole 25 thing

[glacial fulcrum]

It's when Clancy 'came alive'

[rancid delta]

after the intro yeah

[sly hazel]

I keep saying it but I think having the audio from I Am Clancy as an intro and fade it into Overcompensate at the end like the video would be so good

[glacial fulcrum]

Haha yesssss

Can you imagine that's like how the live show starts or smth

That would be sick

[cloud lynx]

plz

i need

i need that stuff

an entire song like that

[fallow violet]

guys the whole OC intro is so good live i was at the berlin show and it altered my brain chemistry its gonna go insane

[glacial fulcrum]

Guys if they don't release a double album can we agree we're pulling a green day and making a fake one except we'll actually make the tracks and make it a banger

[fallow violet]

maybe OC feels out of place a bit because its really well structured as a great live show intro

[cloud lynx]

it's a nice intro

[glacial fulcrum]

I think they mentioned they knew it would be the first song live somewhere

Idk tho

[fallow violet]

LMAO im in

[fallow violet]

oh yeah i mean at this point its like their thing that they do every opening album song with the live show in mind in particular

[glacial fulcrum]

Yessss :>

[fallow violet]

tyler said its gonna be the opening song for the upcoming years

[glacial fulcrum]

It reminds me a lot of heavydirtysoul in some ways

[cloud lynx]

the intro

definitely was inspired by HDS

lol

[sly hazel]

I'm relistening to the single OC and it's so much better man

[fallow violet]

which once again sus even tho 2 years are still years but the way he said it is a bit sus

[glacial fulcrum]

Intro of hds makes me ascend lmaooo

My dream to see it live

[cloud lynx]

they could still tour again after that tour

[glacial fulcrum]

Is that the 'edit' one?

:0

[sly hazel]

yeah I think it just fits the album pacing better imo

as it currently stands atleast

[glacial fulcrum]

I mean if we're getting a 'pt 2' or sorts it would make sense that the beginning stays the same

[glacial fulcrum]

Mhm mhm

I think the extended version works best live

But I really enjoy it on the album actually

Ohhhh haha

[fallow violet]

ohh i dont see that i bet they will make a separate openers for every new era

[cloud lynx]

yeah

exactly

you're right lol

[cloud lynx]

i'm still standing by this though

they could make another tour in 2025-2026

[fallow violet]

oh yeah for sure

[glacial fulcrum]

I'm excited to see what top cook up after the trench storyline concludes

[fallow violet]

like they were gonna do that for bandito tour in 2020

[cloud lynx]

imagine

also, imagine Morph MV instead of The Outside

[glacial fulcrum]

Omfggggggg

I'd kill to see a music vid for morph

[cloud lynx]

Definitely was the plan

[fallow violet]

kinda insane to think about what couldve been

[cloud lynx]

they're definitely taking their revenge this time loool

Clancy could be what the Trench era should've been

[glacial fulcrum]

So far, I'm really enjoying the crypticness but I just really hope it pays off

Tyler if you're reading this dont say anything if we're getting a double album

Confirmed

I solved it guys

[shell kite]

*10 min later*

confirms/denies it

[glacial fulcrum]

😨

[real field]

Tyler if you're reading this and you guys do have a double album planned, don't actually ever release the other album that would be a super funny troll

[teal compass]

Tyler if you don’t have a double album planned tell us you did but canceled it because we all figured out too early because that would also be funny

[warm crescent]

Tyler if you’re reading this… how’s it going bud

[glacial fulcrum]

Helo id me Tyler twenty five pilot there will be Clancy quintuple album confimed

[tall lodge]

Real?!?!?!

[teal compass]

tyler if youre reading this, lmao nerd go touch grass

[unreal moth]

hi, can you please resume all you know about the double album?

[teal notch]

tyler when he confirms theres no double album

[lean mango]

LMAO

WTF

that can't possibly be real

[static sinew]

its not

[teal notch]

its not LMAOO

[rancid gust]

bro

I missed something

in my evidence

._.

Apparantly in the clancy letter 24 02MOON 09, where he is talking about creating an inferno, the doubled up letters spell "MERUOIENPEP"

which when reversed and spaces are added

and translated from latin to english

says

which is so cool

and I wish I had it in my post because it lines up with the babylon burning down prophesy and the dema burning image.

[rain birch]

because they wanna have a separate tour for the two parts album (if that happens)

[rancid gust]

bruh I already spent like 400 dollars on tour tickets ;-; I want to go to two but my wallet is saying nah rn

[static sinew]

i think itll be the first tour for this album and then tour 2 as a victory lap for dema as a whole after the lore is over

like melanie martinez trilogy tour

[rancid gust]

Tyler* is a dad with 3 kids tho too so Idk

[static sinew]

yes but a second tour is basically confirmed w tyler saying theyre gonna tour "the next few years"

he gotta get that cash to pay for 3 college tuitions now

[rancid gust]

did they?

did he*?

[static sinew]

yea in a recent interview

[rancid gust]

can you toss me a link?

[static sinew]

uhh its the recent interview ww bbc radio 1

i cant get a link rn bc i watched it on twitter which is blocked for me now

[rancid gust]

gotcha

"this episode is not currently available" ;-;

[sullen gale]

Someone might have said this before or I might just be silly
but I just brought the Clancy CD today and no way did they need those extra days to finish the music videos?
The CD lyric book has photos from all the music videos in them
Idk how CDs are made but you'd think that they would have made all the CDs way before the album was released lol
Which means they would have finished filming all the videos ages ago for them to be in the little lyric book?
Idk but it feels sus to me
I'm a big double album believer 😆

[rain birch]

its easier to edit a photo for lyric book than edit mv?

[sullen gale]

I guess so 😆
It just felt weird to see
Didn't think they'd make a lyric book full of photos from half finished music videos just incase they changed their minds about a video or something like that

[fallow violet]

i don't think they pushed paladin Because it hasn't finished editing. i think they were always gonna premiere it later because they wanted us to sit with the audio first and go absolutely insane. if it wasn't finished editing on the 24th it's not because they were gonna release it on release date but because they still had time left since they always planned to release it later. that's how i interpret what tyler said on the stream.

[glacial fulcrum]

It might be quite hard to reproduce this result, as the translation is kinda unreliable

[rancid gust]

idk, thats what google translate gave me

[glacial fulcrum]

Mhm mhm, but tbf it is google translate

[rancid gust]

true but like

[glacial fulcrum]

I'll look into it because it is very interesting though

[rancid gust]

what else could it be? We've gotten the message stay alive from the double letters as well

[glacial fulcrum]

It did give us the date for I believe next semester?

I can't remember

[rancid gust]

Idk about that one if it did

I just know that we've gotten messages from that before

so like

why would they do the exact same thing for no reason

it does line up pretty well too

[glacial fulcrum]

Mhm

I'm only sus of it because it doesn't really seem like the way you'd write it in Latin

If you put it in the reverse way you get this result

[rancid gust]

I just did that exact same thing lol

but tbf there are different ways to phrase the same statement

I don't want to burn, I would rather not be on fire, I wish not to spontaneously combust

[glacial fulcrum]

Yeah definitely

[rancid gust]

I used to know a guy who spoke ancient greek and latin

wish I had his contact info :/

[glacial fulcrum]

Yeah I used to know quite a bit in high school 😭

But I mostly forgor 😔

So supposedly according to google apep means 'bee' and urem means 'fire', but when I check other sites nothing comes up for either of those words individually. Also, neio seems to line up closer with 'I don't go' than 'I don't want to'

But yknow

[rancid gust]

doesn't help that its a dead language

I was gonna ask chat gpt, but its having a "major outage" right now

[glacial fulcrum]

lol

[rancid gust]

"what is the best translation for 'apep neio urem' from latin to english"

is chat gpt working for you rn?

[glacial fulcrum]

Lemme check

It doesn't work for me

[rancid gust]

oof I was hoping it was just regional

I'll @ you whenever its up and I have a chance to check

[glacial fulcrum]

Thanks!

Meruoienpepa

[rancid gust]

the clancy final chapter 25 thing was also latin

[glacial fulcrum]

Fr fr

[cloud lynx]

this is probably not correct

[rancid gust]

well thats what google translate gives me idk what to tell ya

waiting on chat gpt to be back up

to confirm

[cloud lynx]

lol

just ask an actual human

that knows Latin

[rancid gust]

see I knew a guy

but I don't have his contact info

[glacial fulcrum]

I have a feeling the spacing might be off? I mean there's no reason to split it into those three words

[rancid gust]

chat gpt says nah google translate is wrong

I'll try splitting it different ways

[glacial fulcrum]

I also posted in #theories the highlighted letter

[rancid gust]

chat gpt gave up on me again

;-;

[glacial fulcrum]

Noooooo 😭

[spice wolf]

I haven’t studied Latin in two years but that looks like nothing I’ve seen before. Google translate is awful with anything Latin.

[glacial fulcrum]

Definitely

[blazing patio]

They what us out

[glacial fulcrum]

😨‼️

[tall lodge]

GUYS I HAVE PROOF

ish

[shell kite]

chat anything new with the double album?

or just the normal things since Josh ran?

[tall lodge]

At the Newport hall, when Tyler played oldies station the logo and lights turned purple. We know we were hinted at a purple album a couple of times and we know we have some pretty decent proof of a double album, could this be further hinting it?

[warm crescent]

i think i’ve had hope for a purple themed era like 3 times in a row now

[lean mango]

IMO yes, it's evidence

[glacial fulcrum]

When did we get hints for a purple album?

I wasn't around in the clique for a while

[lean mango]

Will elaborate soon

[fallow violet]

um honestly their purple lightning is mostly used on songs that somehow address the clique

on the small shows it was during fairly local and screen

[glacial fulcrum]

I was gonna say, heathens has been using purple for years right

[fallow violet]

and oldies station on the last one

[fallow violet]

that would also fit

but idk how this would be connected to the double album theory i think its just meanings of songs

[glacial fulcrum]

That's really cool well done for noticing :0

[fallow violet]

this might be helpful, its a sheet for lighting director from one of the small shows

[glacial fulcrum]

Ooooo woawww

[lean mango]

Interesting, is P purple?

[fallow violet]

it seems so yes

[lean mango]

So, there was also purple lighting in the SAI livestream, I forgot which part

It had butterfly imagery

[fallow violet]

backslide says blue but honestly it was kinda a purpleish blue

[lean mango]

But I notice Oldies Station is the song that reflects where Tyler's at now, so may reflect where the story/music is going too

[glacial fulcrum]

The only thing purple they've teased I can think of is like years ago when Tyler wore a shirt with a purple butterfly 😭

[lean mango]

It deals with not exactly overcoming his problems but becoming able to coexist with them

Fairly Local, too, addresses him being inherently stuck with Blurryface in some way

[glacial fulcrum]

Idk the next album could be purple, there's just like no way to know

[fallow violet]

i love how this is a conversation in every era shjfsh

[lean mango]

Do we know the context of the purple butterfly shirt? I wasn't around, pretty sure I've seen but don't remember very well

[glacial fulcrum]

I still think it's gonna continue being orange for now

[glacial fulcrum]

The only context was that he wore for a few shows for lollapalooza

But that seems to be where the purple butterfly idea in the clique came from? Is there anywhere else that people could've got that idea?

[fallow violet]

well no purple era they broke the cycle

[lean mango]

Another thing worth considering imo is Josh's shirt in ATROFD

[glacial fulcrum]

No way trench is not yellow lmao

[lean mango]

But who knows what it means if anything

[pale harness]

the blue purple type thing?

[fallow violet]

i mean its supposed to be all the shades of yellow to green

[glacial fulcrum]

I guess, but sai had pink as well 🤔

Maybe it's just me but I don't think there's any way of predicting how they'll choose the aesthetics for whatever comes next, could be purple could be orange could be both could be neither

[fallow violet]

yeah if we take this literally then they already completed the cycle and are back at red

[glacial fulcrum]

Tbf they kinda are with Clancy :0

Back at red orange and yellow

[fallow violet]

yeah tyler said that was always the plan too and it makes sense tbh

[glacial fulcrum]

Still... I don't trust that guy

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-catstare-cat-stare-sus-catglare-cat-glare-gif-14942558849944709546

[static sinew]

luna

[rancid gust]

so apparantly we missed one of the sets of repeated pages

64 and 102 are duplicates

[glacial fulcrum]

60-36= 24
49-38= 11
102-64= 38

Doesn't seem like much in the way of subtraction

[wind hill]

november 38th 2024 🔥 🔥 🔥

[pale harness]

if y'all wanna search for more duplicates here

i made a website with all of them on it for easy viewing

https://www.dmaorg.site/misc/clancy/digital-remains/

[glacial fulcrum]

Thx! :>

[reef sapphire]

Maybe they use purple for the clique..?

Heathens and oldies are both about us after all

[left kite]

Anyone know where this is from?

[rancid gust]

nope

the fact that I havent seen it yet makes me feel like a fan made it

reverse image search on google doesn't bring anything up

[distant beacon]

Someone on twitter posted it

People asked if it was real

They never responded

So yes it’s more than likely fake

[pale harness]

its fake

that account has been trolling all week

[glacial fulcrum]

I do like the graphic design though

Lol

[lean mango]

does look cool, yea

[fleet pier]

Just curious since people say things like “don’t hope for a double album. Remember when we thought SAI was gonna be a double album?”

Was there any compelling evidence for a double album or anything extra with SAI? Maybe I didn’t look that hard but there seems to be a lot that points to something extra in some capacity for Clancy.

[glacial fulcrum]

Fr! I wasn't even aware people thought sai would be a double

[rancid gust]

I'd just like to toss this in here again for the top of this discussion

[glacial fulcrum]

I honestly think the level of teasing top's put out after this album release has been more than any other album, it will definitely mean something

[rancid gust]

well time to scour reddit for peoples old theories

[glacial fulcrum]

Haha lolll stay safe out there!

[rancid gust]

ok well this is all I could find

some people did think there'd be a double album but there was pretty much 0 evidence for it other than they didn't really like scaled and icy

and the "scaled and icy is propoganda" thing which doesn't point to a double album, but instead just describes what is happening lol.

re-reading the second one it seems like the guy isn't saying it'll be a double album, but that it'll literally be a different album altogether.

that the scaled and icy advertizing was a fake out

[fleet pier]

See that’s what separates everything for me. There is a lot of evidence that SOMETHING ELSE is coming out of Clancy and I’m so excited. If it all turns out to be false I love the album the way it is. I guess we’ll see what happens over the next few weeks.

[rancid gust]

^^

whatever it is its music

even if all of the other clues are just coincidences, the clancy final chapter 25 thing is a clue

and tyler said they'd be up front if clues weren't for new music

[fleet pier]

Exactly!

[glacial fulcrum]

100%

[maiden fox]

Omg

I need this music video

Where is it Tyler

There’s not even an announcement yet

[glacial fulcrum]

It's practically the only thing confirmed right now, I just hope it answers at least some of our questions 🫠

[slate jewel]

[cloud lynx]

sounds like cope

[rancid gust]

I think the post is from before the album came out

I can't tell tho because it just says 3y ago ;-;

[cloud lynx]

??

[rancid gust]

THATS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING

FOR LIKE 5 DAYS

they're all totally gone

for the new album

[cloud lynx]

interesting

xd

[rancid gust]

before they just said sold out

except the normal black one

[cloud lynx]

i see

[rancid gust]

which was still in stock

[fallow violet]

thats so weird

[rancid gust]

then they all vanished

ikr

[fallow violet]

like the standard one at least should be there

but its only the vinyls for some reason

[rancid gust]

ikr?? all the other standard ones are there

I tried to make a reddit post about it but it got blocked by the mods

[distant beacon]

😭

[rancid gust]

this is still there

but if you go down the link hole

[fallow violet]

sus

[wraith gulch]

Suuuuper sus

[rancid gust]

thats for the standard black, it does actually send you to the site for the target, urban outfitters, and indie exclusive

its not sold out either

the other ones are, and don't have hyperlinks

[olive plume]

i would say we can’t be using their merch store as a clue for anything but they did have the dmaorg link first appear in their merch store so maybe something is up

[fallow violet]

maybe theyre just removing the variants and fucked up somehow

[rancid gust]

maybe but like

its been almost a week

since it vanished

[fallow violet]

its been like that for a week???

[wraith gulch]

I sent an inquiry to the store help, we’ll see what they say. They usually reply very quickly.

[rancid gust]

yeah

5 days

[fallow violet]

damn

[olive plume]

they also had that blurryface vinyl that had goner removed from the track listing but i’m not sure if it was actually gone from the actual vinyl

[rancid gust]

let me actually double check, I made a post when I noticed it was gone

6 days ago

[sly hazel]

Inb4 the deluxe version leaks because the Warner store glitches out

That website is a travesty

[glacial fulcrum]

lol fr 😭

[warm crescent]

i hope if it’s a second disc the tracklist has even more absurd titles

“Door Keys,” “The Death of Him”

some fan made ass titles

need another “the craving……”

[pure timber]

Ngl I think some of the stuff yall say is a big reach

[lean mango]

Wym xd

[glacial fulcrum]

That's what I said 2 weeks ago... now I'm delulu as hell 😭

Or am I 🤔

[glacial fulcrum]

Ned's flame🔥🗣️

[lean mango]

People here have a lot of different opinions and thoughts, so I don't understand what you mean by "the stuff yall say"

[warm crescent]

Drag Path (Devil’s Eyes) is already a great start

what a fuckass title i love it

[glacial fulcrum]

I knowwwww

But I actually love tøp for their weird ass titles

I remember seeing Nico and the niners for the first time and thinking it was a sports team or something 😭

[pure timber]

Things like josh’s reply “it’s tough to find good company” it’s a lyric from their song so probably a coincidence

Same with tylers “get in losers”

[glacial fulcrum]

True but those are the weakest peices of evidence

[lean mango]

get in losers is probably a coincidence, yea

but the other one definitely isn't, the chances of that would be insanely small

matching up with exactly 47, 14, 6, and 25

[fallow violet]

lol i saw some fake leaks going around on twitter

[lean mango]

that's 4 different very specific numbers that are all exactly the same ones they teased before

[warm crescent]

yeah that stuff is a REACH imo

[slate jewel]

fake leaks we are so back

[fallow violet]

fr

[warm crescent]

but alongside the reaches there are also things that seem very intentional

so it’s half and half rlly

[lean mango]

I think people here tend to be good at calling out the big reaches too

[left kite]

Sorry, but is your pfp Spoiler?

[lean mango]

for example when "get in losers" was brought up, we discussed that it was probably nothing but still made a note of it just in case

[pure timber]

No? Its not related to tøp

[real field]

spoiler to what anyways

[lean mango]

Spoiler w/ uppercase S, probably a character in something

Ah

[fallow violet]

yeah I certainly make a note of stuff that at first gives off "reach" energy just in case it comes into play later

[lean mango]

Spoiler in the DC universe

[real field]

hm

[pure timber]

Oh lmao

Nope not that

[glacial fulcrum]

Fr fr, a bit like the way everyone always thinks the actual top tracklists are fake until they come out lolol

But of course there are prolific fakes and coincidences everywhere

[real field]

true that guy on reddit got slammed for the fake track list

well, "fake"

[lean mango]

The one that turned out to be real?

[fallow violet]

that was so fucking funny when the tracklist and cover art leaked and everyones first reaction was uhhh that sounds fake, and i honestly thought that too at first but then i checked the source and i was like... yeah guys idk about that it seems legit, but everyone already made up their minds so i was quiet 😭

[real field]

i rememer someone leakling the real clancy track list and he was being ripped apart on reddit lmao

[left kite]

I meant this lol

[lean mango]

The funny thing to me is, that tracklist didn't exactly sound like it couldn't be a real TOP tracklist

[left kite]

Sorey for the confusion

[lean mango]

it just sounded exactly like what a fan would make if they were making it up

[pure timber]

Yeah it’s not that character lol you are good

[real field]

ah true

[glacial fulcrum]

Im so praying that Toad Barrow is a real song they release, that would go so hard

[real field]

ong

[lean mango]

Anyone have a link to the original thread where Clancy's tracklist was first posted?

[glacial fulcrum]

[fallow violet]

then the russian vk page that posts those things answered one comment with "yeah we only post fakes here" which was clearly a sarcastic comment and everyone took it like confirmation of them confirming its fake 😭

[left kite]

TOAD BARROW
TAOD BARROW
TOAD BARROW
TOAD BARROW

[slate jewel]

toad barrow mention

[real field]

fr fr

[warm crescent]

[warm crescent]

it was so funny seeing people try to justify how the entirely new image of tyler and josh was a reused pic from the icy tour photoshoot

[fallow violet]

😭 the copium was hitting hard that day

[warm crescent]

sending images in the chat of pics that are at angles that would be impossible to photoshop into the pic on the cover 😭😭

what an amazing couple days

[fallow violet]

istg if they dont announce paladin mv tomorrow,... are they fr announcing it on thursday they fr wont even let us have more than 24 hours to prepare

or maybe its not this week after all i will actually cry if we have to wait one more week

[left kite]

I never questioned the album cover, but totally thought the tracklist was fake

[glacial fulcrum]

Can you imagine if the 25th is their idea of early June

[pure timber]

Ngl tho I dont feel the cover represents the album well

[slate jewel]

interesting, I think it represents it super well
I just don't like it aesthetically LOL

[rancid delta]

unless it drops sunday like i think it will

[left kite]

It fit what I thought the album would be, but not what it actually is

[glacial fulcrum]

Actually yeah I totally get you lol

Me too

[pale harness]

The cover fits well imo

[fallow violet]

have they ever released anything on a saturday/sunday though

[left kite]

It feels super grungy and diy while the music doesn't really.

[warm crescent]

only a couple tracks really hit that vibe

[slate jewel]

yea

[pale harness]

yeah but an album is not 100% the same style tho

[left kite]

I feel like it fits the sound of Trench a lot more

[pale harness]

especially a top album

[warm crescent]

it’s not a matter of style, trench is an amalgamation of styles yet the cover represents the tracks pretty well

[slate jewel]

agreed, though trench's cover is perfect for it tbh

[left kite]

Like it'd be a good Trench 2 album cover, but the music we got was not Trench 2

[glacial fulcrum]

It's cool, not my favourite though

[fallow violet]

the cover for some reason gives off this vibe to me

[slate jewel]

it's growing on me

[glacial fulcrum]

I liked the front and centre symbolism album covers of blurry, trench and sai

[left kite]

Yes

[pale harness]

I'll be honest in 6 years I'm sure I'll feel the same way about the Clancy cover as I do now about Trench

[warm crescent]

even the name of the record doesn’t reflect the tracks on the album tbf

[lean mango]

trying so hard to dig up that tracklist on reddit and it's impossible

i mean the original post where everyone doubted it

[left kite]

I didn't like Trench's at first 😅

[warm crescent]

a lot of ppl didn’t from what i remember

[fallow violet]

they mightve removed it ig

[left kite]

It's grown on me, but I when they took the initial tape off the cover I disliked it and felt like it was lazy and didn't match

Now I love it tho

[pale harness]

Yep

In 6 years time a lot of opinions on the current album cover will be different, trust!

[warm crescent]

i feel like the listening party art works better with the music

anything besides the whole “burning down dema” stuff meshes better with the music

[pure timber]

Only songs that I feel fit the vibes are overcompensate,next sem and navigating

[left kite]

Clancy is really good. But it wasn't epic. Trench was epic, and this being the end seems like it should feel even more epic than Trench

[pale harness]

Paladin MV soon, i'm sure it'll be epic