#Double Album Confirmed
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Yeah Clancy is just some fun hits to have another lil break before whatever the final one is
im worried for the banditos
nico said that there were only a few of them
SAI b-side
going off this, if there really is no double album then the paladin straight music video really is gonna be 15 minutes long

Yeah this is more likely ngl
2 am let’s see if they dropped Clancy: the Anthology
their last album should be called untitled /j
But idk he said “does that SOUND like the end to you?” Like there’s gotta be at least a single called inferno or sumn
This is so fcking real
yup
yeah
if he didn’t say that we wouldn’t be here
there was already a vinyl variant called inferno lol

Also Paladin Strait is literally where they landed in Trench
its literally the early afternoon here
yeah but like the album itself is still a massive ciffhanger
Yeah
i think paladin strait is about them going to dema and reaching the bishop's tower
yes
and the last 7 minutes of the music video are gonna be them making out
but anyways the ended is gonna be really sick
ending
and will have a very expensive music video
and cinematic
Yeah
and won’t be a video of them walking through a Forrest for 3 minutes
they blow up a whole city (aka dema)
fireeeee
but wait
we will win but not everyone will get out
Tyler and Josh
*eighters
keons 💀
sacarver is prob the baddest bishop
one thing I’d like
before the end
is to know a little more about each bishop
because we only care about nico and Leon’s
and not lisden
or nillis
or any of the other ones
Gn thanks for checking out my theory. I was told I was an Arkham Asylum patient for thinking this at the start.
I was on board
🤝
my favorite bishop Leon's
Here’s to atleast a couple extra tracks, goodnight yall
Whatever they're cooking rn is gonna be great
by the time vigenette and routines in the night started playing i was 100% convinced that paladin was not the end
they are physically unable to not cook
Paladin Strait can't be the final act tbh
They're hiding a second part fr
HOLY SHIT ITS THE TB SAGA
Lmao
plot twist, the album is actually 26 songs long
The Few, the Proud, and the Emotional. Will be the title of the ep or double feature 
imagine triple album: Clancy, Torchbearer, Toad Barrow
i think its most likely to be a deluxe than a double album or ep , bc a second album is a LOT of music for them to put out so soon after this one (theyre not taylor lets be real) and an ep wouldnt go towards this albums sales. i think a deluxe right before tour is very very likely , since sales of the deluxe boost album sales overall + their summer rn is very empty for so early in the era
I feel like a deluxe album isn't quite their style though, and tbh Clancy is already very much stretched out in the sense that there's the overcompensate edit and the craving single version. I'm probably still just being delulu but a double album would be so heavenly
Like I said in a theory they sat on music during the bandito tour.
SAI wasn’t planned til the pandemic happened
im just saying deluxe is more likely than double
i also dont think we will get a fifth dema era
THIS IS THE STRAIGHTFORWARD ERA AND THEN BE DOES THAT
bc hes been pretty adamant in interviews that this is the end
Ight imma go read and decompress
Def not
Hold up
Remember how he said back in sai Era that they considered holding off on touring until they released the next record and touring both of them
yeah
yeah i think its weird tour is so late into the year. they usually tour within a month of release
But it would be two albums, one era
hence why in saying deluxe is this summer
i just dont think they have 11+ more songs to put out lmao , plus the second album's sales wouldnt go for clancys numbers
Either way Tyler said in an interview pre Covid that they were about 50% done with the new record.
It was then shelved and SAI was made.
true but like they love deleting good music (aka rab)
hoping for double album; feel like a closing EP is most likely
So either Clancy is what they were working on then or the new one or new songs from that shelved album will come out.
Either way it was supposed to be trench then Clancy
But covid happened so they made it work.
Prob not but you get what I’m saying
Also, we still haven't made it to whatever is beyond trench
Unless that actually is just voldsoy
Voldsoy
they havent really done eps before (other than the trench triplet ep and 3 songs pre-vessel ep , and all those songs ended up on albums) so i doubt that. plus like i said the ep wouldnt boost sales numbers for clancy as an album , and the label would probably pressure them to do something more like that lmao
thatis fair
I doubt voldsoy is the end destination
It literally means island of violence
/lh btw, not trying to be argumentative
i agree
Def not
but maybe we never will get to beyond trench ?
like maybe thats the point
you cant escape your mind , only make peace w it
I think there's a high likelihood that they have a lot of music, and a double album's worth probably isn't too far-fetched. Of course it's already been mentioned that they've been working on this in some form since before SAI, but also some things Tyler said in the stream kind of hinted towards that for me
Routines In The Night and Navigating both had a chance to not even be on the album, and if he was even considering not including them and wasn't intending to have a short album or delay it longer, there were probably others to choose from that Tyler considered potentially just as good or better. And Navigating ended up being one of the biggest lore songs on the album
Great points
I’m ngl I’m a lil “bummed” that we were delayed the album for only 1 new lore mv. Nothing against the band. They did a great job just expected more lore focused content tbh. From the marketing to the I am Clancy video.
Idk I still absolutely adore this album but feel a lot of that “hmph” is missing
And I feel like that’s in the deluxe or whatever you wanna call it.
The collection of even newer content.
Yup
Yeah I don’t want to sound greedy but it seems like we were promised more
Imagine Paladin strait releases june 7th (2 weeks from today) and it’s 45 minutes long
Well, I've seen theories that the delay was actually to avoid the day of Billie Eilish's album
tho it's probably some of both
not totally sold on double album but after what tyler said today it doesnt sound like he means the music video having the conclusion .. he literally said does this sound like the end and proceeded to play the song literally implying theres more somehow someway. idk how but somethings definitely up
my theory has been since the album got announced that we're gonna get a single after the album
one extra song
because every story album has 14 songs except SAI
and Clancy's got 13
I think that's decently likely
I think you are cooking
IDK though, something about ending it with just one song even feels a bit empty considering the extent of the story
I'm more inclined to think that 14 isn't important and just happens to be the length that makes sense for a full album for them
There's the tiny possibility lurking in the back of my head that Goner being missing from the setlist on Blurryface was meant to hint that the last song on Clancy is missing, but that feels a bit far-fetched and like confirmation bias for me to really feel confident about that
I like that theory.
However, one particular reason that I don't know about the idea of a new single to end it, especially as a 14th Clancy track, is the physical edition
I think a lot of people would be annoyed if they bought the album only to find out it's supposed to be completed with one more song, even if they release a "deluxe edition" which has it, I think it would still feel more like the versions without it are incomplete rather than the other way around
If it's a double album or even an EP, that does more to justify a whole new edition IMO, + they could theoretically release it as a standalone thing too
Yes I agree. I’m thinking EP with 4-5 songs and big visual maybe released on YouTube for free but you can buy the physical ep disc if you want. Like mtv unplugged etc
true
yeah maybe EP
or
though i don't have any proof or hints at that but it would be really cool
like
a 45min like short movie
So…. Nobody’s talking about the DEMA calls ?
I mean…. Why
Why would they do that if it doesn’t imply something else is coming, apart from Paladin
What do you guys think ?
Also, a bit of a stretch imo, but it would be veeeeery cool if they do a double album with, yk, 8 songs, so more like an EP
that way the whole era has 21 songs total
And a perfect fit for TØP’s final bow to the story of Dema
we dont know if the calls are real still so its not worth talking about yet, only very few people got them it couldve been some prank they didnt know about
but yeah after tylers teasing on the livestream i definitely think the chances of us getting something more music wise got higher
We should also learn about what Torchbearer did while Clancy was gone, how he managed to get the remainings of the Trench Bandito fighting against the Bishops
yeah id like to see that but its also kinda something i totally see them just skipping and not showing us
it wouldve been great
Yea I understand, would’ve been great tho but Torchbearer always has been the “background” character, so maybe it’s time to take a bit of a spotlight for Josh ? I feel like he’s leaning to become a bigger part of the Finale
i hope so!
That’s the thing though, they were finalized.
Idk they could’ve scrapped it but I just don’t see that.
I know I made this double theory but I feel like that’s the most extreme
The most likely is a deluxe
enlighten me i didn't hear about any calls what happened?
same
OTHER FANS HAVE GOTTEN THIS I WAS JUST THE ONLY ONE W A VOICEMAIL?
multiple people have gotten this as a voicemail
it says this apparently https://x.com/shlofolina/status/1793912157970800892
ok but how
idk its weird still dont know if i believe it. like people arent for sure lying about getting them but maybe someones pulling a prank or something
did they get the numbers
theres only like 10 people i saw on twitter saying they got them
well someone just got seized
i mean we did give them our numbers i think
only when i know where they could possibly get those numbers from
with the small shows for sure
did we?
how was that numbers tho?
Wasn't it all over mail / instagram?
or you mean at the small shows
the nyc one had it through phone numbers, they had to text and even afterwards, you couldve still subscribed to them through a phone number, i did it
ok alright
very interesting
but yeah im still sideeying. its weird to me that not many people got it
next step would be to figure out if all the people that did get it
yk
actually signed up for anything with their phone number
well i wonder who got glorious gone'd
hold up
Okay assuming it was a prank, and assuming the post i found actually is the thing in reverse,
Why would someone who wants to prank people make it that complex?
see this:
https://x.com/joeharrisuk/status/1793934649019805707?s=46&t=JCF9cMiJocNuKJbWBzkgxw
but again idk if that's actually the thing backwards or not and im too lazy to try myself
see
and the thing in reverse
if it would be a prank
why would anyone go that far for a prank
i mean clikkies are insane but-
dunno
oh you have NO idea
So who received a voicemail like this
heres another https://x.com/TRENCHKlD/status/1793931106158538793
it's super weird like if this isnt them then its kinda scary who just has random clikkies phone numbers
My question is
yeah it's the same one for everyone
why would "the pilots" have random people's phone numbers and like
many signed up for the small shows through a phone number, i did
how would they know these numbers are from people that are proper fans
if u sign up for a small show
you definitely are
you had to solve a riddle remember
maybe since its random that would actually explain why thers not that many, also some people probably think its some spam and wont even post about it
well one person got it in the voicemail so
it totally could be
one day after ig
but yeah it could be
but i could also see them just doing this for a few days
like getting more and more calls
tbh i don't see how a prank like that could be possible
it would help if mark said anything if this keeps happening and its not them. because its lowkey scary then lol
at least if the people doing it aren't friends w/ the victims
like how could they target specifically clikkies
ye that's the way it would work
are the people that are getting these voicemail friends?
normal people would go to the police and not post on twitter
but
then we had news somewhere
dunno, ask them if doubt they'll tell you if it is a prank
either it's just the friends of the victims
or it's actually the band that got their numbers
ye
I mean the music videos not saying “from the FULL LENGTH album Clancy” could be an indicator too
does this mean we’re also getting a scaled and icy double album?
saturday didn’t say full length album either
I thought it did
bounce man 2
twice the bounce
most of them do but saturday doesn’t
no more bounce man please
YOU GOTTA BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE MAN
i mean it is interesting that none of the videos we have so far say full length album but maybe that’s just because of something in the paladin mv??
my own personal hell 💔
I don't buy the theory that it will end in the Paladin MV
real
paladin strait the movie
If we trust what Tyler said, he basically said that it doesn't matter much that we're not seeing the MV yet because it was made to tell the same story through the music anyway
a double album after shitty marketing for 3 months and 30 vinyl variants would just feel bad imo
like more music is great and id be happy if it did happen but having the option to buy 30 more variants of the same vinyl would feel scummy
if there were way less variants of clancy then i’d believe it
I disagree, it's awesome having a lot to choose from. It's only bad for people who feel like they need everything
but so many vinyl variants just causes waste for the ones that aren’t bought and never will be
if they just had like 2 variants of clancy and then there was this big push for a secret double album with 4000 variants then it would be better
but they’ve made so many variants that at least one looks nice to everyone so if you like to have physical copies of the albums you like you might as well buy one
to me anyway it would just feel like a way to squeeze money out of the people who do want to buy nice vinyls for the band they like
There's no guarantee that a double album would be a double physical version too. It could be digital-only, or it could be a separate physical thing, in which case it's just like a new album release soon after
i don’t think it would be digital only because artists lose so much money through streaming
Really, if people are mad that there's more available after choosing to try to buy everything, that's on them IMO, the vast majority of the fanbase won't care about having a bunch of different physical versions of the same album
No one was forced to drop hundreds on every variant lol
yeah but people did because they thought this would be the last story album
i don’t think those people deserve to get squeezed even more even if their financial choices are questionable
Could be like mtv unplugged where it’s available entirely for free on YouTube and you can choose to buy a physical copy if you want but not required.
they’ve already said that lore videos are very very expensive to make and so i just don’t see anything other than a very extended paladin strait mv
did anyone buy the album because it was the last story album?? I bought it because I liked it
and if they do another one, and I like it, i'll buy it
i'm not buying anything because it's the last of this and that, if they do more that's more stuff for me to consume
well you could say that because this is people’s favourite band and their huge decade long story is coming to an end people who wouldn’t have bought anything for trench or sai could be more easily convinced to buy something this time
more to remember something from this era rather than collecting cds or vinyls
obviously clancy being the end isn’t the entire reason why someone would buy a cd or something but i feel like it would contribute
you think? I don't think that's the case with vinyls or cds tho
And i also don't think anyone's actually mad about it-
I mean- Idk man i don't really see your point honestly
If there’s a lore EP after Paladin they probably already made those videos while making navigating and Paladin MV. Honestly navigating didn’t seem like a high dollar MV when you compare it to something like Saturday, location-wise sure that’s expensive but it was mostly running in the woods with fire and stuff. So to me it’s not out of the realm of possibility that the big budget lore videos include a few extra tracks we don’t know about yet.
cuz i buy merch from a band because i like the band no matter if thats the last album or the 5th and after i bought that they release 4 more
yeee lore-EP is my theory i'm staying with it
album's too much, a single is not enough to wrap up the story
Yeah
so a 4-5 song EP works
a paladin music video could easily wrap up the entire story though
I hope for 4-5 but I could see them doing it in 2-4 depending on length of the songs
- it’s in a few weeks so i’d assume we’d get dmaorg letters
And before you say anything:
If they release that, I will gladly buy it and thank them on my knees.
And won't be mad because i got more things
I don't think it could tbh. Wel, not that it couldn't, but it wouldn't make a lot of sense in my opinion
i’ve just accepted this story is going to have a lot of unanswered questions lol
there are way too many questions i have to be wrapped up in three albums so two wouldn’t be enough anyway
The song ends with a cliffhanger and this has always been told through/alongside music. Even if they did something like using old music to soundtrack a final battle, I think it would feel empty as an end to something that's been set up for so long
maybe we just get paladin street mv, and at the end there's some cryptic thing which we puzzle together to a date and at that date something happens that wraps up the story
we don't know
well never know
I also think a lot of people forget that there's a point to this lore, the story is being told because it parallels a real-life thing they want to convey
That's actually a thing i've been thinking a lot about since clancy released and people started saying that there's like one lore track
So while I think some things will remain cryptic, giving it a fitting and powerful end beyond just "Clancy defeats Nico" is important, and I think it would be hard to do that in an extended music video where the song itself is only about reaching the confrontation
because for some reason i don't really get that thought of "the lore isn't just "the lore" a story that doesn't really have meaning" out of my head
and i knew that before and i still know that but i feel like it's really really important atm but idk why
yeee that's why i'm saying EP
Plus from the song alone we don’t get that Clancy defeats Nico, it is closer to the opposite which even if they continue it visually in a longer video seems odd that’s how they would audibly end the album lore-wise.
Yea, true, which is something I mentioned elsewhere too, even though a lot of this has been told through videos and dma.org, these have always developed alongside the music
Yep
Something else to think about: I went back to review whar Tyler said about the Paladin MV, and he said the reason it was delayed was that the song was designed for the story to be conveyed through the audio aspect, and he wanted to give people a chance to soak that in on its own without the video
i wonder what he meant by audio aspect
Probably the lyrics to the bridge and ending
While people would hear them either way, with the video they might be more focused on what they see, and might not catch the lyrics direcrly describing the progression and events
ah i see
It also makes it obvious to first-time listeners that the confrontation with Nico is part of the song, and not just an added thing in the video like some songs have
Have we ever thought that it’s possible it’s just a long music video with an ending not another album
i'd love that. 15 min MV and Clancy and Nico are talking and stuff
Yes. That is my belief. It will be a short film 15+ minutes
yes, a lot of people have theorized this
I don't think it's very likely that they'd end it that way though
(I'm not really sold on a double album or even additional EP either though)
how do you think it will end? the ending was not too specific. there's a lot of lore left out that we can use. it just doesn't feel like the story is completed from this
There are two options I think are most likely personally. One is more music, whether that's one song or multiple, as the lore is pretty intrinsically tied to the music. The other would be a dma.org update with more puzzle stuff, eventually leading to some kind of conclusion. In that case I think it could be a video with no new music, and still potentially work, as we'd probably get a lot more background for how the ending goes through more letters and other less on-the-nose hints, before the final reveal. I do think dma.org is getting at least one more significant update, it's been part of this since the beginning (at least of the overt dema/trench lore)
Did we ever find out if those phone calls were fake?
yes, confirmed fake

Holy fuck
Oh yeah that is true. It also had 25 after saying that
RAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
What does 25 mean 
Tomorrow
maybe 2025?
Oh whay
fr i feel lore-baited
or 25th of may lol
Oh geez okay-
Could be
Oh yeah
And it had I think 6 antlers around it, so 6/25?
ooooo june 25?
They'll still be touring Clancy in 2025 tho
oh must be
Oh yeah that's probably right lol
what day is it
“Paladin mv coming early June” “June 25th” lmao
Tuesday
if the 25 means 2025 i will hibernate until next year
or 12 extra songs to make 25 total songs
What if the Paladin MV announced the new album or wahtever
Paladin reveals the release date
It was either 6 or 7 antlers
Paladin MV early June... SOMETHING ELSE JUNE 25???
I’ve had a feeling since the start of this that there’s something else coming- idk about a double album fully but they’ve not put their whole effort into this like I thought they would? Not that they haven’t put a lot of effort in and I appreciate it- but something’s missing
i doubt itd be 2025 since thatd be after tour started
"Hello clancy"
CLANCY CHAPTER 2
JUNE 25TH 2024
Paladin Early June and Ultimate Chapter later June, that matches up with the Simone Veil thing
Holy it actually does too
Clancy the ultimate chapter June 25th (or maybe July)
July 25th actually makes a lot of sense
im still thinking about how the alt album artwork w the dhredded clancy letters featured letters we havent seen yet
It's a Thursday and close to the tour start
Yo we need Keons in here
the hmv exclusive
and the listening party posters
Was just looking at the days
June 25th is a tuesday so feels maybe not right
what about july 25
Thursday
Can’t wait to see if they’re in the journal- I get mine today 😭
i think if they were they wouldve leaked already
guys i think it might be 2025 💀 otherwise why would there be just a 25...
It was either 6 or 7, not 8 or 9 because I was thinking they would do it for amount of bishops 😭
There was apparently antlers around it
Yeah fair 💀
i’m pretty sure someone else already got theirs and said nothing was new :(
tmrw
also I have the journal, didn't specifically see anything new
Idk about that though bc why wouldn’t they prioritize Clancy first if they’ve got a year in between- like why are they scrambling for the mvs
it should be may 25th 😀
I might have missed some stuff but idk
it just feels like it should be before tour ,,,, unless its like clancy tour -> clancy pt 2 -> clancy two-ur
We just need someone else to confirm the code stuff and how many antlers 😭
yeah theres even a video on youtube of some guy going through the journal if anyone wants to see
true!!!
but like i said theyre taking 3 months between the album coming out and tour starting ??? suspicious. its usually within 1 month
i hope so
So do we think this is actually a seconnd album or more like a deluxe edition
given that it's keeping the "Clancy" name
but paladin mv is coming out early june so i feel like that's unlikely
and it just feels like a year is so LOOOONG to wait / drag the hype out
i think deluxe
I mean I’ve put it up to Tyler’s new kid but
June 25th. Calling it.
although i do understand letting clancy settle hell they letting paladin strait settle too
im coming in late, whats the 25 and antlers stuff/other proof of a double or extended album?
chey on twt said "we are clancy" could be the deluxe title
FPE event thing had a hidden code apparently
i’d say probably a deluxe edition, esp because during the stream tyler was like implying that there were maybe more songs that didn’t get added to the record, like how certain songs were “almost not on it”
doesnt matter its tuesday i think if its some extra song or an EP it could totally come tuesday
paladin mv coming june 7 (likely)
That's true actually if it's jut a deluxe version I think Tuesday is fine
Clancy Final Chapter coming 6/25
me when i thought it would all be over today 
so maybe we get like a June 11th Paladin MV and then June 25th deluxe
I mean, look at ttpd, could be a subtitle
I did kind of get the sense that the “hello Clancy” was like- directed at us as the audience, almost
"hello clancy" is not being over to me
Clancy: The Final Chapter or smth
True true
imagine we get a fucking deluxe tmrw
hmmmmmmmmmm
no that's my point lol– i was like "oh it's going to close out today" and then we get "Hello Clancy" and deluxe album theories 😭
oh yeah haha
it’s probably gonna be after paladin strait mv 😭 but one can hope 
i am losing it
same :,)
lol i’m kidding
And the whole- “you tell me if it sounds like the end”- idk just fishy
WE ARE SO BACK
me rn: rgzrhoigzzefuifrhizefguizefhipzejfiguzof
he just cant stop with it
no way. NO WAY
either he likes torturing us or there's something we are missing
or both. probably both
even when the story has an obvious end he would come around and be like "oh is it???"
I FUCKING KNEW IT
Yeah I- I have been saying for months now that we’re missing something- Tyler’s not telling us something- there’s something else. Idk what- I’m not fully a double album supporter but like- something
I don’t think it’s a double album, maybe a hint that the true ending comes with the Paladin MV
just not a double album tho
naaah there's gonna be another chapter, even if it's a short one
a deluxe or whatever
it might be a deluxe version or whatever or an EP
Might not be keeping the Clancy name, it could be hinting towards what it is but not what it will be called
Same. I'm just really hoping we're not over-theorizing 😭 I do NOT wanna get let down bcus I overanalyzsed stuff
rather than telling us the actual name
If it was an ep the spotify bio would still be true
We did all think the album was going to be titled Inferno for a while...
I just read about this what is going onnnnn
"Final album in the saga" DIDNT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT AN EP
or a deluxe
Oh yeah fr- I’m prepared to eat my words if this is the end, I’ll be happy- but I still have a vibe
If it was a Deluxe version it's still the same album too
what was keons saying about 6/25 and simone
I don't think we're getting a double album. But I think we're either getting SOMETHING from the Paladin MV or more songs.
Yeah- either Paladin mv is going to be way longer/way bigger than the song itself, or something small after it
Or an ARG!
i mean if its a double album its still technically The album thats the final, double album is basically a "part 2" but it would still fall under clancy
oh i would love an ARG 😭
yeah I always thought this aggrandizing of the album was strange!
omg an arg would be so fun
i might be over-analyzing, but it's a bit weird how it says "multi-album" for previous records, but "LP" for Clancy
but might be FBR marketing language because Tyler seems very doubtful and insecure regarding success
i know "LP" can more or less be synonymous with "album" but idk it's weird
I'm gonna throw up
oh that's not what you're talking about rofl
Yeah he’s always hesitant to be too up front about his success/skills-
nah u're probably making a good point
Yeah ultimate carries the meaning furthest or last in Latin, it’s gonna be Clancy final chapter or Clancy last chapter or something
Clancy: The Final Chapter
based on brad, Clancy isn't the signal of anything for alt rock music
Chapter Clancy: The Final
fnaf 4 be like
I'm just surprised if it exists how it hasn't leaked yet
If it exists they definitely haven’t shipped it out to distribution
tbh it'd be badass if they kept the title in latin, or shorten it
Clancy Ultimus
it’s a good point, but maybe they’re being suuuper tight with it
Definitely
I mean if they're targetting June 25th as a release we're stilla month out
idk I feel like it's 2025
Yeah I’d take it as 2025 too
if it's an EP or a whole other album
If it's a whole other album yeah
If it's a Deluxe version I'd say June or July
Clancy tours currently announced shows end 3 days before the blurryface 10th anniversary and then the years clear
Tyler talked about OC being a show opener for the next years to come
possibly implying, longer than 2025
It’s absolutely a deluxe thing if it’s still called Clancy, they’re still gonna be playing Clancy songs
Clancy World Tour and then... something else? Clancy ULTIMATE World Tour???
What if Tyler has already told us and it's called "Clancy: The Final Battle"
They do reuse openers for a while though- like trees has been a closer for ages
fair
Inferno tour
true
the listening party in France did happen, in a movie theater
yesterday
they apparently showed a few MVs early
Yeah- it was unofficial too- like the organizers of the quiz weren’t affiliated with the band
Same. I'm going to keep my expectations vague so that whatever comes, comes! I think something is definitely going to happen.
if those two things are linked*
It was done through an independent company- like how each other listening party was organized through their record shop
oh okay
I’m fairly sure- I could’ve missed info about it tho
Yeah I mean they got the files from the band- but the people who set up the quiz weren’t from the band
ooooh okay yeah
THIS IS NOT THE END! I REPEAT - THIS IS NOT THE END! 🗣️
ah interesting
this era has had the most IRL stuff
and it's so wide covering too
crazy
also
btw
they all went "this is the finale"
but like
they kinda went another direction over time, no?
the marketing still says stuff like "final LP" but otherwise... we have clues about a continuation
i mean, it can't be the end?
at least there has to be like an additional 2 minutes in the MV
otherwise i'm more confused than ever before on the lore
wait what's going on someone tldr me
If they’re still calling it Clancy I’m assuming it’s just a deluxe edition type thing so it’s still Clancy as the final album
Release Livestream - Tyler said: Do you think this is the end?
They didn’t say dema final chapter or anything they said Clancy so it’s related to this era
and then Paladin Strait played
would be weird to just end the story in an MV with a song that ends on a cliffhanger
wouldn't they make an actual end song?
Basically the exhibit might’ve had a hidden code that translated to something along the lines of “Clancy finale” as well as the numbers 25 and 6 vultures around it- so we’re theorizing off of that
Torchbearer EP believers rise up
Clancy Ultimus 2-hour movie
i wanna read the journal so bad, but my order arrives earliest on the 28th 
even if there's a movie later, i'm pretty sure they might make some music for it?
This entire rollout we’ve been arguing if Clancy was trench 2 or blurryface 2 when it was right in front of us the whole time, Clancy is Clancy 2
I have news
Nothing very solid still
I'm hesitant to say it, but Clancy rn sometimes sounds like a SAI 2 (in a positive way!!)
lol
First, from Oldies Station
I have had the thought that it kinda feels like sai done right
Not to say sai was bad it just didn’t shine to the point their other albums did
?
This albums kinda felt like a redux of those ideas and really doing them to the fullest capacity
:OOOOO
It's voldsoy clancy
i don’t think that’s a thing
i know ):
other MVs might also have clues or easter eggs like that
The first is the badge FPE from Trench, second is more subtle.
You have to look at the background, in the photo with Tyler you have 8 exact same wardrobes. That doesn’t seem to be Clancy’s clothes, more something like that
And then, you may see red silhouettes looking like this behind Josh
Thanks to a guy in the comments
I didnt even notice the bishop behind josh in routines until someone told me
Tyler said the Lore "heavy" Videos are just Overcompensate, Navigating and Paladin Strait. I'm pretty sure everything else has to be treated as easter eggs
The Dema site was some kind of easter egg
So
yeah it's just a mix of all their label sounds
and what a mix
june 28
Oh shoot
Could this be legit? Could he have put the birds for an intentional amount of time?
yeah that’s what i’m thinkin
So funny story the actual sound on the track ends exactly at 6:25
oh shitttt that is a funny store
he could've definitely stretched it with the door sounds etc before nico speaks
on the dot? damn
shi idk then
There's also a bit of an interesting pause between "emotional" and "hello clancy"
idk, we will see, but i think that’s a pretty good idea
this
can you send it
i would be interested as well
Something a little different from what I usually do on this channel! Got my Clancy CD Journal, and thought it would be fun to do a little unboxing video with it, as I've been quite curious about the contents and I assume I'm not alone in that regard. Hope you enjoy the video! I will be reacting to the whole album soon, and I will have it uploade...
ty
thanks gang
I hope we see more people speaking about the experience hidden code thing so we can confirm the amount of antlers and whatnot
i dipped out for a bit but qwerty spitting fax as always
i havent seen anything outside of this chat and i feel like im on twt a lot
i wish i could see some sneaky video evidence
The fpe would be such a sneaky way to reveal it
Like the dmaorg sai reveal but on a smaller scale
“I am Paladin strait”
They know it'll spread like wildfire
mb Tyler I should’ve moved to Columbus the second I became a fan
FPE backwards…EP Finale? 🗣️😎
epic Paladin fight
False Paladin Ending
https://x.com/MeownTown/status/1794045278435102894 this person also mentioned it
but doesnt mention the 25
I believe we're getting a double album
Tbh I am starting too aswrll
There's no way Tyler hasn't seen people theorizing about that, it's all over, and then the comment that he made?
He actively encouraged it
and probably saw the leak discussion beforehand, which made it obvious folks would be sus of the ending
Tyler is a notorious troll, too, but he's definitely been stoking the fire
Plus, that was a popular theory around SAI, so now they know that's something we would actually really like so they could've planned it
Y’all think they’re saving the zane Lowe interview for whatever’s after Paladin to be revealed?
Imagine it’s called FPE
yeah no zane Lowe interview for this era seems kinda shitty, he has the best ones of each era
I thought a lot last night about the lack of merch there was for this album rollout, perhaps there is something more in stock if there is a double album
btw there was a puzzle at the end of the exhibition today! if you unscrambled it, it said “clancy ultimus capitulus” which says “clancy ultimate chapter” in latin! a double album is COMING!
btw
a double album could BE a deluxe edition
no?
in a way
2 side album w/ the first part we already have
Yeah if it is like "Clancy: Ultimate Chapter" it could be a deluxe edition
like i mean maybe it's kinda obvious but i wanted to point it out, deluxe/double album may not be so contradicting
now the real question is how many songs we'd get on the deluxe part
I've seen entire Side Bs and I've seen like 2 extra songs
have we gotten more than one person confirming this info
Yes
That's at least 2 right
3 so far that I've seen
Yeah there's been like 4-5 people who have all said the same text
Underhat and then two different people on twitter
I've only seen 2 people mention the 25 tho
^
and so far no one else has mentioned the antlers
two thoughts on 2025 possibility:
- since all the songs (aside from paladin) already have mvs , theres little left to keep hype up for this album going forward. usually they drop 2 more post-album mvs a few months later + a year later (for sai it was saturday a few months later and outside almost a year later , for trench it was chlorine a few months later and the hype almost a year later) so the deluxe album having singles w mvs a year later makes sense
- im assuming whatever they do will be announced when paladin mv drops. and june 2024 is WAYYYY too far out to announce an album in 2025. usually album announcements are 2-3 months in advance
tldr i dont think itll be 2025 i think itll be august
I agree on that tbh, I feel like it has to be June 25th or July 25th
God I wish
Odds the second album or the song straight after PS on the deluxe starts with Tyler saying "Hello Nico"
Someone pointed out Paladin Strait is 6:28 so maybe 6/28
it could be 25 days
the exhibit is also tomorrow right?
I think so
It was also today
25 day long mv
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(he's basically just talking about the same stuff as we did here)
"it's been twenty-five times" in snap back makes me wonder, there's gotta be a connection to the 25 thing
ohhh
that's what I've been thinking too
I can't focus on it till I finish this essay lol but if someone figures something out lmk
interesting
pretty sure the 25 in snap back might refer to 25 cycles, and maybe each day leading up to the 18th might be one of these cycles
odd that the 25 would line up with this though unless the delay from the 17th to the 24th was always partially planned
unless the FPE exhibit was always going to be the 24th
I could see this being a possibility (probably the only reasonable possibility if it is a countdown)
I think there's no particular reason it had to be album release day, just near that time
I was thinking
If you watched the live
Before palidin strait Tyler said something about
Asking if this sounded like the end
WAIT SOMEONE CATCH ME UP PLEASE
What exhibition? Where did we get Clancy Ultimate Chapter from?
Wait ok I understand the exhibit now
They had an exhibition of artifacts and lore from the bands history in Columbus
Apparently in the Clancy section there was a bunch of scrambled letters and the attendant was making sure people were paying attention to it
It unscrambled to Clancy Ultimos Capitulos 25 or something similar which translates to Clancy Final/Ultimate Chapter
Alright so what’s the fan theory? Someone mentioned a second LP in 2025?
well it's kinda split rn
some people think 2025
some people think that's too late and we're thinking maybe June 25th after Paladin MV
I think with them saying this was gonna be the finale of the lore they wouldn’t wait that long
But didn’t they say early June for the MV?
and some think it's a countdown
June 18th is josh's bday
Yeah they could do MV around the 10th/11th and then 2 weeks later 25th for the Deluxe edition or whatever
or theres the countdown yeah
Yeah
some people mentioned there being either 6 or 7 sets of antlers around the hidden message
possible they were trying to give us 6/25
What’s the significance of the 6 and 7 antlers
How would they continue this story without just one big music video in paladin or something
This could make sense for him being Torchbearer
Could this possible next album be the torchbearer album? Where we perhaps see some of the story from Josh?
I doubt he’d write a song or anything though
I think the fans want that but I doubt they’d do that
So unlikely
So ig we wait for now?
I think it's more likely we get a deluxe version of the album
either with a full B side or just like 3-5 new songs that wrap up the story
Yeah
For sure
A second album wouldnt be from the torchbearers pov
Idk man I’m so happy with Clancy but if we got some more minor-key break beat stuff then that’d make this top Trench for me
I agree unfortunately
I think the more likely thing could be an album from Nico's perspective
The stage is set
Blurryface was introduced clancy was introduced
The final battle has to take place
There's no time for a torchbearer album lmao
Yeah exactly
Either way something is happening with that 25 and the ultimate chapter
whether it's a deluxe version, second album, movie or whatever
HAHHHHHH dude a movie would be bloody amazing
Deluxe would mean fans would have to rebuy the entire album to have the new songs
I think a deluxe is the most likely
I think they'd lose some sales on that
Oh gosh you’re right
Oh wait yeahhhh so is an LP more likely then?
A full album seems excessive so maybe a single or an ep
Dema EP
Let's gooo
Idk honestly it could be anything at this point
It's definitely new music tho
I think we'll know more once we get the Paladin MV to see what that kinda sets up
So idc if it's an album or an ep or whatever
It's just a label lmaooo
The mv will be an even bigger cliffhanger
Because they can't wrap up the story
Of paladin?
Yeah ^
And they always tell the story using yk music and lyrics
Unless the MV holds two songs…? Idk just a thought
ye same I just have this gut feeling that Paladin isn't the end and it's got me on the edge
Oh it’s definitely not the end
Without question
With the “hello clancy” and Tyler saying “you decide if it’s the end” there’s no shot it is
I mean “hello Clancy” sounds like the beginning of an epic boss fight
Paladin Strait MV
Clancy vs Nico (both sides of Tyler)
🔥
Epic boss fight 💪
btw, wait wait wait
it says in the song that the banditos are fighting
fighting who
They are?
I think they'd depict the battle in detail tho
yeah
It feels like a bit of a skip
Like this is the bit that comes after a song that shows the fighting
Maybe they created a diversion
And now clancy is making his way to nico but I don't think we'd gloss over this big event in just one line
Definitely, but it also seems like the beginning of a finale confrontation
The “Hello, Clancy”
Yeah the music video is definitely gonna continue that confrontation
I think it will
Or whatever comes next
Im legitimately certain we’re getting more music
Idk mannn
Even if it’s a single. But I don’t think it’d be that, I think they’re bigger than that
I think paladin will continue the fight or something, but that’ll be it?
They can't continue the fight cuz there's no more lyrics
Dude with everything they’ve done, with the Level of Concern ARGs (which may have been the most INSANE thing they’ve ever done), the release of SAI, everything, this release felt really anticlimactic
So either it won’t be a song or it’ll be a single
The album and MVs are amazing, don’t get me wrong
But Tyler is so certain on ending this
They're still free to show what they want but the lyrics are set in stone so it'd be weird to have the finale without any lyrics
Every interview
But they’re not really the climax and ending of this 10 year insane journey
This ^
But it might just be a B side with 2 or 3 songs
Yes
Definitley not a new LP though
Which is why this isn’t the ending
Like no shot
Probably not. But definitely an EP/B side
Not B side
It's odd how peaceful ps is tho if it's leading to the battle
But I don’t think they’d do a single. Unless that single is upright insane
I agree it’s very strange
So what does that mean? That this is actually just the end?
Nah
Or that we’re missing something and this is the calm before the storm
I mean what if this is actually the end
But the minute of birds is meaningful
I’m certain we’re getting more music
Maybe
This
Nope
What if the minute of birds is the background to a montage/time lapse of the battle
No way in heck a band as genius and meaningful as them would end this with “hello clancy” and leave it at that
Idk
Hear me out, we’re not supposed to know an ending, everything about this album is cycles, and maybe we’re doomed to repeat it
Orrrrr
I fully think the minute of birds is going to be Clancy looking out over Dema and Trench from the Tower and realizing how peaceful it is from up there
They wouldn’t do that though
They can’t write an ending because ir genuinely hasn’t happened yet
I’d love that
In real life I mean
I’d hate that.
I don’t think they’d release something that hopeless, after everything Tyler’s been through
Cause’ that’d be very bleak
It’s nit hopless
It’s a what if
We need to be the ones to conquer our own nicos
It’s cheesy albeit
That’s what I’m thinking though
Nah see the ending isn't really going to have a "winner"
Yeah I'm also betting on a hopeful but realistic ending
It is, though. Every lyric and message of cycles with tøp implies a want of escaping it, that the cycle is not something you want to be stuck in
Agreed
but it's going to be about self acceptance and learning to cope with your problems
I think also there will be a message of Messianic hope, considering their beliefs and the messages of Christianity throughout all of their music
removing the bishops control but not destroying them
maybe taking down the walls of Dema to allow it to be more free in the continent of Trench
Nah. The story’s been wayyyy too tied into the music for that to be the ending
Yeah I agree without question
God is who he trusts, and he can’t defeat Nico
That’s why I believe Josh represents the Holy Spirit, too. The guide, the torchbearer
Agreed
But again the band wouldn’t leave this as the ending with just dialogue. They know how to deliver story, there’s something bigger coming
I’m placing bets
I really hope at least
There has to be smth more
I sure hope so
I’m certain there’s more music
For example they showed that clancy can now seize
Are they not gonna show those powers being used?
I have this gut feeling of “oh yeah, something’s coming”
I love the record but I’m actually really disappointed how little lore was in it
Even navigating could have had so much more to the mv
Thats just one example, there's a million things that contribute to this climax and while they don't all have to reappear it wouldn't make sense for these things to be mentioned and then tossed away immediately
An ep would drag it out too much though
They wouldn’t throw this whole thing away in an ending like PS
Drag what out?
The 15 second climax?
True
There isn’t even anything to drag out. There’s hardly any lore
3 maybe?
Even three feels like a stretch
3-5 lore imo and some more non lore
As someone pointed out, there can’t really be a deluxe or B side tho since they’ve already sold the albums vynals and CDs. A record label wouldn’t allow a band to hurt the image like that
That's already an album
An album is 7 or more songs
An ep is 3-6
And a single is 1-2
So I’m guessing an EP
Hmm
The fact that tyler was easily ready to not put navigating and ritn on the track seems like he has more songs he could replace them with
Wait hold on
Ok that is true
Also another person pointed out that there’s not that much merch for this album. I mean, remember the SAI rollout? It was wild
he also said there was like 50+ versions of at the risk of feeling dumb
And he confirmed that he already had a record ready when the pandemic hit (went to SAI instead), and we know that they started working on Clancy a year ago because of a Paul meany production explanation…
But even if he had more songs there's no way they all have the same specific lore
one of the videos in the stream was called "At The Risk of Failing"
The second album is just all 54 versions of at the risk of feeling dumb and nothing else
I have a feeling they all went back and forth a lot of times with what they wanted and where
I was thinking about that too, really weird…
Wait wait wait wait doesn’t this contradict what the Spotify thing says??
Yeah
Wdym
I think
I think the Spotify description of the album contradicts that, implying they have other music they’ve had ready for 3 years
Tyler would've been fine with not having navigating be on the record
No that’s what i mean
Time to redownload Spotify
I completely forgot about that
Yeah
There could actually be another LP
Because he knows the story will pick up at full pace in the music that comes after clancy
That they’ve been sitting on
That’s what I’m saying!!!! But an LP seems way too big, doesn’t it?
But why wouldn’t it have come before Clancy if it was written before?
THIS
They are trolls. They juke us out a lot. They are musical geniuses. This is my theory: this is the anticlimactic fake out before the real stuff hits
We convinced you LMAO
What exactly is an LP
Haha you might’ve
The big finale (that, like Neon said isn’t going to really have a winner or fantastical conclusion), epic music, lore, etc
Yes
It’s an album I think 7 or more songs
Generally way longer though
What’s that?
LP/Album/Long Play: 7 or more songs
EP/Extended Play: 3-6 Songs
Single: 1-2 Songs
Sure he could get rid of navigating because most of the lore is in this new record
This!!!!!!!!
Still navigating is what connects overcompensate and paladin strait
They need to have something to replace it
Maybe they had another song same lore but diff music?
Maybe they were gonna have that lore stuff anyway, and the comment he made was referring to the execution of those ideas. So that particular sound
Essentially this
they might've just used a different song instead
Yes
Oh rly?
Just an idea
Ok I might be getting off the rails, but what if they were playing characters there? So us die hard fans would ask why he said that, but what if they were in character there or something? Tyler didn’t actually mean that, and it was Clancy that didn’t want it? And the torchbearer that did?
Still seems like they had a backup
Also I agree. Or like a plan B lore-wise
Definitely
Eating oreos and drinking mountain dew seems very Josh dun
Ok true true
Dude after the LOC stuff I literally can’t put anything past this band
I spent hours on that thing
That’s when I got into this band
But that was a huge lore song, and it does not feel right that Tyler would be cool with it not being on there
Yeah
Exactly
Sooooo why? Why would he be ok with it not being on there?
Either it was a lie, a faux comment, or there’s something huge coming
For sure a navigating replacement
Cuz they can't leave like a hole in the plot lmaoo
Are we insane. Off topic but us staying up theorizing this stuff. Are we sane
Or a hole at the very end like PS
My friends and I have problemssss
The proud
The emotional
The emotional
lol nice
So you should bounce man lol
Hey now, you better stay in your lane, boy
Not today, not today
I know what I’m doing for my 18th birthday 🤣🤣🤣
This is my fsvorite thing I’ve ever heard
Snap back to reality, buddy
Pffft ik you were gonna do that
We should pun war in a different channel
While you’re bottomless
I hate that line
Not this again lol…
It’s almost as bad as the slits in your face
