Leak Theories - SPOILERS (DO NOT SEND LEAK)

[dim island]

It can’t be that good yall are lying (I’m jumping in excitement)

[random pivot]

i hope yall know that the heavy moments being even heavier on this album only means the sad moments will be even sadder

[vale wraith]

Yeah this one definitely has some of those Midwest emo vibes (similar to Navigating) but it’s cranked up to 11

[errant crown]

IM SO READY

[fresh quiver]

someone dm me please 😭😭

[copper oar]

Breach to me so far feels like clancy if it was only snap back

[random pivot]

what

[magic fjord]

the 2 month wait was worth it

[tawny wigeon]

…?

[mystic verge]

This is odd to say

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 8!

[copper oar]

The writing and chords just feel so much like that song idk

[magic fjord]

this is the best theyve ever sounded /srs

[tawny wigeon]

guys it’s not similar to snap back sound wise

[blazing atlas]

Someone DM me pls

[copper oar]

This

[vale wraith]

-# I’m not a huge snap back fan

[atomic blaze]

It sounds like 2000’s punk with a lil screamo at warped tour

[magic fjord]

not at all

[random pivot]

not anywhere close

[dim island]

Are those lyrics real

[keen bison]

I however, am.

[rapid nest]

genius? yes

[random pivot]

i like it but every time i listen to it i kinda wished the part at the end with the bass and the guitar was the whole thing but ig the payoff is the point of the song

[snow solstice]

Why do the second singles always leak lol

[fresh quiver]

DN PLEASE

[void dock]

can someone send it to me pls:3

[keen bison]

You guys will literally get pings if it starts. 💀

[tawny wigeon]

this song is emotional. it feels like a song that’s apart of a larger finale 😔

[random pivot]

imagine the leak wasn’t even real (it was)

[vale wraith]

I don’t feel like this counts as a real leak lol

It sounds like it premiered early on a Russian speaking station

[crude badger]

Yeah i dont think it matters atp

[magic fjord]

i cant wait until the mv drops cause with a sound like this what the FUCK IS THE MV
GONNA BE

[finite totem]

YES

[random pivot]

can this be the album to top trench

[rapid nest]

Yeah i wonder about tue mv alot

[tawny wigeon]

i think it’s a trench competitor for sure

[vale wraith]

Trench was never at the top (controversial opinion)

But yeah I think it’s gonna be heavier than trench and will tickle the ears of the trench lovers

[random pivot]

spoiler theory ||seeing the lyrics of this song, am i the only one who thinks this feels kinda related to the events of heavydirtysoul mv?||

[oblique goblet]

Bro wtf is that one part

[tawny wigeon]

definitely..

[vale wraith]

Driving around interlaced with them playing in the parking garage

[random pivot]

in a good way or a bad way

[tawny wigeon]

||i think ur talking about the bridge and its the russian leakers voice 😭||

[oblique goblet]

The part that sounds like a product placement in a foreign language lmaoooo

[random pivot]

this is the answer lol

[oblique goblet]

That was an interesting artistic choice Tyler, I totally see the vision

[rapid nest]

30 MINUTES TO MV

[errant crown]

WOOOOOOO

[random pivot]

yall think we will get the boxsets today?

[fiery nova]

Who up boxing they sets

[marble wasp]

Most likely yea, also the track lenghts 🥹

[tawny wigeon]

yeah and signed cds

[random pivot]

have we even ever gotten the track lengths before the album drops

[marble wasp]

Uhhhhh idk

[mild anvil]

|| who else up stuck between a rock and a hard place||

[random pivot]

||who up rocking their hard||

[mild anvil]

oh my gucking || god we have JOCALS JOCALS ARE REAL||

[pseudo grail]

okay goofy

[queen harness]

hi any

[vale wraith]

I think it’s ||home?||

[errant crown]

yes

[random pivot]

yeah

[magic fjord]

okay now imagine the whole minute at the end live

[mild anvil]

oh well he should be better at enunciating

[rapid nest]

||that fucking scream oh my god||

[vale wraith]

Enunciation is for losers

[magic fjord]

i cant wait for cincy

[random pivot]

is legit mind blowing i didn’t know he had that much skill in him

[tawny wigeon]

||the scream is giving heavy save energy||

[rapid nest]

||I WANTED TO SAY THAT YEAH||

[marble wasp]

wdym theres 24 minutes left ):

[magic fjord]

NO YK WHAT THIS IS TRUE

[tawny wigeon]

||josh bridge made me want to sob||

[mild anvil]

UNTIL WE GET TO SEE EM

[random pivot]

song leaked like 30 minutes ago

[mild anvil]

it genuinely sent me to my knees

[ebon bloom]

He’s playing Jumpsuit!!

[tawny wigeon]

fr 😭 made me want to explode

[magic fjord]

i cant wait to cry and mosh at the same time to this song live

[mild anvil]

i ran to the bathroom bc im at work and was listing to it in there and oh my GOD

[marble wasp]

This may be a dumb question but whenever something leaks its always an insider right?

[mild anvil]

yeah typically

someone in the industry

[random pivot]

this time i think it’s just that a russian radio played it before they should’ve

[tawny wigeon]

||the whole song has an incredibly emotional undertone||

[marble wasp]

[mild anvil]

sometimes ppl are silly and send the cd's out early or someone accidentally uploads it to apple music a day early

[tawny wigeon]

||the russian voice is a very interesting artistic decision||

[mild anvil]

ahem my blood

[oblique goblet]

What u mean by dat

[marble wasp]

the second single always leaks right? I barely remember the clancy rollout so um yea

[rapid nest]

so far yeah?

[mild anvil]

||i agree it really adds a sense of character||

[magic wadi]

where did it leak?

[mild anvil]

always

[tawny wigeon]

||definitely adds to the emotional bridge as josh sings “i want to change”||

[rapid nest]

||animus leaks.... do yall remember....||

[oblique goblet]

He wants to move to Russia

[magic fjord]

i miss animus leaks.... the line just isnt the same without the tag....

[tawny wigeon]

it’s safe to say they’re never gonna break the second single curse. dare i say i would’ve preferred drum show as the lead sjngle

[ebon bloom]

Bro said “Drum Song” on the radio 😭😭

[rapid nest]

can we share the song to animus and ask for them to add the watermark to drum show

[magic wadi]

collasal fail

[magic fjord]

i think the contract was a good lead single and tbh im glad theyre saving most of their heavy hitters for after

[ebon bloom]

He said it TWICE now 😭

[oblique goblet]

How do I listen to the radio

[mild anvil]

i think the only single that didnt leak was from sai

[narrow reef]

dude on BBC keeps calling it Drum Song

[mild anvil]

it was shy away, choker, and saturday

[rapid nest]

drum song 😭

[random pivot]

choker did leak

[mild anvil]

did it??

[magic wadi]

where did people hear the leak?

[mild anvil]

i know the names leaked early

[random pivot]

i might be missemembering but i remember listening to it through a mp3 file first

[obtuse sky]

Its up on apple music

[mild anvil]

the only reason trench didnt technically abide by the curse was bc natn and jumpsuit released at the saem time lmao

[rapid nest]

YES IT IS

[fierce pond]

WTF

[mild anvil]

levitate and my blood leaked early

[ebon bloom]

ITS ON APPLE MUSIC

[obtuse sky]

Apple Music is always some minutes early

[fair raft]

whats happening?

[fierce pond]

https://music.apple.com/us/album/drum-show/1827507396

[thin copper]

17 minutes early damn

[magic wadi]

holy shit this is HEAVY

[vagrant rapids]

Yeah this was immediately accessible, The Contract had to grow on me for a while. Maybe recency bias but Drum Show is Trench level good

[fierce pond]

it won’t play tho

[feral monolith]

Told you guys I’ve seen music on Apple Music as early as half an hour

[thin copper]

i can listen to the preview on Discord

[rapid nest]

it plays for me

[fierce pond]

ok it’s working now

[magic wadi]

the bass is so deep this is insane

[atomic blaze]

Won’t play for me let me innnn

[thin copper]

i listened for like 2 or 3 seconds
cya laterrrrr

[fierce pond]

JOCALS

[gritty yoke]

damn could have listened to leak if i didnt go to the gym where i hurt my hand again. Should have stayed home but at this point its only 15 min so im waiting

[rapid nest]

is the writer just tyler Joseph

[fierce pond]

HOLY SHIT HES DOING THE BRIDGE HOLY SHIT HES SCREAMING WTF

[atomic blaze]

That’s Tyler’s scream lol

[fierce pond]

it is? oh

[ebon bloom]

Does Breach have animated cover yet??

[naive hemlock]

I PREDICTED IT LMAO

[fierce pond]

not yet, pretty sure clancy didn’t get it until it dropped

[rapid nest]

why is it still August 7 lmao

[obtuse sky]

It’s gonna be Clancy walking away from the jacket /j

[buoyant bramble]

Is it actually out on apple music

[lone olive]

Is the drum show being talked about in the song about drumming on your steering wheel while you cruise?

[rapid nest]

yes

[naive hemlock]

thats just a regular screenshot with heavy saturation 😭 its not anything special

[buoyant bramble]

How would you guys rate the song (no spoilers)

[rapid nest]

11/10

[ebon bloom]

Will delete 🫡

[fierce pond]

yea there’s an ios bug rn where every screenshot does that

[naive hemlock]

💀 peak ios moment. I'm on the 26 beta so i dodged a bullet ig

[rapid nest]

@obtuse sky fix pls ty 😊 🙏🏾

[buoyant bramble]

Better than the contract?

[last solar]

oh man i cried

[stiff fable]

Much better

Which is insane

[oblique goblet]

No but still very good

[vast cradle]

boxsets btw

[stiff fable]

WHAT

ARE THEY POSTED

[oblique goblet]

That last chorus fucking slaps though

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 10!

[buoyant bramble]

I was gonna have some victory ramen while i watched it but im literally out 😔

[vast cradle]

yep trying to screenshot the website

[obtuse sky]

It’s a setting called hdr screenshot i think

[ebon bloom]

Not yet

[stiff fable]

SENDDDD

link them

[rapid nest]

CHECK UK STORE

[tawny wigeon]

BEW MERCH

[obtuse sky]

Go to settings and search for screenshot

[fierce pond]

idk

[ebon bloom]

AHHHH

[tawny wigeon]

NOVA BISHOP??????

[ebon bloom]

Nova Bishop?!

[ionic mural]

wtf

[obtuse sky]

Is it ios 26 beta? If so, then… feedback

[random pivot]

PMG

[distant quarry]

Heh im dark clancy🥀⛓️

[ebon bloom]

Info cards

[obtuse sky]

OH

[tawny wigeon]

WTF IS NOVA BUSHOP

[atomic blaze]

wtf is a nova bishop

[fierce pond]

yeah i’m just gonna wait for it to get fixed next beta

too lazy to leave feedback id rather complain on discord and twitter 🔥

[obtuse sky]

Nova, at least in portuguese means new

Oh oh

[ionic mural]

dope

[random pivot]

NOVA BISHOP????

[fierce pond]

also the merch isn’t even showing up for me y’all can y’all get a link

[hollow cave]

do u have the link??

[tawny wigeon]

WTFFF

[fresh quiver]

WHAT IS NOVA

[atomic blaze]

We thought we were cooked with dark Clancy omg

[gritty yoke]

bro nova bishop gives me bad vibes

[tawny wigeon]

NOVA BISHOP AND NOW DARK CLANCY TFFD

[oblique goblet]

YOOOO

[fresh quiver]

IS NOVA HIS BISHOP NAME

[mystic verge]

Interesting that Nova Bishop and Dark Clancy are the inverse of each other

[obtuse sky]

It comes from latim
It means new… so new bishop…….

[boreal nexus]

WHAT DO WE THUNK OF DRUM SHOW???

[obtuse sky]

It’s fucking awesome

[rapid nest]

OH MY GOD THESE ARE AMAZING

[gritty yoke]

damn tb about to beat someone up

[rapid nest]

nova bishop id card??

[mystic verge]

All of the bishop names are on the border of the bandana

[ivory trout]

Can I get the link for the boxsets

[obtuse sky]

Cries in Brazilian

[atomic blaze]

Dark Clancy is a fucking purple cd

[prime sparrow]

RAWFEAR!
@lofty pike

[lofty pike]

WHAT ABOUT IT
OHHHHH

[gritty yoke]

someone bring back the colour theory

[oblique goblet]

New lore in these??

[prime sparrow]

YES MY PFP!

[rapid nest]

OKAY THESE ARE PEAK

[granite monolith]

WHATS OUR ETA

[tawny wigeon]

oh my god they’re fucking amazing

[ionic mural]

what's a nova bishop

[rapid nest]

AAA 10 SECONDS

JESUS

[granite monolith]

HERE WE GO

[regal otter]

New snippets

[atomic blaze]

I know we’re all watching the MV right now but those character cards are readable with a little squinting

[steel stream]

How fast do you guys think it’ll sell out??

[granite monolith]

Hopefully not too fast

[steel stream]

I don’t get paid until next week 😔

[feral monolith]

That was AMAZING

[granite monolith]

city walls is their biggest MV and most expensive

[shy talon]

ITS SO GOOD

[steel stream]

SOOOOOOO GOOOD

[shadow mirage]

ITS SO FUCKING GOOOOD

[worthy dock]

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So goddamn good. Feel like I’m back in 2006

[granite monolith]

IT COST A MILLY WTF CITY WALLS IS GONNA BE INSANE

[summer mist]

THAT EAS SOO GOOODD

[shy talon]

HOLY CRAP

[finite totem]

HUH?

[obtuse sky]

Holy. Hell.

[granite monolith]

In the interview Tyler said city walls cost a million to make and took 5 days of shoots

[ionic mural]

omg 🥲

[summer mist]

THE SCREAAAAAMMMMMMMM HOLY SHITTTTT!!!!!

[granite monolith]

"feeling stuck between a rock and a home, two places you don't wanna go" TYLERRRRRR

[random pivot]

hey sooo why are all the pieces inside the nova BISHOP boxset pics of clancy 😆😆😅😅😂😂

[unkempt wagon]

We were blessed today fellas

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 9!

[prime sparrow]

@shadow mirage my pfp..

[fierce pond]

i wonder when/if they’re gonna upload an atmos version to apple music

the contract had one under its single release but not on the breach page, no atmos mix for drum show yet (or lyrics)

[modest tinsel]

THIS SONG IS SO GOOD

[tired basin]

the song is so impressive

[buoyant bramble]

When tyler screamed, I screamed and blew my voice out

[shadow mirage]

love it dude! How did you like the song???

[thin copper]

GUYS u were right WTF this is the closest they've been to metal
this is so fucking good

[prime sparrow]

I CANT WAIT FOR BREACH NOWWWWWW!!!

[urban summit]

IS IT GOOD

[rapid nest]

LITERALLY MASTERPIECE

[thin copper]

the second verse almost has reggae vibes lol

[urban summit]

I HAVENT LISTENED TO IT YET I CANT FOR ANOTHER LIKE 20 minutes AHHHH OH KY GOD

[tired basin]

THEY just confirmed its not the last tour

[queen hornet]

where

[narrow reef]

god this song is so fucking good

[subtle mesa]

OMFG I LOVE THIS SONG

[merry elk]

Tears

[urban summit]

WHATS IT ABOUT??!!!

[tired basin]

BBC interview live @queen hornet

[shadow mirage]

SAME DUDE ITS SO GOOOD

[subtle mesa]

THE SCREAM?!!! asdfgsgahjakdf

[urban summit]

WHATS IT ABOUTTT

[merry elk]

The best drummer on the planet

[summer mist]

HES PUTTING ON A DRUM SHOW

[devout igloo]

The song is freakin emo

[thin copper]

putting on a metal show

[tired basin]

yes!

[urban summit]

oh cute a josh dun love song about time

[queen hornet]

this one is going down as one of the hardest top songs of all time along with navigating, jumpsuit, etc

[sharp crow]

That says the new bishop doesn't it...?

[tiny garnet]

From the video countdown

[tired basin]

there is longer snippets right

[plush compass]

where is this intervierw

[granite monolith]

Bbc radio 1

[oblique goblet]

How did I miss this part????

[tired basin]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live/bbc_radio_one @plush compass

[tiny garnet]

That’s the whole countdown video audio so

Dunno

[ebon bloom]

https://x.com/banditohub/status/1957498787150328245?s=46&t=zQt85CUdx9cO6JiJTRsUlQ

Bandito Hub |-/ (@BanditoHub)

🚨The music video for 'City Walls' has cost $1 MILLION to make, according Tyler and Josh on BBC Radio 1

X · Aug 18, 2025, 5:44 PM

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah...

[cerulean pivot]

That's probably the cost of a show or a tour, so it will probably include footage of a show...?

[devout igloo]

Bish what.. i hope its like fucking 20+min long

[heavy wasp]

rip my wallet i got the bishop boxset..

[cerulean pivot]

I can feel another "Leave the City" in breach 😭

[sharp crow]

I thought Clancy was going to turn into a bishop, but now I'm sick and guessing because Dark Clancy and Nova Bishop are referred to as two different people...

[unreal anchor]

it's sound like for TV series

[atomic blaze]

Got my boy dark Clancy

[devout igloo]

This sounds so turnstile

[unreal anchor]

that one Nico controlling Clancy to dark side again

[shadow mirage]

Why is no one talking about the SYNTH SOLO at the end

[heavy wasp]

That's an W

[mystic verge]

Tried to use ChatGPT to transcribe the ID cards:

TORCHBEARER:

REGISTRY FILE: 21.4mnJmL1
DOCUMENT TITLE: TORCHBEARER
DOCUMENT TYPE: PERSONNEL STABILITY INDEX

NAME: UNKNOWN
CATEGORY: TORCHBEARER
CLASSIFICATION: UNRESTRICTED
ORIENTATION: CIVIC LEADERS

DESCRIPTION:
SUBJECT HAS BECOME THE UNOFFICIAL CONSTANT IN THE
FRAGMENTED TORCH LANDSCAPE. MEMORIES SEEN IN LOCAL
PROPHETS. DISPLAYS NO LOSS OF DEDICATION FOR
PURPOSE. KNOWN FOR INFORMING PAROCHIAL SYSTEMS IN
COMMUNAL SPHERES FOR GREATER INDIVIDUAL CONTROL.
CONSIDERED HARMLESS BY VIOLEST STRATEGISTS, YET PRESENCE
IS PERSISTENTLY INFLUENTIAL AND HAS INSPIRED REBELLION.
“A LIGHT THAT DOES NOT DIM.”

RECOGNITION:
FORMIDABLE, RESOLUTE
DO NOT CONFRONT.

[urban summit]

UGHHH ITS KILLING ME THAT I CANT LISTEN RN

[fiery nova]

A million dollars on city walls???

[mystic verge]

DARK CLANCY:

REGISTRY FILE: 26.110.2-02
DOCUMENT TITLE: CLANCY (CENSORED) IMPACT
DOCUMENT TYPE: CHARACTER DESCRIPTION DOSSIER

NAME: O. MANCY (CENSORED)
CATEGORY: OVERSEER (NON-KINETIC)
CLASSIFICATION: CHARISMATIC / UNPREDICTABLE
ORIENTATION: MULTIPLE (OFFL.) TO NO MORE (???)

DESCRIPTION:
SUBJECT CULTIVATED FOR DISSENSION TO FILL VOID,
DEMOBILIZED STRATEGIC ATTITUDES AND INFLUENCE.
DISPLAYS INCREASING AUTONOMY AND BEHAVIORAL DIFFERENCE.
NORPHIC TENDENCIES RECORDED POST-ESCAPE, WIDELY
REGARDED AS SOPHISTICATED SHADOWBOX IN ENERGY
PROJECTION.

RECOGNITION: REPUTATION VARIES
MEASURED (LOCAL) POWER LEVELS
UNTRADITIONAL

[ebon bloom]

https://x.com/cixncy/status/1957499053970686302?s=46&t=zQt85CUdx9cO6JiJTRsUlQ

becca ISO new york ga (@cIxncy)

biggest music video they’ve ever made. cost a million dollars. recreating old music videos. tyler wearing outfits from a decade ago. yea we are not surviving the city walls mv

X · Aug 18, 2025, 5:45 PM

[fierce pond]

[mystic verge]

NOVA BISHOP:

REGISTRY FILE: 23.75.1-14-06
DOCUMENT TITLE: THE NEW BISHOP
DOCUMENT TYPE: REGISTRATION DOSSIER

NAME: REBOP / VULTUR (CENSORED)
CATEGORY: REBOP (PROFESSIONAL)
CLASSIFICATION: UNRESTRICTED
ORIENTATION: OPTIMISTIC / DIVIDED

DESCRIPTION:
KIND OF SUB-REBOP FOLLOWING EXPLORATION OF PRIOR CHANNELS,
INITIATED BY INFORMAL SELECTION DESPITE BACKCHANNEL
COMPLEXITY AND DENIED JURISDICTION REQUESTS. ELEVATED BY
PEOPLE AS A SYMBOL OF RELIGIOUS THROUGH PARLIAMENTARY
MEASURES CONVEYING CHARISMATIC QUALITY.

RECOGNITION: REVERED / FEARED LEGENDARY RESPONSE
FURTHER OBSERVATION ADVISED. PUB

[rapid nest]

https://twitter.com/BanditoHub/status/1957500732661461477

Bandito Hub |-/ (@BanditoHub)

🚨Josh and Tyler mentioned on their BBC Radio 1 interview they wanted a 'period of unknown' after this tour cycle, but confirmed this will in no way be a farewell tour

X · Aug 18, 2025, 5:51 PM

oh god the not nothings again...

[fierce pond]

yo respectfully, please stop speaking

[edgy wolf]

Can someone send the BBC1 interview?

[fierce pond]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live/bbc_radio_one

[urban summit]

OKAY HOLY SHIT RYLERS VOCALS ARE INSANE

[mystic verge]

Read it or don't read it, I don't care. Thought it would be better than nothing ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sharp crow]

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING? THE FALSETTO SOUNDS SO UNIQUE??

[late stirrup]

2 songs- 2 screams
breach is our heaviest thank the lord

[tawny wigeon]

1 MILLION?

[urban summit]

I ACTUALLY FUCKING LOFE THIS THIS HAS TO BE THEIR BEST SOMG EVER SERIOUSLY THIS IS MY FAVOURITE

[prime sparrow]

I REMEMBER!

I REMEMBER CERTAIN THINGS!

[urban summit]

I WAS SO SURPRISED AT HOW HIGH HE WAS AT FIRST

[granite monolith]

Those teases are so hard to hear nooo

[mystic verge]

Most interesting takeaways for me are "formidable" being used to describe the Torchbearer and the Nova Bishop being labeled as "optimistic".

[oblique goblet]

Woah I didn’t see this!!!

[urban summit]

AND JOSH LIKE JOCALS FUCKKKK I LOVE IT IM SO PROUD OF HIM AND THE SCREAMS WHATBTHE FUCK IS THIS MAN IT KEEPS GETTING BETTER

[sharp crow]

I still can't get over this because if blue means defeat... Dark Clancy... It doesn't sound like Clancy's breaking the cycle

[oblique goblet]

KEONS RETURNS FROM THE DEAD ?????

[random pivot]

so bishop clancy confirmed or

[keen bison]

Take it with a grain of salt, both of you used AI and got two completely different answers.

[sharp crow]

9 people...

[shadow mirage]

What is this?

[honest roost]

yall my chat gpt is wildly different lol

[granite monolith]

So all 9 bishops pushed for this..? Meaning clancy bishop was planned pre-the outside in lore

[mystic verge]

Damn, the results are way different

[honest roost]

REGISTRY FILE: CR-5711-8-09
DESIGNATION: THE NEW BISHOP
DOCUMENT TYPE: ASCENSION DOSSIER
NAME: MINISTER OF CULTURAL AFFAIRS
RANK: BISHOP (PROVISIONAL)
ORIGIN: UNIDENTIFIED
CITIZEN RELATIONSHIP: INTERMITTENT / DIVIDED
ELEVATION:
RISK OF SUBVERT FOLLOWING IMPARTATION OF PRIOR COMMAND.
INDICATED BY INTERNAL SELECTION DESPITE BACKGROUND
CONFLICTS AND SEALED JUDICIAL RECORD. ELEVATED BY 15
PEOPLE AS A SYMBOL OF RESISTRA [RESISTANCE?], THOUGH PRELIMINARY
ANALYSIS CONFIRMS UNSTABLE LOYALTY.
NOTIFICATION INDEX: REVERSED / FEARED LEGIONARY RESPONSE
FURTHER OBSERVATION ADVISED. PUB

[granite monolith]

Well yeah it's only guessing, we know how bad chatgpt is with words and imahes

[honest roost]

For what it’s worth I did edit my photo to enhance the saturation and whatnot to hopefully help.

[ionic mural]

yo who made your pfp and layout i want the same

[oblique goblet]

WTFFFFFF

[random pivot]

has anyone reuploaded the interview

[honest roost]

I fear my ChatGPT ate on this one

[atomic blaze]

Considering they reshot old
MVs for city walls I’m assuming bro is firmly stuck in the cycle

[heavy wasp]

no one i js found it out of nowhere i also have torchy

[rapid nest]

okay i cant choose which boxset to get

[sharp crow]

ME NEITHER I'M STUCK BETWEEN DC AND NB

[ionic mural]

could you send both brother? i'll wont copy, i'll edit them my way or som

[keen bison]

Oh my fucking god I had a horrifying image

[fiery nova]

Same to you bud

[ionic mural]

no me too, i'm asking friends and they react like "wtf is dat" do i choose black, red or all three ?

[errant crown]

i love DC one, and the box is leather which makes it so much cooler

[keen bison]

So uh
What if City Walls is just Clancy going through every single MV sped up.

[rapid nest]

city walls mv will hit hard..

[random pivot]

did anyone record all the snippets they played in the premiere

[fierce pond]

it’s in #announcements

[loud sluice]

i want to.... CHANGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[random pivot]

the thing i’m scared of is… after hearing this longer snippets i really wish the contract and drum show aint the only heavy songs on the album

[edgy wolf]

Does anyone have Drum Show in .flac?

[dim island]

this album is gonna be amazing

[honest roost]

I think it’s gonna be very trench coded. Some heavier songs, some softer songs, raps thrown in, etc. we’re gonna be eating GOOD

[timber elbow]

Absolute feast

[urban summit]

longer snippets where? of the entire album?

[fierce pond]

buy the album or legally stream it

or legally rip it from a streaming service you are currently paying for

[dim island]

rawfear, garbage, robot voices, one way might be in my favorites

[urban summit]

where are these longer snippets

[loud sluice]

i get goosebumps everytime i hear the ending man this sing is insane

[dim sun]

thats what i was thinking! its very much trench coded but they also sprinkle in a lot of essence from the other albums as well

[dim island]

dude i am filled with something hearing these snippets and this song idk what it is but its something

[urban summit]

where are the snippets

[fierce pond]

#announcements

[magic wadi]

https://x.com/TylerOnceSaid/status/1957503819782201621

̶tyler joseph once said - owner of robot voices. (@TylerOnceSaid) ...

the way they are going through every song on breach and giving us teasers. #drumshow

X · Aug 18, 2025, 6:04 PM

[robust bone]

This is one of their heaviest songs ever, if not THE heaviest. Im in love omfg

[dim island]

days lie dormant is definitely a RAB demo

[random pivot]

please god don’t let this be the only heavy songs on breach

[loud sluice]

days lie dormant is gonna be in my fav

[dim island]

RAWFEAR might go in who knows

[magic wadi]

damn is there anyway to go and watch the premeire countdown?

[dim island]

people put it out there

[last solar]

Oh I went to pee when I saw the countdown

[magic wadi]

So we have lyrics for Intentions "You...will" I think?

[blazing breach]

taking inventory of his life, seeing snapshots chronologically inline

city walls music video in a nutshell

[stone nova]

@muted axle IT SHOWS AS 3:23 ON SPOTIFY YOU WIN

[tawny wigeon]

still can’t get over how good that was

[dim island]

dude josh to the heavy breakdown SCREAM IS SO GOOD

[urban nacelle]

Idc what anyone says, cottonwood is my song. I'm claiming it

[untold granite]

Breach is trench 2 fr

[rapid nest]

i wonder why theres no more title cards for music videos

[tawny wigeon]

i preferred that to the contract ngl

[thin copper]

i disagree
i wouldn't even say it's better, it's just so different

[shadow mirage]

guys am I crazy? I’ve already listened like 10 times to the song

[dim island]

thats not enough tbh

[tawny wigeon]

don’t worry i have to

[untold granite]

Drum show is really good honestly think its better than the contract

[tawny wigeon]

it is way better tbh

[shadow mirage]

im so fucking proud to be part of this band and this fanbase its giving me so much happiness idk how I would be psichologicaly rn if I didn’t find out about this band

[ebon bloom]

Dare I say one of Marks best videos cause

[last solar]

I’ve heard it three times and I’ve cried three times… it’s so sad to me. Like next semester… I have to digest it before I can listen to it more

[obtuse sky]

Really miss those

[rapid nest]

YOO SAME COLORIST AS PALADIN MV (company 3)

[stark pebble]

hey leak theories im back

[tawny wigeon]

is this drum show

[rapid nest]

yeah, the same company that did the coloring in paladin did drum shows coloring

[stark pebble]

3rd best song they've ever made tbh
sonically my favourite song, lyrically it's a lot lower but overall it's my 3rd fav, after addict with a pen and next semester

[tawny wigeon]

one of the best easily

[stark pebble]

now all i wanna know is what the title that they gave the insiders was

[shell shard]

lyrics r so weird

[sharp crow]

Ohhh that's what this song reminded me of...

[oblique goblet]

Save is the best song Tyler ever made idc

[sharp crow]

Oh it's unbelievable how good that song is

[oblique goblet]

Save alternative version my baby

[urban summit]

it reminds me of hi im ready to die a lot (niche song but around 2:30ish)

[hasty escarp]

alright I know they said it’s not a lore song
but the torchbearer is a bishop theory is coming to my mind because Josh is singing
“Ive been this way, I want to change” and it instantly just reminded of it..

[oblique goblet]

Contract is more original

[tawny wigeon]

contract is not as good as drum show

[random pivot]

i love the contract but holy shit this song is insane

[jolly oyster]

Yeah and you just wasted so much water doing that

[prime sparrow]

AYO, NAH

[rapid nest]

both are 10/10

sorry

[hasty escarp]

I agree

[tawny wigeon]

both are good but drum show is more my vibe ig

[random pivot]

fuck the contract haters tho the contract is top 3 top lead singles and it is not top 3

[oblique goblet]

Drum show 9.6, Contract 9.8

[obtuse sky]

That’s a no no

[hasty escarp]

the contract 9.5
drum show 10

[oblique goblet]

Reverse dis

[jolly oyster]

Drum show 5 /j

[random pivot]

i love how drum show and the contract both got this heavy emo/metalcore feel i wish they had explored this sound earlier

[sharp crow]

Least obvious ragebait

[hasty escarp]

it’s like an alt nu metal

[tawny wigeon]

the screams on both

[prime sparrow]

can anyone of yall provide me the address of these 107 people?

I am in a very friendly mood nd wanna socialize with em..

[rapid nest]

can i say this. this is the most alternative sounding album they ever did so far

[hasty escarp]

the craziest part is this was filmed in just a car park garage

[rapid nest]

okay single 3 when..../j

[prime sparrow]

😔

[oblique goblet]

Better be tomorrow

[prime sparrow]

24 DAYS

[rapid nest]

did anything happen today /j

[gritty yoke]

No nothing much

[prime sparrow]

pls give me a leak u promised, where is drum show??

[stark pebble]

sorry guys i'm not the biggest fan of the contract, still a good 8/10 but drum show is far far more my style

breach is gonna be so so good🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲

[fierce pond]

“i just wanna talk to them”

[lament pendant]

Prediction on single 3 - likely the week of the listening parties but earlier in the week.

[devout igloo]

The contract still sounds good to me but drum show is even better

[hoary field]

At the risk of sounding parasocial, can anyone else not help but think of that “drum contract” Josh’s parents made him sign when listening to Drum Show?

[stark pebble]

i believe it's gonna release the day before breach

[lament pendant]

I disagree. I think it’ll be before the LP’s because releasing a single like that before breach but after the LP’s just kinda…idk not that everyone will be at the LP’s but I feel it would kill some of the hype for that single.

[dull marsh]

They said it’s not a lore video, not a lore song

[hasty escarp]

new pfp lmfao

[ebon bloom]

https://x.com/tourclancy/status/1957515221062529383?s=46&t=zQt85CUdx9cO6JiJTRsUlQ

tyler & robin ⊬ (@tourclancy)

I-

X · Aug 18, 2025, 6:49 PM

[oblique goblet]

I never heard of that, what was the contract?

[hoary field]

When Josh started playing drums, his parents made him sign a contract with them that said he’d keep up with his responsibilities and their expectations for him, or his drums would be taken away

[magic wadi]

I'm glad we're only getting 2 singles. I like listening to an album as fresh as possible

[oblique goblet]

Why do they sound like bishops 💀

[magic wadi]

assuming we aren't getting another single

[hoary field]

Josh’s parents are Nova Bishop??!?!?!? 🤯

[oblique goblet]

we figured it out 😭

[stiff fable]

Bro where is this from

[ebon bloom]

No clue I’m seeing it pop up everywhere 😭

[sharp crow]

I also love that it's "now they have to let you out of your cage" as in a drum cage

[thin copper]

this song sounds so different from Clancy in a lot of ways DAMN

[vast cradle]

fr these singles have me fully convinced navigating was initially meant for Breach

[random pivot]

thats city walls we are still missing robot voices

[vast cradle]

Early september im thinking for Robot voices

the week before breach like with The Craving and Saturday

[stark pebble]

i thought city walls is day of breach?

[vast cradle]

yeah it is

[thin copper]

yeah City Walls' MV releases with Breach (and is probably not a single)

I could see Robot Voices or whatever is the 3rd single releasing a week or two before Breach

[tawny wigeon]

city walls is the 2nd most expensive MV of the DECADE

[dusky breach]

????

[rapid nest]

whats the 1st

[tawny wigeon]

yep, cost 1million

[thin copper]

1 million $ ffs
that's a huge amount for a music video

[dusky breach]

Where did you find the info???

[lethal ibex]

Tyler said it on the bbc radio interview

[tawny wigeon]

something by coldplay apparently

[tawny wigeon]

tyler said it

[atomic blaze]

Wouldn’t be suprised if some of that came out their own pockets since *** hates them

[magic wadi]

guys I haven't watched the video yet. Does Josh drum in the Oval office?

[keen bison]

Sadly not

[tawny wigeon]

ngl i think the label paid for it all. atlantic records probably, which is making me wonder if they’d truly leave a label that is willing to put up 1million for a single video. it’s incredibly rare for ANY artist to do this, taylor swift doesn’t even do that shit

[thin copper]

shows how much they genuinely love their art (and the clique)

[lethal ibex]

And us

[tawny wigeon]

exactly, they truly care about us and how we will experience the ending

[prime sparrow]

wish they visit asia..

[atomic blaze]

also awesome we got two great MVs leading up to it too

[manic kettle]

Imagine robot voices begin or end with migraine intro

[random pivot]

that’s what i said

[random pivot]

they were talking about third single (robot voices) and you replied saying it drops on album release so i replied that city walls drops on album release not third single

[stark pebble]

sorry i misunderstood the conversation earlier

[thin copper]

well, he said "the day before Breach"

[random pivot]

btw was it only me that noticed they kinda confirmed that the guy who spotted them recording on the tear in my heart location was real since they said they were recreating old music videos for city walls

[fresh quiver]

oh so we’re going WAY back

prolly why they had that huge months of silence they’ve been location hopping to all these places 😭😭

[hasty escarp]

whats the odds will smith invited them back to trench

[random pivot]

idk you tell me tyler you should know

[hasty escarp]

let me ask Josh im still in dema

[muted axle]

will smith kinda fell off i think they'd be better off just breaking in onto his property

[keen bison]

WAIT HOLD ON

I HAD A THOUGHT
WHAT IF THE OLD MVS GET EDITED WITH THE NEW SHOTS?

[shadow mirage]

Yo I think we should invite them to play some baseball. Ill grab some bats.

[prime sparrow]

me too..

[hasty escarp]

or what if
they repeat the cycle and at the end break into the city walls and boom murder nico

if they are recording old locations
repeating the cycle would be the most probable scenario

[oblique goblet]

Not sure what u mean

[hasty escarp]

they are recording at old locations

[keen bison]

Also, how do we know they're filming in old locations, again?

[hasty escarp]

what if city walls is Clancy repeating the cycle once again since nico obviously captured bro

[last cove]

the newest interview, they talked about recreating scenes from old music videos

[hasty escarp]

someone spotted them filming at the tear in my heart location and the newest interview they mentioned it

[tawny wigeon]

im so hyped to see them recreate old mvs

[hasty escarp]

same

[rapid nest]

breach

albumoftheyear 2025.

[keen bison]

1 MILLION DOLLARS FOR AN MV???

[prime sparrow]

where can I find all the recent tyler interviews?

[keen bison]

OH THIS IS GONNA BE FUCKING AMAZING.

[sacred apex]

Tyler scream

[sacred apex]

1 MILLION DOLLARS FOR A MV

[lament pendant]

wait is the 1 million dollar MV for city walls?

[sacred apex]

Idk

[last cove]

yeah

[lament pendant]

At least I’d assume it is-

[rapid nest]

https://twitter.com/PoppedNews/status/1957508939324748039

Popped🍿| Film and TV News (@PoppedNews)

The music video for Twenty One Pilots’ “City Walls,” off their upcoming album ‘BREACH,’ cost $1M to produce.

This marks the second most expensive music video of the decade.

(via: @BBCR1)

X · Aug 18, 2025, 6:24 PM

[random pivot]

one million dollars and they re recorded old mvs and we have proof of tear in my heart being one of them? this video is gonna be so insane

could this be their way of confirming what vids in other albums previous to trench are lore?

[rapid nest]

city walls is gonna be fucking awesome.

[queen hornet]

then which one is the most expensive?

[rapid nest]

iirc a one direction mv

[stark pebble]

its coldplay

[rapid nest]

ooh

[untold granite]

Is there a specific space here to talk about a ticket I want to sell its for the LA show for tøp

[stark pebble]

probably the show channel, but there is a subreddit for twenty one pilots tickets (r/toptickets)

[untold granite]

Thanks!

[tawny wigeon]

freaking insane

[nova bough]

Im glad that i havent hesitated this time, I missed the black red Breach vinyl

[stark pebble]

wow i am so glad i got the boxset before it was announced

[sharp crow]

Us still has them

[craggy lava]

I don’t need the other boxsets please tell me I don’t need them

[lament pendant]

the only thing different is the id card thingy and the colorway tbh

[rapid nest]

im getting dark clancy

question, im in turkey, which store would be best to use?

[stark pebble]

i'm not 100% on this but id feel eu would have cheapest shipping

[lament pendant]

Definitely the eu store I feel like

[visual creek]

Get them

[visual creek]

Check France store just in case

[tawny wigeon]

i got dark clancy before i found out there was a discount code 😭

[lament pendant]

there was a discount code

[stark pebble]

THERE WAS???

[tawny wigeon]

apparently 😭

[lament pendant]

No wayyy 😭

[stark pebble]

holy shit

[tawny wigeon]

wtf 😭 why is ur shipping so expensive

[lament pendant]

Are you getting the nova bishop or dark Clancy?

[rapid nest]

nova, dark clancy out of stokc

[stark pebble]

my shipping was £4.99 i feel so bad

[dim island]

We do?

[rapid nest]

mfw when you not live in a first world country

[stark pebble]

i said this and immediately went into an allergic reaction
like for no reason

[tawny wigeon]

same

[rapid nest]

okay the import fee is apperently 60 dollars

[fleet arch]

What is the TIMH proof? Is it just because he wore the shirt during the “An Evening with TØP?”

[rapid nest]

i love my country

[last cove]

no proof, someone claimed that someone in chinatown saw them filming there, i really doubted it back then, but maybe it has more credit now? still far from proof

[sharp crow]

HUH?? EJAT WAS IS?

[limber hatch]

which boxset is prettier? black red or green?

[tawny wigeon]

TOP10 or smth

[oblique goblet]

Is that just in your country or everywhere…..

[stone hornet]

@rapid nest try US store

[tawny wigeon]

what the hell 😭

[lament pendant]

The shipping fees from the U.S. would be over 100 dollars rn anyway

[rapid nest]

its 15$

[stone hornet]

It's $15 international shipping

[sharp crow]

Someone put the wrong sleeve on in the picture 🙏😭

[tawny wigeon]

im guessing just my country

[nova bough]

@rapid nest maybe check the australian warner store too, maybe better chances price visely

[oblique goblet]

Where is u

[tawny wigeon]

i swear they better arrive in the same condition and quality. if not im RIOTING AND STORMING FBR HEADQUARTERS.

[rapid nest]

i know someone from Australia too

[lament pendant]

They’re likely wrapped and sealed so I think it’ll be okay

[tawny wigeon]

uk

[oblique goblet]

O_O

[lament pendant]

Not to mention their support is usually decent so if it does show up with the wrong sleeve center thingy I’m sure they could send you a replacement one if possible. Idk

[safe jacinth]

Got all 3 boxes bro, I’m so excited

[rapid nest]

its 121 aud

[tawny wigeon]

what the hell 😭

[safe jacinth]

Need them now.

[tawny wigeon]

me if i lived in an alternate universe and had unlimited money:

i only got dark clancy 😔

[rapid nest]

3k turkish liras

[oblique goblet]

I don’t really have the money to get any 😭

[fleet arch]

I’m unemployed and bought two

[sharp crow]

This CD color is just so beautiful

[oblique goblet]

Wtf 😭

[ebon bloom]

The Purple CD is what really sold me on the Dark Clancy box

[rapid nest]

BUYING DARK CLANCY YIPEEE

[lament pendant]

Well we got our purple album guys pack it up

[rapid nest]

im scared of the import fee more

[fleet arch]

If I didn’t already have the black Clancy box set, I would’ve bought the Dark Clancy variant.

[safe jacinth]

Sadly I lied, I’m buy the two other later this week, I pray they don’t sell out

[rapid nest]

wait how fast do they ship

[sharp crow]

EXACTLYYY I love that Nova Bishop velvet and color for the bandana but that CD is just 😫😫

[tawny wigeon]

they're shipping for september 12 ig?

[lament pendant]

NOT fast 😭

[tepid yacht]

What was the discount code and how big was the discount?

[lament pendant]

If they ship on September 12th I wouldn’t expect for around a month roughly. Took two weeks for me to get my BFX stuff and I’m IN the U.S. 😭

[rapid nest]

i mean something from Australia took 10 days when i got gift from a friend

[ebon bloom]

400K+ views on youtube in 2 hours

[nova bough]

So its more?

[safe jacinth]

There was a code?

[rapid nest]

drum show is literally so good

[lament pendant]

Depends on if they used expedited shipping or not and the pilots use standard usually

[rapid nest]

was standard

anyways i have to buy it tomorrow because its 11pm here rn and the banks are probably closed like to put money to my card

[lament pendant]

Eh, I remember seeing someone in a similar situation and it took 3 or so weeks so I’d just prepare for the worst case scenario.

[nova bough]

Seeing the boxsets name be like:

[rapid nest]

anyways yeah ty for ur help

[limber hatch]

is the discount voucher TOP10?

[lament pendant]

No

[tawny wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-mind-me-justin-smith-meme-stealing-hahaha-gif-13814973

[limber hatch]

what is it?

[lament pendant]

I don’t know, I don’t think there is one

[limber hatch]

i've seen ppl saying there is

[sharp crow]

Once my friend pays me back for the ticket, I can finally buy my tour outfit 😭😭🙏🙏🙏

[visual creek]

They removed the image lol

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 25!

[sharp crow]

CHLORINE??

[hasty escarp]

Chlorine headphonesssssss in the car

[proper kayak]

I just ordered the dark clancy edition for 56$ total with shipping from the american store. Meanwhile in the eu store it would have been like 70€ total. And i live in europe

[nova cosmos]

Im gonna be honest, the singles so far have been kinda mid 🙁

[proper kayak]

Also in the eu store the dark clancy was already soldout

[sharp crow]

Are we here in the same singles?

[blazing breach]

fun fact :
there is a sun symbol in the word ‘BREACH’ written with wingdings font

also, tyler made similar gestures with his hands in overcompensate video and during all the clancy era

[marble wasp]

😭

[nova cosmos]

Im one of the two people in the universe who thought paladin straight made sense as an ending. So idk.. like when Tyler said "does it sound like the end?" I said "yeah, it does." So im kinda mixed on the whole double album approach

[sharp crow]

I really hope the four stickers I get from the box set don't suck 😭😭 cuz like out of 24 stickers, there has to be some sucky ones right?

[hasty escarp]

could be a coincidence but thats sick

[rapid nest]

how?

[digital gyro]

Guys ik drum show came out a few hrs ago but I couldn't listen to it then cuz I couldn't use my phone in school, and I'm sure some of yall already said this, but drum show literally feels like a mix of every album they've done

[proper kayak]

It did not sound like the end. It even had a sound buildup as a cliffhanger

[hasty escarp]

if I rap or sing I usually just make the most random hand signs possible

[blazing breach]

yup
definitely a coincidence

[rapid nest]

genuinely when u see the end of paladin how does it make sense as a ending

[hasty escarp]

really cool thing to notice though!

[digital gyro]

The storytelling style of lyrics from st, regional at best style vocals and synths, vessel instruments and synths, blurryface structure and overall style, trench production, scaled and icys experimental style, and clancys production

[nova cosmos]

The ending was left open to interpretation, while not conclusive it allowed you to draw your own conclusion. I felt that was better than an actual definitive ending

[rapid nest]

nah not at all

[thin copper]

it was never meant to be the end and does not sound like an end

[rapid nest]

city walls is the end

not paladin

[hasty escarp]

city walls is the last thing we will physically see but who knows the songs on breach might give an insight on some things we missed or what happens next kinda like a update on Clancy

then thats the storyline over..

[nova cosmos]

Its easy to say that in retrospect after breach was announced. Im saying before any of that, i was comfortable with paladin being the ending

[proper kayak]

I see your point but right after I watched the end of paladin I slipped into 1 year of being delusional about when they are coming out with the double album. I was so sure its going to happen like the next month😆😆

[tawny wigeon]

paladin strait would not have been a good ending imo.. i get the debate of open to interpretation but i think it was TOO open. we needed something, we needed to show clancy truly trying to fight back

[thin copper]

it clearly just wasn't an end lol

[nova cosmos]

Fair enough

[thin copper]

Tyler said himself that the Clancy Tour is a flashback before the final battle

[hasty escarp]

it never made sense though
Tyler’s whole point of the storyline is
no matter how much times you go into depression (the cycle) there will always be a good way out in the end. It wouldn’t make sense by Clancy being defeated. Itll end in a good way where Clancy overcomes his fear and gets out of that cycle

[proper kayak]

Clancy deserves a happy finish!!!

[sharp crow]

My personal headcanon is Clancy is going to fall back into the cycle, And he's going to be somehow responsible for the people in the city being stuck, But we're going to see that although Clancy wasn't able to escape, there is still freedom from the cycle. The embers may be burning low, but that doesn't mean the fires out.

[thin copper]

i fear it won't be really a happy ending

[hasty escarp]

this is really possible i like what you did there

[sharp crow]

THATS why we need Intentions to show us that the ending isn't all bad.

[lament pendant]

I don’t expect a 100% happy ending but I don’t expect a depression filled dark ending either. I think a bittersweet style is likely.

[sharp crow]

I truly think the ending isn't going to be happy, but it's not going to be hopeless either

[tawny wigeon]

agreed

[lament pendant]

I think the sweet part is Clancy and TB living in the end, the bitter part seems to be Clancy is going to become a bishop so he won’t have truly breached the walls and fully escaped dema. However this makes a lot of sense when it comes to the mental health analogy.

[hasty escarp]

Same, I should’ve worded it better
Itll be uh true reality (i cant describe it) kind of like
Clancy got out of it but what about everyone else in dema? so it’s good for him but people are still suffering

Almost like Clancy realises no matter what he does he can’t save EVERYBODY but he can save people and himself

[sharp crow]

To draw more connection to leave the city, I think Clancy is going to believe that his decision to join (or """overtake""") the bishops Is the only way he can survive.
In time he will leave the city, but for now, he will stay alive.

||I'm just making stuff up rn But I think it would be cool To draw parallels to Leave The City||

[rapid nest]

im gonna say that the production for city walls is gonna be insane

[hasty escarp]

I think the mv could possibly be 20 mins MAX with cutscenes

[lament pendant]

I don’t feel Clancy will escape dema. For example, dema is supposed to represent your mind in a sense, your consciousness in regards to your mental health. It’s the mental health part of your brain. I think Clancy escaping this would be like escaping mental health. The truth is, you can’t. There will ALWAYS be ups and downs. The best ending is Clancy becoming the main bishop and reforming the city from within, making it a better place. Just as you do with yourself in real life. You learn to accept your mental health and embrace it, growing and becoming a better person because of it.

[hasty escarp]

like the outside had that really long ned cult cutscene lmfao

[sharp crow]

Crazy ahh delulu theory tho is that intentions is a letter from Clancy begging the citizens and TB for forgiveness. Realizing his mistakes and How he failed them, And pleading with them to understand he had good intentions, but failed to actually help them 😵‍💫

[lament pendant]

Clancy will embrace the dark parts of mental health and grow from it. Just like we all can do. Push on through.

[sharp crow]

Shaking hands with the dark parts of my thoughts 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

[digital gyro]

Dude I js listened to the interview

[proper kayak]

Why do you think they are not coming to europe?
Because of family?
Because of FBR?
Because of money?

[lament pendant]

FBR.

[sharp crow]

Can you imagine going on two World tours back to back also? 😭😭 Like that would take its toll on you

[hasty escarp]

family. they need time with the kids

[lament pendant]

And they need a break tbh, just got done doing a world tour a few months ago. He needs a break. And I believe FBR is at fault for some of this…I don’t know how but I feel fbr’s greed and their pressure they put on Tyler and Josh has pushed them far beyond.

[hasty escarp]

AND tiredness.. they have been touring for more than a year

I personally don’t think fbr has to do with anything. They just wanna see the kids grow up yk it’s apart of life

[proper kayak]

Yeah but i feel like if its really the end of soo many years.. why would they do a world tour on clancy but not the true ending?

[digital gyro]

Dude the city walls mv is acc gonna go soooo hard

[granite monolith]

Out of curiosity, did we get any new lyrics from the breach snippets? Hard to make it out

[hasty escarp]

I really believe they will but not so soon

[digital gyro]

Im acc scared to watch it now, they've spent so much money and time into making it, AND tyler said he filmed scenes using old outfits...

[lament pendant]

If they do tour again I’m making a safe bet and making it late 2027.

[proper kayak]

Im gonna be there

And im gonna steal the drums

[ebon bloom]

https://x.com/topupdaters/status/1957548217270235650?s=46&t=zQt85CUdx9cO6JiJTRsUlQ

TØP Updates (@TOPUPDATERS)

'Drum Show' by @twentyonepilots is currently the #1 trending music video worldwide on YouTube!

X · Aug 18, 2025, 9:00 PM

[narrow reef]

i gotta be on like my 30th watch by now

[stone hornet]

Tf going on with the merch notifications @rapid nest

[keen bison]

holy shit guys

[tawny wigeon]

me trying to figure out what im looking at

[keen bison]

Sorry, was fucking around.

[lament pendant]

Likely someone scalping the rest of the vinyl bundles, OR they ran out of vinyls to supply the bundles.

[thin copper]

i think a bunch of reasons but FBR and personal/health reasons might be a part of it

Tyler said they wanted a period of uncertainty or smth like that? i don't recall the exact words

i still think it's weird that they're just not planning anything at all for Breach, not even in a year from now
well besides some festivals

[ionic mural]

what the boxsets are sold out i waited too long

[atomic blaze]

He also started the interview saying while they get a lot of unique life experiences they haven’t stopped to build a home, something to that effect. I think that’s basically the answer to why no world tour

[dull marsh]

So what do you think about lyrics of Drum Show? Lore song, kinda?

[lament pendant]

I don’t think it’s lore whatsoever I think it’s more of a Josh song.

[last cove]

Definitely not lore,
It's about josh, and like drumming on the steering wheel, and the power and feeling of music

basically car radio for josh

[lament pendant]

I also think it’s about Josh wanting to possibly do more than just drumming. Assuming in the future projects he might sing more too.

[dull marsh]

very true

[lament pendant]

Kinda referencing how he’s seen as “just the drummer” of the band more than anything else and wants to become even more involved at least in the oublic’s eyes.

[fleet arch]

From what I understand, Josh struggled with severe anxiety. It’s nice to see how he’s been overcoming those anxieties through each era. Drum Show really shows how he’s willing to get out of his comfort zone. It really seems to tie in with the whole theme of Clancy, which is fighting back against your anxiety and insecurities.

[visual creek]

Dark Clancy boxset sold out on French store now

[ebon bloom]

How often does iTunes updated its charts? Weird still not seeing Drum show on the alternative charts

[subtle mesa]

nova bishop scares me and heals me. maybe it rlly is abt cicles and how we interpret them anew/learn from them or even accept them if we cant break them in half after all.

[balmy smelt]

What if it shows Clancy back in the hds car but he’s just sitting there and Josh is nowhere to be seen on the road

[fleet arch]

Fake friend moment.

I also liked the theory that if it loops back to HSD, instead of Blurryface/Nico driving, it’s Torchbearer.

[feral monolith]

It’s ska, sounds like a No Doubt song

I’m never gonna go back to the old merch, this era clears every other era in merch and it’s not remotely close

Hydrogen bomb vs. coughing baby

[granite monolith]

Actually so frustrating

The band know how insanely big they are, but had their merch completely sell out in what, 5 hours?

Whatever, I'll pick one up from a scalper in a few months

[ionic mural]

i was so 🤏 close to buying the boxsets on the USA sites, they’re still in stock there. And incl. shipping to europe, they’re a lot cheaper than the european ones 🤯

[granite monolith]

Wait fr?

[ionic mural]

they’re still in stock on the US site!

yeah crazy. converted to euros, 1 box via the American site including shipping to Europe was cheaper than a box on the European site excluding shipping

[granite monolith]

I hope they stay in stock for just a few more days

[atomic blaze]

Always happy to support smaller bands

[granite monolith]

But also... What in the name of god was the plan with that 😭

[ionic mural]

i don’t think they will, idk how hard they are going but i thought the same for europe. “i’ll buy them tomorrow idk” and they were sold out. but instead of ordering from US site, i’ll save my money and wait if there’s a cooler merch item

anyway i’ll receive a FPE cd and vinyl so no need to be sad i didn’t secure a boxset

[lofty pike]

WHAT????????? My brother and I were hoping to see if we could get one in a couple weeks—

Never been able to buy merch so I didn’t know they’d go that fast… we are in Costa Rica

[lament pendant]

Yeahhh that’s kinda the sad thing, honestly you might get lucky and there’ll be a good few left after the initial rush but we’ll have to see. For example the SAI box set is still there after 4 years…then again it’s 80 dollars 😭

[lofty pike]

Nvm. They’re no way we could afford it anyway

Man 😭😭 ugh

[atomic blaze]

They’re still all there in the US store

[smoky tangle]

WE GOT PURPLE, there you go guys, we actually got purple somewhere as a colour. This album is gonna be so fucking sweet, I cannot BELIEVE HOW GOOD DRUM SHOW IS!!!

i feel like all of us did not expect this song to be AS good as it is.

[thin copper]

i LOVE this song so much
it's like one of their best songs ever

[last cove]

I'll have to wait a bit to see when the recency wears off, but i think it might become my new favorite

it'll be top 5 at least

[edgy wolf]

I could see RAWFEAR, Robot Voices, or City Walls getting heavy at points.

[jolly oyster]

Does anyone have the two minute audio that played in the premiere with the extended snippets?

[edgy wolf]

Maybe even One Way.

[last cove]

@jolly oyster ^^

[jolly oyster]

Thank you so much

[edgy wolf]

Was I the only one who was thrown off by the falsetto in the City Walls snippet?

[last cove]

it almost sounds pitched up in a way, really interested to hear it in context

[oblique goblet]

Not just you hahaha

[jolly oyster]

I think they are to subvert expectations. When we heard the piano for drum show and then the beginning, they sounded nothing alike but in retrospect makes sense

[thin copper]

in my case it is not the recency it is literally what i hoped they'd do one day
it's literally a dream comes true

the screaming, Josh Dun fucking vocals in a studio record, the kinda punk/metal sound

[last cove]

it does combine everything great about TOP,
A hard hitting song with great bass and drums,
insane vocal range from tyler, with falsettos and screaming, with amazing vocals from josh,
relatable lyrics, and an emotional bridge
great production and synths
I'm so in love with this track

[thin copper]

i did not expect Drum Show to sound like that at all though I hoped

[thin copper]

they really outdone themselves

Clancy was good but this is another level i'm so sorry, i love when they experiment like that, i love how Tyler is experimenting more with his vocals even compared to Clancy
and the song just goes HARD

[thin copper]

and I listen to Clancy all the time even more than Trench

[edgy wolf]

Clancy had some far outside-the-box tracks like Vignette and Overcompensate, but Breach seems like every track will have that level of spunk.

I also think this record will hit the lightning in a bottle feeling that Trench had - it's definitely hit that so far.

[keen bison]

How many weeks until Breach, again?

[stable kestrel]

Is anybody able to read any of the box set ID cards? I can somewhat read “Unstable duality” on the Nova Bishop card

[thin copper]

3-4 weeks (approximately)

[keen bison]

Thank you.

[thin copper]

September 12th

[magic fjord]

id check out #1407063466258464800, a few of us have mostly complete transcriptions!

[upbeat sparrow]

Center Mass that guitar riff is amazing

[edgy wolf]

I didn't even realize it was a guitar til you pointed it out.

[upbeat sparrow]

I need that song now

[vagrant rapids]

Is this the one that plays before RAWFEAR and after The Contract?

[dim island]

That’s a guitar??

[edgy wolf]

Correct.

[vagrant rapids]

Super hyped to hear that the extended Downstairs snippet is definitely a reworked version of the Korea demo

It could still end up becoming something else but the first note that plays after the intro noises matches with it

[ebon bloom]

Drum Show #3 US ITunes and #1 alternative iTunes, the contract #6

[random pivot]

i was pretty sure that was a piano

[atomic blaze]

Bald-ass

[rapid nest]

?

[atomic blaze]

From today’s interview

[rapid nest]

yeah but its just his fade no?

[atomic blaze]

I assume he had to shave down for city walls

[rapid nest]

one million dollar mv

[random pivot]

im convinced his head won’t be bald for city walls

the lore won’t end with bald clancy since that would mean it’s not the end just for lore purposes clancy can’t end the lore bald

[atomic blaze]

Nah that’s bald

[random pivot]

you can basically see the line tho

[keen bison]

Not gonna lie, I hope they save City Walls' MV for release day.

[honest roost]

maybe he just touched up the fade lol

[atomic blaze]

Prob filmed out of sequence before snip snip

[random pivot]

check this again man it’s literally the same line

[atomic blaze]

Nah the back of his head is fuzzier in drum show

[errant onyx]

Wait a second, guys

Did we already talk about what Tyler said about the city walls mv

[atomic blaze]

Yeah a million dollars and refilming music videos. A (very expensive) cycle for sure

[honest roost]

gosh it must be so exhausting having a fanbase that’s examining your haircuts for timeline clues lmao (me included)

[random pivot]

then tyler kept us on a cliffhanger for nothing cause the story ends on another cycle

[errant onyx]

Because holy shit the callbacks

Wait do you guys think this MV is gonna be longer than the actual song or will the song be just as long as the MV

[random pivot]

a story about explicitly breaking a cycle ends restarting the cycle

[atomic blaze]

Wdym bro was bald when Nico choked him

[digital gyro]

fire

[errant onyx]

Not only that but my theory is Clancy is gonna catch it looping again and he's gonna change something before it plays out again

[random pivot]

i am assuming there will be a time skip in city walls tho

[errant onyx]

Like maybe he's got his long hair again but he's in the HDS car and instead of the hooded figure, it's TB

callback to the drum show MV if they do it that way

[honest roost]

what if the change is he wakes up and it was all a dream you know the classic cop out trope

[errant onyx]

I feel like they'd not wanna do that, it's too easy to do the whole "all in le head" trope

[honest roost]

ohhhh boooooo don’t downvote me im just bullshitting lmao

[random pivot]

cause there is no way they got time on one music video only to show us evil clancy becoming a bishop then clancy going back through old music video locations and also the fight that’s too much unless the vid is like 20 minutes long idk how all of that could play out and be a direct continuation from the paladin strait cliffhanger without a time skip stablishing a couple things

[atomic blaze]

5 filming days makes me think it’s atleast 10 minutes.

[random pivot]

thatd be cool ig

man i’m really wishing on my insides tyler didn’t shave man he looks so good with longer hair

[upbeat sparrow]

There is piano in the background but the main notes we hear I am pretty sure is an E guitar with reverb

[random pivot]

hope u are right cause i hope there is more guitar on the album

[upbeat sparrow]

The only example of the guitar I am talking about is on "Surreal" by Flawed Mangoes, right at the start of that song is very similar. Different notes and BPM tho

[errant onyx]

Okok wait

What the hell is a nova bishop

[edgy wolf]

It will definitely be longer than the song. Maybe even added breaks like The Outside.

[errant onyx]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking

BUT SERIOUSLY WHAT IS A NOVA BISHOP

ARE WE APPROACHING EVANGELION TERRITORY BECAUSE IM SCARED

[upbeat sparrow]

Full length movie

[edgy wolf]

What if City Walls is the longest track on the album?

[errant onyx]

We don't know the runtime yet do we

I mean it's 2 discs on the vinyl so it has to be at most an hour right

[lament pendant]

Nova means new in Latin so likely it means “new bishop”

[errant onyx]

Oh shit

[upbeat sparrow]

The cycle

[errant onyx]

AINT NO WAY THATS A THING

[edgy wolf]

As a huge Evangelion fan, I was also happy to find this.

[sharp hare]

Personally I think Clancy and Nico will fuse into one new person, the Nova Bishop. All signs are kinda pointing to this

[fresh quiver]

a second angel has hit the NERV

[errant onyx]

Or Nico takes in Clancy's power

[errant onyx]

I've found my banditos let's go

[marble wasp]

Hear me out
After clancy opens his eyes nico says You should bounce bounce bounce man come to the house man

[narrow reef]

There's so much piano in the new snippets omg

[keen bison]

I hope something lore-related happens tomorrow

[blazing breach]

for example?

[keen bison]

You know, bf tweet, more dmaorg stuff

[blazing breach]

i fear that dmaorg has accomplished its mission..

[keen bison]

I mean... we DID get the PS MV from that.

Or at least... the teaser.

[lofty pike]

Yes!

[sharp hare]

viktor nation

[keen bison]

Miguel O'Hara ass face

[sharp hare]

White Czech Miguel ig 💀

[blazing breach]

oh no viktor is seized....

[sharp hare]

GL ORIO USEVO LUT ION

[blazing breach]

kinda sad 😭 😭

[digital gyro]

cottonwoods piano has literally been stuck in my head all day fsr

[balmy smelt]

Vessel cd?

[magic fjord]

bot is now watching the spotify page for a change in the durations (pls come soon i beg)

[lofty lava]

Guys, I might have gotten a little carried away...

[fleet arch]

Ballin’ out here 😮‍💨

[prime sparrow]

one torchbearer set for me too pls..

[feral monolith]

Waiter…one dark Clancy set to go pls

[prime sparrow]

no water bearer set today? dang, bad luck..

[finite totem]

Thank you!!

[shadow mirage]

Oh yeah definetly I would like these songs i think.

I still can’t get over how good the song is

[azure umbra]

😭

[keen bison]

"City Walls" As if that one ISN'T going to fucking destroy me

[shadow mirage]

The video will destroy all of us

[keen bison]

YEAH

Wait what if the MVs are different because Josh isn't there.

[shadow mirage]

recreating old mvs? Thats crazy

[honest roost]

omg…….if they remade the old MVs navigating/my blood style and josh was never really there…………

[shadow mirage]

Btw drum show end with the drum solo and the synth is literally a perfect place to use drum island for.

[azure umbra]

drum show or the contract?

[azure umbra]

i think cottonwood is gonna be real sad too

[shadow mirage]

Drum show

[azure umbra]

i think drum show too but barely

[shadow mirage]

It has the synth x drum solo at the end which Josh could definetly do an drum island during that

[random pivot]

americans i’m just gonna say one thing yall are the ONLY ONES who get to experience breach tour… IF YALL MFS DONT MOSH PIT FOR DRUM SHOW….

[fleet arch]

I’m going to take a nice little nap.

[fierce pond]

another confirmed leak from your local insider 🔥

[tawny wigeon]

they better go hard for these shows. international crowds are always so much better than the US crowds bro

[lucid karma]

Old music videos in city walls trust

[tawny wigeon]

so they are restocking

that was fast

[proper kayak]

I feel like the end synth of drum show is influenced by porter robinsons synths. And he even posted that he likes his music

[ionic mural]

i think it was a false notification. the app is not working as it should, delay etc..

[tawny wigeon]

ah

[quick swan]

hey just curious, how did people find a drum show leak?

[gritty yoke]

russian radio

[quick swan]

oh how cool 😂
Thank you!

[granite monolith]

So it WAS Putin on a drum show!

Also that drum show cut on Spotify is TERRIFYING because garbage sounds very ballad like from the snippet

[shadow mirage]

Drum Show might be my favorite all time song by TOP not going to lie. As I’m more into the heavy metal side, this is really really good.

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 17!

[shadow mirage]

Also my fav song by them depends on how the day is going lol

[random pivot]

a lot of people won’t appreciate it cause it’s not a high cgi lore huge music video but this vid is amazing too

we are two for two in visuals so far for breach twenty one pilots photography nerds are eating so good

[shadow mirage]

Idk I kinda like the low budget vids more than the expensive and lore vids

Like Midwest was my favorite video from Clancy or ATROFD also

[magic fjord]

clany

[weary widget]

literally same

[smoky tangle]

I can't wait for visualizers trench ones we're wild

[magic fjord]

i don't think we're getting any tbh

idk what we're getting but at the very least i don't think itll be those

[random pivot]

i wish it is something like the trench visualizers that’s the best visualizers they’ve ever had

[loud sluice]

oh yeah dont forget yall to vote for music video award

[stiff fable]

What if we get ten music videos that were like the first My Blood one

just Tyler in his chair w a bass

[urban summit]

tyler synth island and josh drum island

[tawny wigeon]

THE CLANY TOUR 🔥

[loud sluice]

WAIT SINCE CITY WALLS WILL RECREATE OLD MV, MY THEORY IS THEY'LL HAVE LYRICS FROM OLD SONGS TOO

[tawny wigeon]

the new intentions snippet sounds so sad

[worthy dock]

Mild controversial opinion: I dont think Tyler wrote Drum Show for Josh as I see claimed. I think it is just a coincidence that the song is called Drum Show and the band has a drummer in it. I think he may have had it in his mind about including Josh since he does play drums and maybe a little bit to do with him.. the song (taking Tyler and Josh) out of the picture ..just lyrically, is about the person behind the wheel, listening to music in the car and "putting on a drum show" by air drumming or tapping on the steering wheel. Maybe this is a mute point but im seeing ALL over social, comments like "omg he FINALLY wrote a song about his best friend.."

[tawny wigeon]

well in the interview they confirmed it was about josh

[random pivot]

yeah basically

[errant onyx]

Guys I'm stuck on which box set to get, I can't get all three obv, but what do you guys think? I'm stuck between the Clancy and TB one

[lament pendant]

I’d get the Clancy one as it seems to be selling out the fastest. I mean unless the TB colors are more your style that is.

[errant onyx]

Yeah I mean, the TB one is cool, I like the canvas texture but the Clancy one with the matte black is awesome

Also, one thing I did notice, Clancy and TB 's box sets have the card shown in full on the listing, albeit low res and mostly unreadable

The nova bishop one has the bottom half obscured by the poster... Potential hidden info?

[worthy dock]

If you are referring to the BBC interview, I just relistened to it, and I am missing where Tyler explicitly says he "wrote it about Josh". At the beginning the interviewer askes "is it totally dedicated to you?" and Josh answers saying "yes" but then goes into explaining the meaning of the song... being what I explained above.

[tawny wigeon]

is it totally dedicated to you, josh says yes, how does that not confirm its about him

i understand you can generalise the song and it can be about anyone, but it feels like the song was written to be about josh and for josh. everything down to the drumming, josh singing for the first time.

[random pivot]

i mean josh explicitly answering yes to a question asking if it’s about him it really doesn’t get more direct than that

[worthy dock]

He didnt say "yes" to the song being about him... he said yes to the song being dedicated

[random pivot]

there is a reason why the whole song is written in third person except for when josh sings

[worthy dock]

valid, didnt think of that. I guess I hear the 3rd person perspective more of about being anyone that feels that way -- about being in the car and driving home and listening to music for mental clarity. Seems very on the nose for the song to LITERALLY be describing what Josh does on his way home.... could be wrong. Again, I am just voicing my opinion... haha.

[loud sluice]

hei, song can have multiple interpretation

[weary widget]

Kitchen Sink time

[worthy dock]

I agree lol

[random pivot]

tbf that’s the way twenty one pilots usually write lyrics, open enough so most people can relate or take any interpretation they want aside from what the actual one might be

[loud sluice]

and the mv josh is air drumming

[tawny wigeon]

yeah ofc it can have multiple interpretations and at the end of the day the beauty of their music is being able to interpret it in a way you want to and you feel is right.

[random pivot]

isn’t it weird that we still haven’t seen what the people who got the first pressing editions will get (physically i mean) like we don’t have pics or anything

[weary widget]

but so far I agree that Josh is inspiration for the song, not just the person it was dedicated to
if someone sees it differently - it's fine
it's very nice that it's relatable to those who go through similar stuff at the end of the day

[tawny wigeon]

true

[worthy dock]

https://tenor.com/view/i'll-let-myself-out-done-i'm-done-fml-over-it-gif-6631781278734333636

[nova bough]

Track lengths when?

[thin copper]

omg true we didn't get them wtf??

[nova bough]

I think we did not

[thin copper]

no no we did not

[nova bough]

But I think the track lengths will be around Clancy track lengths

[tawny wigeon]

city walls will be 5min trust

[thin copper]

tho the latest Dema letter mentions 0:48 as time left or something like that, could be a clue (album length 48 minutes?)

[nova bough]

I bet its 6

[tawny wigeon]

could be

[edgy wolf]

I'm okay with Drum Show being the heaviest song on the record, but I do really REALLY hope it's not the only grunge song on the album.

[random pivot]

god please don’t let the contract and drum show be the only heavy songs on the album 😭

[edgy wolf]

With The Contract in mind, it does seem like Tyler's going heavier on his bass and guitars than he did for Clancy, but then a lot of the song snippets sound more mellow.

But those snippets could be misleading given Drum Show's snippet which told us nothing about 95% of the song.

[tawny wigeon]

snippets are misleading yh

[stone hornet]

I think we've had the heaviest two songs already

[tawny wigeon]

i can see rawfear being heavy

[stone hornet]

City walls will be orchestral imo

[loud sluice]

i can see city walls will be epic sounding

[edgy wolf]

RAWFEAR, Garbage, Downstairs and Robot Voices imo.

[tawny wigeon]

city walls already sounds epic

[edgy wolf]

I imagine it sounding a lot like Bandito.

[stone hornet]

Would be insane for an album opener I doubt it

[dire depot]

City Walls has to start with the Torchbearer Theme

[nova bough]

Is it confirmed that Drum Show is the heaviest?

[edgy wolf]

We don't know for sure.

[tawny wigeon]

its hard to judge the snippets

city walls being an epic, dramatic, orchestral song would be insane to open the album

[edgy wolf]

I think there's a reason why the opener hasn't been marketed as a single for the first time in TØP history.

Either it gives away too much of the story to be dropped before the album,

Or it's very different from past openers.

[tawny wigeon]

probably cause its the literal ending of the story but also cause i think it might not be a huge explosive, jumpsuit type song. i think its gonna open the album in a slower way but still huge and dramatic

[edgy wolf]

It could have a Jumpsuit-esque buildup, just deeper into the track.

[velvet lark]

I'd kill for City Walls to have Introvert (Little Simz) style build up, grand and big, but still capable of slipping between bombastic and loud to somber and gentle

[errant onyx]

Holy shit you're right wait

WAIT

[errant onyx]

I feel like we'll have a better understanding once the listening parties roll out, or a little before

[stone hornet]

Yeah we are 100% getting all the blurryface videos to wrap the lore up and establish the Nico = blurryface part

[errant onyx]

OH WAIT YOURE RIGHT THAT WAS A THING

Yeah no until otherwise confirmed I'm gonna go with that theory too

[jolly oyster]

Could we theoretically message a record store and ask how long the listening party is for putting it into our schedule and then we can get a vague length of the album?

I mean, they’ll most likely just tuck it at an hour and play within the hour so I don’t think we’d get anything concrete

[errant onyx]

Well I know for the listening party last year for Clancy, they "started" at noon or 1, depending on when it actually was, then they waited for like 30 mins then played the record after Josh's message

And Clancy is around 48 mins, no? I mean they didn't play out the whole song for paladin, but besides that small discrepancy we could get the whole thing

[stone hornet]

You can try I don't think they will know yet though

[errant onyx]

Yeah it's still too early for that, they might not even HAVE the album to play it yet since they just announced it like last week

[tawny wigeon]

they'll probably say smth like a couple hours

[errant onyx]

Yeah because there's doors opening for the actual event, then there's the wait before the record

[tawny wigeon]

oh they definitely havent got the album. that shit is on lockdown for sure, they do not want city walls leaking, let alone the whole album

[errant onyx]

Yeah I feel like it'll be a week to a few days before the actual events

[random pivot]

i don’t think robot voices will be heavy i see it being more like a midwest indigo like song but rawfear and downstairs will go crazy i just know it

[jolly oyster]

Tally sounded the Holding On To You tbh a little bit with the 1/4 synths stabs

[random pivot]

i do wish city walls is heavy at some point like a buildup

[summer mist]

slowmode test

[jolly oyster]

Tbh, I don’t want to city walls to be hard or heavy. I want a melancholy, hopeful track with some grunge but orchestral too. I know those two don’t go together but they could definitely make it work. I’ll be happy no matter what but a softer album open doesn’t make it a bad record

[lofty pike]

Yessss

[lofty pike]

I’d like a big build up in the end. I LOVE build ups.