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Yes ! But he never used one in live or in a mv before , but he probably use some jazz bass in trench and maybe other records too
no it is in fact the first time he has used it for a mv/performance
yesss i knew i wasnāt crazy lmaooooo
Haha š
hi any 
its a different one in the mv
tyler is the only person to have a skull on his desk and it's actually not a shock
like i am not shocked that he has a skull on his desk, other people sure, but tyler? nah
yeah, i think its a fender telecaster in the mv
Ha has a telecaster in the contract , we are talking about the (supposed) mv of drumshow š«”
On the first one he was the red telecaster guitar, and on the second one the red jazz bass
nope it is a bass in drum show the tele guitar was on the contract
ohhh i understand now lmaooo
monday 12 pm
tuesday 2 pm
wednesday 1 pm
thursday 10 am
today ???
Iām bored someone leak
warners tweet made me really excited
āreally start the funā
āon monday, everything will be clearā
like, all the pieces of the story will start to come together and form a complete picture?
i'm confused cuz Drum Show doesn't seem like a lore MV
Yep same
maybe thats their goal
but those announcements are very
very
disturbing?
this parking lot has 4 levels only
level 8 > level 1 > level 8
āevacuationā from yesterdays letter
evacuation elevator?
Imagine what they filmed in the garage actually isnāt even the drum show mv, thatās just where they did the teaser (mostly kidding??)
maybe so
but the latest teaser was also filmed from inside of the car they drove to the garage
i assume this mv will be semi-lore
or it will contain footages from hds mv
WAIT
could they use the hds mv footages that hasnt been shown to us???
I think itāll at LEAST be like RITN with lore refs, since we got the red tape on Tylerās side of the car.
Thereās HDS footage we havenāt seen?
like rough drafts of hds video
they clearly had different versions of the mv
Im getting really confused with this album and my HEAD HURTS
same
WHAT DO YOU MEAN KONDAY IT ALL BECOMES CLEAR ?! THEYLL JUST RELEASE A SINGLE
we at least know 818 -> 8/18
CLEAR MENTIONEDā¼ļø
yup
but its still could be something else
something lore related
If we get a teaser or anything cryptic... 1pm. Otherwise i think the letter rollout is going to continue until saturday ready for release of the single
honestly i really like this idea
LITERALLY WHAT.
it's so sus there has to be smth else going on with this MV
Silence has been crazy. I think we're about to be blown away with a flood of new info
a Breach in the realities? (lol)
The rollout is crazy, just for this single??? Thereās no way itās just a song, like š
This is the end of everything. So like something big big big is coming
and i'll add that the fake livestream had this eerie creepy aesthetic + the latest teaser from the band's account
it could just be the aesthetic but it's sus nonetheless
combine that with the letter and the Warner Poland tweet, it's very weird
I wonder if Tyler knew the cult-like following this storyline would generate cause i mean not only did they have to work to get a few of the biggest songs of the millenium, they've made a storyline which has such a huge following unlike anything ive ever seen
Yeah for sure
eerie creepy aesthetic i mean like the TV static stuff (and also kinda the "seems to be spying on them" stuff)
Yess
Geniuses
do you think clancy cover foreshadowes one of the mvs?
tb in the back with the fire behind him and clancy turning away, thats what the clancy cover feels like
actually good point
so it turns out that clancy is all alone on the cover
because overcompensate tb isnt real
i figured there was something off with cutout josh on the cover i knew where it was heading
I told my brother, what if every time we see Tyler in the MVs singing, separate from whatās happening lore wise (like in PS when heās on the cliff singing and playing uke) thatās actually post-breach Clancy telling the story of everything that happened.
Think about it, Clancy didnāt have the black painted hands throughout the story⦠only Tyler or TyClancy did. (Except we see it in overcompensate, but thatās when heās seizing a body in Dema, heās not physically there).
Meant to reply to a message with that but now i canāt find that message
i deleted a msg that's maybe why
Ohhh
the gradual return of blurryface signature things without any clear explanation definitely leads to a turning point in the plot
Yes Iām not saying thereās two Clancyās.
oh okay okay
its just interesting that in the contract mv, clancy appears in his own head wearing red socks and high boots
heavy fairly local reference
there is something still unresolved about how the lore seems to sometimes "leak" into the real world, or seems to co-exist as alternate realities
idk if i'm saying bs or if i am really onto smth
yup
i think the word ābreachā in this context could mean a break of the fourth wall
i created this world
to feel some control
desrtoy it if i want
intentions?
Blurryface during the BF era and during the concerts seems to exist in a sort of "real world" (though the concerts obviously could just be a kinda theatrical replay)
but we know the band exists in-universe? the whole SAI thing? (and the fact that BF also exists in-universe) and imo they already kinda breached the 4th wall with the SAI tours (the tour members were sent by Dema) OH and even the SAI livestream imo
Iām saying when it cuts away from lore scenes and is back to Tyler singing, itās him telling the story of what happened.
Like when heās sitting on the cliff in Paladin singing and playing ukulele, what if thatās him telling his story. Present day him or him at the end of the story (weāre just catching up to him) telling us the story of all that happened leading up to the end. And thatās why he had black hands, whereas Clancy doesnāt in the story (yet)
Dude im furious looking at my mailbox
My Google doc theory Iām writing is that Clancy + Nico actually become the Blurryface era Blurryface, like we see in Fairly Local.
Yessss
in reality, blurryface is part of tylers personality
in the story, he is a separate character
although i expect them to merge in clancys body one way or another
That last part is part of my theory! They merge and thatās how we get the BFX era Blurryface.
Thereās a lot more to the theory Iām writing tho, itās several pages long š
but see there is clearly an alternate/parallel reality thing
which would kinda make sense since Trench is a representation of Tyler's brain (+ what u just said)
wonder how much the actual plot will influence your theory š
yup
however, i still dont understand tylers intentions regarding clancy
there are too many hints that clancy will be overcome by darkness
even just this line always felt weird and seems to be breaking the fourth wall lol
why would Clancy talk about "creating this world" (since we know it's Clancy singing in OC)
there is something about this universe or the true nature of Clancy/Nico that we still don't know
intentions š
So Mojib said the video has been done for a while?? And FBR gives a crazy cryptic tease. There's no way Drum Show isn't lore I'm fully convinced
i kinda like ur theory
Iāve written a lot about why it could happen, how it could happen, and how it could place the BFX album after Breach. But Iāve written 8 pages so far and till havenāt gotten to the main point lol. Thereās just so much
the 3rd verse of redecorate also breaks the fourth wall imo
we know HDS is the last MV of the BF era and story-wise right before Trench (aka it's not really the beginning)
the album is very cyclical
i'm saying this cuz i thought about this and like actually it doesn't contradict your theory
that or robot voices drops with drum show
I think the teaser and the MV were made in the same place just for the sole reason Tyler was done up with the black paint and looked cunty
Does the letter say which escape attempt hds is?
Fairly Local is a big part of my theory as well!!
I'd love for a double single and I think there is a possibility but I think it's more likely that the cryptic teases and posts for Drum Show would indicate that Drum Show will be lore
I donāt think it did š¤
Also I keep thinking about how Cottonwood sounds really similar to Goner
Breach is the final album... everything seems to be coming back to BF
YESSSS OMG I INCLUDED THAT TOO
I still havnt registered the actual song names in my head.. the fake tracklist was way too good..
i mean the lyrics even include the word "gone" u can't make it more obvious
Because Iām wondering if every album so far has been in dema, if heās been there for years. Self-titled is the āaweā factor and of dema and vessel is realizing that he is being used (as a vessel of sorts) blurryface is further labeling those in charge, trench is breaking away, sai is be used again with one final attempt, Clancy is relapse and reflection, breach is breach the city
ive these thoughts about clancys plan of defeating nico
Like itās all being linked together
woa u have come a long way..
That was Tuesday lol. I still have sooooooo much to write š
I know itās snow in Fairly Local but we see this in The Contract too and I couldnāt help but think āwhat if itās actually⦠ashes???ā
God I really need to stop being lazy and write a thread because Taxi Cab is giving first escape attempt or getting stranded in trench and seeing the outside of the city for the first time, same with March to the sea. An annual assemblage and being told to not be amused by outside of the city and to stay in the line
I adore both of those songs so much and the biblical themes/faith in them. And I could definitely see Tyler connecting lore to them.
Also in MTTS, the alien spaceship. That represents God, but we know Josh is also the alien, and he is also TB, which is also a representation of God, which is also the alien spaceship. SO LIIIIKE
today marks 1 year since the clancy world tour
Yess š
Itās giving seeing torchbearer up on the hill in jumpsuit but because he is so brainwashed, itās literally so foreign to him what it is, like a spaceship
probably at 1-2 pm
I remember u starting with the headline..
LEVEL UP: You are now level 33!
but hey like
monday 12 am
tuesday 2 pm
wednesday 1 pm
thursday 10 am
friday 11 am ???
10, 11, 12, 1, 2
11??
yup
or 3 pm
or nothing
idk
Did they post yesterday I forget
Anything could happen today and absolutely nothing can happen at the same time
They didnāt post yesterday tho?
I hae started to feel like I will never be able to attend any concerts or breach concert if they really did a world tour next year..
they sent the letters
If they donāt weāre still happy
No but we got a headliner announcement (not from the band) and discovered the track length for drum show and then the letters
They donāt control the time of the post office lol
they could plan it anyway
We found it through someoneās TikTok they did not coerce a woman to post a tiktok at 10am
I feel you. Idk if Iāll ever get to go to any concert. Still praying so hard and trying my best to find a way but itās impossible
it just happened to coincide
would be surreal if we make it one day.. but I feel u have more chances, u can do it.. šŖš»
Methinks we'll get either one:
dmaorg.info update
or 2
Blurryface post.
Not as long as I live here, unfortunately. I had a miracle presented to me the other day. An inSANE one. But Iād need someone to get me through immigration and fly with me and I donāt have that. So the miracle was snatched away.
Please we need one of those (or both) 
Morning guys! Do we have any idea what's "ricochet" about yet?
Snap Back
probably drum show lyric
but again ricochet is used for physical objects exclusively so how would that connect
ricochet like the hit valve game/silly
imo its more likely to coincide with Dayglow being the opener
It could be a coincidence cause it would be weird for Tyler to put another persons song in something straight up lore
itās not just the action of bouncing back itās the whole action of throwing something an object and then the object ricocheting
Fair.
yeah
Clancy planning to go solo and acting on his own and it backfiring or ricocheting back into the direction Clancy didnāt want it to go.
begin with bullet, now add fire to the proof
They would not use a lore letter to announce a headliner
Clancy was aiming for the bishops but his plan maybe ricocheted on the banditos/TB
either way it helps to hear these words bounce off of you
the softest echo could be enough for me to make it through
Just thinking outloud, this may be nonsense. But at this point, we all know there will be fire, right? Dema on fire? But Dema canāt burn cause itās cement, so trench will burn instead (we know it doesāthere was a Bandito camp burnt down at the Clancy FPE where we see that final scary Clancy letter).
Could ricochet relate to that? Like attempting to burn Dema but it ābounced backā and burnt down trench instead (that sounds stupid š)
We still have yet to figure out seldom surface and no kin 
Lyrics. Theyāre gonna be lyrics.
I was talking out my ass tbh I have no idea
Good morning, I did a LOT of digging and asking around yesterday.
You did NOT have to order the FPE cd/vinyl to get this letter, one person even said they havenāt placed an order since the MTV UNPLUGGED CAME OUT⦠wasnāt that SAI era??!!
So, donāt get your hopes up if you got
And Iām pretty sure ricochet is a lyric too. They always tease one to two word lyrics before an album, at least they did with SAI and Clancy
And blurryface
Holy cow SAI ERA š
I was dead pre blurryface
Iāve never been able to order anything so I wonāt get one sadly but thatās crazy
i've got like 3 things from their store every year since 2020 and i probably still wont get one š
its probably random
they just choose their hottest fans
and that isnt even a joke
I should just print one and put it on my wall to pretend I got one š
Hello gay people anything new
not yet
what bout a concert in europe or mexico?
Nope itās leaving and re entering Costa Rica thatās the problem. Iām a US citizen, not CR.
probably at 1-2 pm
but i doubt
what if they are gonna be silent again after drum show, i 9e29000000% doubt that
Apparently "everything will be clear on Monday" so ig we'll see
Literally a joke
oh.. yeah..
isn't there anyone here from CR? which might help you?
9e š
oh cmon
Nope, Iām chronically ill and have multiple conditions that will make it difficult for me to travel alone. Someone needs to fly with me and my parents donāt want it to be a stranger. But I have nobody here.
(This isnāt a leak topic asherrrr š)
what if ur parents join you?
https://x.com/warnermusic_pl/status/1956328167733387430?s=46&t=zQt85CUdx9cO6JiJTRsUlQ Poland mentionedš©
They canāt
okay sorry.. no more off topic XD
its so ominous
Itās ok š£ Iāve been crying over this on and off for weeks and even more so these last couple days cause a carrot was dangled in front of me just to be snatched away and it was the last thing i needed.
But yeah we can talk about this elsewhere.
ik I am just crying at the percentage u have presented..
yeah they are one of us lmao
Oh no.. corporations are become self aware ⦠itās joever
(no i don't mean account is fake its just they know about us)
CLEAR. LIKE. WDYM. It canāt confirm my Clear theory cause I didnāt even really believe in that one
No idk if thatās meant to be a clear reference. Probably not. But it is STRANGE. Itās just a single, what do you mean everything will be clear??
Perhaps it will explain the silence somehow.
OHHHHHH PLEASE that could be sick actually
perhaps
it will be clear.
now im just trying to stay quiet
Or even could tease the third single, which would be releasing rather soon (final week of August perhaps?)
robot voices? can see that
That would be GREAT
itād be kinda garbage
say that again
I believe weāll get single 3 before the LPs so by that Thursday which would be September 4th I believe
garbage is also track four...btw
Seriously though, I think this may be a pretty big lore related video due to the production company being Blesscode, plus the letter we received...
lp as in long play or listening party
Listening party.
get confused alot about it
We know the second single was likely to release early August and I doubt theyād delay the mailing of these letters so I kinda think these letters could be hinting towards something else perhaps ricochet has something to do with robot voices
https://x.com/bandito_tape/status/1956317368180785338?s=46&t=zQt85CUdx9cO6JiJTRsUlQ not sure if this was shared yet, my bad if it was!
yeah i sent it here earlier :)!! (actually not sure if i did but it was here earlier anyway)
Thank you for your serviceš«”
Anyone else see this?
was this today?
It was posted on Reddit today but not sure when the actual notification went out
nope
Looked on Reddit said they got it from Facebook itās likely not today.
it was like few weeks ago ?
Always the Facebook Clique.
yeah itās from weeks ago there was the dark clancy boxset and the torchbearer boxset
tickets? europe leg perhaps?
Interesting - missed that update. Guessing it'll come out when Drum Show comes out based on the Mojib message above.
Yep. Get your wallets ready for Monday š
its so funny to see yall getting ready everytime with ur wallet nd buy stuff regularly.. meanwhile it never even cross my mind to check the merch cause its well imprinted in my brain I cant buy anything..
i have like £90 in my account..... i guess i can live without the boxsets
i have money for one but i like clothing merch more
Iāll probably only get one
I'm waiting for the day to earn something finally.. nd then prolly have to save for a year before I could spend my money on anything..
yeah that's realššš
Whaaaaat
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To clarify, the "clear" remark is a lost-in-translation thing. In Polish original text, it is "wszystko bedzie wiadomo" - it means "all will be known". So it is not a reference to the song.
No yeah I figured, but still that's haunting
All will be known after the SECOND SINGLE?
Okay cool. BUT STILL, HOW FROM JUST A SINGLE
Exactly
Especially from a song called drum show, not throwing shade but THATS gonna be when all will be known?
Seems like we got nothing.
Not yet, not at noon
For top. Unlimited money
But maybe itāll explain the silence š I donāt know, IDK WHATS HAPPENING. Iām just so anxious.
I still hope itāll have a connection to Navigating. The progressions are so similar, but Drum Show is darker. Iām hoping it references or addresses the theme/reveal in Navigating, one way or another. Even if the MV is only like RITN.
Haha imagine they reveal the third single right after the second ahah
Imagine they just give us both on Monday
It could, they've done mv's where the lines are blurred between Dema and the real world so there could be something there
Iāll cry
The red tape on the car makes it feel like itāll at least be like RITN
Yeah that and the red lights in the cabin, makes me think of the eyes in the contract
I think this is different than āoh drum show is loreā I think weāre gonna get something else with it
Yes! That too
Yeah thereās gotta be something. Why would the release be this crazy if not?
HANG ON, Eliot opening the evacuation routes
What if it isn't for the bishops
What if it's for the rebels
Thatās what I thought it was
For some reason I feel that the letters donāt actually correspond to drum show, due to the Mojib message we know the single was supposed to likely come out early August but got delayed due to physical media issues. I feel that the letters were supposed to come this week regardless tbh.
I might be retelling old news idk
So perhaps they correspond to whatās next, the third single, the next step in lore, etc.
Eliot joined the rebellion. The back of the letter was a transcription of what Eliot was saying to the banditos I thought
Oooh ok yeah that makes sense as to why it's evidence
Ahh maybeā¦ā¦ hm. Does that mean maybe we could get the double single? š
As a double single delusional believer I would love that, however it probably doesnāt mean releasing at the same time I think it could mean it would release the following week after drum show.
I wonder if Mojibās message makes the silence streak less intentional
I think the plan was always August but the minor delay from early August to now was not intentional
Yeah
Ugh itās too still and quiet, please give us something today 
Actually technically they didnāt post anything yesterday either, people just received letters. So maybe we wonāt get a post or anything.
So comparing the piano bits of Drum Show to the snippet we got the other dayā¦..
I donāt expect much today
https://twitter.com/twentyonekate_/status/1956381992942964866 anbout the warner tweet i think?
@TOPSpainClique It's about contest to win entrance to listening party
I donāt think so
Ohā¦.welp guess we can debunk the Warner Poland tweet
Another reason I donāt think drum show is lore
people wont realise its nothing (the tweet) until they come here lol, no one is here
side note it's so funny seeing my own tweets here
We know youāre a big Twitter clikkie Vyl you canāt hide it
š ššš
vyl...big clique..
do yall think it is worth it to go to a listening party if i gotta take a 2 hours plane ride to get there
yeah twenty one pilots ads always worth it
as a avgeek yes i like plane
Uhh thatās a lot of money to spend to get to a listening partyā¦
yeah thatās the thing but tbh the plane tickets aināt that expensive
but money wise no
Honestly itās up to you, if you think itās worth it, then of course yes. But ultimately itās up to you.
yeah tbh itās more the fact that i would get to go there with my irl top group again n shit
i still think they're hiding smth with this single
I cant wait for monday.. what time it will gonna release actually?
i just think having us stuck in the same cliffhanger for a whole album cycle and then 3 months of the next one is crazy
if you think about it we have seen the same event happen 4 times
ps mv, the line mv (indirectly), the tour and now the contract
CLEAR?? CLEAR ON SETLIST CONFIRMED
LET ME BE CLEAR š£ļøš£ļøš£ļø
yall joking but remember when they had the our brains are sick but thatās okay posters on next semester mv and then they played fyo live
(i highly doubt warner POLAND has any info on the breach setlist)
i really hope they post today with another snippet, cause unless theyāre planning on posing on the weekend, we arenāt hearing from them until the single day
if they add clear to the setlist iām gonna go frickin crazy
i doubt we gon see anything till monday
i was kidding haha lemme dream
ooooh okay sorry
aet;kljh'
LETS GOOOOO
JOCALS
so josh is singing????
JOCALS?
OH WE ARE SO ON WHAT THE FUCKKKKKKKK
JOSH IS GONNA SING IN DRUM SHOW
Jocals on Drum Show?
I CANT
nadif source confirmed???? /jk
TB theme incoming
JOCALS????
JOSH WILL SING
holy peak
LEVEL UP: You are now level 29!
JOCALS
OH MY GOD
JOCALS IN A STUDIO RECORD AND NOT A LIVE RECORD
FINALLY :!!!!!!!!!!§§!§!:;../§§
IT'S HAPPENING
IT COMPLETELY MAKES SENSE EVEN WITHOUT THE LYRIC WHY THE SINGLE IS CALLED DRUM SHOW
im giggling
I HAD A FEELING/A HOPE BC OF THE NAME THAT IT'D BE ABOUT JOSH OR THAT HE'D SING IN IT
tyler you are out of the band
YIPPIE
it was about time
Josh training and putting vocals over time in live settings
the next step was him singing in a studio record
Do we think he sings in all of it? Because the mv set up has Tyler on the mic?
maybe background vocals or the bridge or a verse (but not at the beginning)
I dont think the whole thing,
but probably a substantial segment, or duet style like paladin strait/bandito
He did sing the high note in Saturday /j
we can finally get rid of Tyler
/j
/j now means /josh
hope it means a full verse from josh
song*
Perchance
sorry X but he is not relevant
BAHAHAHAHA
I JUST SAW YAY JOCALS
itās crazy cause itās prolly just going to be a random adlib and people will still go crazy
the adlib will be of tyler and josh will be singing the whole song trust
Exactly šāāļø
i still want tyler to sing thoā¦
We will be getting tyler in the rest of the songs it's fine
Unless tyler gets kicked out the band now
yeah butā¦
Itās him singing that line in the snippet
We already hear Ty in the snippet, if Josh truely is on the song itās not going to be an entire song long
Yeah, Iām curious how much weāll get. A bridge? A verse? A DUET
Could this fit into my Navigating/Drum Show theory
guys remember this is a BREACH of trust. Tyler probably gaslighting us yet again
he wouldn't lie about jocals š
Tyler hasnāt lied on his personal account during breach era he told us to stfu about the tracklist
He wouldnāt
JOCALS
Have we heard anything about Breach on their personal accounts yet?? I donāt think we have
He wrote the tracklist on a piece of paper
JOSH VOCALLS CONFIRMEDWTF
the tracklist?
Ohhh yeah I forgot that was on his personal account
so excited for monday 
itll be their first second single that hasnt been leaked since trench
Not even the weekend yet but I hope youāre right
shirt out of stock
im confident about that for some reason
still available in small and 2x ... does this have something to do with a leak?
nope - just wanted to show people if they are wondering if they got a notif from the merch app lol
Change in merch typically signals movement but a one off doesnāt really mean much
Weāll probably see mad restocks come Monday and maybe even new items
not everything i say ever is a leak - please stop about that btw if u think that way
More than likely, considering they release merch with singles, Iād expect we might get the rumored box sets Monday
well...I mean...
nah not that rumored the boxsets i mean, they were real
And I also dont associate you with leaks lol -- your post was out of context IN the leaks channel...so I was simply asking.
okay but like literally not everything i say here ever is a leak, it can be a speculation or something that I think about dont take literally every single word i say as a leak i nean
I just added rumored as a word
ohhhh thats fair
They may have been scrapped
Tour merch maybe? 
This too, we donāt know.
oh rly? /j
please dont
If it made it to the point of being added to the site it means itās already been produced I feel
chat is that a leak? /j
But Iām down bad for dark Clancy I canāt believe Iām adding another variant to my list
Last minute things can affect these outcomes, we know that from the minor delay of drum show from earlier this month to he 18th.
Most likely but I don't think we are at a point where they are definite since we haven't heard about them for a couple weeks
that day was insane
Thatās true. The delay probably rearranged a ton of stuff
#pilots-discussion is this tough
Weāre talking about leaked product be so real
the dark clancy day i meant
#jannerdiscussion
Ultimately, the box sets could be delayed, could be scrapped, we donāt really know. Personally I think theyāll likely come out with drum show but weāll have to wait and see. I could see them being delayed till single three even.
Dont upvote that slur guys
i hope they dont get delayed or scrapped ššš
Eh, Iād rather them get delayed than scrapped
nah
Box sets will also likely be CD only -- no vinyl sets -- just an assumption though
cd in the big 25
Thatās how theyāve done it the past two times so I believe so.
theyāll be here monday trust
They will be announced next week most likely
is there anything next week do we think
I have a Clancy CD that will never be played lmao (the journal)
cds are the superior option here argue with the wall
Go ahead and log out for us
you tell us... oh wait... nvm
WE'RE GETTING JOSH SINGING LETS GO
JOCALLS?????
okay sure
I feel we may get more teasers next week, not every day but maybe
fuck vinyls all my homies collect cds jewel cases specifically fuck digipacks
when do we think is single 2
I think we get a quiet 2 weeks, then final single
18th august
the plural of vinyl is vinyl. š
sorry trent reznor
A quiet two weeks with this little time left would be very disappointing
Disappointment is what the band do best
i think that the final single will be robot voices
pre album single yeah
City Walls music video bet
nope - no more singles ever its the final single they will ever do /J
yeah but imo i think thatāll come on september 12
do we think theres gonna be a livestream again for breach
i wish
I could see a quiet two weeks if single 2 islore heavy. Usher in the new album and all that
usher? like the artist?
I WISH
I donāt expect silence anymore. I think weāll get single three at the end of August or the first few days of September so..
i think there will be some kind of event maybe a livestream (at least i wish/hope)
usher is on breach? weird feature but okayā¦
If thereās one thing I like about this band, itās that they donāt really do features.
After the label heard the jocals they decided to let Tyler go. Usher is now co-lead singer with Josh because he can also dance really good and thatās always fun.
really? they never did i think ever no
i wouldnāt mind them doing features tho icl
They let their own music speak for itself in the sense they let themselves be the performer. Not that I dislike features I do like them it just seems like most albums seem to always have SOME sort of feature and I kinda like albums that have only maybe one or none.
drum 4 letters
josh 4 letters
is this lore
jocals 6 letters europe 6 letters breach tour europe confirmed
Regional at best has a couple
jocals 6 letters voices has 6 robot voices next single
realistically i donāt think single 2 will be lore
Josh Drum is his full name as well
They're all going to be lore, absolutely confident in this fact. Anyway it's called single 3
josh drum on the duns?
I donāt see two consecutive singles being non-lore
if drum show is single 3, then what was single 2?
the contract was lore
I mean it happened with Clancy
Oh my bad I meant single 3 I misspoke. I think single 3 will need to be lore
oh bet
why wasnt vignette or backslide lore :c
i mean iād agree but we know single 3 is robot voices and idk if i see robot voices being a lore song
Honestly, now that Iām thinking, it could be the bridge with Josh singing āI want to changeā
Vignette is not a single nvm I know what you mean. It seems like a lore heavy song
backslide kinda breaks the fourth wall with the 2nd verse
wasnt backslide lore at first
i feel like they couldāve done something in clancy to have more lore mvs, maybe make them not as high budget like navigating
Vignette is lore adjacent
i dont really know why theres a hawk in that song lmao
apparently, the first version of mv was lore related
jocals š„
where does this info come from
iirc from mark
Mark said he grabbed a camera and shot around the land they did the digital remains video shoot in. They ended up pushing that idea to navigating
Hoping to get this for Breach.
ooh thatās cool
Pretty sure he didn't say Navigating reused the idea for Backslide's MV. He just said Backslide's video was just them wandering around a forest a bit and it was boring so they decided to change it
Theyre discussing the single after drum show which is number 3
where did he say this?
Reddit. I believe the Backslide MV being reused for Navigating is fan speculation based on the similarities of the ideas
He did. He said something along the lines of it morphing into navigating or using some of the ideas.
It was on his twitch but I couldnāt find the recorded video again
He was playing Harold halibut when he said it and was taking questions about mvās. Thats where he called the vessel in overcompensate a random citizen too
yea, Twitch, I remember now. I knew he said they used some of the ideas, the part that I think is fan speculation is the idea that the Backslide vid was originally lore
I think it was a similar concept but a non-lore version of it
I think mostly the roaming around and not the whole torchbearer isnāt real thing
Drum Show was finished right after the contract but Tyler decided they needed Jocals and remade the entire thing which caused the delay and all the silence /j
honestly i wouldnt be surprised if thats the case
iām just curious to how jocals will go down cause like iām equally as happy as i am kinda conflicted cause i still want tyler to be the main vocal on the song
could be layered vocals like paladinās live version, it could be that tyler does the hook and josh does the verses (or vice versa), or josh does a bridge section. which i think is most likely
It will probably just be harmonies like in MTV unplugged
i am happy they're experimenting with stuff
it's a breath of fresh air
we are so close to drum show i canāt believe it
yeah, letting josh into the limelight more and more is something iāve wanted for a while. a lot of people still disregard him as essentially a tour drummer when heās still an integral part of the band.
if jocals are truly real then iām incredibly hyped
same
I'm already constantly singing the little ''putting on a drum show'' lmao

sameee
since when ppl considering ur words as leak ashley? only thing ik bout u other than being here is ur activity on AOTY..
Jumbaco is back??
breach of fresh air u mean?
oh does that mean josh leads the marketting team nd without him nothing gets dun on socials?
putting on a jumpsuit..
upvote this msg if you think the song will be leaked before its release,
and downvote if you don't
jocals will always be background vocals
considering up nd downvotes as electron spins, now tell which atom the reactions might be representing..
Itās not gonna be intensive jocals because my man actually has to drum to make it a drum show
jocals giving me the same energy as jhoints..
(jhoints= jhou points, in f1 last season)
i like that tyler can cause chaos with a single tweet containing just one word
I hope not, I'm hoping he sings lead on at least one section
Saddest thing ever said in this server
wrong, josh has the most amazing backing pipes
True but if man can sing lead, he should. No one should be limited to a section of a song
his ability to harmonise is second to none and that isnt close to a bad thing, being lead singer is just a whole other skill
He does do good on backing vocals, I do agree. Iām wondering if heāll sing the bridge section
I think previously Josh said he used to be uncomfortable with singing?
yeah but we've watched him overcome alot of his anxieties throughout these past few album cycles. seems like he wants to change and is pushing past comfort zones
What if "I've been this way, I want to change" is sung by Josh?
really just gonna confirm breach is josh's clancy
why do you think the song will be leaked?
Second single curse. Three albums in a row the second single has leaked.
goodbye loisbearer
hello chreach
idk if I'm going absolutely insane or if this is a funny laugh for y'all but Tyler Josephs camera quality makes me think the lyrics weren't
"putting on a drum show"
but instead is
"putting on a conch shell" šš
/j obviously
you put your ear to the conch shell
fast food greasy taco i love
frantic piano playing
NACHO BELL GRANDE CHEESY GORDITA
I LIKE YOUR NACHO'S LIKE-
were you expecting something
Let's hope for live drums on this song too. Which shouldn't be an issue considering a third of Clancy had live drums.
Any big news?
drum show will end this
Today, Warner Poland made a tweet hinting at more to come after Drum Show. Tyler also directly alluded towards Josh vocals.
Josh vocals???!!
What does "everything will be clear" mean?
mistranslation
#tyler "jocals" = fan term for "josh vocals". Posted at 1pm, the presumed release time of Drum Show on Monday. I would say it relates to Drum Show.
Still doesn't alter the meaning that much. It implies the single will wield information.
alters a lot
it's just hints to more content with the 2nd single
I canāt believe we are finally getting the second single in 3 days
Yes. Exactly what I thought. I didn't think it related to the single, I just thougt it refered to the speed of the rollout.
Either way it is still soemthing.
gotcha
honestly we don't need tweets from warner poland to understand that we've a lot to look forward to starting monday
To be fair with the silence we've had, it's assuring
What are we expecting from the tour? Will Overcompensate remain as the opener? The Contract? Or City Walls?
i think overcompensate. i remember reading somewhere (or i was dreaming but im certain) that tyler said it was the opener for the foreseeable future. i dont know where i saw this tho but it was a while ago
the contract > overcompensate
It's included in the tour ad which makes me think it will become a mainstay, like Jumpsuit or Heavydirtysoul.
like
night > day
Overcompensate into city walls i reckon
Any new developments? (Besides the jocals tweet)
I think the contract has to go into HDS
doubt it
he only thing iām sad about new single is that josh cut his hair
It's too perfect.
and too obvious
I don't understand that logic.
they're gonna surprise us a lot
JOSH VOCALS LETS GO
Iām at work but canāt focus since Tyler announced weāre having jocals š©
VALID
Weāve heard a version of the contract going straight into overcompensate with the live nation ad
we have?
i mean the contract is a new song and in order to do this one of those songs would have to be cut down and i doubt they wanna cut down one of the new songs
Anything today ?
cause like neither of those songs end with the breakbeat itās just a small part in hds and it is even smaller in the contract
jocals
josh vocals on drum show
Wait Josh vocals ?
tyler tweeted "jocals"
BETTTTTTTTTT
THE CLANCY TOUR: BREACH 2025
Tickets and info at https://signup.ticketmaster.com/twentyonepilots
SEP 18 - Cincinnati, OH @ TQL Stadium - SOLD OUT
SEP 20 - Toronto, ON @ Budweiser Stage - SOLD OUT
SEP 21 - Toronto, ON @ Budweiser Stage
SEP 23 - Milwaukee, WI @ American Family Insurance Amphitheater
SEP 24 - Tinley Park, IL @ Credit Union 1 Amphi...
Official transition by the band itself from The Contract into Overcompensate and idk why they did it for their tour announcement but it was right after The Contract came out
Which makes me think that they might open with the contract for tour and then transition into Overcompensate which would mean Tyler appears on stage first and then Josh comes it
hey leakers
i think it was just to confirm that overcompensate would be staying since itās still the clancy tour, i donāt think itās gonna be exactly that
Most likely but I like the idea of a soft opening with Tyler appearing first as usually Josh appears first on stage and then Tyler comes in
thatās fair
Hey
MAN i want ALL THE STEMS from Clancy so bad
was looking for leaks and found the overcompensate demo with paul meany singing the "sahlo folina" part
am i delulu
or their melodies are similar
You should put either drum show or morph in reverse and then compare. Just one of them. Cause they almost sound inverted of each other
why not both
but yeah they sound similar
Cause to me, morph sounded almost like drum show backwards. So I wanted to hear morph backwards to compare to drum show forwards haha
like actual songs?
No, just the piano snippets you sent!
what if i take drumless version of morph..
not a theory but morph played back is giving major āsomewhere I belongā by Linkin Park vibes
Methinks once the mail cycle is completed, we'll get more stuff.
drum show won't be leaked
i can't believe it
The first leakless album, holy shit.
insane
josh vocals in drum show is gonna be so good, unless jocals means something else
jackals
Then next thing you know, Loisbearer pops up again a day before the albums release and leaks the ENTIRETY of Breach.
How do we know it won't be leaked
Itās leaking the week before. That is inevitable but kinda by their own design thanks to listening parties
2 next days have the highest chance of a leak and it could easily happen
Would be funny if one of the Unspoken Rules⢠was phone confiscation
i'm starting to think a drum show leak might be on sunday if there is one
Considering there are record stores already doubling the price of the picture discs despite having rules, itās gonna come from a record store employee tbh
Barring that yeah someoneās sneaking in a phone for some shitty audio
Even more horrifying solution, them wearing a wire.
it won't happen
We assuming tomorrow (Saturday) will be silent like usual, orā¦ā¦.
Are we gonna take this whole ashes of the glorious gone = paint thing and paint the town š
saturday lyrics have never really led to anything but i think somethings gonna happen over the weekend. a premiere at most tho, nothing much
actually i dont think, im 100% sure. they havent told us the time it comes out yet
Someoneās gonna paint the town with leaks tomorrow
Whatās the point though
fr, its coming out in a bit over 2 days
Iām not leaking or hoping for that to happen
I hope not, I donāt want leaks.
But I also hope the noise streak isnāt broken!
This is very very veryyyy unlikely to happen but it just popped into my head. Imagine we got a premiere or something tomorrow and then an early release (or intentional āleakā) Sunday (which again, very unlikely and doesnāt happen). But the āmistakeā that happened last Sunday was so unexpected (I still donāt think it was a mistake) and Iām still holding on the the lyrics of Polarize for whatever reasons I have.
I know this wonāt happen, but Iām bored and Itās too quiet in here.
Here the thing we all thought The Contact was going get leaked at the last couple days before it came out but it didnāt. It probably be the same with Drum Show
I think theyāre being really good at not letting it and I hope it remains that way
I never expected The Contract to leak. Their first singles never leak
The second ones almost always do
This one seems different
could be, my point is that expecting this to leak is not the same, nor the same likelihood, as expecting The Contract to leak
True
have anybody noticed any similarity in torchbearer intro nd drum show piano stems?
@lofty pike @thin copper
Yes! My brother and I discussed this
nope.. never
It was actually my brother who brought it to my attention lol. He said the very beginning notes sounded like the TB theme
Could you share that?
LEVEL UP: You are now level 14!
oh wait.. I thought you were saying "yes my brother, you and I discussed this.."
XD
my bad..
Ohh hahaha
"Yes, my brother" lmao
ik now, I just read it all wrong at first.. my brain is heavy rn..
Wait is single 2 dropping local time?
probably gonna be a premiere early in the day
Itās okay!
Thereās no exact time set yet, right?
No, not yet.
iām gonna guess 12pm
I sure hope its not before 4pm CET 
Teaser video: 1pm
Tyler tweet: 1pm
Alternatively the livestream began at 12pm. But that basically says to me between 12 and 1, and I'm going with 1.
itās probably dropping at noon like the contract
if they drop signed cds and boxsets at the same time iām gonna scream. gonna have to lock in
Has there ever been a case they haven't dropped the same time as a teaser video?
i wonder if the ādark clancyā boxset will be teased in the Drum Show MV, or itāll act as a teaser for whatever happens next in the story.
because, before, i thought weād get a lore video that confirms the arc of clancy going down a dark path, and weād get that particular boxset after the fact.
idk i canāt think of a time they dropped the same time as the teaser either
perhaps. i do think theyāll drop boxsets and signed cds on monday tho. i also think drum show will be lore
well the contract dropped at 12EST while the teasers were at like 10
usually the premiere goes up exactly 24 hours before release though
yh
the only reason it might be different this time would be because tomorrow is sunday but who knows
the contract didnāt have a youtube premiere tho if i remember rightly
yeah it just dropped at 12
yeah but i dont see why drum show wouldnt given how theyve done most of the other stuff in this rollout
both of the streams had a premiere style countdown before them
i hope they do. i wonder if theyāll break their thing of nothing on weekends in order to promote drum show
they can do on-day premier too tho right?
yeah
well they posted one of the contract countdown teasers on a weekend iirc, so i donāt see it as too crazy to post the premiere on sunday
still canāt believe weāre getting a new song on monday š feels like an eternity since the contract
we are 1 month and 2 days away from the beginning of tour
so yes its been an eternity š
27 days left for breach
this song better go crazy istg š 9 week wait bruh
9 week
lore
drum show is lore trust
i seen people say josh dun vocals will make the song worse
whoever says that needs to be sent to dema
alot of albumoftheyear users
if anything it will probably be backing vocals, or tyler is trolling. idk how it would make it worse, josh has a great voice. itāll definitely sound strange at first cause of how weāre so used to just tylerās voice on their albums
his voice is good imo. he has a nice soft, majestic tone. i think it will be backing vocals tho
āwhat weāve heardā weāve heard essentially nothing like- š
they were talking about mtv ig
exactly š weāve not heard him on an actual studio record (not counting mtv unplugged)
it would be funny if he just says "josh dun" :D
but even then, those are meant to be soft backing harmonies for tyler to sing over, not LEAD vocals, ppl just crazy
putting on a drum show
with my friend josh dun (hi :D)
āhi im josh and this song is DUNā (badum tsh)
i think in general people are allergic to change
scaled and icy hate in big 2025 (not saying this to u)
lol
people hate scaled and icy alot because its different
i love how jolly josh dun is
for now from what we have heard josh has nice vocals for a backing track but idk if iād want those kind of vocals through a full song
but again i doubt itāll be through the whole thing
if it works for the song and is done well it could be good. i also donāt think itāll be main vocals, probably backing. ngl thereās a chance tyler just posted that as a joke
i think weāll get a bridge that josh will do some nice vocals over before a big outro. itāll be a nice place to have him shine without it feeling like heās just in the background for no reason
im all for jocals if they work in the context of the song
josh hopefully drumming his heart out + jocals this is my dream come true. shit bro if thereās electric guitar too? iāll explode
looks like itās a bass song idk if itāll have a lot of guitar
next semester also has the same kinda bass to it, and itās covered in ukeleles, so thereās a chance weāll get some more guitar i think
i think we'll get actual guitar
i still donāt know what to expect from the song. definitely heavy bass, but the contract surprised after it released despite having so many teasers. i think drum show will do the same
with how distorted the contract teasers were i was thinking we were gonna get an organ or some shit.
but then the first clean teaser came out and sounded super different, but in this case we have a good snippet of the core of the song i think.
the tracklist snippet and the new snippet really intrigue me tho. i really wonder how theyāre gonna mesh with extra production
also makes me wonder how ātrustworthyā the tracklist snippets are in terms of what the actual songs are like. because we would never have predicted this sort of vibe with the snippet we had already
ns has less distortion than this bass but yeah ig
im just hyped to have a new top song to repeat daily, the contracts time is over
we really know nothing
yeah i wonder if the piano snippet is a backing stem or thereās a piano section, some sort of bridge.
iām thinking itās a bridge, but also it could just be a stem that runs through the whole song
i love the mystery behind the songs tbh. makes it a nice surprise when it drops
sonically iām understanding the direction weāre heading in, but lyrically im a little lost.
we have āputting on a drum showā and āiāve been this way, i want to changeā
one lyric seems super tongue and cheek, and the other sounds like itās very introspective. makes me wonder what the concept/metaphor is for a ādrum showā outside of just⦠playing drums
Overcompensate and Next semester released same time as announced, though Backslide announced at 6pm, released at 3pm.
i think itāll make sense when we get the context of the song and what the theme is
Gonna miss these days of not knowing what the album sounds like or where the story is going and the anticipation of an albumšš gonna prolly be a while before we get to do this again
frr
i donāt expect to see a new top album in at least 4 years ngl š
2030 probably.
maybe theyāll release live albums a bit later after the era has ended, to keep the content flowing for as long as possible
for some reason i don't see tyler taking a break
i feel like the album after this will probably stay within the usual 3 year time thing
probably
the stem seems similar to tb theme..
i really do not hear it
me neither
its a different note played at a different tempo
most of them are just sound effects from the songs, it's like taking that little sfx at the start of the contract and using it as a snippet. they don't really give anything away at all
SAI as an album was different a lot, but it was a great and āfunā album, but damn, Icy Tour was so fricking good. No Chances sounded great, Message Man, The Outside, Lane Boy and all the other stuff with the full band. I would even say SAI era is Top 2 for me.
tyler knowing what jocals are is insane
Heās a lurker
dude is watching us
ehh
ig that alarm synth is used for a pre-chorus in drum show
he's also watching his account getting raided regularly..
further confirms he sees everything. theories, etc.
I feel like we havenāt unpacked everything in the dema letter
can anyone send me like the shit they give you at the breach listening parties
i donāt have photos but itās a wristband, alternate sleeve and a poster i think
where can i find pics
someone sent them a few days ago, iāll try and find
It's my favorite. It felt like an eras tour with all the different outfits and new renditions.
omg thank you twin
the sleeve is velvet as well
is it the one that has the new symbol
2 days until jocals... Im so excited
what are the guesses on what the new symbol is rn?
what symbol even is it?
yh
FUCK I just found the listening event thats local to me, and its sold out
Istg they actually forgot baltics exist
If they wouldn't tour here, atleast do a listening event
Sorry, you guys don't exist
nah, they will come next tour
i work for live nation and got all the dates /j
šÆ šÆ šÆ
šÆ Europe leg šÆ
šÆ on the Breach šÆ
šÆ tour šÆ
šÆ šÆ šÆ
god someone break the rules and record it plsplsplsplspls
Sold out? Mine they just said to walk in and show up
its different with each location, my local sold out within minutes. tickets were free but dont even guarantee entry
hoping one of them misses a single phone tbh
wdym
"best" case is you get the album a week early.. Im okay with waiting 7 days for it i hope they dont miss a phone
yeah maybe you are, but idk I like experiencing things when others do
im gonna try and avoid leaks. but ill probably end up giving in and listening to all leaks
Okay yall, I had a vision (dream) that drum show leaked in high quality and here are some lyrics I was able to scrap up from the drum
Putting on a drum show
break down
Thatās all I got
thats all i got goes hard
next semester!
Don't you guys think that they are trying to throw us off with the heavy bass? or do you think it will be as heavy as Navigating or Next Semester?
i hope so
I kinda feel this one can be similar to Shy Away
acc i hope they go even heavier in any of the songs like heavier than jumpsuit obviously not metal but something real heavy
i would love if they touch a bit of something similar to metal.
i kinda want them to dabble into metal inspirations tbh
the contract came somewhat close to nu metal they wore the linkin park inspiration in their sleeve
yesssss i was gonna say that lol
Well they are drum and bass mostly, so idk if we can really expect like heavy guitar riffs. But as sug4rx said, nu metal they can definetly do
Clancy was more pop-punk, maybe Breach will have more of a metal (or nu metal) inspiration? i'm not saying full-on metal songs but more like The Contract
I feel like Clancy was the heaviest album out of all.
Talking more about instrumentation.
EDIT : I will smash my screen because of that 30 second slowmode
patiently, waiting for the update..
Like everyone say Trench is the most-rock album from them, but Clancy got Next Semester, Midwest, Vignette, Navigating, ATROFD which easily fit into the rock genre. Trench (in my opinion) only got Jumpsuit, My Blood, Chlorine which could be put into rock.
do we think they're beating this for breach. personally, yes.
maybe Clancy was more pop-rock/pop-punk in general
nd trench was peak..
i feel like they are leaning more and more into pop-rock sounds for each album
Yeah, but i feel as an album it is the rock-iest out of all.
By the sound of The Contract and the sneak peek of Drum Show. Breach will be a darker and heavier album.
EDIT: My words will go down in history after we listen to Lavish-like songs on September 12th
idk if it was the "heaviest" in terms of sound, like there wasn't rly heavy rock songs, besides Next Semester sorta
hai leak chat :3
Navigating, ATROFD also I would say were heavy songs
anyone using qubuz here?
Navigating is way more synth rock than heavy. I hope it brings back the grunge that jumpsuit had as we havenāt heard that since
hello
i donāt really agree cause even in the most ambient slow songs in trench they still use those rock elements and use that prominent distorted bass on basically every song, cuts like cut my lip (unintended pun) are basically like imagining a rock band like paramore doing in this case a somewhat reggae song
qobuz * its kinda srs?
I know of it but donāt use it
why does no one use it lol
but ima agree in the sense that clancy is the most explicitly rock album they got
Well, I see Navigaing on the same level as Jumpsuit.
open.qobuz.com/track/347383690
if you want to try, here have drum show. dont know if it works or not, no idea. but u can try
Is Drum Show and Breach in general that heavy or are they trying to throw us off
Idk, if I would listen to Clancy and Trench one after another, I would say Clancy is more rock than Trench. But Jumpsuit def takes the number one spot with Navigating second and Next Semester third.
breach will be heavier but imo singles are always misleading, with maybe the exception of trench are SAI. clancy singles were all so different, and then the rest of the album was also very different
tbf clancy singles were so different because the album in general ( i donāt mean this in a bad way) is pretty disconnected so every song feels off from the previous one
Unavailable
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Shaking and crying I thought I had it for a second, I don't wanna wait another two dayssss
Does someone have a tidal link to the song ?
tidal isnt stupid sadly
Apple Music will be
WHAT
its there, but the song is set to private
oh shit big tyler post?
TYLER TWEET
Woof
fuck no world tour
What was the tweet
oh damn so it really IS just city walls next and thatās it
City walls third single Sept 12
No world tour
ok so drum show is not lore, city walls is next then intentions.
No breach tour, no tour for a long time, and it ends with city walls
WHAT
you jinxed it smhš
no europe tour :(((((
so Intentions IS an epilogue????
i really need people to video the concerts then caues i need to live through yall lol
I'm... Okay I don't want to say I'm disappointed. So I'm saying nothing. Just 1 lore related song though... Hhhhhh
this is the worst new i couldāve gotten today
IM ACTUALLY CRYING
Intentions he said is just his attempt to understanding the end of city walls
City walls in the end
oh fuck city walls is the end??
We are never getting an album as packed and tight as trench I'm so fucking sad about that
wym thereās no world tour bro im so sad
I think I need to buy another tour ticket because he said that really crazy
Thatās not true, they may do this for whatever story is next š
i'm actually so sad
no world tour š
i think they are burnt out
CITY WALLS IS THE END
bro wym i wont see them in 2026 are you joking what
Donāt know when theyāll ever tour again
And then intentions is an epilogue of sorts
me and my friend we're hoping to go to the tour together noooooš
so fans outside the US might not see them for years š
I mean sure, and maybe if it's stuck to one album it will be but... This was gonna be the big one. Maybe the rest will be like mini stories from trench but this is, effectively, a "here's my thoughts after the story" album. Wish it was portrayed as such from the start
i cant believe i might only see twenty one pilots 2 times, like ever
i canāt even focus on the lore shit wym thereās no world tour bro i wont see them in years now :(
dangggg
WHAT DO YOU MEAN CITY WALLS IS THE FINALE
yeah ''breach took everything i had left'' feels like there will be atleast a breather if not a break for a bit
chat, is this a leak? can anyone confirm?
dang im glad i saw them for clancy
Intentions is his interpretation of the ending oh cycle theoryā¦
They really could have just given us city walls last album and let this one be its own after the dust settles thing but noooo
ok so city walls is the ending and intentions is the interpretation/commentary on the ending?? holy
city walls is the end of the story
is rawfear the end of blurryface as the character?
shit man i love tyler
what does he mean by "the ending of THAT story"
second lore thing coming soon? (not soon but next album)
bro what š
What is this song choice for his instagram post
Iām sure he struggled with how to write the ending, along with the fact intentions is his interpretation of it means itās gonna be slightly open ended or up to interpretation.
ONLY ONE LORE MV š
100% intentions gonna be cut from the listening parties
He also said he wants the ending to feel like an ending, so idk. We'll see but god this whole thing has me way more on edge for the album and I wish it wasn't as hyped up to be this huge final battle
idk why this guy is mad about more music lol
Maybe after City Walls weāre just going back to pre-Blurryface
city walls is the end
september 12th is the end
no more clancy after that, and our last top tour for a while is breach tour....
idk this post seems like a farewell or something
i mean he's already said that in the past, yeah, they are potentially planning a new story
im happy that hes cleared up the silence, and that he is drained, which is understandable and i want them to take a considerable break
im rlly sad i might not see them on tour again for a while
this is the worst news for someone getting exam results in 5 days š terrified about everything now
That post is a rollercoaster I donāt know man
wait what how wdym city walls is the end ?
Bright side: We got our rare Saturday post
And I took the gamble of not going to the States and waiting for a breach tour in 2026 š
tyler said it in a new tweet
city walls is the last lore music video we will get for clancy's story and it drops with the album
Two full albums and a world tour in one year while also his son was born. Iām sure the guy just wants some sleep lol
tyler is clearly exhausted. and im ok if they need a break for a while
Yeah that's a roller coaster, I won't be able to see them this fall for the tour, but that's ok
So like... Is the contract and city walls it for dema music video stuff?
i just really hope they'll do a big world tour in a few years
they can take 2026-2027 as a break and do a tour after š š (i just miss my show i really wanna see them again)
theyre not dragging it out, city walls will be the end and thats fucking crazy to think about
sameā¦
Yes, music video wise
BUT I WAS RIGHT, CITY WALLS ENDS THE STORY
Wow so city walls is gonna be the end of the storyline
Yeah, my only hope can be that the rest explores like Clancy's perspective after it's all gone down with intentions being on city walls specifically
I mean, Iād rather they end it on a high note than beat a dead horse and drag it out.
kinda sad about that
Rip tb perspective theory tbh
only two lore MVs im breach then?? :(
And they give us a whole 12 songs to recover and process
yup
and city walls was the mv they shot last week
wow so, just one more song about the lore????
i really don't mean to sound selfish or anything, i live in the uk so i already have far more opportunities for shows, but i have 0 chance for breach tour, and theres so many others that won't be able to see them for many more years now
i do 100% appreciate them having a break, they need it
not necessarily, probably just MV wise
i thought he would decide to name one of the songs on the final album simply DEMA
but he chose a much more interesting title..
one more music video about the lore. intentions is his attempt at understanding the ending for example
Tyler: does this sound like the end?
Also Tyler: ok, so it was pretty much the end but hey
what theflip is intentions then š
epilogue i guess
its his attempt at understanding what happens in city walls
how did you even get that out of this he literally just told yall we havenāt seen the end
Wonder if that means Breach will be a introspective album about stuff more personal to Tyler like Snap Back, etc
LEVEL UP: You are now level 1!
he just said it is a song about the ending š
My guess though is it's Tyler after becoming the ruler of dema trying to piece together his intentions with the world he created, before deciding to let it go
destroy it
I saw them live in London, came all the way from the Baltics. Best night of my life. I saved up a lot of money to go to multiple shows next year. But hey, its not over, they still in their late 30s, some bands go to their 60s or 70s and they will definetly come back stronger and better. Lets take this break as a opportunity to hear some new music and see other artists live.
why do i think the ending is going to be a very very sad ending.
i don't know how to rly phrase it but basically i have a feeling that Breach is a return to no Dema stuff, basically telling its own story kinda
it's like, the void, just Tyler, Josh and maybe BF
very straightforward
at least it's what the cover makes me think + what Tyler just said
twenty one pilots its over
My first ever top show was Clancy and I won't see them again for years, no show for cbus either
Why do I want to cry itās not that serious lol
No "dema" anywhere
Thank you - Clancy ig
I just read what he posted
Or if itās a fourth wall break and his intentions when initially building the world compared to his current intentions and what he was trying to do with the story to help him and how it couldāve have ultimately made things worse with stress and logistics of it all
if the world ends right after breach drops, or even before, it can gladly say that i went to at least one twenty one pilots concert and i can die peacefully
"I'm Tyler, I tended to this fire"
yall are so dramatic just cause the city walls mv is the ending of the lore doesnāt mean the album is not lore what the fuck trench only has 3 lore mvs the thing im worried about the most is that i just saw them live for the first time this year after 10 years i was expecting to go with the same people again in 2026 and that experience was stripped away from me but yeah ig they need to rest
we will still have some festivals next year, as he said, so lets look out for them.
festivals are hype though i always enjoy them a lot
hoping that tylerās tweet means that they just need time to figure out what a twenty one pilots show without lore looks like again, we just have to be patient and thatās okay!
especially if they air them, though typically they only air them partially
and it will forever remain the best concert ive ever been to
I hope they don't shy away from the lore songs after the fact either tbh
say that again
This is a personal theory that I thought of, I wonder if āThe Contractā refers to the fans or the label saying there was an agreement that Clancy was the end of the lore/story but there was so much expectations and ādisappointmentā with the cliffhanger ending, and the label pushing for BF-era vibes due to the success of the Doubt demo. Wondered if the song was about how the fans or label broke āThe Contractā we had about the end
Soo City Walls is likely gonna be super emotional, Iām guessing?
we think this is the end, but fucking hell how much work we will have if they start a new story and we need to shape everything so it makes sense.
im ready to cry with intentions honestly
i'm not sure, we know that they planned an extension to Clancy even before Clancy released, it was just not yet a full-on standalone record
Clancy/Paladin Strait was never meant to be the end
I donāt know if Iām ready anymore
well looks like the extension is only 2 songs now
all i gotta say after all is just thank you twenty one pilots
i am so heartbroken
wonder if city walls was intended to be on Clancy but ran out of time
I was waiting for europe tour dates š¦ ive had a very stressful and sad year and this one thing that they are probably gonna come here again for at least one more time was something i was soo waiting for
all fun and games until Nico says "i always come back" in City Walls
Also only 1 music video that's not a single confirmed
I mean was obvious but man... No garbage mv sucks
i know its unlikely and i want them to rest but other than the festivals i hope they do small AEWTOP style shows every now and then in random locations
i kinda wanna cry i really wanted to see them live for breach
TOP going like Metallica. Doing shows in small bars in Columbus under different band names lol
Only lore song will be City Walls?? Thats weird...
But Rawfear got teased with letters
i really donāt like that city walls is the ending tbh
watch intentions end with a 10 year emotional recap since the BF era and a āgoodbye for nowā
i'm really disappointed
I hope this letter is also a breach in trust
aint this literally what we were expected anyways
I understand you and I fel a bit disapointed too
ok but still
i thought maybe the story would end with Intentions or Tally
but City Walls makes sense
inb4 they spent the entire MV budget on the city walls video lol
Why would they tease the whole world that this era will be the best so far if they will not even come to europeš
yea i feel you but you cant complain we've got a lot over the past 5 years
City walls is the end, but did it say itās the only lore video? Because the contract is track 5 but lore. Rawfear has to be.
Hmm true
No more Donoho videos wow
i don't see how that's confirmed
I hope city walls is like 10 mins long
"new album, and a new video"
wondering if we should listen/watch the videos in reverse order
i mean he did say it's the end of the story (referring to the MV)
yeah i'm brazilian tho i'm disappointed bc they are not coming back with the tour
I feel like the album is gonna feel pointless after the first song
guys, what about the live albums š
bro oh my god sorry to word this in a weird way but are yall illiterate he said last lore mv not last lore song the album is still lore itās just the music video we were expecting the ending to come on september 12 anyways why does it matter what song it is
City walls is the end I found that pretty explicitly said MV wise
lore or not, we should be excited weāre getting two back to back albums
Yes. What I mean is, we donāt know if another song may be lore, but take place before city walls, the same way the contract does.
oh for sure
Thatās what I was thinking. Kinda like how HDS is the last lore video of Blurryface, but the first track on the album. The MVs and music donāt always follow the same chronological progression. Idk, it could be hopium, but I think if we could wrap up the story in one more song, they wouldāve just put that song on Clancy
hey atleast we are getting jocals on drum show š¤©
bro tf u mean by pointless? its a new album, with new songs about important themes. vessel is not a lore album... self titled... blurryface...
Ofc but pls let ppl talk about their feelings. Not only if they happy, but if they sad too
yeah guys, don't be sad yet, we still have a single on monday and a full album coming in a few weeks, shouldn't we be excited?
IT IS STILL A LORE ALBUM THO OMG
I want to believe itās a lie, and that even THIS message is lore, but itās not. We know itās not.
With like 2 lore songs innit?
Were forgetting the contract is song five we don't know for sure what will happen. We just know nothing will come after the events of city walls
I mean like instead of it all leading up to one finaly
I was mainly excited about europe tour leg
so based on what tyler said, intentions will be a uke song similar to oldies station and the craving
hope tyler will end blurryface as the character in rawfear
it's all about learning.
THATS THE MUSIC VIDEOS DAWG
2 lore MVS, that doesn't mean 2 lore SONGS
really interested to see how The Contract fits on the album as the 5th track
yep same, but we will definetly hear Breach songs on the next tour they come.
Some other videos or songs could show or detail the events leading up to the City Walls video, no?
Edit: i donāt think weāll get more videos from breach other than the ones detailed, but I do think the audio portion of the lore could fill out the space
YALL FORGET BANDITO NEVER HAD A MUSIC VIDEO DOES THAT MEAN THE SONG AINT LORE
its a full Lore album yes lmao, also if your saying that what about rawfear? the contract etc? those songs aren't important??? intentions?? garbage etc?? like every song tyler Joseph makes is important for him and us - what did u mean by pointless???
Morph is a lore song yet it doesn't have an MV
Bandito, Leave The City
Never Take It too is goddamn lore
even No Chances
we need to rlly soak this era in and appreciate this album, cause who knows what and when the next thing will be
They love to tour. We can see how happy they look doing shows. Give them a break in 2026, they will miss us and surely comeback for 2027
ok sorry I didnāt mean pointless idk how to explain it
all music tyler makes is important for himself and us
which song will be the Lavish 2.0?
But tbh if the first track is the closing lore song
I dont think we could see more lore songs
Like flashbacks or what?
And The Contract i think is lore but not too much, it happens in Clancys head
yes it is and Iām still excited for it tho
City Walls /j
also we know that some fans arent gonna like the ending of the lore so⦠this first song is gonna be fucking heartwrenching
jocals are gonna go so hard
i feel like there needs to be an equal distribution of excitement for the ALBUM itself and the lore tbh. itās music, 13 new SONGS.
even if it ends being just 2 lore tracks, which i doubt personally. there is still a whole record for us to digest. weāre fans of the music, not just the story. ik it may be disappointing to some that it might not be as lore packed as we wouldāve hoped, but theyāre ending this era of the band with a full extra record and not just 1 deluxe. and iām very appreciative abt it
City walls IS the end in real time. The rest of the album maybe is a flashback to the whole journey? With intentions being the recap and song about the ending
when has it ever mattered the order of the music videos in the order of the album tracklist bro be fr nico and the niners was in the middle of trench and it was the second one
a lore song doesn't have to directly continue the narrative btw
it just means its theme or lyrics are related to the lore
