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this title attracts the most attention in their entire discography
I still can’t wrap my head around, out of every suspected song title from the Europe leg, rawfear is the one people were right about
same
and WHEN rawfear (or rawfear+drum show) becomes a single it could mean 8325 in reverse (5238) : the order of singles for breach
-# but probably it'd be just a coincidence
we on august…
oh right america exists
mb
they came from the digital remains it wasn’t supposed to be a date
yeah no never on a weekend
i’ll never stop saying this we do not need 4 singles for a 13 tracks album i already didn’t like that clancy did it u basically get to the album having heard half of the songs
center mass could be a post-release single tho
2 singles is enough imo
how can u tell...?
if 8325 in reverse is true
it's just an assumption
but i'm sure rawfear will become a single either separate or with drum show
this album is obviously special and important so maybe they're doing less singles to keep most of it a surprise
then they wouldn’t tease it that way since post release singles are not that relevant to us
who knows.. but again, not making rawfear a single is just a missed opportunity
sorry i’m being kinda passive aggressive that’s not what i’m tryna do
by the way a double single would make sense based on mojib saying that the order of rollout was important to not disclose
Would definitely be something the label would want to be a surprise
and thatd be an excellent excuse for the silence
im still curious whether breach boxsets notifications were intentional leak or not
definitely not
hehe thats good
or if they're even credible honestly
mojib also said he didn't recognize the tracklist
they are credible
the app is real, it shows notifications of all their merch getting restocked etc. for example this morning it showed a bunch of clancy CDs
not intentional but maybe they were testing it
well how many people saw the notif?
for the boxsets
multiple people here saw it
It was verified by TOP merch
yeah it's not like the UO one where only one person actually saw it
so this one is either legit for sure, or someone somehow hacked the app or website to mess with us (very unlikely though)
but there are other possible reasons for that
a) he was sent a fake tracklist
b) he received the DLX edition tracklist
why have a completely different tracklist for a deluxe
assuming that is what DLX means
idk theyre cooking probably
Breach Deluxe edition is just an expansion pack with 13 new songs on it
they had a fake one internally
also the "deluxe" is more likely the box set or whatever
is that confirmed?
yeahi mean as confirmed as it can be to us
bed
pieceof shof
i was just thinking. what if the list he recieved was like the second half of breach. the contract technically would be before every other track? so it's actually a 26 track double album? that would be so wild but id be down
nah the songs was registered already theres no chance for ur scenario
that would still be funny 😭 (and awesome)
btw why is that from april 6
its from june 4. my device uses non-american date format
ahhh i assumed that lol
idk if he rlly knows the tracklist, because he seemed to believe the fake one at first
hola
he knows it now
as do all of us
yeah he was given a fake tracklist by the label
DRUM SHOW BABY
video in a parking lot?
THIS WEEK BABY
Announcement soon guys i can sense it
finally
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN
Is it just me or does it look like Tyler blurred out Josh's hair?
the last time Tyler posted something the next day the band account posted something, so maybe tomorrow we will have an announcement
I think Josh got a haircut
and he's wearing some like sweatband underneath his hair
way too late imo
its this week fs
at the latest a release next week but i think a weekend announcement is likely this time for a release next week
feeling tuesday to thursday
they know what theyre doing
Finally probably some drum show teasing
Looks like he has red eyeshadow on but safe to say no lore
what's up with all those wires? like. what would they need it for
I was wondering that too
i'm very confused
Red, yellow, blue
but like, just to record a video they wouldnt need them
Idk lol
maybe it's for the vibe, for like drum show or robot voices
Ignore me it’s late I thought it was connected to whatever’s in front of the drums
Also why his drums normal and not twenty one pilots themed
Maybe it’s an old shot of recording the drums and getting the reverb?
usually you would go way out to do that, there are some pretty good reverb plugins that would achieve the same thing at a higher quality
imagine if it's a light up drum kit or something sick, and that's what the wires are for
(although the colors do make me think audio so idk)
Yeah but if they also recorded the album while tour, it would be cheaper, and more efficient to set up a kit in a parking garage and it would give a unique and authentic effect. I can definitely see them doing it to change things up and be more creative
yeah true, but i also think this is for a music video because of this light being covered, which you wouldn't care about unless it's a video
im leaning towards it being drum show's mv tbh
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True, just confused as to why mics are set up
it just makes no sense to me for it not to be the mv
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Same
crazy
Blue wire confirmed though
Makes sense. It seems lower budget
I like the diy weird shit shot in Ohio vibe I want more of it
am i tripping or does he have the red eyeliner
Bro tyler is like ,,lmao hey guys new stuff coming soon;* sorry I've been away" he knows what he is doing
YES snap back my beloved
Looking closer, the audio cables are not connected. Just loose xlr cables
Anything happen ?
Tyler post on ig story
OH SNAP
TYLER HIMSELF THE JOE OF SEPH POSTED
probably for the like garage (literally) band vibes them, to give the illusion they recorded it there
So true
Also is that a kick drum case or a cymbal case? I’m not specialized in drums like that
I see something coming real soon
real soon in like 3 weeks
it's either a cymbal case (because it's not thick enough) or just the lids of multiple cases
This is our August post
True, I just didn’t know if it was like a case for multiple cymbals or not
What if we get posts for all of August, contrary to goddamn July
daily activity! ... please
they definitely have something in store for august folks
Same
Im hoping we get Rawfear around 2-3 weeks before The big 12th 🙏
im 99.999% sure itll be next week
Rawfear and drum show double drop I swear
Id love that but its kinda
unlikely to happen
drum show has more chances because of isrc code
^
and well tyler showed us HIS DRUMMER AND DRUMS
i think double single drops this week, leaning towards earlier in the week
the boxsets and now this definitely point to it happening this week
early in the week is just me
It’s probably next week tho cause the weekend is coming
^
i meant this week as in within the next 7 days
Yeah I agree
I wonder if the mv theyre working on is the one theyre hiring for or if this is confirmation of the idea all songs will have an mv again
I took a
in the toilet
this image is of a different video,
the one they have casting for is filming in LA soon,
this is an ohio parking garage
oh, cool
yeah their mv turnaround tends to be 5-8 days with simpler/non lore so if this was shot today next week is 1000% feasible
mark has no involvement in paladin so likewise with city walls that theyre filming next week i assume
wait so is the leaked casting mv the same one as this one?
Nope
nah, diff one i think
who here thinks were getting mvs for each song?
maybe thats to explain the silence
mark has been hard at work
its not
every time i see a mark story or smthn he seems to be doing some nonsense so i hope they’re giving him an actual good schedule now 😭
that one starts on tuesday i think
This one is confirmed to be in Ohio, other one is in LA
is it an ohio license plate?
It says Ohio on the wall
where?
Ohio MV, it’s gotta be Mark behind the camera
tyler please post again on your instant graham
I think they’ve had this MV finished for awhile he’s just teasing now imo
hopefully
As in I don’t think the pic is from today
if the new MV is being filmed this 5th then id assume theyre gonna release the next single this monday or tuesday
i think it's early in the week for sure
Yeah but the other mv seems long form so itll take awhile
ok cool
we ain’t seeing that MV till November istg 😭😭😭😭
i hope we get more songs over 4 minutes'
Also possible this photo was posted from an already finished video session, isn't necessarily current
I would think this is his way of riling us up for next week (hopefully)
yeah that, i hope that video is already done
is not
There’s no way people can know it
i was gonna buy one of the vinyls but now i might hold off in case there is smth good coming in the next week
I know we keep saying this but with the boxset leak and the new photo SOMETHING has to be happening next week
Or we riot
where'd they get it from?
source: trust me bro
thats Not Real i fear
fear? you mean RAWFEAR
okay
time. i think rawfear lyrics will contain some words written without spaces and we can make anagrams out of them
wow wait that would be fire
Oh yeah nothing on weekends 😂
that's what they want you to believe
this era is all about breaching our trust
so posting tmrw could always be a possibility
not necessarily a high one though
they dont do anything on weekends thooo
they also normally release the second single 3-4 weeks after the last one
😭
what about 8325? do u guys think we could get smth on august 3rd?
43rd 🔥
Wait, how do we know it’s an Ohio parking garage? Specifically Ohio?
its written on the wall
i think theyre gonna announce something this sunday
it says it on the wall
Oh shit, nvm i just saw my bad
hopefully
that code wasnt there for nothing
this has been planned at least since early 2024
its crazy that a single picture of josh with a drum kit made everyone like 3x as hyped
instantly
i think its interesting but it doesnt necessarily mean anything, and tbh im not sure it was always supposed to be related to this sunday purely because it seems there's been delays for the rollout
I just hope they announce something this weeked
folks its happening happening do you believe in it
Any developments on Tyler’s story?
😔
i think we got everything he was gonna post today
but i do think a weekend post is possible
I think it is too
I get the feeling activity is soon going to be way more than usual again
this is why i hate tyler joseph wym he had a whole week to do something and he does it in a weekend at fucking 5 am for me
okay 2am actually
chill damn
i am chill wym
omg tyler posted on his story
bruh he posted it so late
i feel like that’s tyler’s way of saying “guys we’re still here just wait” or smth
wait josh doesn’t have red hair so they’re probably filming a non lore video?
Waking up to Tyler story is so fucking awesome
But talking about Josh. That black drumset, with even blackened symbals as it looks like + the red drumsticks are so fucking cool.
also just to put this out there, could it be possible that this is a fairly old photo and tyler is just randomly posting it to hint at the upcoming single
or do we think they’re filming this rn
Imagine going into a parking lot after a long night and just seeing Josh disassemble his kit and Tyler probably sitting and watching him do it
i feel like living in columbus you would see them doing this stuff all the time 😭
Idk I’ve never seen a black drumset before, maybe in the BF era.
This feeels new
no i mean it is from breach era
but from a few days/weeks ago
they could also be wrapping up filming cause they literally are in LA soon to film this next big MV, if i remember they start oh august 4th which is monday
the black kit does look so sick
maybe they are now in LA filming other MVs too
two?!?!
Two???
mojib said it once, said something along the lines of one being a catalogue and other the normal (idk man i dont understand music stuff)
This is a weekend, but guaranteed when the weekend ends we’ll all be back
the picture tyler posted was in ohio
that’s why i think it could be a few days old maybe idk
it actually could be tho
(yeah i meant next week)
is it just me that thinks they won’t do a video for every song, it seems really unlikely
Well first of all look at Clancy. Second, that could’ve easily been what they’ve been doing all of July
well they said on clancy that they wouldn’t do that again
that being said, they also said clancy was the end
When did they say that specifically
rn i don’t remember if it was the livestream or an interview they were asked about it and tyler said nope we are fine
maybe both
exactly
maybe
it’s possible but idk personally i don’t see it happening
theyll do 99.999%
just imagine how many lowbudget mvs they could shoot in a whole month
knowing that they don't know what rest means, that could be true
they could’ve pretty well made all of em last month and that’s why they were silent but i highly doubt it we probably go back to visualizers this album
it doesnt make sense tho
it’s indeed possible but it caused them some problems with clancy so idk if they’d do it again. tyler literally said they wouldn’t
why clancy got the mvs but breach shouldnt?
clancy was the first time they've done this. They just didn't make it in time. Now, if they are making all mvs they are definetly learning from the mistakes they've done on clancy and it shouldn't be a problem
tyler himself said it takes a lot of time, and they need to pushback the release by a week
so for breach they know what theyve done wrong with clancy music videos
and dont forget that breach release date was pushed back
it wasn't pushed back, it wasn't just stated when breach would release.
yes they didnt officially announce that the album would be released on sep5 but this information was practically rock solid and appeared on a number of verified sources
their website included
by this information i mean sep5 release date separately
so we can consider that the album release date was pushed back
well, they literally said breach comes out september. The same day it said the items were going to be shipped september 5th. They knew the approx time they will release it, but kept it safe by saying just september.
That September 5th shouldn't have been took as a serious release date.
cause they said they wouldn’t want to do it again but as i said they also said clancy was the end so we never know
even tho september 5th is still marked in my calendars lol 😂
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i mean, not to be that guy but we will hear this album in september 5…
i understand but thats what youre saying now. at the time many people believed the album would be released on sep5
i do believe they were planning september 5 to be the release date at first
yeah but at that time, people also believed its likely to get pushed back.
im almost certain they changed the release date so they could get everything done on time
but they never confirmed it
and it was pushed back tho
just not officially
my cd still says september 5 tho
they kept silence all the month which could also hint at their workload
its been so long, ive forgot that i have order the fpe lol
i’m thankful i did
Lmao yeah probably
yeah some store will probably just put in on their shelves at september 5th lmao
alot of stores dont know yet yeah
walmart for example, still says sept 5
last i checked
but walmart doesnt get info from like the record label
I think it’s the week of announcement and then single week after. I’d love to be wrong though.
so the release date for the 2nd single could be aug12 exactly 2months after the contract 
Maybe sooner than that
they’re not filming a music video for a release this week
Realistically if it released late week and is clearly a smaller budget music video, they could be.
They could’ve took that picture a month ago for all we know
This too.
Could’ve just posted about it to hint at drum show since the focus of the image is Josh and his drums.
Using it to basically say “we’re back.”
this is so true
yessss
actually very much more likely that its a pic that wasnt taken the day it was posted. cause imagine he posts where they are rn. some crazy fans would immediately try to get there !!
this is like basic famous person safety thing
Mmm yeah that’s probably the biggest reason it wasn’t taken that day
Or I guess it could’ve been and he posted it after they left
didint we have like pictures before the mv filming from before like
on clancy era people saw them filming at the risk/midwest and lavish iirc
especially right after all the stalking stuff that got exposed on twitter 💀 i would hope they’d take the extra precautions
yes cause these were filmed in very much public and during day ?
also insane how they did not block the road from traffic when josh was up there ???? thats so dangerous ???????
mfw a car miraculously jumps off the road to hit josh in the noggin
It’s been the longest for a loooong time now 😭
for over a 10 years since vessel
since july 11 no
Damn it might be double the amount compared to all other albums
holy shit
for last era we had both situations
like we got a hint then a week later something dropped
but also we got a hint of lavish like a month before it dropped
second single: backslide???
so could go either way
yeah they mustve mistaken
105 days passed between hoty & guns for hands. were now almost halfway through that gap
Fair enough, that's at least something. Vessel days must've been crazy
105 days?? holy shit lmao
yeah thats crazy
next semester was a relatively big budget video and it was released just two weeks after they recorded it, now imagine what they can do with a low budget one. and no the vid they are looking for actors for and this one is not the same that one is probably for september 12
the pic is clearly (to me) not from today
also what do we think of black drum set and black josh hair just as we are bout to get the dark clancy and torchbearer boxsets
second that
i think its the one of the backstages and tyler will post more soon
imagine (this is not happening) now tyler got the red things in his hair and josh is fully black cause tyler is now playing torchbearer and josh is playing clancy because this album is written from the perspective of torchbearer
well die if tyler has black & red hair
the one in the contract was red tho wasn’t it?
No
no theres probably the reflections
Wait, it’s a translucent maroon
its black to me
Yeah, so it’s a different kit
so i wasn’t missremembering hahaha i was tripping so hard
The contract uses the Clancy drum set. This seems to be a first look at the breach one
It looks really plain tho
I bet they fuck up a bunch of drumsets in the MV
Yeah, it looks like the trench drum set
what if josh is gonna play drums on all their eras kits?
like truly drum show
it looks like a new one since even the symbols look like they are black
that would be super cool
i need Josh to shine on this song, like he needs to bring THE HEAT
5 minute drum solo ‼️🔥 5 time signature changes ‼️🔥
a full math song
things havent happened since the picture was posted and i, much like a starving dog, am craving more
REALLY
come back tyler give us more
maybe 9 pm est is his new posting time 
the craving....
why
imo its definitely from last night, the place has no natural lighting which makes sense for 9pm and it doesn’t make sense for tyler to post a teaser for an already recorded mv at 9pm on a Friday
He’s not in the shot which means he likely took the photo and it would make sense for him to post it on instagram after taking it
i think the place has some natural lighting on the left side
I don’t see that at all. To be fair it’s a parking garage so it could be underground
and this photo couldve been taken on one of july evenings
it could have
could it be a first floor?
also a picture of this place from reddit
😭 how did they geoguess the location bru
Do you have the address so we can see if there are windows
ig its from one of the locals
ohio statehouse parking garage
There is in fact an underground one
there’s an above ground and underground one like 2 blocks apart so not sure which one they used but probably the underground one
well first of all don’t you think it’s a place with no natural lighting on purpose
i stand by what i said this pic is not from today
idk if it will release next week, but at least we will have an announcement next week
the person on reddit, iirc, said they work there/park there for work so that’s why they recognized it and could inform us what level they were on
i strongly believe its releasing next week
Same
Just to clear up confusion you’re talking about from the 4th to the 8th?
mhm
I think you could be right
if they work there wouldn’t they know about a floor being shut down for filming??
Plus it makes sense for them to record at 9pm when there’s little to no activity in the garage
You know it's bad when we start analyzing every single tiny detail of one single image Tyler put on his story last night
same
they give us crumbs, we shall eat every last one
well we do that all the time
100%
it’s not like we have anything else to go off 😭😭😭😭😭😭
we have no reason to believe this since they do this all the time and it never is from the same day
when have they done it before with no caption on an instagram story?
brother this is like saying hmmm tell me when has tyler scratched the left side of his triceps using his feet on a tuesday at 6pm 😭
Not really. The context is important because it’s the difference between a teaser for something they obviously are releasing soon and a photo updating people on where he is right now
yes and this is clearly the first thing
interesting place to film a mv
are the supports on each floor colored differently?
this is old picture lol
they are yellow now
ik but i need to do a little research
that was someone seeing them in public
its usually a related tyler post then a day or two later theres some announcement
so hes def trying to get us excited
i wonder how quick they can do this video, or even if this was old
ohh
oooo thats sick
and they choose the yellow floor. TRENCH VIBES INTENSIFIES
So…Monday announcement 
inb4 the video is black and white because Clancy can no longer see yellow
?
He better release it soon after Monday
possible
i hope but who knows might just be announced next week, i expect that atleast
The casting thing for BREACH mv closed yesterday, I don't know if they'd drop a single when they're filming another video
this whole week
next semester?
they did that while filming backslide
and atrofd
Oh I actually didn't know that
this black kit is very similar to the one in natn mv and tylers photo was taken on the yellow floor. what if they placed kits from all their eras on different floors and this video will have crazy editing where the angles change from floor to floor?
they recorded several mvs while next semester was still being edited actually
yellow n black mv i bet, the drumhead is tilted away from the camera cuz its yellow
Are we assuming we're getting mvs for each of the Breach tracks?
thats my bet idk
That's awesome!
but it 99% is all mvs
id say 70% unless you know something
ty did say he hates doing visuals instead of mvs cuz songs dont get paid justice but at the same time they cant do that for every album
no title card in the contract makes me think maybe not
I love even if it's just little mvs like snapback
i am certain that there will be song lenghts with the second single
oh yea def, just like next semester
you know what would be fucking cool
if it dropped
I’m. Now thinking the pic isn’t old. I think they just filmed. Back to his natural hair to be TB for the next video shoot
No title card in the contract bc it takes place during paladin strait?
possible? I'm not suree
instead of like title card and stuff what if in every music video it starts with like tape blalal playing @glacial crane
u get what I mean
With the cymbals being black, it makes the kit look smeared in a way
didnt he have red hair in paladin?
To be fair they filmed backslide on the day next semester dropped
OHH like the tracklist vid
yup
Did TB have red hair in his Bandito get up?
thats the only thing keeping me sane LOL they were busy that whole week and still popped out a mv
poor Mark v2
i actually think it wasnt visible? his beanie covered it i thought, i dont remember it being NOT red tho
i don’t think we never saw, his beanie always covered it i think
Oh yeah that’s fair lol. They could have just covered it
thankfully dont think hes involved in the new mv so he gets to rest while they do drum show
but still poor mark
I can’t imagine him getting another $5 gift card again 😔
oh really? why do u think he isn’t?
i thought since they’re in ohio they’d get mark for this one too
Andrew maybe?
I hope they do another mv with Andrew. He cooks every time
if it was filmed yesterday id say it has to drop in like 2 weeks? cuz i dont think theyd have a very quick turnaround while doing a large scale mv out of town as opposed to doing some at home
Cause the new video filming next week is by the Paladin director
i mean for the jensen video theyre doin next week THIS one was mark id bet
paladin director Cooked in that mv honestly
ohhhhh my bad my bad got confused
do you know what is the best mv for me tbh, the contract
It’s being speculated that this an old picture from July during filming
Yeah I think we’re still 2 weeks out
I wonder why they filmed so close together
i kinda want them to branch out with some new directors tho, The Contract was fucking amazing and had a pretty solid turnaround time. i’d prefer only a couple Mark vids and mostly diff directors this time tho. i want some new stuff
The Contract is insanely good
It was all shot on an iPhone apparently which is insane
the close shots are iphone 16
28 Years Later type shit
That’s crazy to me it looks so good 😭
this is iphone 16
I wish I had a bigger screen to watch it, my phone is the only thing with enough resolution to truly enjoy it.
idk why he'd post this if not to like hype us up but at the same time idk how fast the turnaround could be here
They cooked mad hard on The Contract mv. I’m hoping for more MVs like that in the future
That photo could’ve been taken at any time, like I could just as easily post a photo from 3 years ago on my story
they cooked with the contract in general
Yeah great song
if choker was a week, next semester (shot in LA) took a week, i can see this late this week? maybe? i assume this was last night but it couldve also been an old pic to hype us up
Top 10 TOP songs possibly
lyrics are bit simple but i love the song so much
Next semester was teased on March 21 and it was filmed on the 17th
I think it could be from May or June. I see July as downtime for them
they did alot of stuff in july on background
that’s why i’m kinda scared that we’re gonna get The Contract and whatever the Jansen MV is for as the only “high budget” videos. I love Mark but they’re twenty one pilots they can allocate a bigger budget for more videos than those i think 😭😭
I like that the lyrics are simple it makes it feel intentionally rushed, like he was scrawling down notes as fast as possible.
Probably not MV stuff so they could at least spend sometime with family after tour
true and like I can see the scary mood in his singing
like hes a bit shaky
you can feel it
He's constantly looking around during the mv
I’m hoping they ask for a higher budget. FBR would say yes in a heartbeat 😭
a week and a half then, but for a local mv it could be done fast? maybe? i hope its this week but i think the week after is more feasible
hes so fucking scared
i mean i would be too
Poor Clancy
and like, man they’re rich. you don’t need to act like you’re in 2011 again we got good directors that can work on a decent budget these days 😭😭😭
theres a song called RAWFEAR lmao
paranoia type
idk i highly doubt the mv isnt already done if that picture really is for the drum show mv
I also love how exasperated Nico is. Like he's dealt with so many Clancy's cycles he's just tired.
i mean done being edited, like the turnaround time
do we think nico is scared of clancy too? like clancy is scared of nico but is nico scared
Exactly. Blurryface has them set for lifetimes so I’m sure they can fund some MVs 😭
theres no way they took a month and a half off and just didnt do any rollout related work, especially not the work they struggled on with clancy
do we think
no LMAO
bro was taunting clancy the whole time
true..
i think he has somewhat of a fear of what clancy can do, but he still has the upper hand
Nico is trying to aurafarm unfortunately
like bro was tweaking when keons got seized
like the Roaring Knight
i know, i mean i think it's fully done if it's drum show's mv like we're speculating it is
did you see his face? bro was shitting himself
My theory is that he’s going to act tough until Clancy gets the higher ground somehow and then completely crumble
yk the boxsets being prepared for release do make it seem like it REALLY could be this week tbh.. they wouldnt prepare them 2 weeks early, this week or next seem realistic so i hope
i really hope cuz im tweaking
boxsets + tyler post make me think next week is it
i agree, because at the end of the day he’s a manifestation of all of tyler’s insecurities. they seem tough but at the end of the day they crumble like anything else given the right methods.
whats the plan of the banditos/clancy anyways
I feel like a single next week is the only logical step atp
so i think Nico definitely has fear on his side as a way to keep clancy down, but once clancy stops being afraid of Nico, those walls start to fall
i mean, the bishops tried to use zombies and they failed
That’s true, so I feel Nico is definitely at least a bit worried that he even got to the tower in the first place
imagine being Nico and this fucking freak in a cat mask dismantled your entire army, and district leaders
like i’d be just a tad concerned
do you know the general use case of an instagram story
no music
Kinda like Pennywise how he feeds on fear
i wouldn’t call those trap songs but i get what u mean
Another pet cheetah type song would be great
I’m hoping for longer songs personally 🙏
we’re looking at 3:30 songs at most for each track so #cooked 😭😭😭
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knowing it's the end
hai
intentions will probably be 5 mins or smthn
lavish 2
I kinda hope intentions is a LTC or Goner type closer. I like Paladin, but the sad closers are always the best
maybe they’ll actually try and do a 7 mins outro this time without 1 min of silence
i’ve come to realise i’m ok with any track length, longer would be nice but i think if the song fits its length it’s ok
lavish josh shirt off
Intentions will be 7 mins trust
real
It’s a stretch but I hope we get a lengthy song like that without bird noises or anything
It’d be cool if they push the limits of 1 lp
intentions will be like 5 mins i think
it just depends on how they use the runtime for sure. like, vignette’s fucking amazing and it’s 3:20
i love how 🐦🐦⬛ was a genuine spoiler to paladin strait for a while
but most songs will most likely be in the 3:00 - 3:50 range
I wouldn’t mind it. Clancy is phenomenal and most the songs are in that range
paladin is not a closer thats why btw
Oh yeah double album stuff lol
intentions will be a foray into psychedelic rock and will be a 15 minute experimental journey.
15 minute art rock piece
im gonna cry on intentions probably so bad
i know this is a joke but if trench era tyler somehow reappeared in 2025 he would cook with this
I’m gonna sob on Cottonwood
and im scared of cottonwood and RAWFEAR
Hi
The Cottonwood lyric was like straight to the throat
I thought this said intentions is probably bad lol
cottonwood is a beautiful title for a song
need that Tyler that pushes the limits of his song structures again
cant belive you are gone for good
Such a powerful lyric 😭
I need another Bandito where it’s Tyler messing with song layers for 5 minutes
Thats the power trio right there
Paul Meany is like the twenty one pilots’ George Martin
yeah, pure isolation that almost destroyed him i think 😭😭😭😭
It would be so cool if the album flips between Clancy's mind and the real world
Honestly meany is as much a part of the band as tyler and josh
Well said
definitely, so tbh i dont rlly want him to go through that again even if it made him create a masterpiece 😭
Paul Meany
Tyler R. Joseph
Joshua William Dun
and mark
Mark the goat
mark and paul are definitely the secret members of the band
paul is just the producer
that’s mainly the reason why i think we won’t get a record that pushes them like trench again. i feel like that environment for tyler really put himself in a place that he didn’t wanna be in. and especially now that he has kids, he really can’t afford to dig that deep anymore imo.
and like he does the arrangements on shows iirc
The 3rd and 4th pilot fr
definitely, and when listening it’s definitely evident that the album comes from someone in a dark place
Just ? He is one of the reason why trench sound so good. You can hear his touch on every song he produced
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don't make credit to only him
honestly any top song with paul on it is guaranteed to be fire
Didn't he produce the whole album?
also whoever mixed trench did an amazing job
he is on every single one after trench
Of course , but saying that he is "just" the producer is a little reductive
The sound design is great
paul’s contributions to trench are actually some of my favorite parts lowk LMAOO. the chlorine piano segment during the second hook, and like… all of levitate basically
except SAI he’s only on two
And then they basically got rid of Paul for SAI 😔
Yes trench(beside my blood) and Clancy . Also Saturday and redecorate
hes in it secretly
i think this was tyler trying to push his creativity during isolation maybe idk
like iirc he did something else in sai
Didn't he only produce 2 sai songs?
or maybe they couldn’t get to paul during covid
Yeah. SAI still turned out great so I don’t complain
paul meany was on scaled and icy as a other credit iirc
yeah credit to everyone who worked on it tbh
he produced saturday and redecorate
im not fucking saying produced?
im saying as a other credit
Big shout out to whoever mixed the drums on Smithereens. It’s the best part of the song for me
Oh alright
he was credited as something else on scaled and icy
iirc in the The Only Band In The World book tyler said that he wanted to prove to himself that he could make a record basically by himself and pushed all his potential collaborators away. like Max Martin wanted to work with them, etc.
the two best
Yes
This low-key break my heart a little, but I respect it
chill…
SAI isnt bad by any means so Tyler did a good job
I wonder if they will do something with max martin one day. Tbh I hope not
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this is what i love about them, they stick to themselves
What albums has Max done?
Like not by the band just in general
i’m glad they didn’t do big collabs tbh cause it would’ve pushed them further into the spotlight which isn’t a problem but yk idk…
all i know is he’s a legendary producer
Most of the albums you hear on the radio tbh lol. I don't remember exactly, but he worked with the weekend ariana grande or Coldplay . Go watch his wikipédia page it's interesting
max martin worked on a lot of hit songs and whatnot, like some weeknd songs and more that i can’t name off the top of my head. but he is super talented. but i do think it’d clash with the band’s aesthetic if they went that way.
BUT! since SAI is a pseudo pop album, a max martin production credit would’ve gone crazy
I would be interested in an album that sounds like early Coldplay, but if it’s recent Coldplay then I’ll pass lol
if anything, SAI was THE album they could’ve used as an excuse to do more production collaborations on. but hey we’re here now so idrc
Oh he did Music of the Spheres 😔
What album was he referring to on this? As far as I know Vessel is the only one with no collaboration. The other albums all have producer credits even if Tyler primarily wrote everything
The problem is that max Martin often writes the whole song basically.
So I can't see them working with the band even if he is really talented
i totally am grateful they didn’t do it tbh
"post-2014 coldplay"
shivers
Yeah it's recent Coldplay
Tyler wouldn’t work with someone who writes the whole song anyway so I’m glad he denied him
SAI
Yeah
It’s a shame their first 4ish album are so good 😔
a head full of dreams by coldplay i actually rlly like
Yeah it's a shame that they have a dozen of writers on their songs now
but their recent stuff is awful
Weird. On SAI he had help from Mike Elizondo, Greg Kurstin, and Paul
Parachutes is a phenomenal album. It’s so sad comparing that album to their recent music
Yeah I like it too . Many people dislike it but I like it
omg they’re so bad
what tyler meant by collabs were popular producers in the industry. and possibly other artists. ones outside of their usual sphere
Viva La Vida is their only 10/10 album but everything before that was super solid. I aslo think Ghost Stories is underrated. Mylo Xyloto was pretty mixed but it had some bangers ike Major Minus and Charlie Brown.
I’ve seen people dislike Hymn for the Weekend but I low-key fuck with it. It’s catchy
i’m glad they don’t do collabs like other artists cause IMO it takes away authenticity. like their albums are special because it’s just them, and their art
my brother was a huge imagine dragons fan and he confirmed that their first album was the only good one
i love that song
Hymn For The Weekend makes me wanna pull off my fingernails and swallow them
feels more personal
Death and All His Friends is one of my favorite songs of all time so I do agree with Viva being a 10
Mike and Greg are both very popular producers, but I'm assuming their help was minimal then
Their first two albums were good , but yeah after ..
It's sooo good
I think it's the only song I dislike from this album
the interlude with the obama sample 💀
Well it's an interlude 😭
It’s good until you think about their early music then it’s just kinda like
Oh early Coldplay how I love you 😔
I will give HFOD this... Birds and Up&Up are really solid
Amazing day made me cry back in the day
I’ve seen nobody talk about Moon Music, but I hear it’s really bad. It’s gotten to a point where I don’t bother checking out their music anymore lol
Shout out Arabesque for making everyone think Everyday Life was gonna be a big return to their older sound with an artistic twist, only for it to end up being a bloated, unpolished mess
Everyday Life is definitely an album lmao
I think some songs are actually not too bad iirc. But the thing is that it doesn't sound like a Coldplay record anymore , not even like a Chris Martin record
You’re telling me we could’ve had a Twenty One Pilots song produced by someone who’s made so many number ones for other artists
i'm honestly glad that he refused
Same
I’m so curious what that would’ve sounded like though
Probably not very good imo
no hate to Max Martin but TOP is great because they're so authentic
i mean, they already had 1 hot 100 hit and then a bunch of others in the top 10 so i think that’s enough for the band’s lifetime tbh
They’ve also expressed how they don’t really care for chart placement anymore
Which is fair cause they made one of the biggest songs of 2015 😭
Saturday ft. Chris Martin
Lmao
The universe where SAI was a collab album between the pilots and Coldplay
the bad timeline
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and especially with how music culture is these days with artists that chart on billboard, i’d rather them stay at the level they are now.
Imagine Redecorate but Chris Martin shows up halfway through
the discourse would be mind numbing
Bounce Man ft AJR
No Chances ft BTS
the possiblities are frightening
HUH 😭 I don’t want context
The BTS feature 😭
Imagine BTS laying down a verse on No Chances. What a horrific thought
didint bts do fake blurryface
They did lmao 😭
They are not the chainsmokers smh
Reminder that the guy who wrote Death and All of His Friends also wrote a song literally called ❤️
I go by distorted face and i hold reservations towards your opinions
didint imagine dragons also do a clancy knock-off photoshoot
The fact they started using emojis for song names is fucking hilarious to me 😭
moon music
Gotta love 🌈 off Moon Music
lavish?
Moon Music predicted Lavish wedding
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"guys... this is not even close to being on topic"
"yeah but we're making fun of modern coldplay"
remembers The Scientist
"carry on"
thats why modern coldplay hurts so much
But imagine they return to their roots. The comeback story of the century
dont do that... dont give me hope 😔
i only still like chris martin cause were from the same county im shallow like that
I’m afraid it’s too late for them 😔
were discussing lavish by the way this is on topic
same year btw
Lavish wedding is leaks related
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We love trash the dragon ❤️
honestly i think single two is next week
not a bad shout, im setting my expectations for 2 weeks so i dont get disappointedf
Thats fair
I think they’re could be an announcement next week
I would love Tuesday announcement Thursday release tho
Announcement on Monday, release on Thursday or I'm cancelling my preorder
if youve seen this photo : its fake
genuinely wondering, do yall like the story of like twenty one pilots? do yall think honestly the story is like, a 10/10 or a 9/10 storytelling wise
I think it’s pretty good. I’ve always been a fan of their music than the story tho
Like how the songs sound sonically more than storytelling
I would give the story like an 8/10. it’s better than most story’s I’ve seen nowadays
tyler is a genius tbh, to come up with this idea and draw inspiration from these other things in real life is amazing
i love music that tells a story so i’m biased
Yeah. I think it’s impressive that he’s able to put out these albums while telling a narrative this large. People dont credit that enough I feel
would yall want a novel of just dema
is twenty one pilots's storyline like top 10 concept albums/stories for you
definitely
i would buy that
i’d even hope one day that tyler shares all of his research, notes, journals from when he was building this story as i bet that is absolutely fascinating to see
for me yeah, i don’t really listen to other artists that have a story like top
I would love a 2 hour and a half documentary on the making of the lore albums and how he tied them into the story
i think igor is a concept album
so is like mr morale and stuff
but i dont know why but twenty one pilots's storyline feels different from other concept albums
I think concept albums are more prevalent in rap music. Which is fine because those albums are great
I think it’s because it’s a single narrative thats stretched over multiple albums. It makes this story feel more grand compared to others
Not to mention the other medias they’ve used to progress the story
dmaorg
the letters, blurryface twitter and shit
You can tell Tyler’s been wanting to do this for a long time. It’s really fun to look back on
Yeah he has a platform where the message of his story can impact people
message, man
I’m also pretty excited to see where the band goes after the story
another story
I would love to see what narrative tyler would tell this time. So much ideas they can flesh out
wondering what he will pull this time
Promises of rollouts 😔
Y'know if I'm being honest, I think there was a time when I would've fallen away from keeping up with the band if it weren't for the story. I love the world they've created and what it stands for. As someone who wasn't huge on SAI, it was the story that kept me peaking at them to see what was going on. I was deep into them back during Trench and that will always be my favorite era and they haven't topped that album sonically yet. The whole concept of telling this story across so many albums and so many years has been the primary driving force behind me still being as big of a fan as I am. I don't really want to admit it fully, but the story coming to an end is both exciting and very scary for me. I think there are others who feel similarly to me whether they admit it or not tbh. Whatever the band does after Breach will lowkey have to prove to me that I can still be really into this band in my late 20's as I was back in the day. Cuz by the time the next album rolls around, my life is probably gonna look a lot different. This story has kept me tied to my younger self in a lot of ways, and I don't know if saying goodbye to the story is gonna be saying goodbye to the band, and by association, that younger part of me. But maybe they come through with a killer album in a few years and I still find myslef right back here. Who knows. I'm just enjoying the ride while it lasts. After I see them in October and eventually the new music leaves my playlists after a long while, I hope they give me a reason to come back next time. If not, it's been a crazy ride and I'll always have my vulture tattoo to remember these times.
We are all on the ride. These are exciting times. Enjoy it while it last. We are all gonna be in tears during the album in a month.
I'm gonna be uncontrollably crying no matter what this is so incredibly emotional
theres a probably another story after breach, they are not a normal band
100%. I think even if I do fallout of love with this band, the story that Tyler was able to tell us throughout these albums will always stick with me. It’s brilliant truly, but the idea of the band moving onto other and possible bigger things is exciting for me.
they will never be a normal band
i love the story and it has definitely kept me engaged but the music is what keeps me coming back. it’s just powerful and hits me more than any other artist out there
redecorate
all their songs tbh
true
I think the fact the fact he can write songs that progress the story while still having true emotion weight shows how amazing a songwriter he is
yes. my favourite song
i consider one of their two crimes the lack of redecorate mv. the second is lack of bandito mv
we technically had bandito mv
its just the animation tho
ye i said technically
mmm still not sure.. its not the official video
Yeah the visualizers don't count imo. Especially when they specifically went out of their way not to do them on Clancy
Which video is that?
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Includes the song banditø by twenty one pilots, from the new album trench
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Ohh yeah okay, I figured it was that
The animated thing yeah
Thank you!
Yeah I wouldn’t consider that to be an MV
More like the Pet Cheetah VR thing
mhm that's why i said technically :p
imagine we've been misreading it the whole time and track 4 is Garage. or even better, they misspelled it 🔥
misspelled more than 3 times
it's been 25 times
i was literally listening to snap back when u said that
alr they aren't posting anything this weekend
yesterday tyler posted at 9:13 pm est. there's still time
what if this drum kit is black because tyler will play it?
i think theyll announce the song monday idk tho
why monday?
they gotta announce it at most this tuesday
if they dont do it within the next 3 days we gotta riot
someone on reddit posted a video from tyler's photo location
Oooo
The name "Drum Show" is so weird like... wdym a drum show? i can't wait to listen to it omg
This drum kit is very very similar to the one seen at the end of Nico and the Niners iirc
Silver hardware with the black base color
and they choose the yellow floor for the photo....
and just the whole tracklist is so super weird and intriguing
i wanna hear RAWFEAR so bad
i think it might be one of those titles that don’t relate to the lyrics of the song itself, tbh.
or its like oldies station where it’s only said once in the track itself
fr fr
Rawfear and drum show soon (I’m delusional)
if it was teased last night id expect it announced like asap
we need the double drop
imagine the songs are polar opposites in terms of sound, that'd be funny
and if this is the case, i’m so hyped. because that means josh’s drumming was so fucking good it had to be highlighted. please god
let that man SHINE
what if drums as the cycles?
i've been this way, i want to change kinda mirroring and repeat yesterday's dance from fairly local
like imagine RAWFEAR is a very heavy maybe even rock song and Drum Show is very upbeat ukelele Oldies Station/House of Gold kinda song
I feel like if it was a double drop their ISRC codes would be around the same
who knows, not every single in their discography has a distinct ISRC like Drum Show
by "distinct ISRC" you know what i mean like very far from the rest
honestly we don't know if it was a teaser
Personally i think there will be at least one album transition
i've a feeling they'll post an actual teaser soon
it seems like tyler’s way of saying “don’t worry guys we’re doing things and smth is coming”
Well yeah but if it was a double drop there would be one more song with a similar code to drum show
the instagram story^^
yeah but not directly
well i see what u mean tho i don't think it completely cancels the possibility of a double drop
but i see what u mean
it’s still possible
if there is a double drop (which i doubt), it could be that Drum Show is like.. the single they wanna push to RADIO specifically, so it was registered along with The Contract. and the other track is more of a bonus in a sense. idk how to explain it but i hope yagetwhatimean
I don’t really think a double drop will happen, but I have zero doubts that there will be a transition between rawfear and drum show
like:
Drum Show -> Radio Cut
RAWFEAR? -> album cut
kinda deal
my blood didn't have a distinctive isrc code
but still i think we’re only getting 1 single
wdym?
but it wasn't a double drop
i mean it was a single anyway
It was the fourth single, close enough to the album where it’s registered along with it
It was always the distinct coded songs first
isrc codes don't necessarily mean that a song will be a single
The songs with codes far from the rest are pretty much always the first couple singles
no no i dont mean 1 single in total, i mean 1 single as in just drum show next. not a double single
that's not the rule tho
oh okay okay
mb mb
Ofc it’s not a rule it’s just what usually happens
This is what I’m thinking too
they could make a double single but it's unlikely to happen
idk if it's that unlikely
they can fill up the time from now till release with a lot of content as well if they space out the 2 upcoming singles as well. possibly making up for the lost time in july 😭
esp if only one of them gets an MV and it's an NATN/Jumpsuit situation
truth nuke
if that's the case it should be rawfear+drum show because their second songs always became singles
let’s say drum show drops next week, they can have content for that single until the second-to-last week of august.
then they can drop the 3rd single at the end of august which will have more content to push towards the album release.
announcement monday trust
or another teaser monday announcement tuesday
idk but it is coming trust me i know it’s a gut feeling but not like the gut feelings ive had all july this one different
Announcement Monday release Tuesday
Backrooms type shit
they left the tape there wow littering
Anything happen ?
yeah, they can do two singles in a month
they did thay on scaled and icy
honestly yeah i could see two singles in august
This is likely imo
I'm also wondering if the lore MV they're filming in LA will release before/right after the album (or at the same time), or after the Clancy Breach Tour of this year
Or during the tour?
im gonna be honest, the end of the lore wont be just gonna be like "heres ur final mv lore over bai" i seriously doubt they wont do something special about it
if they do that that would be lame
“Fuck you Nico!”
Intentions 🅴
Joking, of course—don’t mind me, going absolutely bonkers from the wait
LMAO
That goes so hard
This unironically goes hard tho 💀
probably will happen around 9 pm est
Lmao let’s watch Tyler post another story late at night
this is entirely possible
Chat am I super late to noticing this in Overcompensate (I probably am)

my thoughts have always been that keons (heavydirtysSOUL) district is over his eye, cause its the window to his soul, and if you notice sacarver is over his heart, cause tear in my heart, and the lyrics are literally way too short for my soul corazon (heart)
and maybe the covering of his eye is to protect his soul, similar to slowtown where he says "I put my socks on my feet, just so that my soul won't fall through my toes"
Ooooo
Oh damn I never noticed that. Good catch
im team whichever one leaks second single first
true....
paul the meany
i'm in darkclancy team
oooohhh ok
I’m down bad for dark Clancy 😔🫣
do u reckon we will get another post today?'
today 🥀
Tyler Joseph let people enjoy their weekend challenge
weekend life*
Real
impossible
i feel like the next 39 days are an unskippable cutscene
not if we just happen to go into a 39-day and 9-hour coma :)
yes please
what about like
a 50 day coma in case some mvs come out late
and we just hope they come out in those 10 days
nah the album will sustain me for 10 days
I love coming here every day to hear once again “today’s the day,” there’s something so beautiful about it.
Just remember that this is the man who's made us resort to this level of coping
😔
Just remember that this is that same man
this week don’t worry
same
ur fine cause this the week
not a sunday
