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Well we don’t know for every music site, but we got conformation that Banquet‘s source is the UO reddit post (with some steps in between)
come on man
just wait till next week
i'm
waiting
until
noon.
then till next week 
it’s saturday ain’t there something else you can do
paint the town
Imma lose my mind
medicate in the afternoon
they probably won’t do anything this weekend although tomorrow is a good chance because it’s the anniversary of the hiatus
I really hope the Clancy Live album also drops with the next single
That's still 100% gonna be a thing right?
Yeah ur right, I did some calculations 🤓 and we can probably expect it during the 2025-2026 holiday season
would be a cute christmas present
actually it could be anywhere from november to january. compared to blurryface live, that album came out about a year and a month after the recording (October 15-November 16) so since the Clancy live was recorded in October last year, it could release in November. However if we go by the gap between the studio and live version, it would land near January 2026. But I can almost guarantee it will release in that timeframe
excited
yeah that’s not happening lol
i don’t see them doing another tour for another album have the tour carry the name of the previous one and not including it on the live album so i would expect it to happen waaaaaay later
i think theyre gonna record stuff at breach tour for it too so id give it a bit lmao
RSD Black Friday
sai one came out like 6 months after the livestream but there wasnt a crowd so it took less mastering
yeah i don't consider that a live album, it's kind of a mix since it was literally MADE to be an album, where as this is made to be a live show-turned-album
well Clancy: Breach is part of the clancy tour so it might come out after this leg is complete
i feel like clancy live album will just be tracks from clancy
ig it'll be clancy & breach live album
Yeah I’m mostly just expecting it to be Clancy, even bf live was just one of the blurryface era setlists. Breach is connected to Clancy tour but the live albums aren’t supposed to be “every track played live this era/tour” it’s just a recording of one night’s setlist
Also just from a practicality standpoint for the physical release, blurryface live was already a 3 vinyl album and if they try to bundle in a breach tour show it’s gonna be a $200 massive 6 disk release with realistically like half the songs between both tours being repeats
I could definitely see them releasing a breach live album separately, but idk about bundling these two together- maybe it’ll be filmed at some point in the inevitable 2026 leg that could be more breach centric
in all honesty i just dont see it happening during a different album cycle unless they mix in a couple breach songs, it also could definitely be only a digital release
as much as i don't want them to do that i can see it
maybe if they add ATROFD and snap back to the set list
ok guys so maybe tmrw
it looks like we’re all just 24/7 coping it’s so funny “ok it’s gotta be today” “definitely tomorrow” “maybe next week for sure” 😭
next year
I would agree with this if it was a normal 3 year 1 album era, in that case it would be very strange to release a live album in the next album cycle, but with the unique structure of this era as a part one and part two of one larger overarching era I don’t think there’s anything weird about Clancy live dropping after breach. Doubly so when considering that breach was originally going to be on Clancy/the tour is still branded with the same overarching name, we’re essentially in the same album cycle for all intents and purposes- just split into two separate records.
Everything they do for breach has to be viewed through the lens of originally being an add-on that simply continued Clancy, before they then shifted course and made breach a separate project
@thin copper @tawny wigeon @lofty pike
Hi yo wassup
The heck
THATS ME RN..
W h y
sorry caps by mistake
What happened 😭
The New single Flowers will release in 28 years from now trust me
relatable
i've made a thing
28 decades later..
could be dropping on friday
would mark 2 weeks since their last post, i just think nothing before mid week is realistic but they could announce it monday
like a cover
holy shit i thought i was the only one that used samsung music
nah me too 
So nothing again
what if right at 12am
Vro I wish
wish I vro
Oooo
I vro wish
sisyphus
we are all sisyphus rn
all we do is just push the times everyday
every hour..
thinking this might be the one..
it helps us to push on through
but all we got is nothing but silence
okay guys hear me out...... what if the single drops between July 5th 2025 and September 5th 2025
nd an endlessly pushing this rock ahead..
You don’t quite mind how long the second single is taking, push on through
you're onto something
He said he’s just trying to stay quiet, did you listen to the contract bro smh 🙄 /jk
😭
Sources?
sisyphus in the trees..
what is sisyphus
u dunno? its sisi /jk
Upcoming important dates are tomorrow (start of hiatus) and Tuesday (Assemblage of the Glorious Gone)
yes I’m going insane, how’d you know that?
wait
why tuesday
July 8 is the day the Assemblage of the Glorious Gone was supposed to take place
the 11th could also be considered an important day since thats when they ended the hiatus with Jumpsuit and Natn
the breach location letter (7/5)
It’s been one year since the last convocation, and tomorrow’s Annual Assemblage of Glorified will be the biggest spectacle this concrete coffin of a city has seen all year.
so AAG happened on 7/6
I got July 8 from the lore thread on Reddit
and i'm pretty sure it was shown in the natn mv
july 8th was Saturdays release date which is where that number comes from
but the letters describing it are dated to march because they came out with the outside so 
banditos helped clancy escape while the bishops were engaged in AAG
would be the day before the outside
the moon dates have always been super unreliable so idk if we can take any of them as indicators of actual dates tbh
Would be a cool call back though
So that narrows it down to any day before September 5, nice 
if they don't release a song on or before july 10, it will be the first 28+ days distance between singles
amen
Ideally it's just the clancy live show, physical and digital, maybe some breach live thrown in as bonus tracks.
that's what i figure
💔
sry ive been out of the loop what channel is Mojib on?
he has his own server where people communicate with him, he's not here I don't think
ok thx
July 6th at 12am est: update
absolutely nothing
nothing...
we all are sisyphus here.. tyler hates us.. 😔
Dang it Tyler, I used to have a reason to wake up 😔💔
we don't think the contract is the only single right lol cuz alot of people are starting to say that
today for sure
monday maybe but definitely not today
today is more of a possibility than maybe we think
it’s the anniversary of the hiatus
but like always nothing will probably happen
unfortunately
id say generally announcements never happen on the weekend but bfx stuff happened over the weekend, that was also just cuz of when the anniversary fell
ehh i’ve seen artists announce things on the weekend but they never release on weekends
"something small will happen this year" so that was a fucking lie
huh
happy 8th anniversary of hiatus 😭
He said he has something small, he may have been referring to some small info he could share rather than an announcement
don't you find this deafening silence odd?
What about 12 PM
it's like we're in hiatus all over again
even debbie and jenna's accounts are silent, if i'm not mistaken
Not that odd, it's only been a bit over a week. There will def be something this week
the oddity is the absolute silence. they usually post at least something on personal accounts
It's been dead silent
we on wednesday we can safely confirm the theory that he just had some info about the album for us but since fbr was on the chat he could no longer tell us
no one lied
he just had info and could no longer give it
also i’d think it’s safe to assume they made him sign an nda or sumn now
even if it was about a single announcement I think it's more reasonable to assume he was just wrong for some reason or plans changed, rather than lying
I don't either
and i doubt something so long term would change but with this band you never know
i just think the announcement he was talking about wasn’t from the band itself but from him
he's been wrong sometimes (for example he said he wasn't going to try to give any info for a new Eminem album because he was very wrong last time)
and just couldn’t give it anymore
but generally his info is good
okay true
fair point
if its not today, its definitely next tuesday, wednesday or thursday
heard you say
Big day in Dema today, no time for tweets
new song lyrics leaked
You should flower flower flower man
come to the garden man
ill let my beekeeper know
youll be headed out out out man
brought you some pollen man
well make one more pot
of honey
we'll see.
good thing you said of honey
thinking this, he also said he's heard the song which DOES confirm a second single, and the radio silence last week tells me that 100% something will happen this week. he was probably getting release date confirmation or sonething
He's heard the entire album at an internal listening party so idk if that means anything
whatever happens it'll be announced this week more likely than not but idk if it'll release this week
But it's def going to be this week
i have to assume that according to their 10-year long rule it'll also release this week cuz we have nothing to go against that, plus the radio silence kinda tells me this week will be big, but I'm just saying at the least they'll announce it this week
we wake up tomorrow to "our new song, no kin, is here on thursday. |-/"
this week for sure
i feel so delusional saying "this week for sure...!" but the radio silence tells me all i need to know
again i wish we had a tracklist rn cuz the length wouldve showed up and we wouldn't be having this issue
idk but single 2 is flowers
and drops thursday
announcement very late on wednesday
Love your confidence
my dad is the cousin of jenna and gave me this information
RAHHHHHH
I’m president of FBR
Yeah well Tyler Robert Joseph is in fact my grandpa and he said that the entire album will be uploaded tomorrow
worded it weirdly cause i was tryna remember on the fly
I love ramen noodles and pop punk bands from the 2000’s
announcement tuesday or wednesday with a friday release is my prediction
I am Tyler’s long distance cousin from Europe we have a really big family dinner last night and he talks a lot about his new album Breach so yeah he said he scrap the whole thing and right now he works on scaled and icy 2
i am tyler n breach is cancelled , need some time too think n bounce on dick
hey uh let's keep it PG-13 here lol
igh gng u got it
I’ll just say it again, I looked through the TOP merch page again, and the Breach shirt specifically, TOP never put copyright shit on a shirt it’s gotta be a placeholder for the damn tracklist
Curious why banquet records was ballsy enough to reinstate an unannounced tracklist
me when I spread misinformation on the internet 
Are we thinking the record tracklist isn’t real now
Well the UO image on reddit is the only source for that tracklist, then we have Mojib’s comments, so it’s real ambiguous
I’m still behind it until it’s actually proven fake
Yeah I thought banquet took it off after people messaged them and then put it back up sometime this weekend
Then another record place just copied the obviously fake wiki one for some reason
iirc someone from here messaged Banquet and it turned out their source was a user-edited music wiki, which cited the Reddit post about the UO tracklist as their source. so Banquet didn't have info any more credible than what we'd seen previously
oh sorry MN I think we basically said the same thing, but yeah
all i know is i know nothing
I need someone to slip up for real and leak something
but i’m still maybe 85% positive on the tracklist till we get a confirmed one
The thing that I find weirdest is that they would show a new symbol without seeing it anywhere else
Which new symbol
Like it’s only on that one shirt
i don't see any logical reason to believe in the UO tracklist right now
second symbol here
Like we’ve seen the fpe one in the emails and the other three we’ve seen
Oh the second one. Yeah it kinda looks like a target
well friday is a universal release date and they’ve released stuff on fridays so idk it’s possible
Are we team shadow drop or team teasers
whatever it is i hope it’s flowers cause it’s cute
i’m team announcement a few days before
team announcement 24 hours before
Team Blurryface scares the shit out of us for like two days
i just hope we get smth
you mean this current week or next that will start with july 7?
it has to be this week like if it’s not then i have no idea what’s going on
the week that starts tomorrow
so nothing for today
yeah i don’t think it’s today
im Tyler Joseph. 2nd single, Flowers. July 32nd |-/
Can you pls not ping when you reply
i'm blurryface. and i care what you think
i wasnt even talking to you
well they shouldve specified that 💀
they shouldve replied to the person they were talking to
yabadabadoo
i never understood why ppl want their @ off when they can simply turn notifications off for discord
you cannot turn off all mentions
you'll still receive the red circle telling you you've been pinged here
yes it's annoying sometimes
even if you disable the notifications
you can mute discord tho in the settings app
but
if you open the app you'll still have the ping, even if you disable all notifications
just respect someone's request to not be pinged it's simple
"if you open the app" ok why are you in the app if you dont wannt get @
what
doesnt really make sense to me

im gonna say this with no bad intents, but your message does not make sense at all
friday is a universal album release date not singles singles are always kept for wednesdays and thursdays for marketing reasons and billboards n shit
but obviously people drop singles on fridays too
it’s just that top don’t
you said if you open the app. so that means you wont get the notification if you stay out of the app?
i wouldn't rule friday out though
but... even if you don't get the notification... you will still receive the red marker inside of the app...
fair enough but me personally i’m positive on thursday release
i don’t really think so i think we can start expecting movement on maybe tuesday the earliest
eh ig. but i check discord probably 2 times a day. idc who im replying to cause i dont check names and if it says @ off
im more on board with the idea that it releases on the 11th rather than it being a specific day of the week
it just feels right, but that's bias on my part
logically thursday makes sense
why is you pressed boy lol
its probably either going to be a 2 day gap between announcement and release
or like a premiere 24 hours before
it's honestly very weird and frustrating that they are this silent
exactly. THIS silent
I hope the payoff is good.
Like they’re still breaching our trust
aint the first time
Cool and frustrating
basically every rollout they went silent inbetween singles
I wish you could just turn off reply pings for specific people and discord would keep track of it, or at the very least make pings being off the default so you can specifically choose if you want to ping someone instead of it defaulting to pings on all the time😭
Not like this tho
this why i believe it’s on wednesday if the song drops on thursday i think they gon drop the announcement at the least expected time like 20 hours before the song drops
this time it feels a bit... too much tho
i'm STILL feeling like we missed something important
nah between shy away and choker it was like radio silence but we had that control panel site to keep us occupied
we didn't
we still had smth
Nah. Blurryface would have pointed us to the right direction.
Still embarrassed he helped us on that contract puzzle lmao
to me it’s basically how little information we got on the album basically we never been so non informed about an album as we are now
I feel like people just forget what other rollouts were like when looking back on them tbh, not hearing anything for 8 days is very normal😭
it's the lack of leaks that you're feeling lmfao
not even the leaks just the lack of even official information we usually get a lot more
to me this doesn't even feel like a new album it just feels like the same but different idk
FBR or Atlantic or whatever should feed controlled leaks
more promo things not just the same 2 pics from the same photoshoot the tracklist etc
no, they've been posting different things
oh yeah during sai we had a lot of promo inbetween singles
even the tensiondivision stuff that revealed how the cd would look and all the artwork and boxsets and stuff
This I do agree with, we know a lot less about the album this time which makes their normal amount of silence feel larger than it normally is
I still feel so unsettled about the fact the band has only posted Josh centric things since BFX
i would've been fine with sudden silence for a few days but then receiving a teaser or an announcement a few days ago, in fact i was fine with it, but now this is stretching a bit too much
tyler is kinda occupied right now
Getting his ass beat by Nico
This album so far seems very focused on the Torchbearer
i mean, it's been very Josh-centric even since the release of Clancy
it's sunday, y'all go roll a blunt or sumn, enjoy the weekend
clancy was focused on clancy, breach is focused on the tb
been saying this since friday don’t yall have anything else to do 😭
yet we can be sure it will lead to something greater
useless to be kept on your toes waiting for sumn to happen, if it does it does
no i just graduated what the fuck am i supposed to do
celebrate it
idk foo open up fl studio make some loops !
I’m about to get margaritas I’m taking a break from touching grass
just did that earlier
oh wrd ? send sumn
crack one open if u don’t drink roll sumn if u don’t smoke just idk skate or sumn
oh well it's not really loops i'm just working on ideas for songs
yeah if you dont do either just breathe or whatever you people do
what typa music you make ?
Flowers will release Thursday
My source: Statistical analysis that may or may not be true
anyway we're 100% getting something next week
failing that, the week after
When should I schedule this week’s crashout when nothing happens?
i hope we also get the tracklist so we have something to discuss
Ill put it at Wednesday at 3p lmao
id say friday after 1pm est
We’re 100% getting something before September 5th 2025 💪
Might be a bit of a reach to some but I’m okay making a bold prediction
I was responding to the person who pinged me
I want notifications for some things, just not reply pings
For example I want a ping when the band posts
anything new?
no
i’m sure single will drop next week but if it doesn’t at least we will get the announcement next week there’s no way we get nothing
i hope with single 2 we get a tracklist and more promo stuff
It’s just weird that TOP haven’t said anything since June, like absolutely nothing in July so far
Were we supposed to decode something in the “fireworks” post or what
It’s only July 6th lol
yes and last single dropped june 12 just 6 more days and it’ll be a full on month from one single to another
that’s crazy
how'd you know that?
a possible anagram
well, i'm totally delusional, but think the camera rotation indicates something
yeah, it indicates that i'm totally delusional
reminiscent of the contract mv
it’s so weird to be going through the rollout for a new album even if it’s the second part to the previous one and still be getting promo materia for the previous one
Yeah, I wonder if there’ll be more Clancy tour episodes
I’m team want teasers but fear we’ll get shadow drop
flowers is a need
Okay I’m too tired to read the rest of that 💔
No no im stuck on it too
fork wires 🍴
“Fire” works, aka, type in the word “fire” wherever you type in words or codes or whatever 👍 and it’ll work
Arg site somewhere 👍
if it's true, i'll howl
Dang it, /fire failed me 😔
deafening silence..
they got to be playing with us
dudes drop a album announcement, release a single, announce a tour and just vanish from earth
tbf they are probably taking a break from tour and the rollout we’ve had till now is just what was programmed but well i’d guess the second single drop is also programmed already idk
Really don’t think it has to do w them taking a break. Dropping singles and teasers doesn’t seem to interfere w that since they’re pretty anti-interview and anti-promo lol
the silence definitely has
something to do with the
rollout
I mean duh….
I meant that the silence isn’t because they just want to take a break. Because it requires very little of the band
i agree strongly
its possible that the 2nd single will release this week, but is it plausible
they are not anti interview or anti promo at all wtf
Since Clancy era? Yes they are
they kind of are
Tyler took one interview.
clancy the only album that has been very upfrontly lacking on interviews but we know why they literally had a second album hidden and they are human beings they knew they would eventually slip up
yeah but that was more of an old thing interviewers stopped being as idiotic with them after blurryface
yh they've done loads but they're definitely not huge fans of interviews or promo events
they prefer being with the fans
I think he took like three interviews total since the end of SAI lmao
yeah that’s still what promo means
?
wym ?
idk wdym
that’s still promo
Wouldnt call the signings during Clancy era really strong promo
??? im saying they prefer doing things for and withthe fans eg performing live. by promo i mean more interviews, press events
i guess there is a misunderstanding here but like aside from interviews when i talk promo im talking about the rollout itself and like yk typical stuff billboards n shit
yeah
but things for and with the fans are still promo
but with press events yeah ig u are right
I’m talking the band and not their marketing team/roll out
me too
id love more interviews but i rlly think they dont like it, with some exceptions such as zane lowe
hopefully we get more for breach
i’m just hoping for a real zane lowe album interview
same
i was hoping the last zane lowe interview was like 30min+
was kinda disappointed
He said he’s just trying to stay quiet, so now we’ve been left with silence 💔
But quiet is violent and imma commit a crime.
🤧
i’ll admit this is usually how their rollouts be they always are really silent between singles but this time it feels different it’s not the same just cause usually we get more info on the album with the first single we didn’t get much this time we don’t even have a tracklist
we don,t have anything
Hiiii, i was busy lately, is there anythink new?
They still didn’t confirm the release date either even tho we already know it
no
they,re staying completely quiet
true
Are they trying to stay quiet???
seems like
are we expecting anything
tomorrow?
maybe
since it'll no longer be the weekend
and it'll most likely be the week of the next single
i missed blurryface
same we need him back :(
Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday
All days to look out for
Then we can give up on second single
yeah i will repeat that
question every day
I got 3 margaritas and now im getting a 21 pilots tattoo leak nation
no leaks
Slay
see a fish meat
Hello everyone! I think that I may have a solution to the east is down theory. https://discord.com/channels/269657133673349120/1382011717227380857
What
i see a fish meat
I think that they are talking about what I believe is plastic wrap on your arm
yeah it looks like fish meat
That’s so nice to hear lmaooooo
YO THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE
fishes are cool
If that is correct Flowers will be released on 7/9
now that I think abt it, they probably will just shadow drop flowers on wednesday
Cuz 7/9 = wednesday
Next semester dropped on a wednesday
My head hurts
on the 27th day since
the contract
2+7 = 9
AND it would drop 4 weeks after The Contract
Since BFX was married to the contract puzzle, it’d make sense that looking at Blurryface would give us more keys
Which is exactly how many days Next Semester dropped after Overcompensate
There is also a lot of correlation between the golden ratio and lore themes. I plan on starting a discussion on this a little bit later.
Judging by how Breach is theorized to be dropped on September 5th, and how The Contract was released on June 12th, the amount of days between these match up exactly with the release of Overcompensate and the original release date for Clancy
Which was 80 smtn days I think
Chat, i think we figured it out
Off Tyler goes to change the plans again 
Because of this, it would make sense if the 2nd single dropped the same amount of days after The Contract, since it would line up with Overcompensate and Next Semester
Hoping things will pick up from here. We’ll see
backslide was announced
on april 23 and released on
april 25
maybe flowers/the next
single will be announced
tomorrow and released on
wednesday
How was Backslide announced?
Oh interesting
If they’re gonna do this to the second single then I can only imagine that the third one will be shadow dropped
that would be interesting
i still think all the singles
are going to be
story related
whos been a july 9th truther since literally may
the absence of any credible
leaks hints that this rollout
promises to be epic
I’m lowk lost what is the reasoning for July 9 specifically
@gentle rose
Yeah I took a look and I still don’t get it
If you go to the very top and look at the comparison of the BF cover and Dema map, you will see TC teaser dates. Orient the Dema map east down and you get the numbers listed in the post totaling 18. Using 18 with the golden ratio formula I got 1.618. More math: 1+6=7 and 1+8=9 or 7/9
we could also consider 7+11=18 if we wanna consider ALL possibilities
but i dont wanna wait that long lawl
if not wednesday we would get it thursday either way cuz itd be an international release on friday and leak early in the morning thursday so 😭
sorry had to reword that
Also if it’s as good as mojib says, it’d be nice to let the 2nd single breathe before the third one needs releasing. Gotta be this week
when it drops and its not fucking awesome
i think the single will be
announced tomorrow and
released on wednesday
god please i cant wait anymore
I still can’t get over the fact that they announced Breach on a Wednesday of all days
considering that mojib has
already heard the album in
its entirety would not be
surprised if his description
fits breach perfectly
On SAI’s anniversary 
This is what I’m thinking. The timing would check out to let the second one breathe a little, or they could drop both at once
And Twitter clique selfie day 
Would be funny to announce the second single on Saturday MV’s anniversary
No. Just realized the number is 34 not 18. I added Nico instead of Nills. Nothing changes except it’s not 9, now it’s 7. This could point to 7/7 announcement and 7/9 release date
If he didn’t say anything about how awesome the contract ended up being, this second single is gonna be groundbreaking
🤞🤞🤞
it was the 21 and they
breached our expectations
of another hiatus plus there
was a rumor about
BE BACK OCTOBER TEN
(or something similar)
I will edit in the post and add my photos that I used.
Don’t get me started on the October ten thing omg, that was phrase that wasn’t even completed lmao /nm
i am sorry
No you’re good, /nm means “not mad” 😭
Fr screw October 10 it was the contract baby
oh thank you
nd they teased the contract way too much..
so tomorrow..
we will see
and most curious
how do we know if your
clue was real or an
incredible coincidence?
Either way we need something this week
Something’s gotta happen on Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday Monday!
An announcement tomorrow with a 2-3 day rollout would make the most sense to me
yeah not posting anything
this week would have been
weird
We have a full week, and backslide was announced merely 2 days in advance so tomorrow or Tuesday hopefully
@night oar
this is from
doubt demo vinyl
d4 e5 i9 according to the
a1z26 cipher
4+5+9 = 18
i am losing my mind
OR
too good to be a
coincidence even though
the rational part of me says
it is just math
or all signs point to july 18 💔
then they need to roll out pr campaign similar to
the contract or peoples
interest will wane
I updated the east is down thread with the correct info. If correct, my error just made the info come sooner. 🤞
itd be very weird to just throw around the number 18 with no specification so i dont think itd be july 18th but i def think this solidifies the 18 theory
also a friday would be odd for them to do again after the whole choker incident lol
My spidey senses told me something was happening here, was it wishful thinking 💔
dark days
what happened with choker

@night oar
i think that is the point
In mathematics, the Fibonacci sequence is a sequence in which each element is the sum of the two elements that precede it. Numbers that are part of the Fibonacci sequence are known as Fibonacci numbers, commonly denoted Fn . Many writers begin the sequence with 0 and 1, although some authors start it from 1 and 1 and some (as did Fibonacci) fr...
34 fits into the
fibonacci sequence
34 is preceded by 21 and 13
3+4 = 7
2+1+1+3 = 7
that is how math works and
you have probably found an
incredible coincidence..
in other words if the
calculation initially
contains 1.618 all results
will lead to this number
21.013 is ~21 and 12.987 is
~13
leaked cuz it was a friday drop which meant it came out internationally at 12am
Yes. They both go together. I had to divide 34 into 21 and 13 to apply the golden ratio formula (A+B then A/B and (A+B)/A. As you read the significance of both you can see where they fit into the inspiration.
however tyler clearly
honors math so the theory
could work
Yes!
Where is the negative coming from?
it is ~ (tilda) not minus
Ah, got it. Old eyes over here, need to grab my glasses. 👀
Man I cannot math at all
DEI has to mean something though and we know that right
i really think the 18 thing makes sense
i wonder if they purposely had those vinyls ship out after the contract so we weren't trying to theorize a date in june or something
@night oar
even if this does turn out to
be a coincidence i would
like to see tyler,s face if he
was shown your theory
actually dei is just
don,t forget about me
even when i doubt you
i,m no good without you
right but the way its specifically cropped to say
D
E
I
and flipped to sit at the top of the vinyl sleeve
it is probably not cut but
bent
i am not sure about
Let’s hope that it’s not coincidence, but if it is let’s hope that we can at least break the silence.
exactly
seems to be a bend
set the scene. 12 hours and 12 minutes from now. it feels like we haven't heard from the band in ages
"twentyonepilots posted a video"
"tickets to the clancy tour: breach are still available! secure your seat now |-/"
cruel
if there is anything at 12am
i will eat a piece of tinfoil
Post pics please
think i am safe
Time will tell, but I’ll go with that.
hoping for something today
imagine if they havent even shot the video for it lmfao
their mvs tend to leak almost all the time but tbf that's only when they need extras to attend the set or they're filming in public
Praying for announcements
Soon. Keep faith
after i considered this i got genuinely worried because nothing has leaked about the next mv but like. they easily couldve just not recorded it out in the open for the sake of no leaks
clancy kinda seemed like they were encouraging leaks almost
tyler reposting leaked info left and right, next semester set leak being used for promo
They are definitely being more secretive for this release. I think it means a lot to them and us. It’s kind of like when you went snooping and found the gift that you really wanted before Christmas. You were excited, but when the time actually came it wasn’t the same. I think this is similar.
actually a very good analogy like that sums it up so well
im ngl i doubt anything happens to day i’m almost certain we can only start to actually see stuff on tuesday the earliest
honestly entirely depends if its dropping wednesday or thursday (if it is this week)
can’t wait to get disappointed in 10 hours and repeat it every day
usually they spring for a minimum 2 to 3 day notice, aside from the craving which was a weird situation as the last single before the album
blurry could totally tweet today or some shit too
a new week, it’s gotta be this week
I think that we at least have a direction on some of the clues that we have been given. Now we just have to see if it pans out.
Totally. In the end I always enjoyed the surprises more.
Flowers 7/7 announcement and drop on 7/9. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
not sure if they’d release on wednesday i think thursday or friday
thursday 100%
i got a feeling it’ll drop thursday with an announcement very late into wednesday
Just going off the east is down theory we put together earlier. If it is wrong it is one heck of a coincidence
if it’s not this week let’s just say i have no idea what’s going on
dei?? twenty woke pilots
fr
Today’s the day good morning chat
the morning is when night is
dead
tomorrow
tmrw i agree
I bet they post something today
tmr
i honestly dont see anything getting released this week, maybe announced at the end but 100% not released
why? numbers-wise, it makes the most sense to drop this week
why
18 minutes trust
I can definitely dream for that
who up breaching they flowers
😔😦😧🫤😖😢🙁😓😥
12pm trust
...
not today i guess
its only 10am we still have like 5 hours
it’s gonna be at 1:56 trust 🙏🙏
fair they announced
backslide at 1:02pm
itll be this week lol
reminder that while they don't really do it anymore, shy away, saturday, levitate AND my blood were shadow drops
we don't know breach's marketing yet so as odd as it would be i guess that's always possible
it was all a lie, breach isn't real
We are so cooked
i would not be surprised
the next single is fake you out remastered
bonus tyler giggling audio at the end
more dema propaganda...
if nothing happens in the next 3 days i'm gonna start practicing vialism
i think we'll get something by wednesday
even just a instagram post Wow my connection is buttcheeks

eighters and the nico
twenty one pilots isn’t real

Update: wiki tracklist has been removed from Google
OMG THIS MEANS ||absolutely nothing||
the 10th day of silence
Haven’t had a stretch of silence this long since early March 
honestly it does not feel
like part of the marketing
anymore
it feels like the early june
situation without the early
june
Guys dw the Paladin strait MV is coming any day now
facebook clique sighting
Do we missed something vibes
i have been saying that for
half of this silence
imagine if they planned on two singles releasing on the same day and we just never found the puzzle
do not feed my delusions
please
i said not today
heard ya say
not today
tore the curtains down
windows open now
make a sound
maybe there is a new dmaorg page we havent found
Next 2 potential times are 1-1:10 and 3-3:10
cuz every video they've posted on a Monday has been posted near 3-3:10
we would've gotten a notification for it cuz the mods set up a bot to go off whenever dmaorg gets updated
This aint dunny anymore
1:00pm trust
i don’t think it’s today but at this point it might not even be this week
see you this fall.
looks like we are going to
have to wait for the album
release
https://x.com/twentyonepilots/status/1937950076179026342?t=AgmIJ5QlG6LBaMjPhHL5ww&s=19
the two additional shows we've added in LA and Toronto are now on sale. see you this fall. https://t.co/3TvU8gbUWY
?
their latest tweet
that doesn’t mean anything they’re just saying they’ll see us on tour lol
I’m pretty sure that just means they’ll physically see us in the fall?
they always say that with tour posts
who knows 
if they don’t do anything in july then i’m gonna then start wondering if we’re only getting one single
I mean… they’ve said similar stuff when going on tour before 😭
these are extraordinary times
yh i wouldn’t read into that
see you October 10th theory is starting to come back 
or it was a hint to see you later
nah tour starts september 10th no way the album gets delayed past that
what if they stay quiet for 21 days..
not big on that
i doubt it
idk what’s going on anymore 😭 hiatus vibes coming back
like we don’t even have any leaks this time, literally nothing for us to go off
it’s just a waiting game now
hopefully this week
we really just know that the single isn’t coming out tomorrow. we might get a later post today about it coming on wednesday or thursday and starting tomorrow the 24h shadow drop could start with every morning. i have high hopes (
) for this week
they posted last hiatus
picture on 7/7/17 at 2:02
am utc
and ended hiatus on 7/9/18
at 12 pm utc
how would the bot know if an unknown page gets updated though
someone would prolly find a new website node
it happed before with the official tøp site I think
i thought september 20th?
yeah but thats different
those two sites work differently
alr then idk
if dmaorg updated it i feel like someone would've already found it by now
Well mojib said the second single is fucking awesome so we know it exists
No it’s September 18
dawg this is about the tour what are you talking about the album is dropping september 5 😭😭😭
istg
and will be released upon
the album's release /j
ppl be reading into things too much
yeah exactly, just a matter of when
What if you take the added tour dates and add them together 2+1+2+6=11. If you look at the timeline the hiatus ended at 10:03pm est on 7/6, but ended at 2:03 am on 7/7 UTC. This could mean an update at 10:03 pm est today. That would also mean a post on 7/9 at 5:08 pm. Next, back to my thoughts on the number 11. 7/11 is when JS was released at 9:03 am, NATN at 10:02 am and the bandito tour announcement was made at 11:11 am. This lines up with everything we have so far. Thoughts?
and now i just siiiIIIIIITTT
see this theory actually makes sense and self corroborates. I like it 😁
were they this quiet before the clancy release?
Not sure. It seems like we are walking through the lore starting with BF and now we are currently in reverse hiatus, as we will likely breach silence on actual hiatus date, today. Next we will move into trench based off of this sequence in the ARG. Based on this we should get SAI references in the next iteration, then Clancy, culminating in the Breach release.
kind of but we had leaks and stuff, we have no leaks this time
Breach appears to be changing things though
I really don't think they're waiting until the end of the haitus to do it
This marketing strategy got reall weird tbh. Pre breach anouncement was something, The Contract promo was def something
But this is nothing..
we are just tired of talking about the tracklist leak
The thing that worries me is even if they announce it this lets say Thursday, then we wait a week for the next, it's gonna make the gaps between all the singles feels bizarre
Because either single 2 and 3 will have a shorter gap, or 3 and the release will be weirdly short
I still believe they could release the song this week, maybe even shock drop it
I tought every single will get a promo like The Contract
it makes me think the next
single has something to do
with silence
imagine if the song is just
called silence
Silence.
Thursday.
/-|
Fast-forward 13 years now…
they haven't shock dropped since SAI, and that was a single 2 days pre-album with no mv so i dont really see it happening
but with no tracklist to give us leaked lengths and shit they could yea
Looking at what I said above regarding the reverse hiatus. We received the two additional concert dates on 6/25. this is the same date as the final Tour De Columbus show. Two weeks later today (UTC of course) the hiatus began. That means 12 days from the 25 is 7/7 and 14 days is the 7/9, the end of the hiatus a year later. That is stayin perfectly within the two week period, Considering that with the number 11 theory from the added show dates announcement indicates the double (if following trench) or single release on 7/11.
they definitely dont mean we're waiting until the fall. they always say "see you [insert when here]" for every tour. they said that with bandito tour when Jumpsuit and Nico And The Niners dropped and they still released 2 more singles lol
i thought i saw someone making a theory about July 18th too so if its true we're only getting 3 singles for a possible 14 track album they might wanna spread out the singles more. so maybe July 11th announcement and July 18th release?
starting to think the silence is literally part of the rollout
the "something minor" that mojib was talking about may literally have been the silence, if thats the case it very likely could be a shock drop
And I’m just trying to stay quiet
Reverse hiatus, silence should be breached today
Plus all the “stay quiet” “and I’m just trying to stay quiet” things
Being quiet is definitely a part of this album
what if the Jenna song drops tomorrow lol. it'll be 11 years since Tyler proposed i believe
that one telegram group tends to leak dates for singles a day or 2 in advance so I'm sure we'll find out somehow but if we hear nothing by wednesday I'm gonna assume the silence was to inflate the suspense tenfold then blow our minds by dropping
similar to levitate and how it had zero buildup
what if they just stay silent until everyone gives up and just goes with the flow. then they drop single 2 lol
ok everyone give up quickly
maybe they're waiting for us to stay quiet 👀👀
and honestly the dead silence tells me it's very close
quite literally "I'm just trying to stay quiet"
Or for us to get louder
@ bathtubtyler OK IM LOUD
RELEASE SINGLE NUMBER 2!!!!!'
no way its not on purpose right
i dont think we're aloud to actually @ tyler lol
Unless logistically the MV is taking forever like Paladin
I kinda think Tyler probably doesn't check the server on that account anyway
today is 10 days since their last sign of life lol if thats anything
thats also a possibility cause they did just get off of tour. and also maybe editing too
They probably just very recently filmed it if that’s the case
Nico beat up Clancy 😔
Tho Tyler still has fluffy hair so who knows what that means
average top discord experience
tbf they were finishing the next semester vid like 2 hours before it dropped, theyre like VERY strict with deadlines
theres a recent picture of him?
The fireworks photo
josh was seen with fresh dye like 3 weeks ago
oh i didn't see that 😭
He was seen like July 2nd ish and man was not bald
or 2 and a half so id have to assume they shot it late june
i mean i think single 2 wont be lore. i think the continuation of Paladin/The Contract will be on album release. singles 2 and 3 will prob just be normal videos
Very strict w deadlines but delayed the entire Clancy album to finish the MVs 😭
agreed, similar to clancy to kinda drag the lote
yea exactly
"reminding us why we fight right before we do" was clancy tour, i assume we fight with the next video, and the lore concludes at the end of the album cycle
they wouldnt end the lore then just go on with breach til 2027
my theory is lore video on album release. then lore conclusion video in 2026 and they do a 2026-2027 world tour representing everything about the dema storyline
If the tracklist is to be believed it all sounds pretty lore-y to me
the options are:
- no lore MV
- Time jump lore
- Tyler too lazy to shave head
- No MV/not filmed yet/something sinister
It has to be. I’ve gone through two separate puzzles and received data that all lines up together. Unless there is something I’m missing, we start with the end of TDC into the hiatus, break silence, then trench double drop and bandito tour announcement. You know, now that I say that, the correlation of the tour announcement may reference the track list announcement here. A source that had been mentioned previously has said 3 singles and that is why we haven’t seen the tracklist, this could be what that is about. All the boxes are checked as far as I can tell though. Thoughts?
bruh i just want a single
this is a v interesting take actually cuz ive been saying itd mirror trench, i did a lil thread on it. this would mean tracklist with single 2
All of the numbers match. It is showing different in execution, but it all lines up just the same.
nothing's going to happen
today?
Nothing happened today, nothing will happen tomorrow.. nothing will ever happen.
my beloved blissful nothing
Nothing gonna be second track !
no think
No Kin is maybe typo for no thing
oh no
I’ve gotten so much work done today I hope they never release a new single
(Reverse psychology please release a single)
new song: No Kink
new song: nikon
clancy the photographer
Do we still believe in a single dropping this week? Or just a teaser?
As much as I want to believe, I feel like Tyler decided on being annoying and is making us wait another week
(Please just post SOMETHING this week)
I think we're getting the single this week without a lot of time to lead up to it
also, to be fair, it is still monday. we have a lot of days ahead of us where things might happen. shouldn’t get discouraged yet
trust tomorrow is the day
let’s be real thinking it was gonna be on monday is pure delusion
announcement tomorrow probably. i can 100% see the 10th, i was hoping the 9th for lore's sake but the contract could've come out on the 9th and didn't
i’m convinced tomorrow or wednesday and then single drop on thursday
levitate could've come out on the 9th too but it came on the 8th, kinda a distant comparison but doing a trench release on the 9th would have been really smart and it didn't happen
i don’t mean this in a bad way
leak/blurry post on the 9th is v possible though
backslide was announced by tyler in the evening on the monday before release but that isn't really anything to go off
i also think the pre-release announcements in the past might have been due to apple music leaking track lengths. if this mirrors trench correctly they might shock drop but id expect an announcement by wednesday night
delicious delusions
what do you think the
chances are of something
happening tonight? my
answer is 0.1%
out of boredom i upgraded
my the contract teasers
thing
at this point i dont think anythings gonna happen i think itll be a surprise drop and maybe not even this week
so it'll be over a month
between singles
would be a first for them but i guess so 🤷♂️
4 weeks is actually the standard for most artists unless its a gigantic release gap, 5 weeks is somewhat common too though
so basically this week or next
still COULD be announced this week but I'm not getting my hopes up
and what if it's not this or
next week?
then its so fucking over lol
god forbid they keep quiet
because we haven't figured
something out
"reminding me of the hiatus" chill guys we have essentially a release date (or at least month if it isn't exactly the 5th) for a new album
we aren't starved for content, the album is releasing just two months
2 months is long enough to forget it’s happening if TOP stay silent until then
maybe no more news on singles or a tracklist, but if this is a lore packed album, they likely don't want to put out too much right now
welllll i think that's called impatience
we have a confirmed album and tour leg
Going off topic, yk your name is a Half Alive song title
They're not going to stay silent the entire time until the album comes out, that would be rather stupid I wanna say
some artists go years without ANY information and then shadow drop albums
also think about the amount of building up to the announcement of breach and the contract.. clancy had NONE of that
yes that's where i made the name
Soo they shoot the contract MV during Birmingham show.. so what if they still dont have MV for new single like maybe they doing right now small things like post production so that’s why they are silent
If The contract is first single they shoot it really late
What no, it was the day after the Manchester show
Oh sorry my bad I mixed up the two shows .
But still it was one of the last shows
4 weeks before release is a pretty standard timeframe to shoot a mv if its done right tbf
next semester was only a week before release
dawg it’s fucking monday they obviously wasn’t gonna announce it today chill we been sayin nothing is happening till wednesday tuesday the earliest 😭😭😭
they ALWAYS silent af between singles yet every time they do it yall get overly dramatic 😭
i was just telling them that shooting a mv 4 weeks before release is normal 😭
who told us nothing would
happen?
7/9 is the day probably its 27 days from the contract and 27 days was between overcompensate and next semester
we KNOW they are more strict than ever on this album rollout it’s granted that we would have less insider stuff
no it's been a long time
since they've gone so dead
quiet
no one but it was granted why would they do that on a friday or a monday
it’s either a wednesday or a thursday
do i gotta remind yall how silent they were from overcompensate to next semester
in fact they were FORCED to announce that song 😭
well i'm gonna count the
number of posts between
overcompensate and next
semester
why u typing like that dawg
Why are we policing people’s expectations when literally none of us have any idea or insider information
That’s the fun of it
i’m just saying there is no need to be so dramatic
ive seen people be like omg this album is gonna be delayed
bro wtf
chill just wait for wednesday
I’m joking
maybe tuesday but im positive on wednesday
it wasn’t directed to you personally sorry if it looked like that
nono i just wondered about
it myself
there were 5 posts
lowkey was abt to say i think the leaks were the only reason they announced it so early
and 9 posts since the
contract so yeah
i legit think what they are gonna do with this song is what they were gonna do with ns originally
i’m on a trip anyways so i guess i won’t be there for the announcement but trust me it’ll be there
tomorrow or wednesday
genuinely amen, 2 days notive makes sense or a literal shadow drop but
kinda hate shadow drops cuz we dont get the "ONLY 2 MORE DAYS" hype
I think a shadow drop is def possible, they seem to really like shaking up expectations this time around and doing things that will be memorable
well that's overkill because
they still haven't
announced an exact release
date and in fact the album
can't be delayed
yeah alot of this rollout has been very different from usual, pre single album announcement for example
yeahhh but i also love going into the song knowing NOTHING at all
backslide was good, no snippet but we knew a date
at this point I just want the music, we've been dealing with silence, 2 days knowing it's coming will add nothing for me especially if there's no teaser and it's just confirmation that it's coming
cause with the contract i could guess by the videos it would be a guitar track with a weird structure n shit by the snippets but going in blind is also really cool
exactly yeah
i mean we do know it is september 5 cause if they don’t drop it by that time the physical cds and vinyls will be sent anyways so it’s just a granted leak it is just odd that they haven’t posted themselves
they could change that date if they need to, though it's risky because some stores might not get the memo
yeah that’s the thing
forgot the line was a shadow drop but idk if that really counts
gorillaz did a shadow drop in 2022 and it was horrifying so thats what i think of when i think shadow drop
wouldnt count that really cuz every artist involved did those posts
i mean as a single
I wouldn’t count it as a shadow drop
yeah i didn't rly think but thats all theyve done without announcement in a bit
I still think we’ll get an ominous tease before they release a single fully
Even if it’s day before
considering the trench parallells I'm locking in my prediction, i think graffiti is single 2
RAAAAHHHHHH part 2
Bored too. There is a pattern if you match the actual date with the countdown day.
3+9 days = 12 1+2 = 3
5+7 days = 12 1+2 = 3
7+5 days = 12 1+2 = 3
9+3 days = 12 1+2 = 3
10+2 days = 12 1+2 = 3
11+1 days= 12 1+1+1=3
12+0 days= 12 1=2=3
Also, 3+3+3+3+3+3+3=21
2+1=3
If 3 is the pattern and we start tomorrow morning with three days to go, that would be:
7/8: 3 days
7/9: 2 days
7/10: 1 day
7/11: 0 days
Still on track for the 7/11! Think history will repeat itself?
LEVEL UP: You are now level 5!
Isn’t that a Saturday? I don’t think they’ve ever released music on Saturday..
Would be interesting to see I guess..
11th is this Friday.
Oh wait my math wasn’t mathing sorry 😭
No worries. You know what happens on Friday, right?
Yeah ngl I could see that then, Friday would be cool (I want Thursday cause I’m greedy) also yeah lots of music artists release music on fridays
Unless you’re talking about something else??? 🤔
Nope that’s it. Well, we might get loud.
shock drop 12am et
😬
me when i lie
they need to drop at least a teaser soon 
today 
please
hey you said tomorrow or the tenth soooo
Please. 😭
no news until 9th July..
😔
u doing better?
Still not 100% but not as sick as before
yay, good..
2 more days clikkies.. 2 more days
imagine still no sign of life from them.. 💀
They wouldn’t do two weeks of silence
There’s no way
what if.......
we should get car radio redux atp..
Gahhhhh
14th anniversary of RAB… perfect day to post smth hehe
it’s also 4 years since they released the saturday MV
its happening soon gang
Can’t. Awake, needing to contact a million psychologists and psychotherapists. It’s urgent 😕
It’s 2am aaaa
???
Just more health stuff
It’s chronic 😭 I wish it worked that way but thank you
i wish
if nothing happens today i’m gonna slightly crash out, if nothing happens tmrw im gonna crash out a bit more and if nothing happens for the rest of the week im fr fully crashing out
we’ve been clowning for this second single for about 3 weeks
can’t wait to get disappointed in 10 hours and repeat it every day
😭 fr
true
HAPPY RAB ANNIV DAY
forest my beloved
Atp I’m going like ‘did it finally happen?’ With every single ping I get man

Today’s the day
||for nothing
||
i have come to accept it tbh
the acceptance phase
I’m trapped, stuck in a cycle I’ve never been able to break (being disappointed around 9am when nothing happens)
i am rly starting to think this is rly intentional
The Contract made sense to tease that way
Now it's like, pure black, suspense, cliffhanger
they're probably gonna shadow drop, or tease it just before it releases
next song is just absolutely silence with at the end Tyler saying ''oh you wanted us to start?''
I mean in the context of The Contract, this makes a lot of sense imo
I think the random periods of silence are meant to mirror the heavy silence of the cliffhanger moment in Paladin
yes yes exactly
Which might imply that the next single finally follows up on that
this is what i'm thinking
and so, it's gonna shadow drop or have very few teasing or very late
They have less than two months there can be only so much silence
and we know we're gonna get 3 singles and most probably one in July
if they don’t do a shadow drop then i think theyll do a day before announcement or smth
heavy silence heavy breath
they've been in that damn
tower for over a year
Announcement tomorrow and single Thursday?
dema citizens have already
forgotten what vialism is
wait yall todays the 14th anniversary of RAB. what are the chances we get something today? they posted the music video for Saturday on the 10th anniversary of RAB. sooooo 👀
goner is 14th song on
blurryface and nills was
mentioned in fpe eu leg
letters
sooooo 14 👀
7/8
fairly local and stressed out
are 7 and 8 circles on
blurryface cover
Those both had deep Blurryface vocals
the judge and doubt are
7 and 8 songs on blurryface
both were tied with the
clancy world tour
i think this is a good theory as well
Are y’all gonna stone me if I suggest that some of these postings on anniversaries could be coincidental
thats possible ig
i assume that the silence is
due to the rendering time
of the next video scenes
I don't think they'll post for rabs anniversary given they like to pretend it doesn't exist
True, the contract was only filmed after the Manchester show
:(
||heathens, the music video where josh isn’t real, dropping on the anniversary of arguably the most popular fanfic in this fandom that has a plotline about josh not being real||
sigh
did you get a warning?
i forgot about banned words 
yea but then you sent it with spaces in order to still be able to say it
it's against the rules for a reason smh 
hope the bullets are rubber
bullets
Just checking where are the "words you shouldn't say" rules?
i actually wanted to
commit the perfect crime
but forgot the autoban
what two weeks of silence
does to people:
guess it is tomorrow then
18 minutes
probably tmrw
We been saying this for the past month tbh
next stop is noon
real 😭 and then when it gets to friday we say it’s gotta be next week
We should start taking bets
i swear if nothing happens this week again i’m gonna crash out
reasonable
1 minute!!!
wow
voices of the void
the voices
the
10 min? Lol
3 minutes and now the voices say they meant tomorrow
MY HALL UCINA TIONI USEDT OSEE
1:15pm
Maybe we are missing something. There are multiple dmaorg letters dated or related to this week. The eye started opening for Trench tomorrow and the double drop was on 7/11 btw
next stop is 1+pm
Gonna go ahead and right off today and make a guess we’re getting a last minute announcement either the day before it drops or the day of it dropping in the morning.
ye
this is controversial but i actually wish we had some sort of leak lol just to give us smth
mojib has been so silent 😭
Has anyone checked the registrars recently
shadow dropping ;-;
yes, nothing new so far
theres a part of me that feels like we'll also get the opener(s) for tour when the next single drops
i guess the opener is the contract >> overcompensate
just like in tour marketing tweets
no i mean like the artist openers
aah got it
the opening acts
mojib has said the tracklist and album is registered, i guess we either need to dig extremely deep or its hidden/secured
not public
Josh Dunnit, I’m gonna riot
they really don't want to repeat the mistake they made with trench
15 minutes trust
I wasn’t here yet then, what happened?
Didn’t shit just leak like crazy for trench
well basically the titles for jumpsuit and nico and the niners were leaked on a copyright database
Like you could ask Alexa to play my blood before it came out lmao
before the album was even announced
i'm assuming that's why nowadays they make the songs public in databases way after they release
overcompensate went public like 2 months after it came out
the contract after like a couple days
Oh wow 😭
not today not today oh no no no no