Leak Theories - SPOILERS (DO NOT SEND LEAK)

[wintry sleet]

Or is it confirmation bias from shirt nation? Were just not gonna know 💯 til the band drop the tracklist

[stone flame]

are you just saying that because of drag path

[odd schooner]

I’m still split on it.

[lofty pike]

I really really hope this one is real. I’m lean towards real, and have since the first time it leaked

[odd schooner]

I’m so tired

[rapid nest]

drag path is real regardless of if this tracklist is real or not

im sure of it

[odd schooner]

And graffiti

[keen oak]

i hope 😭

[stiff fable]

the Reddit man didn’t have any credit, true, but the image itself is absolutely perfect so if it was faked it is the best fake of all time. the insider source is very reliable and a popular insider for a variety of bands though, so he is definitely to be trusted when he says he confirmed it

[rapid nest]

it will be in the album

[prime sparrow]

wishing for you 🙏🏻

[keen oak]

🟦🔌 please be real

[odd schooner]

T-shirt names is def song names tho

[stiff fable]

for that reason yes but also Flowers? Glass Lungs? Seldom Surface? Crossfire? Dude these all sound fucking SICK

[lofty pike]

We have our reliable source tho, so it’s not just based on the shirts

[keen oak]

its gonna be the next kitchen sink lyrically imo

[stiff fable]

you’re still what

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1223785064370929744/1344730358184284230/image0.gif

[prime sparrow]

I was talking bout the redditman when I said trusted source, wasnt talking bout our beloved mojib..

[rapid nest]

https://tenor.com/view/sick-tyler-joseph-gif-5602107

[wintry sleet]

Mojib really doesn't seem to know enough lore to be confirming stuff 100%

[prime sparrow]

BEST NAMES AFTER TRENCH!

[stiff fable]

ahh yes okay. mojib the goat, reddit man could’ve been lying but I still think that image was real. every pixel was damn near perfect

[keen oak]

YES and Flowers remember was the name of the Breach album image when the page first went up

[lofty pike]

SPLIT REFERENCE

[odd schooner]

It sounds too perfect 🤔

[stiff fable]

[rapid nest]

do yall want a boingy ponky song or smth in the album what do yall want lol

[stiff fable]

it’s just the right amount of weird but still believable. better than “door keys” 💀

[odd schooner]

Split sounds like it’s gonna be like a backslide 2

[wintry sleet]

Feels like flowers could have been a trench song title lol

[lofty pike]

I dont think he needs to know lore or be a clikkie to confirm

[rapid nest]

Lloyd

[odd schooner]

It sounds better than the craving

[lofty pike]

100% 😭

[prime sparrow]

but what bout that one weird logo.. which was looking different to its low res version..?

[keen oak]

its getting down to the wire with these tracklist leaks

idk if i feef at home

[rapid nest]

the what

[prime sparrow]

what was llyod anyway?!

[rapid nest]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-say-that-say-that-agian-marvel-fantastic-gif-12441585058103544841

[odd schooner]

Toad barrow

[keen oak]

op my bad forgot i took blue, the wire's all yours

[stiff fable]

it looks slightly different but still not definitely wrong…idk, that’s the best argument against it but we still don’t know what it’s actually supposed to be

[prime sparrow]

yea that too

[rapid nest]

probably crossfire (?)

[odd schooner]

I don’t believe the tracklist because there isn’t any Gadzooks! on it

[lofty pike]

Which one

[rapid nest]

oh jesus gazdooks

[wintry sleet]

The whole do you feel at home thing thou, he doesn't realise we know them from shirt nation that's what I'm saying, it could be real but we don't know 100 but he's seems confused because the possible leaked tracklists are all v similar

[keen oak]

can you show the logo ur talking abt?

[prime sparrow]

u have that square with plus on top in it

[prime sparrow]

my lawyer have advised me to not interact in this discussion further...

[lofty pike]

The diamond shaped one? That’s on the official website

[stiff fable]

I can’t believe this was fake

[random pivot]

"gadzooks"

[main knoll]

It’s the second one from the left here #1212499372810575962 message

[lofty pike]

This is from the official merch site. That new symbol is there.

[keen oak]

who the heck started the fricken inferno theory did anyone actually believe that

[blazing breach]

clancy omega

flowey

[stiff fable]

oh yea it’s there, but on the UO one it was a lot clearer. some people think the person tried to recreate it but got it wrong

that’s from the UO one

[prime sparrow]

THIS IS GIVING NO CHANCES!

[naive hemlock]

f (6) is half of l (12) so potential double album hint

[lofty pike]

Ohhh yes I forgot about that

[stiff fable]

I’m still thinking real, but I can see why it’s questionable

[keen oak]

so many people have said that the text doesn't line up... but i think the official one we see on the t-shirt for example is just there as a placeholder so it can't be enhanced, unlike what happened with UO

[blazing breach]

flowey in reverse is yewolf
kanye west feature on breach confirmed

[random pivot]

i still feel like the image itself is faked but somehow the person did know the tracklist and used a fake image to make it harder to be traced back to him

[prime sparrow]

but now I think bout it.. it do look believable..

confirmation bias?

[stiff fable]

agree either that or this graphic is gonna be on something that hasn’t even been released yet

[odd schooner]

The rest of the names sounds somewhat believable but genuinely what the fuck were they thinking with Gadzooks 😭

[keen oak]

6/12 the contract dropped

[remote tusk]

I am still a tiny bit skeptical

[stiff fable]

nahhh even Nocturnal Sunshine goofy asf

[lofty pike]

The text doesn’t line up bc the other one we see is the copyright stuff

[odd schooner]

Good Day ahh song title 😭

[keen oak]

like the official album art 🥹🙏 (i think that would be sick)

[naive hemlock]

right, it was hinting at breach before breach was announced 😭😭

[stiff fable]

I fear the album art itself will not change 😞 I would love if it did, with the title and track list it looks even better, but that would be selling a product differently from how it actually is which I think violates some advertising laws

[naive hemlock]

oh DAMN that too

[keen oak]

you meant feef right not fear

[odd schooner]

I’m still manifesting a documentary on the making of Clancy/Breach. Or even better a documentary that showcases their journey from 2015-2025

[lofty pike]

Feef means so many things

[random pivot]

i hope not i think as a cover art it’s way more powerful without text and photography wise it kinda ruins the composition and meaning of it

[keen oak]

i don't think altering packaging does that, because its not lying about the product

also im pretty sure there is a * somewhere saying subject to change

[lofty pike]

Can we just get an entire series, thanks

[stiff fable]

[prime sparrow]

its feefuly crafted..

[stiff fable]

maybe it will change then

I do definitely like the title and tracklist version better

but also the plain one is fucking sick anyways

[odd schooner]

A Netflix docu-series and each episode is an era 😭

[random pivot]

plain one is 11 times better imo

[prime sparrow]

a 21 ep series

[keen oak]

how much money would you give for a twenty one pilots netflix series

lore related

[prime sparrow]

they cant.. actually

[odd schooner]

Fuck it let’s just manifest the twenty one pilots bio pic. It’s time

[lofty pike]

I’m feefing done with this feef 😤

[keen oak]

wdym they can't 😭

[prime sparrow]

language starbird..

[keen oak]

what the feef

this is feefing me out

[lofty pike]

Well I have actually no money lol

[prime sparrow]

we are just broke peeps.. we just cant

[lofty pike]

Like $0

[odd schooner]

I’m still recovering from tour

[lofty pike]

No bank account, no cash, no nothin

[lofty pike]

I want to go so bad

[keen oak]

oh ok i was thinking you were saying like netflix physically can't and never will and im like noooo that would be so sickkk

[wintry sleet]

The st Vincent title on this record is printed on the clear vinyl sleeve not the actual cover, I hope we might get something similar for breach with the title and tracklist

[lofty pike]

Please I would love that 😭

Don’t have Netflix tho so I wouldn’t get to watch it

[stiff fable]

Oooo I’d like that

[wintry sleet]

Would be sick

[prime sparrow]

I think my account got blocked.. I need to go to bank next weekend

[rapid nest]

@stiff fable can you look at the Hasitleaked server?

[keen oak]

wow i left and so did everyone else 😭

[prime sparrow]

nd now I sit in silence..

[oak dome]

i hate you all

ngl

[prime sparrow]

I hate you too honey

[sterile glen]

i love you guys❤️ in a cool uncle way

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-joseph-explaining-and-getting-frustrated-tyler-joseph-clancy-stream-gif-gif-17648406094436134304

[keen oak]

quiet is violent

[gentle rose]

YO THE TRACKLIST IS GONE FROM BANQUET RECORDS

[smoky tangle]

yooo they removed the tracklist

[random pivot]

daamn

[remote tusk]

[lilac sandal]

Interesting, and no response to me

[gentle rose]

Alr thank goodness I took a screenshot

[main knoll]

💀💀💀

This album cycle is so unreal already lmao

[prime sparrow]

send

[gentle rose]

I only wanted to see the tracklist so idk if this shows enough

[prime sparrow]

thanks kinton my beloved..

[jolly oyster]

Crazy night

[hearty idol]

These titles are way too in theme with the album, there's 0% chance this is real. There's no off-the-wall Pet Cheetah or Bounce Man or Oldies Station or something that makes us question whether these are real. You know that'll be on the final record. If it looks too in line with what we're expecting, it's definitely not real.

[gentle rose]

It was on a reliable record store website just so you know

[twilit locust]

Urban outfitter leak truthers riiiise up this is two sources with the same tracklist

I’m very excited. Don’t see any reason a record store would accidentally include a fake tracklist.

Or deliberately include a fake one, either.

14 songs is a dream lengthwise too

[twilit locust]

Cos it was real 💅

[gentle rose]

Yeah exactly

[gentle rose]

Yeah but there are a bunch of ppl thinking it’s only one disc which if so, the songs would be short as hell

I definitely don’t believe that mainly cause TOP aren’t THAT absorbed in the industry standard song length

[twilit locust]

Hmmm

Yeah whatever max length or max data can be mixed and burned to a disc is possible. I agree and don’t think they’ll be planning to keep to a standard of either too short or long. Some tracks could even be intermissiony and compensate for others being extra long. We have no way of knowing yet 🤸🏻

[gentle rose]

I really don’t want Breach to be shorter than 50 minutes especially since every 14 track TOP album has been over that amount

[wintry sleet]

Amazon has it listed as a single vinyl in a gatefold jacket

[stone flame]

most of my gatefolds have 2 discs but there’s maybe… one that’s a single vinyl

[wintry sleet]

Clancy is gatefold with one vinyl yes? I'm not at home to look at my copy

[keen oak]

50/14 is 3.57 which converted is about 3:34 per song... that average is pretty good

[keen oak]

meant to reply to this for message above

i would also like to say: i would prefer quality over quantity. I don't need another isle of flightless birds, but another levitate would be cool, even tho levitate is much shorter

[gentle rose]

They do?

[wintry sleet]

No I've loads that are gatefold with single vinyl just depends on how the artists wants it

[lofty pike]

Ughhh when are we gonna get something from the boys, I’m impatient 😔

[cobalt fiber]

Clancy is a gatefold with a single vinyl for a good recent example lol

Someone pointed that out ignore me I did not read up enough

[loud sluice]

🎯 Mission Objective: Unlock the New Single!
🗝️ Task: Stream “The Contract” a total of 10,000 times
🔒 Status: Locked
📈 Progress: 969/10,000
📂 Reward: Access to the NEW SINGLE

[sterile glen]

i legit thought you were a scam account at first bro

[loud sluice]

LMAO

[stone flame]

sorry for talking about my personal experience with my own record collection to provide further context about what might be included in a gatefold

[keen oak]

i have streamed the contract enough already ill just wait for the next single to drop 😭

[prime sparrow]

"and now I am just tryna stay quiet"

[keen oak]

imagine they don't release any more singles

(not gonna happen)

i hope

Flowers better be next

[random pivot]

well we already know they are dropping 3

counting the contract

[serene sapphire]

flowers was the name of that one jpg right?

[random pivot]

yeah

[loud sluice]

yup, they cliffhang us for months (josh gives tyler the jacket), and then that's it

breach was just a hallucination

[keen oak]

how do we know for sure tho? i mean ik its gonna happen bc they do that for every album but has it actually been 100% confirmed

[keen oak]

yeah also 2nd in the tracklist leak

[wintry sleet]

The leak guy said 3

[modern bloom]

what jpg?

[serene sapphire]

The leak isnt 100% confirmed, it could just be made by someone who put a tracklist together with words and sentences we already have

[random pivot]

mojib

[rapid nest]

holy shit hai noelle

[keen oak]

the original album art on the website jpg name was Flowers

probably ripped off of the single cover

[serene sapphire]

when the breach version of the bands website launched, the background had the name "flowers"

[keen oak]

who is mojib

[serene sapphire]

a reliable "leaker"

[wary dome]

Between overcompensate and first teaser of next semester its 21 days now we have 15 days after contract so my guess is 3 or 5 July for new teaser

[feral monolith]

4th of July single

Remix of the star spangled banner

[modern bloom]

hai :3

[loud sluice]

MOJIB IS TYPING

[glacial crane]

clancy had a 6 and a half minute song and a few 2 minute songs so tbh this averages out

like if we count that theres always a 2 minute song and theres never usually a long ass track like paladin so 14 tracks makes sense

[upbeat willow]

Bro is writing a whole novel

[unkempt wagon]

That tracklist is really long as hell 🔥

[loud sluice]

i cant

[wary dome]

He’s writing every lyrics from breach 🙏

[upbeat willow]

He’s transcribing every note

[rapid nest]

hes typing since 11 minutes

[upbeat willow]

keysmash 11 track album confirmed

[rapid nest]

and he stoped

[unkempt wagon]

It's so mojibover guys

[loud sluice]

actually we havent asked anything

[random pivot]

so?

[granite monolith]

Any feef?

[blazing breach]

he doesn't type anymore?

[sacred cobalt]

Aight guys so if the tracklist is actually real, do we think the UO image was also real? What i mean is it seems weird that before the leak, there were screenshots of the product page on UO that didnt have the tracklist, so they'd have to add the tracklist, and then remove it again, in such a short time so that only 1 guy noticed. What if the guy that leaked it got it from somewhere else, and staged the UO thing?

[thin copper]

if that leaked tracklist is real then i'm scared at the direction the story is taking lmaoo

not in a bad way but like wdymmm halfway home??? BLUE wire??? is this really you?? do you feel at home??????????

CROSSFIRE???

[granite monolith]

I think it's been obvious that the album would kinda follow on from the tour letters and I'm glad I was right

Issue is how the fuck is this the ending? Feels more like the second act

[thin copper]

Do You Feel At Home could sound like an ending tbh

[remote tusk]

triple album

[blazing breach]

have you ever thought that they may have already shot the final mv right after paladin strait?

just for the consistency of clancy's look

[gentle rose]

Imo is this really you and do you feel at home will be a 2 part ending. Is this really you will be the final battle when Clancy finds out what he really wants to do and does it, and do you feel at home will be an epilogue with Clancy looking around and debating does he feel at home or not, ultimately concluding he does

[keen oak]

i can't wait for blue wire it sounds like it will be different from the rest of their stuff based on the name

[blazing breach]

but glass lungs hits harder imo

[thin copper]

i'd say it depends on how the story goes tbh

[keen oak]

triple album would be insane but how likely is it 😭

[keen oak]

it's gonna be the goner of breach

for sure

[blazing breach]

well the contract again left us at this moment in the tower
so the final or pre-final mv should start from here

[blazing breach]

why goner?

[thin copper]

i don't think what's after PS is directly the end of the story

[blazing breach]

fair

[thin copper]

unless it is and all of Breach happens in Clancy's mind lmao

but that'd be a bit disappointing and too easy

[blazing breach]

like most of clancy mvs

[blazing breach]

but yeah

ngl there's a lot of hints that we're going to delve into the past

of clancy's life
or dema history

or both

and i suspect that by breach tyler means breaking down fourth wall

[keen oak]

i have a feeling because its called glass lungs it will be like a cry for help kinda and be really powerful

[blazing breach]

huh didn't think in that way
i think it's a song about being able to sing

[feral monolith]

No you’re thinking about Long Lungs

[blazing breach]

nah
lungs that fragile as glass

[keen oak]

what if glass lungs is a Jenna Song... hear me out here

something like "i don't have the words to say because of my glass lungs" or smth like that

[lone olive]

Could also be like how he has to be careful and calm with his breathing or his glass lungs will break and he won’t be able to breathe anymore. Maybe an anxiety kinda song?

[shell shard]

Anxiety song 💔💔

[night oar]

I was thinking similar. Kinda has a feel of what he describes in Next Semester “might suffocate”. Not the song per sé, but that feeling.

[polar condor]

Do we think drag path (devil’s eyes) will be a single?

[granite monolith]

I dont see drag path or graffiti being singles tbh

[coral hound]

So the previous leak is basically confirmed by this new leak right??

[lofty pike]

I also guessed glass lungs as Jenna’s song

Have we heard back from Mojib? He said he’d talk more tonight

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 14!

[shell shard]

not that I know of but I did see him lurking in the channel tho

[lofty pike]

That’s how I feel about it, but there’s still doubt among the thread

[last cove]

makes it more likely for sure, but It's definitely not confirmed,

they took down their tracklist, which means either,
It was real and they took it down since it wasn't supposed to be out there yet (but surprising that not a single other store had it listed if it was already given to record stores)
or an employee mistakingly added the tracklist assuming it was directly confirmed, and they took it down after realizing their mistake

[granite pawn]

Iirc that wasn't official

That was just some employee on the website trolling

[olive hornet]

Atp I think Flowers is the only one that we have genuine evidence for, as the Breach artwork file was originally named "Flowers" on the website

A good portion of the "leaked" tracklist just seems like educated guesses based on what people have been talking about even before Breach was announced

I also missed the info about this Mojib guy, why are people so trusting of them?

[coral hound]

This is likely too ugh

[lilac sandal]

He's a long-time established reliable insider

[random pivot]

any news

[granite monolith]

has made multiple calls about this era that were impossible to predict

including knowing DYFAH without knowing really anything about the tour or teasers

[tawny wigeon]

sup leakers

[thin copper]

i hope they'll drop the tracklist with the second single

[blazing breach]

how much % do you trust to UO thingy?

[naive hemlock]

but i don’t think this verifies it, I’m not sure they would outright put a song as a file name, remember that chlorine was all the periodic table info

[wintry sleet]

Flowers sound like a trench song

[thin copper]

50/50

i think the shirt itself is probably fake, but the tracks could be real or partially real

[rapid nest]

tracklist is real i thinks

[mental ermine]

banquet records leaked it as well, it is real

exact same tracklist

[wintry sleet]

They've also since pulled it down again, that doesn't confirm it unfortunately

[celest gyro]

if the tracklist is true, how many singles yall think we getting?

[gentle rose]

Two more

[rapid nest]

3 in total

[celest gyro]

i'd say 3 more singles only cause Trench and Clancy had a total of 4

[gentle rose]

Technically Clancy had 3. The craving single version isn’t on Clancy

[rapid nest]

we had routines

ritn was a radio single

[thin copper]

was post-album release tho

[celest gyro]

well yea but a version of The Craving was released

[rapid nest]

mhm

[gentle rose]

Routines as a single is such a joke it was marketed for a minute

[rapid nest]

it literally is a single tho

[gentle rose]

It’s not really

[rapid nest]

but we did get confirmation from mojib for 3 singles

[celest gyro]

Routines was a promotional/radio single

[gentle rose]

Including the contract?

[celest gyro]

not a "before album" single

[rapid nest]

yeah

[thin copper]

tbh how i could see it going is: one single releasing in July, and then two possible routes =>

• another single close to album release or in August but no other single pre-album release
• another single in August, and a single very close if not on the same day as the album

[celest gyro]

whos mojib?

[celest gyro]

yeah i can see this honestly

[rapid nest]

VERY trustworthy insider/leaker

[celest gyro]

is there a source i can look at?

[thin copper]

I believe The Craving (well, single version) released like right right before Clancy? Just a few days before

[celest gyro]

yeah literally 2 days before Clancy lol

[cobalt fiber]

Can’t send invite links here but if you google hasitleaked twitter there’s a discord link in the bio

[thin copper]

then obviously we could get a couple post-album release singles over time

[celest gyro]

Trench's single rollout was weird. 2 singles in July. 2 singles in August. album in October lol

[cobalt fiber]

Mojib is a very famous “leaker” who gives info about tons of bands, he doesn’t actually leak files himself but he will confirm if things have leaked/give vague hints about release schedules or album rollouts

[thin copper]

and NATN divided in two releases, song then MV a few weeks after

[celest gyro]

yeah same with My Blood. song in late August, MV on album release day

[thin copper]

oh wtf rly?

[celest gyro]

yea

[thin copper]

i forgot about that

[celest gyro]

Jumpsuit and Levitate were the only Trench singles released with a music video

[cobalt fiber]

The did the same thing with Saturday for sai, single dropped for the rollout but the video released after

Lane boy also released that way for BF

[celest gyro]

theres usually 1 single that doesn't get a video until after the album or on album release day

[cobalt fiber]

Yeah did a dive into all their single releases a couple weeks ago and Clancy is the only album to not have one of the release singles drop without a music video being ready yet

I guess it depends on if they plan to do a video for every song again, we might have a repeat of Clancy, but wouldn’t be surprised if we go back to a more normal video schedule

[celest gyro]

i think it'll be a more normal video rollout cause even Tyler said, videos can be pricey. thats why a lot of the Clancy videos were low budget

plus they just got off a tour and going back on tour this fall

[cobalt fiber]

Here’s mojib talking about the 3 singles by the way

Took me a second to find the screenshot

[celest gyro]

thank youuu 🙂

so if they really spread out the 3 singles, my guess would be single 2 on July 10, single 3 on August 7. album less than a month later on September 5th as we all know im assuming

[cobalt fiber]

He also referred to it again here

[celest gyro]

so i wonder if each single will be lore related kinda like how Trench had that trilogy

[cobalt fiber]

Ik discord messages don’t mean much on their own but if you look up hasitleaked you can get an idea of his credibility, he’s one of the most prolific inside sources for music ever and has been doing this for years

If you join the server the twenty one pilots thread is under rock-alternative-metal, you can see all the discussion there

He’s supposed to pop back in at some point for more info but no idea when that’ll be

[lofty pike]

How rude 😔💔

[lofty pike]

I still laugh at this because he makes it sound like he’s being kept hostage in an underground facility and he has limited time to get a message out there before someone catches him 😭😭

[feral monolith]

Underrated reply

[shell shard]

someone got it lol

finally

[random pivot]

anything new

[rapid nest]

no

[random pivot]

damn

[feral monolith]

Did you get your photos printed?

[thin copper]

https://tenor.com/view/bogos-binted-what-alien-bogosbinted-gif-21938393

[fiery nova]

Bogos binted

[feral monolith]

What

[tawny wigeon]

ANOTHER DAY OF WAITING FOR NEWS ON THE NEXT SINGLE 🔥

[blazing breach]

nothing for today

[midnight summit]

About Flowers, they upload this picture on Josh's birthday couple of years ago 👀 so the song could really be about TB himself or from his POV.

• we may have heard how it sounds at the end of The Contract MV

[lofty pike]

I told my brother Flowers better be real and if so, it’s GOTTA BE TB’s song 😭 so I’m holding onto that claim

[celest gyro]

after reading someone's post, i was thinking Flowers is gonna be Tyler's song to Jenna

[random pivot]

nah for me there is no world where tyler writes a love song named as in your face plain and obvious as flowers

it’s 100% about either trench or the banditos

[gentle rose]

Yeah I agree

[glacial crane]

"the announcement of the three" is still such an odd phrase like i don't understand what he means by that

like what is the "announcement"

and i know he was saying three singles but like that part specifically just still has me confused

[cobalt fiber]

if the contract is included in that 3 single statement i assume he's just reffering to how the band teases those singles? like the "announcement" of the contract would probably be described as all the social media teasers they did posting the small snippets with lyrics, so the specific method they use to tease the other two is also gonna be important or grand in a similar way- either that or theres some additional information bundled with the announcement of those singles? like maybe theyll reveal that every track is getting a video or theyll reveal some other significant large thing in that vein with those single drops

[glacial crane]

OHHH ok that makes alot more sense

assuming single 2 rollout has to start this week right, considering all the stuff he's said

[main knoll]

Yeah I think a popular theory rn is they’ll starting teasing the next single within a week

[glacial crane]

i think itll be july 9th cuz like 9

[feral monolith]

I think Tyler plays Mr. Game and watch cause 9

[tepid yacht]

He plays Samus haha hungry box can confirm they got a photo together.

Game and watch might be his secondary 👀

[haughty needle]

Maybe the next single is coming July 4th with the fireworks references 👀 that’s next Friday

[lofty pike]

My exact thought. I’m really hoping (if it’s real), Flowers is TB’s song or something.

I think Glass Lungs is Jenna’s

IF it’s real

[full comet]

Rad noelle pfp

[granite monolith]

I can see flowers being like bandito 2.0

[edgy wolf]

I think Flowers will have the Torchbearer interlude in it.

[granite monolith]

I dont think thatd work tbh

its in the contract, but only the music video

so itd be pretty jarring for it to work in mv, but not album

[edgy wolf]

And yet, the intro to Navigating was in the Next Semester music video.

[granite monolith]

which doesnt follow it, and is largely for the sake of being metaphorical

[edgy wolf]

It would work even better. The Contract goes into Flowers just like the music video has the snippet of TB's theme at the end.

[granite monolith]

if navigating went into next semester, then id raise an eyebrow

but its like if jumpsuit didnt end on that stinger that goes into levitating, but levitating had it

[edgy wolf]

I see what you mean. But that doesn't make it impossible at all.

[granite monolith]

not impossible, but I dont think it works so probably wont be

[edgy wolf]

As much as I'd love a seamless song transition on this album, I doubt we're getting it. Clancy moved away from that format.

[granite monolith]

honestly im kinda sad abt that

[edgy wolf]

Same...

[granite monolith]

jumpsuit into levitate was the most hype moment of all time

[edgy wolf]

Definitely.

[granite monolith]

why am i calling it levitating, damn I need sleep lmao

[edgy wolf]

Torchbearer's theme still works though as a hint to a future song tied in with an old song. It would just feel bizarre for that motif not to appear at least somewhere on the album.

Even if it's not track two.

[granite monolith]

oh for sure, itd be cool if it was a recurring motif tbh

like a quiet echo trying to bring clancy back from his current fuckery

literally "the softest echo could be enough for me to make it through"

[edgy wolf]

When I first watched The Contract MV, I was hoping the streaming version of the song would have the TB parts.

[granite monolith]

this is 2 songs in this era having the MV be better than the song itself its so bizarre

[edgy wolf]

Same with Paladin Strait ? LOL

[granite monolith]

(I do not fuck with paladin strait with break)

I liked it the first 10 times

after I downloaded a version without it and replaced it on spotify

[edgy wolf]

I don't mind the break, but the MV version manages to cut the downtime seamlessly.

[granite monolith]

I do like that theres a break, it being a minute tho is so much dead space

[edgy wolf]

Like come on. Keeping the TB parts in the song wouldn't have hurt anyone. Make a radio edit if it really bothers people.

[granite monolith]

(like I get it, the minutes silence etc but tyler whyyyy)

[edgy wolf]

If TB's interlude doesn't appear anywhere on Breach, I will be very sad.

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 13!

[granite monolith]

right?? and the hello clancy like?

I feel like thatll come back on the inevitable double album version

[edgy wolf]

Hopefully.

Teasers for The Contract started exactly two weeks before the release date.

That means we should hopefully expect...something this upcoming week?

If the release date of the next single is 7/10 as many people are clocking it, that means we're late on the teaser part.

But having a smaller, less climactic rollout for single #2 makes sense.

[granite monolith]

I mean mojib did imply something small this week, a teaser could make sense

[edgy wolf]

Let's hope...

[lofty pike]

I think that too. At least hope it. But it’s just a gut feeling I have.

Which doesn’t mean anything lol, but.

[lofty pike]

Same

[balmy smelt]

https://diskunion.net/metal/ct/detail/1009067360?srsltid=AfmBOorLZAnLA-UdYmJCcl2lbNKCypnpNgmWbceHC9UtRXkp_xyYzLh3 others???

prob nothing

[lilac sandal]

yea, that word just means "etc." basically

[balmy smelt]

I think the tracklist hasn't been shared with stores yet

I say give it a week till the stores get them. One will slip up

maybe 2 weeks

[lilac sandal]

Well

it's possible that's already what happened with Banquet

I imagine it's not meant to be shared til the second single

[balmy smelt]

possible I guess

It is odd that they took it off

[lilac sandal]

not really, multiple people emailed them about it so if it was a mistake they'd def take it down once they realized

[balmy smelt]

It did say subject to change

[balmy smelt]

odd in the sense that it almost confirms it.

[balmy smelt]

they didnt need to if they had a warning

[lilac sandal]

wym by warning?

[balmy smelt]

i mean discretion

[lilac sandal]

it's possible that they put that up if the label indicates that the album isn't finalized, which they likely would've done since we know Breach was unmastered by the time of the announcement

[balmy smelt]

They did say the tracklist wasn't final but yet they still took it down?

[lilac sandal]

They didn't say it wasn't final, just that it may potentially change

[balmy smelt]

true

[lilac sandal]

bear in mind though that they probably would've also taken it down if someone just took it from the internet and didn't verify it before putting it on there, and our emails brought it to their attention

but that seems kind of weird, and especially since they clearly saw our emails but didn't respond to either of them

[balmy smelt]

yeah, very weird..

[muted axle]

banquet also wasn't the only site to have that listed as the tracklist

[lilac sandal]

it wasn't?

Which other site listed it?

I only know of the Reddit "leak" and Album Of The Year which just added it based on someone saying it was practically confirmed

[random pivot]

one of the reasons i believed the tracklist could be 99% real is that naming a song in the middle of the album halfway home in a reassuring way and then the last one being do you feel like home? as a question is something top would do 100%

[tawny wigeon]

i hope its real cause i loev that type of tracklisting

"breaking the fourth wall" in a way, would elevate the storytelling

[gentle rose]

What said

[blazing breach]

he said the next single is called Fucking Awesome

[gentle rose]

Ha

[thin copper]

inb4 it is literally called "Fucking Awesome"

/j

[random pivot]

what else did he say?

[random pivot]

oh shit

[celest gyro]

its all fun and games until we get that insta post saying "new song, Fucking Awesome. next Thursday" 😭

[celest gyro]

FBR actually taking leaks seriously? THANK YOU

[random pivot]

so fbr is more focused on keeping track of mojib than promoting and caring about the band?

thats crazy

[blazing breach]

both

[celest gyro]

im good with that honestly. as long as no song gets leaked

[random pivot]

mhm

any other news?

also do we think theyll start with the teasers for single 2 next week?

and single release july 10th maybe

[blazing breach]

nothing new so far

[random pivot]

bet

[celest gyro]

i was honestly thinking July 10th for single 2 as well. then August 7th for single 3

[gentle rose]

Oh man that is so funny when said out loud

[blazing breach]

probably july 10-11

[random pivot]

fire

[blazing breach]

doubt about the teasers

[celest gyro]

yeah the lead single is usually the song that gets the most hype

[blazing breach]

leaning towards next semester one like

[random pivot]

how much in advance did they announce next semester

[celest gyro]

1 week i believe

[random pivot]

then id guess they would indeed announce it this week right?

sorry next week we still on sunday

[gentle rose]

Maybe a little later this week, on Thursday maybe

[random pivot]

mhm

[celest gyro]

yea i can see that

[gentle rose]

AAAAA IM SO HYPED

[gentle rose]

They better announce the breach tracklist with the next single

[blazing breach]

only one teaser before the release

[celest gyro]

i miss when tøp didnt even announce song releases 😭

[blazing breach]

but next semester was leaked

[random pivot]

yeah yeah i meant when did they announce it

[blazing breach]

the mv was released on march 27

[random pivot]

so one week

[celest gyro]

same with the song

[gentle rose]

I think 6 days before it released

[random pivot]

then id say we prolly get an announcement on wednesday

[blazing breach]

orange spine

[celest gyro]

id say Friday if it was 6 days. unless they wanna go back to their roots and drop music without a warning lol

[random pivot]

idk if they’d announce something on a friday

so we are 2 weeks away from them showing the actual tracklist (hopefully)

[lilac sandal]

hopefully more like 1.5

[stone flame]

i don’t think they’re specifically targeting a single person but the nature of leaks as a whole, especially since the promotion and marketing of this album is so tied to the lore. having leaks would directly ruin the promotion of the album. it makes sense they’re trying to stop anything from getting out, including the tracklist. there’s a reason the band hasn’t announced it yet

[lilac sandal]

I think it's more a jab at FBR's marketing, which...

fair!

[sterile glen]

i genuinely feel so bad for mojib because not only were people in his dm’s being gross but now he has to feel so paranoid with this fbr stuff

[stone flame]

he’s already so careful with what he says in the first place but some people are so ravenous in their impatience

and! in the grand scheme of things, it hasn’t even been that long since we had the contract and we’re getting a whole new album!!! i understand excitement but. i dunno

[stiff fable]

also it might not just be mojib himself they’re monitoring, but a chat room for leaks in general. any rando who has leaks would be likely to send them there in the future so they would be able to stay on top of it

[stone flame]

exactly

[random pivot]

ig what i meant to say is, do yall think they hardened the leak security as a whole after the tracklist incident (real or not)?

[digital gyro]

what if they just surprise drop the next single this thursday

[stone flame]

i feel like the leak security has already been heightened this entire era (for breach). i know there was whispers of more music for clancy but it never was leaked (publicly) what the album name was—or the fact it was a brand new album and not just a deluxe

[gentle rose]

Who knows

[lament pendant]

Would be awesome but highly unlikely imo

[lilac sandal]

I wouldn't worry about the label thing too much

They've known about him for a long time

but obviously this isn't the ideal development, we should all just chill out and not push for more and it'll be fine

[lament pendant]

Agreed, we’ve been given plenty already and the wait between singles is almost over and went by fast (imo)

[digital gyro]

how many weeks after overcompensate did next semester release

[sterile glen]

yeah i feel bad because im pretty active in that server and id hate it if ive added to the stress and chaos of it all for him 😭 this is also just a weird special situation in general with the big importance of this album

[atomic blaze]

Love mojib, used hasitleaked when I was burning cds as a teenager. hope people stop bothering him.

That being said “I thought this was just another album” makes me want to read into mojib’s comment too much lmao.

[lilac sandal]

4 (and 1 day?)

and the rollout of Breach is the exact same length so it should be 4-ish weeks

[digital gyro]

this upcoming week is week 3 right

[random pivot]

what

[lilac sandal]

Yea, I think so

[random pivot]

oh bet bet

[stone flame]

he already admitted he doesn’t know the lore, so i think he just didn’t understand the hype the fans and band have built up around it. makes me think the teasing of the upcoming singles and/or the tracklist might be related to the blurryface account or other “cryptic” means. most bands would just post single announcements. this band kinda loves to torture us for a good week before we get the official single announcement

[lilac sandal]

yes, it is 3

[atomic blaze]

It just makes me curious how this roll out is gonna shake out

[lilac sandal]

there's probably at least one big reveal they're planning during the rollout

[digital gyro]

so theoretically we should get a 1 week teaser this thursday

[atomic blaze]

There’s lore and then there’s something that makes an outsider consider it substantial

[random pivot]

specially with how weirdly silent they’ve been for now

[digital gyro]

unless they do a surprise drop next Thursday

[lilac sandal]

That's one thing that kinda bugs me about this tbh

I get the desire to build hype and word of mouth PR, but like

[sterile glen]

so funny that he’s basically admitting that the nonexistent help for marketing from the label is actually on purpose somehow

[random pivot]

lorewise you mean?

[lilac sandal]

if the plan is just to build anticipation by being silent and starving us of any info so we're desperate for anything, that's kinda annoying

[atomic blaze]

I can’t imagine wrapping it up with two more singles/mvs

[lilac sandal]

or some detail about the nature of the album, one or the other

[random pivot]

oh bet

maybe i’m misremembering or taking this out of context and he was talking about clancy into breach but i remember in an interview talking about the storyline ending and josh said they were already planning the next story and how they could tease it on this one so maybe there’s something on this rollout that slightly teases what’s next?

[atomic blaze]

I think there’d be pitchforks if they left it open ended like they did with Clancy

[stone flame]

i know the band hasn’t given any indication if we’re getting music videos for every song upon album release, but it does make me wonder, on the off chance that we, instead, get videos post-album release, how well the story will wrap up purely by music with no visual elements accompanying it. it would have to be way more narratively written, like how the outro of paladin strait was

[random pivot]

oh not open ended at all that’s not what i meant whatever is next will probably not be related at all with dema storyline im talking about for example how christmas saves the day teased scaled and icy even if it was outside of the lore

[atomic blaze]

Oh that would be cool as hell

I was thinking a bit of a sai livestream myself to wrap it up but I’d imagine if they were to do that, it would have to be ticketed and known by now

[random pivot]

obviously with how huge this clancy era is being i doubt what’s next will happen anytime soon but they could still do some little teasers

[atomic blaze]

As their marketing dude said after Clancy’s success, they have a game plan “2026 and beyond” so I’m curious beyond a tour how they keep the momentum through next year

[random pivot]

unrelated but this still baffles me cause like even if you didn’t buy a ticket you could watch the livestream was that intentional or a bug

[atomic blaze]

Did that really happen? Lmaooooo. I bought a ticket

Did you have access to the control room if you didn’t buy a ticket?

[loud sluice]

i bet there will be arg for few of the tracklist

[random pivot]

i did too i was told later 😭😭😭

[feral monolith]

Next single is called snooping as usual

[rapid nest]

pingas

[finite totem]

SnooPINGAS usual, I see?

[prime sparrow]

meanwhile awesome: 🧍🏻‍♂️

[sacred cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-mike-ehrmantraut-scream-meme-gif-3632720604925938910

[lofty pike]

RAHHH

[midnight briar]

hey what'd i miss

[prime sparrow]

my absence..

✊🏻

[midnight briar]

😭

[prime sparrow]

its mojib nd his msgs.. scroll up

[prime sparrow]

@midnight briar

my prediction is they will start teasing from 1 july.. nd they will follow this 9 days to go pattern in all single release..

so expect dead silence in between..

||I hop emy theory is completely false nd they do tease us more! 😭 ||

[gentle rose]

Yo who said that

[prime sparrow]

??

[keen oak]

Breach album is on last fm with the tracks, apparently some have been scrobbled

[rapid nest]

lastfm not trustworthy lol

anyone can add it

[keen oak]

yeah ik just interesting that it's there

[queen harness]

not interesting

anyone can upload anything and "scrobble" it

people love doing it much beofre albums actually release so they can look cool

some insane fan thought this would be funny and silly

[rapid nest]

but i think that tracklist is real

[keen oak]

me too

[rapid nest]

if you like it or not

[queen harness]

i dont care we will see when the time comes

[keen oak]

if it's not real at this point we gotta find whoever made it and throw them into the paladin strait bc they got our hopes up

[queen harness]

yay:3

[keen oak]

the song names sound so 🔥

[queen harness]

i support defenestration

[sacred cobalt]

Ngl dont like split, dont like halfway home, dont like crossfire dont like glass lungs

As titles

[lilac sandal]

join the doubter gang

[gentle rose]

What no

[queen harness]

wtf

[blazing breach]

could you please send me the link in dm?

[keen oak]

is this really you? and split are the ones im iffy on

[sacred cobalt]

Split is my least fave

[keen oak]

I feel like Glass Lungs will be the next goner

same style-ish/level of energy

i claim blue wire tho

[sacred cobalt]

Idk if they would make a goner type song fit in the middle of the tracklist

Instead of the end

[keen oak]

halfway home makes me feel like there will be a big difference from the first and second half of the album so I think its possible

[celest gyro]

if this is actually a 14 song album, how many of these do yall think we're getting live this fall? 😭

[sacred cobalt]

5

[celest gyro]

since its still "The Clancy Tour" but the "Breach" leg of it, i was thinking there might be like about an equal amount of Clancy and Breach songs

[sacred cobalt]

Ngl its time to cut off stressed out, ride, and heathens they've had their spotlight for long enough

[celest gyro]

how dare you say that

[sacred cobalt]

To make space in the setlist

[celest gyro]

but Stressed Out is so nostalgic and dope af live

[sacred cobalt]

Def is

But idk what else to cut. Maybe no SAI songs or whatever

[celest gyro]

i think they're def cutting Mulberry

[sacred cobalt]

Yeah

Even tho the lights thing was dope

[celest gyro]

it totally was. but im full expecting Mulberry to be gone sadly

[sacred cobalt]

Honestly since breach ends the lore it would be cool to have mostly lore songs on the setlist

[celest gyro]

or what if they go on a tour that starts next summer thats basically a tour for all the lore albums combined 👀

and its a world tour

[feral monolith]

They’re not going anywhere to be completely honest

[sacred cobalt]

I know

[feral monolith]

People often buy tickets just to see those

[celest gyro]

yea. cause of how popular they are, there are casual fans that go to their shows that get excited to hear those songs

[feral monolith]

Or accept tickets if they get em

Yeah exactly

[sacred cobalt]

Even tho ride this time was only performed by kids right

[main knoll]

I appreciate the dedication but I doubt (lol) that’ll ever happen. I’ve been a fan since before bf and even I’d wanna hear all of those!

[ocean knot]

You have to keep songs for causal listeners

[celest gyro]

although i will say, im shocked Chlorine wasnt on the set this tour

[main knoll]

Like I don’t go out of my way to listen to Heathens but it still goes OFF live

[ocean knot]

I also feel like they change frequently how they play them live, I enjoy the new versions every time

[main knoll]

The live version of Stressed Out they did for Clancy tour is def my fave version. Clancy Live when (I’m begging)

[sacred cobalt]

The line needs to leave tho

[ocean knot]

Heathens live is a banger

I would kill to see the line live

[celest gyro]

yea theyve literally have played 3 different versions of the outro of Stressed Out throughout their whole career: regular (but more intense) outro, Paul Meany remix outro, and the Clancy Tour outro

[keen oak]

watch it

[main knoll]

they played most of it and just invited a kid up to sing the last chorus!

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 15!

[sacred cobalt]

I didnt really remember thanks

[celest gyro]

i like the first night of tour when tyler went up to 3 different dads to sing the Ride chorus lol

[feral monolith]

Paul meany remix of stressed out went hard ngl

[ocean knot]

I feel like I’m always just so appreciative to be at a show that I never have any problems with a set list 😭

I’m to high on the vibe of being there

[main knoll]

The Dads became a problem so I’m glad he pivoted to kids. It was better anyway lol

[celest gyro]

it did but i like the clancy tour version better

[sacred cobalt]

Didnt have any problem either when i went. Im just theorizing what breach setlist is gonna look like

[ocean knot]

Mutemath remixes of the songs off of blurryface all go hard

[celest gyro]

yea i can see that and it seems like it's prepared more cause a crew member will find a kid earlier in the show then come get that kid for Ride

[sacred cobalt]

Mutemath sessions are so underrated

[celest gyro]

its so crazy how fast Tyler became friends with Paul Meany

pretty sure they met cause Mutemath opened up for the ERS Tour in 2016

[sacred cobalt]

ERS must have been crazy. I would have loved to hear mutemath and TØP back to back

[celest gyro]

i first got into twenty one pilots like 2-3 months before ERS started but i was a broke 14 year old 😭

i saw them for the first time 2 and a half years later at 17 during Bandito Tour 🙂

[feral monolith]

I saw them at ERS but I don’t remember mutemath’s performance

Just that I heard kitchen sink live

[oak dome]

@queen harness yo have you tried being less of an asshole and let people do leak theories in the damn leak theory chat ?

always so damn negative

[tawny wigeon]

nahhhh

ngl i feel like they have songs that are classics and will never leave the setlist:

guns for hands
stressed out
heathens
ride
my blood
jumpsuit
heavydirtysoul

cant think of any othersrn

[stone flame]

trees

[tawny wigeon]

omg ofc

[stone flame]

hoty

[tawny wigeon]

TRUE IDK HOW I FORGOT THOSE

[stone flame]

i feel like car radio might count too but there were smaller shows where they didn’t do that one

[tawny wigeon]

car radio as well yep ur right

classics on a top setlist imo

[atomic blaze]

Trees

They’ve gotta to start chopping the mainstays I fear

[tawny wigeon]

they have to keep some of the popular ones for casuals

[stone flame]

i think hoty and trees is such a staple that they’re inherently ingrained into the show and so we don’t really think of them as songs on a setlist but rather something as essential as stage lights and pyro

[tawny wigeon]

stressed out, ride, heathens etc will always be on there i think

my blood as well

[rapid nest]

they change stressed out every tour

[atomic blaze]

I would weep if hoty left but I can see them cutting guns for hands and jumpsuit maybe

[tawny wigeon]

yh but the song itself will always be there

[rapid nest]

like the style of stressed out

[rapid nest]

mhm I get wha u mean

[tawny wigeon]

cutting GFH and jumpsuit is literally themost heinous crime they could commit

[rapid nest]

that outro for stressed out is just

[atomic blaze]

Idk was shocked to see lane boy get the axe

Wouldn’t put it past them

[rapid nest]

stay low

[tawny wigeon]

GFH is such a staple mann its so good live

[rapid nest]

i mean they had aloooot of songs in the clancy tour setlist

[tawny wigeon]

clancy tour was their most thoughtful setlist IMO

transitions, production, movement between songs

[atomic blaze]

3 hr eras tour from now on, Joseph

[rapid nest]

and like their 2nd biggest tour

1st was bandito

amount of shows i meant

[tawny wigeon]

bandito is probably the most insane tour in terms of the stage, effects, everything (clancy is super close)

[rapid nest]

clancy tour as a whole was a teaser for breach

[tawny wigeon]

yea

[rapid nest]

https://tenor.com/view/twenty-one-pilots-clancy-clancy-world-tour-top-torchbearer-gif-12930428096803216209

he didint take the jacket

man May 14 was a insane day

[tawny wigeon]

ngl idk if they will ever exceed the bandito tour production level

clancy was VERY close and is a much more aesthetically pleasing show

they clearly had a very high budget post-BF era

[cobalt fiber]

Honestly I’d say jumpsuit, HDS, and my blood aren’t sure locks here- at least one of those getting cut wouldn’t be surprising to me

[rapid nest]

i liked the bouncy dema

[tawny wigeon]

sameee

[tawny wigeon]

HDS live is the best thing ever so i hope not

[cobalt fiber]

And more personally I wouldn’t mind if they cut stressed out, ride, and heathens. Ik they’re the hits but we need space Tyler

[rapid nest]

The contract/Heavydirtysoul

[gritty yoke]

i would be fine with heathens cut

the others im less keen on cutting

[rapid nest]

the intro is so cool tho

Watch it!

[tawny wigeon]

Bandito B stage is the best they've ever done

[rapid nest]

are we emotionally ready for the closing track in breach

[remote tusk]

Keep the Clancy show Stressed Out and use it as the fireworks song for these outside shows

[cobalt fiber]

Yeah shap has talked about how they essentially had a blank check to do whatever they wanted for bandito tour because of the BF success, they were able to go crazy with any ideas they had because fbr wasn’t saying no to anything

[tawny wigeon]

yeppp i cant even imagine the cost of the bandito tour

it seems like every penny they earn from ticket sales goes back into production quality which i always appreciate

[rapid nest]

FBR is kind of problematic tbh

as a label

[tawny wigeon]

ye

[atomic blaze]

They will never top bandito as a song, live or recorded I will die on that hill

[tawny wigeon]

bandito is a fucking masterpiece of a track

[remote tusk]

Never seeing that yellow jacket again

[rapid nest]

i dont even know if fbr gets any money from anything execpt from twenty one pilots

like https://store.twentyonepilots.com might be the FBR income

[cobalt fiber]

Fbr has definitely been awful with a lot of artists but at the same time Tyler and Josh have never had anything but mountains of praise for them as a label, I’d assume whatever their original contract was that hyper-focused on their creative freedom ended up saving them from fbr’s typical fuckery (which is why they chose fbr, they were willing to give into demands for freedom most other labels wouldn’t)

[rapid nest]

original what

say that again

[cobalt fiber]

😭

[rapid nest]

https://tenor.com/view/twentyonepilots-twenty-one-pilots-thecontract-the-contract-breach-gif-8110227570266243207

[rapid nest]

isnt the only reason they are on fbr tour or smth

[cobalt fiber]

Even the one or two times we’ve heard of fbr actually giving them pushback with neon gravestones and next semester they ended up caving after Tyler stood his ground, it’s honestly shocking how little influence fbr seems to have

[tawny wigeon]

fr

[rapid nest]

next semester?

[cobalt fiber]

Not sure what you specifically mean here but generally for most bands the reason they’re on a label is album and music video funding, tour funding, and the facilitation of marketing and brand deals- so kinda?

[gentle rose]

Yeah the label wanted them to change the format of the song

[rapid nest]

why

[atomic blaze]

To give FBR credit, a man went up to them and asked them if it was chill to create his own religion. I want to be a fly on the wall in that boardroom so fucking bad

[gentle rose]

They didn’t think the way it moved around made a lot of sense

[rapid nest]

?

[cobalt fiber]

Walking into the Warner bros board meeting, opening up a briefcase, and saying “so guys I’m starting a suicide cult”

[celest gyro]

they didn't play Guns For Hands at all during Trench era and didnt play My Blood during takeover tour in 2021 so those 2 songs do have a chance of leaving again sadly

[rapid nest]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2025/06/28/twenty-one-pilots-return-with-the-bands-decade-old-album/ what the fuck is this article

fuck forbes

[cobalt fiber]

Before Clancy tour I also would have thought chlorine would be a lock-in for trench representation but they surprised me there

[celest gyro]

honestly yea. i was so confused when they got to Trees and still no Chlorine

[tawny wigeon]

true, i just love GFH live so much, its such a great vibe

[celest gyro]

Chlorine is literally the most streamed Trench song 😭

[celest gyro]

yea its one of my favs too

[atomic blaze]

Losing chlorine for trench and the outside for SAI is the biggest loss of my life

[gentle rose]

Fr me too

[celest gyro]

we're def losing Mulberry too now this tour

[tawny wigeon]

when the first chords of GFH kicked in, the arena literally came alive again it was sooo special

[gentle rose]

Yeah not enough people for the light thing

[atomic blaze]

I wonder what their b-stage config will be since it’s 1 stage now

[tawny wigeon]

more space for a proper old song medley hehe

[rapid nest]

blasphemy live in breach tour

just kidding

it wont happen

[celest gyro]

well its not that cause some of these venues do hold more than arenas, but they're gonna need room for Breach songs either way

[cobalt fiber]

I think the average arena size spread over the full tour is actually larger than Clancy tour which is interesting, a couple of them are smaller but most are larger

[celest gyro]

also since its still "The Clancy Tour" theres a chance we get At The Risk Of Dumb and Snap Back live 😉

[rapid nest]

i think theres gonna be a world tour btw

[celest gyro]

yea

[rapid nest]

after this

[tawny wigeon]

i want this to happen but also dont, cause if they dont come back to europe im gonna have insane FOMO

[rapid nest]

like 2026-2027

then hiatus until 2046

just kidding

[celest gyro]

im thinking that too. like US dates next summer, Europe dates in Fall 2026, and everywhere else in 2027

[atomic blaze]

Festivals 2027 🙏

[celest gyro]

and its like rebranded as a whole new tour

[celest gyro]

i can see them doing that

[rapid nest]

i dont want the breach tour because thats a weird name for a tour

[tawny wigeon]

i am literally manifesting that this happens

[rapid nest]

like as a name

[atomic blaze]

If they do regular venues next year in the US I will fight them for dragging me to an amphitheater

[cobalt fiber]

Wish granted, the tour is named “The The Contract World Tour”

[rapid nest]

TheThe

[celest gyro]

i think if they were to do a full world tour to end the story, it would be a name to represent the whole story

[rapid nest]

Dema tour

[celest gyro]

not a specific album

[celest gyro]

yea something like that

[tawny wigeon]

dema world tour goes hard

[celest gyro]

i remember Inferno being a whole thing last year. maybe The Inferno World Tour?

[tawny wigeon]

omg yesss

[celest gyro]

that would go so hard

[rapid nest]

i wonder why people didnt belive in the double album theory (well no longer a theory)

what do you call a theory when its confirmed lol

[celest gyro]

a fact? lol

[gentle rose]

I wonder why people thought TOP would do an EP to end the lore

Of all the ridiculous theories

[finite totem]

A prophecy, maybe

[rapid nest]

or just one single

[celest gyro]

they were considering a deluxe to clancy but tyler didnt like that word lol (confirmed by him in the zane lowe interview)

[rapid nest]

deluxe is

eehhh as a concept anyways

[gentle rose]

What I kept saying, it’d be underwhelming, now with a full album we definitely won’t be

[rapid nest]

its just money

deluxe albums i meant

[atomic blaze]

Shout out to Tyler’s barista big ups for getting us that 2nd album

[celest gyro]

oh yeah definitely i was a bit disappointed in Linkin Park's deluxe for their new album. it was only 3 extra songs and 2 of them were released as singles so the day the full deluxe came out it was only 1 new song 😭

[rapid nest]

i dont see twenty one pilots as music its more then music for me

[gentle rose]

Fr

[rapid nest]

like its more then just songs

[celest gyro]

oh yeah definitely. i feel connected and heard through their music 🙂

[rapid nest]

and the lore yk

what other band has this deep lore

[smoky tangle]

what happened today if i may ask?

[celest gyro]

thats just the cherry on top (but id still love this band even if there was no lore)

[gentle rose]

Exactly, they have this awesome lore to go with their music. Can any other band immerse you in a story like TOP

[gentle rose]

The lore is “just a cherry on top” that might be a hot take

[celest gyro]

i mean i love the lore and got invested in it. but its not what got me into twenty one pilots

[loud sluice]

i wonder how many percent fans that know about the lore

[gentle rose]

Hopefully more than 60

[rapid nest]

not twitter cluqie that much

the lore people are mostly discord cluqie

[gentle rose]

Really? This probably makes me the most glad to be in the server, lore all day long baby

[rapid nest]

twitter cluqie is just about tyler and josh in general lol

[celest gyro]

realistically. a lot of ppl joined the fandom during Vessel and BF era where the lore wasnt clear so no one knew there was big lore at the time. those ppl (including me) would still love tøp even without the lore. the lore (thats metaphorical for mental health) just adds a little flavor to this band 🙂

[cobalt fiber]

Idk if thinking they would do an ep is really all that ridiculous, we know from Tyler himself that they did originally intend to just add on a couple songs to Clancy, and to most people a deluxe album seems even less likely for them than an ep

Maybe if Tyler came out and said they always planned to do an album I’d agree but from what we now know they originally planned, an ep wouldn’t be weird or unexpected at all

[rapid nest]

tbh we got the best possible scenario

[cobalt fiber]

Agreed

[gentle rose]

Definitely

[rapid nest]

and it might be 14 tracks too if you are #TeamUOtracklist

so we are gonna eat good

[gentle rose]

Very good

[gentle rose]

And if the next single does end up being Flowers could that be further proof?

[rapid nest]

HELL

YEAH

https://tenor.com/view/bill-wurtz-hell-yeah-gif-8702179

[gentle rose]

And even if it’s not flowers, that mojib guy saying it’s fucking awesome, did he say the same thing for the contract

[rapid nest]

he didimt say anything for the contract

[gentle rose]

Interesting

[rapid nest]

but i got hyped because of him saying its fucking awesome

[gentle rose]

The contract is my number 11 if the next single is better we’ll really eat good on Breach

[rapid nest]

all of their songs are 100 to me

like

[gentle rose]

I meant a ranking, number 11 as in 10 songs above it

[rapid nest]

ahh yeak i just cant rank their songs lol

the lowest rated twenty one pilots thing i have is

[stiff fable]

[pure shard]

why is this in theories

[rapid nest]

why the fuck do mods just come randomly lop

[stiff fable]

bc it’s our job? 😭

[blazing breach]

was surfing youtube and caught a jumpscare

[random pivot]

if they EVER were to cut jumpsuit from their setlist i think it’s fair that they get jumped on the street this is something that’s cannot ever happen

man you really don’t get jumpsuit live till you LIVE jumpsuit live

it’s also like one of the most hype moments in the show they physically cannot cut that song

[gentle rose]

So real

[stiff fable]

can you guys move to #pilots-discussion if this isn’t about an alleged leak

[random pivot]

and guns for hands i wasn’t even the biggest fan of that song i liked it but like it existed but after seeing it live i love that song so much much more that moment was so special it felt like damn i really am alive it made me think of when i was a kid and started listening

[random pivot]

sorry

[stiff fable]

thank youuuu

[stone flame]

(i will try to summarize) mojib said he wasn’t allowed to talk about leaks anymore point blank, due to how much of it all is connected to the PR of the album. he wasn’t aware of how intricately woven it was when he first started teasing, but he’s now aware of the marketing surrounding the upcoming singles and the album itself. he also said he listened to the second single and it was “fucking awesome”

so the tracklist will for sure not be leaked and will be given to us (officially) by the band

[tawny wigeon]

i literally just saw this too

[blazing breach]

is this a sign

[random pivot]

single announcement this week

[blazing breach]

like next semester?

[tawny wigeon]

i think so too

[atomic blaze]

Look i respect the artistry but if numbers guy wants to resurrect from the dead and start a 2nd single tradition i wouldn’t be mad

[blazing breach]

what the numbers guy?

[atomic blaze]

Dude who leaked next semester

[blazing breach]

aah

[atomic blaze]

And caused mark to implode

[blazing breach]

pretty sure it was tyler

[stone flame]

numbers guy also leaked tour dates, including unannounced second + third shows for some of the nights

[blazing breach]

it was tyler.

[random pivot]

i’m saying this cause i think you are joking but it makes me go insane that some people actually believe this

[blazing breach]

well, strictly speaking, tyler has leaked different content more than once

[random pivot]

"more than once" blurryface. it was just blurryface

and the blurryface singles and whatever

[glacial crane]

ok what happened there's been

alot of messages since i last vhecked 😭

[wary dome]

I need more music! 😦 one thing keeping me sane is that my Blurryface anniversary things probably comes in 3-5 days

[glacial crane]

i still feel like the numbers guy thing is nuts cuz i was the first person he replied to on his account so if it was tyler..

[sharp hare]

Maybe a weird question, but is Mojib really a TOP fan at all? Has he ever said what his taste in music is like? Just curious if we could theorize about the sound of the next single based off the fact that Mojib specifically really liked it.

Like for example, if we know he loves metal music, then maybe that's kinda what the second single will be like? That sort of thing

[eternal belfry]

who is mojib? whats the context?

[granite monolith]

Mojib is the HasItLeaked guy

[granite monolith]

Iirc he isn't really a fan at all, he likes the music but he's nowhere close to a clikkie

[main knoll]

Yeah to build off that ^ he recently said he didn’t know the new album was “such a big deal.” I don’t think he knows the lore context either, he just has access to the band’s release info

[cobalt fiber]

Yeah he’s said he’s not at all familiar with the lore

He’s essentially a complete outsider when it comes to tøp, he seems to only be passingly familiar with them in general

[celest gyro]

yea hes probably just there to share leaks about major artists in general

[sharp hare]

That's kinda what I figured, I just was wondering if anyone knows what type of music he personally listens to. Maybe not, just kinda curious

[stiff fable]

a random non-fan saying a song is “fucking awesome” is such a good sign bro

and he never said anything about the contract, I think he was indifferent

[safe jacinth]

Short and sweet, anything new?

[finite totem]

Hi, any flowers?

[gentle rose]

Yeah lowk getting me hyped

[shell shard]

did he say something like that

[cobalt fiber]

He said exactly that

“The second single is fucking awesome”

[shell shard]

yuhhh

[shell shard]

hypeee

[balmy smelt]

I wonder what the label would do if somebody non affiliated to Warner sends in info about leaks

Like would they dm the specific person asking who they got it from because there’s not much they can do besides that

[cobalt fiber]

Depends on how public the info is, mojib previously said if he revealed anything specific it would be obvious it was coming from him, so presumably at least some of the info out there is only public to a small circle of people. If that was the case and info got out from a closed circle of people then FBR would probably initiate legal action and try to sue the leaker, this is what they did when heathens leaked despite only being shown to a small group of close associates to the band and label. If it was something known more widely they likely would simply do nothing other than potential copyright takedowns if the music is published, theres no way for them to track down a specific leaker once info gets out to a wider audience like radio stations. Theyve never done anything specific for that kind of general leak in the past

[night oar]

If he has heard the second single does that mean that it may be out there to be found?

[cobalt fiber]

From how he’s described it they were shared by the label as untitled tracks still being mastered as a test screening for label/industry/radio insiders as well as sample snippets being sent to advertisers to shop them around for movie trailers. It’s possible they’re out there somewhere if one of those people shared it but probably not super likely yet as it would still be pretty obvious where the leak was coming from and jeopardize that persons position

Most of those people in that select group are also likely under NDAs so as well as just generally risking being blacklisted from the industry or cut off from their connections they’d also be risking potential legal action at this point

[lilac sandal]

the way he spoke about it it sounded like it was a listening event more than anyone actually getting the files, though it's a bit hard to tell

[celest gyro]

Tyler's not playing around with Breach getting leaked lmaoooooo

yall think we gonna get another long song like Paladin?

or maybe even like Bandito

[lilac sandal]

if the UO tracklist is real, probably not

I hope so though

[thin copper]

for once i kinda hope it doesn't leak

yes i'm the one who says that

[celest gyro]

i like the feeling of waiting until midnight for the album to drop but leaks can kinda make that difficult...

[lilac sandal]

I'm probably going to a listening party anyway

[celest gyro]

oh wait shit thats def happening

i might go to 1 too then since those are official

[thin copper]

at least this is planned + they probably will cut some parts of the album or at least the end (similar to Clancy)

[lilac sandal]

That experience was so damn cool, hearing the album played in the presence of a whole room of TOP fans all reacting to the music for the first time

Maybe, I'm not sure, I know they cut the end of Paladin for it but I think that might've been a bit different because the ending was a cliffhanger and they didn't want to spoil that fact before release

If the lore ends on release for Breach I think they could reasonably share the ending there

and ofc the musical ending won't be quite the same as the video one

[celest gyro]

if this tracklist that everyone's been talking about is true, what songs yall think are getting lore videos

[random pivot]

flowers, seldom surface, blindfold(?, do you feel at home

[tawny wigeon]

maybe crossfire

[lilac sandal]

Seldom Surface, No Kin, Is This Really You/Do You Feel At Home

[tawny wigeon]

i hope this track list is real cause i think it’s good

[random pivot]

single 2 flowers announcement week

[vast hamlet]

me trying to get the blue tiktok search comment

[tawny wigeon]

☠️

i stg they better post smth about the next single this week or im gonna crash out

if nothing happens this week i’m for sure going crazy and i think the entire clique will as well

[sharp hare]

I liked the experience, but also there were some big downsides for me. I had hoped to make some new friends, but honestly everyone there was way too young to really talk to. Plus I don't really look like the average TOP fan ig, soooo it was sorta weird, idk. Plus the record store had terrible speakers and they seemed pissed at how many people showed up. They were nottt prepared

😅

[lilac sandal]

Big oof

I'm older than the average TOP fan but there were quite a few people my age or older, so I didn't feel too awkward even tho I look pretty different

Still didn't really talk to people though lol

[glacial crane]

are we expecting them to announce the single today

[granite monolith]

Not today but we're expecting something this week

Prob Thursday/friday

My guess would be Thursday tho to avoid 4th of july

[glacial crane]

i def don't think they'd announce anything on the 4th yea

[lilac sandal]

I'd love something today with a longer leadup. Wouldn't say I expect it but I'm not ruling it out

I think a post today is very possible

[granite monolith]

Tomorrow imo makes sense too

[glacial crane]

I'm a july 9th truther so i feel like announcing it today or wednesday would make sense, since the contract's teasers started 9 days before

[granite monolith]

First day of new month and all

[atomic blaze]

I hope they drip-feed us clues like last time

[glacial crane]

i could see this too, hoping they atleast do something today tho I'm very bored 😭

[granite monolith]

I just wonder what it'll be because like... They're being so secretive

[glacial crane]

literally more live footage with "JULY 9TH" in morse code or some shit would suffice

[granite monolith]

To the point where it's weird how quiet they've been

Tho ig we haven't seen anything new yet so they're probably just teasing us

[glacial crane]

usually thats what happens before they do a new single, like with overcompensate they were advertising it a shitload then went radio silent the week before next semester

I'm starting to think the no tracklist decision was on account of us figuring out the new singles via their lengths showing up early on streaming platforms lol, like they really don't want us to know what's next

[granite monolith]

Yeah, I wanna know why tho

Like if it's leaks sure but it can't spoil much

[glacial crane]

element of surprise i guess, which is fun in theory but i miss the excitement of like "SHART'S LENGTH SHOWED UP ON AMAZON!!! IT'S COMING SOON"

[celest gyro]

i just miss when tøp dropped songs with no warning lol

[granite monolith]

I'm still half hoping for last song as a single and keep us guessing abt the music video

[glacial crane]

cuz tbh itd usually hype us up and give a heads up on when to expect new stuff soon, has to be next week but i want confirmation

[glacial crane]

i do and dont miss it cuz i feel like no hype was really built, but it was fun to see info leak about upcoming singles in new and weird ways

[celest gyro]

yea ig

[glacial crane]

interesting bit i've noticed is that they'll usually post "behind the scenes" stuff of a single & then go radio silent a week before the next one releases/begins marketing

we did get that for the contract last week... sssooo...

backslide began marketing during the week of its release so looking back this has applied to basically every single

[random pivot]

my guess is on wednesday cause they seem to like wednesdays for announcements

they wouldn’t announce something on a friday

people been saying they won’t promote second single as much as they did first single based on other rollouts but i feel like for storytelling reasons it would make sense to have blurryface pulling weird stunts

[glacial crane]

basing on next semester's teaser schedule it could be 7 days before the song, and they've done releases on basically every weekday so there's no telling when it's out for sure. Mojib already basically told us they will announce it this week at the very least

[random pivot]

unless second single mv is where we finally progress the story and we see clancy escape the tower or whatever so it would make sense if he didn’t have control of this rollout now ig

[glacial crane]

I'm just a july 9th truther because of the significance of 9 and that it conveniently falls into the release schedule they use for singles as of late

[random pivot]

idk i think it’s coming july 10th

[glacial crane]

i actually kinda do and don't hope that it's lore, i wanna see how the non lore songs will sound but i also really want an announcement soon

also depends if they do another 9 day rollout, which makes sense with the significance of 9 even if it isn't a lore song

if it is a 9 day rollout we should see something in the next 2 days but if not we're in for atleast a few more days i think

[random pivot]

well 9 is pretty significant but like tbf the niners not even nine anymore keons died onscreen and for what we know so far clancy basically killed the other 7 except nico cause we haven’t seen anything from them anymore

[glacial crane]

the thing of this is that they're very unpredictable. Levitate had no warning, Choker had 2 days notice, Next Semester had atleast a week

[glacial crane]

While this is true they did a 9 day countdown for the contract so i think the number is still pretty significant, plus i think he just knocked them out lol

and 10 because of the 10 bishop theory so your july 10th idea could work out as well

I'm just trying to gaslight myself into getting it sooner tbh

did we ever figure out what those eyes blinking in the teasers were about? like was that some kind of hint

i know it alluded to the red eyes in the mv but i feel like there's more layers to it

[random pivot]

if we still don’t know it’s probably something that will make more sense later but yeah it probably was just a reference to the eyes in the video

[lilac sandal]

it's because the next single is a new version of The Line, trust

[random pivot]

the contract is like top 10 twenty one pilots songs for me rn if someone who ain’t a fan of the band said the second single is fucking awesome idk how ima survive this

[atomic blaze]

tweet in 30 minutes trust

[celest gyro]

bro nothing is gonna happen today 😭

[glacial crane]

contract post wasnt til like 5pm but yea no i doubt it

[celest gyro]

yea but it wasnt on a monday. they usually release and announce releases on either a wednesday or thursday

tuesdays and fridays are also a possibility. but Wednesday and Thursdays are more likely

[glacial crane]

it was 9 days before the song though the day doesn't really matter in my opinion, still don't think there'll be anything but i'm just saying anything could happen

it was purposely 9 days prior to be cheeky like 9 bishops and whatever

[celest gyro]

yeah but The Contract actually got announced on a Wednesday (May 21st)

if they started a countdown timer 3 weeks in advance, that'd be insane. that would be too much promo in my opinion

thats probably why they only started counting down 9 days before the release (and cause 9 is an important number in the lore so it worked)

[glacial crane]

right but my point is that theres a chance theyd do the same for the next single, and they did the first one really late in the day so evening posts arent out of the question

[celest gyro]

it all depends really. Overcompensate dropped at 1pm, Next Semester dropped at 10am so they can really do whatever

but the next single will definitely be on a wednesday or Thursday

[gentle rose]

Just making sure, this is bullshit right