Leak Theories - SPOILERS (DO NOT SEND LEAK)

[cobalt fiber]

Tyler did mention in their first Clancy interview that the reason they hadn’t done any promo or interviews was because they’d just been working on music videos and had no time for anything else, which is probably also why the interviews did pick up quite a bit towards the end of the rollout as they finished work on filming- I’m sure part of their more distanced approach to Clancy was due to the secrecy element but it does seem like a significant part of it was also the workload the videos brought on

[olive hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-dirty-soul-21pilots-gif-7746812

I also believe in this date

i reckon it's gonna be right after july 9th

and before july 12th

[gentle rose]

https://tenor.com/view/twenty-one-pilots-clancy-next-semester-gif-1866574578865065427

[coral grove]

The reactions 😭 😭

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 2!

[gentle rose]

🤸‍♂️
💨

                 🚙💨

[languid echo]

So like are we cooked or are we gonna have a cassette release for breach and box sets

[feral monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/twenty-one-pilots-clancy-breach-the-contract-gif-6259101721699779008

Ngl those vinyls look better than any vinyls I’ve seen them put out

[edgy wolf]

Did the Clancy singles release 3 weeks apart from one another? or 4?

[feral monolith]

They all look so pretty

[languid echo]

Yeah man. I really wish the FPE one wasn’t plain yellow 😭

My triplet EP? Yellow
My Trench? Yellow
My Clancy? Red and Yellow
My Breach? Yellow

I hate yellow man give a homie a break 😭

[feral monolith]

I love the graphite one

Definitely my favorite

[languid echo]

Graphite is so beautiful

If the FPE one wasn’t a thing I’d have gotten red and black inkspill probably

Btw how do I change roles 💀 the roles channel only has favorite album and im not a pan-dito 😭

[feral monolith]

I think it’s just a thing they did for pride month cause I have it too and I’m married

[languid echo]

“For pride month, we have decided your sexuality” is crazy lol.

[cyan path]

This is real 😭 I wasn't planning on getting another one but plain yellow is rough

[languid echo]

But I am beyond grateful we get extra stuff with the FPE

[coral grove]

What if they make a zoetrope vinyl with this moving image 😂

[cobalt fiber]

4

Which is the standard space between singles for them

Not exactly, sometimes it’s 3 weeks 6 days or 4 weeks 1 day or other stuff like that, but around the 4 week range

[edgy wolf]

Yeah, like the stretch between OC to NS was wayyy longer than the space between NS and Backslide.

I'm wondering if we can expect another single in early July? And it might be announced in late June?

[tawny wigeon]

yes

that’s the most likely
option unless they’re doing smth different for singles

[sharp hare]

Crazy that there's a non-zero percent chance they could release a single on my bday. Though my bets are on the day before tbh

[mystic verge]

I'm a big behind, but has the Urban Outfitters tracklist been debunked yet or is there a possibility that it is real?

[gentle rose]

There’s definitely a possibility, it still hasn’t been confirmed fake

[random pivot]

guess rn is tracklist is real but image was fake to deviate the attention from top’s team

[edgy wolf]

What day?

[heavy wasp]

this! FOR REAL

[oak dome]

no dude stop it’s fake

[edgy wolf]

We'll see soon enough. I suspect it's gonna end up being 75% accurate either way because it was based on all of the hints we have so far.

[sharp hare]

My bday is 7/11, but I think 7/10 is a Thursday

[oak dome]

no dude i made it up

[edgy wolf]

💀

[edgy wolf]

Ooo, 7/10 or 7/17 will probably be the next single then. That's really exciting. And hey, early birthday gift for you.

Dang, the next single is less than a month away...in all likelihood

Now I want to know when Next Semester was announced.

[remote tusk]

I think like exactly a week before, might’ve been hinted at before then tho

[edgy wolf]

Oh yeah, now I remember. That teaser was also confirmation that the next single would be NS. Because the fanbase had been debating it.

[languid echo]

In the recent X post when they were working on the Contract MV, Josh said they’re gonna finish the last two shows of the tour and then go home and work on more music

Surely they weren’t still writing breach a month ago. 👀

[edgy wolf]

I think they were. That's probably why we don't have the tracklist yet.

[languid echo]

I’m still of the belief breach was finished before the Clancy tour.

[coral grove]

Triple album!?! 🗣️ 🗣️

[languid echo]

I am reaching levels of delulu never before seen

[edgy wolf]

I would say in production. Not finished

[languid echo]

Oh sure I agree

[tawny wigeon]

nahh definitely not

i think they mean mastering/mixing or maybe finalising details

[delicate kraken]

I seem to remember Tyler saying that they added the end of the outside after they had sent out the order to print cd booklets, etc, which is why the lyrics don't have the "I'm on the outside in the summer heat" bit

So they definitely could still be putting the finishing touches on some songs

[tawny wigeon]

ofc

[feral monolith]

That’s the part that makes the whole song I’m glad he did

[prime sparrow]

man chats are sooooo dead we are not even fighting if the alleged tracklist is real or not..

[next jay]

All the fighting has been done already

[eternal badger]

nah its pretty much fake

[remote tusk]

Even if Drag Path (Devil’s Eyes) was in the DR, it still feels weird to put that as the full official title

[gentle rose]

There’s no need for it, now we just quietly wait for confirmation

[pseudo oyster]

the craving (jenna's version)

you can't deny it because there's an equal amount of proof that it is and that it isn't

[prime sparrow]

quietly....... w a i t ?

ARE YOU INSANE?
||I AM||

[peak tiger]

are we all still talking about that tracklist…

[gentle rose]

Tbh no

Just waiting for concrete proof for real or fake

[peak tiger]

yeah literally we just need proof

[remote tusk]

That one at least kinda makes sense cause of the single version too

Unless they’re gonna do like two versions of the song with the titles swapped around or something

[slender agate]

Man, it took literally 24 hours of consistent chatter for that to die down. Please don’t start the cycle again

[safe jacinth]

What’s up

Anything new?

[gentle rose]

Nah

[safe jacinth]

Lame

I’ll ask tyler and Josh to give us something

[midnight briar]

hey guys any updates?

op nvm got my answer

[shell shard]

is the leaked tracklist still holding up

[jolly oyster]

Oh god, don’t start it

[prime sparrow]

I think its real..

definitely real

[jolly oyster]

Lmao, I do too (maybe) but theres been so many “arguments” about it lol

[blazing breach]

it's not real until the Band confirms

[prime sparrow]

I am the band, I confirms it..

[blazing breach]

oh no

[tired thorn]

Nothing has proven it nor disproven it so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shadow mirage]

why is everything so quiet

[tired thorn]

Because there isn’t really much to talk about, until a new single is released or some other announcement there is no point in trying to argue if we think it’s true.

Just waiting for more data points

[shadow mirage]

it will probably be a bit quiet for another week or so

[tired thorn]

My hope is they’ll announce smth next week then the next single gets released like week of the 14th in July

[gentle rose]

I think it’ll definitely be July 10

[tawny wigeon]

an announcement next thursday/friday is definitely likely

or some sort of teaser

[gentle rose]

What if we start getting teasers on June 25

[tawny wigeon]

OOOO omg didnt even think of that, thats very possible

[blazing breach]

again from Blurryface?

[gentle rose]

Maybe

[blazing breach]

like your guess because it could mean a pattern between the series of teasers from Blurryface
he started teasing The Contract on May 29 Thursday
if he will start teasing the next song on June 25 Wednesday
then the next one on Tuesday
and the last one on Monday

[regal otter]

had a dream the next single was Flowers and the mv was about TB with yellow petals and stuff so therefore its true

[queen harness]

omg thank you for your dream

[tired thorn]

Where does the June 25th thing come from?

[thin copper]

Imagine the next MV is Clancy breaching into Nico's mind

For whatever reason

[tawny wigeon]

the hints of 6/25 and clancy ultimate chapter 25

[tired thorn]

What’s that from?

[thin copper]

Clancy: Digital Remains

A limited deluxe edition they sold for like a few days

[tired thorn]

Ah, wait there was a deluxe?

[copper kiln]

we probably get something new then at most not a single tho

[tawny wigeon]

yes i said they’ll start putting teasers, single probably july 11th or sometime then

[tawny wigeon]

not rlly it was kind of a deluxe but just had live versions of some of the songs and special artwork

[copper kiln]

ohh i didn't backreadd

[gentle rose]

July 11 might actually be better than July 10 cause it’ll be the seventh anniversary of jumpsuit and NATN

[tawny wigeon]

yhh

[languid echo]

Hear me out

Final MV September 19th

September 18th in Cincinnati is the only stadium this tour with a B stage (from what I’ve heard). This tells us that something lore related may happen or change at that concert. But it’s supposed to be the final album/tour of the lore. For this to be the case, we can’t have any developments during the tour if the story is done.

So, I have a theory something happens at the concert on the 18th utilizing the b stage, and the MV drops the 19th to end the story.

[tawny wigeon]

there are multiple shows with a b stage if i remember correctly, and i rlly think they’re gonna tour into 2026

[languid echo]

I prolly heard wrong then 🫡

[tawny wigeon]

i think the ending of the lore will be in 2026, like the final mv

there probably will be lore at the shows ur right tho

[languid echo]

Yeah most likely

I don’t expect it to end on album release.

[tawny wigeon]

definitely

[tawny wigeon]

same

[languid echo]

Who’s got the REALLY old video of like pre vessel era where there’s people in red that defeat Tyler and Josh shows up with a flashlight and they leave

[wintry sleet]

https://x.com/KEONSEAST/status/1803891180603609528?t=GXmstZ4ceYFgo0MeCHA4Uw&s=19

KEONS (@KEONSEAST)

REMEMBER THE 2011 VIDEO I FOUND WHERE TYLER FIGHTS SOMEONE IN A RED CLOAK 1 ON 1 THEN GETS BEATEN BY OTHERS AND JOSH COMES WITH A TORCH AND SAVES HIM

PALADIN MV SPOILERS FR

X · Jun 20, 2024, 8:42 PM

[languid echo]

KING

[wintry sleet]

Knew I'd seen it recently lol

[wary dome]

Is this variants covers confirmed?

[stiff fable]

if you go to any of those listings there doesnt happen to be a tracklist hiding anywhere does there

[wary dome]

Nope I guess we never get that tracklist

[stiff fable]

[wary dome]

There is just release date 9/19/25

[wary dome]

The tracklist is really strange, in my opinion it hasn't been specifically put together or finished yet, no e-shop has it, which means the pilots haven't sent it anywhere yet

[knotty pine]

have the picture disk lps been made public yet?

[wary dome]

This one ? Yes its on my country e-shop

They added it today

Few days back it have just no image

[knotty pine]

oh sick

I wonder what the other three will look like lol

oh wait

none of the website I see are listing there being four variants anymore

the picture lp still says "picture disk 1" but the other three aren't listed

[edgy wolf]

What's the cost in USD? Curious if printing LPs like this would cost more than a usual deco.

[sick viper]

trench tracklist wasn't "locked in" till august so ~2 months before, so you cld be right

[wary dome]

50$

[hushed heart]

WAIT MINE IS TOO WHAT

[tawny wigeon]

yh tracklist might not be fully locked but thats not something to be concerned about really

[hushed heart]

sorry that was the first thing i saw when i opened this chat lolll

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 1!

[granite monolith]

TRACKLIST IS DEAD

https://www.officialcharts.com/songs/twenty-one-pilots-see-you-later/

[wild raven]

aint no way

[vast cradle]

This says it will be able to chart as of the 22nd as well which is interesting

[granite monolith]

if they shadow drop track 2...

[tawny wigeon]

wtff

[wild raven]

cant this just be BF talking to us

[gentle rose]

I clicked the play button it played the contract wtf

[granite monolith]

also, imho, deconfirms hasitleaked guy for this era

[wild raven]

and just like... not be a name for a song

[granite monolith]

on the uk charts???

[gentle rose]

What even is this

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 47!

[tawny wigeon]

wtff

[wild raven]

like its pretty on par with how blurryface speaks... you know after he picked up a book or something..

[granite monolith]

yeah but... like come on this isnt even a band site

[gentle rose]

Ok this is scary where did this come from

[wild raven]

yeah but i like to imagine stuff that dont make sense 😦

[knotty pine]

yeah this is def not real imo lol

[vast cradle]

My best guess is someones but the wrong title in for The Contract on the charts but it could be something bigger

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 3!

[wild raven]

do we really think we're getting a track see you later on 22/6?

[tawny wigeon]

ive just been on the site.. its real but could be a glitch

[granite monolith]

I mean it is real its an official charting tracker

[random pivot]

nah this not a song title it’s in all caps this must be like when they did the one more sleep banditos thing

[tawny wigeon]

it is real its just a glitch most likely

[gentle rose]

No because I clicked the play button on the cover and it just played the contract

[tawny wigeon]

its in all caps cause thats the format for the website

[granite monolith]

I assume thats placeholder

[wild raven]

yeah i checked

[knotty pine]

well yeah the web page is real but the track is 100% not

[gentle rose]

So this title is definitely fake right

[wild raven]

there arent any songs recent or coming soon called SEE YOU LATER

acording to my quick google search

[random pivot]

it’s not a song title

[tawny wigeon]

probably a glitch or mistake

[wild raven]

so.. dunno guys if it is a glitch or mistake i have no idea how it happened

[granite monolith]

I think you guys are rushing to fake way too fast

[tawny wigeon]

a mistake most likely but... we'llsee?

[random pivot]

that wasn’t the important part of the message 😭

[gentle rose]

I click the play button, it played the contract

[granite monolith]

I think its a mistake, but I dont think it isnt true

[wild raven]

i hope its just a glitch because i like the leaked tracklist 😦

[granite monolith]

yes, because its a placeholder

[tawny wigeon]

same

[gentle rose]

Yeah me too

[tawny wigeon]

very weird

[granite monolith]

the track cant chart before the 22nd so obviously theyre not gonna drop the song on the site until then. they made the page so they wouldnt be rushing to on release day

[wild raven]

if it is intentional, the only logical thing is it being BlurryFace leaking shit again, but why there?

[random pivot]

it’s 100% not a song title i’m 99% sure this is official but not a song title just a promotion thing

[gentle rose]

I don’t get it wdym

[tawny wigeon]

https://www.officialcharts.com/songs/twenty-one-pilots-see-you-later/

[random pivot]

like the band doing it on purpose

[tawny wigeon]

veryyy strange

[granite monolith]

the page was set up (and likely accidentally published) ahead of time for the release

[knotty pine]

I feel like they wouldn’t do that on an unaffiliated website

[random pivot]

the one more sleep banditos deal before shy away where was it

[random pivot]

they have before

[tawny wigeon]

when u search the song ID it just shows the contract, very likely its a title error

[granite monolith]

and they threw in the contract for the music because they dont have it yet

[wild raven]

checking it in their "profile" or whatever, it says the contract, but it still says 22 june

[random pivot]

huh

[granite monolith]

oh, weird

[gentle rose]

Yeah gotta be a title error

[tawny wigeon]

yeah its likely a mistake now

[random pivot]

now THAT is weird

[wild raven]

no idea why it says 22 june

[tawny wigeon]

idk maybe thats the next chart update?

[random pivot]

anyways flowers july 10

[granite monolith]

next update is in 3 days, so the 20th

[wild raven]

wait wait ive been off the grid for a couple of days, how do we know flowers july 10?

[gentle rose]

I wanna say July 10 cause it’s a Thursday, but I wanna say July 11 cause it’ll be 7 years since jumpsuit and NATN

[tawny wigeon]

hmm

[granite monolith]

hallucinations

[tawny wigeon]

we dont its just a guess, a single is definitely coming july tho

[wild raven]

studying for physics end of term exams has me lacking in my twenty one pilots theories

[wild raven]

oh ok yeah

that makes sense

[midnight briar]

hey anything new?

[random pivot]

then flowers july 10 graffiti 11

[gentle rose]

Ok that’s too much

[wild raven]

and then early album drop on the 12th

[random pivot]

i don’t make the rules

[wild raven]

do we have any leaks other than the supposed tracklist?

[tawny wigeon]

nope

[random pivot]

well it’s not even affiliated with the band

[granite monolith]

I kinda completely forgot, god I want to see james marriot absolutely butcher fairly local

[random pivot]

like at all

[wild raven]

i mean, are they associated with this tribute album at all?

[granite monolith]

yes and no

[wild raven]

other than like you know giving it the green light, if they even did

[random pivot]

not at all, 0 involvement

[tawny wigeon]

i completely forgot lol

[granite monolith]

they signed off on it, but the band arent involved

[random pivot]

it’s just a rock sound tribute

[granite monolith]

rocksound approached them, they said so themselves and they were like "Oh shit cool"

[tawny wigeon]

rocksound rlly fucked it up

[wild raven]

oh yeah then its like nothing but a fun thing to happen

[tawny wigeon]

terrible marketing

[wild raven]

yup

[granite monolith]

wonder how many will drop on streaming services

[random pivot]

ngl ion fw any of the artists on the list

[wild raven]

and the fan reaction was horrible also... just saying

[granite monolith]

ik my goats royal and serpant are gonna for sure

[wild raven]

yeah see! proving my point

[random pivot]

at least i cared enough to check

artio has one good song

the mfs covering hometown

[granite monolith]

tbf... james marriott not doing ANY of the fairly local rap and hds being butchered to high heaven sucks

[random pivot]

the others idk not really my thing ig

[sharp hare]

YOOOO

[tawny wigeon]

they just FUCKED the marketing... making everyone think it was dropping but instead they hyped up a fucking preorder...

playing bad snippets

[granite monolith]

I dont care if thats "mean" im not gonna be out here saying "yes james you go do half a song you king!"

[random pivot]

fr

god his fairly local version is specially bad

[tawny wigeon]

james messed fairly local so bad i swear it sounds awful

[wild raven]

i know some of the artists, but i cant say i like them, however i think its great smaller artists are getting this opportunity, many fans wanted like spectacular artists on it like MCR and billie eilish so they were left disappointed when it was revealed.. not sure how many people would buy this

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 6!

[random pivot]

heavydirtysoul and fairly local are by far the worse treated songs on this tribute

[tawny wigeon]

god dont get me started on HDS - sounds awful

[random pivot]

100% i’m not saying otherwise im all in for new upcoming artists

[granite monolith]

its not even that for me, I just wanted them to be good. I was hoping wed have smaller bands and maybe 1 or 2 heavy hitters, but ill settle for royal

(d4vid being left out of the trifecta sucks tho holy fuck)

[random pivot]

it’s just this specific selection after checking them out that i don’t enjoy

[granite monolith]

we did almost get idkhow tho so i cant be too mad

[wild raven]

i think its good we're talking about the songs themselves as covers. This feels constructive, not the children on tiktok crying about taylor swift not talking how she wasnt raised in the hood

[random pivot]

like it’s fine i just won’t listen and that’s it im not gonna go out and hate

[tawny wigeon]

idc what anyone says, james has not done a good fairly local "cover"

its produced badly justlike most of the tribute songs

[wild raven]

is there a full fairly local cover from him somewhere?

[tawny wigeon]

yes.. he's doing one on the bf tribute

[wild raven]

i only heard the snippet and honestly... i mean... he did say he didnt pick the song and it shows

[random pivot]

it’s terrible

[wild raven]

yeah yeah but is it released i mean?

can we hear it in full yet?

[random pivot]

not the full thing but like a good idk minute and a half

i think

[wild raven]

oh damn only heard the short snippets of all songs

where can i find them longer?

or should i just google and not ask dumb questions...

[pseudo oyster]

no it's saying it did chart in the week up to the 22nd.

[main knoll]

Have you met this fanbase /lh people make stuff up for fun all the time, of course we’re immediately gonna be suspicious lmao

[cursive river]

wdym they make stuff up? you mean to tell me “my pet cheetah won’t go” wasn’t legit? /j

[main knoll]

I think you just activated my fight or flight response

[wary dome]

That pet cheetah demo is not real??

Tyler’s voice in that is angelic

[cursive river]

what did I just watch 😭😭😭

[wintry sleet]

Is a really old vid from a show in 2011

[rapid nest]

LOLFAKE

when i click the contract on the charts it redirects to that

[granite monolith]

Then the question is why does it do that?

And again, that's not what fake means lmao, that's called a mistake

[rapid nest]

its probably a mistake made by the admins of that site

[main knoll]

The listed name is an error. Could be they got names of things mixed up when inputting them (not sure how the site works)

[rapid nest]

and lol, why would hasitleaked get deconfirmed

[main knoll]

Regardless I’d say this def isn’t proof of anything

[random pivot]

i ask again

when the one more sleep banditos thing appeared in that database the day before shy away dropped

was that also on a charts website

cause if that’s the case they are probably just teasing something but that’s not a song title

obviously no song in sai is called one more sleep banditos

[main knoll]

I don’t know what you mean unfortunately, what database?

[random pivot]

the day before shy away dropped a twenty one pilots "song" appeared on a charts database (that’s why i’m asking to see if it’s the same website) and it was a tease to shy away dropping the next day

with the name being one more sleep banditos

[main knoll]

Oh, interesting. Don’t know anything about that tbh, I was less involved in digging around during SAI after I kinda burned out on it during Trench lol. Interested to see if anyone has any insight though

[random pivot]

yes please lol

[wary dome]

It still could be placeholder that song isn’t out so its glitching

[sterile glen]

yeah like it’s obviously a mistake and shouldn’t say “see you later” but i don’t think it harms anything to have a discussion about it’s potential to be the next single. it’s almost 100% a mistake or a glitch, but who’s to say that the glitch isn’t accidentally showing the next single? got input wrong or something in the back end. simple title mistake still linking to the actual song makes sense to me

[wary dome]

Let's see how long the glitch lasts, that will tell us more.

[random pivot]

my guess is it’s not a glitch it’s a teaser to promote the next single but see you later is not the name it’s just the tease

[ruby pagoda]

i think its a placeholder too

[random pivot]

well idk cause idk why they would start doing this for a single so early

[stone flame]

wasn’t there also a song called “Clancy Is Alive - Tyler Joseph” or am i misremembering something here

[random pivot]

taking in consideration they drop in july

[random pivot]

yup exactly

that’s why i’ve been a day one tyler has always been clancy believer

[sterile glen]

could be a lyric for sure. a lot of references to eyes here lately it would make sense for something relating to “see you later”

[ruby pagoda]

yeah i dont think its a title esp not for the next single anyway

"see you later" is such a closing song thing like i cant see it being a single. placeholder of some kind maybe , for whatever reason

[stone flame]

kinda funny to think it’s a message from nico and that’s how we learn he dies off-screen

[sterile glen]

classic tyler move giving us crucial lore through a british radio chart website

[random pivot]

imagine they been keeping us stuck on the same cliffhanger for a whole year and when we get the next mv the fight already happened and blurryface is just gone

[ruby pagoda]

Rest of the album is just them having fun. Ykw good for them

[rapid nest]

lavish

[wary dome]

My final guess is that See you later is our new track but they put links and ISRC code of The contract cuz they don’t have code for See you later yet and it’s test slot

Release date is still heavy questionable

[safe jacinth]

So nothing new?

[slender agate]

It feels far more likely to be real than the tracklist because it’s at least verifiable that it exists on that website

But we all know that it’s going to be 3 unique singles and then 11 remixes of Lavish

[blazing breach]

and it fits adihgrTnSnd theory

[slender agate]

The Contract breaks that theory though, we know it’s the first track

[gentle rose]

Exactly

[blazing breach]

we don't know this yet

[slender agate]

Tyler said it in the Apple Music interview

lol

He didn’t say first single, he said first Track

The only hope Keyboard smash theory has is The Contract having been renamed from “A Contract” since keyboard smash happened

[blazing breach]

he's been saying a lot of things lately
I'll believe it when see the tracklist

[blazing breach]

fair point

[thin copper]

they literally said on a tweet "first track on Breach"

• as bucsfan said Tyler said it in an interview

• it's literally after/during the end of Paladin Strait, it's just what would make the most sense continuity-wise

it'd be like starting the album Clancy with like Navigating and have Overcompensate as the 6th track

[stone flame]

to be fair, they did switch the video order for levitate and NATN. even though jumpsuit blends seamlessly into levitate (the song), they stuck the video for NATN in the middle

although that isn’t nearly as dire as the story is right now

[thin copper]

but Jumpsuit was still the first track on the record

[thin copper]

also i hope it didn't seem like i was being rude or anything

or if i was then im sorry

[blazing breach]

no no!!
but I'm still waiting for the official tracklist

[random pivot]

nah there’s no way seldom surface is 100% a song and see you later taking its place would leave no other s on it

[shadow mirage]

i think we can count that see you later is def not a song

[random pivot]

to me it’s just twenty one pilots itself messing with us it’s a teaser or sumn not a song title

again like the one more sleep banditos thing

not saying we are getting a single as soon as this week i still think it’ll be july 10

[tawny wigeon]

yeah

[sharp crow]

no clue how credible this is lol but

[regal otter]

This is so weird to me bc it has to be intentional, u don’t just put a random name on a song by accident and NOT correct it when fans point it out online

[sharp crow]

Just saying, it does fit the keysmash theory lol

(but that would mean no Seldom Surface)

https://www.officialcharts.com/songs/twenty-one-pilots-see-you-later/ Thats so weird

[regal otter]

everything and anything can fit the keysmash theory imo, we've tried many things with it and it never rlly worked sooo

it's not something that has ever confirmed anything to be true (yet)

[regal otter]

BUT its so weird that its still up ???

[sharp crow]

For sure

[rapid nest]

@regal otter holy shit

the original starwalker

[blazing breach]

oh hi starwalker

[prime sparrow]

the contract just peaked at 25... sigh

[blazing breach]

maybe it's the main lyric from the next single?

[regal otter]

star walker

[prime sparrow]

that's weird..

[rapid nest]

these fake leaks are pissing me off

im the original starwalker

[blazing breach]

i know

[muted axle]

i think it's a mistake because officialcharts 100% doesn't have access to unreleased songs, the USAT code leads to The Contract, and 22 june is way too soon for another single

[rapid nest]

i love when the cluqie talks about nothing burgers as real stuff and the things that has possibility to be real they just try to prove its false

its literally the opposite

[muted axle]

i dont think that's fair, we all try or should try to look at everything objectively and this is just objectively a mistake lol

but it's fun it keeps the hype going

[rapid nest]

what i dont understand is how does this make hasitleaked non-crediable

the guy is literally a insider

[muted axle]

im not talking about that specifically

and mojib hasnt said it's real either

im talking about this title thing being a mistake lol thats all

[rapid nest]

ah fair enough, I wasn't talking to u either, but since this thing like happend i saw people here say hes now non credible

[muted axle]

well it's true that if the title would've been real then the tracklist would've obviously been fake but i think it's not real

[blazing breach]

wasn't the date originally June 26th?

[muted axle]

nah 22nd

[tawny wigeon]

yeah we ain’t getting a single on june 22nd lol

[blazing breach]

we'll see

[queen harness]

well

thats a sunday

[tawny wigeon]

yea so unlikely lol

i think we may start getting teasers around june 25th with an announcement at the end of june for a july 11th release date (jumpsuit anniversary)

[muted axle]

yeah

[queen harness]

hoping

[muted axle]

or maybe july 1st teases start

cause 10 days

[tawny wigeon]

maybe but if they want a big buildup similar to the contract they’d start earlier imo

[queen harness]

hmm

[tawny wigeon]

but tbh idk when the contract teasing started?

[muted axle]

may 21st

[queen harness]

hmmmmmmm

[muted axle]

but i dont think theyd do blurryface tweets again

or at least not as much as for the contract

[queen harness]

why not

[tawny wigeon]

with a june 12th release so that’s a few weeks

[tawny wigeon]

i think they will 🤷‍♂️

if it’s lore related they will for sure

[queen harness]

it better be

[tawny wigeon]

imo the singles should all be lore…

[queen harness]

the whole album should imo

[tawny wigeon]

agreed

[queen harness]

im greedy

[muted axle]

me personally i'd get pretty tired of them

[tawny wigeon]

if they want to start progressing the story the singles need to have lore

[muted axle]

the singles will be lore for sure

[tawny wigeon]

if they don’t i feel like it’s gonna start getting weird

[muted axle]

unless they do like a fourth single that's not lore but i doubt it

[queen harness]

i dont want so many sinhles

[tawny wigeon]

i feel like if this is the big story conclusion the 3 singles should all be lore videos similar to jumpsuit natn levitate

and then they might drop a final lore video after the album releases

[muted axle]

i think they'll do

[queen harness]

i feel like they will make all videos like clancy

[muted axle]

3 mvs before album release
another music video like a month afterwards

[tawny wigeon]

idkkk

[muted axle]

and another one near the end of the year or next year

[tawny wigeon]

if the album is all lore i feel like they won’t do an mv per song

if they do then that’s crazy commitment and budget

[muted axle]

yeah and i think they've set quite a bar for themselves with the contract \

[tawny wigeon]

yep

[queen harness]

i feel like they will never top the budget of trench singles

[tawny wigeon]

i’d rather have quality mvs with singles tbh for the lore

the thing that made trench videos special was they flew to great locations for trench and dema

which they haven’t been able to do it seems

[queen harness]

yea iceland is extremely expensive

[muted axle]

yeah i wish they'd use a little less cgi

[queen harness]

yea cgi is kinda ..

[tawny wigeon]

and of course they can’t get to ukraine which is understandable

i wasn’t a huge fan of the paladin CGI but i loved the contract it was much better

[muted axle]

they can come to romania i won't complain

yeah it was really well edited

[queen harness]

tru romania has nice mountains at least

they can come to hungary we have..... fields

[muted axle]

you've got some mountains

i think

[tawny wigeon]

it’s such a shame they can’t film the original dema city

[queen harness]

much smaller than romania

anyway

[gentle rose]

I didn’t really have problems with the Paladin CGI mainly cause there weren’t any noticeable mistakes to me

[tawny wigeon]

jt literally perfectly captured the vibe of dema

[muted axle]

yeahh

the new cgi dema city seems wayyy too medieval to me

[tawny wigeon]

oh yeah i think it was great and i love the video but sometimes it was a bit ehh

[muted axle]

i liked the brutalist concrete city

[muted axle]

or not medieval but idk

the towers looked medieval lmfao

[tawny wigeon]

yh it looked so well done during trench era

[random pivot]

again i dont think its a mistake i think its the band teasing us but this is not a single name just like what they did with one more sleep banditos before shy away theres clearly no song on sai called one more sleep banditos

this is just to tease us cause they are probably announcing something

i doubt it’s unintentional cause it would’ve been fixed instantly

[tawny wigeon]

maybe

[random pivot]

but i’m also confident in that it isn’t a song title

[muted axle]

was one more sleep real? they didn't really do another big sleep

[tawny wigeon]

such a perfect video

[random pivot]

yeah

it was cause shy away was dropping the next day

[queen harness]

iconic af

[muted axle]

going from the dmaorg letters to this was so cool

[random pivot]

top 3 top music videos alongside next semester and the contract

[tawny wigeon]

trench era videos were just perfect

[random pivot]

i fw my blood mv too i don’t see that one really mentioned often

[tawny wigeon]

for me their top 5 videos in no order are nico and the niners, next semester, jumpsuit, levitate, the contract, my blood

just realised i put 6

[muted axle]

its alright i just didn't like them using other actors

[tawny wigeon]

my blood for me was great because we know now that it had an even deeper meaning in the lore

[random pivot]

i think that makes it very special

[tawny wigeon]

such a great plot reveal and then the link back to my blood, it was there from the beginning

[queen harness]

is this not edited? i tried looking at the chart but didnt find it

[tawny wigeon]

i just love when they film at practical locations

[random pivot]

at first when my blood mv dropped i thought that was just because it was a lil step aside from the lore before the next single having another lore mv but that clearly didn’t happen

[muted axle]

https://www.officialcharts.com/songs/twenty-one-pilots-the-contract/

[tawny wigeon]

it’s real yeah i looked on the site the other day

[muted axle]

it says see you later when you click on it

[tawny wigeon]

veryyy strange

and it’s still not been fixed..

[queen harness]

yea i just found it aksbsjjs thanks

idk it has to be a mistake why would bbc tease and nothing nowehre else doesnt

[random pivot]

my guess is (very delusional) this is because they are gonna announce the europe tour this week 😁

[tawny wigeon]

omggg i hope

i need a europe tour announcement ASAP with the next single preferably 🙏

[queen harness]

i dont have money for another concert so soon pls

[muted axle]

its a mistake 100% like
the buy link takes you to the contract, the usat code is for the contract... the link says the contract lmao

if see you later is real i'll eat a pickle

[random pivot]

me neither but i’ll rob a bank if i need to

[tawny wigeon]

omg wait i have a theory: so they announced this small tour leg early because it’s only a few months away, they announced the clancy world tour with the second single closer to summer because it was mainly next year so what jf they’re waiting a few months to then put the tickets for the rest of the world tour on sale

[muted axle]

me 2 istg

they came to romania said "see you next time" and then never came again

[tawny wigeon]

this makes no sense but anyway

i hope it comes true

[muted axle]

perhaps

they could for sure do a summer festival run

at least

[tawny wigeon]

man i hate festivals i just want another arena tour in the uk 😔

i mourn the clancy tour every single day and will mourn it until the next show

[muted axle]

with the amount of amphiteater shows, they could do a LOT of medium sized arenas in europe

thye're perfect

[tawny wigeon]

oh god i kinda hope they don’t do amphitheatres

gonna sell out so fast

[muted axle]

yeah

[tawny wigeon]

i actually don’t know of any amphitheatres in my country

or at least near me

[muted axle]

i hate myself so much because i went to italy to visit some relatives A DAY BEFORE THEY PLAYED IN BOLOGNA

and i didn't buy tickets

[muted axle]

there aren't that many anywhere

[tawny wigeon]

rip

yh

[shadow mirage]

imagine they did arena de nimes

would be fireeee

[tawny wigeon]

😭 bruh that would be hilarious

[random pivot]

same

[tawny wigeon]

where was it when they performed at some amazing location with a bunch of rocks during blurryface era

[muted axle]

atp just play in the colosseum

[tawny wigeon]

it was like so beautiful

[queen harness]

i feel like it will break under all the clikkies

[shadow mirage]

nah this venue is so fricking good

[tawny wigeon]

jumpsuit would go crazy in that venue it looks like they’re performing in some dema venue

[muted axle]

yeah

[tawny wigeon]

if they don’t do anymore shows after this small leg i feel like it would be a bit weird as that’s the final tour of the story but idk we’ll see ig

[rapid nest]

not the final story tour, final of this story specifically tour

[random pivot]

idk if you noticed you said the same thing twice

[thin copper]

i'm still confused about their "one last trip" thing

they said that on the announcement of the Clancy Tour: Breach

[random pivot]

to me one last trip doesn’t mean they can’t still add dates tho

[thin copper]

oh yeah but that's still a confusing phrasing then lol

saying one last trip and then only announcing a small US only tour

[tawny wigeon]

yeah that’s what i said “final tour of the story”

[tawny wigeon]

they didn’t say that they said “one more trip” 🤷‍♂️

[slender agate]

Crazy thought here that would make me sad… what if they do this tour and then take a two or three year break. They said the original hiatus was a test to see if they’d still have fans after taking a break. Though maybe the quarantine could’ve changed their minds on doing one who knows

[main knoll]

I think after all this they’d deserve a nice long break. It wouldn’t be the intense kind like after Blurryface — Tyler said he regrets how they went about that. But I think some time off would be well-deserved

[slender agate]

I think it is well deserved as well, just it will feel weird having them not be active for a long time

[main knoll]

Also I think they’d do another world tour first

[stone flame]

i have seen some people say that this will be it for the breach tour, since they intended this to be part of clancy (and the tour is, so far, advertised as such) but there was also that crew member who said they had plans for 2026 and beyond so

[main knoll]

It’s hard to know but honestly I’d be shocked if they didn’t do another leg outside the U.S. They are releasing a whole new album after all. Maybe a sizable break in between to rest up?

[slender agate]

I mean unless they are having Breach truly break their album cycle they likely won’t tour Breach past like summer of next year. Because normally we have a 3 year cycle of release then tour then break then release

But this time they didn’t do two years of tour and one year of quiet

[main knoll]

Well normally we have more than a little over a year between albums HAHAHA

[slender agate]

So who knows

[slender agate]

But we don’t know if this breach is being treated how they normally treat albums. I mean technically this is still the Clancy tour just a Breach leg

[stone flame]

i was fully expecting they would tour again next spring/summer and didn’t anticipate them doing This during the fall, so maybe whatever they have planned for next year will be summer/fall

i just want them to rest up and be okay

[main knoll]

I want Tyler to show me his doctor’s note saying he can jump before he does anything on Breach tour /hj

[slender agate]

I’ve had no expectations, I just go with whatever they do and hope they have a show decently close to me in Florida when they do announce tours

Luckily I am going to a Breach show

[normal fulcrum]

My opinion on this topic they definitely have plans beyond these North America shows:

1. They still have to play cbus obvi
2. Multiple sources have mentioned shows going into 2026
3. This is one of their biggest single debuted to date and they’ve gained so many fans since Clancy was announced it would genuinely be a stupid move to have such a short tour for the last album of the lore (think about what they said in the Zane Lowe interview)
4. “One more trip across North America” that is so cryptic in itself and to me is even more evidence to the world tour idea

I’m hoping this plays out with international dates starting next year and ending in cbus which would me myself and friends would be actually able to make the 24hr trip the world across for our first cbus show

[main knoll]

(I regret to inform you Cincinnati, the first stop of the tour, is in Ohio. Do you mean Columbus)

[normal fulcrum]

IM STUPID LOL I KEEP SAYING OHIO INSTEAD OF CBUS

[upbeat willow]

Yup and Cinci is only an hour away from Columbus

[normal fulcrum]

Too many states in ur damn country

[slender agate]

We are 50 states and 4 of them technically don’t even call themselves states

Because stupid

[normal fulcrum]

This whole tour is giving ERS vibes and I’m sensing another tour de columbus

[slender agate]

If this is ERS though then we don’t get too much more in the terms of shows after this

Then it’s onto whatever comes after the Lore

[naive hemlock]

I feel like Breach will not be fully released on september, there will be some bonus track or some mv not released, so they will tour and give some lore during tour and then finish the album right after tour or even on the last show? and then they will go on a full tour. I feel like this is more of an expanded AEWTOP

especially cause the tour is like 2 months, it's not a long term plan

[normal fulcrum]

Yeah I’ve heard a lot of talk around a 12 track album for breach with 2 (“deluxe”) bonus tracks

[random pivot]

tbh what i think he meant was that is they’ll no longer do full long radio silence but tbf every time they’ve been like a year away from a new album they’ve gone completely radio silent so

[normal fulcrum]

Which would make the most sense in terms of prolonging this final release which seems to be the case the way things are playing out

[stone flame]

was it confirmed there was 2 extra songs?? last i heard, there was just two tracklists, with one presumedly some kind of deluxe

[main knoll]

Yeah I agree, that’s what I’m saying. It won’t be zero social media, cutting-all-contact. They’ll just take a break and tweet whenever they want, probably not frequently

[stone flame]

which is ironic because the whole reason we have breach is because they didn’t want to do a clancy deluxe

[random pivot]

well they would finally have ended the whole storyline so there wouldn’t be no need to still be acting full mysterious n shit on social media

maybe we could see them do lil livestreams here and there

idk

[main knoll]

Well I mean… they can do what they want hahaha. Neither Josh or Tyler seem to tweet much anymore themselves. Seems like they just don’t want to be on social media much anymore 🤷‍♀️

[random pivot]

to me i think what they saw is an unfinished tracklist and then the finished one but it still was a really weird way to describe it

specially taking in consideration what tyler literally had just said about deluxes

[slender agate]

Imagine they pull what they did with vessel and give the UK and Japan like 4 extra songs off of RAB

[random pivot]

now, in the streaming service era there really is no need to do a deluxe to add songs to an album they literally can just add them to the regular album

like literally just opening up the album on dsps and the album having 2 more songs out of a sudden

[slender agate]

I mean there is though because they can’t miraculously add to the CDs that were advertised and sold as full albums

[random pivot]

they literally can tho

wouldn’t be the first time it happens

[slender agate]

The physical CDs?

[random pivot]

(not with them)

[random pivot]

no i’m not saying that

i’m saying the physical version can just not have those songs and that’s it

or on other hand only the physical versions of the album having those songs and then the songs being added to the tracklist later on dsps

[slender agate]

Because if you add more songs without it being a new version of the album that’s also technically massive False Advertising law suits, especially when the band always advertise their albums as “full length”

It’s why deluxe editions exist

Well that, and Money money money and money

[random pivot]

well not really

you can release physical versions of an album and then the album have changes later on dsps it is completely legal

[slender agate]

You would then have sold all those physical copies on false pretenses that they were the full album

That is definitely something that could get you sued

[random pivot]

not at all

it is the full album

it’s just a different version of the album

i have the music cd, it’s got a different tracklists, different mixing, different features. i don’t see playboi carti crying on a court room

it’s completely legal

intellectual property by waterparks had one last song added to the tracklist later on the rollout, the physical copy of the album don’t have the song

[stone flame]

there’s a part of me that thinks the second tracklist could just be a joint clancy + breach release but who knows at this point

[random pivot]

true

[sharp hare]

This is my main theory tbh, I think this is very very likely

Brancy Deluxe 😈

[slender agate]

All google searches that I’ve been able to make say that you have to make it a separate product as an expanded or deluxe edition because again, the album is released as a completed product

[solid apex]

yeah i had the same thing with the first pressing of the weeknd’s album, it’s far stripped back with different mixes and only half the tracklist. i’ve been thinking the FPE is gonna have a few changes since they announced it

[random pivot]

again, thats cause it is the complete product

it just have differences

[sharp hare]

Bruh idk what to tell you lol. It happens all the time. I don't think TOP would ever do that, but artists do it all the time. My Chromakopia vinyl has different stuff on it than the streaming version, despite it being marketed as the same album. It happens.

[random pivot]

well actually im not so sure if that was the case that tracklist would be more than 20 tracks long, if that was the case he wouldnt have said more than 12 songs registered cause i think 20+ tracks would be something remarcable to mention

[stone flame]

there’s another part of me that agrees with that

but i wonder if him leaking that there’s more than 20 tracks would be “too much”

so him saying there’s more than 12 is considered “safe” since most albums have 12+ songs these days

[sharp hare]

I meannn, I don't think they'd say that if it was true tbh. If they told us 20÷ tracks, it would be giving away a lot I think. Plus it could mislead some people into theorizing about 20+ NEW tracks and make a mess

[stone flame]

there’s also records that have hidden tracks that aren’t included anywhere and are just tacked on at the end of the last song. this has been a thing for decades

[sharp hare]

Absolutely!

[slender agate]

I mean I’ve been talking about the context of them just announcing later “here are four songs because we didn’t actually release the full album” and the release not being a deluxe or other named special edition

That would make all the original copies not actually the as advertised “full length albums”

[random pivot]

that’s just cause of the wording you are using

[slender agate]

That’s the concept that started the whole conversation

Them holding like 4 songs and dropping them later

As part of Breach

[random pivot]

look i’m a horrible teacher i have 0 patience yes you can add songs to an album after release that are not on the physical version no it’s not illegal no you don’t even have to release another physical version to add the songs you just don’t have the songs in the physical version and that’s it and it would still be the full album it is not false advertisement

that’s it there’s nothing else to it

[oak dome]

what they have hidden in the vid im at the gym

[random pivot]

nothing really it’s just a happy birthday post

it ends with the navigating part where josh disappears but like ngl doubt it means anything atp

[rapid nest]

SEE YOU LATER CONFIRMED FAKE

[oak dome]

don’t send stuff fron hil to here, they’re just gonna say mojib aint credible lmao

i am baiting for interactions @stiff fable

wtf he talm bout @rapid nest

[rapid nest]

ITS REAL @oak dome

[oak dome]

don’t post in here lmao

ian tryna have this chaos again

[random pivot]

what

[gentle rose]

What’s real? Pls say the tracklist

[random pivot]

please

[stiff fable]

dawg I’m confused asf

[oak dome]

me too starting to believe that tracklist aint real dawg

[stiff fable]

I read the entire chat twice

And I still can’t tell

He refused to flat out debunk it

[oak dome]

bro is more cryptic than tyler

[stiff fable]

But just softly confirmed that Do You Feel At Home is a real track, I think??

[neat swift]

Seems like it

[oak dome]

yea

nah guys im hoisting the white flag y’all won the tracklist aint real

[thin copper]

it'd be so cool that they release a combo of them under the same record, like an actual double album

[stiff fable]

I’m still holding out hope

Like genuine faith that it’s real

[oak dome]

idk man mojib is confusing me hella

[stiff fable]

I think he’s trying to shake us off of it for the same reasons he won’t leak it- the label was ridiculously adamant about it not leaking and being released in the right order, so he’s trying to adhere to that

[stone flame]

either way, super exciting

[regal otter]

thats such an odd response, bc it doesn't confirm the tracklist, just DYFAH, and if he was aware that it was on a shirt, then he might have said that to further confuse us

[main knoll]

I’m not sure I read it as being intentionally confusing; I think he’s just being incredibly careful with what he says and how he says it

[regal otter]

yeah probably, although i still feel like the UO trakclist isn't confirmed at all just bc of this

all the song titles that weren't on the shirts might be fake still

i believe in DYFAH now, but not in the other ones until proven wrong

starwalker

[knotty pine]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DLDD8zQRfL_/?igsh=MXR2ajRyMnlveGV2Mg==

almostmonday

soooo stoked to be opening for @thebandcamino this fall in north america, see you there?🌞

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oh so it isn’t them opening for twenty one pilots later this year

[main knoll]

Ahhhhh okay. Thanks for sharing. Still exciting for them tho!

[regal otter]

"are you aware of" clearly means that DYFAH is real though lol

[stone flame]

i don’t think mojib would be in the Know enough to care about tyler’s shirts. seems like something only a super fan would be in tune with and he’s an industry person and not just here for the pilots

[regal otter]

true true

now to figure out if the UO leak is real or not (probably not)

[knotty pine]

as more time goes on the more I think it’s fake

[wintry sleet]

Still surprised it wasn't denounced immediately, but after the trench tracklist thing i think we're all so unsure lol

[sour smelt]

It’s mostly fake w some real titles which is why mojib won’t answer outright and also why he says it shouldn’t be out and also why he’s discouraging more leaks, if not also trying to confuse people so they’re surprised when the real tracklist drops with the singles

[muted axle]

yeah his "it shouldn't be out there" makes more sense now - he was completely unaware of the tour shirt titles that were teased, until today, so he thought those were leaked just then with the tracklist

at least we can assume now that if Do You Feel At Home is a track, then so is No Kin, Seldom Surface and Is This Really You

[gentle rose]

Yeah, if one is a track then all of them are

[sharp hare]

I think he might've been actually asking a real question when he asked if we knew about Do You Feel At Home?, because if he doesn't know that we already know some track titles, he's probably confused about what he should and shouldn't say. Now he's seeing that we already knew about that one, so he's wondering how much we already know. He was likely assuming we knew none of them until now.

If Gort tells him we already know that DYFAH, ITRY, Seldom Surface, and No Kin are real titles, then maybe he can clarify about the rest bh

[gentle rose]

So Gort is in contact with him?

[sharp hare]

I mean he's the one who's been talking to him I think

[muted axle]

i explained to him the tour shirt teasers and asked if he could clarify on whether they're also track titles. he typed for a good while then stopped and changed the topic

[sharp hare]

oof

[muted axle]

i think he likes the chaos but is on thin ice with what he can and can't share

which is fair

[sharp hare]

yea that's fair, definitely would never want him to get in trouble or somthn

[blazing breach]

possible tracklist from UO in 4 versions

[digital gyro]

whats ur editing style cuz i rlly like it

that blurring effect i mean

[blazing breach]

ty
I'd call it semi-VHS

[digital gyro]

how do u get that effect

[blazing breach]

blurring and image degradation

[oak dome]

why me bruh

he alr hates my guts, i harass him too much 😭

[prime sparrow]

okay, should I harass him next then?

[sharp hare]

My bad haha, I was under the impression that you were the only one talking to him haha. IDK where it is that people were communicating with him. Figured it was someone you knew since ur name was in the screenshots. Misunderstood, haha

[oak dome]

you’re good

[random pivot]

oh

[oak dome]

send nick to the mission he replies to him too

[random pivot]

ion even understand no more is the tracklist real or not

[oak dome]

it’s likely not

[sharp hare]

I think someone said they already told him about the tshirts and he jkust kinda changed the subject

[prime sparrow]

I can put his family on phone for him..

[gentle rose]

We still don’t know

[oak dome]

seems exactly like the mojib i know !

[prime sparrow]

so teasers were real, rest we dunno

[random pivot]

i’m starting to go insane can they confirm the tracklist already

[sharp hare]

Yea, pretty much confirmed that those are track titles. I still think we could get Drag Path also. Graffiti seems unlikely to me, but maybe.

[prime sparrow]

but flowers..

Something like bandito

[prime sparrow]

same and chat is mostly dead too.. so I have stopped looking..

[sharp hare]

Flowers maybe?? Idk, that one picture being called flowers just doesn't seem like much evidence to me, but maybe idkkk

[random pivot]

i feel like flowers gotta be a single to be in the code of the main website where they promote those

[oak dome]

shi that mb i forgot to erase those redundant codes

needs refactoring

[random pivot]

i just don’t understand why he is being so vague about confirming if the tracklist is fake or not

he obviously can’t directly tell us

but like

i feel like there are easier ways

[oak dome]

idk man i think the tracklist aint real

[jolly oyster]

If it was fake, would he just say that it is?

[gentle rose]

I myself think it’s probably real until it’s actually proven fake

[prime sparrow]

this tracklist actually is a figment of our imagination..

[granite monolith]

Oh this mojib guy is legit

I think tracklist is legit for sure now

[prime sparrow]

or this album require us to be mentally insane to truly get it.. hence tyler is trying his best to give us the most immersive experience ✨

[random pivot]

they been telling you for weeks

[frosty flower]

i said this in the verified leaks chat:

that tracklist has a lot of names weve been theorizing about for months

so dont be surprised if some of it turns out real and the tracklist as a whole isnt

[prime sparrow]

I have seen u somewhere

[oak dome]

how u change your mind

[random pivot]

fr everyone been sayin this real and they come and say nah this is fake and now when everyone is starting to say it’s probably fake NOW they believe the tracklist is real

😭😭😭

[oak dome]

yea i alr lost the plot brother

[granite monolith]

Because the guy knew DYFAH

That was a straight up thing someone who wasn't freakily into the band would know

All I needed to believe was some proof he knew more than an average non-fan and yeah, now I'm settled

[oak dome]

do you feef

[random pivot]

fuck

im confused as hell

so what has mojib said overall

[prime sparrow]

teased tracks are real, rest prolly fake

[granite monolith]

He said DYFAH is a track, there's more than 12, there is a deluxe edition with a possible different set of tracks

[random pivot]

yeah i meant like what new has he said

today

[granite monolith]

Ohh, yeah mostly confirming the existence of DYFAH

[random pivot]

only the dyfah thing?

[granite monolith]

Which kinda confirms no kin and seldom in its own right

[random pivot]

okay bet bet

[granite monolith]

Now can he confirm drag path /s

Wait if there's bonus tracks not strictly on the main album we might even see silver weighted maybe

[prime sparrow]

but what were the extra track mean?

[granite monolith]

Would be a cute alternative to the live tracks of digital remains

[granite monolith]

We don't know for sure yet

[prime sparrow]

will they be lore related?

can be?

or just reimagined versions..

[random pivot]

eh idk if id want to have demos on the main album

fuck if the tracklist is fake the thing that sucks for me is not having 14 songs

that was what was hyping me up the most

[prime sparrow]

but as mojib said.. 12 tracks and a deluxe.. soooo?

[random pivot]

tbf he said 12+ tracks

idk that’s vague af

[prime sparrow]

it cant be just 1 more song and thats it..

[sharp hare]

wasn't silver weighted sun just lyrics that ended up on different songs?

[thin copper]

it was mostly Overcompensate plus one Backslide verse

[random pivot]

it was overcompensate but it had some backslide lyrics

[sharp hare]

Yea, so it probably wouldn't be released cuz we already got those lyrics on other stuff. It was just called something different back then

[thin copper]

there were some lyrics that ended up altered in OC or that didn't make it at all

but still yeah it's not like a separate song, it's still mostly just a draft of OC

[granite monolith]

Yeah, that's why I think it's perfect for a bonus track

[random pivot]

silver weighted sun was deffo a cooler title tho

[granite monolith]

It's not new as it's a retooling of two other songs

Maybe the unknown part will be on breach and itd be a fun gap song

[thin copper]

oh yeah if there's a listenable demo of OC it'd be cool to have it

[sharp hare]

I still think Breach will be 12 songs, and then there will be a version with Breach and Clancy combined

[thin copper]

yeah also! some lyrics were straight up scrapped, what if they just made it into a Breach song? or inspired some lyrics from Breach

[main knoll]

Do we think they’ll record Breach live and then put Clancy live and Breach live together as well 🤔

[thin copper]

imo it's either this or Clancy live was cancelled

[main knoll]

(I want Clancy live so badly)

[thin copper]

i just don't see them releasing Clancy live AFTER releasing Breach after just total silence about it

[tawny wigeon]

yrs

[thin copper]

unlesssss they record Breach live too

[tawny wigeon]

no way it got cancelled, too much money spent on thatto just cancel it

• to get ppl so excited

[thin copper]

yeah that's why i think it'll get put with Breach live, maybe as a double album?

[tawny wigeon]

agreed

the outrage if they cancelled it would be insane so i doubt they did

[random pivot]

kind of a let down for me knowing most of this songs have been in the works since 2019 but ig it’s the expectable

[tawny wigeon]

bro i think 12 songs is great

i'd be happy with even 10 songs

[last cove]

its interesting that the next tour is called "The Clancy Tour: Breach" it definitely could make since for the live album to include both

[tawny wigeon]

but i think we're getting 12+ for sure

[rapid nest]

yes we are confirmed

[tawny wigeon]

yeahh i also think its called that with 2025 at the end to show that its a gap or a smaller tour

(i hope, im just coping so hard for a europe tour)

[stone flame]

blurryface live took over a year to get out there. it hasn’t even been the 1-year anniversary for the clancy cbus shows so i think it’s more reasonable to start stressing when it reaches that point

[tawny wigeon]

yeahi agree

these live albums take a long time to be mixed and produced etc

[random pivot]

no 12 is more than fine (if the songs are longer than they were in clancy cause i am desperate for top to go back to making longer songs but that’s just a me thing) it’s just that knowing the context behind the production of the album 12 tracks feels kinda off to me

but again once we get an official tracklist if it’s 12 songs i’d just be like oh :( for idk 2 minutes and then i’d be hyped again

[last cove]

especially if theyre still polishing breach rn, the live album is less of an immediate priority

[tawny wigeon]

yea

[tawny wigeon]

yeha i also i hope they go back to longer songs (4 min+)

[random pivot]

well josh did say they were still working on music on the bts video of the contract at that point

[tawny wigeon]

i want a 5min song on breach but with no silent birds or anything hehe

[last cove]

I want a song that suddenly pivots towards the end and makes you ascend like chlorine

[random pivot]

yeah fr

[sharp hare]

Yea I kinda miss the old switchups they did on Vessel

[tawny wigeon]

longer outros for sure

[random pivot]

i just want a good fair amount of hard hitting alt rock bangers and more ambiental hard hitting (sentimentally) stuff in balance

[blazing breach]

Chlorine literally dissolves me by the end

[stone flame]

they should pull an ethel cain and realize a 90-minute album full of ambient drone music

[sterile glen]

paladin strait (final minute and a half (extended ver.))

[gentle rose]

They need to let instrumentals develop on Breach songs like they did with morph and cut my lip, the last minute of both was just letting the awesome instrumental play

[tawny wigeon]

yepp thats smth i love about trench, the instrumentals are drawn out on a lot of the songs

[sterile glen]

yeah i love it when they let their instrumentals play because their production is always so masterful. i mean my favorite parts of vignette is the intro and synth solo, and midwest indigo has a pretty great instrumental outro as well imo

[random pivot]

imo the contract already has some good moments of this but i want it like just more focused

[rapid nest]

smth like vignette?

[gentle rose]

No not vignette the instrumental isn’t drawn out enough

The intro is something but I mean more like instrumental outros

[last cove]

backslide outro was so close to that, but too short

[sharp hare]

Pet Cheetah too, I almost feel like they'd be too scared to make that song nowadays

[gentle rose]

Hot take: ||for good reason it kinda sucked||

[random pivot]

oh hell nah bro wtf

[frosty flower]

pet cheetah is top tier

[stiff fable]

brb renaming this to Hater Thread

[frosty flower]

really they do it with every song on trench.. that album is an absolute masterpiece front to back and i think will probably stand as their magnum opus forever

[night oar]

Gotta disagree. I like that track loud, so I can literally feel it in my bones

[sterile glen]

nick, pls keep hater stuff, even if it’s doubted at this point, in the hater thread

[gentle rose]

Wait that exists?

[stiff fable]

no

I’m being sarcastic

[gentle rose]

I’m kidding

Me too

[normal fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-missed-over-my-head-gif-26041934

[stiff fable]

[frosty flower]

every song is so BIG, the reverb echoiness of every part of it is just beautiful and makes the album feel epic

[tawny wigeon]

yeah trench is for sure their magnum opus

[rapid nest]

they have a magnum opus and it is not a album

[last cove]

what is it in your opinion?

[knotty pine]

redecorate:

[knotty pine]

YESSS

[last cove]

Redecorate is one of my favorites,
but idk if it beats out the entirety of trench put together

I usually look at their projects in an album view

[knotty pine]

that’s very fair

[rapid nest]

it saved me so i have a bias

[gentle rose]

Idk I know this one guy, and redecorate is the ONLY song that beats out every Trench song for him

[last cove]

Yeah i do love redecorate, it's such an important song too

[rapid nest]

i repeat

scaled back and isolated

[finite tundra]

Any bleaks

[digital gyro]

hi any

[lilac sandal]

I can't speak in the verified leaks chat, but how did we get to the shirt text being semi-confirmed as track titles?

(what was it that mojib said that made us think that and are there other reasonable interpretations?)

[frosty flower]

he said “have you heard of a track called ‘do you feel at home?’”

[last cove]

obviously false 🤓 ☝️ it's actually "do you feef at home"

[lilac sandal]

How is that confirmation? That just sounds to me like he's asking if one of the tracks on the UO tracklist sounds like a real title to us. I'm not sure he'd even be familiar with the shirts so he may not even know that that title comes from TOP and wasn't just made up, so IMO it could easily be him saying "does it sound like they'd name a track that?" as a way to say it's fake

Either way tho it sounds way too vague to take as confirmation

Ok yea I'm confused

People immediately said "yes" as if we've heard of a song called that, but that's just not true

We have had it teased as text on a shirt, that does not entail that it's the name of a song

[granite monolith]

the reason its basically confirmed is a) people didnt explicitly tell him "hey we know this one" or any of the shirt names. so him picking it out was a "oh fuck wait ok this might be something after all"

[lilac sandal]

A lot of people were discussing it after the first responses about the UO tracklist

[sharp hare]

I feel like the only way they could make it more obvious that the t-shirts are song titles would be if Tyler made a video of himself screaming "THE SHIRTS ARE SONG TITLES!!!!!" into the microphone

[lilac sandal]

I disagree, we don't really have any evidence that they are besides that two of them sound like they could be TOP titles

But you could say that about a lot of things, and two of them don't really sound like TOP song titles at all

More importantly for me, why would they randomly reveal 4 titles and not others? They had many more shows

[night oar]

Could that be a correlation between the birthday video (1:22 sec) and the Chlorine letter 019 01MOON 22? It specifically speaks to questioning feeling at home. This was discussed earlier today in other threads. I guess it could be played into since the name was already out there too.

[jolly oyster]

We can’t really debunk it with saying “it doesn’t sound like a top song” when they literally released The Craving (Jenna’s Version) and At The Risk Of Feeling Dumb which were both said didn’t sound like top songs. We can be caught off guard by anything tbh

[frosty flower]

honestly atrofd was one of the most believable songs for me

[full comet]

Why is halfway home the eight song and not the 7th song wtf

[jolly oyster]

From what I remember, it was pretty split. But that just further adds to the point that anything could be a top song. One could sound like it to one person and not like it to another. Anyways, we should just wait instead of this constant debate lol

[lilac sandal]

that's not the point, the point is there's nothing suggesting that they're track titles besides that they were given to us via codes

but a lot of things that aren't track titles have been given to us similar ways

"they sound like track titles so they must be" just isn't sufficient to be strong evidence

[jolly oyster]

I’m talking about the urban outfitters incident. Idk anything about codes

[soft ruin]

it's important to remember the other coded message we got from the europe leg of tour was the title of the album, so with that context in mind, throwing random phrases unrelated to the album is unlikely. they also teased the cover art (and the contract's mv). safe to say those codes are teasing the album, and it would make more sense to be titles than unrelated lyrics

and besides titles or lyrics, what else would they be referencing

i'd say, unless we have other options to put forward, it is just being skeptical for the sake of being skeptical

[feral monolith]

Weird way to spell Clancy

Kinda hoping breach beats both though

[fresh quiver]

trench = “magnum opus”
clancy = personal character album that makes more emotional connections than trench

clancy defenders all the wayyy

[tawny wigeon]

clancy is a GREAT album and is up there with trench.. but the reason i personally don’t have clancy at the top is because it lacks cohesiveness and to me doesn’t have the atmosphere or feeling that trench envokes when you listen to it. it’s still in my top 3

[muted axle]

i agree

[dull marsh]

Do you think they will come in Europe in 2026 for another tour?

[tawny wigeon]

i hope so and i think it is likely i can’t see why they wouldn’t come back to europe to promote this album unless they’re too tired and are just doing a smaller quick tour to close the era off

but idk it would be very weird to end the tour and era after about two months

[dull marsh]

Yeah same. It’s an entire new album, no way they arr gonna end the lore with a one month long tour.

[tawny wigeon]

exactly but honestly none of us know at this point

i’m hoping they announce more tour dates with the second single release

[dull marsh]

Or maybe it’s just copium because I want to attend to another show before a big break from the boys 🥲

[tawny wigeon]

fr i’m coping so hard i want to see another show 😭

[hallow mulch]

yeah absolutely

i don’t see why they wouldn’t

[dull marsh]

I think they will announce it around the Breach release in September

[dull marsh]

To be fair they just finished a one year long tour for Clancy but yeah, I don’t think they are gonna end all of this with just a small tour in America

[hallow mulch]

that’s why i understand a small break in between

i’m 100% sure they’ll come back to europe next year

[dull marsh]

Exactly

In the worst case scenario, they’ll come back just for some festival during Summer 2026

[thin copper]

honestly there has to be either another EU/international leg of the Clancy Tour: Breach even like in the middle of 2026
or a full-blown new tour

[muted axle]

me too 😭😭 please let them come to europe

[tawny wigeon]

i rlly hope they do

[copper kiln]

even later

[random pivot]

why would he do that when that’s one of the names that the band itself gave us

[lilac sandal]

They gave us the phrase but they never said it's a song title, that's just an assumption a lot of people made

[random pivot]

they gave us the name of the contract and the album title the same way

not the same way but throught similar types of codes

what else could they be

[lilac sandal]

Parts of lyrics to whatever follows The Contract whenever the story picks up again and Clancy faces Nico

Or even just parts of dialogue between them

[random pivot]

nah no way

it’s 99% song titles

[sacred cobalt]

Honestly the breach tour rn seems pretty weird with the Amphitheaters and all. I feel like those venues dont allow for the same kind of shows that we got during the clancy tour, so maybe they will actually announce a proper breach tour at some point.

[random pivot]

also in what world would "are you aware
of a song named x" mean "would yall really believe this song title exists"

it’s just a matter of reading comprehension 😭

[thin copper]

oh yeah totally
seems like a sorta "bigger scale" An Evening With TOP

[tawny wigeon]

i agree

[tawny wigeon]

i agree

[sharp crow]

I'm pretty confident we aren't getting any more Breach shows tbh. Considering Tyler considers Breach to be "Clancy Deluxe", and considering they did the same exact touring pattern with Scaled and Icy, that being a main "World Tour" followed by a smaller, 21 show US tour, I doubt we're getting more shows

[tawny wigeon]

a few things that counter this however:

• tyler doesn’t consider it to be a deluxe, they didn’t like the idea of a deluxe so decided to do an entire new record
• icy tour was covid, every other tour they’ve done has had several international legs
• this era is an exception as we are getting two albums and it’s likely they went to tour this album tk everyone

sorry if i’ve come across rude, there’s a chance we won’t get more shows but i’m hoping and also theorising

[stone flame]

there was also that crew member who said they had plans for 2026 and beyond

i think it was in a magazine or some other kind of written interview. i can’t remember his exact job title now

[random pivot]

there’ll be more shows in 2026 i know for a fact

there is no way on earth i’m not seeing them again live in 2026

[tawny wigeon]

yeah it was the bands manager said they had plans through 2026 and beyond

[tawny wigeon]

fr 😭 i’m refusing to believe this

[prime sparrow]

at this point.. we all are just in denial..

nd with no tracklist ofc..

[lilac sandal]

I highly doubt the one era with two albums is going to be shorter than any of the eras with only one

[tawny wigeon]

exactly lol

[thin copper]

i'd even see them doing festivals in 2027 tbh

if not yet another tour, or leg

[safe jacinth]

Nothing new again :(

[sharp crow]

Haha no you're good I'm glad people disagree with me loll

Your points are valid, it could probably go either way imo

[random pivot]

tbf the contract dropped just last week

[vital vine]

Maybe next week we start getting teases again

Or two weeks from now

[magic wadi]

I would guess 3 weeks minimum

[random pivot]

yeah 3 weeks cause i’d say single two drops july 10

and ig they would start the teasers the week before

i wish they get us to perform the contract in jimmy kimmel or sumn like that i need a good live recording of tyler playing guitar

[tawny wigeon]

if they wanna build hype similar to the contract i'd say start teasing end of june

[night oar]

Who knows, maybe this will be a completely different experience and this short leg across the country is a way to signal something new as we come to an end. Coeptum se renovat peractum.

[tawny wigeon]

hmm

[shell shard]

so should I just wait for the “real” breach tour instead of going to the ones now

[gentle rose]

I’d go to both

[night oar]

I do think anything has been confirmed on what exactly is next after this stint. If you can go now, do it. If they do with Braech later, go to that too.

[shell shard]

yeah but money

like 360 for pit tickets is already alot

plus i have to travel pretty far

[night oar]

I would do now as we know that is happening. Which state are you trying to go to?

[shell shard]

birmingham

oct 17

[night oar]

Are you looking at Ticketmaster or resell? Also, you can go to the https://discord.com/channels/269657133673349120/1382589535157751958 and select Birmingham. People may have extra tickets there too. Just watch out for scammers.

[shell shard]

yah true

[idle panther]

Was in the middle of my exams so been off a while

Any news since the fake/real (i still dont know) tracklist from urban outfitters?

[sharp hare]

Mojib basically was really cryptic about it when asked, but the prevailing theory seems to be that the t-shirt codes were probably song titles, but the Urban Outfitters leak was more than likely fake. Mojib probably didn't know about the t-shirt codes, so he was looking at the fake tracklist confused about why some tracks were real and some were fake. He said, "Let me ask you this; Are you aware of a song called Do You Feel At Home?"

Which basically confirms that the t-shirts were songs imo. Someone then explained the shirt codes and he changed the subject. Probably cuz they don't know what they can or can't say.

[idle panther]

So basically. All we know is confusion?

Yeah sounds like an average day of loving this band

[fresh quiver]

we don’t hesitate
to maybe overcompensateee

[blazing breach]

by the time we catch in our peripheral

[thin copper]

wait what wait what

[tawny wigeon]

eee don’t hesitate to maybe overcompensate

[gloomy elm]

Earned my leaks 300 leaks in my adidas leak jacket

[tawny wigeon]

Bless your leak holes why you leak leaking

[blazing breach]

gobsmacked don't hesitate to maybe listen to the leak

[tawny wigeon]

i said i fly by the dangerous leak

[prime sparrow]

this doesnt sound good

[random pivot]

i respect this upcoming artists or whatever and no hate but damn this blurryface tribute album is truly unbareable to me

is this what the album blurryface sounds like blurryface haters

[pseudo oyster]

the james marriott cover is good i don't know bout y'all

the entire point of it was for it to not sound like blurryface

a tribute album isn't meant to be like the original, i think it's good that all the artists gave their own ways of playing the songs

[random pivot]

i didn’t care about most of them i just hated hds and fairly local

hometown was kinda good

but the rest i just

eh

and then hds and fairly local

no

[random pivot]

it’s not even about that idc if they sound exactly like the og or completely different