Leak Theories - SPOILERS (DO NOT SEND LEAK)

[craggy lava]

All this hating on The Craving, shame

[vale fulcrum]

blurry at 3 is crazy

[cursive siren]

the craving is the weakest by far, but its still very sweet and a good song

[steel stream]

Clancy
Trench
Vessel
Blurry face
Self titled
RAB

[vale fulcrum]

it’s my favorite so far but i haven’t heard everything, but i love acoustic stuff

[untold granite]

I need more time to see if it beats trench but as of rn it doesn't but that's okay this is one of their best records I love it and can't wait for the mvs

[steel stream]

But don’t me wrong. All album except rab are S tier

[cursive siren]

nostalgia for hometown/ message man/ polarize/ hds/ goner @vale fulcrum

[vale fulcrum]

understandable

[jolly oyster]

Ritn chorus melody sounds very familiar

I can’t pin point from what though but it sounds like a popular song around 2020-2022

[timber elbow]

Routines sounds like a Joji song change my mind. Love it

[cursive siren]

i felt deja vu from SO many songs on the album

[lament pendant]

What?

[cursive siren]

it felt very familiar but super unique and different from anything. I felt at home on first listen

[untold granite]

it's lavish 🗣

[jolly oyster]

It deadass might be a Joji song I’m thinking of

[lament pendant]

😭

[steel stream]

Midsummer madness

[cursive siren]

@jolly oyster i agree the opening verse sounds so familiar
ig thats the chorus too

[jolly oyster]

Exactly

[timber elbow]

I had hoped Routines would have that sorta Night drive vibe and it didn't disappoint.

[cursive siren]

its the first 2 lines

[robust bane]

okay i have to pause my current music to check this cause same

[jolly oyster]

Yes, please help me find it

[untold granite]

There are 3 credited writers on routines tyler, Paul, and some guy named Jake Torrey

[steel stream]

Is it sanctuary

[timber elbow]

Eh kinda. It sounds like a mix of a bunch of Joji songs imo. I cant pinpoint one exact

[craggy lava]

||“This haze around my face.”|| in Navigating referring to Blurryface/Nico

[merry elk]

If I’m gonna snap necks

[jagged tartan]

and ya know... drop drop drop by

[gentle rose]

midwest indigo really grew on me

[robust bane]

normal people?

idk i may be losing it

[jolly oyster]

I’ll check

I’m looking through tik tok playlist rn, I feel I may find it there

[granite monolith]

"running from a thing that I kicked in 17" is this talking about his faith???

[polar bluff]

what song is this from? i havent listened yet but thats such a cool interpretation

[vestal loom]

What y’all think about Paladin Strait?

[modest arrow]

broke me, i cannot wait for the video

[plush plaza]

oh my god I cannot WAIT TO HEAR THIS STUFF LIVE

[native veldt]

why do i have a feeling i already heard the bass riff at 0:10 in navigating? i think i heard it somewhere

[jolly oyster]

Lavish is giving House Of Pain - Jump around vibes

[deep sand]

Has the HQ rip came out yet or are we still working off the LQ

[timber elbow]

Theres a HQ now haha.

[mild anvil]

yeah hq is out

[native veldt]

someone ripped the CD

we have flac files now

[vestal loom]

Wait wha-

Fr?

[native veldt]

yep

[vestal loom]

I still got the LQ

[native veldt]

So few, so proud, so emotional
Hello, Clancy

[vale fulcrum]

me too, it would be so tragic if it somehow wounded up in my dm’s

[raven gorge]

Same

[vale fulcrum]

whats everyones least favorite song?

and what do we think tyler was talking about when he was debunking the fake reddit album review?

[untold granite]

The craving is my least favorite so far and that's really it tbh for me

[untold granite]

Yeah that review was so fake

[vale fulcrum]

i love the craving, midwest indigo so far is my least favorite just because it sounds like a sai song. IM NOT A SAI HATER AT ALL I LOVE IT but i was hoping for something more fresh

midwest indigo will grow on me for sure tho

[untold granite]

Midwest seemed okay at first listen it grew on me tho!

Vignette might be my favorite rn alongside lavish and atrofd

[vale fulcrum]

im listening to routines for the first time and why tf does he sound like joji

[untold granite]

Yeah idk how I feel 😭

[past rain]

Did you listen to the whole album already?

[untold granite]

I like it though just not my favorite rn

[vale fulcrum]

dawg i cant wait for these music videos omg

[untold granite]

Fr 4 lore ones 🫡🫡

[vale fulcrum]

on first listen routines is so far my favorite

[merry elk]

Told u 👀

[vale fulcrum]

i actually loved that so much

[robust bane]

based

[timber elbow]

Literally about to hit up a night drive just for Routines

[harsh vault]

vingette is amazing

what does the ending of paladin strait mean?

[steel stream]

I think we’ll find out next week with the music videos

[merry elk]

Routines sounds like death bed by powfu

The vibe atleast

[analog portal]

||other ppl have prob said this but the end of Paladin Strait to me feels like a direct intro to blurryface almost making the 4 albums attached to lore feel like a cycle bc you have Clancy feeling like hes finally escaping Dema and the bishops (representing mental health struggles obvi) and right when he feels like hes won, Nico shows up and blurryface is the "bishops" albums if that makes sense idk how to really word it better but you get the idea||

[hollow patrol]

finally got a chance to listen to the album. what the fuck did i just listen to 🤣

[merry elk]

What u mean

[obtuse tulip]

Listening rn

[native veldt]

why do i have a feeling i already heard the bass riff at 0:10 in navigating? i think i heard it somewhere

like

[brazen thorn]

ill never understand the high horse twitter clique is constantly riding

[tribal yacht]

do u guys think the cd journals will explain paladin strait?

[native veldt]

its either from a top yt shorts/tiktok vid or another song from another band/artist i cant remember

[prisma tendon]

beg of ns music video

[native veldt]

ohhh you're right

thanks

[prisma tendon]

ofc! So cool

[obtuse tulip]

I’m not a fan of Midwest indigo so far

Routines in the night drums bang

This flow is insane tf

[cyan parcel]

Yoooo we’re back yaaaay

[obtuse tulip]

Not loving the 2 new songs I’ve heard so far but routines is decent

[cyan parcel]

I’m not participating in leak so I appreciate everyone adding the spoiler thingies to the lyrics

[obtuse tulip]

Ok I’ll spoiler things didn’t know we were doing that

[tribal yacht]

tbf this thread is listed as spoilers but ig i could do that

[cyan parcel]

I’m curious though, wtf is At The Risk of Feeling Dumb like??? That’s the song I was most intrigued by the name of

[summer comet]

yea guys just be aware not everyone is adding the spoiler marks... you're in a leaked discussion thread just be warned

[cyan parcel]

It’s tempting but I’m going to the listening parties tomorrow anyway and kinda wanna experience it with fans haha

[tribal yacht]

do NOT say this around the mods theyre gonna cook u 😭

[dusk hill]

It’s 🔥

[obtuse tulip]

Fair enough

[cyan parcel]

Yeah the mods want people doing it even in the threads which has been helpful cause there’s not a lot of places to talk about the leaks otherwise lol

Most people have been good about it though from what I’ve seen

I’m not worried tho, I’ll be okay lol. I’d rather get spoiled on lyrics than the music

[obtuse tulip]

This album feels like ||trench x sai|| so far and I’m not a huge fan

[cyan parcel]

I think that sounds dope!

[obtuse tulip]

What the fuck is the opening of craving

[tribal yacht]

i love the album

[cyan parcel]

Is there a sad/dark song?

[tribal yacht]

||Jenna|| i think

[cyan parcel]

Like a Redecorate or Neon Gravestones

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 9!

[summer comet]

Has anyone made the comparison with the Livestream Version of Trees and ||Paladin Strait||? because that's exactly what it feels like but a way more fleshed out version of that song.

[obtuse tulip]

It sounds like some ||ASMR shit|| lol

[brazen thorn]

Correct

[cyan parcel]

Also is there a song where the kids get mentioned at all??

[brazen thorn]

Not really?

[summer comet]

||oldies station||

[cyan parcel]

Ooo I’ve heard Oldies is a favorite for some

[obtuse tulip]

I think the album is meant to be more hopeful but idk

[tribal yacht]

||what was the line in lavish talking about bottomless with hands on shoulders and a proctologist 😭 🙏 ||

||we did NOT need that line ||

[obtuse tulip]

Lavish chorus feels like some ||AJR shit|| ngl

[brazen thorn]

Ajr is fine

[tribal yacht]

i dont really like ajr but the song is fun imo

[obtuse tulip]

I like AJR

[brazen thorn]

Its cause reviewers have sticks up their asses. Tyler's being sassy as fuuck

[hollow patrol]

beginning of next semester music vid

[tribal yacht]

thats funny 😭

[obtuse tulip]

Tyler’s verses on lavish are nice

[tribal yacht]

what if nico is tylers proctologist

[obtuse tulip]

Lmao

[brazen thorn]

He definitely gets fucked by anxiety-

[obtuse tulip]

This album does not feel very lore focused so far

[tribal yacht]

thats crazy 😭

[brazen thorn]

The videos Definitely will be

[obtuse tulip]

Yooo navigating is sick as fuck

[tribal yacht]

im calling 2 part album or theres gonna be something in the journals

[obtuse tulip]

Navigating fav song so far

Apart from overcompensate

[tribal yacht]

ill try to see since i ordered a journal on the 15th / tuesday

[obtuse tulip]

I like the background verse drums some drum and bass influence

[tribal yacht]

is it possible to frame a bookmark on a wall or something

[obtuse tulip]

I bet 2 parter I don’t think they would make u need to buy an item to understand the lore lol

Or maybe the videos will explain

[tribal yacht]

im pretty sure the journal description said beginning to end

[obtuse tulip]

Also so far quality of songs directly correlates with song length

[tribal yacht]

or from the beginning something like that

[hollow patrol]

yeah my first reaction to the album was how light it felt in lore. and the lyrics are so grim. I wonder if there's a 14th track or something coming later

i do like the album a lot though

[tribal yacht]

they could have a 14 that they havent put anywhere to be sure its not leaked

probably a single

[hollow patrol]

or it could even be a music vid. I just feel like something is missing as in he never delivered on the story he's been hinting at for 9 damn years

[soft ruin]

well it ends on a cliffhanger, so it is obv not over yet

[tribal yacht]

having no more lore would be so odd imo :(

[raven viper]

butt doctors

[obtuse tulip]

It’s so light bro

[unkempt vault]

im on routines in the night rn

[soft ruin]

he said in an interview the final battle happens "after the album releases"

[obtuse tulip]

So far it’s pretty good but it’s no trench

[unkempt vault]

wondering what that means

[native veldt]

I Am Nico - Twenty One Pilots

[obtuse tulip]

MV? Live shows?

[tribal yacht]

🍑
🫰

[unkempt vault]

I doubt that the music videos are it

[native veldt]

bottom less

[unkempt vault]

maybe the live shows but i doubt that is it

[tribal yacht]

either single or lore journal i think

[obtuse tulip]

This album doesn’t have enough trench synth work lol

[hollow patrol]

i really think i'd have a higher opinion of BF, SAI, and Clancy if he never used the word "trilogy" way back when. kinda messed with my expectations

[hollow patrol]

no it does, but you can tell their vision was wildly different from Trench, synth wise. But you can tell a lot of time and care went in to the synths on this album

[unkempt vault]

honestly i feel like vignette is gonna be a lore song

[unkempt vault]

it feels very lorey

[obtuse tulip]

This album so far (on track 11) feels like if leave the city was a full album

Like not much is happening lore wise. I was expecting more up front battle tracks

[tribal yacht]

whys nobody talking abt the insane feature in Paladin strait 🐦

[hollow patrol]

BRO the jump scare when I was waiting for something, ANYTHING to happen in that last 2 minutes

[unkempt vault]

anyways maybe this leaks will end up fake, we’ll see tomorrow

[hollow patrol]

vignette I think is my favorite so far, that shit slaps

[tribal yacht]

if people have the booklets from the physical copys they could see the lyrics on them and ppl do

[brazen thorn]

Lmao its not

[unkempt vault]

it feels very like heavydirtysoul if it was a sai song

[thin copper]

how could they be fake
?

[brazen thorn]

People have the cd and everything

[frosty flower]

the entire album is online..

[unkempt vault]

idk im just spewing thoughts

[tribal yacht]

i caved in and bought a box set

[thin copper]

like, they are actual songs, and they come from an actual legit CD someone bought and received early

[analog lance]

why navigating hit so well

[unkempt vault]

yeah i have it

[tribal yacht]

Lois Griffin da goat

"hey lois do you remember when you leaked clancy early"

[unkempt vault]

honestly overcompensate feels like such a different song to the rest of the album

[fast compass]

Routines in the night is Clancy reminiscing on his nights in dema. Nights where he can’t sleep and would roam the city streets

[unkempt vault]

oohhhh

yeah i can see that

[fast compass]

OR OR it’s him outside of dema dreaming about his times in dema. Could be a nightmare too

Also have a cocaine induced theory on Paladin Strait.

It’s not Nico.

[unkempt vault]

gahhh i gotta go i havent listened to paladin straight

[fast compass]

OH OH ILL WAIT COME BACK WHEN YOU HAVE

[unkempt vault]

NONONO YOU SAY IT

IM ON SNAP BACK IM NOT MISSING MUCH

[unkempt vault]

Besides dont delay it because most people in this chat have already listened to the whole album

[fast compass]

No I can’t cause it’ll spoil something so big for you

[unkempt vault]

gahhh ok ok

yknow what im skipping straight to paladin

[hollow patrol]

that's exactly what i was thinking

[unkempt vault]

honestly next semester is still in my top 3 in the album so far

1. Next Semester
2. Navigating
3. Vignette

[fast compass]

Lmk when your done

[unkempt vault]

ok

[hollow patrol]

1. vignette
2. the craving
3. oldies station

[unkempt vault]

The craving is 4 for me

my tierlist is

1. Next Semester
2. Navigating
3. Vignette
4. The Craving
5. Overcompensate
6. idk i havent decided the rest of the rankings lmao

[hollow patrol]

i feel like the strength of this album is how personal tyler's lyrics have gotten

[fast compass]

Routines in the night
Navigating
Lavish
Vignette
Midwest indigo
Risk of feeling dumb
Oldies station
SnapBack

I can’t it’s so hard to rank this album cause I love every track and even the one I disliked is growing on me (snapback)

I didn’t rank Paladin

[hollow patrol]

i loved snapback on the first listen. I love how it referenced backslide, I hoped it would when i first saw the track list

[quaint arch]

finally someone who appreciates routines

[fast compass]

Omg it’s 3. I love how it’s uke and synth instead of piano like previous closers. But I can’t wait to hear it at concert prolly on piano

[fast compass]

ROUTINES IN THE NIGHT WALK THE LAYOUT DOORS HAVE STAY OUT SPRAY PAINTED IN WHITE

ITS PERFECT

[quaint arch]

WHILE ALL THE WORLDS ALSEEP I WALK AROUND INSTEAD

[hollow patrol]

for some reason routines reminds me of post malone, i have no idea why 🤣 but i love the song

[quaint arch]

i love it so much

[fast compass]

when ax gets back I need to know. Has everyone here heard Paladin

[quaint arch]

i have

ending shocked me

[hollow patrol]

ya the whiplash was crazy bc the rest of the album is so subtle with the lore and then he slaps you in the face with it

[quaint arch]

seriously

[summer comet]

RITN and Vignette are peak.

[unkempt vault]

im almost done with paladin

[summer comet]

OC, RITN, Vignette/Next semester Top 3-ish

[unkempt vault]

DAMN

[hollow patrol]

not gonna lie i feel like OC is gonna be my least favorite, even though i do like the song

[fast compass]

I don’t think it’s Nico in the tower.
I think it’s Keons.
I also think that it’s a dream.
Banditos aren’t fighters.
They’re escapees and survivors. They don’t fight. They survive.
I think the end is a dream and Clancy is being reunited with Keons his true bishop.
BUT THIS WILL BE DEBUNKED WHEN THE MV COMES OUT

[unkempt vault]

IM DONE I HATE THE CLIFFHANGER

[quaint arch]

i heard it too much

[summer comet]

OC live is peak.

[fast compass]

This make sense?

[untold granite]

at the risk of feeling dumb hits love it

[quaint arch]

Hot take. Midwest Indigo was kinda disappointing still a good song

[unkempt vault]

yes

[unkempt vault]

Its not the best song in the album but its also not the worst

[hollow patrol]

i was expecting a more ethereal/atmospheric sound, but it was super schizo lol. Great song tho

[quaint arch]

i feel lavish is worse

[unkempt vault]

Im gonna have to say that

[quaint arch]

Speaking of, what is the lore of lavish?

[hollow patrol]

lavish is great

[unkempt vault]

yeah lavish is my least favorite

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 1!

[fast compass]

Actually. I was disappointed at first but now it’s so catchy and grown on me

[quaint arch]

i prob just gotta listen to it more been listing to RITN too much

[hollow patrol]

i like midwest indigo a lot because of the lyrics

[summer comet]

i def feel like the mv are going to help with a lot of the context/content of the music itself. but it's nice to start putting my own imagination on what the music video will look like.

[vestal loom]

Vignette is def my favorite of the album

[hollow patrol]

vignette is just so fucking good. explosive energy

[quaint arch]

hopefully it will clear up my questions on lavish

[summer comet]

I feel like that's the songs with the suits

[quaint arch]

when i memorize the lyrics it will prob be my 2nd favorite

[vestal loom]

frrr

[quaint arch]

probably

[vestal loom]

It is

[hollow patrol]

damn i just love how every album of theirs is so wildly different from what came before. you really never know what they gonna do next

[unkempt vault]

next up on tøp:
Reggaeton Album

lmao

[quaint arch]

what you guys think || It’s a tribute to zombies of which I’ve become || this line means?

[hollow patrol]

thats a crazy line idk

[unkempt vault]

feel like clancy is actually dead and tyler is using a name he saw on a grave

[quaint arch]

wow thats deep

[unkempt vault]

the line “name that he saw on a grave” is from trapdoor and they played it at the evening with top events so i feel like thats relevant

[quaint arch]

Whats your guy's favorite song and least favorite song on the album?

My favorite is RITN and my least is Lavish

[unkempt vault]

Lavish just didnt hit right with me

[quaint arch]

damnnnnn

[hollow patrol]

favorite vignette, least favorite overcompensate

[quaint arch]

feels too SAI

[hollow patrol]

all y'all hating on lavish :( shit's good

[quaint arch]

OC definanty my 2nd least favorite not that its bad its just ive heard it WAY TOO MUCH but Lavish i feel is much worse

[unkempt vault]

my fav is navigating, it just makes me excited

[hollow patrol]

yeah exactly, i love the whole album and it's just the one i've heard the most so unfortunately has to go at the bottom for now

[quaint arch]

I listened to NS also too much so its down there for me

[mossy pebble]

it was so sad :(. idk why everyone’s rating it so low

[unkempt vault]

i have the same issue with oc

[quaint arch]

Paladin Strait sounds kinda like a Lincon Park song if anyone's ever listened to them

[unkempt vault]

i just listened to it too much and ended up not liking it too much, hasnt applied to ns yet though lol

[mossy pebble]

||wtf do u think he meant by if i’m gonna snap necks … ☹️||

☹️

[quaint arch]

ummmm lets just say Nico might get the short end of the stick...

[unkempt vault]

tyler on his serial killer arc

[mossy pebble]

OH OKAY TRUE

if he’s gonna fight his problems he’s gotta recover fast

[native veldt]

vignette is a banger

[unkempt vault]

yesss

[native veldt]

beginning sounds like coldplay, then sounds like AJR then sounds like some unknown cool song genre

listening to the banger at 3:24am 🫶🔥🔥

[quaint arch]

how did u get it on apple music?

[native veldt]

uhh do you want the real way or the satirical way

[quaint arch]

real way

[unkempt vault]

both

[native veldt]

satirical: burn your house down it’s gonna appear by itself. only works without life and house insurance

real way: open the flac files in your Apple Music/iTunes on Mac. then plug your iphone, go to your finder then go to your iphone then Music and choose to sync your iphone with your mac, choose the album you just added. tbh it’s too complicated to be explained

[hollow patrol]

anyone feeling like a lot of the lyrics are about how he set himself up for failure by planning out a trilogy narrative? Clinging to promises and putting my money where my mouth is, and so on

[native veldt]

bottom-less 🤷

[quaint arch]

is it hq or lq?

[native veldt]

depends on the files you have

[hollow patrol]

to me it feels like this album is about how Tyler feels that his music didn't deliver on the expectations of others, and he's realizing that he's getting old enough to lose relevancy

like his insecurities have adapted to his success almost

[unkempt vault]

to me the album feels like a more sentimental album in which tyler puts all his emotion into

[hollow patrol]

idk kind of feels like he chose not to go lore heavy and instead just be brutally honest about his current emotional situation

[native veldt]

to me it feels like an album

[quaint arch]

damnn never though about it that way

[native veldt]

i know it’s philosophical

[unkempt vault]

“Cause it's the fear of the unknown
That cripples every step we take” just hits hard

[native veldt]

i feel like tyler has 46 chromosomes tbh

[unkempt vault]

btw im not spoilering that because its from the craving and it is technically officially out there

[native veldt]

with the dmaorg info ref 🔥

Vignette is the literal def of a bop

[unkempt vault]

i just love the craving so much

[quaint arch]

Why are so many people hating on RITN and ATROFD 😭

[native veldt]

hog vibes

[unkempt vault]

im moving it up in my tierlist

[native veldt]

Ride In Ten Niners and Atrocious Train Rolling On Failed Drums?

[quaint arch]

bro what 😭

[native veldt]

my car enjoys clancy way too much

[quaint arch]

car?????

[hot prairie]

these are incredible. ATROFD is absolutely gorgeous

[native veldt]

yes my car

[unkempt vault]

1. Next Semester
2. Navigating
3. The Craving
4. Vignette
5. Midwest Indigo
6. Backslide
7. Oldies Station
8. Paladin Strait
9. Routines in the Night
10. Snap Back
11. At Risk Of Feeling Dumb
12. Overcompensate
13. Lavish

My full tierlist

[quaint arch]

FR

[quaint arch]

NOOOOO WHY IS RITN SO LOW????

[unkempt vault]

Its not that i dont like it

[native veldt]

you can’t make a tier list if you haven’t listened to the album for 3 days straight minimum

[unkempt vault]

All of them are S tier except lavish lmao

well fuck that im making it anyways

[quaint arch]

Lavish is hot ass

[unkempt vault]

Lavish is an F

[native veldt]

1. The Album
2. Lavish being lavished

[quaint arch]

plus it reminds me of the mythic auto shotgun from Lavish Lair in fortnite which make me want to die

[unkempt vault]

sorry but lavish is just
ugly sounding

[finite totem]

Yay

[native veldt]

your tier list 🤷👍🙏😭

let it flow let it flow… ||SHEIN||

[quaint arch]

my only complait with Paladin Strait is the fucking || 1 minute pause || we did NOT NEED THAT

[unkempt vault]

yknow what im dropping next semester down to 4th place

[obtuse tulip]

I feel like I’m missing something with this album people are saying it’s so good but I really don’t get or like it

[unkempt vault]

1. Navigating
2. The Craving
3. Vignette
4. Next Semester
5. Midwest Indigo
6. Backslide
7. Oldies Station
8. Paladin Strait
9. Routines in the Night
10. Snap Back
11. At Risk Of Feeling Dumb
12. Overcompensate
13. Lavish

My full tierlist

[obtuse tulip]

My complaint is if this shit inst a double album now

[native veldt]

tbh lavish is cool to me

[unkempt vault]

I hope we at least get one more song

[hot prairie]

lol literally. i made a version where i edited it out whoops....

[quaint arch]

the door is too your right

[unkempt vault]

at least, im begging my soul is begging for it i NEED IT AAAAAA

[native veldt]

lavish is only good if you like tame impala

[obtuse tulip]

Sounds nothing like tame tf

[native veldt]

to me it does

tame sounds like music, lavish does too

[native veldt]

see the difference? i don’t.

[quaint arch]

me when i heard lavish:

[unkempt vault]

i shouldve only let myself listen to one leaked song daily till the release of the album

[quaint arch]

i would not be able to contain myself

[unkempt vault]

i wasnt able to lmao

[native veldt]

navigating sounds like some beethoven beat i can’t remember the name of

[native veldt]

oh, fur elise

oh no i spoiled the song 😔😔

[quaint arch]

to be fair your opinion can be taken seriously since you though Lavish sounded like music

[native veldt]

to me Navigating and Sext Nemester are related since at the beginning of the MV they just finished playing Navi

[unkempt vault]

honestly after lavish i wouldve given myself another song if i stuck with the daily song thing LMAO

[quaint arch]

I love Sext Nemester'

[quaint arch]

LOL

[native veldt]

snap back to reality

what if josh is in fact a plushie since the beginning of the lore and we didn’t know it

[unkempt vault]

OMG I DIDNT REALIZE THAT CONNECTION TILL YOU POINTED IT OUT

[native veldt]

snap back = backslide since backslide is mentioned in snap back

[quaint arch]

he backslid into writing snap back

[native veldt]

snapback, backsnap, backslide

snap slide, snap chat, snap chats chronologically in line

redecorate, i don’t wanna go like this, stay alive, truce

i’m smrat

[old totem]

Never going to get over the end of Paladin

[native veldt]

the few the proud and the momo challenge

[quaint arch]

me accepting Clancy is perfect (expect for Lavish 🤮 ):

[native veldt]

home depot

[native veldt]

(joke only for motorsport fans) after paladin straight, you now have the paladin backstraight

guys… i think my ears will die soon

because of paladin strait

[robust bane]

this is in line with what i was just thinking. the fact that the music needs to be broadly applicable almost means it HAS to be cyclical so that clikkies can find themselves anywhere within the cycle, but that's problematic if you're also looking to the lore for guidance so i think maybe he's acknowledging the deficits in the story's ability to help us find answers

i wonder if ned is an extension in the sense of a branch within the climax, so that there is room for success or failure with each opportunity

[unkempt vault]

yall know how tyler and josh were seen on a random bridge filming

my theory is that that is for vignette or routines in the night

[granite tiger]

if i were to pick one song to listen to (havent listened to any of the leaked ones yet) which one should i choose?

[tidal salmon]

navigating

[unkempt vault]

Vignette or Navigating

[brave adder]

fave might be navigating, routines, overcomp, or next semester. least fave is either midwest indigo, at the risk, or lavish

[timber elbow]

After looking over some lyrics and a whole day of listening, really loving every track on this thing. Feels like a perfect finale and stacks up with their best work. (Now just gotta wait for these Music videos : ) )

[brazen thorn]

mods let me post a link to a tierlist maker >:(

[brave adder]

i feel like trench, sai, and now clancy weren't a trilogy telling the beginning/middle/end of a story. it's really the same story told three different times through different perspectives

[tawny siren]

Soooo Paladin strait is 1000% a Segway to a continued story right

Potential Double Album?

[quaint arch]

lavish:

RITN sounds like an ai leak and i absolutly love it

[timber elbow]

Theres no chance for a double album. The lyrics in Paladin leading up to the cliffhanger suggest that shit is going down, this is them confronting one another at last. It'll probably be shown in the MV

[tawny siren]

Possibly. Maybe not a double album but what if we got a surprise single drop a couple weeks after album release

Paladin just doesn’t feel like it ended

[gentle rose]

the mv or tour probably show the final better

[quaint arch]

My guess is that the mv will be like 10 min with 3 min being the final battle\

[timber elbow]

This is probably why Tyler said the album needed videos dropped with them. I'd definitely believe they tell the narrative through the live shows, but the music video will answer a lot of questions

[hollow patrol]

i love that perspective

wait, okay so Navigating ends with the same riff we hear at the beginning of the NS music video. I'm just realizing that the music vid for Navigating might end with a perfect transition

sorry, navigating

[gentle rose]

https://twitter.com/WarnerMusicU/status/1791653604371087481?t=MG_Flks-EUaSipI551Boxg&s=19

Warner Music U (@WarnerMusicU) on X

……👀

Twitter · May 18, 2024, 2:14 AM

[stiff fable]

???????

[summer axle]

I hope

[hollow patrol]

the fuck is that???

[stiff fable]

WHAT DOES “SEE YOU TOMORROW” MEAN

[vale fulcrum]

I love that this album isnt as formulaic, vessel is great but every song is the same formula

[summer axle]

It’s so beautiful, Midwest indigo is definitely my favorite

[frosty flower]

listening parties

[fast compass]

Ok ok but imagine what could’ve been done

One single every day up to release day would’ve been so cool

[gentle rose]

||the door in paldian strait sounds really familar to the door during icy||

[jolly oyster]

CARDI??? /j

[winter mist]

ngl i can't help be relisten to trench and feel a little dissapointed about this album 😭 . like it's growing on me but it definetly doesn't hold the same magic that trench does

[jolly oyster]

I don’t think the albums are supposed to be compared to each other tbh. They’re each their own portfolio of art with different art pieces held inside

Trench was a killer introduction to the world, Clancy is a great view inside the protagonist mind during the final moments

[timber elbow]

well ya know Trench has also been around for a long long time. Clancy has had one day in your pallet. They’re also vastly different. I think Trench will always hold a special place in a lot of our hearts because it introduced us to the world

[craggy lava]

Paladin Strait almost folky

[fast compass]

Routines and navigating are top 2 holy

Navigating can be the greatest radio hit fr fr

[timber elbow]

Paladin definitely gives me Running vibes by NF and ironically both tracks are very similar in meaning

[fast compass]

Paladin feels like a Trojan horse

[craggy lava]

Still stand by the birds in PS being the Isle of Flightless Birds which why theyre in dema

[clear sail]

The album leaked?

[untold granite]

Maybe

[fast compass]

Like I don’t think it’s the real ending. Maybe where the song ends the concert begins

[clear sail]

Looks like it did lmao

[brazen thorn]

I love that someone on twitter has a brain lmao

[untold granite]

Yeah it did

[clear sail]

Where?

[clear sail]

Real

[brazen thorn]

Twitter is all I can say

[untold granite]

Not just any twitter lois Twitter

[gentle rose]

the album didnt leak wdym

[fast compass]

Nothing in the tank imo

[brazen thorn]

Yes, it did
Full hq too

[winter mist]

guys wdym the album didn't leak

[vale fulcrum]

my ranking of the songs (list is subject to change, when i ranked sai in 2021 i had bounce man at third 0.0)

||1. Routines in the night
2. The Craving
3. Paladin Straight (will never be in playlists sadly D:)
4. Next Semester
5. ATROFD
6. Oldies Station
7. Navigating
8. Snap Back
9. Backslide
10. Midwest Indigo
11. Overcompensate
12. Vignette
13. Lavish||

[winter mist]

see it didn't leak

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 4!

[brazen thorn]

I love my Goofy long screenshots

[untold granite]

Did the same thing muhahahaha

[vestal loom]

How do you do it?

[untold granite]

Lavish fire

[fast compass]

YOUR SO LUCKY YOU PUT THAT IN FIRST CAUSE I WAS ABOUY TO YELL ABOUT NAVIGATINGS RANKING

[vestal loom]

I’ve been trying to do it

[untold granite]

Premium

[fast compass]

No
Local files

[untold granite]

Or a spotify apk

[vestal loom]

I have it

[fast compass]

Local files

[vestal loom]

But how do I upload my local files

[plush escarp]

how did you get the mp3s

[fast compass]

Want a link to how to do it?

[vestal loom]

Yeah sure

[untold granite]

Yes local files but you need premium or a apk spotify to add it just make sure you have local files on

[brazen thorn]

They're not. They're flac. Better mp3

[plush escarp]

yeah i know but you cant upload the flac files to spotify

[winter mist]

file converter

[clear sail]

found the leak

[winter mist]

it's too easy the link is everywhere 😭

[clear sail]

I'm going to a listening party tomorrow though... Now must come the choice. listen now or wait

[gentle rose]

it didnt leak thats fake

[fast compass]

Vignette 1:09

[vale fulcrum]

i did

[untold granite]

Vignette is peak tyler and paul cooked

[fast compass]

You are tired. You are hurt. A moth ate through. Your favorite shirt.

[plush escarp]

the "leak" is just AI generated

[winter mist]

do u guys think this is a double album announcement? i really hope it is cause || paladin felt like such an unsatisfying ending i need more ||

[untold granite]

Thank you

[brazen thorn]

Yea you're trolling

[fast compass]

Same tempo and everything to that part in pantaloon

[winter mist]

no it's literally all AI wdym

[vale fulcrum]

probably not, ||tyler did say the ending isnt what we would want||

[fast compass]

No no he’s referencing the lyric on vignette at the very end

[brazen thorn]

Do what I'm doing. Go to party then listen on the way home

[brazen thorn]

Wouldn't know. Haven't listened yet
I have it. But im waiting

[plush escarp]

then what is it

[vale fulcrum]

||more so saying that the cycle is repeating, but we wont really know until the mv||

[fast compass]

It’s one word and it’s funny do you wanna know?

[brazen thorn]

Nah I'm waiting

[clear sail]

started listening to part of midwest indigo

[fast compass]

It doesn’t affect the rest of song at all

[brazen thorn]

No thanks

[winter mist]

|| even if i didn't like the way paladin ended i cannot wait to see the mv for it i have so many questions ||

[clear sail]

it's good, but I'm holding off on the rest until after the listening party

[fast compass]

Okii

[vale fulcrum]

Listening parties arent an option for me as im in alaska and i didnt want my first listen to be someone recording the songs on their phone

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 1!

[cursive siren]

thoughts on that radio interview he gave where he said the final battle would be after the record drops

[winter mist]

ngl i feel like the listening parties aren't gonna be a good first listen experience but that might just be me

[vale fulcrum]

tour definitley

[cursive siren]

also what is this "14 song" thing, is that just different craving version?

[plush escarp]

navigating is the best song OMGGG

[vale fulcrum]

that too, i dont like crowds anyways

[winter mist]

like unless the record stores take time to really set up for the event i feel like they aren't gonna be all that great

[untold granite]

It was a good way to bring hype for the album tbh

[brazen thorn]

We don't know

[gentle rose]

probably the mv

[winter mist]

the mvs would drop with the record tho that doesn't seem like it'd be it

[half spade]

can someone write down a double album theory with all the proofs we have so far?

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 7!

[cursive siren]

like, do you think the MV will have longer "non song" parts?

[plush escarp]

ngl i do really want a double album but the amount of meat on the bones of this album its not really needed it terms of giving us content

[vale fulcrum]

potentially the craving, or maybe a lore "music video" thats just instrumental and is the actual finale

[winter mist]

literally just the fact tyler has briefly mentioned his interest in doing one before and this new warner post 😭

[cursive siren]

yeah @vale fulcrum this is what im hoping for, like if the PS video is 12 mins long or something?
i could see that

[half spade]

What post?

[winter mist]

this

[gentle rose]

https://twitter.com/WarnerMusicU/status/1791653604371087481?t=MG_Flks-EUaSipI551Boxg&s=19

Warner Music U (@WarnerMusicU) on X

……👀

Twitter · May 18, 2024, 2:14 AM

[half spade]

Hey I think it would be a 2nd album bc its strange how they didnt do the promo or had the letters/lore as we wanted or expected to

[vale fulcrum]

i dont like this theory, i understand wanting a double album and i would be stoked but youre just putting possible unrealistic expectations on the boys and will just get yourself disappointed

[cursive siren]

these songs are so complex, there's no way there are 2 albums

[valid storm]

doesnt look like its related to top

[half spade]

oooooh tomorrow??

[vale fulcrum]

@plush escarp sorry i replied to the wrong message

[cursive siren]

i could 100000% see a final "lore video" though

[gentle rose]

bro the second message has ø's

[valid storm]

oh shit nvm

[half spade]

yes fs, even a movie
Or more interesting ...
IN THE CLANCY WORLD TOUR SHOWS

[valid storm]

clancy the movie

[winter mist]

it could also be some kind of giveaway announcement for a listening party since those are also happening tmrw

[vale fulcrum]

the boys have said that they want to do a movie

[winter mist]

mark would do it justice

[plush escarp]

navigating is a rock song right?

[cursive siren]

hmmmm yeah kinda LMAO

idk what it is, but it's simply amazing

[winter mist]

bro the smile on my face when i recognized navigating as the start of the next semester mv 😭

[cursive siren]

ATROSD, Navigating, and OC are the kind of energy i really wanted to hear

[winter mist]

for those have listened to the leak, which song do you guys think will have the coolest mv?

[cursive siren]

I was listening with my friend who isnt SUPER into twenty one pilots, and when that part played, he YELLED OUT, "that's from next semester intro".
I was like 😲 you listened to it THAT MUCH? @winter mist was the best feeling

[winter mist]

that's awesome lol

[cursive siren]

i literally cannot predict the videos for these crazy songs

[craggy lava]

I wonder why they chose to put navigating at the beginning of the next semester vid

[winter mist]

setlist order probably

[half spade]

🥺

[cursive siren]

i understood it as, the song is about "navigating" and so it's kind of finding it's place and out of order?

[craggy lava]

I love the vulture references in vignette

[half spade]

Or maybe the MV would be related in some way?

[valid storm]

same

[winter mist]

maybe but it'd be a bit strange since navigating is after next semester in the tracklist

[steel stream]

They retweeted the replies asking if it was Clancy related

[cursive siren]

cool

[winter mist]

there's also the crossed out o's

[half spade]

so as I understand, Midwest Indigo will be the truck on the frozen Lake one, right?

[steel stream]

I wonder what they’re doing

[craggy lava]

yes

[half spade]

Im so hyped, my fav is VIGNETTE for now

[cursive siren]

i wonder which is josh on the bridge

[fast compass]

Tape comes off the album covers to reveal a code???

[half spade]

Navigating vibes ngl for me at least

[uncut galleon]

fotnite

[cursive siren]

i PRAY we get at least 2-3 more lore MV's

[winter mist]

ngl midwest indigo took awhile to grow on my but i love the little charismatic parts it has like the "chill out man, we're right on time" 😭

[cursive siren]

there's so much adlib type sounds in the album and i love it

[half spade]

Voldsoy
New album
I can see it yk

[craggy lava]

Vignette feels like old TOP

[cursive siren]

it ALL sounds so "unrehearsed" and like it's sung for the first time, or live. Like it has this tour sound to it that i cant describe. Every verse that repeats is sung subtly different with small changes

[half spade]

and Voldsoy being the Trench's "mirror"

[gentle rose]

purple era

[half spade]

I think all the leaked songs are compressed af, it reminds me the NS leak

[cursive siren]

i think its GREAT btw

[half spade]

they have a high quality but compressed

[cursive siren]

but it has this distinct sound that could be the leaks compression or something, but it sounds so different to other stuff

[half spade]

Or at least the leak I own

[winter mist]

what if this actually is just all ai that some dude has been working on since they announced the album and just released the mp3 files into the wilderness of twitter lol

[half spade]

This new album gave me some Gorillaz and Tame Impala vibes ngl, Loving it but I wanted an epic song like IOFB, Jumpsuit, or even No Chances 😭

[craggy lava]

2:28 in Vignette chef's kiss

[winter mist]

that synth solo is amazing

[cursive siren]

what is IOFB

[half spade]

hahahahaha that would be awesome!!! or even Tyler using AI and his production knowledge

[winter mist]

isle of flightless birds

[cursive siren]

oh yeah

[gentle rose]

||nicos voice does kinda sound like ai tbh||

[half spade]

I expected Paladin Strait being like IOFB 😭 I love that kind of songs, with an epic context

[winter mist]

and then the actual album comes out and we're all confused on why it sounds different 😭

[cursive siren]

has anyone managed to work out why Routines chorus sounds SO FAMILIAR

[steel stream]

Craving has grown on me even more I know people are ranking it low but it’s like top 5 for me

The inflection in his voice during the last few lines makes me cry

[winter mist]

sounds like fortnight by taylor swift

[half spade]

that would be sick fr, if he managed to do that we must respect him for his wildness and creativity

[gentle rose]

this is actually all thesilentones doing

[steel stream]

Maybe the “second album” is just a secret song that’s like no chances/trees

[half spade]

PLS

At least a single, we all know they release some singles between albums/eras

[fast compass]

My part of Paladin is not your part of Paladin

[cursive siren]

yeah i think we are expecting 1 extra song or a LORE video, or a long paladin strait music video with lore in it with breaks in the song

PS ending is like utterly incomplete

[azure ginkgo]

DUDE the way ||the craving/vignette/snap back all have themes they felt like having a bipolar episodes aches in my heart||

[fast compass]

OK YKNOW WHAT

[azure ginkgo]

people whove never gone ||catatonic || and it shows

[cursive siren]

ok be real, is PS the actual ending bc AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT THINKS IT DOESNT HIT AS AN ERA ENDER

[fast compass]

I WANT THE WHOLE VERSION OF PALADIN WITH OUT THAT INTERUPTION

[cursive siren]

:D

[fast compass]

MUSICALLY ITS GREAT. BUT I FEEL LIKE IT HAS TO MANY INTERUPTIONS. I think the minute of silence was understandable but mid sentence that door interrupts? Then that person

[valid storm]

the birds are necessary i think but def not for that long 💀

[cursive siren]

musically great, lore wise, unsatisfied

[lusty crypt]

I wonder after the story of dema they make a story about Clancy being outside of dema

[valid storm]

no you will be

[fast compass]

I think it gives you a good second to catch you breath before that reveal

[valid storm]

im seeing the vision in the music video and itll be satisfying

[long valve]

Man, I felt some Taylor swift vibes too???

[worthy glen]

Maybe the point of that ending is that the battle isn’t the story. Clawing back to where you came from and confronting what you feared… I think that’s my take.

[gentle rose]

tyler also confirmed will we see ned in a mv btw

[valid storm]

did he?

[worthy glen]

And Clancy did that.

[cursive siren]

I am praying the video gives me my lore itch, this album is 9/10 musically to me.
I am however very unsatisfied in the lore itch with the album compared to trench

[long valve]

Funny thing is I don’t fuck with Taylor but routines is like my #1

[gentle rose]

the interview where he said after this we wont see ned anymore

[fast compass]

Honestly I don’t think the ending is real. It seems like a dream I made a theory before give me a sec

[valid storm]

he said ned served his purpose and that he probably wont be seen again, but he wouldnt kill him off for his daughter

[fast compass]

There we go

[valid storm]

the whole point of the album is rebellion against dema so the banditos are absolutely fighting

[worthy glen]

We did see that Clancy was sort of gathering people by educating them on what’s going on.

[gentle rose]

he said neds journey across the strait is the last we will see of him too

[valid storm]

ehhh ig we'll see

[worthy glen]

So maybe they become fighters.

[cursive siren]

i think its very worrying that many are saying it "isnt real". I really hope there is more to it because it is easily the weakest outro song/ part of clancy to me, and that HURTS TO SAY

[fast compass]

They don’t strike me as fighters.
They’re escapees. They want freedom.
Why would they return to Dema?

[valid storm]

to destroy it

so no one has to escape anymore

[cursive siren]

how do we go from OC to a war with no sort of..... lore build up D:

[fast compass]

Yeah. But you can destroy it by leaving it. Refusing to let it control you.

[valid storm]

oc was lore bc of mv

[cursive siren]

true
fuck

[valid storm]

trust the process

[fast compass]

RITN defo is a lore song

[cursive siren]

YOU ARE RIGHT 😳

[worthy glen]

The lore is fractured in how it’s told.

[valid storm]

right you can leave but what about the people still trapped in there

[cursive siren]

now that ive heard it im very worried that it wont HIT THE ITCH FOR THE LORE MAN

[worthy glen]

Think of each album as a movie. Each are self contained but the story can move forward a bit in each installment.

[fast compass]

I think we should wait. Let the mv come

But for the love of god can someone make me an edited file for Paladin that doesn’t have all the cuts and pauses

[valid storm]

what cuts

[half spade]

You can blame me if you want
I hated RITN,
I hope it will grow on me with time

[valid storm]

its a perfect radio single

[winter mist]

gosh i cannot get over vignette

it's actually so freaking good

[half spade]

that's why one of the co-producer was that man who colaborated with other mainstream artists

[half spade]

MY FAV SO FAR BRO, MIDWEST IS FIRE AS WELL

[untold granite]

Vignette is peak pilots like literally production is top tier

I like lavish and at the risk of feeling dumb as well

[fast compass]

Fight me

[fast compass]

The pauses and interruptions

[half spade]

OOOOH LOVED AT THE RISK OF FEELING DUMB AS WELL
What a catchy and "funny" (instrumentally) song omg

[fast compass]

Navigating and routines is the peak of this album and that’s not what I expected

[valid storm]

what pauses

[fast compass]

Have you even heard it???????

[valid storm]

the birds?

[steel stream]

I was bawling my eyes out listening to it the first time because of how good it was

[fast compass]

Yes that and the door open

[valid storm]

the door open is perfect

[steel stream]

Literally crying so hard and then right after was vignette I was done for

[fast compass]

It interrupts such a nice part tho

[valid storm]

its gonna cut tyler off in the mv and its gonna be fire

[valid storm]

ig but i dont mind it

[untold granite]

RITN is what Saturday was supposed to be. I see more single potential with RITN

[fast compass]

You’re so lucky I agree cause yeah

[half spade]

My favs:
Midwest Indigo
Navigating
Vignette
At the risk of feeling dumb

(not in order btw)

[gentle rose]

might be the same one from icy tour too

[fast compass]

THIS. THIS ALBUM IS BLURRY FACE 2.0 WHERE EVERY SINGLE CAN BE PERFECT FOR THE RADIO

[cursive siren]

except PS

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 1!

[half spade]

which one? do you have any video or audio of it? pls? I don't remember or can't understand which one you are refering to

[gentle rose]

https://youtu.be/ZbKVbPqV8t4?si=WC9x3po9dm_ybWSI

[untold granite]

Midwest indigo threw me off at first sounds very different from the pilots but I really like it! Drums go hard

Tyler's vocals were great on this album

[half spade]

Snap back referring to Backslide was such amazing!

[worthy glen]

His vocals on At The Risk of Feeling Dumb chefs kiss

[half spade]

THX

[untold granite]

Tbh if the craving is the last single ima be upset 😭

[cursive siren]

what's your fave song and why is it navigating

[fast compass]

I SWEAR TO GOD IF FINAL SET LIST DOESNT HAVE NAVIGATING BEFORE NEXT SEMESTER I WILL DO SO KANY THINGS. ITS WHAT THEY WERE PLAYING RIGHT BEFORE NS IN THE NS MV

[half spade]

it would be awesome if at the end of Paladin Strait video they are opening the Nico's tower door,
and it's the cliff hanger for another video that seals this era

[cursive siren]

^ 🤞

[fast compass]

WAIT AMINUTE

[cursive siren]

i hope they have a "lore outro"

[fast compass]

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT

[half spade]

and at the birds/ukulele bridge we can see all Banditos in Dema, with torches

[primal kiln]

I heard people are dissing Lavish and I've come to defend the best song. As a Scaled and Icy diehard, this song speaks to my instinct to turn my brain off while I listen to music. All you people with your lore and theories are cringe. All that matters is the way the song makes me bob my head as I'm mindlessly sedated.

Thank you~

[untold granite]

Vignette is like the new morph fr peakkkkk

[worthy glen]

There are going to be two videos for one song… plausible!

[half spade]

what happened?

[fast compass]

IMAGINE ITS THE BLUE DOOR TOUR THING AND THERES A SECRET SONG THATLL BE REVEALED ON TOUR THAT PALADIN STRAIT WILL GO INTO?

it’s a cocaine theory I’m sorry

[half spade]

AWESOME
I think that a curious and sick way to give us the "end" of this story is in their shows!!

Like making us part of this!!! their clique and banditos all together!

[fast compass]

They’ve said it themselves. They’re a band for the show. Not for the singles.

[half spade]

YESSS Loving that idea tbh

[fast compass]

I forgot the wording but they’re a band for the performance and the thrill over other stuff

We’re the banditos in Paladin strait… we’re the ones fighting on the ground while Tyler’s going to confront Nico (his inner demons)

Fitting that Paladin strait comes on while we’re talking about it

[rain sand]

i can’t believe im this late to the leak 😭

[fast compass]

Defo hyped for the proctologist part of the lavish mv

[rain sand]

is anyone feeling really kind right now?

[odd schooner]

[half spade]

Well so my thoughts about the "final battle" or the end of this story are:

1. Maybe an especial MV (like the I am Clancy one)
2. A movie or a long video
3. In their shows
4. As 1 or 2 singles
5. The 2nd album theory (and it would have less songs, likely 4-9, just an EP

[odd schooner]

I changed the cover to the photo below cause it’s better than the original

[half spade]

Oooor
6. Something like their SAI Livestream experience!

[fast compass]

How do I change cover for Spotify?

I want that one alt with like the black and white background

[odd schooner]

Oh I don’t know for Spotify I did it on Apple Music

[fast compass]

Oh how?

[odd schooner]

I imported the files to my computer and then went into the info of the tracks and changed the cover to the alt. And then exported to my phone (which is connected to my computer via usb)

[half spade]

If you need to put only one song of this album as the GOAT
Which would be?

[odd schooner]

Vignette all the way. The falsetto in the chorus cures me

[fast compass]

Btw

[odd schooner]

But Paladin could be it because like it’s goated

[fast compass]

We’re getting another letter right? Maybe one during the listening party?

[odd schooner]

I hope for one during the party. Although I’m certain we’ll get one for the album release day

[half spade]

Oooooooh, what if they give some prints of a new letter on the listening parties?????
Like that physical letter they sent to fans trhough the world?

[fast compass]

👁️ 👁️

[half spade]

pls let us know!!
if this happen
remember that an exclusive version of it is the one with the cover being letters itself 👀👀
IDK, but pls let us know if in some listening parties they give you it

I share with you something that could be cool af if they have done it:
In the MV where they are burning a town (something like that, I remember they told us in one interview)
What if there is an exact point/angle/frame where Tyler and Josh do the COVER'S POSE, while the fire behind them seems like the one from the cover
IDK, I THINK IT WOULD BE SICKKKK

[craggy lava]

My Apple Music Hates me for doing that lol

[odd schooner]

Damn

Mine kinda stroked out for a bit but I got it to work

Its cause the album was pre-saved and so they were like “you can’t have this yet” and kept removing it

[craggy lava]

It works just combined the Apple Music and Uploaded versions for a sec, had to rename the new one to Clancy (Pre-Release)

[azure ginkgo]

dude the way that at the risk of feeling dumb is so good

like fr fr "those night terrors arent something to take lightly, I know its a risk saying this dont fight me" I FELT that in my SOUL ||the bestie is a vet and I've seen him at his worse and this is like- feels that||

[jagged tartan]

saw someone say ||hi clancy|| could be looping into welcome back to trench as the whole sentence

[west condor]

I don't wanna listen to the leaks, just wanna hear peoples impressions so i know what to expect. Sounds like people mostly don't hate anything this time? Most of what i read is positive

[valid storm]

yeah

[untold granite]

The only song I've seen people bash was lavish

I personally enjoyed it all only thought the craving didn't stand out for me but still a good one!

[warped stirrup]

I haven't hated a single song, some I instantly liked the first listen. But Im sure a re listen will allow all the songs to grow on me. I wasn't the biggest fan of Overcompensate and Backslide the first listen, but once i listened again. They are some of my favorite songs

I think we need time to let it set in, and have the MV out so we can fully realize the story and vision

but holy i am so ready for the tour

[untold granite]

My show is so close August can't come sooner!!

[west condor]

Thanks, that sounds great. For once nobody is saying how bad it is lol. Im super excited

[untold granite]

It's really good !

[plush escarp]

mf has not looked in the other leak talk chat LMAO

[west condor]

You're right lol 😭

[willow fractal]

just felt like sharing cuz it's one of the first things I saw when opening the Clancy Trending tab on Twitter

[hollow patrol]

the 2 things i'll associate with this album release cycle is yogurt and lois

[gentle rose]

People probably mentioned this, but Tyler said in the interview that we’ll see Clancy and Nico battle it out AFTER the album so either we’ll get lore in other forms or we’ll get some new music eventually

[gentle rose]

If this is true, and it’s all a dream in his imagination, imagine it loops back to heavydirtysoul, “there’s an infestation in my minds imagination”

[spice lark]

vignette gave me goosebumps yo

[hollow patrol]

ya the lyrics on this one are grim

[primal prism]

between these lyrics and a couple of other lines, specifically some in paladin, i strongly feel pulled to believe that the theory of tyler using the original clancy as a vessel to complete something he failed to

dude i am still so in shock rn

[dawn kite]

The voice at the end of paladin strait makes me think about the reverse voices in Nico and the niners also about the voice in fairly local

[granite monolith]

Chat do we still not know what's being said at the start of the craving?

[signal palm]

We had any leaks recently?

[thorn barn]

Literally all the album

[wooden perch]

And bread

[thorn barn]

Why Lois and Bread?

[jagged tartan]

someone on reddit said hi clancy is like the ending of fight club

[toxic linden]

just woke up pleeease someone send

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 1!

[pseudo grail]

dont ask for leaks in here

[lament blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/gigan-godzilla-meme-gas-leak-gif-27464060

[native veldt]

backslide leaked

[granite monolith]

Omg are we still on that theory? It's been literally disproven infinite times over by the I am Clancy video

[azure ginkgo]

the tranistion from the bass in navigating into the etheral xylophone in snapback

[lament blaze]

tyler is so stupid how did the album leak if i made an album it wouldnt leak bc im just simply better than tyler he sucks man

[amber frigate]

fair

[finite tundra]

I genuinely thought they where gonna bait us with the 2 minutes of outside noise

[brazen thorn]

Peetah
The leak is here

[nova cosmos]

2 hands on your shoulders while you're bottomless?

Whyd bro have to put that in the album wtf

[proud oriole]

are there any pics of the sleeve you get for preordering at the listening party?

[granite monolith]

Even tyler knows we get fucked in the ass by ticketmaster

[worthy glen]

Even so, the prices were high -before- Ticketmaster.

I still bought a ticket but my bank account wept and pled with me to not spend so much, but TOP prevailed, lol.

[proud oriole]

Thanks

[broken inlet]

High Quality? Or low quality?

[brazen thorn]

HQ

[analog lance]

^This

[proud juniper]

It is something like “I can’t stop crying. I’m getting old and I don’t know a lot about you still”

[quaint arch]

cough cough Lavish cough cough

[azure ginkgo]

ngl I've been skipping lavish its like disco funky and thats like it belongs while rollerskateing not while being entarnced with the lyrics of everything

[proud juniper]

Lavish grew on me big time

[vestal loom]

frrrrrr

[quaint arch]

so true. i feel it would fit better on SAI

[azure ginkgo]

also correct me if I’m wrong

[winter mist]

i think ||”navigating my mind”|| also might suggest that

[south geyser]

haven't listened cuz i'm going to a listening party today i just need to know if there are screams on this album

[round tree]

there aren't

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 7!

[half spade]

I'm feeling like Clancy is what SAI should had been

[south geyser]

MAN

[south geyser]

this comment isn't giving me much hope either 🙃 but we'll see

[azure ginkgo]

manic episode vibes

[azure ginkgo]

like one kinda in navigating

[thin copper]

there aren't screams screams, like in Jumpsuit, but there are some stuff in certain songs, not rly screams but yeah

also, he has a huge vocal range

[thin copper]

a bit like NS kinda screams/rock voice yk

[south geyser]

what's the "hardest" song you would say?

[thin copper]

that's a tough one to answer tbh

At The Risk Of Feeling Dumb isn't that hard globally, but the chorus is quite intense, even punky?

you'll see by yourself, i personally quite like it

[brave adder]

Navigating also goes pretty hard / 80s rock vibe

[thin copper]

yeah! i thought about that one

[brave adder]

I know people feel the album was anti climactic, but I think the true climax of the story will always be the live show: the song Trees and how Clancy found his way out of dema to explore the rest of trench, seeking to confirm the existence of God / higher power

[next jay]

Yeah I’d just keep it to myself

@stiff fable what do you mean by “Paladin is short”?

[brazen thorn]

Hey am I wrong tjat paladin has a 1 min silence then more song?

[thin copper]

u're not wrong

[next jay]

Yeah I think they cut it short I just wanna make sure that’s what he means and im not out of my mind

[stiff fable]

Supposedly it’s shorter

[brazen thorn]

SO TJEY DID CUT IT SHORT
My store cut it and someone said "hey there's more" and he said "nah"

[stiff fable]

Like they skip the last 2 minutes according to multiple people. I’ll find out soon, we just finished NS

[next jay]

Like a hidden track at the end or something, ok glad we’re on the same page we got scammed

[thin copper]

people have reported that they've cut out the second part for the LPs yeah

[next jay]

I was so confused at the end lol

Way to make it underwhelming record store 😭

The vulture screech in Vignette is kinda crazy tbh

[thin copper]

🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅

[next jay]

I’m listening to the second listening they’re doing, I’m annoyed I’m not gonna be able to listen to it more times until the 24th so it won’t be able to grow on me til then

[fallow glen]

They outed themselves as an L word indulger, lol.

[brazen thorn]

I have them but didn't listen yet. I just know so many people here were bringing up the ending and I never heard it

I'm saving the files for the drive home. Aka, now

[fallow glen]

It's likely they were saving the ending until official release
and gave the record stores a shorter version of Paladin Strait.

[brazen thorn]

Probably. Still annoying ngl

[fallow glen]

Yeah.
It wouldn't be annoying for the non L word indulgers though cause they wouldn't know what they're missing
unless they timed the song as it went.

[frosty flower]

im sure the video will answer everything

[fallow glen]

Indeed.

[brazen thorn]

Ohio is totally a real place lmao. It feels so...liminal here

[vale fulcrum]

is it just me or does routines sound like a mix between 2 joji somgs

xnxx and daylight

sound of xnxx and the flow of daylight

[azure ginkgo]

I dont think that Vignette is about drug abuse, I think its about having a mental health episode, the meds making you feel likea zombie, surrounded by people also medicated also zombies
reasoning:

[drowsy bough]

in case you guys wanna see the vignette theory about nico seizing tyler https://discord.com/channels/269657133673349120/1241422639038333010

[gentle rose]

vignette is such a banger, i was thinking it could be a reference to the blurry paint too since it’s getting bigger and bigger

[granite monolith]

I think the paladin cutoff was intentional tbh

Both because it's got 20s of downtime, but also to keep the suspense and secret for the actual release

[brazen thorn]

This. And cause the final bit is supposed to be the video

[native veldt]

maybe his photo editing software is buggy and he can't remove the Vignette effect on his photo and he's annoyed

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 4!

[shy lotus]

||hello clancy|| gave me chills bro

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 2!

[brazen thorn]

100% was supposed to be kept a secret until the video

[shy lotus]

That’s crazy

But it’s just cool that they ||cut him off then the door opens lol||

[brazen thorn]

Btw, no song on clancy is bad. And yes, that includes lavish

[brittle depot]

the craving

[mellow kettle]

Oldies Station…

[brazen thorn]

Nahhh oldies is insanely relatable for me

[brazen thorn]

Get out /j. The craving is the best "jenna" song yet

[proud juniper]

Oldies is amazing

[brittle depot]

the bar is really low

[brazen thorn]

They're cute love songs about his wife. There is no "bar"
All the jenna songs are great. And hell, even relatable

[opal spire]

It's my intro to my adult life ty

[brazen thorn]

Like, I relate a LOT to the craving in the fact that I worry all the time about if im giving my partner enough love.

[brazen thorn]

Goober here meant to say oldies, not the craving

[brittle depot]

in all of his love songs he's always scared something happens with his relationship

it's repetitive if that's the only thing you have to say about romantic love

[brazen thorn]

...and? Hes human. That shit is incredibly realistic
Bros never been in an actual relationship i swear-

[digital spade]

@s are on by default and its inevitable you will forget at somepoint if you comment alot hope this helps

[brittle depot]

it's wack you can't change it

[brazen thorn]

They're not off by default, what?

[digital spade]

they are?

[opal spire]

Yeah I'm always scared something will happen in mine being away so much for work. It's defo a real and reasonable thing. It's nice to know it's not just me

[brazen thorn]

They're not. Anytime I reply the "@ on" is always on by default

[opal spire]

I got my notif when they pinged me

[digital spade]

wait i meant @s were on by default my bad

[brazen thorn]

Ah gotcha

[digital spade]

it was a typo

[brazen thorn]

You're good. It happens lol

[brittle depot]

I'm not saying it doesn't happen I'm saying that's the only thing he addresses in all of em lul

[brazen thorn]

Cause that's what he struggles with the most. Its a human thing

[brittle depot]

hopefully he gets better!

[opal spire]

Fair honestly. I always feel like I'm overreacting when i do it so I think that why I love that he talks about it so much

[brazen thorn]

And also, not all the love songs are about that. Tear in my heart is just how much he loves Jenna lol

[loud sluice]

timh is diff

[brazen thorn]

And I feel like formidable and smithereens also have nothing to do with worrying about losing jenna

[brittle depot]

true!

[brazen thorn]

So honestly, every one of his love songs are different

But I get it. Not everybody likes love songs

Getting harassed by my wife lmao

i love genius

[cloud dagger]

bottomless, aka house of gold

[brazen thorn]

house of gold isnt bad but its definetely not their best

[magic fjord]

brother. it takes 2 seconds to look. its really not hard. hope this helps ❤️

[cloud dagger]

no the music video

[brazen thorn]

i just accidentelly forget about it, genuinely
but i try

[cloud dagger]

they are bottomless

[brazen thorn]

oh duhhh

[summer axle]

i dont like house of gold at ALL. mainly because its so popular and all the non tyler and josh fans only know that song off of them. we know dang well there some beautiful songs out there that not alot of people have heard cause its covered by house of golds popularity

[cloud dagger]

I was talking about the lyrics in lavish when it references bottomless, the mv for house of gold they are cut in half missing thier legs

[summer axle]

ohhh lmao. i thought you meant bottomless as its a mid song haha

[summer axle]

ill have to wath the vid again

[brazen thorn]

what it really meant was having no pants at a doctors appointment

[opal spire]

I don't even look at my husband half the time 🤣

[brazen thorn]

:(
partner* you butt

[rocky lodge]

is there a longer version of vignette cd snippet 1405???

[magic fjord]

i don't know

[quaint arch]

I have a confession… I was wrong. Lavish isn’t that bad

[gentle rose]

lavish is groovy

oldies station is chill i actually like it

[quaint arch]

I just didn’t think it was made for Clancy bc it felt more like SAI imo

[gentle rose]

how is navigating so good

[half spade]

Navi - gati - ng

[tepid flower]

I don’t hear enough love for RiTN

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 1!

[neon tundra]

I LOVE THIS SONG

it’s probably my fav from the album

[next jay]

That’s one of my favorites I think

[tepid flower]

Same!!

[tepid flower]

I think it is mine!

[next jay]

I’m so annoyed I can’t listen to it again til the 24th unless I can get my hands on a leak 😭 I want to spam listen to the album so it grows on me and I can actually rank the songs for myself lol

[wanton wren]

Dumb question but can someone remind me what the words on the band and stole says?

[plain cliff]

what is vignette cd snippet 1405 what does that mean lol

[rocky lodge]

reach out to me

[plain cliff]

huh dm u?

[mellow kettle]

Omg is that vignetti

[rocky lodge]

yes

[rocky lodge]

i need to reach out to this person like fr

who is the creator of this masterpiece 😭

[short aurora]

im friends with him

[knotty pine]

LOLLLLL

[short aurora]

he also made this one

[rocky lodge]

can he reach out to me 🙏

[short aurora]

do you want his discord

[rocky lodge]

yes

[signal palm]

Question guys what does Tyler say in the beginning of the craving

[mellow kettle]

Is that not Jenna..

[brazen thorn]

its jenna. all i can make out is "i cant stop crying"

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 14!

[signal palm]

Ah kk, I couldn't really tell

[brazen thorn]

V's current ranking on 2nd listen

overcompensate - 95
next semester - 90
backslide - 90
midwest indigo - 95
routines in the night - 85
vignette - 90
the craving (jennas's version) - 80
lavish - 75
navigating - 90
snap back - 90 (lyrically)
snap back - 70 (sound, needs to grow on me)
oldies station - 90
at the risk of feeling dumb - 85
paladin strait - 95

final average rating - 88

[half spade]

so Trench is still their best record

[proud juniper]

Justice for ATROFD! Nah jk everyone enjoys something different. That one grew on me big time though, now it’s one of my favorites.

[brazen thorn]

nope. tied with trench for me

[timber elbow]

I feel like it’s hard to compare Trench with Clancy. Both serve different purposes and I think both do quite well at it. But ik people will naturally want to rank it

[signal palm]

Also apparently they aren't playing the end of paladin at the listening parties?!

[half spade]

we need to wait for the MV fr, I can see the last 2 minutes being Clancy and Josh going upstairs into Nico's tower

[timber elbow]

Yeah Clancy running up the tower is gonna go so hard

[half spade]

With his ukulele on the back 🥺 EPIC

[opal spire]

They didn't at ours. I myself believe they weren't allowed to or they'd get in trouble since it would be "time" to play it as the mvs aren't out yet

[raven raptor]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 1!

[signal palm]

They are at others apparently

[opal spire]

That's odd

I feel like it ruins the essence of surprise ): also this dang slow mode gonna make me so mad rq. I hate typing in big paragraphs

[brazen thorn]

correct

[brazen thorn]

they didnt. people just dont know theres more after the birds/minute of silence

[signal palm]

Wait so people just left lol

[brazen thorn]

no
okay so

[signal palm]

I'm confused since I didn't get to go to it

[brazen thorn]

paladin strait is a 6 minute song that the record stores only played 4:22 of
theres a full minute of silence with some bird noises
then at 5:22, the music resumes, the final verse plays
so the listening parties werent sent the full song

[signal palm]

Ah kk

Omg so they didn't get the end that made me shocked

[brazen thorn]

indeed

thats why the ending is considered a leak still
the general populace doesnt know about ||hello clancy||

[signal palm]

Yooo

[half spade]

i feel disappointed bc I thought the 6:28 would be all actually a song

[gentle rose]

What would the 1 minute of birds even be tbf

The chorus again? Another verse? I feel like the song was structured around the ending. Like how this would play out live

[thin copper]

btw if u're on PC, u can just do shift + click on the reply button, and it'll deactivate the ping automatically (only one time though)

[granite monolith]

I've had time to think abt it and I have a theory... Twenty one pilots can't miss

[fast compass]

Leak

Peak*

[fast compass]

Cut my lip: exists

[granite monolith]

wHAT

[opal spire]

wrong

I'm gonna get lyrics from cut my lip tattooed on my arms THIS SLOW MODE ERG

[merry elk]

Nah fam

[half spade]

an important bridge maybe, more instrumental not just birds
Idk, with a synth, bass, or even an slow ukulele solo as a bridge

[fierce pond]

shit + click

i'd rather not shit while clicking things

[shy lotus]

waaaa

[thin copper]

shift

[tribal yacht]

i checked the genius lyric page for lavish 😭

[summer comet]

Any routine in the nighters in chat?