#DID Resources

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wary dust
versed carbon
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i second this motion

grand wasp
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@light karma

light karma
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Oh okay yeah i can update it

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Ty

dull jungle
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@light karma

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Also why weren't any systems involved in this decision??? (as far as i can tell)

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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

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I love it when singlets help spread misinformation!!!

light karma
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idfk these things. I was given links from cleveland clinic and mayo clinic who are both pretty large research medical organizations. I just woke up so i didnt pay attention to who posted it; i mixed them up for someone else i guess

dull jungle
wary dust
wary dust
versed carbon
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i hate to be that person but the link you posted doesn't have any sources, or if i missed them I'm really sorry, Dema Master

wary dust
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^ i can't find any sources on this carrd link at all

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we should be using sources from medical organizations with professionals

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@light karma

wary dust
versed carbon
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also when i look up the username of the person that made the carrd there's no results
edit: nvm there is an account but it's private

wary dust
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it's fine if you don't like my sources because you think the theory is "outdated" but can you provide some sources from medical organizations instead of a carrd link

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alright here i've found some information on the theory mentioned that isn't a carrd link, and the author seems to have credentials

wary dust
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even though i still believe this could be helpful in explaining DID to people who haven't heard of it before

lilac wolfBOT
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Are you even a system?

tyler ↩️

[Reply to:](#1102147745273352272 message) even though i still believe this could be helpful in explaining DID to people who haven't heard of i…

wary dust
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i don't feel comfortable talking about my mental health conditions, thanks

lilac wolfBOT
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Core theory is out dated and its a very well known fact in the DID community

wary dust
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it discusses the structural dissociation theory

versed carbon
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Kye the problem isnt the material, it's the source

lilac wolfBOT
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I just used the one that explained it the best way

wary dust
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my intention was to change the source to something more reputable

lilac wolfBOT
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I had showed it to a friend before

wary dust
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as currently the source is not from a mental health professional/does not have any sources linked, and is instead offering courses

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so i feel we should change the blog links to something different

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that's why i made this suggestion and that's why i took places like cleveland/mayo/nih instead

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if you have different sources that are reputable then feel free to drop them here

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i found that one source and the author seems to have a background in trauma and dissociation, and has some papers linked/they are a doctoral student

lilac wolfBOT
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I am gonna fucking lose my mind

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I was just fucking using a link I already had ready for these situations

wary dust
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yeah that's the one i posted

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looks like a good source

magic cedar
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hey

lilac wolfBOT
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Aleks

wary dust
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it wasn't an argument to begin with?

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i thought we were just having a dialogue about the sources

wispy quartz
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chill brah

lilac wolfBOT
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It felt like one

wary dust
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if this was an argument i didn't know it was

wispy quartz
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kye why does your pfp say one year

magic cedar
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guys listen

wary dust
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again if anyone else has good sources about DID please post them

wispy quartz
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aleks i met someone on papers please with ur name

wary dust
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this is after all a thread open to discussion

lilac wolfBOT
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One year since I found out I was a system and I'm somehow not dead yet.

damn ↩️

[Reply to:](#1102147745273352272 message) kye why does your pfp say one year

rancid thorn
magic cedar
wispy quartz
magic cedar
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anyway keep it on topic

rancid thorn
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if u were to give another source backed up by a group thats trusted within the area, it could be a better source

wispy quartz
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Aleks Tchoub

magic cedar
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lets stay on topic

wispy quartz
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i arrested her she has a bomb on her back

wary dust
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i'm sure if multiple people come together we can find some other good sources

lilac wolfBOT
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I was using it under the impression that they didn't know much

yangel (not random) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1102147745273352272 message) a carrd isn’t necessarily used to give us information about DID

wispy quartz
lilac wolfBOT
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Demonic Kara

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WHY IS KARA DEMONIC?

versed carbon
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what

wispy quartz
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paris super reacted my message

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i forget these super reactions are a thing

limpid dust
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i didnt mean to

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was a waste of my 2 a week

lilac wolfBOT
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I just wang to go to bed

wispy quartz
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it's only 2 a week?

wary dust
wispy quartz
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damn

limpid dust
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4

wispy quartz
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oh

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very low number still

limpid dust
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but anyway

wispy quartz
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they gatekeeping reactions

limpid dust
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like

rancid thorn
wispy quartz
limpid dust
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idk its just.. not a good idea to put non peer reviewed shit as a be all end all explanation, peer reviewal is important to the scientific process and it prevents silly shit from happening

rancid thorn
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the initial source given was backed up and reviewed by others

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nvm guys paris got this ill go to sleep 😴

versed carbon
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gn yangel

wispy quartz
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gn yangel

sly solstice
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yeah like if im asking for a source on something and one person gives me like 3 medical institutions research and information and the other person gives me a carrd and a tumblr blog.. im going with the medical professional

wispy quartz
sly solstice
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thats all from me kara out, peace 🫡

versed carbon
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bye kara

lilac wolfBOT
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I can't explain what I was thinking at the time but I don't think I was entirely there

limpid dust
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did-research is a great source rather than the carrd, you could TOTALLY like make a carrd with information pulled from NIH.gov and did-research.org but it would have to be cited for it to be trustworthy

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ykwim

wary dust
limpid dust
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my main concern is just the perceived authenticity of whatever source

lilac wolfBOT
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now ports gonna yell ag me too oh great

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just jail me

wispy quartz
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why

wary dust
versed carbon
wary dust
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there's one carrd in that list that's pinned that links sources

lilac wolfBOT
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ive seen this øne before

magic cedar
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at the end of the day, the actual site is more trustable, verifying if the carrd is trustable is just wasting more time that could be saved by just going to official sites

charred egret
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Nope, we are not antagonizing you. If you'd like to chat in private with one of us, say so

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We just would like to help.

limpid dust
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although i will say kye i do get and agree with what youre sayinbg about how the carrd is more accessable and understandable but i still dont think its the best look (that carrd specifically, not ANY carrd on DID) i just would feel more comfortable if sources were cited to enforce the reputation of it, ykwim?

charred egret
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We don't want to make you feel ganged up because of something that's meant to help you, but also help others understand this condition better

wary dust
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just to make sure we're on the same page i have no negative/ill intentions by the way

limpid dust
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yeah honestly we didnt mean to gang up we all kinda stumbled upon this at similar times

lilac wolfBOT
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ok

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can i sleep now?

limpid dust
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yes go to sleep

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youre all good

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youre not in trouble dont worry

versed carbon
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gn Kye

lilac wolfBOT
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ok gn

lilac wolfBOT
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can we atleast not use cleveland? mayo clinic is fine.

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does mayo clinic serve mayo?

versed carbon
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whats wrong with Cleveland? /g

lilac wolfBOT
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putting cleveland would lead to more confusion later on and people asking who the "original" is when there isn't one.

versed carbon
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yeah people think there is like a 'main' person but all the alters make up the 'main' person, correct me if im wrong I'm still learning and it's hard to wrap my head around it

lilac wolfBOT
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Theres not really a main person, theres just the host who is the alter who fronts the most but any alter including introjects can be a host and hosts can change throughout a persons life.

versed carbon
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oh i didnt know the host could change

lilac wolfBOT
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There can also be co-hosts aswell and those can change.

versed carbon
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pretty interesting stuff

lilac wolfBOT
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Which is why we shouldn’t use cleveland clinic as a source for the pinned messages because it spreads misinformation.

sly solstice
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do you have any sources saying that its outdated? because from what i can tell they pretty much uses "core" in the same way youre using "host"

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yes hosts can change but that means they would be the "core personality" or whatever, wouldnt it?

sly solstice
wary dust
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but just to add

frail martenBOT
wary dust
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we don’t have to use cleveland if it’s truly outdated, let’s just decide on some trustworthy sources

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if you have any that you think would be good feel free to put them here

limpid dust
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mayo is about as reputable as cleveland

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so if you’re cool with mayo i’m cool with mayo and i’m sure the rest of the staff will be, although I can’t speak for everyone

dull jungle
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It's supposed to be the word for the original person before the trauma

dull jungle
lilac wolfBOT
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it states that did is when the personality is not able to fully form due to trauma

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there can't be a core if the personality didn't fracture to begin with, it came already separated and refused to fuse together due to trauma

sly solstice
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i understand how fragmentation works, nobody is implying that though, im just saying the article only uses the term “core” once and its in the same context that you would use for “host”, i see them used interchangeably all the time

lilac wolfBOT
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its not really interchangeable though. example: butters right now is fronting the most and you wouldn't call him a core because he doesn't fit the definition

sly solstice
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nowhere is it “promoting core theory”, its just using a basic term to explain the general concept of certain alters being the “main” or “most active” or whatever

lilac wolfBOT
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i just don't want new people to get the wrong idea

sly solstice
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i doubt anyone is going to look at an article that has the word “core” in it once and doesnt mention “originals” anywhere and ask about it

lilac wolfBOT
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why do singlets get to choose what information people will get when people ask why theres a bot in the chat? (please don't be mean in your reply i just wanna know) /genq

sly solstice
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ive done my own extensive research on this stuff, and ive had several systems explain the same idea that the term core is interchangeable for the host or most prominent identity within a system, and because most people in this server are "singlets", and from an outside perspective a lot of the terms and stuff used by systems dont make a whole lot of sense, not to mention they arent like medically recognized or anything. I'm not saying theyre wrong per se, medical research can be like a few years behind or whatever, but its a better idea imo to have resources like NIH and Cleveland and Mayo explaining it in terms that anyone can understand. If someone asks about your "core", which i doubt would happen anyway, you could just say "we dont have a core, but x is the host" or whatever idk

lilac wolfBOT
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i'm tired and stressed and sad so im giving up on doing anything about this you can move on

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at this rate i couldnt care less about cleveland clinic

charred egret
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@dull jungle hello

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i'd like to help clear up this debate

lilac wolfBOT
charred egret
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great, we'll replace the cleveland clinic one

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as for my understanding of the topic the expression "usual personality" does not cover a wide variety of DID experiences

lilac wolfBOT
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yes

lilac wolfBOT
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We should also acknowledge OSDD systems too

charred egret
lilac wolfBOT
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Oh sorry, I didnt see

port ↩️

[Reply to:](#1102147745273352272 message) fair point. the new pinned message i sent with sacarver acknowledges pk is for both DID/OSDD systems…