Mirage F1 discussion | Hoggit | Page 1

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 3:06 PM

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Oh, were you using a center mounted matra?

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 3:29 PM

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Pretty sure the jet is complaining to me when my JPT goes over 800, I think I see "LIM" or something illuminate

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seems to go away if I throttle back and let temp drop

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 3:46 PM

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Or was I hitting a speed restriction...

low musk Jul 22, 2022, 3:46 PM

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What's the "weapon release" control labelled as in the bindings for launching 530s/magics etc?

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 3:47 PM

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I posted some of those in #999732250734239904 , it's "Bombs, rockets, missiles and sight recorder button"

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or something similar

fair ocean Jul 22, 2022, 3:51 PM

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muted torrent Or was I hitting a speed restriction...

I want to try out flying past mach 1.4 and getting the engine into overspeed mode

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 3:52 PM

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Yeah, I want to try a max speed attempt soon as well

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overspeed mode sounds like fun

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Craziness

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fair ocean Jul 22, 2022, 3:57 PM

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broke the engine trying

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achieved!

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 4:03 PM

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Nice. Don't adjust thrust lever~~s ~~now I guess

fair ocean Jul 22, 2022, 4:04 PM

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....

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 4:04 PM

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fair ocean ....

what?

fair ocean Jul 22, 2022, 4:04 PM

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couldn't help myself

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had to see if something happening would be modelled

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 4:05 PM

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Ah. Did you break it?

fair ocean Jul 22, 2022, 4:05 PM

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Spectacularly

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ever tried to throttle up but the RPM gauge acts like a compass that just found magnetic north

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 4:06 PM

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Oh. You got to go over 9000??!?!?!!

fair ocean Jul 22, 2022, 4:07 PM

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it did then broke

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then got stuck at around 5000rpm

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 4:07 PM

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windmilling maybe

fair ocean Jul 22, 2022, 4:07 PM

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whole plane started shaking

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and then the rpm gauge started going crazy

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https://gfycat.com/difficulteminentcoral

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muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 4:08 PM

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This says I should try to get to 1.8 for a supersonic climb. Have you gotten up to that speed?

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muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 4:08 PM

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fair ocean https://gfycat.com/difficulteminentcoral

Interesting. You're still burning something judging by that JPT gauge

fair ocean Jul 22, 2022, 4:09 PM

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and still getting some power. After a few mins though it completely shut down

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 4:09 PM

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No fire though huh

fair ocean Jul 22, 2022, 4:16 PM

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getting there

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Mach 1.8 reached

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Mach 2.2 !

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aaannndd after crossing that the engine has failed.

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 4:21 PM

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Exactly as in the manual

fair ocean Jul 22, 2022, 4:27 PM

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for an EA module, this thing is modelled so nicely

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 4:28 PM

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I'm super happy so far

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Lights on for safety JP

austere pewter Jul 22, 2022, 5:05 PM

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fair ocean aaannndd after crossing that the engine has failed.

instantly? the other day i did something similar. it was coughing for about a minute and then it seized.

slate nebula Jul 22, 2022, 5:59 PM

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My engine died at Mach 2.3 or so last time I tried

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 6:02 PM

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Fuel: We can take 4240 liters max, so that's roughly 3400 kg, right?

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internal

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(I'm rule of thumbing around 0.8 kg per liter)

slate nebula Jul 22, 2022, 6:03 PM

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Internal capacity is 3,397kg

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 6:05 PM

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Oh, there it is on the quick start guide aircraft characteristics. I'm looking for fuel burn stuff now

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Hmm, not seeing it but this IT call is still loud in my ears. I'll just note what I see on that gauge later when I figure out how to read it

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I'm assuming this is liters/hr:

austere pewter Jul 22, 2022, 6:08 PM

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no. just L

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2 needles

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 6:08 PM

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that's how much I have? Not using. Got it

austere pewter Jul 22, 2022, 6:09 PM

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3 is also how much you have.

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*in most cases

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 6:09 PM

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Yeah, was using that last night

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Is there a fuel burn rate gauge?

austere pewter Jul 22, 2022, 6:10 PM

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no

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is AWACS Declare working?

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 6:39 PM

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austere pewter is AWACS Declare working?

I asked in two other places with no responses. So maybe not. Will add to my list tonight to test out

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if not, VID is all we got

austere pewter Jul 22, 2022, 6:54 PM

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And F10. Hopefully.

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Ty

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 6:59 PM

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I want to know too

fluid turret Jul 22, 2022, 10:17 PM

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If you get it to 651kn at around 65k feet it just blows up.

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 11:24 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/794353408597426219/1000168278154551306/f1fuel.png

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Thanks @odd stone

muted torrent Jul 23, 2022, 12:47 AM

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@slate nebula - have you played with the TWS button yet?

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slate nebula Jul 23, 2022, 12:48 AM

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Not yet

open pasture Jul 23, 2022, 2:37 AM

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is there a list of what all the rocket heads do?

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or well..is there a difference between the lg whd and the normal he/frag etc?

fluid turret Jul 23, 2022, 3:49 AM

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Hmm so I got most the radar functions but the radar control stick range doesn’t actually change the radar range.
Is that even the right one for that?

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Ah yeah it just moved the cursor

austere pewter Jul 23, 2022, 3:52 AM

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fluid turret Hmm so I got most the radar functions but the radar control stick range doesn’t ...

Yes. The range slider just aft of the radar stick.

fluid turret Jul 23, 2022, 3:53 AM

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Ah okay I see now

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Hmmm doesn’t want to move is that what the radar stick unlock is for?

muted torrent Jul 23, 2022, 3:58 AM

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Should be able to just move it. Just doesn’t go past 35 nm I think

fluid turret Jul 23, 2022, 3:58 AM

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Weird I can move it with the mouse but it won’t move with keybinds

muted torrent Jul 23, 2022, 3:59 AM

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Hmm. I just set my normal warthog tdc to the radar axis and it worked without doing anything in cockpit

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There’s also binds in lieu of an axis input but that was infuriating when I tried it

austere pewter Jul 23, 2022, 4:00 AM

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fluid turret Weird I can move it with the mouse but it won’t move with keybinds

the keybonds dont work as expected. via keybinds you cannot select the intermediate ranges.

fluid turret Jul 23, 2022, 4:01 AM

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Ah that explains a lot.

austere pewter Jul 23, 2022, 4:01 AM

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sry i didnt say that b4. went to do some chores and i thought about it.

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for MF1, if you are experience keybind weirdness, its common

fluid turret Jul 23, 2022, 4:02 AM

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No it’s fine. I guess just gotta wait for a patch then. For now I’ll do it manually

austere pewter Jul 23, 2022, 4:04 AM

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if you have a stream deck or something similar you can set it that way.

fluid turret Jul 23, 2022, 4:20 AM

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Alright sweet that sorted out a lot of stuff.
God I love the weapon and radar workflow. Once I can properly adjust range it’ll be damn near perfect.

austere pewter Jul 23, 2022, 4:35 AM

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Whats the name of that range control in the controls menu?

fluid turret Jul 23, 2022, 4:55 AM

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It should be something like radar control stick scale.

austere pewter Jul 23, 2022, 5:00 AM

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Radar control stick scale selection ty

muted torrent Jul 23, 2022, 5:04 AM

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fluid turret Weird I can move it with the mouse but it won’t move with keybinds

ah, not the adilade, the scope range is what you were talking about. Got it. Sorr

muted torrent Jul 23, 2022, 5:34 AM

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austere pewter is AWACS Declare working?

Oh, here. Sleep depravation is getting to me

austere pewter Jul 23, 2022, 5:35 AM

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ah. np. there isnt one. looking on how i may mod it in.

muted torrent Jul 23, 2022, 5:37 AM

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That explains it

primal timber Jul 23, 2022, 5:54 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsDu6EmCW3k

YouTube

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epic trailer

muted torrent Jul 23, 2022, 6:08 AM

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Did you get the module?

austere pewter Jul 23, 2022, 7:01 AM

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FYI, autostart puts the gear lever up. It wont raise till you take off. be careful.

muted torrent Jul 23, 2022, 7:49 AM

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I can't get the CAP warning light to extinguish and couldn't find what it means

fluid turret Jul 23, 2022, 12:31 PM

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muted torrent I can't get the CAP warning light to extinguish and couldn't find what it means

Pretty sure it’s canopy air pressure. Gotta lock the canopy and make sure the switch that controls avionics and cabin cooling is on.

uneven bluff Jul 23, 2022, 12:57 PM

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anyone know when its gonna get on trial?

fair ocean Jul 23, 2022, 1:07 PM

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in 2 weeks, give or take

fair ocean Jul 23, 2022, 1:21 PM

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muted torrent I can't get the CAP warning light to extinguish and couldn't find what it means

It does go away usually when you rearm the inverter

austere pewter Jul 23, 2022, 1:40 PM

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wheres the rest of that pic?

fair ocean Jul 23, 2022, 2:01 PM

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@austere pewter saw it initially on the redkite startup vid.

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austere pewter Jul 23, 2022, 2:02 PM

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thank you!

low musk Jul 23, 2022, 2:51 PM

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okay so I just used auto start and started rolling into the sky on hoggit training, first time I strike the tail as I try lift off too slow and the limit warning blares constantly, 2nd time I get into the air with no strikes but limit warning still blares?

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I pressed the keys I set to gear up/down and flaps up/down so what was I doing wrong?

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I'll go sit in training flight A if anyone fancies giving a hand

strong raptor Jul 23, 2022, 3:10 PM

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120 knots, rotate to no more than 12 degrees, and hold. Lift off at around 150 knots. LIM warning will sound if the gear and/or flaps are down above 214 knots.

austere pewter Jul 23, 2022, 3:28 PM

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low musk I pressed the keys I set to gear up/down and flaps up/down so what was I doing w...

flip the gear safety lever first. or enable the Special Option for gear in the dcs menu,

low musk Jul 23, 2022, 3:28 PM

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austere pewter flip the gear safety lever first. or enable the Special Option for gear in the d...

ty ty

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Now I need to look up TACAN navigation so I can find where I took off from and try landing

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But shooting down the drone C101s was fun

austere pewter Jul 23, 2022, 3:44 PM

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nice. tacan navigation with the MF1 is simple. review how to use it in the manual first.

muted torrent Jul 23, 2022, 3:51 PM

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fair ocean It does go away usually when you rearm the inverter

This sounds right. I reset the inverter but probably missed something. I’ve watched zero videos

muted torrent Jul 23, 2022, 3:59 PM

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low musk Now I need to look up TACAN navigation so I can find where I took off from and t...

let us know if you have questions about tacan but maybe best for #questions

austere pewter Jul 23, 2022, 4:23 PM

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Surface radar mode works great as a sea radar.

sly yew Jul 23, 2022, 7:07 PM

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Would manual bombing techniques and numbers (roughly) from the F5 carry over to the MF.1?

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Like a Mk82 dropped at x angle, y speed, and z alt should land in roughly the same area regardless of airframe I'd think

slate nebula Jul 23, 2022, 7:11 PM

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Yes however adjustment for zero sight line and such are obviously going to be different

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You can probably find the difference by comparing similar profiles to the ones Aerges provides

sly yew Jul 23, 2022, 7:13 PM

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Since Mirage F1 tutorials don't exist yet, I figured I'd use F5 manual bombing tutorials to get a feel for it

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I did see the bombing tables included in the default Kneeboard so I'll def reference those, but they're only for the SAMP-250's

slate nebula Jul 23, 2022, 7:16 PM

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I've been using the 500 knot, 20 degree, 3,000 profile for the SAMPs and it works great

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I think there are charts for Mk 82s there though, aren't there?

sly yew Jul 23, 2022, 7:17 PM

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In the manual I think yeah. I'll have to pull those pages out and add them to the kneeboard

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Actually, the manual doesn't have the tables for the MK82's

austere pewter Jul 23, 2022, 7:32 PM

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slate nebula I think there are charts for Mk 82s there though, aren't there?

No

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Only Matra rockets and SAMP 250 LD

slate nebula Jul 23, 2022, 8:02 PM

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Unfortunate

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The table for SAMP works for the 400s too by the way

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They are already in the kneeboard by the way

austere pewter Jul 23, 2022, 8:06 PM

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Unfortunately unreadable in some VR and flatscreen resolutions. Which is why I made VR friendly ones https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3325088/ 😀

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I also made a streamdeck calculator for them for those interested.

sly yew Jul 23, 2022, 8:29 PM

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slate nebula The table for SAMP works for the 400s too by the way

Good to know!

sly yew Jul 23, 2022, 8:29 PM

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austere pewter Unfortunately unreadable in some VR and flatscreen resolutions. Which is why I m...

Definitely will be using these, ty!

clever marsh Jul 23, 2022, 11:49 PM

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400s are ridiculous

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especially the chute ones

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afterburner above target, release, stonks

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 12:36 AM

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muted torrent I can't get the CAP warning light to extinguish and couldn't find what it means

Solved by ~~one or both of~~:

-(optional) Emergency gyro magnetic switch Marche
-Heading and vertical reference system control switch GM

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 1:07 AM

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// kininja's cold start abbreviated procedure v3 20220723

//right console
-BATT
-AVERT SON (Warning horn switch)
-Cockpit lighting as needed

//dash
-Master failure warning light - click to silence audio alarm

//left console
-COMPE FEU - LP main cock switch
-POMPES (Gauche et Droit) - L/H and R/H LP pump switches
-DEMAR Start button cover (automatically turns on the Starting pump switch)
--> Start button depress (~1 sec hold)
--> Throw throttle fwd to "give it some gas" around 300 to 500 RPM until past around 1000 RPM and back to flight idle, if you miss this, have to rearm/refuel before starting again? -oddly the nosewheel steering light extinguishes around the same time I go back to idle, don't know if related ("Dirig")

//right console
-CONV REARM (Inverter selector switch reset)
-Flip all switches up (HORIZ ELEC, EL POMPE, ANEMO, RWR, leave Police off that's a search light)
-Sight selector Marche
-Firing fuel dipper Marche
-Radar selector FWD (there's a middle and full fwd, use either?)
-(OPTIONAL) Emergency gyro magnetic switch Marche
-Heading and vertical reference system control switch GM
-CABINE: Master valve control switch 

//left console
-Servo reset 
-Close and lock canopy
-Check all warning/caution lights extinguished

//center console
-Standby AI uncage and set
-SOURIS - Shock cone button depressed
-Check your nosewheel steering as appropriate before taxi
-IFF SBY (standby) I guess, don't know if IFF works yet - set your Mode 3 above if desired and go to "N" later

//left console
-COM to Marche (Radio), presets only looks like
-Potentiometers up (audio for VOR, TAC, MISS I assume)
-COM (2?) to PAL (enter frequencies here manually or switch M to P to use presets)

//right console (OPTIONAL)
-VOR to Marche
-TACAN to REC or T/R
-VOR/TACAN selector as required
-Lights as required (right of idiot lights)

Where is eject seat arm?

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Maybe useful for someone. Or just go watch a RedKite video or follow the kneeboard checklist but this is what has gotten me going the quickest. Does NOT set you up for combat or navigation -- check your own instruments and configuration before take off, you're the pilot in command. Turn on your counter measures left of the HUD

-If you refuel on the ground, reset fuel to 4246 (?) liters max

slate nebula Jul 24, 2022, 1:10 AM

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What about the shock cone button RichelieuThink

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I don't know what it does but the checklist tells you to depress it

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 1:12 AM

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Thanks. Adding to my list to check out.

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I've been surprised how far I've gotten into the F1 with so little review of videos or looking at the checklists. I looked at a checklist today and added a few items above I needed to extinguish lights, and then just checked out Redkite's video for A/G because I could not, for the life of me, find the darn reticle depression knob

slate nebula Jul 24, 2022, 1:15 AM

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slate nebula I don't know what it does but the checklist tells you to depress it

It sets the shock cones to automatic control

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 1:15 AM

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My concern with that shock cone button NOT being depressed would be compressor stalls

slate nebula Jul 24, 2022, 1:15 AM

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Which is pretty important

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 1:16 AM

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Probably only at transonic and supersonic, but yes

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Must be short for something

slate nebula Jul 24, 2022, 1:17 AM

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The shock-cones are literally called mice

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Don't ask me why

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 1:17 AM

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Oh, are they? Well that actually makes sense

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https://tenor.com/view/amr-badr-asterisk-amor-rn-kurben-gif-24580589

Tenor

indigo jay Jul 24, 2022, 2:49 AM

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Anyone know if IFF will be implemented in the future for the F1?

fluid turret Jul 24, 2022, 2:55 AM

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I know the F-1M will have it for sure EE should. Don’t know enough about the CE or BE on whether or not they ever had it.

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 2:59 AM

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I don't think the C or E had interrogators if that's the question

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 3:05 AM

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slate nebula The shock-cones are literally called mice

thank you oh great @tawny depot

slate nebula Jul 24, 2022, 3:06 AM

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Glowow

tawny depot Jul 24, 2022, 3:07 AM

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Moirage

fluid turret Jul 24, 2022, 3:07 AM

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Bruh

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 3:12 AM

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Geez, is there an easier way to reset the fuel quantity number?

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 3:26 AM

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slate nebula What about the shock cone button <:RichelieuThink:911039681968341032>

Thanks for noticing this. I added it to my flow earlier when you mentioned it. Testing it now, I'm not sure it's modeled. I didn't touch it and flew up to 53k ft at M1.2 and everything was A-ok

slate nebula Jul 24, 2022, 3:27 AM

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Cadence mentioned earlier that their engine would flame out at M1.4 every time so I thought about that

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Even if it's not modelled it's probably good to get into the habit of adjusting it

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 3:27 AM

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Maybe. I can try again and do a dive to 1.4 or higher

slate nebula Jul 24, 2022, 3:27 AM

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You might also be losing performance

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The optimal profile I found was to accelerate to Mach 1.1 or so at 30,000 feet, go into a shallow dive until you're past Mach 1.2 then slowly climb up to 30,000 while maintaining speed

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You should be able to continue accelerating and once you're past Mach 1.3 things will start getting really fast

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 3:29 AM

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gear drop overspeed test:

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hmmm, I broke my hsi (missing in my cold start flow)

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oh, I just need to turn it on and learn the modes

austere pewter Jul 24, 2022, 3:48 AM

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muted torrent I've been surprised how far I've gotten into the F1 with so little review of vid...

Do the Training missions.

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 3:48 AM

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austere pewter Do the Training missions.

lol good advice, really

austere pewter Jul 24, 2022, 3:48 AM

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sly yew Definitely will be using these, ty!

Awesome. Enjoy!

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 3:51 AM

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austere pewter Do the Training missions.

this plane is simple and old enough I haven't felt the need yet. Actually really enjoying the discovery journey

austere pewter Jul 24, 2022, 3:52 AM

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I do the Trainings bc I don't have the time or desire for that kind of discovery. Tell me how to blow things up and I'll be set.

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 3:53 AM

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austere pewter I do the Trainings bc I don't have the time or desire for that kind of discovery...

I usually do one or two trainings and take notes until I can repeat on my own instant action or custom mission. I've never done it like this before

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new module, my favorite thing is to immediately jump in it blind and see if I could "steal it" if I just found it on the ramp

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The manual has been helpful enough so far too

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 4:02 AM

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slate nebula Cadence mentioned earlier that their engine would flame out at M1.4 every time s...

I was able to reproduce this. So:

Souris depressed - you're good up to M2.2 until you compressor stall and/or destroy the engine.
Souris in manual and no monkeying with it - M1.4 will pop the engine.

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(I've never gone this fast before in DCS)

slate nebula Jul 24, 2022, 4:05 AM

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muted torrent I was able to reproduce this. So: 1) Souris depressed - you're good up to M2.2 u...

@red seal

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Mice are the solution for nyoom

fair ocean Jul 24, 2022, 4:56 AM

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muted torrent new module, my favorite thing is to immediately jump in it blind and see if I co...

I do the same. Here I managed to start it because of the similarities with the Mirage 2000C, fly and fire sidewinders. Then went back to do the training and dive into the nitty gritty aspects to hopefully become proficient

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 4:57 AM

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fair ocean I do the same. Here I managed to start it because of the similarities with the M...

I got farther than I thought but definitely because of M2000 familiarity for sure. Also glad I took french in high school

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 5:36 AM

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https://youtu.be/-QAWIK_RgV0

YouTube

DefenceTalk

Firepower: Mirage Fighter Jet

The elegant delta wing has become the hallmark of French jet fighters. Stop in at air bases around the world to see the finest in French aviation technology in action.

Military Channel

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Fun while washing dishes and not playing dcs. Third or fourth time I've watched this vid over the last year

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 6:14 AM

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Current test: Can I go supersonic with two wing tanks

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(I assume this is stupid but I need to know)

austere pewter Jul 24, 2022, 6:17 AM

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muted torrent https://youtu.be/-QAWIK_RgV0

tldr?

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 6:17 AM

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austere pewter tldr?

Dassault Mirage development from post ww2 to Rafale, but in 20 minutes with no detail and lots of excitement

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Mentions of F1 and M2000

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It's for eight year olds. Perfect for me

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huh. ALT2 caution light

slate nebula Jul 24, 2022, 6:20 AM

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Yes

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There's an envelope where your alternators can't get enough cooling and will fail

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However there also seems to be a bug where they'll fail even in proper parameters

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 6:23 AM

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Hmm. I'm at 340 kts indicated, 29k ft. Am I on the left dot or right dot?

slate nebula Jul 24, 2022, 6:24 AM

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Right dot

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You should be fine

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This is like a perfectly normal flight regime

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 6:24 AM

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🤔

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what's the x axis?

slate nebula Jul 24, 2022, 6:24 AM

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Airspeed

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 6:25 AM

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What are the curved lines?

slate nebula Jul 24, 2022, 6:25 AM

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Airspeed

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 6:25 AM

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🤔

slate nebula Jul 24, 2022, 6:25 AM

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You have mach on the top and IAS on the bottom

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 6:26 AM

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well, if I use IAS on the bottom, I'm left dot then, right? In the no no zone?

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~~curves aren't ~~IAS ~~TAS and x axis ~~TAS~~ IAS?~~

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oh god it's too late

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(in the evening)

slate nebula Jul 24, 2022, 6:28 AM

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You are here

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Approximately

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 6:29 AM

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I'm back to curves are indicated and x axis is true

slate nebula Jul 24, 2022, 6:30 AM

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slate nebula You are here

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 6:30 AM

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Yes

slate nebula Jul 24, 2022, 6:30 AM

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Makes sense

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?

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 6:30 AM

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Yes

slate nebula Jul 24, 2022, 6:30 AM

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So you should be fine, however you are not

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Which is a bug

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 6:32 AM

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Note: Two bags, after burner up to 35k ft and continuing, ~140 nm until dry

slate nebula Jul 24, 2022, 6:33 AM

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What speed?

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 6:33 AM

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I just broke mach 1.0 with two tanks in a shallow dive before dropping the tanks

slate nebula Jul 24, 2022, 6:34 AM

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If you dropped the tanks you can go up to Mach whatever and cross the map easily

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 6:34 AM

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130 nm probably better measurement

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I'm still in burner

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Darn it all. Just broke the engine at 2.1 indicated

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 7:35 AM

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austere pewter Do the Training missions.

Hmmm. Just did cold start training twice. It did not have me depress souris

austere pewter Jul 24, 2022, 7:40 AM

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it was in response to this

I could not, for the life of me, find the darn reticle depression knob

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you shouldn't have to press souris on cold start.

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 7:42 AM

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austere pewter you shouldn't have to press souris on cold start.

why is this? I didn't have it in my flow until Arctic pointed it out

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 7:42 AM

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austere pewter it was in response to this > I could not, for the life of me, find the darn reti...

I went to redkite to solve that problem 🙂

austere pewter Jul 24, 2022, 7:43 AM

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muted torrent why is this? I didn't have it in my flow until Arctic pointed it out

nvm.

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its on the checklist in the manual

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 7:43 AM

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and on kneeboard checklist

austere pewter Jul 24, 2022, 7:44 AM

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which is the same one as the manual

red seal Jul 24, 2022, 8:43 AM

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They probably should've included it in the cold start tutorial seen as not pressing it has quite dramatic consequences!

austere pewter Jul 24, 2022, 10:00 AM

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what are the consequences?

frail ore Jul 24, 2022, 2:16 PM

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Hey, quick question, how do you go from a-a to a-g, cause just clicking on the bomb buttons doesn't do it for me

slate nebula Jul 24, 2022, 2:17 PM

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Make sure R mode is disengaged and the other air-to-air weapons are not selected

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And that's it, really

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And of course master arm on

frail ore Jul 24, 2022, 2:17 PM

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slate nebula Make sure R mode is disengaged and the other air-to-air weapons are not selected

Yeah, this is the issue, thanks!

heavy viper Jul 24, 2022, 3:02 PM

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Has anyone been able to replenish the braking chute?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/922525256797782061/1000778521267949588/unknown.png
I tried rearming three times (with different loadouts) they are successful, bar the chute.
Tried to ask Ground for repair, it cannot because the plane has no damage.

fair ocean Jul 24, 2022, 3:28 PM

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I haven't either

lament snow Jul 24, 2022, 4:32 PM

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heavy viper Has anyone been able to replenish the braking chute? https://cdn.discordapp.com/...

Seems like you can't at the moment. I just refrain form using it unless needed, for now.

odd stone Jul 24, 2022, 4:42 PM

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MMJ from DCSFin observed the Aerges checklists and found them to be unfit for that purpose so he condensed a proper checklist from the F1CZ manual https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807582205030170674/1000767612722090004/Mirage_F1_CE_quickstart_checklist.zip

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 5:26 PM

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austere pewter what are the consequences?

engine sad at M1.4 instead of M2.1

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 5:26 PM

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odd stone MMJ from DCSFin observed the Aerges checklists and found them to be unfit for th...

I started drawing this exact diagram yesterday

fluid turret Jul 24, 2022, 6:20 PM

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So How the fuck are you supposed to get the ir 530 to lock and fire.
The manual doesn’t show any special steps for employing them.

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Nvm think I figured it out

fluid turret Jul 24, 2022, 6:43 PM

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God these things are fuckin annoying when they lock kek

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Literally just

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https://tenor.com/view/reee-pepe-frog-angry-angery-gif-18421495

Tenor

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 7:36 PM

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fluid turret So How the fuck are you supposed to get the ir 530 to lock and fire. The manual ...

I got as far as just lining up like a boresight shot and got a different tone than M/SW. Is there a way to slave heater seekers to radar targets? I assume not

fluid turret Jul 24, 2022, 8:28 PM

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muted torrent I got as far as just lining up like a boresight shot and got a different tone th...

No radar lock with them basically is to just guide you in. You don’t have a lock till its starts to skree.

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 8:28 PM

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Cool. That’s what I figured

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 9:31 PM

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Bug: selecting any missile seems to set heading tape on hud to 0 (360 north) regardless of actual heading. At least it better be a bug. Thanks @red seal

red seal Jul 24, 2022, 9:36 PM

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Anyone figured out a way to adjust the intensity of the armament control panel? Just selected a weapon on a night flight and now I'm permanently blinded

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 9:39 PM

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red seal Anyone figured out a way to adjust the intensity of the armament control panel? ...

Nope. Agreed, it's horrible. Do these do anything?

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red seal Jul 24, 2022, 9:39 PM

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Not as far as I can tell

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 9:40 PM

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same

fair ocean Jul 24, 2022, 9:42 PM

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I thought they were radar brightness?

red seal Jul 24, 2022, 9:42 PM

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Since we're making a list, anyone noticed that sometimes the ejection seat safety pin is invisible?

red seal Jul 24, 2022, 9:43 PM

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fair ocean I thought they were radar brightness?

Yeah they seem to have no effect on that either

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 9:46 PM

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I keep frying alternator 2 somehow

open pasture Jul 24, 2022, 9:53 PM

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same honestly

chrome oasis Jul 24, 2022, 9:55 PM

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Hey fellas, does anyone know why my throttle controls nose wheel steering? I can’t accelerate without turning violently off the runway.

fair ocean Jul 24, 2022, 10:03 PM

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How are the bindings?

muted torrent Jul 24, 2022, 10:05 PM

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chrome oasis Hey fellas, does anyone know why my throttle controls nose wheel steering? I can...

Sounds like you have throttle also bound to rudder

austere pewter Jul 24, 2022, 10:26 PM

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Or brakes. An embarrassingly significant number of hours were spent with one throttle bound to right brakes.

winter anvil Jul 24, 2022, 11:22 PM

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muted torrent Bug: selecting any missile seems to set heading tape on hud to 0 (360 north) reg...

I've seen some reports that the heading tape also doubles as a range indicator in some situations

stuck wadi Jul 25, 2022, 12:37 AM

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So does the autopilot in the F1 work? I bound the keys but nothing happens

winter anvil Jul 25, 2022, 12:38 AM

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you need to hold the stick button while pressing the main PA button to turn it on

stuck wadi Jul 25, 2022, 12:43 AM

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Just tried it, but nope

winter anvil Jul 25, 2022, 12:43 AM

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either you were holding the wrong stick button, or something is mis-configured in your plane

stuck wadi Jul 25, 2022, 12:44 AM

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Maybe since I'm on a training mission

glass depot Jul 25, 2022, 12:54 AM

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By default, you hold down A on the keyboard while clicking on the autopilot power button

stuck wadi Jul 25, 2022, 1:00 AM

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Got it now

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The order matters. First is disengage and then PA

muted torrent Jul 25, 2022, 2:30 AM

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winter anvil I've seen some reports that the heading tape also doubles as a range indicator i...

I couldn’t get anything other than 0 to display with missile selection and locking targets [shrug]

austere pewter Jul 25, 2022, 2:37 AM

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Does anyone know what best rate and radius are?

austere pewter Jul 25, 2022, 12:25 PM

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Is JTAC available?

winter anvil Jul 25, 2022, 1:37 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/hoggit/comments/w7gso7/f1s_durandal_bombs_hilariously_op/

r/hoggit - F1's Durandal bombs hilariously OP?

254 votes and 48 comments so far on Reddit

▶ Play video

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catthinking

fair ocean Jul 25, 2022, 1:43 PM

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mini nukes

slate nebula Jul 25, 2022, 1:44 PM

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I wonder if they use whatever the S-25O has RichelieuThink

austere pewter Jul 25, 2022, 1:46 PM

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I dropped a stick on kobuleti X and got about 40 kills.

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They didn't even hit the runway 😆

odd stone Jul 25, 2022, 1:46 PM

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how tall is the explosion?

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like, can you nuke friendly planes with it?

austere pewter Jul 25, 2022, 1:47 PM

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I get a self hit thud at 350ft active pause.

winter anvil Jul 25, 2022, 1:54 PM

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apparently similar things happens with some of the other bombs from both mirages as well

slate nebula Jul 25, 2022, 2:44 PM

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I wonder if we can use them to isolate the S-25-O effect

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RichelieuThink

winter anvil Jul 25, 2022, 2:50 PM

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it also sounds like ED has changed how the ground dampens explosions, which might be related

austere pewter Jul 25, 2022, 2:54 PM

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"dampens explosions" . How so?

winter anvil Jul 25, 2022, 3:01 PM

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austere pewter "dampens explosions" . How so?

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoggit/comments/w7gso7/comment/ihjxn5k/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

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there's an ED forum thread linked in that linked comment with more info

austere pewter Jul 25, 2022, 3:06 PM

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Interesting ty.

sterile wolf Jul 25, 2022, 6:50 PM

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Just checking, the F1 IFF transponder doesn't work with GCIs, right?

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Docs say it's not simulated but is there SRS magic that happens?

winter anvil Jul 25, 2022, 7:16 PM

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sterile wolf Docs say it's not simulated but is there SRS magic that happens?

not currently, but I think SRS have been looking into adding support

austere pewter Jul 26, 2022, 1:08 AM

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I have converted a number of missions for MF1 use. What is the the best distribution method for users? The plan is to and more missions over time.

Release them each on Ed user files?
Make a single user files pack and update the pack?
Host on GitHub?
Host on Dropbox/google drive

muted torrent Jul 26, 2022, 1:17 AM

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I vote pack on ED user files and update. But I’m only kininja

austere pewter Jul 26, 2022, 1:21 AM

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What means you have to download all of the missions when one is added to play that one.

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Hmm. Option 5: user files pack with parallel git releases for the added mission.

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Option 6: user files pack that contains the collection of individual user file releases.

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Concerns:

I don’t want to flood user files
I don’t want to have ppl redownload missions they already have
I want it to be easy to download everything at once

sly yew Jul 26, 2022, 2:32 AM

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Anyone know if the F1M will have CCIP?

slate nebula Jul 26, 2022, 3:03 AM

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It should have CCIP and CCRP, yes

fluid turret Jul 26, 2022, 3:44 AM

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What y’all don’t like adjust the depression dial kek

slate nebula Jul 26, 2022, 3:47 AM

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I'm fine with manual bombing but how slow the dials are in this module gives me a headache

fair ocean Jul 26, 2022, 3:53 AM

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The cap knob and fuel totalizer are pain

slate nebula Jul 26, 2022, 3:58 AM

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Yeptune

fluid turret Jul 26, 2022, 4:07 AM

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You know for the 530 ir supposed to being “all aspect” it fucking sucks. Like I have to be like twice as close to start getting a lock as compared to the magics.

slate nebula Jul 26, 2022, 4:08 AM

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It's not all aspect in the slightest

fluid turret Jul 26, 2022, 4:08 AM

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Manual says limited all aspect kek

muted torrent Jul 26, 2022, 4:08 AM

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austere pewter Hmm. Option 5: user files pack with parallel git releases for the added mission.

~~Technically this makes the most sense.~~ But will the target audience understand how to git?

slate nebula Jul 26, 2022, 4:08 AM

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Well, in reality allegedly had some all aspect capabilities

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In DCS it really doesn't

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Just use the radar ones

austere pewter Jul 26, 2022, 4:13 AM

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muted torrent ~~Technically this makes the most sense.~~ But will the target audience understa...

TLDR; no
I was considering making dated releases with the source files being the individual miz files so ppl would see that there are multiple so they could click individual ones. Then there would also be a file named ALL-MISSIONS.

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And most importantly, in the Ed user files, link only the most direct recent releases page.

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Oh, and a forum thread for ppl to get notified of updates.

winter anvil Jul 26, 2022, 4:16 AM

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Problem with git is that it really doesn't do well with binary files
So for miz files I'd probably suggest looking for something else

austere pewter Jul 26, 2022, 4:16 AM

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Why don’t they do well?

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And what’s the result?

winter anvil Jul 26, 2022, 4:19 AM

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Git is optimised for text files

austere pewter Jul 26, 2022, 4:22 AM

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Does this optimization effect ~~ a downloader~~ ppl downloading in any way?

winter anvil Jul 26, 2022, 4:23 AM

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Not really

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I suppose it really comes down to if you plan to make changes to the files frequently

austere pewter Jul 26, 2022, 4:25 AM

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No, I do not. Once a mission is made, it goes posted and unchanged unless there’s an error in the mission.

winter anvil Jul 26, 2022, 4:27 AM

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The place git mostly struggles is with large and/or frequently changing binary files

austere pewter Jul 26, 2022, 4:27 AM

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What are the effects of struggle?

winter anvil Jul 26, 2022, 4:28 AM

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Mostly because you'll end up with bloat from multiple copies/versions of the files (though git will try to compress if possible)

muted torrent Jul 26, 2022, 4:37 AM

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Hmm, so a Drive or Dropbox shared folder then?

austere pewter Jul 26, 2022, 5:09 AM

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Neither of which I have the personal desire to fund/maintain.

muted torrent Jul 26, 2022, 5:34 AM

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So we're back to pack or single files on ED?

austere pewter Jul 26, 2022, 5:38 AM

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Just discussing at the moment. Nothing in stone.

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Eg, if I said no to hosting but someone paid for the costs, it wouldn’t be an issue.

lament snow Jul 26, 2022, 4:51 PM

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slate nebula I'm fine with manual bombing but how slow the dials are in this module gives me ...

Try click and dragging but not fast. If you drag super fast it takes a long time, but I'd you go slowly it skips through hundreds of Kg of fuel per drag

slate nebula Jul 26, 2022, 4:52 PM

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u47Think

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I'll try

lament snow Jul 26, 2022, 4:53 PM

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Thank me later greatstory

quaint trellis Jul 26, 2022, 5:24 PM

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Slow and steady

red seal Jul 26, 2022, 6:29 PM

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it still takes far too long but it means you dont have to keep releasing and clicking again

muted torrent Jul 26, 2022, 6:49 PM

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fair ocean The cap knob and fuel totalizer are pain

I don't even bother on the fuel totalizer

brittle inlet Jul 26, 2022, 10:40 PM

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Keep getting alternator failures when cruising. 25k feet at 406kt IAS and still get failures. That should be well within acceptable ranges for cooling. Very odd trying to figure out how this thing wants me to fly it.

winter anvil Jul 26, 2022, 10:45 PM

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brittle inlet Keep getting alternator failures when cruising. 25k feet at 406kt IAS and still ...

lots of people seem to be reporting alternators failing above 20k at speeds where they should be fine

brittle inlet Jul 26, 2022, 10:45 PM

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Well at least I am not alone

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Doesn't much help my busted electrical system xD

muted torrent Jul 26, 2022, 10:49 PM

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brittle inlet Doesn't much help my busted electrical system xD

one alternator or both? I've only lost alt 2 and didn't notice a loss of capabilities

brittle inlet Jul 26, 2022, 10:49 PM

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Well both will fail evetually

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failure cascades

muted torrent Jul 26, 2022, 10:49 PM

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Ah. I need to do a longer flight then

brittle inlet Jul 26, 2022, 10:49 PM

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I may just adopt the plan of Mach 2 to the target instead of cruising, fuel be damned

muted torrent Jul 26, 2022, 10:56 PM

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It's a lot of fun. I've broken my engine twice at M2.1 somehow

brittle inlet Jul 26, 2022, 11:05 PM

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I mean that is expected, engine with fail just above mach 2.2

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And you have to be careful with it when it is in overspeed (8900 RPM)

muted torrent Jul 26, 2022, 11:06 PM

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Yeah, but I couldn't get an indicated 2.2, at least I think

brittle inlet Jul 26, 2022, 11:06 PM

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I hit 1280kt TAS when I hit engine failure

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which is pretty much exactly when it is supposed to fail

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which was just about 2.2 indicated

winter anvil Jul 26, 2022, 11:13 PM

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muted torrent one alternator or both? I've only lost alt 2 and didn't notice a loss of capabil...

Most reports have had alt 2 go after 20-30 or so minutes, and alt 1 fail maybe 10-15 minutes later

odd stone Jul 26, 2022, 11:14 PM

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The supersonic climb profile in the kneeboard does not work. After reaching 30kft I can start to slowly accelerate but the engine ragequits way before I can reach that 610 kts, at 1.2 mach or so 🤔

muted torrent Jul 26, 2022, 11:15 PM

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odd stone The supersonic climb profile in the kneeboard does not work. After reaching 30kf...

souris depressed? Pitch over a little past 1.1 and push past 1.2, then start climbing again once you're accelerating

brittle inlet Jul 26, 2022, 11:15 PM

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Acceleration between mach 1.2 and like mach 1.4 takes ages

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Then it shoots up like a rocket

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when it hits overspeed

odd stone Jul 26, 2022, 11:16 PM

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muted torrent souris depressed? Pitch over a little past 1.1 and push past 1.2, then start cli...

will retry, the knob position is kinda hard to see

muted torrent Jul 26, 2022, 11:16 PM

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odd stone will retry, the knob position is kinda hard to see

yeah, those black controls are kind of like a blackhole. Souris is NOT depressed on cold start but is on air start

brittle inlet Jul 26, 2022, 11:17 PM

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You will sit here for a while

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but you are still accelerating

muted torrent Jul 26, 2022, 11:18 PM

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brittle inlet You will sit here for a while

unless pitch over a little, like half a gee

brittle inlet Jul 26, 2022, 11:19 PM

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Then you hit that juicy overspeed

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Then the alarms go off at mach 2

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then your engine dies at about 2.2

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So you probably should respect the alarms when they go off

austere pewter Jul 26, 2022, 11:25 PM

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Is an workaround for the alternators to not fly above 20k?

south pulsar Jul 26, 2022, 11:31 PM

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could someone post a screenshot from the MF1 special options window ?

brittle inlet Jul 26, 2022, 11:38 PM

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Interestingly the Mirage altimeter can't read higher than 65615 feet apparently

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At least mine stopped increasing there sharply

fair ocean Jul 27, 2022, 12:15 AM

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Might be hard to measure air that thin

brittle inlet Jul 27, 2022, 12:45 AM

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I mean that is like 15000 feet above the rated service ceiling so it isn't really a problem

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50k foot ceiling on the aircraft

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You can only actually get that high in a zoom climb

red seal Jul 27, 2022, 8:01 AM

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austere pewter Is an workaround for the alternators to not fly above 20k?

Could be, because I mostly fly on the deck and have never had the alternator bug kek

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Btw is there a gauge that measures TAS in the cockpit?

austere pewter Jul 27, 2022, 8:09 AM

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Relative true airspeed in the cockpit should be 0 at all times unless you roll the windows down 🥁
No

red seal Jul 27, 2022, 8:13 AM

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Obviously I need to crack the canopy to smoke my gauloises

austere pewter Jul 27, 2022, 8:54 AM

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austere pewter Oh, and a forum thread for ppl to get notified of updates.

what the... when did github allow download of individual files?

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huh, its only for certain files...... and one of them is miz?!?!

winter anvil Jul 27, 2022, 9:08 AM

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austere pewter huh, its only for certain files...... and one of them is miz?!?!

could be for non-text files?

austere pewter Jul 27, 2022, 9:08 AM

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it seems so. this completely solves some of my concerns.

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winter anvil Jul 27, 2022, 9:10 AM

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it did also occur to me that you could perhaps "abuse" the release function to do what you're thinking of doing

austere pewter Jul 27, 2022, 9:11 AM

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how so?

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I was thinking of releasing and adding every mission as its own file

winter anvil Jul 27, 2022, 9:13 AM

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well, it's more intended for uploading precompiled binaries etc...

austere pewter Jul 27, 2022, 9:14 AM

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yes, thats where the abuse of the system comes in.

odd stone Jul 27, 2022, 9:16 AM

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winter anvil it did also occur to me that you could perhaps "abuse" the release function to d...

Is the CI/CD pipeline in Github free? you could write scripts to automatically create archives of relevant files

austere pewter Jul 27, 2022, 9:23 AM

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wow. I think i can add the direct link too...
test success

winter anvil Jul 27, 2022, 9:23 AM

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works

austere pewter Jul 27, 2022, 9:23 AM

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ty

winter anvil Jul 27, 2022, 9:23 AM

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also, if you look at the link, "download" for non-text files is exactly the same as "raw" for text files on github

austere pewter Jul 27, 2022, 9:24 AM

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interesting

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Released https://forum.dcs.world/topic/305755-baileys-mirage-f1-mission-library/

ED Forums

Bailey's Mirage F1 Mission Library

More missions you can enjoy with the Mirage F1. I have modified missions already in the game and replaced the player aircraft with the Mirage F1. All have been tested and are good to fly. Feel free to submit more missions via GitHub or this thread. Enjoy! https://github.com/asherao/MirageF1Librar...

fair ocean Jul 27, 2022, 10:58 AM

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Oh sweet. Missions for me to finally practice AG

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Ty

austere pewter Jul 27, 2022, 11:07 AM

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check again in 5 hrs. there will be more

winter anvil Jul 27, 2022, 2:46 PM

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CATastrophe

red seal Jul 27, 2022, 3:05 PM

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Man I'm glad nobody uses wake turbulence online :/

winter anvil Jul 27, 2022, 3:20 PM

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yeah, according to that thread wake turbulence is just completely broken on the F1

brittle inlet Jul 27, 2022, 3:48 PM

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I mean the engine does spin down when you launch to prevent that exact problem

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So that probably shouldn't be happening

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Same when you fire guns

winter anvil Jul 27, 2022, 3:49 PM

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Engine stall or shut off happens not only when you take off after an other plane, but even waiting on taxiway holding point with an other plane landing passing by in front of you (so 90° off your longitudinal axis).

In flight when you cross an other plane's wake turbulence (during dogfight or terrain following) your plane can explode in flight in some cases.

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(from that same bug-report thread the screenshot is from)

brittle inlet Jul 27, 2022, 3:50 PM

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Yeah it seems overly sensitive

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I've never seen explode in flight happen though

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Just engine stalls

slate nebula Jul 27, 2022, 4:51 PM

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There's a fuel dipper switch that throttles down the engine so this theoretically won't happen

south pulsar Jul 27, 2022, 5:19 PM

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does the f1 has a fox 2 uncage button to give lead ?

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like the F5

muted torrent Jul 27, 2022, 5:46 PM

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I don't think so. If it does, I haven't found it

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Does the ejection seat have to be armed?

winter anvil Jul 27, 2022, 5:50 PM

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yes

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there's a pin by the handle nest the bottom

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(currently bugged and will be hidden if you remove the radar screen shield)

muted torrent Jul 27, 2022, 5:51 PM

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Thanks. I am missing that from my [personal] startup flow

muted torrent Jul 27, 2022, 5:53 PM

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winter anvil (currently bugged and will be hidden if you remove the radar screen shield)

How do you remove the radar screen shield?

winter anvil Jul 27, 2022, 5:53 PM

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while stationary on the ground and canopy open, click the little bolt above the shield to toggle it on or off

muted torrent Jul 27, 2022, 5:54 PM

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Thank you

fair ocean Jul 27, 2022, 6:11 PM

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south pulsar does the f1 has a fox 2 uncage button to give lead ?

I think it's this one but don't recall the manual talking about it:

muted torrent Jul 27, 2022, 6:11 PM

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I haven't figured out how to use that yet

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(looking to learn!)

south pulsar Jul 27, 2022, 6:30 PM

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mmmmm

brittle inlet Jul 27, 2022, 9:02 PM

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winter anvil while stationary on the ground and canopy open, click the little bolt above the ...

Can also remove it at anytime with the keybind, but only clickable on the ground

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can not be put back in flight though even with the keybind

muted torrent Jul 27, 2022, 9:38 PM

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austere pewter Does anyone know what best rate and radius are?

We didn't figure this out yet, did we? Should I just load up tacview and start pulling gees?

muted torrent Jul 27, 2022, 10:06 PM

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From Hoggit sub to FL and back to Hoggit:

austere pewter Jul 27, 2022, 10:25 PM

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For fuel, can't you just look at your fuel indicator rotary for the total fuel remaining?

red seal Jul 27, 2022, 10:26 PM

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You have to have set it correctly in the first place but yeah

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Although I imagine it accrues some error

muted torrent Jul 27, 2022, 10:27 PM

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I set it once on refueling. I ran out of fuel by the time I got there (joking, but.... it was long enough to not want to even bother next time)

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I'd rather just use a stopwatch and glance at which tanks are empty

red seal Jul 27, 2022, 10:27 PM

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I set it, but it's painful how slow it turns

austere pewter Jul 27, 2022, 10:28 PM

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red seal You have to have set it correctly in the first place but yeah

Is it set correctly on spawn?

muted torrent Jul 27, 2022, 10:28 PM

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I think so, yes

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but if you refuel or add tanks, for example

red seal Jul 27, 2022, 10:29 PM

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Yeah it is, but you need to add 1200 for each bag, then reset it manually on refuelling

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There's no auto detot option like in the M2K

fair ocean Jul 27, 2022, 10:30 PM

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Sometimes feels easier for me to let it run past 0 and do the math on what's left by taking away from the the big number after

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Esp on the third sortie or so

fluid turret Jul 27, 2022, 10:38 PM

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muted torrent I haven't figured out how to use that yet

I’ve only found that it does anything in dogfight mode for adjusting the reticle for the gun. Have yet to see it unlock any missiles.

muted torrent Jul 27, 2022, 10:39 PM

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fluid turret I’ve only found that it does anything in dogfight mode for adjusting the reticle...

Ah, yes, I did find that functionality as well

austere pewter Jul 27, 2022, 10:40 PM

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!remindme 7 hours look into making a keybind and SD button for the fuel rotary set function

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/sigh

muted torrent Jul 27, 2022, 11:07 PM

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oh you're sighing that the remind me function didn't work here. I thought you were sighing about having to fix more stuff for the F1 @austere pewter

austere pewter Jul 27, 2022, 11:13 PM

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muted torrent oh you're sighing that the remind me function didn't work here. I thought you we...

Haha. Yes, the sigh is for the bot.

lament snow Jul 27, 2022, 11:27 PM

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Has anyone seen that you can detect and STT aircrafts with the radar on stby?

austere pewter Jul 27, 2022, 11:35 PM

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Yes

muted torrent Jul 27, 2022, 11:35 PM

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lament snow Has anyone seen that you can detect and STT aircrafts with the radar on stby?

hmm, sounds right. I was confused that the radar operation switch had two positions which both showed it searching

austere pewter Jul 28, 2022, 6:15 AM

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austere pewter !remindme 7 hours look into making a keybind and SD button for the fuel rotary s...

the best i could do was change the value by 1 on press and 1 on release .

austere pewter Jul 28, 2022, 7:19 AM

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muted torrent https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/794353408597426219/1000168278154551306/f1...

for telling how much fuel you have, you can just look at the guage, right?

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(unless it is above about 2.1k)

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also, you cant know how much fuel you have if you have fuel in drop tanks and the thumbwheel wasnt reset, correct?

red seal Jul 28, 2022, 7:30 AM

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austere pewter also, you cant know how much fuel you have if you have fuel in drop tanks *and* ...

Correct

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You have to wait for the tanks to empty

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When your external tank lights turn on you know you've got 4240L remaining

austere pewter Jul 28, 2022, 7:32 AM

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where did you get that info?

red seal Jul 28, 2022, 7:33 AM

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Either the manual or that kneeboard

austere pewter Jul 28, 2022, 7:33 AM

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im seeing 4230 from the graph.
ok

red seal Jul 28, 2022, 7:34 AM

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I dial 4200 as a "good enough"

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4200 internal, 5400 1 bag, 6600 2 bags

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easy to remember

austere pewter Jul 28, 2022, 7:36 AM

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4240 is the max internal in the manual, but the graph says 4230 is the transition. ok

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easy. ty. no need for graphology when there is a needle and 3 tanks.

red seal Jul 28, 2022, 7:37 AM

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I imagine the totaliser is based on the fuel consumed by the engine and will accrue inaccuracy as it doesn't account for trapped fuel

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the gauge is probably more accurate but only starts moving when you're half empty

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Unless I can't read the gauge

austere pewter Jul 28, 2022, 7:39 AM

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totalisers are typically via sensors in the fuel tank. I cant think of a system that knows how much fuel you have by consumption like that.

red seal Jul 28, 2022, 7:40 AM

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I thought that was how it worked on the M2K but I don't know why I think that

austere pewter Jul 28, 2022, 7:42 AM

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ok. thanks for the info. i thought i was going to have to do some crazy lua logic for the fuel values.

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red seal Jul 28, 2022, 8:50 AM

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Anyone post this yet? https://forum.dcs.world/topic/233848-patch-status/?do=findComment&comment=5016891

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Patch Status

Stable Version Currently version number: DCS 2.7.14.24228 Next update: To be announced - Open Beta Public testing build Currently version number: DCS 2.7.16.27869 Next update: Planned 28th July 2022 Thank you

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Hopefully we get a few F1 fixes

south pulsar Jul 28, 2022, 10:54 AM

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I just want better keybinds 🙏

south pulsar Jul 28, 2022, 11:09 AM

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pain

red seal Jul 28, 2022, 11:24 AM

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I want volume controls that work

red seal Jul 28, 2022, 11:28 AM

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south pulsar

https://tenor.com/bxHfG.gif

Tenor

odd stone Jul 28, 2022, 12:37 PM

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I like to bump blacks by 8 % in OpenXR toolkit settings instead

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That way nights are manageable and days won't be overly bright

south pulsar Jul 28, 2022, 1:37 PM

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@odd stone I did that because of the cockpit being so dark can barely tell the switches apart sometimes

fair ocean Jul 28, 2022, 1:40 PM

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Did not know that the shock cones are modelled to move when set to auto

humble relic Jul 28, 2022, 2:41 PM

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chonky F1 patch released

fair ocean Jul 28, 2022, 2:49 PM

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busy week I bet

austere pewter Jul 28, 2022, 2:50 PM

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Virpil CM3 w/ push through detent at around 89 for me.

south pulsar Jul 28, 2022, 2:50 PM

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based

slate nebula Jul 28, 2022, 2:51 PM

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No alternator fix though MonarchSad

brittle inlet Jul 28, 2022, 2:56 PM

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Likely needs more time to identify specific issue

south pulsar Jul 28, 2022, 3:06 PM

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I feel like this moved faster when holding the radar elevation increase/decrease before

brittle inlet Jul 28, 2022, 3:10 PM

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no E always moved super slow

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D moves fast

south pulsar Jul 28, 2022, 3:24 PM

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@brittle inlet how do u change between ?

brittle inlet Jul 28, 2022, 3:26 PM

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The ELEVATION/ALTITUDE DIFFERENCE BUTTON, which is by the radar range selector on the radar control stick

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south pulsar Jul 28, 2022, 3:29 PM

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thx

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so all this does is change how fast the elevation changes?

fair ocean Jul 28, 2022, 3:46 PM

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https://gfycat.com/impracticalshabbybunny

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brittle inlet Jul 28, 2022, 3:47 PM

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south pulsar so all this does is change how fast the elevation changes?

Pages 80-81 in the manual are all I can point you too

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but the manual is kind of crap

south pulsar Jul 28, 2022, 3:54 PM

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“Afterburner detent” tick was added on the throttle scale of Controls Indicator

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what do they mean ?

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I know about the AB detent slider in the special options but

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idk what they mean about this tick

winter anvil Jul 28, 2022, 3:55 PM

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on the controls indicator

south pulsar Jul 28, 2022, 3:55 PM

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oh the thing when u press right ctrl Enter

winter anvil Jul 28, 2022, 3:55 PM

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aka RCtrl + enter

winter anvil Jul 28, 2022, 3:59 PM

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south pulsar what do they mean ?

Here you go

south pulsar Jul 28, 2022, 4:00 PM

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👌

fair ocean Jul 28, 2022, 4:00 PM

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so glad to see the parachute glitch gone.

winter anvil Jul 28, 2022, 4:03 PM

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fair ocean so glad to see the parachute glitch gone.

the no-rearm one?

fair ocean Jul 28, 2022, 4:03 PM

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yh

indigo jay Jul 28, 2022, 6:20 PM

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Anyone else having trouble setting delayed fuses for the f1?

weak oriole Jul 28, 2022, 6:28 PM

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Followed RedKite's tutorial for rockets and no dice. Anyone have any insight into why my rockets aren't firing?

muted torrent Jul 28, 2022, 6:30 PM

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weak oriole Followed RedKite's tutorial for rockets and no dice. Anyone have any insight int...

do you have a mixed loadout with bombs too?

weak oriole Jul 28, 2022, 6:32 PM

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No. I have them on the outboards with 530s (already fired) on inboards. Outboard pylons selected, quant switch at CPC, master arm on, fuze set to instant, gun & rocket button illuminated

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nvm they magically work now

muted torrent Jul 28, 2022, 6:35 PM

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weak oriole nvm they magically work now

No idea what the fix was?

weak oriole Jul 28, 2022, 6:35 PM

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nope

brittle inlet Jul 28, 2022, 7:15 PM

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weak oriole No. I have them on the outboards with 530s (already fired) on inboards. Outboard...

You need to to flip your trigger cover, by defualt it is set to do so on first press and fire on the second. This is new on this patch

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Gun Firing trigger

muted torrent Jul 28, 2022, 7:19 PM

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A ha

weak oriole Jul 29, 2022, 1:13 AM

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brittle inlet You need to to flip your trigger cover, by defualt it is set to do so on first p...

Ah ok, thank you

red seal Jul 29, 2022, 8:21 AM

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brittle inlet You need to to flip your trigger cover, by defualt it is set to do so on first p...

Does that apply even with simplified trigger? I haven't noticed it for 530s

brittle inlet Jul 29, 2022, 12:04 PM

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I think so, the simplified adds the behavior of hitting it ince opening it iirc

fluid turret Jul 29, 2022, 5:58 PM

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Hmmm did the update change any bindings? Or did it just make the existing ones work properly?

red seal Jul 29, 2022, 6:21 PM

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Yes and Yes

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They fixed a lot of the binds that didn't work properly and in the process they unbound a lot of your controls

fluid turret Jul 29, 2022, 6:44 PM

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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

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It’s cool I’ll just spend another night figuring out shit again kek

brittle inlet Jul 29, 2022, 6:57 PM

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It honestly was mostly just radar controls

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which were broken anyway

south pulsar Jul 30, 2022, 1:29 AM

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I just had radar related stuff unbound @fluid turret

fluid turret Jul 30, 2022, 1:46 AM

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south pulsar I just had radar related stuff unbound <@311293997790265345>

Thank god kek

red seal Jul 30, 2022, 7:56 AM

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Strangely it also unbound the radar stick, one of the few radar controls that was actually working

low musk Jul 30, 2022, 10:46 AM

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Fukkkkkkkkkkk

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The F1 so hard to turn

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AT 200-300 Knots seems stall

south pulsar Jul 30, 2022, 10:52 AM

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maybe combat flaps help?

slate nebula Jul 30, 2022, 11:01 AM

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Yeah, use combat flaps below 300 knots

humble relic Jul 30, 2022, 12:37 PM

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french fishbed DunktsukiStare

fluid turret Jul 30, 2022, 3:50 PM

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Le Lit de poisson

ebon mesa Jul 31, 2022, 7:19 PM

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I couldn't find this info anywhere, so I'll ask here. Does anyone know how to change the laser code on the GBU's besides mission editor in the F-1? Is it even possible?

slate nebula Jul 31, 2022, 7:20 PM

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Not possible AFAIK

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I asked them to add an option for it in the kneeboard ErikaShrug

ebon mesa Jul 31, 2022, 7:23 PM

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thank you

austere pewter Aug 2, 2022, 2:32 PM

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F1 wip list
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/253872-mirage-f1-project-update/page/51/#comment-5020721

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Mirage F1 project update

fair ocean Aug 2, 2022, 3:28 PM

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I am still wondering what the other two AP modes are for

austere pewter Aug 2, 2022, 3:30 PM

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G for Glideslope. R for Runway localizer.

fair ocean Aug 2, 2022, 5:22 PM

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Oh neat!

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I fully expect it to land my plane in bad weather now

odd stone Aug 2, 2022, 5:55 PM

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Currently the G mode tries to lawndart you

loud fulcrum Aug 4, 2022, 1:42 PM

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Just here to brag;
I did the quick and dirty startup and get airborne with the F1. Figured out enough buttons to get weapons off the wings. Had ZERO knowledge of a good dive angle or speed or anything, and still managed to put rockets on target, first try

fair ocean Aug 4, 2022, 1:43 PM

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beautiful

austere pewter Aug 4, 2022, 1:44 PM

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loud fulcrum Just here to brag; I did the quick and dirty startup and get airborne with the F...

a natural. nice job!

loud fulcrum Aug 4, 2022, 1:45 PM

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#AllSkillNoLuck

low musk Aug 5, 2022, 7:29 AM

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slate nebula Yeah, use combat flaps below 300 knots

ok.flaps middle,then jammed

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🥲

low musk Aug 5, 2022, 7:30 AM

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humble relic french fishbed <:DunktsukiStare:661087783619788812>

No,worth than fishbed.So hard to beat fishbed or another jet in dogfighting.I don't know its my problem or this jet

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So hard to control in dogfight,can't turn.Rudder and joystick all not working.Like a idiot stuck in the air

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200-300 knots Flaps middle and then Jammed.Turn rates seems not change

red seal Aug 5, 2022, 7:37 AM

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low musk ok.flaps middle,then jammed

Flaps middle != combat flaps

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Combat flaps has its own controls on the throttle handle

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With the combat flaps button pressed the flaps will open and close automatically as appropriate throughout the maneuvering envelope

low musk Aug 5, 2022, 7:48 AM

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?

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I saw the Flaps middle show combat flaps

low musk Aug 5, 2022, 7:49 AM

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red seal Combat flaps has its own controls on the throttle handle

I will try latter.

red seal Aug 5, 2022, 7:50 AM

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Setting flaps to the middle position will just force them to that position and they'll jam if you leave the envelope

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Combat flaps lets the plane open and close them itself

low musk Aug 5, 2022, 7:54 AM

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thx

low musk Aug 5, 2022, 9:07 AM

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Is there a full guide to setup the keybinds?

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Like throttle,seems there are multi positions ?

muted torrent Aug 5, 2022, 5:16 PM

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We have the bindings discussion in this topic. Multiple positions for the throttle? Do you man where the afterburner engages?

stuck wadi Aug 6, 2022, 5:30 AM

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So, what are everyone's favorite rocket and bomb solutions/release methods? I hope I'm not the only one that can't learn all the tables and just pick one to use

austere pewter Aug 6, 2022, 9:22 AM

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stuck wadi So, what are everyone's favorite rocket and bomb solutions/release methods? I ho...

I have the tables for reference. No need to memorize. I have them on my kneeboard, on the StreamDeck, and a calculator on the SD too. I pick what is the most reasonable for the threat.

slate nebula Aug 6, 2022, 10:05 AM

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I usually go with the 20 degree, 3,000 feet, 500 knots profile for the SAMPs and it works quite well

stuck wadi Aug 7, 2022, 12:40 AM

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austere pewter I have the tables for reference. No need to memorize. I have them on my kneeboar...

Wish I had more chameleon DNA to focus on more than the sight and my speed and altitude but even if I had them somewhere else that'd be my phone and it's a bit small

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Also, is it just me or is the warning horn especially loud? Any way to decrease that volume?

austere pewter Aug 7, 2022, 12:59 AM

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stuck wadi Wish I had more chameleon DNA to focus on more than the sight and my speed and a...

Yea, it's tough. Takes practice. I enable infinite ammo for that. You can have it on your ingame kneeboard. It's already there.

brittle inlet Aug 7, 2022, 1:01 AM

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I think all the volume controls don't work atm

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so probably coming later

austere pewter Aug 7, 2022, 1:05 AM

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Sounds like a good mod...

austere pewter Aug 7, 2022, 3:40 AM

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austere pewter Sounds like a good mod...

Aircrafts/Mirage-F1/Cockpit/Warnings/Fire_and_Failure.sdef
    wave:
        Effects/Aircrafts/Mirage-F1/Cockpit/Warnings/Fire_and_Failure

stuck wadi Aug 8, 2022, 1:04 AM

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Is that a file we can modify?

austere pewter Aug 8, 2022, 2:28 AM

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stuck wadi Is that a file we can modify?

It’s the identifier info for the mod. Read more and how to do it in Dcs/docs/sounds

fluid turret Aug 8, 2022, 6:06 PM

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Had a wierd bug in the F-1 last night. Was starting up and my gyro was glitched out as my gauges were all crooked. I started playing with the little flapper switch thing on the horizon gauge and then the plane just blew up.

fluid turret Aug 10, 2022, 2:13 AM

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Anyone got a good throttle curve for the CM3? For whatever reason I can’t seem to make mine feel quite right.

brittle inlet Aug 10, 2022, 2:16 AM

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What doesn't feel right?

fluid turret Aug 10, 2022, 2:18 AM

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I have to move my throttle like 33% before the plane will even move on the ground. And the afterburner just feels like it’s kicking in at a wierd spot.
I try to adjust for low speed and it pulls the afterburner engage point with it.

austere pewter Aug 10, 2022, 2:18 AM

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fluid turret Anyone got a good throttle curve for the CM3? For whatever reason I can’t seem t...

Use the special option in the module to move the detent.

brittle inlet Aug 10, 2022, 2:19 AM

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I don't really run a curve, but i have AB set for 71% and run with detents set up in Virpil config

austere pewter Aug 10, 2022, 2:19 AM

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austere pewter Use the special option in the module to move the detent.

Iirc 89% does the trick for me. No curves. Push through detent. Max distance.

brittle inlet Aug 10, 2022, 2:20 AM

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I use lift detents hence the deadzones for detents

fluid turret Aug 10, 2022, 2:21 AM

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Yeah all I got is whatever small dip detent the throttle came with attached. I’d be nice to have it match that though I’m not sure what percentage that is.

austere pewter Aug 10, 2022, 2:22 AM

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No one does. Play with it. Increase by 20, back off by 10, increase by 5, etc

brittle inlet Aug 10, 2022, 2:23 AM

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You can go into the virpil software and look at the Axis logical output at the detent

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and use that number

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if you don't want to setup detent stuff in it

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otherwise you can put detents at effectivly whatever % you want

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whatever feels correct

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Having the ability to set the afterburner % for the module is also so nice, I wish that was on more modules

fluid turret Aug 10, 2022, 2:25 AM

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That makes a little too much sense kek

austere pewter Aug 10, 2022, 2:26 AM

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brittle inlet Having the ability to set the afterburner % for the module is also so nice, I wi...

Iirc mirage does this. A4 also has a version of it.

fluid turret Aug 10, 2022, 2:26 AM

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Looks like it says mine is 93% so I guess I’ll try that.

fluid turret Aug 10, 2022, 2:37 AM

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brittle inlet You can go into the virpil software and look at the Axis logical output at the d...

Yeah that helped me set the detent exact first try. Thanks jamdawez

red seal Aug 10, 2022, 8:59 AM

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Will have to try taking off my custom curve and using this thing later

odd stone Aug 10, 2022, 2:30 PM

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I wish Eagly finally standardized the detent locations 😩

slate nebula Aug 10, 2022, 2:32 PM

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One of the Wags videos had a detent option in the axis setting

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But that has not been seen in the actual game yet

fair ocean Aug 10, 2022, 3:48 PM

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Hoarding all the cool stuff

fluid turret Aug 12, 2022, 4:13 AM

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Gotta say after flying this thing for a while it might actually benefit from larger maps. Way too easy to distracted and look of and have overshot the objective by 200 miles kek

muted torrent Aug 12, 2022, 4:38 AM

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It’s so much fun, huh

fluid turret Aug 12, 2022, 4:41 AM

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It just goes it’s stupid. Cross the map and I’ve maybe used half a tank.

fair ocean Aug 12, 2022, 5:03 AM

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Yup. Love it, trying that on the Mig-21 doesn't work nearly as well.

hard echo Aug 12, 2022, 9:54 PM

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Soo the CE has refuel probe on marianas > does it work ?

brittle inlet Aug 12, 2022, 9:55 PM

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CE shouldn't have a probe, refuel is on the EE

slate nebula Aug 12, 2022, 9:55 PM

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One of the liveries is bugged and uses the M model IIRC

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But no, it won't work

hard echo Aug 12, 2022, 9:56 PM

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slate nebula But no, it won't work

this was it lmao , thanks

brittle inlet Aug 12, 2022, 9:56 PM

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Will need to wait for the other varriants

fair ocean Aug 13, 2022, 4:28 PM

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Could I have a bit of help understanding user games folder structure for the Mirage liveries? They don't seem to show up, even when the same location and structure works for other modules

muted torrent Aug 13, 2022, 11:33 PM

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Have we figured out the rate speed yet?

winter anvil Aug 14, 2022, 1:29 AM

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fair ocean Could I have a bit of help understanding user games folder structure for the Mir...

for the saved games folder?

fluid turret Aug 16, 2022, 4:16 AM

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Gotta love the rwr on this thing. All 4 arrows lit red like 90% of the time get a missile launch alert and it’s basically like yeah good luck hombre kek

muted torrent Aug 16, 2022, 5:00 AM

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Hombre is an acceptable term for the jet to use for you.

red seal Aug 16, 2022, 7:44 AM

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The RWR is currently broken, it will get marginally better

brittle inlet Aug 16, 2022, 12:08 PM

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Current RWR is just "RADAR EVERYWHERE"

winter anvil Aug 24, 2022, 3:12 PM

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Added an option (Special Options menu) to automatically reset the countermeasures and fuel (detotalizer) counters upon rearm or refuel.

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catcheer

fluid turret Aug 24, 2022, 8:40 PM

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At last

winter anvil Aug 24, 2022, 8:41 PM

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oh and they also claim to have fixed the alternator bug

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but who cares about that, right?

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catsip

brittle inlet Aug 24, 2022, 11:21 PM

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They also broke the engine speed limit so you can go mach 1.8 on the deck without the engine exploding

slate nebula Aug 24, 2022, 11:29 PM

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Can you even get to that speed?

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RichelieuThink

brittle inlet Aug 25, 2022, 12:26 AM

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Yes

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And you can do it with a weapon load, though you will need to dive to overspeed

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Once in overspeed though you can maintain (and eventually exceed) that speed

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going faster though causes the plane to disintegrate

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This occurs at ~1215 IAS at sea level

slate nebula Aug 25, 2022, 1:02 AM

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Interesting

brittle inlet Aug 25, 2022, 1:04 AM

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I can't imagine this is correct behavior, but it is a bit funny to play with

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the plane will start buffeting hard at mach 1.1, but you can just ignore it and keep flying

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You will need to use F2 to measure speed as well since your instruments don't go past 800IAS, well the mach meter does but it lacks precision to not kill yourself

austere pewter Aug 25, 2022, 1:16 AM

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brittle inlet I can't imagine this is correct behavior, but it is a bit funny to play with

you do you imagine it isn't correct behavior?

brittle inlet Aug 25, 2022, 1:28 AM

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I assume that is why? Because all documentation I can find have maximum sea level speeds at an ABSOLUTE max at 794kt, with the manual giving save operational limits of 700kt. 1200kt is just SOOO much higher than those numbers, if it was capable of that something would indicate it somewhere.

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Pretty much the highest numbers you will find anywhere

grand goblet Aug 25, 2022, 6:54 AM

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does mirage f1 has iff in its mti?

slate nebula Aug 25, 2022, 8:05 AM

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This Mirage has neither IFF nor MTI

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bern

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(well, it has a transponder obviously, though that's irrelevant in DCS)

austere pewter Aug 25, 2022, 8:15 AM

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*Works in SRS

slate nebula Aug 25, 2022, 8:21 AM

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There's that, yeah

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If they implemented it

austere pewter Aug 25, 2022, 8:25 AM

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If it isnt in, it's getting worked on.

hollow drum Aug 25, 2022, 9:10 AM

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slate nebula This Mirage has neither IFF nor MTI

So if an aircraft attempts to interrogate an Mirage F1 contact it will return hostile?

winter anvil Aug 25, 2022, 9:28 AM

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DCS does not simulate IFF to that level

hollow drum Aug 25, 2022, 9:30 AM

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Hmmm.... so what actual effect would it have?

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In game, that is

slate nebula Aug 25, 2022, 9:43 AM

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Same as any other plane

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Friendly plane returns friendly, not friendly plane doesn't return

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It's a simple coalition check

brittle inlet Aug 25, 2022, 12:33 PM

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slate nebula This Mirage has neither IFF nor MTI

No it does have MTI, and an IFF transponder but no interrogator

slate nebula Aug 25, 2022, 12:34 PM

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There's no MTI on this one

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It was a feature of earlier the Cyrano IV-1 (or one of them) and it was completely worthless, this jet has Cyrano IVM and it doesn't have the low altitude mode listed at all

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There is some kind of "clutter attenuation device" but nobody seems to know what it actually does

brittle inlet Aug 25, 2022, 12:37 PM

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They did not remove the MTI from the radar O.o

slate nebula Aug 25, 2022, 12:37 PM

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Why wouldn't they?

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It was useless

brittle inlet Aug 25, 2022, 12:38 PM

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The the additional filtering is ontop of the MTI to improve lookdown

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How well that works irl is hard to get information on

slate nebula Aug 25, 2022, 12:40 PM

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The MTI mode on the earlier Cyranos was called "LA" and had very specific operating limitations

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It was only functional below something like 6,000 feet (IIRC?) and the scan volume depended on aircraft velocity (the faster you're moving the worse it is)

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There is no mode like that on this jet

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ErikaShrug

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We only have "High Altitude" and "Short Pulse"

brittle inlet Aug 25, 2022, 12:42 PM

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Because it was moved into automated opperations

slate nebula Aug 25, 2022, 12:42 PM

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You have a source for that?

brittle inlet Aug 25, 2022, 12:43 PM

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Somewhere yes if I can find it again

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Note that it is likely called Dopler Filtering in french documents

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not MTI

slate nebula Aug 25, 2022, 12:49 PM

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In French it's called "Élimination des Échos Fixes" which is about what it sounds. English manuals refer to it as a moving target indicator

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It's possible that other variants of the IVMs, for example used by other operators, had the low altitude mode by the way. Or maybe it is automatic but I don't think I've seen that mentioned anywhere. Considering how poorly the MTI mode on Cyrano IV worked it's hard for me to imagine all the limitations on it were suddenly worked out

brittle inlet Aug 25, 2022, 12:57 PM

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Oh the radar we have here is magic don't get me wrong

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But they didn't strip all lookdown from the radar

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It just should be very bad

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Attempts to visualize moving targets carried out on the CYRANO IVs, by working on the magnetron transmitter to improve its stability and by using coherent oscillators to copy and memorize the phase of the signals emitted at each recurrence, were not crowned with success. despite the efforts made.
As they say

slate nebula Aug 25, 2022, 1:01 PM

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Well, if you can find any reliable source that says this radar was fitted with MTI then I would be interesting in seeing that

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The Aerges manual certainly doesn't mention it

brittle inlet Aug 25, 2022, 1:02 PM

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Aerges manual doesn't mention a lot of things to be fair :(

low musk Aug 29, 2022, 11:58 AM

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Where is the boresight area of the AIM9 on the HUD?

slate nebula Aug 29, 2022, 11:59 AM

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It seems to be above the HUD frame for the JULIs

low musk Aug 29, 2022, 12:19 PM

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sometimes not working for AIM9

low musk Aug 29, 2022, 1:00 PM

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radar elevation 1 mean 1k ft or 10k ft?

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https://forum.dcs.world/topic/305939-radar-elevation-in-altitude-difference-bugged-doesnt-work-as-supposed/

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Radar elevation in altitude difference bugged / doesnt work as supp...

Hello. It seems that radar elevation in altitude mode is bugged/doesnt work or simply instead of 1000 feet increments, it jumps by 10 000 feet increments. Ive setted up a test Mirage F1 at 10 000 feet and bunch of B52s at altitude of 25 000 approx 35nm away so i could use TDC all the time. Dialed...

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I saw a bug 1 mean 10k

slate nebula Aug 29, 2022, 1:56 PM

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It's supposed to be 1k but it's bugged

low musk Aug 30, 2022, 9:22 AM

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🤨

low musk Aug 31, 2022, 7:44 AM

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Why AIM9 always cant get tone?I am at bandit's six oclock ant he is turning AB

red seal Aug 31, 2022, 7:46 AM

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Did you turn it on?

low musk Aug 31, 2022, 7:51 AM

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I mean what version I need take

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P or J

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There has search sound but no tone for shoot

winter anvil Aug 31, 2022, 7:53 AM

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low musk I mean what version I need take

On the F1 you probably want the juli version if it's available in the mission

low musk Aug 31, 2022, 7:54 AM

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No juli,only J and P

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J better?

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also,530IR so hard to get tone too even I at bandit's six o'clock and so close.But sometimes the 530IR can lock long range target ,I can't see the bandit by my eyes

slate nebula Aug 31, 2022, 10:02 AM

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Are you selecting the Sidewinders on the weapon selector or with R mode?

low musk Aug 31, 2022, 11:01 AM

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slate nebula Are you selecting the Sidewinders on the weapon selector or with R mode?

Dogfight mode,already selected aim9 and has search sound

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I tested J version,seems better than P

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At least I can get the lock tone behind the bandit

brittle inlet Aug 31, 2022, 1:28 PM

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the seeker FoV is quite narrow to get tone

royal oak Sep 1, 2022, 3:02 PM

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Anyone else having their F1 rock back and forth ever since this latest update? It sort of sways in its yaw anytime I maneuver

winter anvil Sep 1, 2022, 3:04 PM

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royal oak Anyone else having their F1 rock back and forth ever since this latest update? I...

yes, seems the pitch and yaw dampeners got broken in the update

royal oak Sep 1, 2022, 3:07 PM

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Oof

south pulsar Sep 2, 2022, 3:19 PM

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3D model:

Updated Cockpit PBR materials and textures overall darkness. The cockpit is now much lighter.

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rejoice

strong raptor Sep 5, 2022, 8:34 PM

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Fun thing I found out. The flare/chaff boxes reflect how many of each you fired.

muted torrent Jul 21, 2022, 6:04 PM

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Mirage F1, let's goooo!

fair ocean Jul 21, 2022, 6:05 PM

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Just finished downloading so finally will be able to try it out for myself

muted torrent Jul 21, 2022, 6:06 PM

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Baily's bindings tips:
trim.
flaps.
dogfight switch and its off (something like C+S/M switch)
Radar Marker Move binds
Nose wheel Gain
Radar lock and unlock
Chute
Airbrakes
Gun fire
Bomb Drop

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Darn, can't pin that

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Parking brake left side near "gear T shape". Another helpful tip from Bailey

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How is Mirage F1 going for everyoen?

fair ocean Jul 21, 2022, 6:33 PM

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Sweet, bindings done so now to fly it out and see how it performs

muted torrent Jul 21, 2022, 6:36 PM

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Can't wait until, I don't know... 0500 UTC when I can finally fly

shy grove Jul 21, 2022, 6:37 PM

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Ewww Forum kek

muted torrent Jul 21, 2022, 6:38 PM

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shy grove Ewww Forum <:kek:669244300118327356>

yeah, well... I'm game to try it out at least

muted torrent Jul 21, 2022, 7:24 PM

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There's probably more discussion on LK and ECW

fair ocean Jul 21, 2022, 7:58 PM

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So much fun, managed to kill the engine just by speeding

muted torrent Jul 21, 2022, 8:17 PM

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Nice. I'm hoping it feels as fun to fly as the Tomcat

fair ocean Jul 21, 2022, 8:41 PM

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its hard to describe. The throttle issues remind me a bit of the Me-262 in IL-2 but with lots of shaking when you fiddle the throttle in a dogfight

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The plane is unforgiving when it comes to handling but extremely responsive

muted torrent Jul 21, 2022, 8:48 PM

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Sounds amazing

fair ocean Jul 21, 2022, 9:19 PM

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The afterburner reminds me of the one in the F-14A. Takes ages but you get this incredible roar and oompf when it comes on

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It is also very mirage like as expected. You probably already know half the stuff if you flew the M2K but it's all in weird areas

muted torrent Jul 21, 2022, 9:20 PM

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fair ocean It is also very mirage like as expected. You probably already know half the stuf...

I'm excited. It will make the Mirage experience more complete

fair ocean Jul 21, 2022, 9:21 PM

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Yh and boy are the sounds fun. Push the plane in a way it doesn't like and it will let you know by shinning a bunch of lights at you and beeping

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Feels like an F-16 on the ground too.

muted torrent Jul 21, 2022, 9:29 PM

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Wow, so all around you're a thumbs up. Cool

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Can't wait to find the bugs and idiosyncrasies of the module. Really looking forward to just enjoying my first cross country in it

fair ocean Jul 21, 2022, 9:35 PM

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the main issue I've been getting is simply bindings. The one for changing radar modes specifically is a bit weird

muted torrent Jul 21, 2022, 9:54 PM

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I'm collecting notes on the F1, apparently only from Bailey and JP here. Regarding radar scale:

I have the same issue. Both bindings switch between 7nm and max range. Same happens when trying radar modes, though clicking on the buttons in the cockpit manually doesnt have the same issue

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(how do the radar range bindings work)
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silent oreBOT Jul 21, 2022, 9:55 PM

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Username JP#2312

this one specifically

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muted torrent Jul 21, 2022, 9:56 PM

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SABRE 5-9 | Antheus — Today at 12:52 PM
Bomb Drop/Missile Fire is the Bombs, Rockets, Missile, and Sight Recorder button
also the axis for the radar thing is Radar Control Stick Bearing (L/R) and Range/Velocity(Up/Down)

tawny depot Jul 21, 2022, 9:56 PM

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soooooo

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^ was the clickable cockpit mod

muted torrent Jul 21, 2022, 10:00 PM

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How many aircraft are there?

tawny depot Jul 21, 2022, 10:03 PM

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no thats the F1 with a su25t cockpit lol

robust raptor Jul 21, 2022, 10:03 PM

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bruh what is this jet and why is it so expensive

tawny depot Jul 21, 2022, 10:03 PM

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but it does all fc3

tawny depot Jul 21, 2022, 10:03 PM

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robust raptor bruh what is this jet and why is it so expensive

its the same price as other modules?

robust raptor Jul 21, 2022, 10:04 PM

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is litearaly 80$ without discount

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is it a new module or sum?

muted torrent Jul 21, 2022, 10:04 PM

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tawny depot no thats the F1 with a su25t cockpit lol

was hoping maybe you bugged into an F1 flying inside the Su-25

muted torrent Jul 21, 2022, 10:05 PM

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robust raptor bruh what is this jet and why is it so expensive

Think of it as a "early, non-fbw version of the Mirage 2000"

fair ocean Jul 21, 2022, 10:05 PM

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robust raptor is it a new module or sum?

Came out fairly recently

muted torrent Jul 21, 2022, 10:05 PM

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and that's close enough

austere pewter Jul 21, 2022, 11:01 PM

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muted torrent I'm collecting notes on the F1, apparently only from Bailey and JP here. Regardi...

These binds work on steam deck.

light swan Jul 22, 2022, 1:05 AM

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Anyone been to 40k+

humble relic Jul 22, 2022, 2:24 AM

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@slate nebula went to 80k+ DunkekStare

fluid turret Jul 22, 2022, 3:00 AM

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Baguette space force

slate nebula Jul 22, 2022, 3:23 AM

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The altimeter stops at ~65k

austere pewter Jul 22, 2022, 3:38 AM

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slate nebula The altimeter stops at ~65k

Which one?

austere pewter Jul 22, 2022, 3:39 AM

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humble relic <@181135479008133120> went to 80k+ <:DunkekStare:661445049745145856>

0percent surprised 😄

slate nebula Jul 22, 2022, 3:39 AM

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austere pewter Which one?

The main one

fluid turret Jul 22, 2022, 3:57 AM

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Damn does this thing ever run out of fuel

austere pewter Jul 22, 2022, 3:59 AM

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Yes

fluid turret Jul 22, 2022, 4:19 AM

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plane is not happy

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 4:22 AM

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Still have fuel though?

fluid turret Jul 22, 2022, 4:25 AM

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uh sure kek

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 4:26 AM

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12? You have 12 fuels still?

fluid turret Jul 22, 2022, 4:27 AM

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theres still 12 cause the engine turned off

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 4:28 AM

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Ah. Smart thinking. Don't want to burn your last fuels if you're on your way to the moon

fluid turret Jul 22, 2022, 4:30 AM

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plane randomly blew up on the way down kek

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 4:31 AM

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Sounds about right. Wait, this is ksp, right?

fluid turret Jul 22, 2022, 4:33 AM

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i need help someone have nasas #? kek

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good news is afterburner keeps working till it doesnt kek

odd stone Jul 22, 2022, 4:41 AM

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The easiest way to get an AI fulcrum off yout butt is to put the plane in a spin. Hit the brakes etc. kek

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 4:42 AM

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Oh, geez, I have to bind:

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Sweet. Got it started

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 5:13 AM

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light swan Anyone been to 40k+

I'm above 40 now I think

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first landing was a success

austere pewter Jul 22, 2022, 6:21 AM

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fluid turret plane randomly blew up on the way down <:kek:669244300118327356>

Tip, you can deploy the parachute in flight.

open pasture Jul 22, 2022, 7:37 AM

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how do you get the matra ir to fire...? it wont even come up on the hud that i have it selected

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 7:40 AM

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open pasture how do you get the matra ir to fire...? it wont even come up on the hud that i h...

do you hear the growl?

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oh matra not magic (I'm super tired)

open pasture Jul 22, 2022, 7:41 AM

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yea matra 530 IR, i got the julies to fire but the matra even though i slected it on the weapons page doesnt even show up

slate nebula Jul 22, 2022, 7:44 AM

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Make sure R mode is disengaged

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There's a separate switch that turns it off

open pasture Jul 22, 2022, 7:55 AM

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yea i have it bound

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ill try putting them on the wings

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 8:02 AM

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So, I just locked a target, had master arm on, one of my Matras selected and got behind a bomber. I got a tone, but an orange solid dot (not green, so that probably means it's a red dot and I've exceeded parameters, I'm guessing too close)

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still hit and took out the bomber

muted torrent Jul 22, 2022, 8:03 AM

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open pasture how do you get the matra ir to fire...? it wont even come up on the hud that i h...

you should have a triangle for the missile you selected and then a solid tone when the seeker is locked to the heat source (different than a magic or sidewinder growl)

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worked with and without a radar lock for me, so, just like a big aim9

open pasture Jul 22, 2022, 8:10 AM

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yea it wasnt showin up on the hud at all idk

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ill try it agian we shall see

open pasture Jul 22, 2022, 8:50 AM

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ok so the wing ones worked

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hm

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