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Guys I need help
With what bestie
Good question, aren’t they the same ? 🤯
Basically I’m tryna block someone but is not letting me block it’s just keeps loading
Whereas
If I block someone else that doesn’t happen
That means you’re blocked already
As in they blocked you
No because he still sending me messages
If that’s the case make sure your discord is up to date and restarted or something
Unless he blocks you and unblocks and blocks
OMDDD KESHI LOVERS UNITE🥹❤️
No that’s not what’s happening 😭
Lmaoooo
You never know
But yeah
Just try to restart or update
If anything just mute the convo
all of the trees
also nobody appreciated my "he was a tater boi" XDDDD at least I found it funny 😭 😂
I thought it was funny thoo lolll
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey
Hello
Yassss
Was it like…Avril Lavigne ? Sk8ter boi ? 😂
but I was just very obsessed with food in the moment cause I'd just made chicken nuggets
GIMME
…Wait, I already said that 🤔
ofcccc!!!!!!!!!!
YUMMYYYY
lol :DDD
I have no idea, that’s why I’m asking u cuz ur a tree
Mhm, we gotta ask a Rock-Hugger then 🤔
Loll
Yes we should ask
How do rocks become boulders !
ohhhhrrrrrr
i think, in my very much not professional opinion, they start out as boulders and then get broken down over years to become rocks
I know they come in the same family but I want to know how they grow up lol
ah lolololol
they need lots of love & tlc & hugs
and thats how they grow bigger before getting broken up into rocks again
it's a neverending cycle
yess
Dress them up
So The Rock was The Boulder before, interesting…
and also butterflies
Yes
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
You guys are hilarious
Or u can make them wear a cow boy hat
Okay I GOTTA GOOOOOO watch gilmore girlllllsssssssssss byyeyeeeeeeeeeeeee
teeeeennnnnkkksssssssssssssssssss!
Hi
Hello, I’m new here
Hi new
Hello 👋
Sup
Not much might just sit in a room and do some singing. I’m kind of nervous around new people, but I am a singer.
Nice nice
Go ahead bro
Haihaii
Its alrr!! These ppl here are nice
Js like me fr
Loll
hi
Welcome
Helloo
Can every hasbin hotel fan come to the black k-box
i just woke up
Welcome !
hihihi
Can I have my camera permission please
It’s more of a confidence thing for when I sing
Hi there !
U need to be level five
Nope
Oops hello tree hugger
Two 👀
wsssup
5 is for gifs and files
Yup, for cam and stream !
Heyyy ! Nothing much today, I’m being chill, watching news and stuff
What about you !
And HEY also ! 
Hruu?
Nuh uh, you wanted to spread misinformation on purpose, hehe 👀
Iiii’m alright, and you !
thats good to hear n i've been chillinn, in the chillbox for a while
Ouuuh, cool !
I ammm terrified for me friend they are in UAE and Iran is sending missiles and me friend is sitting on rooftop watching they neighbors scream and cry
Ahem.. @jaunty token
Well they was
We callin now
Missiles are still going I think

Ouch, yeah, I think
I am drinking red tea on the fucking rooftop
While watching missles pass by
Good shit 👌
Wtf 🥲
Confirmed, still going on
F u kindly
everyone in this srv is pansexual
Ah
I am lesbian
I’m not as well x)
YOOOOOOO
Ah
Aaaah
Love your status and pronouns lol
tyyy
Yupp
I’m just chilling in k-box pink
Ni haody 🤠
Hallo
ur chinese and cowboy?
Asian American
atp im not surprised
Gang gang
ohhhh
Welcome
niii haolelijuah
adp
Me too
Nice
ty
It be like dat
ohhhh well hope u get it right 🙂
:3
i got good accent but i cant remember it unless im stressed
Asian accent is crazy
im not asain but i can make the accent good
Crazy work
Hi
Welcome
Fiiine
Oh
Yes yes
I go anytime tbh I don’t have a time
It’s random
But I like to sleep late
if it ain't Asian i ain't chasing
if it aint rice it aint nice
aight bet
no homo

Welcome ! ✨
FRENCHH MAAAAAANNNNN!!!!!
DUTCH MAAAAAAAN ! 
hi
Heh
YOURR DUTCHH??
yuh
Helloo again guyss
UES WHATT
I live in the Netherlands loll
IMPREGNAY GUYS
HUHH WHAT?
niet nog een 😢
waarom zoveel mensen bruhh
YESS me and my boyfriend are expectingg!!
Lol hallo hoe bedoel je
er zijn zoooveeelllll nederlanders hier bro echt insane
Omddd congrattsss👏👏👏
yesss thnk youuu!!
Wat de flipperdieflipflop omdd das crazyy
Ik wist niet eens
that sentence is forever ruined for me
hahahaha jaaa insane
all thanks to an old dead meme from 2020
Frr is wel grappig
ja dat wel maar zoooo kut
Oh myyy
very cursed dead meme too
welcome
😭
ur welcome
bijna elke call '' wacht ben je nederlands ''
echt insane
Whaaat ?!?! This young ?! 🤯
Miss ook omdat je dutchmagicdwarf heet loll
Maar I get it thoo lol
THAAANKS AGAIN ! 
yess !!
ja fair maar alsnog
Loll
Woaaah, this isn’t common !
But congrats for you two anyway ! ✨
HUH !
I’m talking about u
U should sing me Katy Perry
@weak blaze @keen pebble @verbal pelican Okay, help, I got obsessed with WANTCHU
And there is Porter Robinson on it, ffs 
That can be possible, I think 🤔
I know some of her tracks are way too high for me
IZZIE !
Really 
Yup !
Hai
Hi there, welcome !
I just joined mind telling me why there are 50 different vcs lol
Great question actually, you’ll notice there are a few channel types !
So K-Boxes for singing, Jam to play instruments etc, Chill to talk, Juke to play music with bots etc
I see thanks mate
You can find more infos here 👊
https://discord.com/channels/269408827059732490/1029807196801871953
Ofcc your obsessed.. keshi is just too good!!
Like im also very obsessed with NIGHT
I didn't know him a lot to be honest, only LIMBO and UNDERSTAND !
Omdd I loev understand
I sang it last time in a k-box
Ouuuh
And I love LIMBO TOO
YOU SHOULD ALSO LISTEN TO MORE OF HIS SONGS
Like NIGHT
BYS
It's scheduled, hehe x)
His albums are no-skips
GOOODDD
He's been on my list for quite some time now, but like, I always forgot to focus on him, like a lot of music I have to listen to 😂
Omdd I get it tho
I listen too like everything
Soo I sometimes also forget to listen to some songs
Loll
Haha, me as well, I try to, + be curious on a looot of genres etc x')
But keshi is soo good!! I made another friend of mine obsessed with his songs loll
Yeaaa me2
Bahaha, it's like a virus at this point 😂
I like listening to different kind of music
FRRR😭😭😂😂
A good virus tho loll
That's so so good, to be honest
- as I want to be a producer in the future, I believe that inspiration is everywhere
Yeahh exactlyy!! I dont know but music is like some sort of a drug to me loll
Its just the feeling while listening..... like some sort of euphoria ig...
"Without music, life would be a mistake", right... x)
I CANT LIVE WITHOUT MUSIC
LIKE MY HEARTBEAT IS LITERALLY A BEAT LOL
SO IM BORN WITH MUSIC IN MA HEART LOLLLL
I like the fact that it can basically follow you through every step of your life, whether good or bad, and can deliver the right emotion when you need it
And finding some tracks by accident, it's for me the best feeling ever, ngl
Yeah exactly... there is never no situation that cant be described by music
Omddd yess
I literally found keshi by accident
And It felt like I won the grand prize
M'ahaha, damn 😂
I also really love underrated artists alot cus there still not fully discovered yet and it low-key feels like they're my little precious gems... my little comfort secretss
Yeaa lolll
"Gems" is a perfect word, really
I was soo proud off my self
YESSSS
We literally gold diggers, finding gems between rocks
Omdd now im gonna listen to keshi loll
GO GO GO 😂
My precious GEM
Yesyesyesss
(Un ?)Fortunately for me, I got obsessed with another track almost at the same time as keshi's
So I can switch between two 😂
Who which where
Ooohhhh sounds gooddd
🔥🔥🔥
That's soo cool
Yk listen to TRUTH from Ezra Wood
I think you'll like it too
And also ECSTASY from JOMO
Saveddd
Ooh and also RMBR ME from Pryme!
PRYME! IS ALSO REALLY GOOD
Like the whole beat is firee and his voiceee!!🔥🔥
Yessyessyess
Boom, double, triple saved
Sure !
Got me like
first second
Sooo 90s/2000 RnB, this is sooo catchy 😂
WOAAAH
THAT CHORD PROGRESSION
Very mellow, very soulful, that's a bop as well, daaamn
Third one, more actual RnB, less impressive than the 2 first for me, but still a good prod to be honest !
Omdd im glad you like this one!!
Yesss I love it soo much it's always on repeat lolll
Yeahh but I do really like it too tho! Im glad you listened to themmm!!!
😁😁
Gotta listen to more of his stuff, can't judge with one track only for sure 👀
Yaaa, got an instant reaction on this one 😂
Yeaahhh lolll I noticeddd
Got me at the first time too
Trueee
Okay im really happy rn
I can sleep happy now😁
Bahaha, glad you are ! ✨
MHMMH🙂↕️
hi
Hey hey !
France is a weird country
yo yo, anyone being a piece of tin here?
My cousin comes up to me with her wide ass ipad and iphone 16 pro max, telling me she needs iphone 17 pro max asap. Im literally here barely buying a new string for my guitar
What
yeah like a can or something, idk
Idk
I just type things to get leveled up tbh
Oh fair
anyone down to have a convo?
the feeling or the band?
The whole band
WHAT
Every single song
Why !
U from france?
I like them but I don't really listen to the,
nice pfp
Which city
I am !
I listen 24 7 yo
Thanks, hehe ! ✨
damn
Close to Paris !
Bordeaux?
(only city i know after paris)
They say theres a lot of kurdish ppl there who speak turkish
That true?
no problem anytime
I listen to different music tbh
I could never bring myself to listen to anything else tbh
I only like nirvana and nothing else
Ouh, Bordeaux is south west of France, Paris is more in the north x)
have you listened to flamewall by Camellia?
CAMELLIA OMG
A Japanese producer
I know foo fighters though
omg you have to listen to it bro
Or fecal matter
Really, REALLY talented
Nah
yeah
I enjoy raw emotions
it's like speed metal
Hell naur
My head cant handle metal
Medical reasons
Speedcore to be precise, more of an electronic music genre
yeah you're right
My seriousness inbetween a bunch of drug dealer lords
(pharmacies)
- the amount of little details he can put in his tracks, daaamn
Kurdish/Turkish aren't thaaat numerous there, tbh
Turkish, it is. Kurdish, hope its not
Not for racism but overall kurdish people have mostly been secretly racist towards us turks
Though, sensitive topic.
So im not gonna go further
Yep, sure x)
Just checked 'cause I didn't know the exact numbers but
700000 turks, against 300000 kurds here
Almost every kurdish are registered with turkish ids btw

Most of the time same for syrians too
Ouh, I see !
Just give up already
Bro were some kind of an immigrant dump istg
never
Ouch, that's a hell of a term 💀
Surrenderrrrrr
Syrians being the most common nowadays since kurdish are sadly considered turkish aswell, we got afghanese, ukrainan, uzbek(i do have problems with their culture sadly, atleast the younger generation) and also i believe saudis
We got more other races than turks
NOOOO
You guys are
And as a pure blooded turk and a turkish citizen, it kinda bothers me to not see any turks around me. Only turks are most of the time living in europe or america too
UUUUH
Raaaahhhhh
And i feel like wherever i go, i wont be accepted
Neither outside of turkey or inside turkey
Maybe switzerland if i work hard
Yieeeeeeld
...Yeah, that's a touchy topic as you said x')
Uuuuh
(i got called transphobic countless times, idk)
Anyways
Ima go off to sleep
Ill buy a bible someday
Yeah...If it happened countless times, probably it's better to know why, I guess
Most of the time its because they dont like how i think about my own self and finding certain topics gross
Otherwise i like trans people ...
How funny
I see, yeah
if whats allowed
Promoting yourself
Hey there, please don't stream without people consent, thanks !
Hi
Night you too !
So they dont call me to eat sahur or whatever
Wood tree
@everyone hosting now! join natattack
this is new
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THEREE WE GO
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Well hru my fellow bread lover
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LESSGOOOO 
What a great day for you fr, adding the profile to it 😂
have u noticed any changes at all 😭 😭 😭 😭
Not on PC yet 🤔
Imma try to guess on mobile
hi 🙂
Hellooo !
excusessss
hey marten
Yeah, I think I already saw the header + crows !
(Tbh you should take the red ones 👀)
IVE BEEN THINKING ABT ITT
red ones matches better i think
is it dark red with black background or white background
lemme seee
ykk what i like the red one tooo
idkk which one to set
Meow arowuhinjaa @glad totem
Red 100%
BROOO
Check the Discord quests !
You can grab a RE header !
ariwujanna
Arijuana is crazy
😭 😭 😭
i splelfed that wrong
profile or banner?
U should listen to like I need youu
Profile effect
setting noww
OMG I HAVE TO GET ANOTHER 4100 ORBS
😭 😭
for a color thats stupidddd
Ouuuh, saved !
Do you remember me?!
trump is that u?
No wyd
failing to sleep wbuu
Pick me up
Where !
I couldnt sleep..
Also asked my friend to bring me a bible secretly..
Holy shit the cristianity hate is crazy, were handling the bible like its an illegal firearm or a drug
Anyways, i wanted it so i can read and properly set the line inbetween cristianity and islam and basically criticize both religions in a positive way on a song of mine, and hopefully actually believe in smth
yo im still looking for someone to join my spotify premium family plan. its free i js need 2 more people to max it
Why couldnt i meet you when i didnt have spotify pre 🥺
you can stop paying for it and il give u mine
Nah
k
do you know anyone who would join mine
Ayo
Me
yo
🥺🥺🥺
il dm u the link
Hi
Hi, hope everyone is feeling groovacious……… 😊
HA
Nuh uh, not HA at all 😭
AAROOON ! 
Tree
oh no
I messed up
dang it
Sup
I think I might have invented an advanced passenger microphone……
Nighty
Is kanye washed
1
3
At the farmers market with my so-called girl friend
NIIIIIGHT ! ✨
I use Sennheiser HD205
I use Bose qc ultra headphones @steel token
Will u sing me a song tomorrow 
Why not ? 🤔
Very good
hater u dont sing for me
I could !
Only con is that long ahh cable 😂
0.0
Kaiser ! 
Hello 0.0
Worth the compromise..with wires you get max audio quality
Yup, and I have it for a looong time !
I’m a Bose fanboy
I see, that's a good brand !
You are damn right
- they've been a reference in noise reduction
What is your fav pc accessory brand?
Idk a lot, but, so far, I've never been disappointed by Logitech for example
Ah Logitech, I like steelseries and razer
Me too
Delusional fella
DO YALL WANT A FREE MONEY PRESS THIS LINK https.freemoneylololollolol.com NOT A SCAM!!!!!
Def don’t go under but around 100$ try AUDIO-TECHNICA ATH-M40X
Especially if you’re tryna mix and master or do audio stuff
It’s good
You also can just use any normal cosumer headphones or earbuds you own
You don’t need to buy very special headphones or monitors but if you want that’s on you but it’s not always necessary as depending on your experience you can easily produce and mix good or even better with non studio headphones 🤷♂️
Cosmos twerk
Thanks
yippie
Imma get myself a mechanical keybaord this Tuesday
Happy March!
what's happy about march?
It’s not February
i mean, day one and it's already looking like "f##k this month" mood.
now May, on the other hand... now that's a month i am happy with, if we make it till then.
Dis is da way
Rip gif perms
Nah we could’ve got gta 6
Fuck may now


i'm still happy i'm getting Forza Horizon 6 by may.
i can enjoy some racing in Japan.
👋
🥖
🥖

Currently listening to it, his high line sounds so much like Shiloh Dynasty 
That’s very chill !
Yess
Omgg meoweie kaboomy wavloomy wazoomy
Dang, why I think Justin Bieber would be such a good feat. for that
I'm ngl chat trying to sing has to be one of the worst experiences ever, I go "Hey this is fun to sing," then realize I have 0 talent and speech issues to boot and get sad
🥀
what you lack in talent can be made up with skill , just practice
Talent alone is not so much in singing to be honest, it’s all about improvement and work
Google, the Soft Palate isn't a muscle. You can't lift it.
Eh, it's hard to when you're a complete idiot, 0 money, a horrific fear of hearing your voice, and extreme confidence issues that really easy demotivate you
google ai overview
AI ?
Especially when you have 0 capacity to gain skill like me 🥀
Yes
you cant be a better singer with that mentality, luckily singing is a skill that only requires time since there is free education on youtube
Holy SHIT this is impossible 🙏
talent can come with practice.
It's not a mentality, it's an objective fact
How do I even make it fun?
I can get past all those objectives if I can find a way to have any amount of joy
This isn't very joy filling to be incapable of going from 1 note to the other 🥀
when you say objective fact, that is a part of your mentality
Agree to disagree (Even if some things are objectively true)
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It's hard to actually try when my mood is killed instantly
How poor does one need to be to need free toilet paper from a discord link
This is true
We are humans with a strong brain
We don’t like the sound of our own voice and we always have the negativity thinking and comments
Hence why singing is hard
Well atleast the coaches aren't shit 🥀
- Complete idiot : who says that and why ? (if it’s yourself only, doesn’t count, as it’s not objective at all)
- 0 money : work if you can, otherwise you don’t need that in priority, you can find free resources
- Fear of hearing your voice : a lot of people have that, you’re used to you internal voice, with more low frequencies than what you can hear on recordings for example
- Extreme confidence issues : like work, can be fixed as well, try to find the right way for that, through playful activities etc (like theater, for example)
It’s experienced and technique and they have coaches themselves
👁️ 💉
It’s not fair to compare
do you think coaches were born good?
Ot
I disagree
Keeps me grounded
Makes sure I know I'm ass
And that’s the obstacle you’re facing lie what donkey said unfortunately and yes again we get what you means and tryna say for sure
You’re not the only one who thinks this
But singing is experience and practice and technique
And yes coaches were ass too
I’ve met many who couldn’t sing at first
we are never good on our first try (of any thing) but at least we know it's only better after
And yes they have videos
Fr
Coaches like us weren’t good singers
They practice
NEEDING TOLIET PAPER IS MORE THEN BEING POOR AND IS A MINDSET
And yes celebrities too
Like Ed Sheeran
He even said he was ass and he was and proved it with a old song

Not only it isn’t fair, but it’s completely useless and unproductive
Tbf I don't think I have confidence issues but when I state my opinions people say I do so it's obligatory to put
Fear of hearing your voice
If I heard my voice I would most likely quit trying to sing
0 money
Unable to, I'll try in the future if I can
Complete idiot
2.7 GPA, never had an A in my life, and I'm a comedically slow learner
I consider comparisons a handy tool to make sure you know just how much you have ot go and your current standing
no embed..ae
I know all these truths but like I can deal with them if it was even fun
It's like learning how to draw (A horrific experience so I quit that shit, it's why I 3D Model)
do you want to be a better singer?
Yeah it does suck being shit
I BELIEVE IN YOU
I'd reckon yes
no i mean it
all im saying is i believe your attitude is what is holding you back
If they suck tell them they suck and they COULD get better
well not literally anything
I disagree, I think it keeps me grounded
It's how I approach everything in life
so you give up easily?
A nice level-headed approach
No, I'm aware of my shittiness
And I don't pretend or cope that I'll "get better," I might, but that's a guess
what's 9+10?
Some people are just naturally ass
27
Life isn’t about people’s thoughts and A’s, bro x’)
If you want to sing, you just need a mic, a music, and your emotions
If you want to learn, no matter how long you can take, each step forward is important
you stpude
what
Emotions won't make up for my shittiness, sure I might get somewhere with centimer steps a week, but..
I mostly came on here to know how it's supposed to be even fun
It's hard to even improve when I'm not even having fun and miserable the entire time I actually try learning jackshit
You’re closing your own doors yourself
do you want help/answers?
That’s why you can’t have fun
I mean I watch singing tutorials like the everyman but they do jackshit when by the 3rd I'm more thinking; "Man, I suck. These tutorials sound nice, though. I know I can't do it though."
Sure
See ?
Wdym
I can't
It's like an objective truth
Too mid to do the tutorials right
it really doesnt seem like you want to solve your problem
So I get neglible results
Well start lower ?
Where?
it sounds like you see singing as a chore rather than a fun activity
Is learning to sing supposed to be fun?
as if you arent a good singer at the start it doesnt matter / all or nothing mentality
It should be
you guys are so positive
Singing is fun, learning how to sing? I would unironically prefer eating oranges and lemons whole
i like you
learning anything is fun if you have interest / passion for it
It's a completely miserable process I just wind up feeling like shit right after
With neglible results
News to me, but then again, some people are more positive than others
Man, basically you’re trying to say that you can’t run a marathon because it’s not fun to learn how to run 1 mile x)
Well the body can learn how to cause it's not the brain
It is
Like lets take a gander at this
Everything starts with mental
Now this is pretty bad, don't you agree?
How am I supposed to pat someone on the back with this garbage perfomance
Can’t judge on a single note on a single take
To me this is a "Wrap it up pal, you missed 3 notes on 0.5 speed 🥹 "
you can always try again
now you understand how to correct the mistake
To give the same shoddy perfomance?
No not really, changing notes felt the same
I'm too incompetent atm to improve based off of that
I mean it tells me DAMN I suck
But like
I don't know how to fix that
I mean I know breath support and diapgrahm etc etc
I don't really feel any differences when I do it "wrong" vs "right"
So am I really learning?
Exactly
The key is not to be good on first try
The key is only to try
And to try again
do you know scales/keys?
And again
I know what a key is, I'm not the brightest bulb so I don't know what a scale is
That could be a good beginning, keys/scales
No, the key is to do it right
If you can't do it right you're an idiot (imo)
And you gotta get back to the workshop gng
🥹
why are you so harsh on yourself
Well, man, lemme tell you something
There’s no way to do it right
I feel like I'm pretty fair
Any tutorial on existence would disagree
There's a right way to do everything
There's a wrong way to do art.. AI
Yes it is, it's the most visually appealing thing to the eye
Because it has infinite "right" ways
Like for example
If it's not visually appealing to any audience no matter how small then congrats you somehow failed at art
Which is impressive considering there's a group for anything
Do you think Jimi Hendrix was "right" when he basically reinvented guitar ?
I have no clue who that is
One of the guitar gods
It has the word invent in it so I assume not since "invent" implies an accepted success
Man, if you think about that, you don’t understand art x)
No many for how many people you express it
The most important thing is that you express that to yourself, and by yourself
I guess
People will follow afterwards
That’s probably where you have to start then
I tried, hated it, quit
You say you wang to learn to sing
No thanks ion do art
So why do you want to sing in the first place ?
I'm moreso curious on how to have it be fun
The process of learning
To make songs? Idfk
Making a song would be nice
So, to make art ?
I mean I know it'll be a shitty so no matter what
If you consider it art
It is
damn, you guys are still going
ok so you dont want to learn to make art
its ok
I consider it a product (I will not fucking change my terminology on this shit.), you call it art
HELLO
you can stay being pessimistic
I"M NEW
you can stay stagnant
I'm not really pessimistic
But
If you consider it that
Oh wow, bro… 😂
you really are
I never said I NEVER could, it's just very unlikely it'll be good
:((
I'm not seeing what you see man
o<
I'm just seeing a fair assessment
Considering yourself shitty without even trying is pessimistic, yep
Yes yes I see your messages
Not really, when you attempted and saw the product and assessed it to be low quality
It's not pessimistic if it's true
WELCOMEEEE !
If you suck at something, you're shit
THANK YOU
For who ?
You might have a reason to be shit I.E being a beginner, but shit is shit no matter what word ya use
yeah totally man thats why art is only good for some and for some it its not totally man
Wdym
art? fart
Why are you so obsessed on this art point
Genuine question fyi
I'm not even trying to learn how to draw 😭 🙏
good luck bro
good luck
"True", for who ? Yourself only, I guess ?
To.. not draw? Thanks bro
Anyone who would see/hear it
I mean I probably have an audio clip of me singing, it's not very good but it's objectively unskilled
Unless nobody is unskilled?

