Superman

[craggy pawn]

I'm gonna watch everything DCU, just like I've watched everything MCU but majority of people aren't like that..

[unreal widget]

As long as it doesn't introduce something key to the future movies

[craggy pawn]

Yes

[wind adder]

I haven’t watched Creature Commandos yet.

[craggy pawn]

Are we gonna get a copy of this book in real just like Ant man and his book?

[golden frost]

Have a friend who talked to me last year about his extreme excitement for Superman

Turns out he was disappointed

Which shocked me

[craggy pawn]

Ya, you never know what people will think about a movie and that shows the subjectivity of it.

[glass meteor]

Yeah, I personally found it mediocre but I'm glad it's doing well. It means that we get more DC projects

[craggy pawn]

That's absolutely the right attitude to have because Gunn has said that not every DCU movie is gonna be like Superman as there will be other writers and directors.

Supergirl and Clayface are gonna be very different than Superman and you may like those.

What I hate is people rooting for failure of Superman and DCU because they don't like the movie.

[glass meteor]

Yeah, I'm looking forward to Supergirl. It wasn't too long ago that I watched Peacemaker and I'm honestly excited for Season 2

[craggy pawn]

Same, can't wait for Peacemaker Season 2.

[unreal widget]

Omg I just realised we had lex in the MCU

[craggy pawn]

How?

[unreal widget]

It seems like fandom's tend to overlook that more and more. The fact that people can look at one thing very differently with a different train of thought.

[craggy pawn]

Absolutely.

[unreal widget]

Well Darren Cross

[craggy pawn]

Oh come on.. yes both are bald, doesn't mean they are the same.

[unreal widget]

And owning manager of a multimillion dollar tech company

Filled with hatred and jealousy for the main hero who got everything they wanted.

Even got henchmen who willingly do his bidding

[craggy pawn]

Some things are definitely common between the two

[wind adder]

||Darren Cross got a redemption arc though.||

[golden frost]

||He was not a dick||

[glass meteor]

Thought this film would have done better, but Superman isn't as big as Spider-Man

[echo kraken]

The Venn Diagram of the villains are actually quite large lol...

[echo kraken]

Superman USED to be bigger, but Spiderman had ALWAYS been more relatable.
Marvel was originally concepted on "real people with powers with real problems", with a majority of that on teenage anxieties and a lot of tech/sci-fi slant, as a 60s reply to the 40s and 50s DC near monolopy.
DC was mostly "Gods and Monsters", with more grander powers and existence, less on the tech heroes... of course they did change to adapt.

That said, it's 20% less than my projection, which is slightly surprising.
What's more surprising is that FF opened only slightly larger, but had a sharper drop-off.

[echo kraken]

A significant amount of comic book artists went back and forth between DC and Marvel in the 80s and 90s, there are a lot of cross-polinations in the end of Silver Age and the beginning of Bronze Age going into the Modern Age, when they became a bit more corporatized.

But if I want to make direct "supervillain to supervillain" comparison, I'd argue that Dr. Doom is more similar to Lex Luthor than Darren Cross.

[echo kraken]

Daren Cross is more closer Green Goblin... but then again Marvel had a lot of rich tech guys as bad guys, way more than DC, which is why Lex stands out in DC I think.

Marvel "rich tech villains" are almost a dime a dozen lol

People forgot that Magneto was a scientist (in some iterations), Dr. Doom, Emma Frost, Obadiah Stane, Justin Hammer, Vulture, Ultron, Norman Ozborn, Otto Octavious... all share a large Venn Diagram intersections with Lex Luthor at one time or another.... This is just off the top of my head on the more major villains, I'm sure there are way more if I want to spend time digging into it.

It probably doesn't came as a shock that the Hugo Strange, Dr Sivana, and Lex Luthor were some of the earliest Tech Supervillains ever created, and to some extent served as a template to all Tech Supervillains since.

Hugo Strange's traits can be found in almost all Power-Hungry Crazy and Biotech, Dr Sivana in Knowledge-Hungry Unethical (mad scientist), and Lex Luthor in Power-Hungry Genius Entrepreneurs

Take a splice of each and you can create almost every tech supervillain cocktail.

[tame tangle]

so this is how originality dies, via cocktail.

[thick arch]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8kmEME4/

😭

[finite oracle]

First example would be Suicide Squad since it somewhat ties to the DCEU but isn’t exactly mandatory because all of the characters there have defined traits in the film to get exactly what that’s about. I don’t know about CC yet but I know Superman having Peacemaker cameo adds to the world building and peaks interest in wanting to watch a show separated of the Superman movie.

It’s like JL and Superman animated, they exist in the same universe but aren’t beholden to the other arcs that made JL or titular character Tim shows. You get the heroes and you see them all expecting the writers to respectfully demonstrate their traits.

Also just watched it the third time.

[craggy pawn]

https://x.com/giteshpandya/status/1951655673000824981?s=46

Gitesh Pandya (TikTok @gitesh.pandya) (@GiteshPandya)

It's now safe to say that at the Summer 2025 domestic #boxoffice, #Superman will easily finish higher than #FantasticFour. Probably $50-60M higher.

X · Aug 2, 2025, 2:45 PM

Who would have thought?

[unreal widget]

Ok

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-funny-chuckle-gif-14439668

[echo kraken]

Welcome to the post-modern world, there’s no original ideas just good remixes

[tame tangle]

amen.

[echo kraken]

I like it because it’s world building AND a coherent film… good beginning, good progression, good ending.

[unreal widget]

I can't wait for guys reaction when the seven form their own team and call it the justice LEAGUE instead of gang 😂. Guys snark 👌

[wind adder]

https://youtu.be/FULdEAcwrE4?si=iPVYigHbq6TAZuIX

[echo kraken]

Haw haw, then someone tries to start JLA

[glass meteor]

I think that the Justice League will be like the cartoons and that will be amazing

[unreal widget]

https://tenor.com/view/wonder-woman-batman-dcau-justice-league-unlimited-gif-17018809

[tame tangle]

i wish they'd keep the man of steel guy for MM.

[unreal widget]

MM?

[civic marten]

Magnet Master

Henry Cavill is a popular fancast for the role

[gritty tundra]

Ff have a drop off?

[craggy pawn]

Magnet master is a DC character?

https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1952001565222457551?t=nIMazn7_KrfAN9vxY5SvVg&s=19

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm)

‘SUPERMAN’ will likely be the highest grossing comic book movie of 2025

The first time for DC since 2008 when the MCU started.

Read our review: https://t.co/3sWy8gsNCU

X · Aug 3, 2025, 1:40 PM

It just shows how far Marvel has fallen

[opal fog]

Marvel got #GunnedDown 💔

[craggy pawn]

Nice one

[tame tangle]

martian manhunter

[tame tangle]

then why dont their movies and shows suck?

[craggy pawn]

It doesn't suck for you and for the most part me as well but I mean, it has been a lot for casual audience members

[tame tangle]

its becoming hard to judge media when good stuff gets ignored and bad stuff is popular...

[craggy pawn]

The biggest mistake was this notion that they had to watch shows before watching a movie and that just killed enthusiasm plus the movies weren't that good too compared to first 3 phases

[craggy pawn]

It's ridiculous that Jurassic world rebirth has crossed 700 million but neither Superman or F4 will cross that

[tame tangle]

its ridiculous the Jurassic park got so many sequels, each of them more useless than a pregnancy test in a convent. They should have nuked the island and go out on a hit.

[craggy pawn]

I mean JW got sequels because each of their movies made over a billion dollars, it doesn't matter if majority of people think a movie is bad.. if it makes over a billion dollars then you make a sequel (Aladdin is a rare exception)

[civic marten]

Marvel should do more stuff like Andor

Actual good telly

[unreal widget]

Superman isn't rising that fast anymore either in world wide box office. The rate of both this and F4 look similar.

[wind adder]

The most baffling thing was Born Again’s viewership. Agatha and Ironheart had higher viewership lol.

[craggy pawn]

Ya, don't understand what happened with Daredevil. Agatha is understandable a little as she was a popular character in Wandavision show.

[civic marten]

Daredevil was never as popular as the Internet thought he was lol

Very vocal online following

But cancelled by Netflix due to poor viewer retention back in the day

Agatha made more of a splash with the common folk

[craggy pawn]

Netflix Daredevil series was quite popular though

[timber obsidian]

Everyone so obsessed with numbers

its funny

[wind adder]

Because numbers are important

[craggy pawn]

https://x.com/BORReport/status/1952026066421526756?t=AvJMGLQUVRlDp8h3H3KagQ&s=19

BoxOfficeReport.com (@BORReport)

Warner Bros.'s Superman has passed the $550M global mark.

The film grossed an estimated $11.2M internationally this weekend. Estimated international total stands at $235.0M, estimated global total stands at $551.2M.

#Superman #BoxOffice

X · Aug 3, 2025, 3:17 PM

It's definitely crossing 600 million

[civic marten]

Sure

But it gets overstated

It’s funny how nobody is talking about the movie anymore

Just the box office

[wind adder]

I wonder if this leads to a Superman game by Rocksteady

[echo kraken]

Everything has drop offs at 2nd weekend lol… well anything in the past decade.

[echo kraken]

Surprisingly similar curves, but the numbers for day to day reduction of box office on FF looks worse…

[echo kraken]

Oh no doubt, but END OF RUN. I was expecting it to be passing 600mil on Day 30. I mean we have another 7-8 days or so, miracles can still happen.

[night hamlet]

Its not a mega hit, but it shows people are still interested in DC, and this new start..is solid.

Superman specifically.

[timber obsidian]

When you're waxing poetic at the end of your life

reminiscing on all of the movies you've seen and loved

are the box office numbers

going to come to mind

the answer is no

Everyone is so fucking hyperfocused on "flop or not" that movies dont even fucking MATTER to people anymore

And that's just so god damn depressing

Movie discourse has been dying for a long time

but shit like this excels that

[wind adder]

I mean it should’ve been a mega hit

[silent halo]

DC's public face has been in the dumpster for years

this is a very good start

It didn't have to be a mega hit

And it wasn't going to

[wind adder]

Superman is the third most popular comic book character.

[silent halo]

That doesn't mean shit when the public face of the company is in the dumpsters for years

[wind adder]

This film making less than MOS isn’t really impressive at all box office wise

[silent halo]

Oh so we're just comparing to a movie when the studio wasn't in dumpster in the public eye

It's a notable difference and Superman did very well for DC

[wind adder]

And that will continue after Superman. When your second most popular character can’t even make big numbers, then the others aren’t going to do well.

[silent halo]

What

500m+ is a hit bro idk what the fuck you're talking about

[wind adder]

Superhero fatigue is another thing

[silent halo]

it doesn't exist

[wind adder]

Can you read?

[silent halo]

yeah I can read 500 million+ is a hit

It made it's money back and did well in the box office

I seriously do not see how this is a negative effect

[wind adder]

Superman will probably end up with 600 mil WW, but that’s not impressive for such a behemoth IP.

Batman is the only DC IP that will end up making more

[silent halo]

600 mil is impressive when the face of the studio in public eye has been in the garbage

You're just not acknowledging this

And it's been a massive factor for all films that DC released

This movie reaching likely 600 is not negative at all and it's so funny that somehow it's being spun in a way that it's not a good sign

[wind adder]

Superman is beyond DC. He’s literally the OG hero lol. It’s irrelevant how bad their previous shared universe did. Just like how MCU’s recent blunder won’t affect Brand New Day considering how popular Spider-Man is.

[tame tangle]

It should do more good stuff, agreed. But like Andor?

[civic marten]

Andor is the best thing to come from Star Wars in this century

[wind adder]

With the reception, you would expect this movie to make much more.

[silent halo]

https://x.com/baileylikemovie/status/1951032458142482768?s=46&t=_IyoRjPvWTSyk9c03imR8g

bailey (@baileylikemovie)

It feels like you can’t have a single discussion about movies nowadays without someone bringing up box office or budget or some other boring shit that’s nothing to do with the actual fucking movie

X · Jul 31, 2025, 9:29 PM

[civic marten]

A good thing to aim for imo

[tame tangle]

Not for me.

[craggy pawn]

I absolutely agree with this. It's a good start for Superman at a time when superhero movies in general are facing serious difficulties.

[silent halo]

Probably the best thing that's come out in Star Wars entirely

[civic marten]

You should give it another watch

[silent halo]

Marvel is never gonna do prestige tv afaik

I can see it happening in DC with Gunn having more leanway towards creatives

[craggy pawn]

Superman is a top comicbook character for sure but it doesn't mean it would have been automatically a success though esp if the movie was bad, it has great legs esp in US.

[tame tangle]

You guys can enjoy all that's good about it. I'll go enjoy what's missing from it, such as the action, the wars, the Force and the aliens and the dogfights.

[craggy pawn]

I mean, Wandavision imo was prestige TV.. Loki too sort of

[silent halo]

Neither of that is prestige tv lmao

With prestige tv I mean like

shows that are actually discussing topics in a mature way

[craggy pawn]

Imo.. it was, Wandavision esp.

[silent halo]

Wandavision is incomparable to Andor lol that shit is not prestige tv

[craggy pawn]

Those are such different shows

[silent halo]

Yeah I'm talking about prestige tv that's andor

Not wandavision

[craggy pawn]

You know, Andor proved that Star wars could be more than just the force and jedis and stuff but it's all subjective.. you didn't like it as much as others, that's fine.

[civic marten]

Literally all of those things are in pretty much every episode of Andor

Just a heads up

[unreal widget]

Why does it say 534 on box office mojo

[craggy pawn]

They still haven't fully updated the numbers

[silent halo]

it's like insane to me people say this as a critique as if it's not in andor too

[tame tangle]

I know its more than that. Which why if Andor included more of these things without sacrificing the writing and the cast and everything, i'd be in absolute love with it.

[silent halo]

The thing Andor does is that it's actually good with it

[tame tangle]

as it is, for me its boring.

just my op

[craggy pawn]

Let's agree to disagree on this.

[silent halo]

Feels like you want a show to be something it isnt

[unreal widget]

Ic

[tame tangle]

I feel like Andor is something it isnt...purely my take on it, not trying to change anyone's mind. Wish someone knew where i was coming from. Its too drastically different from everything that has the SW name on it.

[unreal widget]

Andors the best example of true potential of star wars

[wind adder]

This was already proven way before Andor.

Star Wars was never just about the force users.

[tame tangle]

so the first main guy you see isnt Vader.

[silent halo]

going back to superman it did very well

the next things that DC has in store we'll see

I'm expecting Clayface to be a success because of it's nature in being a low budget movie

[wind adder]

What does that have to do with my point

[craggy pawn]

There wasn't a show like Andor though

[wind adder]

There are other mediums, dude.

[craggy pawn]

Supergirl could do well also esp if the trailers are good and it has Mamoa as Lobo.

[silent halo]

yeah Mamao is a pretty big selling point

[craggy pawn]

I exclude games and even in other mediums, a lot of focus was on Jedis and force users and stuff.. like the animated shows

[wind adder]

Maybe to the GA, Star Wars is proven to be successful aside force users since Rogue One.

[tame tangle]

it had donnie yen kicking ass.

[unreal widget]

Force users don't have to be the focus of the show. It's like the witch in andor

[craggy pawn]

I agree

[unreal widget]

Or the monk

The force can still be part of stories

Like a way of life

[tame tangle]

whatever no force user, just...please, do something cool and exciting.

[wind adder]

I prefer Star Wars stories that focus more on the Force, but Rogue One and Andor were top notch. You can’t deny that.

[wind adder]

What did you think about Ahsoka and Acolyte?

Because those shows weren’t well made like Andor and it had force users.

[sharp hearth]

Ahsoka's pretty good

Acolyte isn't good but not nearly as bad as people say

[tame tangle]

At the risk of pissing off alot of people, on a personal point of view, i enjoyed them. Ahsoka because its a continuation of Rebels which i was thrilled to see live-actionized, and Acolyte because, for all its faults, the lightsabering was pretty darn good.

[civic marten]

Ahsoka is probably one of the worst TV shows I’ve ever seen

[sharp hearth]

Yeah the fights in Acolyte were great

[civic marten]

Acolyte was pretty good

[unreal widget]

That's exactly what starwars/non-starwars complained about, being gimmicky at the expense of good writing

[sharp hearth]

People act like The Acolyte broke into their house and poisoned their pet fish, but it's not that bad. Star Wars fans overreacting as usual.

[tame tangle]

Its not a crime to think Andor isnt the second coming.

sorry

[sharp hearth]

Andor is a perfect show... if you take out the first 3 episodes of season 2 lol

[unreal widget]

Ofc not but it's a really good one

[tame tangle]

i'd rather they take away the whole schtick where Syril goes back to live with his mum and wakes up to a bowl of Trix

[civic marten]

Would you prefer if he had a cool lightsaber

[sharp hearth]

He would

[tame tangle]

Nah, he an office guy, would be out of place.

You guys dont get what i'm saying here. you can keep the show as it is. just maybe add some shoot outs, fisticuffs and dogfighting. and less rape attempts.

avoiding the force makes sense since we're post O66.

[austere stream]

Wait why is that last one an issue
That was a very significant part of the narrative no

To Bix as a character

[tame tangle]

Show should leave Bix the hell alone. Tortured, pursued, almost rape, she's the eternal friggin victim.

[sharp hearth]

There was only one rape attempt and it was an important part of Bix's story

Also we had enough shootouts and fights

And the one dogfight we got in s1 e11 was awesome

[sharp hearth]

She fucking murdered the people who did it lol, she got vengeance

[night hamlet]

All of andor is the best starwars we have gotten since the ot. Masterful prequel writing

[sharp hearth]

OT is great but I'd argue Andor is better

[wind adder]

Ahsoka was decent.

[tame tangle]

Sure. Just not very kinetic.

[night hamlet]

And thats ok. It was a serious look into how a rebellion is formed, a slow burn and the work it takes. Its exactly as it should be.

[tame tangle]

Either ways, i watched it, and then i felt i needed to rewatch rogue one.

[night hamlet]

The next step is that level of writing and character work mixed with exciting aspects of the force, jedi, and more

[tame tangle]

And it wasnt entierly unpleasant.

[sharp hearth]

Maybe we'll get that with James Mangold's Dawn of the Jedi

[tame tangle]

if they made a third season, id watch it too. It aint my favourite show, but i'd watchit

[night hamlet]

That should be the standard. Not the exception. Ahsoka and mando season 3 fall very short. Mando 1 and 2 are fun and good.

Acolyte, kenobi, boba, are absolute trash

[sharp hearth]

They won't. Season 2 is the bridge to Rogue One.

[austere stream]

I liked Acolyte

[tame tangle]

oh i know that

[sharp hearth]

I liked Ahsoka. Mando s3 was pretty mid though and BOBF sucked. Kenobi was okay. Acolyte and Skeleton Crew were mid imo

[austere stream]

Kenobi, Boba, Mando S3 i dislike

[sharp hearth]

Mando s1/2 are great though. Not andor great, but the best live-action Star Wars TV outside of that

[night hamlet]

As long as you accept its inherently bad. Those three had CW level writing..even worse

More of that content will kill any forward momentum of starwars

[austere stream]

I dont think Acolyte was really bad tbh

[tame tangle]

i enjoyed everything, just maybe not to the same extent depending on show. Worst SW thing ever to me is resistance and the christmas special.

[sharp hearth]

5 stars - Andor s1/2
4.5 stars - Mando s1/2
4 stars - Ahsoka
3.5 stars - obi-wan
3 stars - Mando s3, acolyte, skeleton crew
2.5 stars - book of boba fett

[night hamlet]

Then you are really mistaken. Especially compared to andor or mando s1-2.

It shouldn’t be accepted. Awful character work, editing, terrible dialogue and down right terrible plot choices that harm starwars.

But thats starwars. Superman was very good. Not great though

[sharp hearth]

Acolyte is a show that exists. Great action, otherwise nothing special.

[tame tangle]

its never a mistake to think differently.

[night hamlet]

If you eat garbage and say its good…you are mistaken. 🤷‍♂️

[tame tangle]

if its good to me, i'm not.

[austere stream]

I mean its subjective so mistaken is abrasive wording lol

I really like most of it. Rough on the edges yeah but a lotta great stuff

Imo

[sharp hearth]

There is no such thing as objectivity in this context

[austere stream]

I dont think it "harms starwars" either personally

[night hamlet]

Alright, fair enough. Im just someone who has a hot take that I do not agree with saying “hey if you liked it good for you”

That means more of said content will come, and I just dont want that.

[sharp hearth]

"Harms Star Wars" is something that is said way too much

[tame tangle]

i dont feel obligated to like something because "everyone does"

[night hamlet]

I feel superman wasn’t as superman focused as Id wanted, and the story told felt very messy but fun.

I took it more as a showcase of whats to come than a great standalone movie. Which is a shame but understandable as james had to fix a LOT of what past DC had messed up

[tame tangle]

I havent seen it yet, but i will, and seeing it will decide if i love it or hate it.

[night hamlet]

The actors for Supes, lex, lois, and Terrific are amazing and Im beyond hyped to see more. I want more of david”s supes

He nails every aspect of who superman should be. Was a delight every time he was on screen

[tame tangle]

I'm rather tired of all the dc reboots. also pretty sure suicide squad isnt DCAU because Batfleck is in it.

[sharp hearth]

What?

[tame tangle]

but then, so's peacemaker. its confusing

[sharp hearth]

DCAU? That's the animated universe from the 90s

[tame tangle]

DCEU. sry

whatever they calling it

[sharp hearth]

Batfleck wasn't in SS 2021. Peacemaker wasn't in SS 2016. There's no overlap there.

[tame tangle]

dont they both have margot robbie harley quinn?

[sharp hearth]

Yes

But we don't know if she's returning

[tame tangle]

so color me confused.

[sharp hearth]

Yeah it is confusing

Gunn should've just done a hard reboot

Instead of this confusing shit

[tame tangle]

unless they setting up some crisis on infinite bullshit in that universe too.

[silent halo]

It’s not confusing at all

It’s also not important to the stories he wants to tell

Basically Gunn says if it’s mentioned it’s canon

[echo kraken]

Say you Shin, box office numbers are great and I will remember them fondly bwahaha

[echo kraken]

I’m not obsessed with flop or not, I’m sad it didn’t get as much attention and box office as it deserved. That said, I’ve always advocated “wait 5 years before you actually judge a film” and I feel that this Superman film will be one of those films where the rest of the DC’s films will redefine it a huge amount

[timber obsidian]

I'm speaking in generalities

not specifically you lol

You're levelheaded

its different

[echo kraken]

I do try to pretend to be normal

[timber obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/so-good-wink-smile-oh-yeah-its-true-gif-24163876

[echo kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/books-the-book-read-mary-and-max-gif-7494322

[timber obsidian]

aw man

that movie

sobs

[echo kraken]

Yup so good

[finite oracle]

It is a hard reboot. That’s what Superman is for. Suicide Squad is just a vague continuation but not beholden to the last project and looks like Peacemaker season 2 will address this.

[finite oracle]

I had a casual fan who had no connection to the online discourse and he was just disappointed. I think the actor for may and OSHA was just not it and also the misinterpretation of Jedi being cops and not space samurai retainers is what bothered me.

I have a lot against the idea of what Jedi are being represented as mainly because the failure of the order isn’t religious institutional corruption, it’s hubris. The movies never had them defy the senate because it’s their job to uphold democracy and the republic. Yet people ask about why Jedi don’t shut down the clones when the repercussions would be severe and also seen as a threat against the republic in a way to appease the seppies, a faction already made as an illusion for more security and ease of transfer of power into the first galactic empire…

Yea I had a headache watching that one. Not even as a hater more like lucasfilm still doesn’t get what makes a Jedi/sith. instead we get a Sith Quimir who groomed his apprentice for who knows how long and then falls for her sister… not weird at all. ._.

[cedar ermine]

My aunt purely watched it for the shirtless dude in one of the episodes

[finite oracle]

LOL

[cedar ermine]

Between that and a few other interactions I've had with other people, I think they just wanted to widen the audience

But instead they pissed off their fans and it was pretty dull

So they just majorly failed

[finite oracle]

That was the point

[cedar ermine]

Also having the main actress make a diss track on the fans because they didnt like the show didnt help at all

[austere stream]

I mean i dont blame, he is hot

[finite oracle]

She should’ve let that discussion die

[cedar ermine]

Like, I doubt people would've stayed mad at her if she didnt call them every bad group in society

[cedar ermine]

Yes, but-

I dont have a good counterpoint to that

[finite oracle]

I think Quimir is hot.

[cedar ermine]

Let's just agree he has nice pecs

[finite oracle]

But I wouldn’t dare

He has the bad boi energy

Unlike superman

[cedar ermine]

Lex energy right here

https://tenor.com/view/superman-lex-lex-luthor-monkey-typing-gif-10752702160842485994

[finite oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/superman-fly-superman-fly-flying-look-up-gif-13446659805639624536

I think this is my favorite shot

Very aura like

[cedar ermine]

It is a good one

[finite oracle]

Plus the shot where he defies the black hole saving all those near him.

[austere stream]

I love the shot of Krypto laying on him while he is in the bed
Very cute

[finite oracle]

Such a beautiful chaotic shot and great moment for the score.

[cedar ermine]

That is a great one

[finite oracle]

Yes.

Just like my pups

[cedar ermine]

I also loved the scene with kara

It shows even krypto held back on lex

He could've easily broken his back

[finite oracle]

Although he wouldn’t make for a good krypto actor

https://tenor.com/view/lex-luthor-1a-lex-luthor-1a-nicholas-hoult-angry-lex-luthor-gif-447473401542257752

[cedar ermine]

Lex made me realize I'm not hating my enemies nearly enough 🙏

[finite oracle]

I also love his speech on Galileo, how he sees intellectual peers as dwarfs and his whole worrying about humans vs Superman is really Luthor’s legacy and its meaninglessness in the greater cosmos.

[finite oracle]

Same.

[cedar ermine]

Yeah that was a great showcase of his character

[finite oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/lex-luthor-superman-nicolas-hoult-james-gunn-2025-gif-13608019807016105832

[finite oracle]

It makes me love the movie a whole lot more.

[austere stream]

Hoult was the best part

[finite oracle]

While limited, each characters lines in the film have a defined element of their personalities.

[cedar ermine]

Hes the definitive live action lyther

Hes perfect in every way

[finite oracle]

I was worried we’d get a Jesse situation but his frame and character is almost second nature on appearance.

[gritty tundra]

Wait whatttt

[cedar ermine]

You didnt know she made one?

Yeah the track was talking about how all star wars fans are racist, homophobic, sexist bigots

Worst part is, the song sucks 2

[gritty tundra]

I'm not star wars fan so I don't follow the news of it

[cedar ermine]

Ah that makes sense

[finite oracle]

I’m a Star Wars fan but I like the games and 1-6.

[finite oracle]

Supaman is 550

600 by the end of the week.

[wind adder]

Supergirl is releasing during World Cup time. It’s fucked

[rustic coral]

Nobody can write bs characters like Mr.Terrific the way James Gunn does

[finite oracle]

Huh

I was looking into lobo

[rustic coral]

Say what you want about this guy, he's the master of writing trivial characters

[wind adder]

Even if they postpone the release next month, there is BND

[rustic coral]

His actual dramatic writing sucks tho so it balances out a little

[wind adder]

And WC still continues until July 19th

[finite oracle]

I would push back on that and say he has a strong use of emotions for his scenes he just has very hard time to let them settle.

[wind adder]

Next year is pretty packed if you think about it.

[finite oracle]

Punk rocker bit at the end of the film was quite charming and beautiful, the discussion with Lois and Clark while he thinks of finding the dog was also charming.

[wind adder]

They should be releasing Supergirl during a month which isn’t busy. If they want it to make decent money.

[finite oracle]

I think the trend will still be the 50+% to -40% ratio with domestic and box office like this one.

Perhaps around 450 to be charitable

I wonder if Lobo will be shown in promos considering it’s Mamoa playing him.

Regardless of the World Cup being held in North America, more tourists will occupy seats in the US vs the US if the team is still meh.

[wind adder]

Lol I thought this movie was releasing in April

[finite oracle]

It’ll release three weeks prior to Odyssey so enough time before Nolan gets his next $800 million project.

Which is already seeing early ticket sales.

[wind adder]

The Odyssey is releasing 2 days before WC final, but I wonder if BND affects the box office.

[wind adder]

It’s releasing during the WC. Majority of the people will be watching the biggest sporting event.

Supergirl is a B list character nobody cares about

They should’ve released it earlier

Or much later

The box office will 100% be affected

Not even Momoa’s Lobo will be saving it

[finite oracle]

Hmm

[wind adder]

Toy Story 5 is releasing on June 19th too lol

No way this movie survives

And Minions 3 releases on July 1st.

It’s facing lot of competition even if you exclude WC.

[finite oracle]

Trends wise 2014 was at its weakest but July numbers are pretty strong.

So it’s all on how they’ll market the picture

[finite oracle]

2014 movies were rough you had Age of Extinction ._.

[finite oracle]

That’ll be a billion dollars

[wind adder]

They will all be affected, but Supergirl in particular needed a better release date.

If people are watching movies, then it would Toy Story 5 and Minions 3.

Is there any other prominent film releasing on June?

I mean like live action

[finite oracle]

That I’m not sure of

During Qatar the movie list was heavy hitters like these.

Top gun was two months in its theatrical run from its Memorial Day release back in May.

Poor super pets ignored

Masters of the Universe is coming out? ._.

Oh the Star Wars movie

Mandalorian and grogu

Late may

Huh what other DC project could it be? Supergirl is June 26

Clayface is also R horror, might sell if the budget is low enough to get people interested.

[somber bane]

showcasing her at the end of this film was smart though cause now the audience has already been introduced to her so there is some more motivation

[cedar ermine]

Its 50 mil IRC

[finite oracle]

A bit high but it’s CG heavy so it’s expected

[cedar ermine]

That's really low by modern superhero standards

[finite oracle]

If it’s like the Joker 1 in the sense that it’s a character study of a tragic actor’s own betrayal into the creature feature then it might do well.

[cedar ermine]

If we got off the 2x metric it only needs to make 150 to make good profit

[finite oracle]

Yea but it’s more like a horror so I expect horror budgets to be cheaper

[cedar ermine]

Its also based on the animated series episodes which are very loved

[cedar ermine]

Its still a comic movie at its core

It just has a horror angle

[finite oracle]

Invisible Man is 7 million and that’s effects heavy.

The first Joker was 55 million and that’s movie’s city looks really well lived in

So 50 mill will show off a lot more than just the creature CG.

Again really excited to see.

[cedar ermine]

Yeah that's true

[finite oracle]

I hope it’s experimental with the story telling approach.

Maybe emotionally resonating like The Fly remake.

It would be amazing

What is the animated episode called?

[cedar ermine]

Feat of clay

Season 1 episode 40 smtn iirc

[cedar ermine]

Yeah that would be interesting

[craggy pawn]

https://vxtwitter.com/dcfilmnews/status/1952431513489768799?s=46&t=iTedQWbgdDt9ZQeE7vI5qw

DC Film News (@DCFilmNews)

James Gunn is currently recording the director’s commentary for the home release of ‘SUPERMAN’.

vxTwitter / fixvx · Aug 4, 2025, 6:08 PM

Looking forward to this

[shadow marlin]

I miss the day of when I watched this movie

This movie was special

[opal fog]

Same here

[safe geode]

Meh

[livid marlin]

Peacemaker should be fun. Really liked the first season.

[finite oracle]

When I saw lil Krypto run in the opening scene

Idk why but it was like an emotional string hit seeing the dog come to life.

[unreal widget]

Might have hit me better if the entire scene wasn't already in the first trailer, but yeah, that cloud of dust creates a joyus feeling.

Well snow cloud

[finite oracle]

Seeing the title too made me super smile.

[unreal widget]

The top gun esque cinematic intro to this movie is awesome

[finite oracle]

Yesss

[unreal widget]

Yea

[finite oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/clark-kent-superman-corenswet-superman-corenswet-gunn-gif-9943401057194009327

[shadow marlin]

The scene that got me emotional was when Superman was telling lex how human he really is, how he loves, and puts his foot forward.

Lowkey inspiring

[finite oracle]

I love that bit too but I was reveling in Lex’s hatred.

His lil speech while Ultraman pins Superman made me happy that Nic’s playing this character

It genuinely surprised me at how perfect it felt.

[shadow marlin]

He’s such a good actor bruh

[finite oracle]

https://youtu.be/dDMQ3tXNKgM?si=p4w8iWA9OlD2MWGH

Great video from this channel for some Super history.

[rugged pier]

This did really well.

[near drum]

lol

[sharp hearth]

Still a lot less than I expected

[craggy pawn]

If superman makes 680 I think that will beat Man of steel box office as well.

[timber obsidian]

Y'all make it tiring to discuss this

[craggy pawn]

https://x.com/DCFilmNews/status/1952849152380981483?t=GlNp2cKuFJy1lDKoyTEHoA&s=19

DC Film News (@DCFilmNews)

New BTS look at the creation of the SUPERMAN suit.

(Via Maybelle Pineda | IG)

X · Aug 5, 2025, 9:48 PM

After having watched the movie, Superman does look a bit odd without his trunk

[safe geode]

lol

[echo kraken]

I was end of running it at 650mil, so a bit higher than I expected, especially since it didn’t pass 600mil at 30 days.

[echo kraken]

OMFG this costume and this actor really doesn’t work trunkless lol

It somehow make you MORE focused on the crotch. It’s fine in Caville because the physique is exaggerated with paddings and stuff way more lol

Without a crazily muscular look, all I see is crotch when trunkless hahaha

[stone turret]

yeah the trunks are just basic design theory

its the same reason why batman has trunks in comics

without something breaking up the midsection it just looks weird

[craggy pawn]

Ya I agree

[shadow marlin]

I love the suit with the trunks

I think it’s my fave Superman suit ever seen in the movies

[finite oracle]

https://youtu.be/APBsDqjlRE0?si=UNjbTYM6xOh7e51S

I love how he uses the word “disaster” for the box office run. As if the property is reliant on just that.

I was walking by the store shelves and the Superman toys have been emptied, the only things were: two Ultraman, two Lex, 1 Mr. Terrific. Says a lot when even others been positing the whereabouts of said toys in their stores on Reddit.

[timber obsidian]

Bro why the FUCK does anyone care about him

Let alone share it

You realize that by sharing it you boost his engagement

https://tenor.com/view/stop-stop-it-stickman-stickman-stop-panneau-stop-gif-2255528819423385927

[craggy pawn]

https://x.com/culturecrave/status/1953178367894941780?s=46

Culture Crave 🍿 (@CultureCrave)

'Superman' has officially passed 'Jurassic World: Rebirth' at the domestic box office 💰

It's now the third highest-grossing film of 2025 in the U.S.

X · Aug 6, 2025, 7:36 PM

[stone turret]

the movie is doing fantastic (say that again?) domestically but unfortunately is extremely underperforming underseas

which isnt a huge surprise

[somber bane]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-turn-mr-fantastic-and-thing-mr-fantastic-2015-fantastic-four-2015-miles-teller-gif-14989446712125729322

[craggy pawn]

It has made 239 million dollars which isn't extremely underperforming but definitely could have been much better . It is at 320 million domestic which is very impressive.

[wind adder]

https://x.com/discussingfilm/status/1953428512527839615?s=46&t=_AWFhpIAIwbUeGd6RdGh0A

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm)

David Zaslav says that James Gunn will be writing and directing the “next chapter in the Super-Family”

X · Aug 7, 2025, 12:10 PM

[tame tangle]

Zbastard finaly does something right.

[safe geode]

lmao what? he just dislikes pedro pascal decade of climbing

[craggy pawn]

What does this mean though?? A superman and supergirl team up movie ?

[safe geode]

hes doing a pyramid down development

[finite oracle]

I assume a team up movie after SuperG as a sequel for both.

[craggy pawn]

Possibly ya

[finite oracle]

It’s odd how they’re formatting this one. Because it’s like Snyderverse without the major arcs in the comics happening back to back with this DCCU

For example: MoS, BvS, Sucidie, JL.

[craggy pawn]

I mean, DCU is just starting and they are doing it differently but sooner or later we will know the bigger threat.. just not yet.

I don't think we are getting a JL movie for few years, at least until there's a solo Batman and WW movie

[opal fog]

🥹

[finite oracle]

Oh no I actually agree with this direction. It handles way more characters and considering it’s Gunn style, it will show all their feats or at least highlights them more often than just side pieces.

[craggy pawn]

Yup plus I'm sure there will be middle to low budget DCU movies in between too like Clayface next year which is kinda smart.

[finite oracle]

I want to see this but with the live action cast.

[craggy pawn]

As a huge JLAS fan, I agree

[finite oracle]

I’m looking forward to that. I got the scoop from DC and have the first concept poster.👀

[craggy pawn]

And we have both Hawkgirl and John Stewart GL already cast

[finite oracle]

Hell yea

[craggy pawn]

Nice

[finite oracle]

Lanterns will be interesting and great that it’s a Max show too.

[craggy pawn]

I also heard somewhere that Gunn is fan of JL animated series and he intends John Stewart to be GL in JL, I'm sure we will get Flash and Martian manhunter too

[craggy pawn]

Yup.. can't wait for this show.

[finite oracle]

Martian Manhunter is my favorite member next to Aquaman unironically.

[craggy pawn]

Great character and he has such a tragic backstory too, hopefully we will get him sooner.

Gunn has said he isn't thinking about Flash and Aquaman for next 2 years at least which makes sense.

Also, if we can get a wonder woman movie in 2027 that would be cool

[finite oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/dcau-martian-manhunter-dc-comics-mind-reading-gif-9626300275385088227

[craggy pawn]

Ya

[finite oracle]

I hope the new Supergirl will have an audience. Clayface will be a sleeper hit if advertised correctly.

I can even jump to saying while it won’t be “relatable” like the Joker (2019) I think the tragedy angle will get people to appreciate it as much as that one.

[safe geode]

i have a tough time seeing commercial success for these

im seeing them period

[craggy pawn]

I loved her appearance in the end and I think it can become a hit, a lot depends on marketing.. Mamoa as Lobo will definitely help.

Regarding Clayface, I mean the budget has to be low and if you can capture both superhero and horror fans.. it can be profitable

[craggy pawn]

Clayface isn't gonna be very expensive though

And I don't think supergirl will be as expensive as superman

[finite oracle]

Part of me agreed, until I saw the new Superman. I’m confident WB will stick to their guns vs their prior desperation with every release film.

[craggy pawn]

Yes

[finite oracle]

Blue Beatle actor will still be around too which I think is also an underrated action movie.

[craggy pawn]

I agree, that was a fun movie

[finite oracle]

Relatable Hispanic family movie.

[craggy pawn]

Yup

[safe geode]

havent watch BB yet

[finite oracle]

This. I’m hoping it’s not going to waste. If Lobo will be present I wonder if they’ll show him with his space dolophins

[finite oracle]

Pretty fun and enjoyable.

[craggy pawn]

I recommend it

[craggy pawn]

I mean they will market the hell out with Lobo

Jason mamoa still has plenty of fans

[opal fog]

Saddening they already got clay face legos but no David Corenswet Lego…

https://tenor.com/view/blank-stare-50cent-nah-nope-no-gif-16975883

[finite oracle]

Dude they better, I showed school mates Lobo and the fact Mamoa will play him and they were on board.

[craggy pawn]

Yup

If the trailer is good then I think Supergirl has a chance to do good

[finite oracle]

Soon

I need my collection of DC LEGO to be diverse as is.

Although I have very little

[craggy pawn]

I wonder if they will also show superman in Supergirl trailer

[finite oracle]

My favorite official Lego figure.

[finite oracle]

Wouldn’t mind if it was for a dog sitting sub plot.

[craggy pawn]

Ya

[safe geode]

https://x.com/RayneRahman/status/1953114145080885737

Rahman Rahman Jr. (@RayneRahman)

The Fantastic Superman: First Steps.

#Superman #FantasticFour #RayneRahmanJr

X · Aug 6, 2025, 3:21 PM

[echo kraken]

Noice

They need to get their competitiveness in check and give me a bunch of Amalgam Comics movies bwahaha

[austere stream]

Do you think its been an acceptable timeframe to do a Kara pfp at some point

[safe geode]

It's past time

[timber obsidian]

The poster for her movie is out so that image isn't really a spoiler

Personally wouldn't use a still from the movie though

[austere stream]

Good call prolly

What about the makeup pic
Do you think thatd kinda fall into the same category as the stills

[stone turret]

yes

anyone who cares about whether kara is in superman even a little bit has seen the movie

it has been nearly a month

[craggy pawn]

Totally

[finite oracle]

I recently read the pitch for The Lego Batman 2…

We missed a great Superman/Batman crossover event.

[echo kraken]

Any time after week 2, we are going into week 5

[echo kraken]

She’s such a cuties, especially when being jumped on (that sounds wrong lol)

[echo kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/you-bastards-kyle-broflovski-stan-marsh-south-park-s4e15-gif-21527405

Me need Lego Batman 2 NOW

[safe geode]

lego superman plz

[echo kraken]

Lego everything movies please

Even Ninjago movie is surprisingly fun

[safe geode]

ive heard the ninjagos are actually pretty good story wise

[echo kraken]

The overall Ninjago is a bit decent, but the movie is great fun

[finite oracle]

https://youtu.be/mbE_zyQxPGs?si=ipnjwQ0aGGbX0pqJ

Soundtrack sounds like a modern Homeric epic

Reminded me of the original God of War for a bit.

[stone turret]

the soundtrack is pretty super

[finite oracle]

It is. The Real Punk Rock is my favorite one.

[craggy pawn]

I've been listening to that punkrocker song every day since the movie came out .. and ya soundtrack is great

[finite oracle]

Punk rocker is catchy as hell

[craggy pawn]

Absolutely it is

[rustic yacht]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/p/DNI3NvXgSXg/?igsh=MXJmbGozM2I1bTc1dQ==

jamesgunn (@jamesgunn)

Have you seen
in theaters yet?

InstaFix

[finite oracle]

I clapped, I clapped when I saw it.

[echo kraken]

But is it punk rock? lol

[finite oracle]

Watched it again

Last time I rewatched the same film was the rerelease of Episode III, before that Top Gun 2

[craggy pawn]

I've watched it 3 times, now waiting for VOD release which is August 26 apparently.

[stone turret]

i'll definitely give it a rewatch with my friends once it comes to digital, can't really afford to go to a movie theater rn 😔

[craggy pawn]

That's fair, tickets are expensive

[timber obsidian]

no more expensive than a fast food meal

[finite oracle]

AMC movie pass baby

[craggy pawn]

Movie pass is great and also if you only pay for tickets and not concessions, it is not hugely expensive. Still if you watch multiple movies a month then get AMC movie pass.

[finite oracle]

Yea I spend the day to use my four movies.

[craggy pawn]

You watch that much ??

[finite oracle]

My last one was Eddingtom. I hated the last half.

[craggy pawn]

Haven't watched that yet

[finite oracle]

Yea if it’s a good line up.

It also cheap since it’s just one trip and some other stuff to do by the area.

[craggy pawn]

Ah

[finite oracle]

https://youtu.be/i8chAd0myXc?si=LL1RVitXDojaSPLL

CG aside I liked some of the elements in this

I wish to see the 3 hour cut

Apparently that was the version test screening audience saw.

[stone turret]

i would love to see a 3 hour cut

i know im in the minority but i like the flash

[sharp hearth]

I think its just okay

3 hour cut may have fixed some issues

And fixed CG would help too but that probably won't happen

[finite oracle]

I’m another, just wish it was more flashpoint like than relying on Zod for the third time.

[stone turret]

agreed

[finite oracle]

Batman was great, Supergirl was neat, but Dark Flash was just too confusing.

Like clear in the story but confusing in the sense of what character type is he representing because this isn’t Zoom.

[craggy pawn]

There are some issues with CGI for sure but ya I liked the flash too, never understood the extreme hate it got, I mean one reason was Ezra Miller.

[runic thunder]

My mom kept saying that David Corenswet looked like Christopher Reeve in the Superman movies she watched and I have no idea what she's talking about I don't see the resemblance

[craggy pawn]

https://x.com/Luiz_Fernando_J/status/1954580537584034053?t=48maiawMyrT4B_822JMJ8g&s=19

Luiz Fernando (@Luiz_Fernando_J)

#SUPERMAN Top10 markets at Global #BoxOffice:

#US & #Canada 331.2M
#UK 35.2M
#Mexico 22.7M
#Brazil 16M
#Australia 15.4M
#France 14.7M
#Spain 9.5M
#China 8.9M
#Germany 7M
#India 6.9M

Specially strong in LatAm, already beating #ManOfSteel’s entire run in both #Brazil & #Mexico

X · Aug 10, 2025, 4:28 PM

[bold basin]

Same with the cavil comparisons

I guess because they all just look like superman but not so alike at the same time

From rough memory i guess people could feel that

[opal fog]

Tbf I kinda thought it was Henry Cavill when Ultra man took off the mask

But I think cause I kept seeing pics of Henry with the messy hair

[cedar ermine]

Now thats a name i havent heard in a long time....

and yeah seasons 1-5 are peak

6 and 7 are controversial, some love them some dont

8-10 is absolute peak

after that its pretty meh all around

[runic thunder]

I remember in Season 8 they redesigned the characters to look more like the Ninjago movie versions

And recast Lloyd imo for the better

[cedar ermine]

yeah that was jarring for me as a day 1 fan but ive come to enjoy the newer designs

[cedar ermine]

sometimes i still miss the old va but i understand why they did it

[wind adder]

What was Peacemaker’s issue with Superman?💀 He also trashed him in the TV show.

[finite oracle]

I thought it was Brendan Fraser

Like they CGI face swapped him

Even sounded like him from the Mummy days.

[finite oracle]

There’s a part in this where he breaks from the declaration rant and looks at the camera and says, “really dude?”. He thinks they’re elitists for having no kill rules.

[wind adder]

The irony is that Peacemaker is trying hard to be a hero. Which will be explored in S2.

[glass meteor]

Can't wait for Peacemaker S02

[stone turret]

eyyy peacemaker season 2 premieres on my next payday so i'll be able to afford an hbo max subscription

[tame tangle]

didnt he get shot? in the voicebox?

[finite oracle]

I’m trying to buy the steelbook to this

It’s sold out already

T-T

[craggy pawn]

I guess you didn't watch peacemaker season 1

[tame tangle]

was that before or after suicide squad 2?

[craggy pawn]

After James Gunn TSS, it is fantastic

[tame tangle]

ah, wasnt sure on the chonology there.

[craggy pawn]

Ah

[rustic yacht]

https://fxtwitter.com/jamesgunn/status/1955284087406534709

James Gunn (@JamesGunn)

#Superman is coming to your homes this Friday, 8/15. Available now for pre-order. Or catch it while it's still in theaters!

**💬 5 🔁 11 ❤️ 60 👁️ 300 **

▶ Play video

FxTwitter · Aug 12, 2025, 3:03 PM

[finite oracle]

Buying it

[craggy pawn]

It's coming on digital early?? I thought the date was August 26th

[thick arch]

Same

[craggy pawn]

That's good news

[wind adder]

https://x.com/hollywoodhandle/status/1955284727771869264?s=46&t=_AWFhpIAIwbUeGd6RdGh0A

The Hollywood Handle (@HollywoodHandle)

‘SUPERMAN’ is now set to release on digital platforms on August 15.

• Some VOD retailers were listing the August 26 date

• The film will end its theatrical run by earning $620M-$640M globally on a $225M budget

Read our review: https://t.co/kOa2QatMs8

X · Aug 12, 2025, 3:06 PM

[opal fog]

Wait does this mean on Max or just prime or dvd

[echo kraken]

VOD, meaning paid access on iTunes, YouTube Film and TV, Amazon Prime etc. Max (subscription) usually comes a month or so after, right around the time of Physical releases.

[opal fog]

Ok

[echo kraken]

Yeah it’s the new norm after the pandemic (when they would go directly to Max etc since they couldn’t do a theatrical release). It’s a bit of a squeeze tactic and I don’t personally like it, but it’s what it is.
Theatrical -> about a month to a month and half -> VOD -> about a month -> Physical releases -> same time or up to a month later -> Streaming platforms

[stone turret]

the batman had a 30 day turnaround from theaters to being on hbo max

[echo kraken]

That is just as they are figuring out how to squeeze more from people tho, but yes you’re right

[echo kraken]

It seems that a lot of people either upgraded their home entertainment etc during the pandemic, or simply wanted to save money, that people who missed it in theater are more apt to buy VOD, so it’s more a secondary revenue stream than just selling it as a package to streaming services (especially with streaming services being increasingly part of the film studios, it’s just left hand selling it to the right hand)

[near drum]

thank god for the trunks

[echo kraken]

Yeah it’s one of their fav story to tell in interviews… they’ve both said it in multiple occasions

[echo kraken]

Hahaha what’s with the random loose fit hahahaha

Pattern assembly first fit is always hilarious lol

[opal fog]

This shit is ASS

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-oh-my-god-bruh-saleswoman-oh-my-god-bruh-gif-2398788864743270124

I gotta give the DCEU suit credit for making it actually work somehow

[craggy pawn]

This looks so much weird than the one with trunks

[finite oracle]

Makes it look like a onesie

[wind adder]

https://fxtwitter.com/discussingfilm/status/1955343610636898447?s=46&t=_AWFhpIAIwbUeGd6RdGh0A

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm)

David Corenswet and James Gunn having a debate over the ‘SUPERMAN’ monologue on set.

**💬 272 🔁 3.4K ❤️ 50.4K 👁️ 2.35M **

▶ Play video

FxTwitter · Aug 12, 2025, 7:00 PM

[craggy pawn]

https://youtu.be/a5dOvnWVYB4?si=LHDdg_GeGTEeU9Fo

Behind the scenes on Superman.. can't wait to watch this

[echo kraken]

It’s a pattern fit, it’s not even fully sewn up lol… I wouldnt fixate on that

[safe geode]

just something to break up all the blue, I like the yellow belt concept

[glass meteor]

Yeah, the trunks are needed. He looks a bit fat here though

[safe geode]

fat shaming superman, wow

[fallen solar]

like, it's an unfinished costume

but I agree, all that blue doesn;'t look good

[bold basin]

https://x.com/reza_shuaib/status/1956036138168107212?s=46&t=7u0KO0emO0wr79MmAZNKlw

Reza (@Reza_shuaib)

David Corenswet's Superman in DCU so far.

X · Aug 14, 2025, 4:52 PM

[tame tangle]

so apparently, brave and the bold batman has Damian for a robin.

[opal fog]

Yes

[craggy pawn]

Ya we knew that before, that's an interesting choice

[tame tangle]

I didnt. So here's another batman with mileage we dont get to see.

These two better argue. i want damian to be a little wiseass.

would be nice if the other robins were aknowledged.

[terse rain]

Watching Superman in HDR HD is so great cause it makes me really appreciate how well the CG is integrated

[unreal widget]

I mean of course if you're not gonna add a belt or lines to breakup that section, it will look like pajamas. There's a way to do it without trunks, but I like it with too

That doesn't even look like the finished suit

[stone turret]

yeah in the ac tual video it says this was just the very first fitting

so the suit was still being developed

i think it is absolutely possible to make the suit work without trunks, but i personally think superman should always have trunks

[wind adder]

Superman is available on digital.

[rustic yacht]

https://imgur.com/8yZT3OY

[static canopy]

It's an interesting choice

[glass meteor]

Isn't Damian Nightwing?

[static canopy]

Nightwing is Dick Grayson, the first Robin.

[tame tangle]

which may or may not exist in this universe.

[wind adder]

He would

[wind adder]

Source?

[finite oracle]

Time to buy Superman

[wind adder]

It says “explores members of the Bat-Family”

Grayson is definitely in the movie

I would be surprised if Nightwing doesn’t get a solo film.

[tame tangle]

here's hoping.

[craggy pawn]

If it can be made in low budget then Nightwing movie can happen imo

Or maybe a nightwing and Red hood movie

[tame tangle]

there was a live action titans show made that wasnt too bad.

[craggy pawn]

I agree, I didn't finish it though. The actor who portrayed Nightwing was fantastic.

[tame tangle]

i was iffy about live action starfire, but she kinda grew on me, strangely enough.

[rustic yacht]

https://fxtwitter.com/jamesgunn/status/1956375616560791684

James Gunn (@JamesGunn)

Get #Superman on digital today!

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FxTwitter · Aug 15, 2025, 3:21 PM

[tame tangle]

be a minute before netflix gets it...

[finite oracle]

I got my friend to watch it, and he never cared for Superman. He loves it! We binged Peacemaker in preparation for season 2!!!

https://tenor.com/view/rage-emoji-rage-gif-3851471549750385303

Now is this a legit timeline?

I know they are not going to the Authority.

[craggy pawn]

Ya Authority is on hold for now. The rest not sure and the philosophy of Gunn is if the script is great he will okay the project. Also no Wonder woman on this list and that has been fast tracked I believe.

[static canopy]

Who knows... To personal taste I would like to see the whole batfamily adapted

[static canopy]

I love Krypto

https://tenor.com/view/krypto-dance-david-corenswet-superman-2025-krypto-gif-6954670881345029615

[tame tangle]

I'd like to see Antony hopkins do Alfred, but i dont think i'll get it.

[static canopy]

It would be funny to see Hannibal as Alfred

[tame tangle]

We.ve had voldemort as alfred. once.

Also Gollum and Hans Gruber's brother.

[glass meteor]

A bit too much

[near drum]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DCU_/comments/1mr3rml/craig_gilespie_talks_about_james_gunns_approach/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

can't wait

[static canopy]

Everything can be

[bold basin]

https://vxtwitter.com/cquill97/status/1956372879638954295?s=46

ClarkQuill97 (@CQuill97)

This little nod and smile has been living in my head for a while and it's all David's performance. You see how happy and relieved he is that all the people inside the building are safe. You really feel that Superman LOVES people and he loves saving them.

QRT: dcorenswetgifs
david corenswet in superman

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vxTwitter / fixvx • GIF · Aug 15, 2025, 3:10 PM

[opal fog]

That feeling when you finally get to watch your favorite movie of the summer in HD

[finite oracle]

HELL YEA

[craggy pawn]

Watching the reaction of this movie on YouTube.. it is fun

[wind adder]

This is one of the dumbest lore changes in the history of CBMs.

[static canopy]

I like change, it gives more weight to him doing good even when his parents sent him to conquer

[austere stream]

Yeah i really like the change a lot

[craggy pawn]

Same, works perfectly in the movie and enhances character of Superman even more.

[fallen solar]

I mean, this is how you give Superman internal conflict.

[stone turret]

i thought the change was super brilliant when i watched the movie, it really drives the themes of the movie home

and i am so sick of people saying the message was fake or AI or something because that would literally invalidate the entire point of the movie

it would be no worse than if superman 2 started by revealing that the entire first movie was just a dream

[tame tangle]

I dont think its a rule that Jor-El absolutely has to be benevolent.

heck, even Superman doesent have to be benevolent, ever heard of injustice? Red Son? The Ubermench?

things have to be switched up a little from time to time.

[short fulcrum]

my opinion didnt change after the viewing from last night. still an eh movie, even after reading allstar superman. the main inspiration to the movie.

too much "problems" happening and not enough time to care for even one because another one will be thrown at superman at anytime which making the previous problem not matter as much as the one thats being dealt with on the screen

and the reaction from people praising it makes it seem like they just like seeing superman on the screen and doing superman things. its like they just mashed up a complete season of the animated show into a 2 hr movie.

[cedar ermine]

It makes sense though. It works well in truly separating this superman, as well as really hammering home that he is the way he is because he chooses to be, not because hes supposed to be

[cedar ermine]

Isnt this what people should want?

Superman being superman?

[wind adder]

What are you even saying?

[cedar ermine]

Words

[wind adder]

“It works well in truly separating his Superman as well as really hammers home”
I lost some brain cells reading this.

[cedar ermine]

Fucking autocorrect

I'll fix it

[short fulcrum]

just want dangling keys on the screen with the superman logo on it

[cedar ermine]

Yes, yes I do

[short fulcrum]

people got mad at F4 cause there was only 2 fight scenes

like wtf

[cedar ermine]

Some people found it not as interesting because oof the lack of action, which I agree with. It was still a great movie though

We just didnt see much of their powers for most of the film

But it did great at showcasing the family aspect of the team

[short fulcrum]

micheal bay needs to comeback and just have a movie with explosions to entertain bordem

[cedar ermine]

Sometimes you want cokplex emotionally driven films, other times you want michael bay

[short fulcrum]

thats called youtube videos

https://tenor.com/view/skibidi-toilet-gif-12244089540534721307

[cedar ermine]

What's wrong with films that are just for fun and Enjoyment rather than being deep?

I agree we dont just need brainless slop

[wind adder]

I need to rewatch it, but my opinion probably wouldn’t change. The issues are too glaring.

[short fulcrum]

theres no focus.

whats the MAIN problem in the movie

the main plot

[cedar ermine]

Superman's identity crisis due to the mesaage

[short fulcrum]

COOL but thats just the first quarter of the film. you got lex you got the world rift you got political war you got double superman you got stuck in another dimesion jail

they bring it back at the final final section of the film like its reminding you THIS IS STILL A THING

[cedar ermine]

I'd argue hes dealing with ot the whole film but yeah it is Jam packed

[cedar ermine]

Yeah that's fair

[wind adder]

Superman was a brainless slop and the scene in my pfp is proof of it. The Donner films were much more elegant and had some class.

[cedar ermine]

You mean the 1 second freeze frame?

Not gonna argue that it's better than donner, but cmon

That's a crappy criticism

[wind adder]

It’s not the frame that’s the problem. The entire scene was

[cedar ermine]

The fight in the stadium?

[short fulcrum]

the problem to me is connected to that one bts clips of Gunn telling superman that it doesnt matter if its good or bad about the way it feels. it matters that it exists and you feel this way.

BUT YOU FEEL THIS WAY AT THE BEGINNING AND AT THE END OF THE FILM

NOT IN BETWEEN BECAUSE YOURE IN THE JAIL HALF OF THE FILM

[wind adder]

The humour was overdone and it made the serious situations look ridiculous.

[cedar ermine]

I feel like it was a decent balance, superman has always been lighthearted. (Dceu excluded)

[short fulcrum]

as a ny-er i cant give any fuks if you feel a certain way or not. what is your purpose. whats your motivation. if you feel some way now, youre gonna feel someway later on in the movie. WHICH HE DID

[cedar ermine]

I totally respect your opinion

You have a lot of valid criticisms

I just disagree, not because you are wrong, but because they didnt negativly impact my experience of it

[short fulcrum]

its doesnt have to be deep. thats not what im looking at. its has to be structured. like ok his MAIN problem is his identity.. would it have been better if the way of proving youre not your parents vision or ideas is doing stuff that looks good in the public eye

[wind adder]

There’s a difference between being lighthearted and outright goofy

[short fulcrum]

dude didnt fight a monster because the gang got it

[cedar ermine]

Yeah it definitely is a bit loosely structured

[cedar ermine]

True but that line is normally dependent on the person's pov

[wind adder]

Even Donner Superman movies weren’t anywhere this goofy and those films released during Silver Age period.

[cedar ermine]

Some people find it goofy others find it endearing

[short fulcrum]

if anything, the public in the film would love the justice gang MORE than superman by the way it ended

also, i find it funny that the CITY didnt care if they were save by superman or justice gang or anyone by that matter. BUT the 3rd world country would rather be save by superman and was surprised that the justice gang arrive

what does that say huh

[cedar ermine]

Justice gang are incredibly corporate?

Aren't they funded by lord as well?

[short fulcrum]

doesnt matter to the public eye

saving a life is saving a life

[cedar ermine]

True

[wind adder]

That was another issue. The Justice Gang didn’t need to be in this movie aside Mr Terrific. It’s like Gunn can’t make a movie without team ups.

[cedar ermine]

I think it was just to show other heres exist in the universe already and establish they've been there for a while

[short fulcrum]

if the main hero is superman then why are the people in the film looking to be saved by anyone other than superman

[wind adder]

Superman should’ve been the one who saved Jahranpur. A name drop would’ve been more than sufficient.

[short fulcrum]

YUP and rather than sticking him to a cactus he placed them in the hands of the army. WOW A BETTER DECISION THAT MAKES HIM A BETTER PERSON

[wind adder]

Also, Ultraman just turned out to be a dumb clone controlled by Lex.

[cedar ermine]

Hes probably going to become bizarro

A lot of people are speculating that anyway

[short fulcrum]

yeah, after the second viewing, after reading allstar superman. bizarro could have been better. cause bizarro isnt stupid, hes just backwards

[cedar ermine]

he becomes backwards due to the effects of the blackhole or something

That's the theory I've been seeing anyway

[safe geode]

Superman sucks according to Alex

[wind adder]

Who?

[stone turret]

that was my theory while watching

i wouldnt be surprised if that blackhole took him to some other dimension or something

it would be cool if it took him to a parallel "bizarro" earth and he then became the superman of that earth

[stone turret]

i truly think it is amazing how james gunn has taken lesser known characters and allowed them to shine

like there are lots of people whose favorite marvel characters are the guardians of the galaxy, when just 15 years ago most people didnt even know who they were

there are people whose favorite dc character is frickin PEACEMAKER, or mr terrific, or metamorpho, all because of james gunn

i think that is such a great thing

some of my favorite marvel characters are lesser known characters (like the sentry) so its always a treat when these characters are done justice in live action

[tame tangle]

or Judomaster.

[stone turret]

or vigilante

[tame tangle]

or bloodsport

[craggy pawn]

Ya, love Gunn shining light on lesser known DC characters

[tame tangle]

not sure if these guys are really in the comics tho, xcept for PM and harley quin and polkadot dude.

and killer shark

[finite oracle]

Makes for a more interesting narrative for Kara as now Supes will have some reservations against Kryptonian misunderstandings, for all we know her family will think differently but we’ll see.

[finite oracle]

I’ll contest to Red Son as that story is him being benevolent but mixed with political ideology as his nurturing agent.

His largest flaw in that comic was the fact that his ideology got in the way of the ideal man of tomorrow by becoming an authoritarian figure that creates a surveillance state to stop malpractice against the statist society. Braniac also manipulates Superman into thinking he became complacent and also influenced the tech to instill docile Nuralink machines onto people which is what Batman didn’t want to be. It’s the only thing that stopped him from being our Superman and even then by the end it took a sentence to break him, “why don’t you put the world in a bottle” which was what happened to new Stalingrad by Braniac. Never was exactly an evil figure in that, he just had a flawed misconception of what it takes to fix humanity. When I say misunderstood I don’t mean it as in Disney standards but rather his actions early on were Supes helping around the world to help it from blowing itself up.

By comparison Lex kills his scientists, creates bizarro, makes a satellite crash on earth deliberately to UK, R&D funding for unethical experiments, and becomes president because of his obsession with Superman. It’s the same excuse he’s been saying where he feels humanity is threaten but really it’s his legacy: his ego.

If anything it’s the same issues both Supes and Lex face just in different teams. It’s similar to the ending of All Star Superman where post “death” of Superman led to Lex becoming the ideal leader for humanity looking for a better tomorrow using elements of Braniac and Superman ideologies.

Red Son was my first Superman and it got everything right about him.

Great little elseworld tale.

The Red Son Movie made an interesting choice to laser Stalin but it makes his actions a bit more villainous.

[wind adder]

Superman has to be benevolent. Evil Superman clones are just bad writing.

[finite oracle]

Also low bar when it comes to story ideas for him.

I’ll never understand Injustice Luthor giving a nuke to Joker.

That’s more like something the joker would do to Harley

[wind adder]

Injustice is just Temu Kingdom Come

[finite oracle]

Yea… injustice 2 skins look cool.

Also didn’t 1 have Amazonian vs Atlantans too?

[finite oracle]

Anyone seen the making of Superman bts?

[stone turret]

i've seen a few clips

[finite oracle]

The storyboard art drawn by him reminds me of my stick guys.

[wind adder]

Kingdom Come Superman is the best alternate iteration of the character, and even his aggression was justified in the heat of the moment.

[finite oracle]

Alex Ross art is

[wind adder]

Dude posting the whole movie

[unreal widget]

[fallen solar]

why all the spam?

[unreal widget]

idk im watching it and posting the cool shots

dont mean to spam

[wind adder]

You’re posting the whole movie dude lol

[glass meteor]

Yeah, those snapshots were a bit too much.

[finite oracle]

Rip to OG Zod

Aka Chancellor Valorum (Terrence Stamp)

[wind adder]

https://tenor.com/view/zod-kneel-before-zod-super-man2-yell-gif-8663299

[finite oracle]

In 3 Days

https://tenor.com/view/krypto-dance-david-corenswet-superman-2025-krypto-gif-6954670881345029615

https://tenor.com/view/peacemaker-eagly-bald-eagle-dceu-dc-comics-gif-24884517

[unreal widget]

I found the perfect painful image to respond to someone being annoying

[craggy pawn]

Guy is quite creative right??

[unreal widget]

yeah

[unreal widget]

bruh im high of shots rn

[craggy pawn]

You posted the whole movie here via pictures hehe

[craggy pawn]

So many great shots as well

[unreal widget]

yeah

its so good

[craggy pawn]

This was quite a scene ya

[unreal widget]

theyre full of emotion too

even the empty ones are cool

Krypto 😂 😂😂😂

[stone turret]

this movie is so gorgeous

[craggy pawn]

Yes it is

[unreal widget]

The flares man

Probably gonna end up doing this w F4 aswell

[distant bloom]

I don't like admitting this but I think I liked Man of Steel more

[distant bloom]

Superman himself was much better in this movie but the constant silliness and low-stakes vibe and the weaker action kind of put me off

I feel like Man of Steel did more things wrong, but the highs were also higher. Comic fans will probably love this one because it feels more faithful but it was kind of hard to care about anything going on except for Clark himself

[distant bloom]

Its not bad by any means but probably the weakest James Gunn movie I've seen

[unreal widget]

kryptos a horror freak

[finite oracle]

https://youtube.com/shorts/dfzgbhYgZss?si=zLJ6sjZ_Cheh-EVZ

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-han-solo-huh-the-force-awakens-harrison-ford-gif-26563137

[distant bloom]

Feel like the light tone they went with was too much of a course correction and it ended up feeling like there wasn't much danger

like even when a Kaiju was rampaging and when a dimensional rift is swallowing the city its just kind of like "oh no, some buildings are getting messed up"

Didn't really feel like it mattered or was a big deal

Maybe thats what Superman comics are like? I've never really read them

[finite oracle]

I just think the movie acted more like a Saturday morning cartoon.

[distant bloom]

Even the WB Superman cartoon felt like it had more seriousness though

and stakes

Superman and Lex were perfect in this movie but lots of the other stuff just didnt work for me

[distant bloom]

which is surprising to me, I normally love James Gun movies

[unreal widget]

its fine to like both, this movies getting better the more i watch it

i had a mid letterbox review at first

better than mid

but the more i see it, I get chills

[distant bloom]

I gave both of them a 3/5

[unreal widget]

3.5

like i don't like jor-el's hologram its fine for this movie, and bradley fit less in this for me

wouldve preferred someone like peter cullen or maybe someone else

I also feel like james gunn rushes scenes.

[finite oracle]

It’s more of a Max Fletcher Superman reference

The Kaiju that is

[finite oracle]

Even him trying to stop a falling building on a car was a homage to the golden age cartoon.

It’s more in line with what I knew Superman, i guess the course correction wasn’t as noticeable as i had binged my golden age collection books for a few years and just stuck to those as my comics. Behind the scenes stuff sold me the sincerity about this one. I really love this one.

[distant bloom]

I was fine with the kaiju I just wish it felt like it was actually a major danger and not an excuse for a big silly action scene

When I heard the kaiju scene was inspired by Godzilla Minus One I got excited, but it had nothing close to that vibe

It felt very "Marvel"ish

Also having him fight another Kryptonian for the big bad just reminded me of Man of Steel, and the guy being a clone of him just reminded me of Logan. Like it went out of its way to be so different from other superhero movies in many ways but then just did some of the exact same plot beats

[stone turret]

which is 100% a good thing

[finite oracle]

The clone thing is using the same plot from Superman IV Quest for Piece, Lex uses a strand of Supes hair. It’s a revamp of that while also somehow similar looking to Man of Steel’s Zod goons with Ultra and the Engineer.

[distant bloom]

Didnt work for me

[finite oracle]

Oh I’m in favor of it, sets the tone for the world but also I really love the way how the world is set up. Reminds me a lot of Star Wars Episode 4, while that had a great Alec Guinness lore dump moment, the movie’s Lois and Clark scene with the monster and John’s cameo makes that universe much larger than just being Superman.

[glass meteor]

I haven't seen every James Gunn movie but I did like Guardians of the Galaxy movies more and The Suïcide Squad. Peacemaker Season 1 is for the best. I found Superman a 3 out of 5 stars movie, same as Man of Steel but for different reasons

[distant bloom]

Yeah about the same for me

Even though ultimately I preferred Man of Steel its by a VERY small amount, not enough to change the rating

[glass meteor]

Christopher Nolan worked on Man of Steel too didn't he?

[distant bloom]

Think he was a producer