#šŸ“ŗ Severance S2

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wintry sinew
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They’re a bit scattered rn

wraith sable
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You mean the one security guard? šŸ˜…

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Even the stairwell would be flooded with them

wintry sinew
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I mean the head of security

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Babes you gotta watch shows with your eyes open

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But also, I would say

wraith sable
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Head of security

wintry sinew
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I think squabbling over plot minutiae that may well be addressed after the cliffhanger

wraith sable
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Where’s the security then šŸ˜‚

wintry sinew
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Is really uninteresting

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I’d much rather talk about what the show is actually trying to say or do

wraith sable
wintry sinew
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With Innie Mark’s ā€˜rebellion’

wraith sable
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If they had decent security

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Mark would’ve never accomplished his goal

wintry sinew
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Turning his outtie into a hostage

wintry sinew
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It’s not important

wraith sable
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Yeah I think it’s a stronger ending to S1

wintry sinew
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Character and story are more interesting than security admin lol

wraith sable
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I agree

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I’m just saying it bumped me

slim spade
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i just like for things to make sense is all. when senseless things happens it tends to pull me out of whatever im watching a bit. like if Mark suddenly starts flying next episode, if its unexplained, ill have a problem with it

wintry sinew
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I think the conversation between the two Marks at the top of the episode is one of my favourite sequences in the show so far

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Adam Scott really did a great job emphasising the differences between them - the Outtie is the Innie’s whole universe, while the reverse couldn’t be less true

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I’ve enjoyed the show’s pivot from ā€˜corporate workplaces are bad’ into a broader point about how we turn a blind eye to exploited workers

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Outtie Mark’s lack of empathy has resulted in him becoming a hostage

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In what I assume will be a strike storyline

wraith sable
round narwhal
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I’m really interested in what they could do for the next season

agile patio
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wheres the imdb rating of this episode?

near gulch
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i hope season 3 isn't gonna take 3 years again

near gulch
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that's how season 3 will begin and ellie will replace gemma?

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idk about that

round narwhal
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Yeah, I could see that

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low coral
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Mark Scout>Mark .S

empty kettle
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joining thread

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Lower confirms that it's Helly in the finale

agile patio
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The show wants to be Lynchian so badšŸ’€

wintry sinew
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The show has nothing in common with Lynch’s work

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It’s closer to Douglas Adams

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Terry Gilliam at a big push

empty kettle
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yeah idk how you could even make a serious comparison in approach between the two

errant rune
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Wow

lime flint
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Finishing severance finale rn

mossy spire
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Great ending to the season

lime flint
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I havent finished it

mossy spire
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Anything yet

slim spade
next sierra
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At that point near the end there was so much conflict || it felt like Helly should have said Mark I love you, you just go with your beloved wife, so there seems like an egoistical inaction saying nothing and leading him on to stay on her part, altho it was also Mark's decision, but the reality is that she may actually be altruistic for wanting Mark to stay to help fight for all the other innies not leaving them behind, btw when that guy said "they will all die" before the elevator closes might be referred to the innies even tho at first I thought it was about the Eagan lineage but we'll see||

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The finale was kind of ... Heh

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I'm perfectly ok

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Devon and Harmony supposedly made a plan while we were left out

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Yes.

slim spade
next sierra
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Idk but judging from Jame Eagan who has got a personality thinner than a sheet of toilet paper, well 🤷

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slim spade
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lack of security just seems like a bit of a contrivance, but they may explain it next season. like the episode overall, thats really my only problem with it

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and its minor

next sierra
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I'm gonna cope with Frank Castle

slim spade
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Mark killing the walrus man cause he switched over in the elevator and didnt know hed be holding a gun was pretty awesome

next sierra
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Better this way than for that guy to take over Mark again

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I could see the deep sadness and realization of death in Mark's eyes

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When strangled

slim spade
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sure, its just nice to see innie mark make mistakes due to his age. he didnt seem to even think that when he changed over in the elevator the gun might go off

next sierra
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Mark and Helly talking about Delaware and other places
Mark and Gemma ||breaking up||
The fights and the fights again
This surely was an episode about being conflicted

slim spade
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im betting next season Helly convinces Jame to let her and Mark have their outties bodies full time

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which would kinda suck as Marks outtie isnt a bad person

glad meteor
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Oh my god what a way to end the season

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Also yessss Gwendolyn Christie 😁

twin swift
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Loved the finale even though major questions still remain like Why was Gemma singled out and how did Lumon fake her death?? I'm still not exactly sure about purpose of Cold harbor and this stuff about barrier like, Gemma is in that room but then what's the grand plan here??

This season also cements the fact that innies and outies are two very distinct personalities and the conversation at that cabin was really fascinating. I do wonder, if innie Mark and Helly have a plan at the end when we know Lumon can switch their consciousness.

wraith sable
twin swift
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Ya, it was still very much fun but full questions weren't answered from the beginning.

wraith sable
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I had fun with it I'm just getting sick and tired of them not answering questions - like exactly we have no clue wtf the purpose of Cold Harbor is

glad meteor
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I loved the episode but yes I agree they still have more questions to answer in season 3

twin swift
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We finally get what Mark was doing with MDR and it was related to emotions but what is cold harbor and its purpose.

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Gemma is gonna die once cold harbor is completed but what does that mean and a goat is involved too who is gonna be killed..

last glade
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they'll answer our questions eventually

twin swift
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Ya but you can only wait so long

misty fjord
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milchick was able to get out only because helly r wasnt there to hold the door

wintry sinew
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They explained it in Episode 7 and then they did it again in Episode 10

oak timber
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I thought milchick was about to revolt because they keep ripping on his big words šŸ˜‚

last glade
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soon....

twin swift
limpid ingot
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It's a fairly apt representation of how working for American corporations seems.

limpid ingot
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Just. Ugh.

slim spade
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use brave browser. i get no ads on that page

limpid ingot
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I use Firefox, which has been extensioned to 'eck. But it's just so frustrating that this is now the standard

slim spade
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we live under corporate rule. sucks for anyone who isnt the head of a corporation

limpid ingot
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I'd say they're all scrabbling to figure out how to monetise ai search

wraith sable
wintry sinew
wraith sable
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They showed you Cold Harbor

wintry sinew
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No

wraith sable
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I wouldn’t say they explained its purpose

wintry sinew
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They explained it in Episode 7

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Lol

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We know exactly what it is and have known for weeks

wraith sable
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Even Dan Erickson said they were purposefully vague about it

wintry sinew
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Sure, but we know what it is

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We don't know what they'll do with the tech

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But we know what the tech is, what Gemma's role was and how it worked

wraith sable
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We don’t know why Gemma was chosen

wintry sinew
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That's a different question

wraith sable
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We don’t know anything about Gemma in relation to Lumon

wintry sinew
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That's not Cold Harbor

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That's Gemma

wraith sable
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What is Cold Harbor

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Explain it in one sentence

wintry sinew
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We know that Cold Harbor is the final test in a series of experiments investigating whether or not a severed chip can truly suppress traumatic memories. Gemma has been severed 24 times and forced to undergo scenarios ranging from unpleasant to traumatic, testing whether or not these feelings and memories seep into her Outie or other Innies.

Cold Harbor, the final test, is about reassembling the crib meant to hold the baby she miscarried. The test is whether or not she would remember that, and it seems that she doesn't. This proves that the severed chip does lead to total separation, and can therefore be marketed as a product to prevent people having to experience uncomfortable or painful elements of their life (i.e. bumpy flights, writing thank you cards, grieving a child).

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Most of this was explained in Episode 7. Episode 10 just reveals that the last test was grief.

wraith sable
wintry sinew
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Exactly.

wraith sable
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So we always knew it led to total separation

wintry sinew
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That's the whole point

wraith sable
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Then I guess Cold Harbor serves no purpose lol

wintry sinew
wraith sable
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Yes we did

wintry sinew
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Ms Cobel very explicitly clarifies this in the episode lol

wraith sable
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Otherwise Mark S would’ve remembered

wintry sinew
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Dude you gotta pay more attention

wraith sable
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I don’t care what she clarifies it doesn’t track

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Cold Harbor tackles grief

wintry sinew
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The numbers that Mark logs are the coding for his own severance chip. Every set of "bad numbers" makes him think of Gemma, that's the point.

wraith sable
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Mark S forgot he was grieving so did Gemma

wintry sinew
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He's refining his chip to remove all repressed, subconscious feelings of Gemma

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Ms Cobel tells us this

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The numbers are Gemma

wraith sable
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I understand she’s the numbers

wintry sinew
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Mark is as much a part of the test as Gemma

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They're refining the Severance chips to remove even the most buried memories or emotions

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In macrodata refinement

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The name of Mark's division has told us this from the start lol

wraith sable
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So it didn’t work for Mark did it šŸ˜‚

wintry sinew
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Yes it did

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It worked completely lol

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Who did he choose at the end?

wraith sable
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His innie

wintry sinew
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What?

wraith sable
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He would’ve always chosen his Innie

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Sorry Helly

wintry sinew
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Yeah

wraith sable
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He would’ve always chosen Helly

wintry sinew
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Yes

wraith sable
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I just don’t buy that he refined jack shit

wintry sinew
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Ok

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That's like saying you don't buy that severance chips could exist lol

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It's the sci-fi technobabble of the show

wraith sable
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No

wintry sinew
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It's not story, it's background plot

wraith sable
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It’s just that the actions don’t reflect it

wintry sinew
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You're nitpicking over the wrong things here

wraith sable
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Ok here’s a situation

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If the thing hadn’t been fully refined, Mark would’ve immediately known Casey was Gemma

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But he obviously didn’t put two and two together until he sees the photograph

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So I don’t buy that Cold Harbor served a purpose

thorn ingot
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SEVERANCE

wintry sinew
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But I also don't really care

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Cos it isn't what's interesting about the show lol

wraith sable
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It it doesn’t šŸ˜…

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Can you refute what I just said

wintry sinew
wraith sable
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They clearly don’t have a plan

wintry sinew
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Lumon's unknowable cult schemes aren't remotely as interesting as the implications of the Innie and Outtie scenario they've created

wintry sinew
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Bro

wraith sable
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I bought into the decision but it was spontaneous

wintry sinew
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You have to stop trying to solve a drama lmao

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"Objectively there is no plan. It was a bad idea. Narratively it is illogical. No plan, no payoff. What is Cold Harbor anyway?"

wraith sable
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I wouldn’t be this annoyed if some people didn’t genuinely consider this one of the best shows ever made

wintry sinew
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(read this in your worst Trump voice)

wraith sable
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Like I’m sorry

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It PALES in comparison with Breaking Bad

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I’m just naming a random show

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That runs circles around Severance

wintry sinew
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Which is the Innie/Outie dichotomy

wraith sable
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Sure I agree

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I def think Breaking Bad is one of the best

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As do most people

wintry sinew
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We're all complicit in the "out of sight, out of mind" attitude towards exploited workers and communities around the world

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Severance is just bringing that same cognitive dissonance to our doorstep

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The technicalities don't matter at all

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It's an interesting piece of art

wintry sinew
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Do you want to be a consensus guy lol

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Breaking Bad is really good, it's a great thriller with some of the best performances in all of telly

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But it's not the best

wraith sable
wraith sable
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Better Call Saul is another example!

wintry sinew
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Better Call Saul is better yeah

wraith sable
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I think it’s more consistent

wintry sinew
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Tbh

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I typed out a list

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But really it's just a case that there is no "best show ever"

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There's like a top tier of 50 or so

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Breaking Bad is in there

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But you could make the case for basically any of them

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Severance isn't on that list but it's also barely started

wraith sable
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I haven’t seen most old shows

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Like I’ve never seen The Wire or Sopranos

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I saw the sopranos pilot and it bored me

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I wanna watch Oz but there’s no HD version

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Fleabag and I May Destroy You are up there

wintry sinew
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I would say, if there was to be a list of The Greats, it'd need to have:

  • Atlanta
  • Better Call Saul
  • Breaking Bad
  • Chernobyl
  • Fawlty Towers
  • Fleabag
  • Girls
  • Hannibal
  • I Claudius
  • I May Destroy You
  • Industry
  • The Leftovers
  • Mad Men
  • Mr Robot
  • Queer As Folk
  • The Sopranos
  • Succession
  • The Thick Of It
  • Twin Peaks
  • The Wire
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But there are a ton of honourable mentions too lol

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I probs wouldn't get very far trying to rank these at all

wintry sinew
wraith sable
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Hannibal is my all time favorite

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I haven’t seen a lot of those

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Some of my favorites (and ones I'd also include):

  • Sharp Objects
  • Utopia
  • The Missing
  • Baby Reindeer
  • Adolescence
  • Shogun (I know the three of them are recent, but they're some of the best TV I've ever seen)
  • When they See Us
  • The Underground Railroad
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I feel like a lot of people would include Oz, The Shield, Mad Men, etc

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Also no comedies (my favorite comedies are Nathan for You, The Inbetweeners, and Eastbound and Down)

wintry sinew
wintry sinew
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I totally forgot The Underground Railroad, pop that on mine as well

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Unbelievable show, should've been seen around the world

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I'll allow Shogun, even if I didn't gel with it as much as some

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misty fjord
lime flint
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Just realized that the egg helena split has so much meaning 😭😭

next sierra
lime flint
next sierra
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Everything in the show has a meaning, Dan Erickson even said it himself

next sierra
next sierra
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Ew

lime flint
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I STARTED LAUGHING WHEN HE SAID FUCK

next sierra
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Lol yeah

lime flint
next sierra
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šŸ‘† Privileges

next sierra
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Anyway season 3 imo is gonna be:

round narwhal
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Milchick dashing only to be late for the cue still has me laughing

manic herald
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Still fucking WEIRD tho

slim spade
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yeah, the wish for her to eat em raw was weird, but i think it was weirder that he just sat there eating nothing and watching her eat... like why lol

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also, the 1st thing Mark and Helly need to do in season 3 is whisper code words to each other so they know for a fact who is who

lime flint
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Dichen lachman is in shameless??

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How did i not know this

last glade
lime flint
last glade
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Ironically the ones that seem brainwashed are not severed

lime flint
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And also taking our fine shyt dichen lachman away šŸ’”

last glade
lime flint
spring gulch
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@mild leaf

manic herald
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I think Cold Harbor was actually testing Mark and it succeeded

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Mark left his wife of many years to be with Helly

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If that’s not a sign of the barriers holding I don’t know what is

next sierra
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Don't mind the gif caption, wrong one facepalm

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errant rune
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Get this man an Emmy!

last glade
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severance sweep

limpid ingot
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It was to make an unthinkable workforce who just complies

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I don't think it has anything to do with grief

wintry sinew
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And why was every other room designed around discomfort or pain

limpid ingot
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He even said, "without thinking"

wintry sinew
wintry sinew
limpid ingot
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It's nothing to do with grief

wintry sinew
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The point is that she has no emotional attachment to it after being severed lol

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It literally only has to do with grief

limpid ingot
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It's to create a person who will work without question

wintry sinew
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Why is it the same crib that was built for the baby she lost?

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And why is every other room about a different type of pain?

limpid ingot
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To make people who will do things without thinking

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Do you really think a show that is essentially "corporate bad" will have a company that cares about grief

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It's all about creating the perfect worker drone

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An unthinking machine

wintry sinew
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They’re building chips they can sell to sever unpleasant experiences

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You can outsource your pain to an Innie

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That’s the endgame of capitalism

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Paying not to feel

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manic herald
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People are misunderstanding this finale so hard lmao

next sierra
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Well it's nice to have various interpretations

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In the end tho I think we all agree the Eagan are some major dbags
Because they just can

wraith sable
manic herald
wraith sable
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lol what

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What are you trying to prove

manic herald
limpid ingot
errant rune
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Cinema police over here

next sierra
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My mind may be fracturing but - For some reason I was remembering it as Pepe Felicia šŸ‘‹

mild leaf
# next sierra

Me trying to explain my new theory to my fiance because a camera zoomed out a split second faster than other times so you gotta rethink the entire show.

next sierra
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Been there

mild leaf
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Shit was crazy this season though

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wintry sinew
near gulch
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now that severance is over my soul is dull, any recommendation that are similar to this show cause i didn't find any?
technically silo is similar in terms of mystery but severance also has that psychological surreal aspect that silo hasn't

manic herald
wintry sinew
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Tell us your great understanding then lol

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Don’t be condescending unless you can back it up

manic herald
# wintry sinew Tell us your great understanding then lol

In regards to the ending, it’s really pushing the ideas of the moral dilemmas that come with Severance as a concept and the individuality between the innies and outies. Mark has to choose between Gemma, who his outie has been married to for years and Helly, the love of his (short) life. In the end he picks Helly, leaving Gemma behind, proving not only does innie Mark have his own sense of personhood that is completely different than his outies, but the severance barriers are holding so strongly that he would leave behind a woman who his outie cares about so much

wintry sinew
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Except describing the scene

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Well done, you saw the episode and can write a Wikipedia summary

winter nova
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just watched ep 3, man I sure hope they handle it better this time, I dont want to sit through another hughie situation

winter nova
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10 mins in ep5 now, ok, ok this is fine

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ok yeah, big fan of this developement. It was handled really well

limpid ingot
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It's a tv show

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Calm down

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It's a mystery box tv show, which will have many potential ways to read it, which is what is at the heart of all good mystery boxes

wintry sinew
limpid ingot
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The only people who know for sure are the ones who made it

wintry sinew
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Stop trying to police lmao

limpid ingot
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Nah. I'm just pointing out the pointlessness of shooting down every opinion that doesn't match your own

wintry sinew
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I was replying to this

limpid ingot
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It doesn't make good conversation

limpid ingot
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I don't shoot anything down, I go on to explain my opinion of the happening

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Anyway

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It's a tv show

wintry sinew
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You’re picking a fight with the wrong girl

limpid ingot
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You're getting a little too eager ...

wintry sinew
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Idk why

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Maybe you’re lonely

limpid ingot
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It's weird that you think I'm picking a fight and then lead with a personal insult

wintry sinew
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Anyway

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You can go back to talking about the show, just don’t ping me again thanks

limpid ingot
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That's ok, though. You've put me off wanting to converse about this show

near sun
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not trying to be pretentious or anything

near sun
manic herald
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Literally

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God forbid I have an opinion

wintry sinew
winter nova
wintry sinew
wraith sable
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Ouch

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That must’ve hurt his soul

manic herald
wintry sinew
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I misread and now respect u more

next sierra
next sierra
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You know who else thinks the "innie" mind has no real value for the "outie" mind, and thus it can be freely exploited out of any rights regarding the whole person (even tho they may have signed on the legal-term misleading fine print)?

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It may probably be the same kind of entity who thinks it's alright to bury some thoughts deep inside the psyche to the point of forgetting it, leading to consequences as a different sense of reality

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Hey why not just put up a smile

near gulch
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like devs, i've seen the trailer it's so similar to severance

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near gulch
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yeah same with station eleven as well

next sierra
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We got our good share of copium now bergman

near gulch
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i so want that severance vibe again

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i'm addicted now

next sierra
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Btw there is also Yellowjackets but it's got a different setting and plays on mystery in a different way and there are some unneeded scenes to skip, but yeah - and the latest season is kind of a 🤷

next sierra
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Not ready for another rewatch of the Matrix tho (excluding the 4th one that is just a meme)

near gulch
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i loved so much maniac and this station eleven is made by the same director!!

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i wanna watch it

next sierra
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Dichen Lachman (Gemma) was also in Dollhouse, I've read in an article that is quite the same but the preview and the poster for it didn't really get me

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near gulch
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it kinda has the same feeling of the main protagonist being unhappy about his life in a dystopian world

next sierra
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There is a phylosophy behind it that is quite relatable

near gulch
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i recommend maniac, it's a very short series with emma stone

next sierra
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Ah it's that one

near gulch
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yes

near gulch
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near gulch
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yeah sure

next sierra
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Devs + Maniac, I'm in for a treat

Just really not sure about Dollhouse, I'll let that one to the brave ones

near gulch
next sierra
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Imagine waking up from a cryo sleep

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errant rune
deep bison
full trail
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how does adam scott look younger in the GQ interview than in the show lmao

near hedge
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Fluorescent lighting

pale linden
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i hope helly r gets shot next season

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genuinely hate her

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unlike my glorious queen gemma

pale linden
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winston im having a full immortal vs rexsplode comparison rn

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i fucking despise helly r

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genuinely

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i pray she dies next season

slim spade
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you hate her more than Helena?

pale linden
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i hate them both equally

slim spade
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for me innies are too young to hate. theyre basically toddlers

pale linden
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thankfully kids suck so i can hate em

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actually

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i hate helena more

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but helly is fucking trash

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bitch why the fuck u appearing at the worst possible time to take my sunshines happiness away you fucking shower thought existence having beta ass plain as day dressed fucking needle spawn

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shes trash, idgaf if she makes mark s happy

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ms casey can do the same jus give her a chance mark s, trust

slim spade
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so you just love gemma to the degree that anyone who stands in her way of happiness is pure evil?

pale linden
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yes

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absolutely

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idgaf how morally fucked that is i jus wanna see gemma happy, idgaf abt helly r or her feelings

slim spade
# pale linden yes

is that based on anything about her personality or do you just find the actress overtly attractive?

pale linden
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i jus think shes super charming and sweet

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also miss caseys awkward comfort around people was cute

near sun
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gemma >>>>>>>

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helly r <<<<<<<

pale linden
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also if it came down to looks yea gemma sweeps helly

slim spade
pale linden
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mark is the ceo of fumbling istg

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btw winston i didnt thumbs u down

slim spade
pale linden
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i love u 2 much for standing up for ur opinions to thumbs you down

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unless said opinion is defending trap or joker 2

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then i will thumbs you down double hand style

slim spade
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nah, joker 2 is unwatchable. went into it with an open mind, still feel like a musical couldve worked, they just shit the bed

pale linden
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i love u so much

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stay winning winston

slim spade
pale linden
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GLORY TO THE GEMMA NATION

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DOWN WITH HELLY R

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# deep bison

I was thinking about this too and just dismissed my mind telling it "you're so stupid" but damn thanks for bringing this to actual life lmao tomlol

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That gemma is gold, helly is poop sounds like a radicalized thought deep somewhere in the mind - maybe a severance could fix that

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I remember seeing back in the day someone with a picture in their bio saying "I hate everyone equally", long before Severance, it stuck with me because (despite the actual intended meaning by the person) it sounded quite a fair thing to do, to the others and to your own personal mental health

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manic herald
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Idk what else people expected from it

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Not knowing is a bliss

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Which is proper to the current channel

pale linden
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I genuinely hope helly r dies horribly next season

misty fjord
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why put it in store if you wont let people buy it

pale linden
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Its basically just a old school pc with keys missing and a track ball

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It would have to be pretty cheap to buy and even then it would be a bulky addition to someones collection

slim spade
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you must eradicate from your essence childish folly

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This would cost around 150-200€ to build it yourself with raspberry Pi

alpine canyon
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the most Ben Wyatt, Adam Scott has looked in the series

manic herald
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Oh noooo she doesn’t want to die??

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How selfish of her!

clear turret
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sorry I’m late guys but the finale was super yum šŸ˜‹

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pale linden
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i do mind her jus showing up at the end to literally sway mike to her

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meanwhile dylans in the office holding milchick back

sleek plaza
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Oh god what are they doing to Gemma 😭 😭 😭 😭

slim spade
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slim spade
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her pain

maiden river
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Seemed like they were diddling her

slim spade
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just trust in Keir.

maiden river
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What's with all the cute outfits and taking her to roons

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slim spade
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Maniac is what Severance could have been in a different reality, quality show heavily recommended šŸ’Æ

maiden river
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Whats with the birthing cabin

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Is it for birthing eagan kids?

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Or bastards

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Harmony says she's one of jame's when going in w mark

slim spade
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shes been severed 25 times.... she takes up 1/25th of the frame...

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errant rune
slim spade
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i dont think im down for multiple spin offs of Severance. i hate when someone comes up with something good and then decide to turn it into a forever revenue stream... just tell the story and end it