🎥 Deadpool & Wolverine

[half coyote]

Hugh asks if Ryan leaked the Deadpool test footage

[frozen umbra]

Fuck yeah wade is marvel Jesus fr

[frozen umbra]

He said no, but cleverly skirted the question

Pyro manipulates fire, Johnny Storm expel fire as energy AROUND him, according to official literature, he’s normally a strong street level, but can be a planet level when certain conditions are met and when he goes critical.

So yes, Pyro is not ultra strong, but was a natural against Johnny Storm

[tidal saddle]

ah I see

[frozen umbra]

Think of Pyro as a “counterspell” or “power counter” to The Human Torch.

[tidal saddle]

such specific conditions now lol

[frozen umbra]

Right, kryptonite is a pretty lame glowing crystal normally, but WHEEEEEE don’t get it close to Superman.

[tidal saddle]

pretty much lol

[frozen umbra]

I’d think Cassandra Nova knows generally what kind of people TVA would cull into the Void, so is prepped for a few eventualities, and Pyro was specifically in the welcoming committee because she knows Johnny is out there as an insurgent of sorts, to her

But yes, Pyro can make any fire bigger or smaller or take any shape he wants… pretty lame in general lol

[tidal saddle]

speaking of cassandra nova, heard she's awfully psychopathic in the comics

[frozen umbra]

Yes, especially in the New X-Men run, she was the prime villain

This compendium of the first few arcs by Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely comic run is seen very much as a revival in the comics world of the X-Men series

And yeah, a real psycho

She was able to disable Jean Gray and almost took over Xavier’s mind at first appearance.

At least we got the Gambit we wanted…

I might be the only person who was excited by that movie’s announcement back in the day… I read his stuff even before the X-Men animated series

Nicepool is what Ryan Reynolds jokes how he would be if Wade Wilson never got cancer, and and there is a Samurai (not the one with the small arms at the end of that sequence) that would’ve been a version that was what the Fox continuation of the character would’ve been after Wolverine Origins.

No Gwenpool, sadly, but I guess that would’ve required talks to Sony (any version of Gwen Stacy’s character’s movie rights belongs as a package to SpiderMan) and it would’ve been way too much work for the clearing department (who did get us a Batman mention and Furiosa / Mad Max jokes etc, which are probably not that easy in themselves)

Both are Warner IPs, but the timing is probably just right, since they needed the money, and probably wouldn’t have released the rights to use those lines if they didn’t mind making a couple of hundreds of thousands extra dollars off Disney. lol

That has been the whole meta of Marvel comics, since late 80s… Mutants are seen as “replacements” to us, as evolutionary superiors (homo superior in the comics), while all the others including Gods are like “not our replacements or are freak accidents, or special individuals, or (like Asgardians and Atlantians) foreign dignitaries”…. Mutants are GENETIC, and can PASS the X-Gene to their offsprings. That’s a massive difference.

[half coyote]

Just an aside, it's funny to me how many actors, once they work with RyRy, will keep working with him. Says a lot about how he is away from the cameras, I think.

and not even the big name ones. Discovered today that the guy who played Juggernaut also played Dude in Free Guy

[north star]

yeah ryan seems very nice

i remember he was playing Deadpool with a youtuber for DP2 promotion and he was very nice lmao

[random token]

tva exists outside of time so she is a variant from the future, she's probably been in the void for a while

[safe copper]

Ya I always forget for TVA time isn't linear and everything happens all at once and so we know Laura was young in 2029 when Logan took place, so she must have done something to be in the void in the future.

[random token]

the reason why the tva chose to destroy wade's universe in 2024 instead of after logan dies in 2029 is because thats just the time when wade is most fit to be brought to 616

so they go to 2024 to pick up wade, and since theyre already there may as well put the timeline ripper in that time

whether its right after logan dies or 5 years prior makes zero difference to the tva, because to them the universe is already over

[smoky vapor]

Yep, they be assholes, that little division at least anyway

[safe copper]

Not the whole TVA though.. it was Paradox who tried to hasten demise of Deadpool's universe which would have taken 2000 years otherwise to naturally die, and later he's arrested by Hunter B15

[random token]

well yeah, by "the tva" i meant paradox and his team

people in the tva

[random token]

also, i just saw some btw photos and can confirm that wolverine's cowl is, in fact, practical

well except for the eyes which are cgi so they can be expressive like deadpool's

but the cowl is real

idk why people ever thought it wasnt

i think people are so used to the over abundance of cgi in modern movies that everything sets off their cgi-radar now

deadpool & wolverine uses a surprising amount of practical sets and costumes and stuff like that

[sour night]

Like you said, because of the eyes

and the whole thing just kinda looked off

[frozen summit]

I know that they blew the budget on the cameos but I wish that some of the background Deadpools were comic inspired Variants like Cable & Deadpool Teleporter Belt Deadpool or X-Force Grey Suit Deadpool or Ultimate Deadpool

[random token]

i really dont know why some people are saying that, it was literally a real mask 😭

like what about it specifically looked "off"?

again i think this is a case of people being so used to cgi masks in marvel movies that a real practical mask sets off their cgi radar

[coarse ginkgo]

I will say in some cases using a practical set doesn’t mean anything if it looks like shit

Yes it’s great that it was done practical but that’s not a defence when it doesn’t even look like that

Specifically one set in this movie that I was really surprised to see was practical

[random token]

i mean i think all the sets in the movie look fine?

[coarse ginkgo]

Let me just find it

Well some

The final city looks really fake outside of that one street

https://tenor.com/view/dogpool-deadpool-and-wolverine-jump-x23-cassandra-nova-gif-7310737163549160056

But it’s pretty hard to mess up an empty void

Anyway let me find the specific one

[strange spoke]

Looks fine to me

Like IDK man seems like your not picking

[random token]

yeah that just looks like a city lol

[coarse ginkgo]

I’m glad

[strange spoke]

Like it’s not horrible

[random token]

this really does feel like nitpicking to me

[coarse ginkgo]

Slightly unfair claim

Looks fake to me looks real to you it is what it is

[strange spoke]

“Unfair” bro it’s a single shot for like 5 secounds

[random token]

what about it looks fake?

[strange spoke]

It looks fine

[coarse ginkgo]

It looks green screen, like the background is flat

[strange spoke]

Again, idk why the marvels get the pass but this doesn’t

I really don’t

[coarse ginkgo]

Anyway this scene

Good practical set

Looks fake in the movie

[strange spoke]

Don’t agree

[coarse ginkgo]

Well you wouldn’t

[strange spoke]

What’s that mean?

[dreamy cedar]

It’s in a sort of vision sequence so it’s fair

Not meant to be like a real place

[strange spoke]

I thought it looked fine, had enough of a depth of field

[random token]

i mean it is digitally extended in the movie

but it didnt look bad or anything

[strange spoke]

Now, we’re some CGI aspects wonky, yeah. But again some of this is reaching

[coarse ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/wolverine-deadpool-deadpool-and-wolverine-deadpool-%26-wolverine-on-knees-gif-14353544165918138892

[dreamy cedar]

I thought because it looked endless it added to the idea that wolverine caused the death of thousands

[strange spoke]

Looks fine

[random token]

there are definitely some questionable cgi moments in the movie

[coarse ginkgo]

He doesn’t even look like he’s really there

[random token]

the ones you are mentioning are not those

[strange spoke]

Like the Deadpool head looked like ass

[dreamy cedar]

That’s fair

It looked goofy as hell

[strange spoke]

What about it makes you feel that way

[random token]

he literally is though, so i think its just you

like idk what to tell you

he is literally actually there

[coarse ginkgo]

This is what I said earlier

He is there but if it doesn’t look like that then it’s no good is it

[strange spoke]

And there are some moments where you can know something is CGI and it can look like it but still look visual appealing

Like the end shot of Deadpool and Wolverine popping out the bus window

[coarse ginkgo]

I mean that’s the worst one in the whole movie

They’re fully digital for like 9 seconds

[strange spoke]

Like clearly it’s CGI even looks like it, but it’s a damn well executed visual

Have you seen Peter Pan from 2003

A lot of stuff in that film is clearly digitally composited but it uses its extravagant visuals to make something that isn’t grounded, but rather extravagant

[dreamy cedar]

That looked so bad lmao

[strange spoke]

I don’t agree

I think it was awesome

[dreamy cedar]

Could have been better anyways

[strange spoke]

Sure

[dreamy cedar]

Looked a bit like a video game

[strange spoke]

But like I don’t think it makes this film a 0/10

[dreamy cedar]

No but plenty of other elements make up for that

[strange spoke]

Yeah exactly

It had heart

The cast has charisma

[random token]

i understand why them jumping out of the bus was cgi but i genuinely do not understand why they didnt just switch to the actual actors once they landed

[dreamy cedar]

No I meant other elements make it a 0/10 lol

[strange spoke]

Oh you didn’t like it

[random token]

they've done transitions from cg models to the real actors in mcu projects before

[strange spoke]

Damn

[dreamy cedar]

Idk I’m very split on it

[random token]

like deadpool literally falls out of frame, they could have just had ryan himself stand up after that

[dreamy cedar]

I had a decent time watching it

[strange spoke]

Oh ok

This is the best MCU thing this year

Best marvel thing this year

[dreamy cedar]

I’m struggling to find a rating for it honestly

[random token]

i mean

its literally the only mcu movie this year

[strange spoke]

we had shit like Madame web

[strange spoke]

I mean like

Marvel in general

Madme Web

[random token]

when your competition is madame web and an agatha show

[coarse ginkgo]

I do agree it’s the best mcu movie this year

[dreamy cedar]

The meta humour is refreshing because at least marvel is aware of their critisms and might try and rectify them

[random token]

its pretty easy to be the best

but i do like this movie

probably give it like

8/10

[strange spoke]

HAHAHAGAGA

No

[coarse ginkgo]

But that’s not effective when the movie criticising them is doing the same thing

[random token]

i think its better than deadpool 2 but not on par with deadpool 1

[strange spoke]

They just appointed RDJ as Doom

Yeah nah they ain’t learn shit

[dreamy cedar]

Desperation move

[strange spoke]

AND A STUPID ONE TO

Just fucking dumb

[coarse ginkgo]

‘The multiverse is so old’ or whatever, whilst making a movie centred around it

[strange spoke]

And it was well done

[coarse ginkgo]

Whether it was well done or not isn’t relevant to the irony of such statements

[dreamy cedar]

The only good multiverse movie so far has been no way home

Because they didn’t randomly half arse it

[strange spoke]

WAIT GUYS

What if she Hulk met with Deadpool

[coarse ginkgo]

Calling things old and boring whilst doing that thing is like what

[dreamy cedar]

Deadpool would take the piss out of her shit tv show

[indigo geyser]

For sure but the scene where they jump out of the bus and Deadpool is in his “idle animation” looks like his entire body is 100% cgi which is odd.

[strange spoke]

“I’m sorry who’s your dialogue consultant the minions?”

[sour night]

The pillars are meant to be endless which is difficult to achieve physically but they probably could've found a way

[strange spoke]

LET ME SAH THIS

This had the most accurate depiction of gambit to date

[dreamy cedar]

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of madness is one of the most disappointing movies of all time for me

[strange spoke]

The most accurate depiction of gambit

[dreamy cedar]

What is gambits accent supposed to be

[coarse ginkgo]

Could’ve, but they didn’t

[strange spoke]

Caujin

[dreamy cedar]

Yeah I thought something like that

[strange spoke]

And it was SPOT ON

“Talk or I start dealing”

BROB

BROOOO

LIKE ITS FAN SERVICE WELL DONE

[dreamy cedar]

Where was the 2015 fantastic four

[strange spoke]

Dead

[dreamy cedar]

Everyone’s favourite superhero movie

[strange spoke]

That’s one thing that’s funny tho

Everyone is acting like these were beloved characters

When Jenniefer Garners Electra got panned and flopped

But it was cool to see her tho

[dreamy cedar]

This movie would have been a 10/10 if they referenced Storm’s Toad line

[strange spoke]

LMFAOOOOO

[sour night]

I'm shocked they didn't go for such a easy joke

sabertooth was literally in the movie

[dreamy cedar]

Why no Nic Cage ghost rider or punisher

What about the Netflix marvel show characters

[sour night]

sony made those ghost rider films I'm sure

[sour night]

no way home had daredevil at least

[strange spoke]

HELL YEAH

[strange spoke]

Wait does Sony still own ghost rider?

[sour night]

Probably just the rights to the films

[dreamy cedar]

Wasn’t he in Echo as well

I want to see Cloak and Dagger from the Amazon prime series again as well

No one talks about that show

It’s my lil secret

[dreamy cedar]

Wasn’t there a car with flames on it in one shot though

[strange spoke]

wait guys

[sour night]

🤷‍♂️

[strange spoke]

So the Thor thing was that a joke?

were they serious?

[dreamy cedar]

Probably but it’s weird on the tva screen which means it happened in one universe

[random token]

this is true

[strange spoke]

But the question is which?

Do you think it’s the Mcu one?

[dreamy cedar]

Could be one we never see

[sour night]

Very sure it's done on purpose at a jab at fans who speculate about every little thing

[dreamy cedar]

Like a joke that with endless universes this happened somewhere

[strange spoke]

Sometimes the best twists are guised as a jest

You don’t take it seriously

Until it actually happens

[sour night]

Its reused thor 2 footage so like, when would we see thor looking like his old self again

[dreamy cedar]

This is the third best multiverse movie

[indigo geyser]

https://youtu.be/FDhvKYVZyYo?si=SJMWpD1KV6dt0YxB

[dreamy cedar]

Erik Voss from New Rockstars needs to find some new movies bro

Bro is the marvel encyclopaedia

[coarse ginkgo]

https://youtu.be/BId1AMHzItQ

[frozen umbra]

A whole bunch of people are trying to check if “Megan Fox” is in Deadpool… gah too bad she doesn’t look that way anymore… but the camera and the way it acts around her certainly makes you think it’s a cameo… anyhow, TVA Worker is going to have a career now lol

[wraith bloom]

Matthew macfadyen hot as hell my goodness

This kinda sucked but whatever

[frozen umbra]

Movie’s great, but he’s a bit rando villain

[sour night]

With how the titular characters dispose of people they see as bad, I bet everyone expected him to have a bad fate

nope uhhhh, to the prison for you

[real monolith]

was there a Stan Lee cameo that i missed or did they run out of those?

[sour night]

Pretty sure the permanent final cameo was in endgame

[real monolith]

ah ok. i thought they filmed like 100 of those or something

[half coyote]

He appears in a photo on the side of the bus during the deadpool brawl.

[random token]

???? there hasnt been a stan lee cameo since he died

[dreamy cedar]

What if I said i didn't watch this in cinema

[limber flower]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-no-banned-and-you-are-explode-gif-16047504

[indigo geyser]

😬 a day after it came out, the entire thing was on YouTube in 1080p 😭

Pretty sure whoever uploaded is screwed 😬

[indigo geyser]

Wasn’t there a picture cameo tho ?

[random token]

on the bus, yeah

[frozen umbra]

During end credit, they had his appearance in one of the Fox X-Men during the behind the scenes

Not much you can do with someone who’s passed away.

[frozen umbra]

It’s probably Cam anyways, I don’t condone piracy, but I despise cams forms of piracy the most

[frozen umbra]

Side of the bus during the Deadpool Corps fight

Man Blake Lively does a sexy walk as Ladypool

2 of Ryan Reynolds’ daughters are in the scene too, one as Kidpool and the other voiced Babypool

“Voiced”, more like grunted lol

[real monolith]

sure, but i thought i heard somewhere that they filmed like a 100 cameos of Stan Lee so he could keep having appearances in films after he died. guess taht was wrong

[round elbow]

Finally I watched it

Most fun I’ve had in a year

I missed the after credits because of an emergency. Is it just Johnny talking?

If so I probably didn’t miss anything important

[half coyote]

Nothing important, but it's funny to see Chris Evans being so foul-mouthed

[real monolith]

"and you can quote me."

to me thats the funniest line of the movie

[round elbow]

I would’ve liked it better if Liev Schreiber was in it

He was a peak villain

[frozen umbra]

why would they do that, if they don’t even know what story or settings each project is about?

[frozen umbra]

Basically, ||Deadpool was at TVA and brought up footage of Johnny saying EXACTLY what Deadpool told Cassandra what Johnny said… AND predicted exactly how he was going to die… just so he won’t be blaimed for killing The Human Torch||

[half coyote]

I think I remember hearing that they'd done a lot of filming with him at once so he didn't have to keep going to film sets etc

and it was all greenscreened so they could just insert him wherever, but that was when they were doing 4 films a year

[frozen umbra]

He filmed a few, but those were for project that was already known… because his health had declined a lot… not “a whole bunch”… I believe that Endgame used off the last ones of that… more generic versions might still show up later, but they might be keeping them for more important projects like Avengers… basically each they use, they have one less.

[round elbow]

So are we getting the same cast for the next Xmen movie or will they reveal that Xmen were in the MCU the entire time?

I don’t see them doing another multiverse thing for the Xmen movie

[frozen umbra]

And the big issue with those are also that you still have to make them fit… and technology has already changed a fair bit since Endgame… the footage might need significant work to fit into new films shot on Alexa LF and other large format cameras.

[frozen umbra]

Nobody knows, at least not in the public.

[round elbow]

They’re gonna have them do it til they’re 90

[frozen umbra]

I’m assuming the next time something comes up with Deadpool would be like… Doomsday

X-men might be mentioned before, specifically in Agatha and maybe Cap America and Thunderbolt, but I don’t think we’ll know until closer.

[round elbow]

We already know the Fantastic Four will come with different actors so they may do the same with the other characters

[frozen umbra]

Mmhmm… I’m more curious about cameos and additional people outside of the core F4 characters.

I mean, f$&$ I want to see Spider-Man babysit Franklin and Valeria with Dragon Man, but the chances of Sony allowing that would be slim I guess, unless Disney wants to part with a lot of the box office percentage.

Announcing Doom now is going to be interesting… RDJ as Doom probably will only work well in Doomsday… but not having Doom in First Steps is going to be weird I think, but we’ll see…

[half coyote]

speaking of Fantastic four

https://x.com/gray/status/1819825458726215805

Daniel Benneworth-Gray (@gray) on X

Alex Ross cover art for Fantastic Four #22 … goodness me

Twitter · Aug 3, 2024, 7:59 PM

https://x.com/thealexrossart/status/1819107764347851138/photo/1

Alex Ross (@thealexrossart) on X

Twitter · Aug 1, 2024, 8:27 PM

[frozen umbra]

The Ross is amazeballs, love him so much

His oversize book of Batman is god tier

[half coyote]

I saw a theory the other day about RDJ as Doom. Basically, the characters learn that Tony was an anchor being so they go looking for another one, not realising the one they picked up was actually Doom.

For the love of god I hope that's not the plot

becasue that's exactly what Deadpool did

[round elbow]

Reminds me of Ruins a bit

Imagine Alex Ross drawing what Warren Ellis drew

Btw speaking of which ig everyone including Disney is trying to cover up 2015’s Fantastic Four because it’s not on Disney Plus anymore

I thought it would be referenced in DP3 because I think they were originally planned to be involved in DP2

The cast in that movie deserved a second chance

[tidal saddle]

https://vxtwitter.com/zerowontmiss/status/1819872479013372161

nice, Gambit lives

[frozen umbra]

It won’t be, it’ll be too stupid even for MCU

[frozen umbra]

It really only works with The Merc With A Mouth… because of the 4th Wall Breaks…

[frozen umbra]

I’d think all 4 variants lived, including Elektra and Blade

[tidal saddle]

glad that there's a sense of confirmation

[frozen umbra]

I want a full Gambit movie, but like The Hulk, the character is more a serialized character, or support in movies… solo film isn’t easy with him

It’s not easy to find a compelling perspective for him on a solo feature film level

[frozen umbra]

Unless MOST people, I liked Daredevil and Elektra films, but I’m weird like that lol

I also loved She-Hulk series

[round elbow]

Why didn’t Elektra wear her red outfit?

I confused her for Psylocke

[frozen umbra]

I thought it’s red, just very very dark, like a dark burgundy… but I could be wrong… and I’m sure they wanted to make Deadpool the “brightest red” in the movie

[sour night]

For being comic book films, mcu movies outside of the gotg and third and fourth thor films, they sure aren't ever trying to be colorful

[frozen umbra]

True, and even then Deadpool and Wolverine has probably the brightest costumes yet

I’m a bit tired of dark and grungy honestly

[round elbow]

What about her headpiece?

[frozen umbra]

Again, probably trying to make sure Deadpool is the only FULL RED costume… which is probably why Azazel appears so little too

[round elbow]

Everyone else except Sabretooth looked pretty comic accurate

Gambit looked like he was in a Halloween costume compared to the last live action version

[frozen umbra]

And I loved him for it lol

[round elbow]

And Johnny’s 4 was bigger and in the middle of his chest instead of smaller and on his breast

[frozen umbra]

“Who’s your dialect coach? I feel like we could be missing a LOT of critical expositions!”

[frozen umbra]

And the Fantasticar… makes me so happy lol

Though, that’s Movie accurate, not quite comic accurate

[round elbow]

Juggernaut not saying I’m the Juggernaut bitch was disappointing too

[frozen umbra]

Movie reference, not comic, I’m ok with that lol

Already incredible amounts of sendup in the film

[round elbow]

They brought back the same actors wearing the same costumes for fan service probably so them making the movie references would fit

Like in NWH

[frozen umbra]

I mean, I’m sure they wanted as much as they can, but as Deadpool said “oh NOW Disney cheaps out!”

[round elbow]

Lol

[random token]

just watched logan for the first time since it came out in theaters

still holds up

absolutely fantastic movie

[round elbow]

It’s my second favorite movie

It’s already a classic because other movies have been copying it

[real monolith]

"I believe I came out my daddy's dick ready."

[frozen umbra]

Honestly, as much as I love the Fox X-Men series, Logan still stands as THE BEST movie in that group

[frozen umbra]

I don’t believe “I believe” is part of that line lol

[frozen umbra]

Well, it’s nothing new, formula and story-wise, but damn every part of that film just builds and builds… now what IS new, is desecrating the corpse… “I promise I won’t use MY weapons”

Deadpool lied, as always though lol

Best opening credit sequence in a superhero film ever hahaha

[random token]

seeing the grave at the ending of logan, knowing what's gonna happen to it in a few years: 😰😰😰

[frozen umbra]

Also, probably the most innovative use of Adamantium ever lol

"There are 206 bones in the human body, 207 if I'm watching Gossip Girl."

https://tenor.com/view/lady-deadpool-deadpool-%26-wolverine-gif-18335893231158110067

"Uzi time?" "Uzi time"

[sour night]

You think the hair is fake and she actually lost all of it

[frozen summit]

I'm only now realizing now that the X-Men timelines make no sense, like what timeline is what?

[real monolith]

Xmen movies wasted so much potential. like The Apocalypse movie shoulda been like 6 movies

Days of Future Past shoulda been a trilogy

[random token]

i think my instagram algorithm knows the type of reel i like 😭

[frozen summit]

is this actually Earth-10005 like it's said in the movie? Wade Wilson in Earth-10005 became Weapon XI in Earth-10005 did the post-Days of Future Past Time Travel Timeline alter it so that Wade got a different fate? why are all the X-Men the age they were in the 90s in the Deadpool 2 cameo?

[random token]

basically because there was so much time travel

anything between like 1970 and 2024 is completely up for debate

so they can pick and choose what is and isnt canon

[frozen summit]

if The Wolverine still is canon why is Yukio completely different? Time Travel Again?

[random token]

as for the deadpool 2 x-men cameo, i wouldnt look at that as anything other than a joke

[random token]

i think only parts of the wolverine are canon now

because it takes place in 2013

again, its very complicated and messy

and my best answer would be "just dont think about it too much"

the people making the movies didnt think about the timeline so neither should you lol

not to mention that the movie logan implies that things didnt go exactly as the movies showed them to

[frozen summit]

and if Logan is apparently the tail end of the X-Men since they're all dead, how were they in Deadpool 2? it's almost as consistent as Doctor Who continuity

[random token]

again, the cameo in deadpool 2 is nothing more than a joke

its just a bit to get a laugh

[round elbow]

Maybe they came from the multiverse even back in 2018

[frozen umbra]

THe MAIN MCU is 616, and yeah they put THIS film in that, so... that's good

[frozen umbra]

Logan is also 616, and canon, apparently, so was Deadpool 1 and 2

[random token]

no

no no no

these movies do NOT take place in 616 lol

[tidal saddle]

https://vxtwitter.com/wandasattorney/status/1819603747078545636

[sour night]

Singlehandedly made me wish I saw the movie subtitled but that would've made this less funny

how does this joke work in language dubs

[zenith galleon]

Prior to loki season 2 there was only one timeline. The sacred time lime. Any deviations led to that timeline being pruned.

[topaz vessel]

Is that how Gambit is supposed to sound?

I prefer the "mon ami" stuff.

[surreal arrow]

The Proposal

[frozen umbra]

They do now... since it was established with Happy toward the beginning of the film.

Official Fox is 10005, but that one has already died "technically speaking"... and that "he's native" at the end, brings him back to 616

Until we know more in future films, I would say that 10005 and 616 are the same now

Either way, Fox Universe is 10005, but we don't know if they are going to be the same as 616, or that they are merging, or whatever.

[warped nova]

def would not. It will give giggle but the sound he makes is whats important

[frozen umbra]

Again "who's your dialect coach!? I feel like we are missing important exposition here!"

[viscid cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-carrot-rabbit-whats-up-doc-gif-14258920

[frozen umbra]

Well, I think her entire backstory is way more sane than most other Deadpools, and her creator actually was inspired BY Blake Lively's character on Gossip Girl called Serena (what a way to come full circle). She didn't get cancer (I think, not 100% on that), but did get healing factor from her Wolverine, which left her somewhat scarred (though not as bad as most other Deadpools)... as far as canon, I don't think they really go into it too much in the comics that I'm aware of... she STARTED as basically what she looks like already (full costume and mask, with the horsetail but no Uzis), when Deadpool 616 was travelling all over the multiverse with Headpool after a cross-over with Marvel Zombies (if I remember correctly), and was quickly inducted into Deadpool Corps, and quickly became their leader because she was the most intelligent and least insane, while insane enough that other Deadpools will listen to her.

It's also rather confusing that at the time Deadpool-616 and most other Deadpools had a holoprojector that allowed them to "look like anyone", so even though she looked stunning under her mask (all her scars somehow stayed gone after The Pools came back from their individual illusions, where The Awareness trapped them... and she hid it from the team until she died crashing a "Bea Arthur" into Galactipool... long story), and that she was DRAWN to look like Serena (again, on Gossip Girl), we don't know exactly if that was 100% permanently under that mask.

Here's a pic from her 2010 unmask after the events mentioned above, and 2 sets of limited official figures of the unmasked character.

And there's what the character Serena looked like in season 4 (2010), and season 1 (2007)

[frozen umbra]

As said in Deadpool 1 "McAvoy or Stewart? All these timelines can be so confusing!"

[teal crag]

i think i read somewhere apparently its the city from free city so if thats right that is probably why

[coarse ginkgo]

It isn’t the exact same one but it looks a lot like it

[teal crag]

same set?

[coarse ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/free-guy-ryan-reynolds-run-over-hit-by-car-gif-1748449594669783142

Just general city template

[teal crag]

definitely was a kinda yeah general city so it had that faux atmosphere

[half coyote]

its in Australia, I think?

'generic america'

[sour night]

Man, they can't have a woman look even slightly unappealing

I thought that was a lot of deadpool's character, purposely wearing a mask at all times when in costume

[random token]

no

[random token]

absolutely not

[coarse ginkgo]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/deadpool-and-wolverine-box-office-record-second-weekend-1235965690/

[sour night]

I gotta get onto that trap sweep

[random token]

actually insane that this man is 55

[indigo geyser]

New rockstars, and screencrush has breakdown on timeline,

https://youtu.be/y7dxGwhbgeo?si=zm0R2F4_ks7yAUIz

https://youtu.be/FDhvKYVZyYo?si=9RTgflqB-fDN3irk

[sour night]

I remember we got a silence your phone ad for the movie before furiosa started and my dad said "he looks old now"

His workout routine probably would've been for nothing if it wasn't for that climax

[indigo geyser]

It makes sense tho, when ya get shredded having below 10% body fat u gonna look crazy, seen some old heads at the gym I lift at that look like Greek gods lol. I’m curious if he used PEDs, cause if he had to maintain that low body fat percentage levels while acting would be insane, I’d think he would have been on some form of PED to be able to not be lethargic and tired on set.

[random token]

he claims he didn't

and there's a pretty well documented method for shooting shirtless scenes

1: usually they shoot them first

[half coyote]

Dehydrated

[random token]

and 2: if you just dehydrate yourself

yeah

as in-shape as hugh is, he does not look like that all the time

you dehydrate yourself for three days

and then have sugar

and it causes your skin to cling to the muscles super tight

i can't wait for this movie to come to vod so we can have some very hd photos of... certain scenes

[indigo geyser]

He claims he didn’t use steroids, that doesn’t mean he’s not using other PEDs

[random token]

yeah he could definitely be using some sort of TRT

but honestly

that is absolutely a naturally attainable physique

especially when you consider he had 8 months to get in shape

[indigo geyser]

I’d think cause male test levels decrease with age

I’m gonna hop on trt once I hit that age lol

[random token]

fair lmao

[indigo geyser]

I’m going to see this movie again today

Any of yall see in imax 3D? Is it worth seeing in imax 3D like Avatar 2? Or is this movie not take advantage of 3D

[random token]

i have heard that the imax 3d is very good

[indigo geyser]

I think the opening would look amazing, I remember at my first viewing thinking this sequence was shot like it was made for 3D

[safe copper]

There's no CGI involved in this right ?

[random token]

that is a 100% unaltered photo

[safe copper]

That's just crazy

https://x.com/BORReport/status/1820121091588956414?t=AHQ__naY06gV5bQBbkjXSg&s=19

BoxOfficeReport.com (@BORReport) on X

Disney's Deadpool & Wolverine has passed the $800M global mark.

The film grossed an estimated $110.5M internationally this weekend. Estimated international total stands at $428.5M, estimated global total stands at $824.1M.

#DeadpoolAndWolverine #BoxOffice

Twitter · Aug 4, 2024, 3:34 PM

[random token]

passing the first two movies in less than two weeks is insane

[safe copper]

Yes it is.. a billion dollars is a guarantee now and it will definitely pass Joker as highest grossing R rated movie imo

[random token]

even when people were doubting this movie, i always held strong that it would make 1.1-1.3 billion

now the estimates are saying it will make around 1.2 billion

i was right all along

[coarse ginkgo]

https://deadline.com/2024/08/deadpool-wolverine-second-weekend-global-international-box-office-1236029986/

[frozen umbra]

Again, tf you on about? 616 was literally said in the film, no matter if Deadpool stayed in 616 (previously 199999), the Fox timeline is 10005. There are only 3 choices, they are in 616, they are in 10005, or that they are somewhat merged or is merging in a not so distant future. Just saying “No” without adding information or your own opinions is dismissive and offensive…

[random token]

they are in 10005

deadpool traveled to 616 in the first scene

then went back to 10005

it said so in the movie

[frozen umbra]

Yes fine you are probably right, I need to see the film again, but don’t just dismissively say “no” and “absolutely not”… that just makes dead ends.

[random token]

nah, imma do my own thing

[frozen umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/block-button-family-guy-blocked-block-peter-griffin-gif-21467361

[topaz vessel]

fuck Joker.

[frozen umbra]

But they have lady gaga in the sequel now

[random token]

https://tenor.com/view/its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-charlie-kelly-charlie-day-rob-mc-elhenney-ronald-mac-donald-gif-3804693

[topaz vessel]

As non-psychiatrist Harley Queen. Fits a non-Joker quite well.

[random token]

yeah they really are relying on dc branding to sell a movie that has literally nothing to do with the characters it claims to be about lol

[topaz vessel]

Joking Phoenix.

He'll never face Batman, how am i supposed to take this guy serious?

[frozen umbra]

Because he has a nice gun and ||shoots deniro|| lol… but I’ve made my opinions clear that I didn’t really like the film before lol

[topaz vessel]

This movie would be awesome if it werent beholden to DC Comics.

Just a guy going crazy.

[frozen umbra]

Heh yah

[random token]

i am beginning to really dislike erik voss from new rockstars

i tried watching his video going over the things he got wrong about deadpool & wolverine

but had to stop

he just comes across as so petty

like he feels personally attacked because his stupid theories weren't true

even though it was officially confirmed that taylor swift wasnt in the movie months ago, he still thought she was

because she used the word "dazzling" in one song

and for some reason he was convinced that deadpool and wolverine would revisit endgame

even though logistically that would be nearly impossible

and would serve zero narrative purpose

but he said that ryan reynolds and shawn levy literally failed the fans by not doing it???

what an actual entitled asshole

he got super angry about a plotpoint not making sense, only to be immediately reminded of something in the movie that he had forgotten about

then got super defensive and dismissive

[indigo geyser]

I had thought they do cgi touch ups on actors though?

[random token]

i mean sometimes? but that is an unedited bts photo

the director confirmed they didnt do touch ups on the shirtless scenes

it seems like in some shots they did do touch ups on hugh's arms, only because some shots were filmed like a year later than the rest due to the strike and it would basically be impossible to stay in the exact same shape for that long

[indigo geyser]

They are in 10005, the only portion of film that occurs in 616 realm is the part with happy, after its show Deadpool going back to 10005 verse with his “pals”. ig maybe it’s arguable the void but I think the void is supposed to exist outside of the verse designations as the “trash dump”

[random token]

yeah my interpretation is that every universe and timeline leads to the same point far far in the future

and that is the void

so the void serves almost as like a central station that can allow you to travel between universes

[indigo geyser]

Wouldn’t they lead to the place where he who remains is at, that was called the place at the end of time or something like that.

Based on Loki interpretation it seemed like pruned things would go to void, so the void, tva, area where god of story loki, and he who remains are at exist outside space and time?

[random token]

well remember they got there through the void?

the place at the end of time is in the same place as the void

alioth is the watchdog of that place

[mental yoke]

They did actually

When CG Deadpool falls off screen it transitions to real Deadpool

but for some reason they didn't do the same with Wolverine

So it's just his CG version idling for like 10 seconds

It's so strange

[random token]

it definitely does not, he is very clearly cgi through the whole shot

tbh i think idle pose wolverine is so funny so i dont mind it lmao

[mental yoke]

No it's real Deadpool when he stands up

[random token]

i promise you it isnt

go on youtube and watch the scene

[mental yoke]

In fact it's more obvious it's real Deadpool when you see him next to CG Hugh

[random token]

not that i condone piracy

[tidal saddle]

https://x.com/ExplosiveTG/status/1820048766256165362

TG (@ExplosiveTG) on X

wooimbouttamakeanameformyselfere

Twitter · Aug 4, 2024, 10:46 AM

[random token]

kinda cool seeing how the claws fit into the skeleton

[real monolith]

https://x.com/OneTakeNews/status/1820137643428176093

One Take 🎬 (@OneTakeNews) on X

By passing ‘THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST’ at the box office, Deadpool has LITERALLY become Marvel Jesus.

Twitter · Aug 4, 2024, 4:40 PM

[indigo geyser]

Here’s some interesting details not sure about this guy info source, https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRos6Gjw/

[warped nova]

News worthy

[random token]

yeah that sounds about right

you dehydrate yourself for a few days and it makes your skin thinner

and your muscles pop

but no one should be looking like that all the time

[sour night]

Jesus people over here in the states are absolutely eating this film

if half the total is just domestic

[topaz vessel]

eh.

Canadians. We get the job done. high five

[random token]

i just solved something

there's a bts photo of wolverine in the bus scene

and the cowl is real which is great

but he also had tracking dots on his arms

which caused people to think his arms were cgi

BUT

after watching the scene in the movie and comparing it to the bts photo

the dots were just to track cgi blood onto his arms

the arms are real

you can see in the actual scene theres a ton of blood sprayed on his arms that isnt present in the bts photos

[safe copper]

It's doing well internationally too I believe

[random token]

it actually overperformed internationally this weekend by quite a bit

[safe copper]

Ya

[sacred ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/wolverine-abs-six-pack-wolverine-cowl-deadpool-and-wolverine-gif-8657639155071398140

[random token]

why is that gif 4 hours long

[sacred ingot]

maybe your internet man

[torn granite]

Let's not jump here lol

He looks damn good.

But, do remind yourself that Hollywood has zero problems using roids and other enhancers.

[half coyote]

but they do it in a very controlled and monitored way

however, it was still probably hell getting into that shape

[torn granite]

Just in case someone thinks this is to be emulated by a "normal" person.

[torn granite]

It's still steroid use lmao

I don't care how monitored it is, you're still fucking your body up.

[versed marsh]

Just saw this in theaters an hour ago. I don't think the MCU will ever top this.

Especially that intro, holy fuck

[tidal saddle]

the only very few mcu films that is great in a long time

[sour night]

That intro made me dead inside and regret my decision to be there lol

just from the start with wade singing the marvel studios logo theme and explaining the company merge stuff I was like "oh no, I'm not gonna like this"

but shoutouts to the little kid next to me having a blast for making it tolerable

[lone totem]

dancing sequence went on TOO LONG

[sour night]

I always appreciate a modern blockbuster including intro credits because we hardly ever see em in those types of movies anymore because audiences keep having less patience but yeah it just kept going

[coarse ginkgo]

https://fxtwitter.com/filmsbypjd/status/1820142055999295996

[lone totem]

why the fuck is he stood like that

[warped nova]

Ai

[coarse ginkgo]

https://fxtwitter.com/realhughjackman/status/1820409245436674314

[warped nova]

I saw this on Twitter

[supple sequoia]

the proposal

[half coyote]

https://x.com/VancityReynolds/status/1820452669061779952

Ryan Reynolds (@VancityReynolds) on X

There is no Fox Marvel Universe or MCU without Blade first creating a market. He’s Marvel Daddy. Please retweet for a Logan-like send off. #DeadpoolAndWolverine

Twitter · Aug 5, 2024, 1:31 PM

How amazing would it be if Disney switched their Blade for the original instead?

[wraith bloom]

Same 😭

[coarse ginkgo]

https://fxtwitter.com/shawnlevydirect/status/1820466167519260816

[sour night]

Erm, where is the Howard the Duck respect, frick you

But yeah it was nice to see blade respect

We couldn't really of had x men or raimi spider man without him

thus, everything else made afterwards, for better or worse

[coarse ginkgo]

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/shawn-levy-deadpool-and-wolverine-spoilers-cameos-1236089059/

[coarse ginkgo]

https://collider.com/deadpool-and-wolverine-nicolas-cage-ghost-rider/

https://youtu.be/658mMj3iqFg

https://www.instagram.com/p/C-S1De1oHid/

henrycavill

To be safe, I shaved the moustache off for this one. Just the moustache.

@SLevyDirect
@VanCityReynolds
@TheHughJackman
#DeadpoolAndWolverine

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[sour night]

How long did it take no way home to officially show all the spoilers

[coarse ginkgo]

https://fxtwitter.com/vancityreynolds/status/1820525919582167472

[round elbow]

Everyone is allowed to post movie shots now?

[fierce raft]

Um damn people getting HQ gifs of abs already

[round elbow]

Why are all the gifs and vids of the movie in higher quality than the theater screen?

[sour night]

I swear there must be some person with a high quality camera that had a theater screen all to himself to record

was shocked at how decent looking a cam rip of mario movie looked within a week of released

[round elbow]

I went to AMC theaters and it was so blurry I had to keep looking at my hand to see if my vision was ok

And I could easily see the chromatic aberration on the screen

[strange spoke]

Ayo?

[sour night]

eesh that place needs to get new projectors it seems

[meager cosmos]

Not sure why we are showing this now if the movie came out like 1 week ago

I know thw whole internet knows about it already but it feels weird

[coarse ginkgo]

These kinds of movies don’t really have the strongest legs

So they’ve got nothing to lose after the second weekend

[meager cosmos]

Yeah that makes sense

[coarse ginkgo]

https://fxtwitter.com/marvel/status/1820589028124881159

[sour night]

they what together

[strange spoke]

Came 🥵

Hard

[round elbow]

Everything is literally on imdb

[indigo geyser]

https://movieweb.com/everything-deadpool-wolverine-did-she-hulk-did-better/

😅 what on earth is this

[meager cosmos]

It's interesting how people are now fond of She-Hulk after they burned that poor show to the ground 2 years ago

[round elbow]

Perfect response

[round elbow]

It was praised back then for bringing back Daredevil

Tbh Daredevil’s introduction in the show was much better than the cameos’ introductions in DP3

Except Johnny’s because that one was genius

[meager cosmos]

I didn't watch She-Hulk but when Matt was introduced in the show I got very excited

[round elbow]

Some episodes are worth watching

[meager cosmos]

I should give it a try, I kinda dropped the ball with the MCU after Werewolf at Night lol

[round elbow]

Except for the ones that say “men bad twerking funny”

[round elbow]

Was it bad?

[meager cosmos]

The contrary lmao, I thought it was so good that it made me upset that Feige and co. stopped doing special presentations with unique styles

Got my expectations a little too high and then Quantumania and The Marvels happened

[round elbow]

Guardians 3 came out before Marvels

[meager cosmos]

I wanted to watch that movie ever since I watched the second one so I kinda knew it was gonna be a banger lmao

[strange spoke]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHSGSHSHSHSGA

HAHAHAHAGAGAGSGAGA

Gtfo out

Goofy ass article

[smoky vapor]

I lowered my rating down by a point and a half

Of this film

The screenplay being le makn reason

but i still really like itt

[strange spoke]

Unacceptable

I’ll still protect you at all cost tho

[frozen summit]

I'm just realizing that Liefeld's sells shoes, when Rob Liefeld is infamous for not drawing feet

[tidal saddle]

https://vxtwitter.com/boos2fer/status/1820610722188976551?s=46

[limber flower]

people just simply love Channing Tatum

[sacred ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/detroitlions-detroit-lions-gif-15294422

[hushed nexus]

I watched Deadpool and Wolverine for the only reason that them two were in the film. I’ve been disappointed constantly with marvels output and have given up hope with them. This was a pleasant surprise and i feel is what Marvel needs to do more. Every deadpool movie has felt like breath of fresh air and this one does exactly that, i loved the self deprecation of the studios state and thought overall the film was proof that marvel is still capable of making great movies

Guardians of the Galaxy 3 was fantastic as well i just hope they continue to make good films like them in the future

[sacred ingot]

you can just post this in letterboxd instead of here man

[hushed nexus]

I’m aware

wasn’t a review

[sacred ingot]

ok mb

[round elbow]

So? What’s wrong?

[meager cosmos]

This thread is for movie discussions and that's exactly what they're doing

[empty sand]

I think the TVA idea was the worst thing to happen to this universe

Too many different variations of time management

[meager cosmos]

Every new movie/show they introduce a new multiverse concept and it's so exhausting lol

[empty sand]

You got multiverse of madness, TVA, time stone…

[hushed nexus]

I agree completely, introducing that in Loki was fun and i originally liked the idea but i didn’t realize it would be so overplayed to where every film has something to do with multiple universes and time line managing

[empty sand]

Like I want to hit my head whenever I hear it because it’s a time killer when they give so much exposition to catch up with these concepts.

[empty sand]

That’s why it’s overplayed, it was meant to ease you in to this idea so there’s a perpetual series of films with the same classic characters we grew to love.

Essentially creating a hell of constant fighting because these worlds are never at peace…

This is the instance I agree with the Crisis of Infinite Earths approach.

Just erase it all

[hushed nexus]

Yeah it creates lots of opportunities for new plot ideas that unfortunately become repetitive which it already is

[empty sand]

I will say, hot take: I found trap more enjoyable than this…

[sour night]

The theater staff awkwardly having to wait for everyone to leave

[hushed nexus]

have yet to see trap, is it worth?

[empty sand]

At face value no

[sour night]

Imma join in on the trap sweep within 12 hours

[empty sand]

It’s a VoD type film.

[sour night]

I should go ahead and sleep so I can catch the morning showing

[empty sand]

But I think because of the scale of the film

It’s really worth it

[hushed nexus]

alright well i found the premise to be pretty intriguing but i felt the same with Longlegs and that disappointed me

[empty sand]

It’s actually very stylish in the sense that from the pov of our lead we are as amazed by all these people collectively moved by the artist.

Music is ok but I like the shot choices

Shot on film too

[sacred ingot]

nah nothing im just tellin hime

[hushed nexus]

Okay, well i’ll check it out then whenever i have time

[frozen summit]

I miss David Leitch ngl

[mental yoke]

Guys I have to admit

Movie is genuinely funny

It's grown on me since I watched it lol I think it went up a whole star for me

That "The Proposal" joke ended me lol

[kindred flare]

It’s definitely grown on me too

[warped nova]

It’s hilarious movie fr

[coarse ginkgo]

https://fxtwitter.com/vancityreynolds/status/1820802947443265551

[coarse ginkgo]

https://fxtwitter.com/shawnlevydirect/status/1820820762124534196

[random token]

definitely gonna get this movie on 4k bluray when that releases, apparently theres gonna be some deleted scenes and a gag reel

[sour night]

It'll likely release in October or November I bet

[half coyote]

yep, in for Christmas

[coarse ginkgo]

https://fxtwitter.com/onetakenews/status/1820875585226252665

[sour night]

Hes a pro doing this at this point

[random token]

the vids of him doing adr for logan are super entertaining

bro knows how to do adr

[sour marten]

Am i the only one who thought it was crap?

[half coyote]

you'll be in the minority

[random token]

i mean 79% critic rating, 96% audience rating

the vast majority of people who watched this movie liked it

[sour night]

They got everything they wanted (except mcu characters besides happy interacting with the titular characters) and the movie itself knows that so

super easy crowd pleaser

[sour marten]

Yeah thats the thing i hated lol

Fan service fest

Read a review that said the movie is the equivalent to finding a box full of your old toys, enjoying them for a bit because of nostalgia and then disposing of them after the effect wears off

[random token]

im glad they didnt do a bunch if mcu cameos, this movie was meant to celebrate the fox universe so its a good thing that they stuck with those characters

[sour night]

Yeah same I'm glad that was the route taken

I'm sure people were kinda disappointed they didn't meet up with mcu characters and locations

[random token]

i mean some people were thinking/hoping they would visit the final battle of endgame

which, just to be clear, is a stupid idea

[half coyote]

wtf would they go there???

[random token]

exactly

like what would they do there

there is zero narrative purpose for that

not to mention the shear cost of even getting a few of the actors back to recreate that scene

that alone would double the movie's budget

it was a stupid theory

[sour night]

I meannnnn, no way home was a bunch of random bull crap too, why did the doctor strange spell just bring spider man villains to the mcu

[half coyote]

because the spell went wrong

[sour night]

I know it was people who knew who Peter Parker was, yet some characters brought over don't know

[random token]

i dont really see how thats related to what i was saying at all

no way home brought back old spider-man characters

[half coyote]

but they did. They all knew it was Peter right before they died, and that was the moment they were pulled from, right?

[sour night]

They can do whatever they want to at this point is what I'm saying ig

[random token]

deadpool & wolverine visiting endgame would be like if in no way home, a bunch of old iron man villains showed up

im honestly impressed with how contained and personal they kept the stakes and story

it was still at its core a story about deadpool

[sour night]

What did sony venom have anything to do with knowing a peter parker

[random token]

venom's multiversal hivemind

[half coyote]

I think Venom knew

[sour night]

Hes not even brought just for funs, he's probably a major plot point in the next mcu spidey movie because that's how the symbiote arrived in the mcu

idk I just find the whole thing including him being really stupid

[half coyote]

which is why he was in the credits stinger

[random token]

that's sony for ya

[half coyote]

the point of it was to merge the Sonyverse into the MCU

or a bit of it anyway

[sour night]

Idk how the morbius post credits scene gets made fun of and criticized but not no way home's

I find it more ridiculous and lazy

[half coyote]

because people liked Venom

[sour night]

shoutouts to happy for being the only character in this movie who got more than a few minutes of screen time who didn't curse

it's always the smaller side characters in mcu movies I care the most about out of any character like happy, ned, and luis from ant man

always glad to see them appear

[coarse ginkgo]

Not the only one, but more people liked it than disliked

[fallow crescent]

dont think I heard him curse that much in the Deadpool Corps scene

[random token]

yeah most of his audio cant really be heard over the music

[half coyote]

probably an alternate take

[random token]

but its fun to know that its there

that too

they do lots of takes for everything

[nocturne burrow]

Gambit said one joke in the movie

And that was the funniest thing in the movie

For me

[wraith bloom]

I did too

[coarse ginkgo]

https://collider.com/deadpool-and-wolverine-fantastic-4-no-cameo-explained/

[empty sand]

56/100 meta critic rating.

It’s riding high due to it being new

It will have those dumb essay videos in about a few months. Similar to TFA’s fate.

[strange spoke]

Mando

People like the film

It’s one of the better MCU things in phase 5

[random token]

which is only a little lower than the first two

[strange spoke]

The marvels is ten times worst

Secret wars is bad

[random token]

deadpool movies never did well on metacritic

[strange spoke]

This ain’t anywhere near that

[coarse ginkgo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP-mipPdqeU

[empty sand]

Not wishing this, it’s just I noticed the naysayers and supporters have very different approaches to this film. Naysayers call it too mind numbing while the supporters say “you don’t watch a Deadpool movie for the story”.

Which I have to say the latter talking point is a bit weak considering how emotional it’s trying to be here.

[empty sand]

That’s not even out yet

[strange spoke]

Sorry Secret Invasion

[empty sand]

Good :)

Secret Wars will be messy

Because it’s multiverse steroids

I couldn’t keep up with the TVA

So with a larger conflict involving all these alt worlds is going to get even messier. At least the monitor multiverse of the DC universe is more direct and approachable.

Even though the flash movie also made little sense when it shows worlds colliding.

[random token]

if theyre gonna have a bunch of characters, at least they have the russos

i have my issues with how certain characters were handled by the russos, but they absolutely know how to handle a large ensemble cast

[empty sand]

I hope it’s Infinity War and not End Game.

[random token]

endgame's purpose was to sort of wrap up an era

i feel like doomsday/secret wars wont be trying to do that

[empty sand]

Yea while telling a pretty bland story.

[random token]

well i wouldnt be surprised if secret wars ends with a soft reboot

but you would need to be another level of shitty to somehow make secret wars bland

[empty sand]

Having Thanos as the baddie that has no experience with the Infinity Wat saga outside of Guardians 1.

We’ll see

When will that shit be out?

Oh in three years

Jesus wtf is up with the new Captain America budget

Looks like Harrison Ford has a bloated budget curse. Like Dial of Destiny the Brave New World movie cost 375 MILLION DOLLARS?!

And Indiana movie is the third most expensive film of all time.

[topaz vessel]

Its not the new budget, its the whole budget. So many reshoots.

[random token]

that movie is NOT making its money back

but

theyre willing to spend a lot because it needs to be good

cap 4 is going to be one of the most crucial movies to set up the next avengers films

because its literally about sam wilson being told to assemble a new team of avengers

cap 4, thunderbolts, and fantastic 4 all lead up to avengers 5 and 6

which makes sense, considering theyre the only future mcu movies coming out before avengers 5

spider-man 4 might make a late 2025/early 2026 release date

but other than that its just those three

[topaz vessel]

gee i hope nobody in the cast is beating people up in their spare time.

[random token]

https://tenor.com/view/kang-dance-shimmy-kang-dance-kang-shimmy-gif-22347565

[smoky vapor]

Doomsday needs to be good because we still have a lot of storylines not converged enough to feel like a team up is ready

[sour night]

Maybe they shouldn't pay Ford like $100 million for acting

[empty sand]

Yea. I’m kinda shock they still want to work with him considering he’s not a sole reason for a box office draw.

Like Indiana Jones 5 having made less box office money than the budget

[sour night]

Ford is cool for the 40+ year old crowd

[mental yoke]

Marvels is not bad at all

I actually just rewatched it in HD for the first time and yeah it's not bad

It has a villain issue but it made Captain Marvel more of an actual character with a personality instead of a wood plank

There were interesting ideas with the villain that weren't properly explored, but the film didn't overstay it's welcome, despite being like two hours long the pacing was very breezy, the interactions between the three Marvels were very fun to watch. And Iman charmed as Kamala Khan

[smoky vapor]

Iman carried that movie so hard

[mental yoke]

She did I can't lie

But the renovation they did to Brie's character was much, much better and made me like MCU captain marvel

[median mantle]

you’re in the minority with me!!

[sour marten]

Not a difficult thing to achieve

[teal crag]

yeah thats a good assessment of the marvels

[strange spoke]

Yes it was bruh, she started off as a wooden plank and ended as such

[mental yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/uncut-gems-disagree-i-disagree-adam-sandler-eye-glasses-gif-17788346

[round elbow]

I noticed this chat barely mentioned Weasel and TJ Miller. I know the good reason for it

[smoky vapor]

Because TJ Miller is a hack

[lethal pagoda]

The marvels was a decent entertaining film

Not sure why it got so slated

I think there’s been a lot of dumping on the MCU; not everything has worked but if anything i feel the casting announcement for Doom is a bit desperate

[half coyote]

I think the singing bit really didn't help

[coarse ginkgo]

You hate fun if you didn’t like Deadpool & Wolverine but you hate bad movies if you didn’t like The Marvels

[empty sand]

Looks like I hate fun.

[strange spoke]

I got a question then

Rq

Why did that work, and this didn’t?

I felt this had better chemistry between the cast members that actually coincided with the story

They actually have a sort of arc with there friendship have some sort of conflict and resolution that’s help me by the chemistry between them

Hell it’s similar when to Kamala Khan when you think about it, with Deadpool being a lower tier hero meeting his idol as he navigates the reality’s of his his hero really is.

Calumniating in this fight scene where they have a fallout between them that actually challenges there views of each other, unlike the marvels where Kamala khan seems to have no problem watching her hero leave a bunch of people for dead.

By the end when Wolverine offers to give his life for Wades world, I actually bought it

[mental yoke]

Idk I thought it was silly fun and fun lol

[mental yoke]

Actually she did

It just wasn't entirely verbal

[strange spoke]

Where?

[mental yoke]

When Cap was telling Kamala to get on the ship so she could leave Kamala was saying that they couldn't leave the people there and Cap said they had to save who they could. And then after that Kamala went quiet and was glaring at Cap for a while

[strange spoke]

And that’s it

Nothing else

[mental yoke]

There could've been more to it but I think the fast pace is to blame for it

[strange spoke]

Last less then a scene

[mental yoke]

Nah it comes back up again when Kamala initiates the escape to that random planet

[strange spoke]

Not enough, this should have been character changing

She just watched her beloved hero let people die and all we get is a glance and she forgives her a scene later

And that’s it

[mental yoke]

There is actually stuff in the comics about Ms. Marvel challenging Captain Marvel herself and it hasn't come up yet cause it's a single movie that isn't focused on Kamala only, it's focused on three other characters

Something like that would come up in a more Kamala centric movie or her own show

[strange spoke]

To bad it wasn’t on the movie

So I can’t really take it into consideration

[mental yoke]

Yeah I'm saying the movie wasn't only focused on Kamala so they didn't have room for that kind of plot development even though it would've added a lot to it. All I can hope for is a second season of her show or a more Kamala centric movie

Because she is a popular character and people do like her

[strange spoke]

And that’s one of the reasons why it think it’s a bad film, with hallow characters

[mental yoke]

I don't think that makes it bad

[strange spoke]

Kamala Khans actress carried

[mental yoke]

I also actually think the opposite

[strange spoke]

Hallow characters don’t do it for me.

[mental yoke]

The most 1D character is Monica. We didn't get enough time with her. But they gave Captain Marvel more development and she felt more like a character to me

It felt like more of Captain Marvel's film if anything

She got the most screen time and character development

[strange spoke]

What development?

Her whole thing was abounding Monica is easily resolved

There’s no resentment that is slowly throughout the film turns into forgiveness

[mental yoke]

She blames herself for what happened on Hala (Hela?) and thinks she shouldn't be allowed to go home until she fixes it or makes up for it.

And Monica doesn't forgive her right away

[strange spoke]

Because….she did mess up Hela

She wiped out an entire planet for personal revenge

And again? Kamala khan is cool with it

[mental yoke]

Not really

[strange spoke]

Wdym

[mental yoke]

She didn't do it on purpose though. She had no idea killing the AI would result in a civil war

[strange spoke]

She legit instantly forgives her when she’s told

[mental yoke]

Yeah because she didn't do it on purpose

And it's not like she handwaved it either

She's been actively trying to make up for it

[strange spoke]

I think it is

I mean look at it from this point

Instead of having any sort of emotional conflict with this plot point they write something where Carol is as morally vindicated as possible

It’s boring

[mental yoke]

Not really

[strange spoke]

Yes really

[mental yoke]

She blames herself and fixes the mess she created

[strange spoke]

She spent years fixing it

And they forgive her

[mental yoke]

They don't forgive her

[strange spoke]

And she’s feels bad

[strange spoke]

They do

[mental yoke]

They just recognize that she's helped them out

[strange spoke]

The whole scene where she tells them

They’re cool with it

[mental yoke]

But nowhere shows they forgave her

We don't even get a scene of them interesting on Hala

She just goes into the sun and fixes it

[strange spoke]

EXACTLY

No emotional resentment

No conflict

No “you don’t wanna meant your hero’s”

[mental yoke]

wtf are they gonna do lmao

Run up to the sun and acost her about it

[strange spoke]

Idk, maybe have Kamala khan have some conflict with she idol

[mental yoke]

That's what I'm saying though that's a genuine fault the movie has that was the result of them going super fast with the pacing and also the movie focusing on three characters

[strange spoke]

Have her begin to see that peol aren’t perfect? And Carol isn’t all she thought she was?

[strange spoke]

And that makes it a bland movie

And it makes Carol just as wooden as when it started

[mental yoke]

We're not really gonna see eye to eye on this so agree to disagree

[strange spoke]

And if they want to push her to the forefront they’re not doing much they except making her a bland powerhouse.

[strange spoke]

And that’s fine

[strange spoke]

You know something they should’ve gone into a least a little more?

She has a BF now right?

What’s there relationship like, why not have something where Dar Ben takes him hostage

[random token]

who has a bf now?

[strange spoke]

Carol

Remember that guy

[random token]

thats not her bf

they married for political reasons

[coarse ginkgo]

https://fixvx.com/MarvelStudios/status/1821998466790481982

@idle hemlock First HD look at your boy

[idle hemlock]

I saw the film tho, Mando

Lol

I guess its not HD but the screen was big

https://tenor.com/view/blade-wesley-snipes-deadpool-and-wolverine-eric-brooks-walking-gif-11314910434756776075

[coarse ginkgo]

Now you can look at him from your sofa

[lone bone]

I wonder if Deadpool & Wolverine will get the Once Upon a Deadpool treatment

Which reminds me, I need to get a copy of Once Upon a Deadpool. It's not on Disney+

[real monolith]

hopefully not. PG-13 heroes with healing factors fundamentally does not work

[sour night]

wolverine was still awesome in xmen 2, a pg-13 film
https://youtu.be/haclukZmq3U?feature=shared

these characters can still be violent but not so graphic to be considered cool and badass

[real monolith]

i disagree. all PG-13 depictions of Wolverine have been failures in my eyes. Sure you can show a less violent version, but why when you can show him in the proper R rated setting?

Bloodless massacres are boring

[sour night]

If you say so

[round elbow]

The Wolverine was great as PG13. It still showed blood and scars

Same with the cartoons and old comics

[real monolith]

to you. to me it was a failure

[round elbow]

It was still brutal for a PG13 movie

Especially the nuke scene

[real monolith]

not brutal enough

[round elbow]

Seeing Wolverine’s flesh getting burned was pretty crazy

[real monolith]

Logan was better than all of them

i think the R rating had something to do with it...

[round elbow]

No it’s because it had a better story

[real monolith]

PG-13 Logan wouldve sucked tho

[round elbow]

No because the writing would be just as good

[real monolith]

nah, you cant not show what an over the top violent character does in pg-13. the R rating secured a more faithful Wolverine story

[round elbow]

Logan was made to be a story of survival and love. It wasn’t made just for goreporn

[real monolith]

of course not, but there is gore and it showed for the 1wst time what wolverine is and how he kills

[solemn wasp]

This is why PG-13 sucks everytime even on horror

[round elbow]

The other movies showed enough. The only difference is that there wasn’t as much blood and gore but there was blood in the older films

[round elbow]

Jaws

[real monolith]

im glad you liked them

[solemn wasp]

The strong violence is what make Wolverine so special because he doesn’t care about everything

[round elbow]

Poltergeist

[real monolith]

i personally hate every pg-13 depiction of Wolverine

[solemn wasp]

I prefer Deep Blue Sea over Jaws

https://boxd.it/3amTL5

[round elbow]

Everyone liked Hugh Jackman regardless

It’s still a masterpiece

[real monolith]

rated PG and is basically a toddlers 1st 'horror' film

[round elbow]

The face ripping scene alone would’ve made it an R rating today

[real monolith]

nothing in Poltergeist is scary to anyone above the age of 7. and it would be pg-13 today, no chance itd get an r rating

[round elbow]

Even with all the blood and body horror?

[solemn wasp]

Today would be PG-13 for violent content and terror

[round elbow]

I’ve barely seen any PG13 movies today with blood and gore besides Dr Strange 2

[solemn wasp]

Try The Shallows

Had bloody images

[empty sand]

The Impossible 2012. Though brief, you see Naomi Watts’s leg peeled off.

If anything the further we were from the Super Bowl Janet Jackson incident, the less stringent the MPAA was with films rated PG-13.

I remember that shift with The Lost City of Z (2017) it featured cannibals, WW1 and a bit of nudity that was PG13

Suicide Squad is a notable change of this but that film was a bit shy of showing off some extreme deaths like Slip knot.

[tidal saddle]

https://youtu.be/Km2wuMealjE?si=JId46KBgTYVRlEpV

Fucking Finally

the film version is here

https://youtu.be/z11jxaOu_Cw?si=yJ-Is6W1wYS9oql6

also the version when Wolverine shirt explodes

[warped nova]

The music was very good in this

[sour night]

tbh I can't really remember the soundtrack to a film from this year besides love lies bleeding

was the only one where the score impacted a scene and felt memorable

[empty sand]

Same for me outside of Dune Part 2’s Chani and Paul love song

I think it’s “Kiss the Ring”

[hushed nexus]

or when he rides that huge sandworm. pretty great soundtrack for that movie

[mental yoke]

WHEN YOU CALL MY NAME ITS LIKE A LITTLE PRAYER

[strange spoke]

Naya I swear every time I turn my head you got a new pfp🤣

Your like the chameleon

[coarse ginkgo]

https://t.co/wuhFXkW4CO

[tidal saddle]

nice

[mental yoke]

that rant from Hugh is still hilarious lol

[frozen summit]

I just realized is the X-23 at the end of the movie native Earth-10005 Laura reconnecting with the variant Wolverine or is it void Laura?

[coarse ginkgo]

https://fxtwitter.com/shawnlevydirect/status/1823001264302559348

[indigo geyser]

That is a great question

[round elbow]

I just rewatched DP2 last night and it was a completely different feeling

Even though I enjoyed it, it did not feel like a comic book movie compared to 3

It’s even more apparent with 1 which I also rewatched before 3. I think they wanted to make a John Wick in a costume movie

[indigo geyser]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8184cHF/

[round elbow]

This is a good video explaining what my thoughts are
https://youtu.be/hrAbQTT7m64?feature=shared

[tidal saddle]

https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1823074407952380127

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) on X

New concept art for ‘DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE’ includes Ben Affleck’s Daredevil and Nicolas Cage’s Ghost Rider.

(Credit: Rodney Fuentebella)

Twitter · Aug 12, 2024, 7:09 PM

[sour night]

cage seems to really refuse to be in a mcu movie huh

[round elbow]

Or DC

Whatever at least we’re getting Ryan Gosling

Maybe

[topaz vessel]

gosling's in the MCU?

[round elbow]

It’s rumored he might play Ghost Rider

Even if he’s not I’ll prefer anyone else as Ghost Rider over Nick Cage

[coarse ginkgo]

Not rumoured

[round elbow]

What just a fan cast?

https://fandomwire.com/this-movie-is-going-to-bomb-not-all-marvel-fans-are-happy-with-ryan-gosling-playing-ghost-rider-in-midnight-sons-movie-rumors/

[coarse ginkgo]

Just a fancast and Ryan himself saying he’d be interested

[warped nova]

It’s real

[coarse ginkgo]

Don’t you encourage people

[topaz vessel]

Honestly I wish they would stick with the kid who did young Johnny Blaze in the Ghost rider movie.

Looks more like Johnny Blaze.

[meager rune]

Probably gonna go see this on Wednesday with friends

Im so excited

Still havent seen the second Deadpool though

Probably will watch it tomorrow

[sour night]

From what I remember it didn't have any impact on this movie's plot except you wouldn't be familiar with the "Peter" character

[smoky vapor]

I still really like this film but I’m putting my stars down to 3.5

[ashen crypt]

The actor said she was

[sacred ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/gambit-channing-tatum-wooimmamake-woo-wooimmamakeaname-gif-689747768459140328

[round elbow]

Which one?

[ashen crypt]

Dafne keen

[round elbow]

No is it Earth-10005 Laura or void Laura?

[random token]

they are the same laura

[ashen crypt]

The question was whether they are the same

[smoky vapor]

I really wish the movie’s climax wasn’t just generic marvel climax because they’re trying the excuse of “we made fun of it so its ok if we do it too”

[sour night]

People will be like "that's deadpool's thing he can get away with it"

[half coyote]

I kind of feel like it isn't though because generic marvel climax is 'punch the baddie till they can't be bad anymore' and this was very much the self-sacrifice route

[sour night]

erm, how about he makes clever ways around a cliche or trope he points out instead of going along with it anyways

[half coyote]

like, Cassandra was not a baddie that could be overcome with physical force.

[random token]

i'm confused as to how deadpool & wolverine had a "generic marvel climax"

name one other marvel movie where the villain is defeated with the power of hugh jackman's abs

it kinda reminded me of the gotg ending

and that was definitely not a "generic climax"

not to mention that the first deadpool movie ended with a big action sequence

was that a generic marvel climax too?

[round elbow]

The Last Stand

[random token]

ok fair

you got me there lol

[round elbow]

But is there a movie where the hero fights a bunch of alternate versions of himself?

[random token]

no there is not