#đŸŽ„ Madame Web

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smoky linden
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DJ on Madame Web 2: “oh totally down”
DJ once everyone can stop pretending: “Nope never again”

royal spade
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She did change talent agencies the moment the first trailer dropped for a reason lol

queen furnace
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Why did she even choose this lmao

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Do they not know about Sony Spiderverse to be shit?

rustic dawn
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I'm pretty sure she just expected the Marvel franchise type deal

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She would have been an interesting madam web tho. A younger version that lasts longer, but who could've seen the blunder.

modest dawn
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I still haven’t watched this

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I want to see how bad it is

upbeat gyro
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Basically Sony is straight up lying to the cast

supple mesa
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Sony such a dummi

royal spade
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Like, a lot lot

upbeat gyro
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Jeez what was Sony cookin

modest dawn
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what made her think she's part of the MCU lol

upbeat gyro
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Maybe the way they worded it to her

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She tagged Marvel Studios in her post a while ago

leaden ocean
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Is this a good hate watch experience in theatres with the girlfriend?

supple mesa
leaden ocean
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oh thats a great sign, thanks 🙂

supple mesa
leaden ocean
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Oh of course, it might not be soon but yes!

lime meteor
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you want to be in an environment where you can freely comment without disturbing anyone

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maybe wait for Vod?

leaden ocean
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Oh we definitely are going to. dune 2 will be the theatre experience this week

neat mango
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@supple mesa is it really that good in ur opinion?

supple mesa
neat mango
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I havent watched it so i cant have an opinion yet

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but is it kinda like those movies that are nothing like the trailer only in a good way

supple mesa
neat mango
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I'll watch it after KFP4

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and dune 2

supple mesa
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Aiight

neat mango
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Yeah currently my movie queue list is

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  1. KFP 4
  2. Dune 2
  3. Madame web
royal spade
supple mesa
bold mirage
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Please god don;t

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don't do it bruh

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You're better off eating youre own toe nails

bold mirage
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Please god

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Let it die

queen furnace
bold mirage
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Well

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More for me

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proceeds to open bag of toe nails

supple mesa
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Framer please dont do that mental image

bold mirage
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YUMMMM

supple mesa
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joke is on u i didnt read that

queen furnace
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You should become a writer

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Coz you are nailing the dialogues

bold mirage
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But idk

neat mango
leaden ocean
leaden ocean
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or at least for me who wants to be a part of any discourse

bold mirage
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It's fallen off

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Dune 2 is all the talk rn

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The most Madme Web had while it was in the spot light was it getting shat on.

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But do as you will

rustic dawn
leaden ocean
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LMAO

muted cedar
peak panther
neat mango
muted cedar
modest dawn
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When does it come on VOD?

smoky linden
modest dawn
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lol

upbeat gyro
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A fixed door doesn’t pay the rent

sullen schooner
fallen kernel
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It is now obvious and clear to everyone that Madame Web is:

  1. Successful money laundering scheme
  2. Temporary solution for Sony to keep and extend license of Spiderman characters
  3. Keeping Sony's Spider-Man Universe alive by any means necessary
bold mirage
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This was made out of l necessity

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Nothing else

fallen kernel
royal spade
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SJ Clarkson will be fine, I think, she's got a solid career in television directing to fall back on

fallen kernel
smoky linden
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yeah, Clarkson is definitely really not in fault here. She was just a hired hand

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Can't imagine she had control over final cut or anything like that

royal spade
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https://fxtwitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1768042139227758899

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Sydney Sweeney says she isn’t bothered about ‘MADAME WEB’ bombing.

“I was just hired as an actress in it, so I was just along for the ride for whatever was going to happen.”

(Source: https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2024-03-12/sydney-sweeney-immaculate-sxsw-director-michael-mohan)

supple mesa
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Seen this seven timesc loved it every time!
May buy the steelbook if i can afford

sullen schooner
bold mirage
finite shale
modest dawn
grand sequoia
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This was such a mess from the script to the editing to the acting from the main villain. Yeah I see why people think this is garbage.

modest dawn
atomic basin
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Is this at least worth seeing for how bad it is? lol

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Wait, it's not in my theaters anymore lol, never mind

granite crest
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It’s mildly entertaining at parts but mostly boring

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Also it’s on PVOD now

atomic basin
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Dakota Johnson does look attractive though, personally prefered she was taller. but eh

finite shale
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Saw this and I am on the side of the people that didn’t like it. I thought it was bad

modest dawn
royal spade
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Say what you want about this movie but this shot goes hard

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bold mirage
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Doesn’t save the film

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We got goofy ass shit like this bruh.

finite shale
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That made me laugh because it’s so stupid 😂

muted cedar
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lmao

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Spider?

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SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

bold mirage
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Or a part of it

supple mesa
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Yeah its the letter of the sign that falls and triggers the collapse that makes Ezekiel fall to the ground.

royal spade
bold mirage
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Even tho, he can punch a fire work.

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And get hit by a car

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And can lanch multiple policemen across a room

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...

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This film is dumb ash

supple mesa
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Oh shit sorry! Meant to reply but it slipped my mind.

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I’ll send you my thoughts on that when i wake tomorrow

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too tired to brain tn

split kraken
supple mesa
split kraken
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Sameee

bold mirage
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We’re you talking about me?

supple mesa
# bold mirage ?

Yeah, i just havent replied yet because ive been waking up still lol

bold mirage
supple mesa
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You replied to me so i assumed you wanted me to reply lol

bold mirage
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I was just confused, lol

supple mesa
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ah

supple mesa
bold mirage
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I’m open for debate

supple mesa
# bold mirage Which apparently kills him.

At this point I think it is clear he’s been weakened enough for this to happen. He’s still got strength clearly but the ton of metal falling onto him was the straw that broke the camel’s back, and made him immobile just long enough for the sign to fall, making him fall as well. He doesn’t die from the fall itself, but the heavy-ass sign letter definitely does him in. He isn’t invincible.

Also, Cassie realizes that what she heard way back in the beginning - Julia’s scream - and also heard in her visions minutes earlier, has to happen for her to win against Ezekiel. So everything she does leads up to that, even when the helicopter plan goes a bit awry; she’s still working towards the ultimate end goal that was foreshadowed early on. She needed to be up there on the sign when it collapsed to get Ezekiel trapped there enough to make him fall and get killed. Getting hit by the ambulance clearly does affect his stamina by a bit, as do other hits he takes throughout. Its a slow burner of a plan, but she’s able to weaken him enough to the point that he can be pinned by the metal.

Its also worth noting that while Ezekiel clearly has strength, he doesn’t seem to have the high level of it that spiderman does; we don’t see him throwing heavy things; he mostly is fighting, crawling on walls/ceilings, and has his poison. So from that we can look at not just the amount of heavy metal that landed atop of him, and the force with which it did, he wouldn’t have been able to shove it off. So it makes sense that Cassie was able to kill him in this way, by spotting the Achilles’ Heel and making use of her environment and future sight to overcome the obstacles that his powers present.

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Also taking into account the film’s commentary on toxic masculinity, and it being about these girls going up against it - a both literal and figurative ‘toxic’ man - this works thematically. His toxicity is rendered harmless. Compare him to Ben in the film, who is a contrast to Ezekiel in a lot of ways, and also shows positive masculinity that isn’t harmful. Ezekiel wants to kill the three girls just to keep his own life, and the song ‘Toxic’ playing in the diner scene, while also adding to the fun of that scene, adds to this theme as well. Ben, on the other hand, is caring and genuine, and tries to protect the girls - and Mary - as much as he is able to. Ezekiel’s death thematically represents the slow progress of gender equality in its fight against toxicity. The preparation, planning, foresight and decision-making needed to take him down takes considerable time and effort from all four of the leading ladies, who also receive help from Ben, who as I said before, is thematically a counterpart and contrast to Ezekiel. They’re fighting for their lives in a literal sense, but also fighting against and taking down a significant toxicity and burden in their lives. The film obviously doesn’t use this to say that by removing the toxicity from your life, sexism and gender inequality are solved.

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Rather, it is saying how important such progress is, and its an uplifting message to everyone that they can fight and win against toxicity and can control their fate - as Cassie does through the film - and should fight for their rights. With the proper, planning and guidance, the film says that change like this can be powerful and remarkable, as well as imploring the viewers(especially young girls) to take aim against toxicity in their lives, and also that while you do need to be careful about it depending on the situation - such as how Julia, Anya and Mattie needed to be careful about not being seen - it is okay to be helped along and out of a toxic situation, and you should reach out for help, like how the girls eventually implore Cassie to help them. The film also does use the diner scene to warn against being overly impulsive, and rather you should think your situations over, as Cassie does, to ensure a better outcome. You will need to make decisions on the fly sometimes, like she does, but overall it is important to think things through before speaking and acting.

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Its strongly thematically implied to be a message about going up against toxic masculinity, and I think its inspiring for young women especially in that regard. However, it is also clearly about toxicity in general, and has that as an undercurrent.

royal spade
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You're good at this, Izzy

supple mesa
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Thanks <3

supple mesa
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broke it twice

bold mirage
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You wrote slot

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And I got a lot to say.

bold mirage
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Where was this estalished?

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The film made never the attempted to make it clear that he was either being strained or over using his powers, especially when pulls of feats that would require more strenght and for longer periods of time.

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And BTW, just because a character's strenght is depleted doesn't have anything to do with the amount of punishment they can endure. The man has enough resistants to block a firework that blows through a brick wall. The level of fire power required for that rocket to do that implies a level of endurance that is instantly negated in the next scene.

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Again, the ability to deal punnishment, and take it, are two different things. It I'm strong enough to punch a brick wall without breaking skin, then my skin must be very durable. My stamina has nothing to do with that.

bold mirage
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I don't care what message the film is trying to champion. If the writting is down the toliet, and the charatcers are unlikable and bland, it frankly doesn't matter.

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I'm not gonna give a film the pass simply because it deals with a certain topic or has a take I may agreement. It's the execution of said topic that has me concerned.

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One sec, gotta walk to class.

supple mesa
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Will reply later, gonna be in Oppenheimer and talking to coworkers

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i wont forget this time dont worry

bold mirage
supple mesa
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I love debating like this its fun, thanks for engaging with me lol

bold mirage
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But tbh I'd also like to challege the idea of this being a feminist movie. Because honestly, any persosn that has an inkling of who these characters are in terms of there comic book counter parts would laugh at the shell of what Madame Web does with them.

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This is Julia Carpenter

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She can kick ass, take names, defend herself, doesn't take shit from anyone.

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Verse this, which is just the laughing stock of what she is.

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A generic shy girl, who does nothing and needs to be saved through out the entire film.

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And gets smacked aside like she's nothing.

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All she get's is a vision, that isn't even accurate because he gets killed by a sign and Cassie has to save her from falling.

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Same goes for the rest of them. All 3 of them

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Again, I understand this is a "origin story" and it's trying to be "more grounded" but how is supplementing these characters with these bland arcutypes that do nothing, an improvement or equal to what we got here?

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They're basicly just mcGuffins who make stupid decisions .There unintresting, boring, forgettable characters, who ammount to the sterotypically shalllow label this film gives them and does not intent to flesh out at any point in time.

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They do less then Mary Jane does in any Spiderman comic book, because at least she researches shit, at least she gets intel on villains. Just because they're children doesn't mean they have to be writting like a bunch of dumbassses with no likablility, espcially if you want me to care if they die or not.

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You wanna know an example of a character who's a kid, doesn't suit up till the climax, isn't a dumb ass but still makes mistakes that don't feel forced or contrived so the plot can move forward?

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It's the same company too and the same IP, so I don't want to hear "I can't make comparisons."

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But, if you want me to scale down and pick something that isn't 100% a masterpiece.

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Hell, let me pick one that falls into the same type of plot.

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Even Cassie, is dumb as shit.

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She leaves a bunch of fucking kids, in the middle of no where, with no food. I can't think of any rational adult that would leave a bunch of kids who don't know her. Why doesn't she go to the police? Multiple officers both witness and we're injured in the tunnel scene, why would they think she's lying?

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There's a fucking guy on the ceiling, that all the girls she's "kidnapping" also witnessed, why does she not at least try to explain she believed that they we're in danger and hand them to the police? She keeps harping on the fact, throughout the entire film, that she does not want to be a part of what's going on, yet she makes no effort to get herself out of a situation that she is actively being incriminated in.

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At the very most she would be taken into custody, mutable officers and the girls would testify, not the mention the film says that there is a network of cameras everywhere that would at the very least capture strange anomaly's and fast movements on the grainy early 2000s footage, and once again mutable cops are injured being flung into the walls leaving dents where they land. The whole argument of "they won't believe her" the writers want to use falls apart when they consider how unstealth like Ezekeal's approach.

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She also, thinks it's a grand idea to steal a cab car, something that is company owned and would quickly be reported as missing and can be identified by the cab's unit numbers written on the side (and its license plate, which again she would've gotten pulled over for removing)

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EVEN IF, she thinks, “well I'm trying to keep them safe” what makes her think the middle of the fucking woods is safer than a reinforced police department?

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It literally show's her leaving the country because somehow,
she has access to a plane (which is another plot hole, but whatever) and again, for some fucking reason she leaves them at Ben's house ENDANGERING HIM, and his pregnant wife, instead of taking the girls with her. Again, if the whole point is to protect these kids, and we aren't really worried about at the legallity of our actions (stealing a cab, ramming a taxi into a dinner) why not move them out the country, where the Eziekeles CCTV cams can't pick them up.

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Like this film only works if you have disregard logic or even the logic the film presents to you.

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It's same goes for Ezikiel's powers, and all the other weird ass shit surrounding it.

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This is just the plot, I'm not even going into the characters themselves.

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Sorry, I hate this film. This is one of the worst super hero movies I've persoanlly seen.

grand sequoia
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I’m still confused she was able to leave the country even though she’s wanted for kidnapping lol such dumb writing.

bold mirage
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Don't think about it

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Because I'm sure you could just walk into an airport, with an active warrant for kidnapping

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ESCPAILLY FOR KIDNAPPING

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Fucking stupid

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Even when you follow the world of this films logic, it's inconsistent

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This shit isn't grounded, it just lacks the comic book fun of its genre and call's itself subversive for doing so.

royal spade
bold mirage
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Why does this take place in the 2000s?

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What's the fucking point, it does nothing with it

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All they do is give the characters some 2000's esc clothing and that's it.

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Ntohing about this feels like it takes place in that era.

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Might as well have been an alternate universe where PP is born in the 2020s

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Espcially since you want the villian to have access to a CCTV networth advanced enough to work on one computer for cameras throughout the entire city.

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It's dumb as fuck.

bold mirage
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Like you're telling me this medic, isn't effected by 9/11

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Maybe that event played some role in the story right?

royal spade
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Especially because it's, you know, set in New York

bold mirage
modest dawn
bold mirage
slow whale
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we want madame web 2

lime meteor
muted cedar
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good luck getting that sequel lmao

lime meteor
bold mirage
slow whale
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ofc but itll prob never happen 💔

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that movie tanked LOL

bold mirage
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Damn

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Welp sorry to say but, hell no

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Fuck no

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Never gonna happen.

slow whale
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i didnt take it so seriously so it was just an entertaining watch for me

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all the plotholes were amusing to see

bold mirage
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You mean as a so bad it's good?

slow whale
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yesss exactly

bold mirage
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Ah

slow whale
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i already came in with poor expectations LOL

bold mirage
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I can see that yeah

uncut bluff
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i went in with bottom level expectations and still managed to get disappointed

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pretty incredible to achieve that

lime meteor
granite crest
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Man that video had some great writing. Nice to see them tear it a new asshole

bold mirage
sullen schooner
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Have you seen my webs that I use for 1 min in the movie?

smoky linden
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I feel bad honestly for any actor having to go on a press tour for a film that’s so obviously a giant turd

mortal sedge
muted cedar
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madame this web

sullen schooner
ebon scroll
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It shouldn’t have begun?

loud coyote
# leaden ocean Oh we definitely are going to. dune 2 will be the theatre experience this week

I just read the comments to this point.
||If you haven’t seen dune 2 with your girl?, don’t
 I’m not saying don’t watch it. Just don’t watch it with your girl. It’s a movie you want to see with your boys, and talk sh11 about it after. That’s how good it is.
[My second comment is from another comment you posted]
You could watch madame web with your girl. Though, the movie is not what you might think? (No cameo) lol||
Your choice đŸ€·

loud coyote
muted cedar
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Madame Web was boring af, should not even be mention on the same sentence as Dune 2, that was so enterteining for me.

loud coyote
sand zinc
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L movie

muted cedar
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L movie indeed

bold mirage
smoky linden
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Bad writing, bad acting from bad chemistry, hell bad sound design/ADR, all of these things could be the reason or all of them lol

finite shale
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😂

loud coyote
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Very Conan O’Brian response lol

supple mesa
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I still love this film

supple mesa
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Gotta rewatch again

smoky linden
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Marketing really did only have the one picture to work with lol

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royal spade
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I do not envy whoever was on the Madame Web marketing team

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Because I am familiar with the work of the company who made the trailer and they are genuinely very talented people who deserve far better than that

granite crest
supple mesa
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@unkempt fog Sooo im curiouss

Firstly, What was your favourite scene?

Mine is probably the metro(subway) scene or the diner scene!

And also, favourite performance?

unkempt fog
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I like the scene where ezekiel sims is talking with his like chairwoman and the words aren't matching his lips

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Favorite performance goes to Adam Scott he's genuinely good in this one

supple mesa
unkempt fog
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Love this to bits

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I was at a friend's party the other week and she had this on and every once in a while some insane shit would happen and people would look up

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Truly a masterpiece

bold mirage
unkempt fog
bold mirage
unkempt fog
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I do love it

smoky linden
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At the least this film won’t be an active detriment to the casts careers going forward. Though it does more expose just how weak a performer Dakota is

bold mirage
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Stick to small indie shit, don’t handle major IPS.

mortal sedge
smoky linden
final venture
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Ive seen way worse thinfs released in 2024

muted cedar
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According to my rank I seen 3 worse films released in 2024

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lol

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Rank has 64 films atm

final venture
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ive seen 16 worse things than this

granite crest
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https://fxtwitter.com/hollywoodhandle/status/1801662583109230963

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Russel Crowe talks about Dakota Johnson comments about ‘MADAME WEB:’

“You're telling me you signed up for a Marvel movie, and some f-cking universe for cartoon characters... and you didn't get enough pathos? If you're expecting this to be some kind of life-changing event, I just think you're here for the wrong reasons.”

(Via: https://www.gq-ma...

lime meteor
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he really is in his 'fuck everyone' years

muted cedar
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Russell be like

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lol

royal spade
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I mean, he's not wrong

muted cedar
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100 % right

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but is nice to see him not giving a fuck and just saying what he thinks

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lol

smoky linden
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Surely at this point all involved with Madame Web can be more straight up about how the paycheque was really the only thing appealing lol

gleaming obsidian
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chat I haven’t seen the movie but idc about spoilers

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is this worth watching purely to laugh at it

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I feel like it’ll either make me laugh

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or it’ll depress me

lime meteor
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oh yeah, watch it to laugh at it

gleaming obsidian
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because it’s a terrible comic book movie that’s irreversibly ruined the reputation of a comic character

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so while it would be funny
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😔

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it would also be really sad

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seeing the industry I love (comics) be taken advantage of like this and bastardised so thoroughly

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another casualty

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so much brainrot

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it’s like watching your child be bullied at school

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like man

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but on the other hand teehee haha funny bad movie

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I hate having to constantly go around convincing people that comics and their adaptations aren’t valid, meaningless corporate pieces of shitty media with no substance

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it’s depressing

lime meteor
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it's a business

gleaming obsidian
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as someone that actually reads those comics daily

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and cares about them

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man

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like I said

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it’s like watching your child getting bullied

lime meteor
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well, I can't help you there

final venture
muted cedar
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always a good endorsement ☝

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lmao

gleaming obsidian
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I personally enjoyed it but I rarely read comics so I don’t think my opinion is valid.

gleaming obsidian
supple mesa
gleaming obsidian
supple mesa
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I dont read comics whatsoever

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well, western comics anyway

gleaming obsidian
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because of the sheer depth the comic versions of these characters have by comparison

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the style they have being way more interesting and appealing (at least to me) in most cases

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there’s some exceptions though

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like for example I think netflix Daredevil, despite some annoying stuff here and there, is a pretty spot on adaptation

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sure it doesn’t have the same depth the comics do but

it’s pretty faithful

final venture
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Amd ive seen worse things this year

muted cedar
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Madame Web

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Its not the worst thing in the world

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Amd ive seen worse things this year

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*In a theater near you... *

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đŸ€Ł

supple mesa
granite crest
muted cedar
supple mesa
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It was such a good rewatch

bold mirage
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Let it die

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Let it rest in it's grave.

supple mesa
bold mirage
supple mesa
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Hi

bold mirage
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You’re to much fun

granite crest
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I mean dang, Karmas honest

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Always need honest people

bold mirage
sullen schooner
gleaming obsidian
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This movie is kinda emotional for me because it reminds me of my mom who was in the Amazon, researching spiders, right before she died

unkempt fog
final venture
gleaming obsidian
fallen kernel
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I think we all agree that Madame Web is actually a masterpiece

final venture
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yes

gleaming obsidian
final venture
bold mirage
pseudo light