#šŸŽ„The Flash

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upbeat forum
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Originally they had Keaton in A2

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Then they removed the ending with him so they refilmed his scenes with Affleck

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Then they removed the ending with Affleck to the one we have now with Clooney

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But James Wan was fed up on constantly changing the movie around to fit The Flash and so was WB so they just cut those Batman scenes out

shell flower
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So is Affleck still that universes Batman since you say it takes place before Flash

upbeat forum
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It’s possible

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But they just removed references of Batman

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So we don’t actually know for sure you know what I mean

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Up to you whether you want to accept it as before or after

winged steeple
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and it doesn't matter

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schrƶdinger's batman

shell flower
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Yea. The Clooney thing is the main confusing part

upbeat forum
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Yeah we’re never going back to the dceu after Aquaman 2 so

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Doesn’t matter what you want to believe

winged steeple
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it's actually Pattinson in Aquaman 2

shell flower
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Gunn did say some actors will stay the same which will be interesting to see

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Waller is staying the same

upbeat forum
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Just suicide squad and peacemaker characters

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All of his ones

shell flower
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Ain't no way it's just his lmao

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That's funny

upbeat forum
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Honestly

winged steeple
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wasn't he partial to Momoa also

upbeat forum
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Not anymore

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Lobo now

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I think when the universe was first being shaped they were open to keeping more like Momoa or Zachary Levi

winged steeple
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maybe Momoa gets to play someone else

shell flower
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Gal might stay as wonder woman

upbeat forum
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Nah Gal is done

upbeat forum
winged steeple
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oh I thought Lobo was just the last name of some other actor

shell flower
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I saw something yesterday saying stuff will be shared when the time comes

winged steeple
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who now plays aquaman

shell flower
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Regarding wonder woman

upbeat forum
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There’s a new Wonder Woman coming

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Not a movie, but a show

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With a new actress under Gunn

upbeat forum
shell flower
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Paradise lost right?

upbeat forum
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I think so?

shell flower
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The slate is pretty odd

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But it all depends on how Gunn does on Superman Legacy

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Gonna be hard to live up to Man of Steel, almost perfect movie

winged steeple
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really?

shell flower
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I think so

winged steeple
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I haven't really seen a lot of people who think so I guess

shell flower
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Only thing I would want better is more Clark Kent, saving civilians/heroic shit, and a brighter simpler costume

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But the action has to stay the same

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The action in Snyder's movies are how every super hero movie should be, the effects are on point. Movies that come close are The Flash, Wonder Woman, Eternals

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You can feel the power, should be nothing less

winged steeple
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I've always found superfighting to be sort of boring because they beat the shit out of each other (and nearby buildings) but it never feels like it has any effect because they're all invincible

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it's always better when supers fight regular people or the other way around

rigid hawk
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Apparently the marketing budget was 150 million dollars

light parcel
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yeah the movie has BARELY made back its marketing budget šŸ’€

tidal obsidian
pallid onyx
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Why is Zaslav never factored into Snyderfans seething rage?

tidal obsidian
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Or Jason Kilar

pallid onyx
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I’d wager in their cases since they kinda kept the DCEU cast around they kept quiet. But Zaslav is the reason their precious Snyderverse is dead dead, and it’s James Gunn they’re railing at

tidal obsidian
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James Gunn is very prominent on Twitter. My guess is that's why

pallid onyx
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Zaslav’s easily the worst kind of studio head

tidal obsidian
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If I were him, I'd log off

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Zaslav reminds me of Chapek

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So not good

pallid onyx
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The prick introduced Hollywood to the idea of removing movies and shows from streamers for tax write offs, he’s sleazy and objectively anti-creative

tidal obsidian
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That's pretty much the description for every Hollywood suit

pallid onyx
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Show didn’t really catch on? Well delete that, that never happened

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He is the type of person people wait around for to do things so that they feel okay with being their worst selfs

tidal obsidian
# pallid onyx Show didn’t really catch on? Well delete that, that never happened

Yeah, because streaming hasn't been the big moneymaker everyone was hoping for, studios are very resistant to paying talent residuals/royalties. Currently, the WGA and SAG are locked in negotiations with the AMPTP, which represents the major studios, Big Four networkss, streaming services, etc. Royalties/residuals from streamers is one of the hot button issues.

kindred hedge
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snyderbros also have seething hatred for walter hamada even though hamada literally wasnt in charge at all during snyder's time

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its not rational

tidal obsidian
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But they'll gladly use anything for ammunition

kindred hedge
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oh they gave a shit about that mostly fake controversy

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he named hamada as a negotiating tactic for snyder, there was this big article where people at WB pointed out that, when doing the snyder cut reshoots, hamada would get louder, followed by snyders cult at the same time as snyders budget demands, or would name execs that snyder had a grudge with at the same time as snyder demanding they be uncredited

kindred hedge
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why even bother angrily tweeting what everybody, even those who arent in your peer group, knows?

tidal obsidian
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This is undoubtedly one of the problems with the DC films at the box-office. The fanbase is fractured and controversy clings to DC like shit on fur. Even if James Gunn is doing his own thing and Snyder is perfectly happy making Rebel Moon on Netflix, this pissing contest won't end.

kindred hedge
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eh i think itll end after this year, when aquaman 2 comes out and officially caps off the chaotic period

tidal obsidian
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I thought it would end when the Snyder Cut finally released

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Nope

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It just stoked the flames higher

kindred hedge
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oh those guys will never shut up

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but i think the feelings of chaos will subside for a bit when theres not much content coming out till gunns superman movie in like 2 years

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especially since the writers/possible actors strike will probably help extend that gap

tidal obsidian
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Superman might be DOA. Even if it's got a 99% RT score, an A+ Cinemascore, there may be too few people who go out and see it to give it legs. But maybe I'm just being pessimistic. Then again, I was pessimistic about Black Adam, Shazam and Flash.

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Never mind Blue Beetle.

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I'll be surprised if Zaslav doesn't shelve it.

kindred hedge
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superman will be fine, i think its an easy trap to assume online discussions will guide this

tidal obsidian
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Online discussion means nothing

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I'm talking about the general audience

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they don't care about DC

kindred hedge
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basically every exec who has touched DC in the last 10 years knows they need to do something with superman

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they care about superman

tidal obsidian
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We'll see

kindred hedge
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its not exactly blue beetle we talking about

tidal obsidian
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No, Blue Beetle is worse than DOA. Unless Latin American communities show up in droves to support it, it will probably make less than Shazam 2

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Superman hasn't had a solo film in over ten years. On the one hand, that might give Superman enough of a fresh start that people are receptive to it

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On the other hand, flop

cunning timber
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I don’t see Blue Beetle being good, honestly, judging from the trailer… I mean it’s going to be heavily centered around family I guess, but I don’t see it turning into ā€œLatino Iron Manā€

thin moth
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maybe it could be surprisingly entertaining like shazam

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but I doubt it

cunning timber
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Or surprisingly bad like Shazam 2… or worse… Wonder Woman 2 lol

tidal obsidian
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But so was The Flash. And I guess that didn't work out.

cunning timber
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Golden Age Blue Beetle… not new one

left scroll
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@uncut grotto

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Finished the flash

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The Mid Some good moments are shadowed by the overall bad stuff in this. There’s potential to Muschietti directing Batman: Brave and the Bold but this movie is plagued by the Ā mess of a 9 year long production. Watching it in Dolby probably made it a 2.5/5 instead of a 2/5

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I will say that original score goes hard

uncut grotto
left scroll
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What about it

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I think the third act, like most superhero movies, went off the rails as fast as Flash can run

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There’s the whole ā€œI wanna save this world because this is where mom livesā€ but the whole damn journey doesn’t matter because it’s a fixed point in time and the world dies eitherway

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Tho Keaton was pretty cool I’ll admit that

thin moth
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Yeah the last act made the whole 2nd act completely pointless to see and witness

left scroll
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Precisely

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I don’t know if that’s James Gunn’s call but it’s a pretty bad final act

pallid onyx
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I think the only thing Gunn did was switch Keaton out of the ending with Clooney

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could be wrong

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The film was an amalgm of three administrations differing takes so its weird to just saddle one person with it

tidal obsidian
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He took out Keaton

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Calle

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Gadot and Cavill

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But he had next to nothing to do with the movie

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I'm sure he provided some other notes beyond the ending

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But this movie was cooked up by the previous WB regimes

pallid onyx
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I figure it makes sense to take them out cause if this is either serving as the DCEU finale or the springboard of the new take it would be awkward to retain the old guard. Guess they thought Ezra was worth salvaging until the shitshow of last year, but going by the glowing praise from the crew despite it all seemed they felt it was worth trying

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Luckily people soundly slapped that down

uncut grotto
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Those former endings just sets up a dc future thats not gonna get followed up

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It would've just meant instead of keaton coming to meet barry after the court ruling its the JL cast

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That would've fundamentally changed nothing of the film's quality if anything the clooney thing leaves u with a laugh

tidal obsidian
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Nothing from the previous regime will likely move onto Gunn’s universe

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Maybe with the exception of Peacemaker, I guess

pallid onyx
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and that has generated intense resentment from the fanboys

cunning timber
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Boy, it was a MORE than 70% drop... ayyyayayay

upbeat forum
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Owow

pallid onyx
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Michael Keaton: ā€œI returned as Batman for th- actually fuck it, cheques clearedā€

scenic vale
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Kevin Conroy should’ve played Batman ||flash could’ve gone back in time and you know, do flash things, and bam Kevin is back||

upbeat forum
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Bazinga

scenic vale
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Ha, cause that’s actually what he says

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Why does this channel have 2 hearts?
I understand the pay one meaning losing budget ||guessing||?
But who actually loved this movie?

winged steeple
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it's not a bad movie

scenic vale
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I didn’t say was. I understand you could’ve liked the movie, but love, to give it 2 hearts ? Lol

winged steeple
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one can only give one heart, it's two people giving one heart

scenic vale
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Yeah lol. Still not worth a heart.

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The movie just passed your heart @winged steeple Flash was just to fast lol

uncut grotto
uncut grotto
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Flash losing all its imax screeens

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Tomorrow

rigid lance
rigid lance
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L EZRA

uncut grotto
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L

wheat shard
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L Andy 😢

uncut grotto
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Andy will be just fine

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I doubt gunn will walk back from andy doing brave and the bold unless his vision sucks

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If he was kathleen kennedy yeah andy would be fired and then gunn will say "andy was actually never doing it anyway you giys made it up"

thin moth
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Flash looks stupid at walking slow while everything else around him is moving fast

cunning timber
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I think it was ok, it’s like the opposite effect of those giant puppets in events walking slow with people puppeteering them almost at running speeds lol… I think that would’ve looked sillier

real ingot
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Man the flash was DC at full force trying to make a bad movie, its honestly an achievement how terrible it is

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Dare I say its the worst since Suicide squad and that's not something I'd say lightly

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Ezra miller was just the perfect balance of lame and cringe, its a sight to behold

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but somehow he's not even the worst performance in the film by far

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Pretty insane stuff

thin moth
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Yeah I'm just like this is the movie warner had 20x more confidence in than every single one of their other films being released in theaters??

cunning timber
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WB live action teams on DC has no sense, I think we’ve established THAT… if they did ok it was due to directorial.

upbeat forum
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It’s probably their most expensive one

charred veldt
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6/10, had cool ideas, somewhat okay script, effects were REALLY strange but there are some scenes that are cool

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I did like how they visualized going back through time, that was cool. I had never seen it done that way before. Is this how it was in the Flashpoint comics?

gentle fox
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I think flash failed because of superhero fatigue and the ezra miller thing
Dont think it wouldve been this much of a loss otherwise

cunning timber
upbeat forum
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X

charred veldt
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also it wasnt good

upbeat forum
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Pretty funny

rigid lance
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FUCK

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YOU

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EZRA

quiet lotus
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Well, I saw this today and honestly, I quite enjoyed it. It felt long, but the story was decent. And while some of the CGI was bad, it was never overly distracting, and the doubles work was pretty solid. shame that Brandon Routh's Supes never got a look in, but it was nice to see the older/alt versions get acknowledged. And, as predicted, they now have carte blanche to recast anyone and everyone.

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though I would like a pause on 'multiverse' stories for a while. We've had a lot over the past few years.

warped forge
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same

quiet lotus
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oh yeah, the dude is a dick

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My dad said he was annoying

upbeat forum
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Stop, he’s already dead! This is just embarrassing

rigid lance
zenith karma
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Asteroillion

rigid hawk
upbeat forum
cold nymph
pallid onyx
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He’s also the same guy who made that obnoxious video of him and another guy going to see Spiderverse repeating Miles name over and over because they refuse to call him Spider-Man

rigid lance
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HE EARNED IT DURING THE MOVIE

dapper ivy
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When Warner Bros would’ve saved more money by writing off Flash and Batgirl(and probably Aquaman and blue beetle too) instead of releasing them tomlol

left scroll
spark pike
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Flash Fans

spark pike
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He cant be homophobic

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He hates women

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He’s probably gay

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Its math

left scroll
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But he hates it when the smallest form of lgbtqia+ rep is put in a show or movie

spark pike
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Ever see ā€œPower of the Dogā€?

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Anyways this joke is going nowhere

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Fuck Nerdrotic

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He’s a blight on this world

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And a curse for modern cinema

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Grown ass men repeating miles morales movie over and over again

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I want him banned from cinemas everywhere

left scroll
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I want him banned from yt

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Showed time over time attacking and hatred towards specific people and groups

spark pike
upbeat forum
thin moth
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Can that person even enjoy any movie bruh

cunning timber
thin moth
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Yeah educated is a good word to describe the audience

cunning timber
# thin moth Yeah educated is a good word to describe the audience

Not the audience is much more INTELLIGENT, but their "ability to discern what they like an not like, having been educated on so many superhero films"... it's basically the excuse they use on every box office under performer (It's superhero fatigue!) bs... it's education

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Make a good movie, people will still go to it... the hard part of a genre film is that people who are into those genres, will have a lot of "education" to it (fandom/obsession, whatever you call it)... so if YOU don't know the genre, you'd be picked out as a fake super quickly...

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And if you're MAKING a film in the genre, you can't afford to have a "fake fan attitude"... and that's what I think happened with The Flash... the film changed director (and studio heads) so many times, that even if you're a fan of the character and the story, as a director it's hard to be a fan of your own work, coming into someone else's work that you have to build on/fix/redirect.... it's tough.

thin moth
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Development hell movies sure are something

cunning timber
rigid lance
upbeat forum
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Anyone that’s sane

rigid lance
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You know what

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I saw this

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with my dad

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Because he likes Micheal Kean and I wanted to spend some time with him

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We used a regal pass so I didn't give this piece of shit my fucking money.

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This film sucks ass dude

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The whole entire plot is center on the flash trying to go back in time

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and get a can of tometo soup

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instead of just trying to stop his killer

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makes no fucking sense

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what so ever

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THIS GUY

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WITH GOD LIKE ABILITY

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DOESN'T TRY TO STOP IS MOMS KILLER

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Absolutly brain dead writting

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BRAIN

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DEAD

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It's incredible

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We got a scene folks where he puts a child in a microwave to save it.

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I mean wtf

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and the kid knows his dad isn't there when it happens

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SO ALL THESE YEARS

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HE DOESN'T SAY SHIT ABOUT IT

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IT MAKES NO SENSE

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Doesn't talk to the judge or nothing.

rigid hawk
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If you watch the movie carefully then he says that if he just moves that can then it's a minor change and he thinks it won't affect the timeline much... Barry knows that if he directly confronts the killer of his mom then that's a huge change and can destroy the timeline which is why he chooses the first option.. Makes perfect sense to me

rigid hawk
rigid hawk
# rigid lance Doesn't talk to the judge or nothing.

Ah.. Barry tries till the end to acquit his father including getting that CCTV footage alright and btw, in a justice system a son saying his father wasn't there ain't enough evidence to acquit somebody. Barry could have absolutely said it but it doesn't matter.

kindred hedge
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does the movie not make clear that the events were a creation of a time traveling reverse flash?

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like barry cant get his dad out of prison the normal way because his testimony was as an 8 year old who basically describes that he blacked out

quiet lotus
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Some people really do choose to not pay attention. Everything was explained.

cunning timber
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Well, plot holes and weird six doesn’t actually affect the enjoyment of the film, and it’s not a shit film… but yeah… it has problems.

rigid lance
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Like it’s goofy asf

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If he’s already time traveling

rigid hawk
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No it is not

rigid lance
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He might as well take the guy out

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AND IF HE KNEW

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THAT HIS FAD DIDNT DONIT

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WHY DIDNT HE SAY ANYTHING

rigid hawk
rigid hawk
rigid lance
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In the time between when this happened

rigid hawk
rigid lance
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Rn

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Like I’ll pull links

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I watch a lot of true crime

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Secondly if the father went to the store we would have been seen by cctv

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It’s stupid

rigid hawk
rigid lance
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Forced asf

rigid lance
rigid hawk
rigid hawk
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You have zero arguments here

rigid lance
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Zero?

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No the script is dog shot

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That’s the problem

rigid hawk
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Agree to disagree

rigid lance
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If this film didn’t have the flash name in it

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You’d agree

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I bet

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Again

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A scene where flash

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Puts a baby no a microwave

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We have super girl coming in

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And for some reason all 4 of them can’t kill Zod

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Get the hell outta here with that

rigid lance
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Why did the flash take his sweet as time

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Going down the stairs

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Like I know it’s a little thibk but if I heard my mom screaming

rigid hawk
rigid lance
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I wouldn’t be tiptoeing

rigid lance
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  • 2 flashes
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Come on now

rigid hawk
rigid lance
rigid hawk
rigid lance
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IF YOU HEARD YOURE NORW SCREAMING

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would you just walk down the stairs?

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No

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It’s only done so Barry doesn’t see his moms killer

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It’s stupid asf

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Forced

rigid hawk
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Complain all you want, doesn't change the fact that I enjoyed this movie

rigid lance
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And never wanted to

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Universe getting rebooted

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  • flopped
rigid hawk
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Which is fine, there were several other factors but I'm glad DCEU is dead and I can't wait for Gunn's DCU.

rigid lance
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But I thought you liked the film?

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Oh and btw

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I like how Barry barley has a reaction to the universe as he knows it being dead

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Like it’s almsot played off as a joke

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Like the person he knew

rigid hawk
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Yes I liked this movie.. but it flopped and we know DC brand is toxic right now so, it needed a reboot

rigid lance
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He learned from

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Is dread

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Dead*

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Doesn’t bother him at all

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It should’ve been a more somber ending

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Like he lost it all, for nothing

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But no

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We get goofy ass George Coolney

rigid hawk
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Clooney was a nice surprise and it is to show that this Flash movie isn't getting a sequel

rigid lance
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I’m talking about the writting

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Just because I pull an actor out of my ass doesn’t make the film great

rigid hawk
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The film is good, never said it was great.. I had a fun time with it, that's all.. having watched it twice now.

rigid hawk
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Yes and the second time I enjoyed it even more

rigid lance
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Which one did you like better

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Spider verse or this?

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Not bullshiting

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Just curious

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Genuinely curious

rigid hawk
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Are you serious?? There's no competition... Across the spiderverse is miles better than the Flash.

rigid hawk
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Across the spiderverse is one of the greatest superhero movies ever made..

rigid lance
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Ok ok

final ivy
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im shocked by this

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kojima only longposts about movies when he likes them

thin moth
gentle fox
rigid hawk
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Don't know about this Kojima guy but again, the flash was super fun and a really good movie imo.

quiet lotus
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I don't know about 'really good', but it wasn't as bad as people said it was. Yes, it felt a little long to me, but not in an 'could easily have lost 20 minutes' kind of way. They just had a lot of story to tell.

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I especially liked that it basically only required you to have seen Man of Steel and not much else from the DCU

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because I hadn't apart from the Shazam's and Wonder Woman's

rigid hawk
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Yes

quiet lotus
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didn't see it, didn't need to

kindred hedge
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maybe my memory is vague but is it not made clear this was the reverse flash's doing?

quiet lotus
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it was not. The actual killer was never mentioned or speculated about

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but, I assume from seeing at least the first 3 seasons of the Flash TV series, that Reverse Flash is the culprit.

barren ice
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I feel like Framer is just auditioning for Cinemasins.

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I also couldn't imagine just hanging out in a channel for a movie that I really hate and just rag on everyone for liking the movie.

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I get my kicks from knitting

rigid lance
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You’re not my dad, you’re not a mod, and tbh I didn’t ask

quiet lotus
barren ice
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I brought the cheese to go with the whine.

upbeat forum
wheat shard
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they should spend 800m

tiny heart
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They should do the flash 2 with don cheadle as barry

upbeat forum
tiny heart
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Instead of just causing discource with the fans he just keeps quiet but u know that he didnt love it

rigid lance
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K

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šŸ˜Ž

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B)

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šŸ•¶ļø

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šŸ™‚

zenith karma
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They should spend more on this movie to further bankrupt themselves

tiny heart
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I have a feeling they're never gonna mention this movie again lol

scenic vale
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Makkari - enternals

upbeat forum
scenic vale
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They will blow all that money in trying to make ā€˜a perfect cgi speed run’, like the gif I posted above

gentle fox
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They should do a rerelease with all ezra scenes cut

scenic vale
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What’s a rare lease

tiny heart
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Bro was way off

charred veldt
tiny heart
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Flash in live action looks like a normal person running but with lightning cgi

charred veldt
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yeah they figured it out with makkari

tiny heart
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Dc had one job

charred veldt
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that sonic boom attack is crazy lmao

tiny heart
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Marvel did it for a side character

charred veldt
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the cg in Eternals was actually good

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the jumping to a whole other continent is insane

tiny heart
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Wow

cunning timber
rigid lance
rigid lance
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I don't see you saying this to Cybornut

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or naya

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or anybody else

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stop ridding me bruh

rigid lance
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Starting to get really annoying.

barren ice
rigid lance
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Like at this point it's harrasment.

barren ice
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But that's the sorta thing about working in blockbusters. It truly is trading away your autonomy to gamble on furthering your career.

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But with Marvel, you're shit on either way because dumb dumbs just associate you with Marvel for life instead of your actual body of work outside of it.

cunning timber
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I mean all her more acclaimed works were VERY actor driven, as in, created BY the actors...

barren ice
tiny heart
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True

barren ice
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After reading your article, she meant this: ā€œI shot exactly the way I wanted to shoot. On location. A lot of magic hour. Three-hundred-sixty degrees on the same camera as I did on Nomadland. Same rigs. It’s a bit surreal. I’m still waiting for the shoe to drop. It hasn’t. I think I got lucky in that Marvel wants to take risks and do something different.ā€

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Her "creative control" was the fact she primarily got to shoot on location.

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She still had to provide Marvel their product inside of their blueprint.

cunning timber
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As I've said, she's a doorstop... everything she said was production logistics and technical, none of them are truly creative...

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Again, that makes sense, on Nomadland and other stuff, the character development was heavily initiated by the actors.... she just worries about "shooting and editing" and other logistical sides... it's not like she would work with actors and give subtext and nuanced notes.

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Like, even the stuff she should've been good with, the eating around a table scene... she totally made it boring

uncut grotto
cunning timber
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for someone who is a fan and liked the film... if I was a hater for the flash, I probably wouldn't care at all

left scroll
barren ice
#

yeah it's almost like people just forget that acting is still a fucking job lmao

quiet lotus
#

god forbid people get paid for what they do

tiny heart
#

Its funny because there were reports of wb being afraid for the flash movie to be too much like the show

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So they just copied marvel which looks worse on them than being similar to their own thing

shell flower
jovial sun
upbeat forum
jovial sun
#

well, I did see both films, so yes sorta

rigid hawk
#

I think the X men Quicksilver one was better than the Flash

upbeat forum
thin moth
real ingot
scenic vale
#

I tell you how, how did this channel get four hearts just now lol

real ingot
#

I'll literally pay someone for a cut of this movie with Ezra Miller deepfaked into Nathan fielder

cunning timber
thin moth
#

God

cunning timber
# thin moth God

Nightmare, production-wise… it’s a wonder that it didn’t go the way of fant4stick, honestly.

upbeat forum
scenic vale
#

By the end of the week this movie is gonna be everyone’s favorite,

  • giving it hearts.
    We’re up to six now. lol
gentle fox
zinc cargo
#

When will this be on demand?

zenith karma
#

Never
Cuz nobody demanded the mpvie

zinc cargo
#

Harsh

rapid kernel
#

in the old days before digital many movies would make back their money in home video sales, in fact they could make a fortune and would even get sequels off home video

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new era though, doubtful bluray can do that now

upbeat forum
#

But yeah won’t even make 100m at home

rigid hawk
rapid kernel
#

Flash will be on digital and VOD really soon

rigid hawk
#

It may make some money there

upbeat forum
scenic vale
#

I don’t understand

cunning timber
upbeat forum
#

Not even just bad cgi

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Just visually that’s what it looks like

crystal palm
#

bro just the image of the thread is enough to tell me I dont need to see this

thin moth
#

Literally

upbeat forum
zinc cargo
#

I WANNA WATCH

scenic vale
#

Don’t look away if you don’t like any part of the film šŸŽžļø

gentle fox
#

They went all out with the costume design šŸ¤“

jovial sun
#

Good movie

scenic vale
#

[it was a random pick]

thin moth
#

Why do superhero costumes in movies decide to keep being more and more detailed

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like it can make them look more silly than if they weren't detailed and textured

plucky parrot
#

lol the flash was good

shell flower
#

The Batman costume of course could be better but it also would've been fine if not for the angle

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Flash suit is perfect

wheat shard
#

Loved the flash suit tbh

cunning timber
#

I hate that a lot of people are hating on this film (it's not a HORRIBLE film, it's not even BAD... it's weird and somewhat confusing, and made a lot of strange choices... but it's not BAD) probably without actually seeing it in theaters. The internet backlash alone is at least 100mil, if everyone yelling at it actually saw it... and another 100mil because Ezra Miller missing from marketing because of the shit he pulled. With a present box office of 262million globally, and those 200mils... the films "would've at least broken even" lol

wheat shard
#

I think it’s more so the fact that dc movies generally have not been good these past few years

cunning timber
#

True, 200mils right there, 100mil Ezra, 100mil hate

wheat shard
#

This is what is happening rn

#

dc is working out

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Preparing itself to finally be good

cunning timber
#

We'll see.. still 2 potentially crappy films lol

wheat shard
#

DC vs MCU dawn of justic e

#

But who is the villain

cunning timber
#

Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2, I mean. Started under the previous regime

wheat shard
#

i have a feeling blue beetle might be good but aquaman 2 won’t be

cunning timber
#

I am tentatively unhopeful, so I don't get any more disappointed... that said.. "it's all over!!!" so... I think I can stand a little more abuse

real ingot
#

I think this definitely holds a candle to fant4stics

shell flower
#

I'm really hoping that the digital/physical release does a couple things.

  1. Improve CGI
  2. Extended the movie (apparently there's a 4-Hour cut and also a Rated-R cut which may be the same thing)
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I love the movie as is but those additions would be amazing

real ingot
barren ice
#

Why do people think making the film rated R would automatically make the film better? lmao

#

"This isn't your Grammy's superhero movie - we say the f word šŸ˜Ž"

quiet lotus
rigid lance
#

Like at all

#

This film flopped there not gonna spend more money on it

cunning timber
scenic vale
#

The movie flopped because of all Ezra crap. Sure the story could of been better, and I mean way better. But that alone don’t loss millions of dollars. Look at all the crap we see on tv?

rigid lance
real ingot
upbeat forum
shell flower
shell flower
pallid onyx
zenith karma
#

The trainwheck is amazing to witness

scenic vale
#

I doubt it. The other day I asked a question, what movie was the worst movie, or something like that. Like 4 people replied with what they think was there worst movie lol

zinc cargo
#

WB Discovery announced today that its superhero flick The Flash will soon be available to purchase as an NFT, starting next week.

uncut grotto
#

Damn bro this movie is a fucking trainwreck

#

I'm starting to feel bad like it wasn't that bad šŸ’€

rigid hawk
#

Seriously.. I like Flash quite a bit but who would buy it as a NFT which is a gimmick anyway?

rigid lance
#

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

#

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

jovial sun
rigid hawk
#

Those execs were so naive.

kindred hedge
#

I find the fact he's fighting a giant spider so funny

#

Clearly somebody heard that Kevin Smith story

zenith karma
#

Good grief I thought people were joking the movie looks like a video game

pallid onyx
#

legit the only thing i found amusing about this thing

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prolly mainly cause I was surprised they were even able to convince Clooney to come back

quiet lotus
#

I thought it was a great cameo

#

Only sad that Brandon Routh didn't get a look-in.

pallid onyx
#

I guess even in a cameo bonanza, lets ressurect the dead mindset there's so form of thinking of whether its too much

#

They should've gotten fucking Routh to be the additional Superman cameo, not that gross Reeve one

#

They have universes of still living people around to do that

quiet lotus
#

I liked the nods to Reeves and the other universes, like Adam West, but there were some big omissions

pallid onyx
#

Tom Welling could've as well

quiet lotus
#

I have to wonder if it's becasue Welling was CW and Routh ended up being CW through the Arrowverse.

#

And we know how Gunn wanted that all killed off

rigid lance
#

FUCK YOU EZRA

#

LLLLL

rigid hawk
#

Even though I quite enjoyed the flash movie I'm glad it didn't do good box office wise or else there would be people saying Ezra should return as Flash again in DCU.

rigid lance
#

Like actually

#

Fuck this film, complete dog ass

unreal jewel
#

Ok it was a meh movie and it had so many flaws and I liked nearly every character in it except for Ezra Miller as the flash. The action scenes were bad at times lol and I tried to have fun watching the movie but I just couldn’t enjoy it even though I love the flash as a hero

kindred hedge
#

the clooney cameo made sense

#

the other cameos felt like a bizarre sizzle reel broke into the movie?

#

it felt more like those obnoxiously long studio logos

upbeat forum
#

For starters it’s not a multiverse movie

#

Their inclusion makes it clear they’re just there to be there

#

But also the sequence brings the climax of the film to a screeching halt

kindred hedge
upbeat forum
#

It’s not multiverse

#

And Keaton’s Batman would have some spaghetti to explain that with

kindred hedge
#

its that they serve no purpose, they dont do anything, they basically just pan the camera around and go "look its adam west!"

#

its like the SAG strike came to life

upbeat forum
#

Well exactly, they’re so out of place in the movie that they couldn’t even figure out what to do with them

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The climax is building up and then we stop for 2 minutes to have cameos

kindred hedge
#

i swear to god space jam 2 looked less like a commercial

#

thats a low fuckin bar

upbeat forum
#

I do agree

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It’s embarrassing

quiet lotus
#

Eh, it's a time travel alternate universe, which is basically the multiverse.

#

butterfly effect

upbeat forum
#

The multiverse was never mentioned once in the movie outside of that scene

shell flower
#

Is there an Imax version available yet?

upbeat forum
shell flower
#

Seems the default one is already imax

jovial sun
#

sad cause this movie deserves to be seen on IMAX

upbeat forum
shell flower
#

It is

#

is this not?

upbeat forum
#

No

cunning timber
upbeat forum
#

Well, going by what Andy said lmao

#

Interesting move to get the real actor in and then make it look entirely digital

cunning timber
#

Yup lol, the face is weird, but the costume was great

upbeat forum
#

The costume is nice but

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It’s inconsistent

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There’s a green light but it only shines on his face

#

His costume and the surrounding area is untouched lmao

cunning timber
#

Half of the cameo shots are ok, the other half are ā€œwe ran out of budget/timeā€tomlol

jovial sun
upbeat forum
#

Sucks to suck

zinc cargo
dull hill
#

only thing i'm intrested in is Keaton Batman. Forever.

wheat shard
#

And ever?

dull hill
#

He's allright, but i just like Keaton Batman better.

barren ice
#

Battinson kino

cerulean crypt
#

Still think this was the most fun entertaining movie of the year

#

Happy ezra is done After this tho

#

I think this could've been even better if they replaced ezra lol

zinc cargo
#

I liked him

quiet lotus
#

well, he's technically in the wrong universe now, so they can recast with whomever they want

zinc cargo
#

lol

pallid onyx
#

Reward Gustin for sticking with nine awful seasons of a mid show

rigid lance
#

He wasn't great

#

fuck him and fuck his acting

zinc cargo
scenic vale
scenic vale
rigid lance
#

I got a quesiton.

#

Why didn't Barry just ask Diana to use her laso of truth in a court testimoy with her father?

#

Like he's going to extreme of going back in time

#

at the very least he should've at least tried that first

#

This film is dumb

#

like actually

quiet lotus
#

it's very likely not admissible in court.

rigid lance
rigid lance
#

People know she has powers

quiet lotus
#

like lie detector tests aren't

rigid lance
#

And if not

rigid lance
#

It’s 10 times better

#

Just show people

#

Put it on the judges arm

quiet lotus
#

I don;t know! Go ask someone who reads the comics!

rigid lance
#

They didn’t think it out

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At all

#

Stupid

quiet lotus
#

but logically, if Diana did it for one person, she would have to do it for everyone, and she doesn't really have that kind of time. Also, Barry's identity as The Flash is supposed to be a secret, so why is a goddess turning up at some regular murder trial?

rigid lance
#

Have a scene

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Where Barry try’s to ask her

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And she says know

#

The film doesn’t even seem to icknowlehe the possibility

#

Because the writter wasn’t thinking

#

Couldn’t put two brain cells together

quiet lotus
#

or it happened and was edited out becasue the film is already incredibly long

rigid lance
#

Not gonna give ā€˜em benefit of a doubt

#

Sorry

#

This is the same guy who said ā€œMy CGI is shit on purpose@

#

Sorry no

#

Not buying that

quiet lotus
#

whatever dude. I don't care enough to argue

rigid lance
#

It’s a valid point

quiet lotus
#

sure, if you say so

rigid lance
#

So you’re telling me

#

What I just suggested

#

Is SOOOOO impossible

#

But time travel isn’t to far

quiet lotus
#

no, I'm telling you I don't care enough either way to continue this conversation

#

the film was average and I don't have much more to say on the matter

thin prairie
#

ima rewatch this rn

barren ice
#

kids these days jesus lmao

pallid onyx
rigid lance
#

Barry has just effectively killed

#

All these people he’s know

#

Known

#

And they play it ok as a joke

pallid onyx
#

i think that's a bit intense

rigid lance
#

If everyone you knew was dead

#

or better yet

#

gone from existance

#

how would you react?

pallid onyx
#

i mean not everyone he knew is gone, just rewritten in a sense

rigid lance
#

He's not the bruce he knew.

pallid onyx
#

his father is still his father, its just the likes of Batman

rigid lance
#

He's a diff person

#

thats not something the shrug off

pallid onyx
#

hence rewritten

rigid lance
#

story wise

pallid onyx
#

youre framing it like his Batman was brutally murdered or something, that's in my opinion silly

rigid lance
#

He's gone

#

it's like someone getting memory wiped

#

How is that not a big deal?

pallid onyx
#

because its framed as not being a big deal lol

rigid lance
#

it's tone death

pallid onyx
#

its not but ok

#

Affleck's Batman just exists elsewhere, and if Barry wants to can just undo it again its not hard lol

rigid lance
pallid onyx
#

I’m not passionate about this topic enough to engage further, please stop pinging me

pallid onyx
#

Yet you pinged me again lol

rigid lance
pallid onyx
#

Fuck off. Seriously.

barren ice
#

Doesn't seem very nice, kiddo.

barren ice
#

How she goin, bud

wheat shard
#

She good

barren ice
#

Based
Love to hear it.

wheat shard
#

Bottom line: I was excited for this movie and I believed the hype

#

The hype was too much

barren ice
#

Too much for ya?

rigid lance
#

Where was the hype?

#

Wait nvm

wheat shard
#

James Gunn

rigid lance
#

Yeah there was a lot of hype when this came out

wheat shard
#

I mean I liked it

#

I loved the heartfelt moments

rigid lance
wheat shard
#

Could of been better

barren ice
#

Just because you didn't like it and you continuously harass others for liking something, it doesn't invalidate others lmao

rigid lance
#

I WILL SAY

barren ice
#

Little punk, I tells ya

rigid lance
#

At least Micheal Kean had his moments

barren ice
#

Ye mate

rigid lance
#

I have him blocked so

#

I can’t see his chats

#

Anyway

barren ice
#

ct, you're based and you know it

wheat shard
#

I try

#

tbh

#

But I am sad

barren ice
#

Things'll get brighter, bud

rigid lance
wheat shard
barren ice
#

Ct, I know what you need

wheat shard
#

We just go through tough times in life but we will get through it soon

rigid lance
#

I’m sorry to hear

wheat shard
#

OH YEAH

#

I NEED THAT

barren ice
#

That's what you need šŸ˜Ž

wheat shard
rigid lance
#

Well that’s good

wheat shard
#

@barren ice random question are you actually an MD

barren ice
#

I have a PhD in Partyology šŸ˜Ž

wheat shard
#

Oh I love that dog

rigid lance
rigid lance
#

Do you have hopes

#

For the James Gunn

#

Dcu

wheat shard
#

Yes

#

A lot of hope

rigid lance
#

That’s good

#

You gonna miss

#

The old one?

wheat shard
#

The bar was set low in the dceu

wheat shard
#

If I could choose between having zack’s justice league sequels or ben’s Batman movie it would be the latter

rigid lance
#

We should’ve gotten it sooner imo

wanton vine
#

||Clooney Cameo at the end|| got a laugh out of me. I don’t really know what to rate it yet. Feel mixed cause the cgi was bad and a lot of the dialogue was cringe. I still enjoyed some parts to it though.

quiet lotus
#

Though the CGI was pretty darn cartoonish, I give the film props for having the doubles stuff down pretty perfectly.

#

there were only a few times when both Barry's were on screen and it didn't look quite right.

glossy breach
#

I'm an hour in and genuine question, if in the alternate 2013-verse Kevin Bacon played Maverick, what ever happened to Tom Cruise

dull hill
glossy breach
#

If there's any iconic 80s movie character that alternate Tom Cruise might've played, my money's on Jeff Spicoli from Fast Times

dull hill
rigid lance
#

Can you rap

#

If I gave you a mic rn

#

Could you rap?

barren ice
#

?

#

What an odd question.

gentle fox
#

Dc carefully making the flash as bad as it could be

robust gust
#

I didn't hate it, there is an almost decent movie in there somewhere

#

It almost has the opposite problems of no way home

#

No way home has a bad plot to justify good cameos, the flash has a better plot to justify terrible cgi nightmare fuel cameos

scenic vale
#

This movie now has seven heats

#

it probably would’ve been better if it was animated. Gunn was gonna change everything anyways 🤷

rigid hawk
#

Well we already have a great animated flashpoint movie which plot imo is better than the live action one.

#

Go watch it if you haven't

scenic vale
rigid hawk
scenic vale
#

Cool

dull hill
#

Flashpoint Batman. Enough said.

glossy breach
#

I liked this movie, I really just wish that Bruce and Kara hadn't died

dull hill
gentle fox
# rigid hawk

This was great
Cant even compare it with the live action version

rigid hawk
#

I agree that the animated version was better than the live action one

cunning timber
#

WB animated always did things right, I wonder why live action has to always be so extra.

modest portal
#

I watched The Flash for the plot:

cunning timber
#

Yes, the um, plot

modest portal
#

Whatever that was...

#

Multiverse thingy mabob

cunning timber
#

They need to keep Sasha Calle as Supergirl

#

And tbh, that suit is so much better than the skirt version

#

Mean and moody, woot!

rigid lance
#

Willing to bet on it

cunning timber
#

Yes, 99% not going to happen, which is a shame, she was great as moody Supergirl

glossy breach
#

Sasha was great and I'm gonna miss her as Supergirl

quiet lotus
#

I liked her 'origin'. She was fairly indifferent to humans (and rightly so), but she lost it knowing Kal-El was dead.

#

and her androgyny really worked for it. The suit was great.

upbeat forum
#

People only want her to stay because she’s hot

rigid hawk
#

I liked Sasha Calle as Supergirl but her story is done in the flash and the movie was one of the biggest flops of all time. There's zero chance WBD will hire as Supergirl again, maybe she will get another role.

compact canyon
#

what was the ending wtf lmao

#

just watched by the way

#

gonna review later gonna get my thoughts organized

#

this was inconsistent af, some parts really good some parts terrible

#

feels like two different movies that collide together one decent and one trash.

cunning timber
cunning timber
rigid hawk
#

Yes she is and again hopefully she will get another role in DCU.

cunning timber
#

Hopefully her performance on the flash will get her some recognition

cunning timber
rigid hawk
#

Hopefully

cunning timber
#

Yes

thin moth
deep stratus
#

this movie is not bad until it is

#

this is the worst cameo fan service scene in any cbm

#

they shouldve not had it in.........

#

it makes the movie worse

#

even if the cgi is top notch and the cameos are the cameos people wanted (cw flash) it still makes no sense to have a cameo scene there at all

#

also the trailers spoiled the whole movie lol

cunning timber
compact canyon
#

i was so excited for ||Nic Cage|| cameo as Superman and then i got CGI face ||Cage||

uncut grotto
#

this movie is the meme shit Morbius thought it was

#

I kinda wish Sony had made Morbius NFTs

glossy breach
#

That would be so funny

full narwhal
uncut grotto
#

what would be the currency conversion rates between morbucks and morbillion

#

or the conversion rates between flashillion and morbillion

glossy breach
full narwhal
full narwhal
#

Dear glob this movie is such a mess

#

When it's about Barry, it's insufferable, when it's not about Barry, why call it The Flash

#

The decision to cut Thawne is insane and in consequence plot detracts from main characters so much

#

Prime example of a movie where studio rewrote the script so many times it turned into spaghetti with engine oil and grounded woodchips

quiet lotus
#

It's such a strange thing to focus on - rather than go back in time and find out who murdered his Mum and why, and stop it from happening, it was just, I'll stop it happening. A serious lack of curiosity there.

pallid onyx
pallid onyx
#

Like imagine A film about The Flash being focused solely on The Flash

kindred hedge
#

omg what

#

My phone calls caused quite a commotion, and well-placed sources on both the TV and theatrical side soon got back to me to affirm that the alleged Sears sighting was just a case of mistaken identity — that said cameo was absolutely not footage of the Flash TV series alum, but a generic Golden Age Flash representation played by ā€œno actor.ā€

pallid onyx
#

So they got the film editor to play some random Flash

kindred hedge
#

what a weird choice

pallid onyx
#

But it wasn’t seriously considered to include like John Wesley Shipp?

#

At the very least?

#

It was more important to include Adam fucking West’s Batman but have zero rep for the previous iterations of the Flash

kindred hedge
#

i guess not, it also made no sense because that black and white world was meant to be the george reeves superman?

pallid onyx
#

ā€œHeartbreaking cutsā€

kindred hedge
#

but we need a fake flash tied to a thing that didnt exist?

full narwhal
#

those shots were sooo fucking long

pallid onyx
kindred hedge
#

i know this wasnt intentional but it definitely feels extra confusing its NOT the guy who briefly played jay garrick who looks exactly like that guy

pallid onyx
#

So many easy decisions here: have Garrick played by an actor associated with Flash, don’t trot the deceased George Reeves, Christopher Reeve and Adam West out for a cheap cameo, don’t refer to not being able to do the same for the deceased Marlon Brando, Burgess Meredith and Cesar Romero as ā€œheartbreakingā€, and then also just make a fucking Flash movie

kindred hedge
#

like there were leaks coming out of the production where clearly people totally lost in translation who that guy was, heard jay garrick, googled to find an actor who played him that looks like that, and just said "yeah its that guy"

glossy breach
pallid onyx
#

Apparently not. Dude doesn’t have living family or estate to even ask permission so they can just pull that shit

glossy breach
#

The guy killed himself, the best WBD could do was let him rest in peace

#

But I guess they didn't

cunning timber
#

Holy fuck that’s low

#

I’d assumed he had some next of kin or estate to authorize it…

glossy breach
#

Couldn't they just have Ben Affleck play George Reeves again

kindred hedge
#

see this is exactly what sag is trying to strike over, they dont want likenesses bought and sold and horse traded

scenic vale
kindred hedge
#

i assume thats a typo and you mean savitar, yeah no thats a show thing

cunning timber
kindred hedge
#

in the comics its just barry and thawne, savitar being a future version of barry also isnt a thing, hes not as big a character also

cunning timber
#

Hell, they already used a Generic Golden Age Flash, why not a Generic Golden Age Superman?

#

Alex Ross version is fitting

#

Or fucking hell, give me a sequence with WB animated universe

scenic vale
#

Man they cut boater gold from last season of flash. I assume, since they mentioned him?

cunning timber
#

Literally just DRAW it

scenic vale
#

I liked the cw flash šŸ“ø. Just wish they had more budget to not mess it up in the end

cunning timber
#

It’ll be cheaper, honestly… why risk controversies when you HAVE all the assets to make it amazing? I guess it being the same year as Across Spider-Verse REALLY doesn’t help…

full narwhal
#

and year after Strange 2

cunning timber
#

Strange 2 didn’t have that much cameos, and all living actors

full narwhal
#

about as many really

pallid onyx
#

they're still better as stated cause they're alive and breathing

full narwhal
#

that goes without saying

scenic vale
#

I haven’t seen cw since legends and flash was over, what other hero shows are there? Star girl I never cared for 🤷

full narwhal
#

that one's not part of Arrowverse

#

Superman and Luis is apparently decent

pallid onyx
#

I thought they folded Stargirl into it?

scenic vale
#

There’s like 4 or 5 seasons of that show

full narwhal
#

which one? cause i believe both have 3

scenic vale
#

Star girl.

#

Oh

full narwhal
#

Stargirl or Supergirl :>

scenic vale
#

No, they gave a really bad promo of super girl, before they premiered the show. I said ā€œnope, show is not for meā€ šŸ˜‚
I cared for her when she was included in the arrow verse.

#

Star girl

#

Did anyone saw like the last season of Titans, when beast boy was in the red and went to star girls universe. I thought they was going to do a crossover or something. Guess it was a cameo, (if you call that a cameo, since they interacted with each other tomlol.)
I also thought Titians and doom patrol was going to do couples crossover episode too, since cyborg was in doom patrol?

thin moth
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was kinda goofy tbh not a fan

upbeat forum
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Just cg

pallid onyx
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Its his face tho

upbeat forum
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Yes and then played with a bit to make it look like golden age flash

thin prairie
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very mid

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ima rewatch it rn to see if i feel the same way

thin prairie
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yea

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its bad

dull hill
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More like the Flush.

thin prairie
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nice joke

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haha

thin moth
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the fl-ass-h

pallid onyx
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Muschietti’s gonna want to regain his footing if he doesn’t wanna be perceived as a flash in the pan

pallid onyx
full narwhal
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not necessarily the best 1/3rd of this movie

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It’s really what I find the most wild about hiring directors who set themselves up as interesting new faces and they assign them a big studio film but give them like no actual agency to set the film in a way that makes sense this person was brought in to do this particular film

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Like there’s definitely directors out there that fit that role where they brought in just to serve as a director. It’s not to be a dig but this is something television directors do a lot, like Alan Taylor, who’s credits range between comedy (Sex and the City), mob drama (The Sopranos) and fantasy action (Game of Thrones). They can do that go between and get the job done and not really have like a set vibe in order to accommodate the different needs of the show

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It’s weird to see WB look at the The Flash film and then select the director of Mama and It, which had distinct looking horror vibes and being him in on Flash and it bearing no real resemblance to his earlier styles. You’d be hard pressed to really think this film is a ā€œdirected by Xā€ kind of film

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And the director name clearly isn’t a big driving force for marketing, they more often than not get shoved out of the spotlight for the actors and even sometimes the greasy studio heads

scenic vale
scenic vale
deep stratus
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its not that bad..

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i was quite entertained in the first hour and a half

scenic vale
full narwhal
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it's hard to blame writers when the movie was rewritten like 6 times by different authors, reshot 2 times, and is build on needs of producers and commitments to EU rather than main plot

scenic vale
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||~~I believe if I write a story I could do better, put my spin on it? ā€˜If flash wasn’t the superhero we no today but an antihero’ ~~||

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Also, Why eu

full narwhal
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expanded universe

pallid onyx
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I see

wanton basalt
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Interestingly enough, a lot of the directors of superhero films this year are horror directors

scenic vale
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I see horror at the easiest thing to do, because you just scaring people.
But writing it is a different story. ||I’m trying to write one, my problem is, trying to find out what is the scariest thing that makes people jump there seats?||

quiet lotus
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Comes mostly from editing, not writing

compact canyon
scenic vale
# compact canyon nah dude true horror is not jumspscare cheap shit, true horror is truly disturbi...

Someone once made me watch: combustion, with them (don’t remember if that’s the name or not/ mostly what happened though out the movie) All I know, till that day, I worry if that shit is going to happen to me.
I hate the final destination films because it reminds you that you could die anytime. This one was worse.
If I was into horror flicks, my choice would be Annabelle. Not those movies that makes you think of your life choices. 🫤

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That shit was really disturbing

compact canyon
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i don't like Annabelle, Insidious or Conjuring, my favorite horror is usually body-horror, psychological horror and cosmic horror... but that is just me and my personal taste in horror films.

wheat shard
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I feel like it’s hard to get it right these days

wheat shard
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Maybe James wan can come back

scenic vale
glossy breach
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I love The Conjuring franchise and I'm not even that into horror