#đŸŽ„The Flash

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spark pike
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Its the best of both worlds

uncut grotto
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They went on the concept of time travel here where as they need a multiverse movie

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I don’t see that happening anytime soon

spark pike
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Pattinson is for the fans who want it to be gritty

uncut grotto
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Unless it’s in Blue beetle or Aquaman 2

spark pike
uncut grotto
spark pike
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Two legends can co exist

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The new Batman is for the fans who want general superhero content

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Pattinson is for the experimental shit

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Two sides of one coin

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Co-existing

uncut grotto
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We aren’t talking about “two legend can co exist” đŸ€“ we are talking about how they would do that

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With a Batman movie on the way

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A full reboot

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And no multiverse movie right now

spark pike
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The Flash literally had all those cameos

uncut grotto
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This is not the multiverse lil bro

spark pike
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Cage isnt

uncut grotto
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That was time travel

spark pike
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So time travel equals all of these supermen in one spot huh?

uncut grotto
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Nobody bringing in Nic Cage to play superman for the foreseeable future 💀

spark pike
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Sounds like the multiverse to me

uncut grotto
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No

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Bro said multiverse like those people exist anymore

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This movie won’t even be remembered

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Or considered canon after Gunn puts his foot down

spark pike
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It sounds like a multiverse for me

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Several variants of superman

uncut grotto
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Argue with yourself

spark pike
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Dead actor or not

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It’s obviously a multiverse

upbeat forum
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They will

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Let’s see how long the dcu lasts

uncut grotto
upbeat forum
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They’re already looking for actors

uncut grotto
upbeat forum
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And Brave and The Bold

uncut grotto
upbeat forum
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Yes it’s canon

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And live action

uncut grotto
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Hold on it’s live action?

upbeat forum
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Yes

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Andy Muschietti is directing it

uncut grotto
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I thought it was based off the animated show

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Jensen Ackles then? tomlol

upbeat forum
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The show is based off of the comic run

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The movie based off the comic

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It’s set in the new dcu

uncut grotto
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So is 2025 a release date or just date for scouting?

upbeat forum
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They’ve not got a locked date yet

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But that’s when they’re looking to release it

uncut grotto
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Two Batmans, you think they’ll collide or stay separate?

upbeat forum
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Separate

uncut grotto
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This is gonna be weird if they don’t explain it

upbeat forum
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What is there to explain

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It’s just Batman

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And Robin

uncut grotto
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How the two Batmans Don’t intertwine

upbeat forum
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They’re different universes

uncut grotto
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So they’re really using this flash as the “multiverse” movie then?

upbeat forum
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No

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The Flash is unrelated

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Entire different universe

uncut grotto
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They’re not gonna do a multiverse movie are they

upbeat forum
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No

uncut grotto
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💀💀💀

upbeat forum
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There’s a new dc universe

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Starting fresh

uncut grotto
upbeat forum
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Begins with Blue Beetle

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Continues with the shows next year

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And from then on everything is set in a new universe

uncut grotto
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That was quick

upbeat forum
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Except from The Batman and Joker which are separate universes in their own right

uncut grotto
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They just discarded this movie 💀

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What a shitshow they’ve had

upbeat forum
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Yeah the universe is done

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After Aquaman 2

uncut grotto
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I wanted to become a DC fan

upbeat forum
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And this movie ultimately means nothing because there’s no future

uncut grotto
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They’re making it difficult

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@spark pike I can admit when I’m wrong

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I hold the L

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Yes

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He knows

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They should like shoot an emotional death scene for aquaman in aquaman 2

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MI7 > Oppenheimer & Barbie (and The Flash too probably)

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Its kinda lame seeing these iterations of characters end with no resolution

uncut grotto
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Hes lobo

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Ngl

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This movie makes me a little sad

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Honestly I think he'd be better as lobo

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I was so excited for this just a few months ago

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Momoa killed it as a villain in fast x

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And it was bad but

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Just so disappointing

upbeat forum
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Who’s copping

upbeat forum
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I can produce something much more entertaining and visually appealing in my toilet within 6 hours

uncut grotto
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But do it have a nic cage superman cameo

uncut grotto
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Probably cuz its dcu

upbeat forum
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They’re not dcu

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But this is a first step in making people not confused

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So they don’t associate Suicide Squad and Harley Quinn with dceu

uncut grotto
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Imo they should've rebooted it all

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Seems funny that peacemaker holding them back from doing it lool

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I like the show but he a z lister they could just continue it without it being in the dcu

manic garden
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I am shocked they didn't end on the flash rebooting the universe tbh

spark pike
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Because the worst person ever is stuck in the world where batman has nipples on his suit

manic garden
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Should of been James Gunn coming out of the car and he just laughs and goes 'not in this world' and shoots Ezra miller

barren ice
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Clooney batman based

upbeat forum
uncut grotto
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Did they laugh when they saw the box office?

scenic vale
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So guess it’s confirmed, the guy from supernatural (dean), is Batman?
Fun fact he was in couple of episode of ‘smallville’.
I doubt, the same guy who played soldier boy on ‘The Boys’ is a perfect fit for Batman?

uncut grotto
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Fr ppl just saying it bcuz of looks

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I could see jensen as GL

scenic vale
uncut grotto
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They're all just a dumb clump of movies that are only in a cinematic universe for synergy no well thought out plan

uncut grotto
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Yeah

scenic vale
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Yeah. I could see that

uncut grotto
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Nah i mean john stewart

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Jk

scenic vale
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Would he like to play the role though?
GL is not that big of a superhero?

uncut grotto
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Its not like hes an actor that has bigger opportunities come to him

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Dude was literally in the alec baldwin shooting movie

scenic vale
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It builds to the justice league which I would like to see one day


scenic vale
uncut grotto
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Idk i see more cw actors than not fade into oblivion after their show ends

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Jensen at least got the boys for now

scenic vale
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Yeah

uncut grotto
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I hope grant has a nice future

scenic vale
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Is either them casting someone from a good show like supernatural or casting someone from riverdale, another cw show lol

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Jk idk

uncut grotto
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That riverdale dude was almost a dc character

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Wonder twins

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Got cancelled by zaslav weeks before production

scenic vale
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I never liked riverdale, stopped in like after 3 episodes

uncut grotto
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Crazy how hamada was developing all this random shit instead of superman

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I wouldve watched it if it was actually fun like archie

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Wb should reboot it as a movie

scenic vale
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Gunn better have some ideas, how to make ‘The justice league’ a thing? Or at least the league with the wonder twins.

I think that cw show ‘justice society’ is going nowhere, because they canceled all the other show that might’ve connected them. Only show left is ‘Titans’ & ‘Doom patrol’

uncut grotto
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Titans and doom patrol have been cancelled too

scenic vale
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đŸ€Ź

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Really

uncut grotto
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The only actual one thats been renewed during the gunn era is

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Superman and lois

scenic vale
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Why that lame show

uncut grotto
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Which is ironic since superman is the only character that had a show thats also in the dcu

scenic vale
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Be right back

uncut grotto
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"Sasha calle is trapped on the submarine"

Me:

spark pike
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Because he’s also a great actor

uncut grotto
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This shii must be so baffling to ppl who didnt see the movie

pallid onyx
stuck briar
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What a flop. Haha.

cold nymph
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if its made 250 millions in box office its huge

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With a production budget of $200 million

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With a production budget of $200 million and an advertising budget of at least $65 million, The Flash must make around $265 million to $400 million at the global box office to break even.

upbeat forum
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Nice try

jovial sun
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SEEING THIS IN TWO DAYS

cunning timber
upbeat forum
cunning timber
# upbeat forum They spent 150m

Direct distro and advertising costs in Domestic would’ve reached 100m by itself, and 50m international; the local distributors would’ve easily combined 50m but we don’t usually count that
 normal international masters and related direct advertising would’ve been in the 10-15m range. We SHOULD be close to 200m, if not over, globally
 the MATH is complicated, but the GENERAL idea is 400m to break even
 they’ve done 140m globally so far
 it’ll be a minor miracle for them to hit any more than 250-260m by end of the month, and 350m total run.

upbeat forum
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Their break even point at the most generous and lenient is like 500/550m

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Marketing + Production Costs comes to 370m

cunning timber
# upbeat forum Their break even point at the most generous and lenient is like 500/550m

Absolutely, they’re NOT going to hit that with the most conservative production and marketing cost estimate AND the most generous box office estimates. And that’s not even accounting for minimum screening contractual obligations running out in theatres. I mean, if I was to hedge my bets as a theater chain, im going to schedule more Across spiderverse and guardians 3, even Elemental, than The Flash. They were averaging around 5k per theater domestically on opening weekend, the theatres are NOT happy.

rigid lance
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No waaayyyyyy

cunning timber
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Cost of replacing Miller with all the effect shots (like, LITERALLY 90% of the time he’s on screen, because of the TWO Barry Allens, are already VFX shots that are meticulously planned). It would’ve easily be over 50mil and 6 months just to redo those shots, and that’s with ridiculously sloppy, Fant4stic level work


cunning timber
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He did, but he also did a good job ACTING-WISE, he's just a horrible horrible marketing nightmare.

rigid lance
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And honestly man, it was a dumb idea not to include the CW flash anyway

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Like we got all these cameos

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Including 1980s super girl

cunning timber
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Miller antics EASILY cost them 100m in international box office because people HATE him.

cunning timber
cunning timber
# rigid lance I can see why

And that's with huge amounts of suppressing by the spin doctors... the amount of loss of marketing penetration itself due to LACK of (positive) Miller support alone hurts so much... I mean HOW do you promote the film without the actor of the titular character?

rigid lance
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Lol

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Well

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They did try

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To like

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Push the Micheal kean batman to the front

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And try to help people forget.

cunning timber
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Well, the only Miller interview regarding to The Flash was at the premiere, and even THAT centered around his behavior... I mean STFU you dumbass!

cunning timber
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What WAS missing though, an Asian-Mom style FLIPPER smack in the face.

rigid lance
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Asian mom + black mom wuppin

cunning timber
cunning timber
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But ANYWAYS... key learning, Miller antics easily 100m+ box office lost... but even with THAT, 500m is an near impossibility.

rigid lance
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WAIT

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WAIT YOU KNOW WHAT THIS REMINDS ME OF?

cunning timber
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hmm?

rigid lance
cunning timber
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ouch

rigid lance
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IT HAS THIS VIBE

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Ezra is the a train of the superhero genre

cunning timber
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Train at least has a "I want to keep being famous" thing... Miller seems to want to keep throwing fuel onto his own career dumpster fire.

rigid lance
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DUDE

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IMAGINE IF THE BOYS

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MADE A PARODY OF THIS

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IN THE NEXT SEASON

upbeat forum
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Elemental is now earning more daily than The Flash

cunning timber
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I'm reading the box office news in the morning for fun... and you know WHICH film STILL made 11.1mil LAST weekend?

upbeat forum
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Spiderverse

cunning timber
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The Little Mermaid

upbeat forum
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Sheesh

upbeat forum
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Is that worldwide

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Because it just opened in China last week

rigid lance
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What about spider verse

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Is it falling behind?

upbeat forum
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And it actually had an increase as opposed to decrease

cunning timber
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Domestic

rigid lance
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Oh

cunning timber
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Spiderverse not in the same bracket as these films lol

rigid lance
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wait it’s not?

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Is it above or below?

cunning timber
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It's like.. 14 brackets HIGHER lol

rigid lance
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For sec there I was confused

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But yeah def 14 brackets above

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Cyber, I got a question for you

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Do you think DC can up there box office pulling power under James Gunn?

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Or do you think the ceiling is too thick

cunning timber
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Spiderverse on THIRD weekend, and a HARD competition weekend... still made 27mil... that's more than half of The Flash and almost as much as Elemental... the two films PREMIERING that weekend lol

rigid lance
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DAMN

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still smoked em

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On half hp

cunning timber
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Actual, QUARTER hp

rigid lance
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Damn

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Do you think it’ll hit a bill?

cunning timber
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It's on 51% drop both last 2 weekends, so half of half

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What? Spiderverse ONLY costed 100mil....

rigid lance
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OH

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THEH NAKJNG BANK

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EVEN WITH ADS

cunning timber
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It's going to break 500m worldwide today or tomorrow at noon Pacific time, when the numbers are finalized for the day

cunning timber
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This week will be Elemental VS Spiderverse, so I'm predicting a 30mil each sort of situation... and maybe 15mil The Flash... but who knows, I've been wrong

cunning timber
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Elemental Weekend 2 vs Spiderverse WEEKEND 4, it has a chance

rigid lance
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Nah, hype is still real

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All I see is miles everywhere

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This will prob be the last week tho

cunning timber
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That's marketing tho, to do some last minute squeeze

rigid lance
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Now cyber

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How do you think

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Blue beetle

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Will don

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Do*

cunning timber
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Donno, didn't look into it

rigid lance
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Oh ok

cunning timber
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Can't judge without having seen the film, honestly

rigid lance
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Just on market pull alone

cunning timber
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... Mario

rigid lance
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Is it gonna get a world wide release?

cunning timber
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It's had that

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Domestic numbers are just much more solid

rigid lance
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Oh

cunning timber
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International numbers depends a LOT on different region contracts, so the numbers are not reliable predictor

rigid lance
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Oh ok

cunning timber
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Mario averages 738 dollars per theater domestically, which is CRAZY, since it's like on its 12 or 13th weekend last weekend lol

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At this time, the theaters would be making close to 90% profit on ticket, as opposed to ~10% on openings week... so they are effectively making as much money on the film as a $7000 average, you add concessions sales on top of that, you can see WHY the theaters are still playing Mario right?

cunning timber
cunning timber
# upbeat forum Because it just opened in China last week

For The Flash and Elemental, China had a simultaneous release as North America... the numbers are shit in Chinese theaters post-pandemic anyways... people simply don't go to theaters as much anymore... there's no sleeper/surprise hit potential, at least, not "scale-tipping" potential anyways... won't for a while until the market recovers. How long THAT's going to take for China, is anyone's guess.

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I do predict around a 35:35:20:10 (Spiderverse/Elemental/Flash/Other) split this weekend... this year's June Box Office is like... betting on horses lol

rigid lance
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Lol

cunning timber
upbeat forum
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It caught up now

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At the start of this week Flash was earning around 400k more than Elemental a day

cunning timber
upbeat forum
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So very close

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But now it’s falling behind

cunning timber
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I still see it more as a Spiderverse weekend 4 vs Elemental weekend 2 sort of thing... Astroid City isn't going to make a dent on that fight, different weight class... The Flash is a bit of a uncertain element... I don't see a marketing push tho, so it may be dead... I am basing it on personal experience ONLY, so it may be wrong, but we prioritized The Flash last week due to spoiler potential, and we are going to Elemental this Sunday... I am guessing a lot of family with children who regularly goes to theaters are going to do the same.

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Dial of Destiny next weekend

cunning timber
wheat shard
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Warner bros is traumatized

cunning timber
upbeat forum
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But that’s not impressive

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60% drop

cunning timber
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I'm frankly surprised they didn't create some kind of car crash and put Miller in the hospital just for the pity box office.

wheat shard
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This movie should have been the end of the DCEU

upbeat forum
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It is, kinda

cunning timber
upbeat forum
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Yeah that’s what all the projections have it at too

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Which isn’t good at all

wheat shard
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I would have marketed it as such tbh. “Witness the end” and go off with a bang

rigid lance
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This thing is flopping bruh

upbeat forum
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Well they can’t market it as that

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Because they have another movie coming out this year in the dceu

cunning timber
wheat shard
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I don’t know who said it but someone said reshoots are happening rn or were

upbeat forum
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Aquaman 2 was always after

wheat shard
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Ohhh

upbeat forum
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Just obviously the dates for everything got pushed back

wheat shard
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oh yeah

upbeat forum
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Aquaman 2 has had reshoots every 3 months to fit the new Flash ending

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They kept reshooting it with each Batman

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Before they just scrapped that scene

wheat shard
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Ngl, an aquaman 2 win would be swell

upbeat forum
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It’s the most plausible

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But we will see

cunning timber
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Aquaman 2 was at one point supposed to be before, but that was changed in the middle of the pandemic... I am pretty sure that it was Aquaman 2 -> The Flash -> Blue Beetle.... mid 2020 it changed to The Flash -> Aquaman 2 -> Blue Beetle

upbeat forum
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I think you’re confusing Aquaman with Batgirl there

cunning timber
upbeat forum
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Which kept moving like that

upbeat forum
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The original original very first Aquaman 2 release date was December 2022

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Flash had like June 2022

wheat shard
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Ngl, I saw some behind the scenes photos of batgirl. Really intriguing

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I saw Keaton in a tuxedo

upbeat forum
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Just sort of worked in their favour

wheat shard
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But now, if Keaton was in it we can just assume he was the main Batman or that was the plan at the time

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I’m interested

cunning timber
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F'n batgirl was like... "Let's use accounting to fudge the numbers and write the film off as a complete loss... let's not even put the money into distribution and marketting, m'kay???"

wheat shard
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At one point

upbeat forum
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Nah Batgirl had a similar issue to Aquaman

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It had to come after Flash to make sense because of Batman and the world changes

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Flash kept getting delayed

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But Batgirl was becoming very costly to keep delaying and reshooting to fit with Flash

cunning timber
upbeat forum
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So Zaslav was just like we’re not spending this much money on a HBO Max movie and scrapped it

cunning timber
wheat shard
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Superman legacy

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What will the legacy be?

upbeat forum
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The Legacy of his family

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Accepting that he can be human and kryptonian

cunning timber
cunning timber
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The Kents and the Els

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Batman is going to deal with the Waynes, specifically Damian is joining the fray, as the only BIOLOGICAL offspring of Bruce

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Lanterns is a buddy cop "precinct Earth" sort of thing

upbeat forum
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I don’t want it to fail

cunning timber
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Wonder Woman will be centered on Themyscira, donno time period

upbeat forum
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But I can’t help but think

cunning timber
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I can't remember the rest

upbeat forum
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Wouldn’t it be funny if it just never got off the ground

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If they never made any money

wheat shard
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Interesting

wheat shard
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Scrap it all and do elseworlds

cunning timber
upbeat forum
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Just proves their incompetence

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Because DC has such richer characters and a more interesting world

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Yet they don’t know what to do with it all

cunning timber
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PROBLEM SOLVED

wheat shard
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Why is it that the last two standalone projects have been successful

upbeat forum
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Animation as a medium is very freeing which allows them to do some of the crazy stuff they do in those movies lmao

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DC definitely tried that originally

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Literally every single movie having 3 of their biggest arcs

cunning timber
wheat shard
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I know Warner bros wants to have that connected universe, but I’d be lying and say I wouldn’t be okay with doing more stand-alone stuff

upbeat forum
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It’s hard to say for sure because the argument absolutely could be made that people don’t like dceu stuff

cunning timber
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Joker 2 I already have little faith in, Gaga's not THAT good of an actor.

upbeat forum
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But they find that most people don’t even know what’s connected and what isnt

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The Batman and Joker just stood out as actually good and unique projects compared to what we’re getting

wheat shard
upbeat forum
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Which is why people propose they did so well

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As opposed to not just being outside of the dceu

wheat shard
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To just solidify that people like that stuff when it’s done good

cunning timber
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I donno, I'm still in the middle of a bit of a Marvel fatigue... due to the stagnation... the ONLY really AMAZEBALL film after Endgame was GoTG3

wheat shard
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Remember when the Nolan trilogy coming out

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I don’t remember batman begins but I remember hype around TDK and TDKR

cunning timber
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MoM was fun, but too much "standard MCU fare" for Raimi to shine

upbeat forum
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Because that’s true for both of them lmao

wheat shard
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My hope is that people will start to rally around a dc project that will garner excitement like the Nolan trilogy did

upbeat forum
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But they’re also actually good and visibly different

cunning timber
wheat shard
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It did well, but I’m just wondering if you feel any excitement among the audience

upbeat forum
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And I find this is because it’s good, not because it’s detached

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Genuinely some of the people I know think it’s actually part of the dceu

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But they just watched that because it’s great, as opposed to like Birds of Prey

wheat shard
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I didn’t see birds of prey

cunning timber
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It's hard to be excited with ANYTHING superhero of late... they BOTH need to prove to me that they can kick my ass... Reeves is an exception, if he does a killer The Batman 2, I will be excited by The Batman 3

wheat shard
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But tbh I like Margot as Harley

cunning timber
cunning timber
wheat shard
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Listen, I think they were smart in casting lady Gaga. I’m not sure how good she’ll be (she’s proven she can act though), but I think a lot of people will go to see joker 2 because she’s in it

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It’s very interesting that they said this will have musical elements or whatever

cunning timber
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Gaga vs Phoenix? I don’t see her matching up

wheat shard
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I’ve never heard of that take regarding a star is born

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Honestly I liked it

cunning timber
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A star is born draws on her personal experience a fair bit, like Streisand on the last remake, that’s why she was good in it. On House of Gucci she tried too hard to act, since she tried to draw on research rather than her own experiences. I honestly have a 50/50 expectation on her in Joker 2.

upbeat forum
cunning timber
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IF she was able to learn from Gucci and go deeper on personal experiences, and she’s as smart as it comes, then she’ll be good in Joker 2


upbeat forum
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And your reason to not see it wasn’t because it’s in the dceu is it

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Just that it looks bad/not your cup of tea

wheat shard
upbeat forum
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Exactly see

cunning timber
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I did see it, and outside of Margo Robbie, the film was inconsistent and random
 not in a good way

upbeat forum
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I don’t think the whole dceu excuse is as big as some claim

wheat shard
upbeat forum
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I bet she was recommended by Bradley Cooper

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Or he convinced her to do it

wheat shard
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Hold on

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Isn’t he a producer in joker 2?

upbeat forum
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Yeah

wheat shard
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Or was it just joker

upbeat forum
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And 1

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He’s a producer on both

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That’s why I just said that lmao

upbeat forum
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Otherwise that would be a very random guy to bring up right lmao

wheat shard
upbeat forum
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Bradley Cooper Batman

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I’m not saying I hate it

wheat shard
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Ya I’d support it

upbeat forum
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Especially since they want an older Bat

uncut grotto
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Wait

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Wtf

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Is this gonna be the last DCEU movie

upbeat forum
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No

uncut grotto
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Oh wait nvm

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I was about to say

craggy pier
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Can David Zaslav be Batman?

wheat shard
upbeat forum
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Gotta make that money you lost from Flash somehow

barren ice
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Nah. David Zaslav is just pissed off his reality television show empire got absorbed into a division he fucking hates. The dude has zero passion or love for film, so his acts to dismantle film is part of his routine to get Discovery back in his arms again.

upbeat forum
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WB is in $50 billion debt they’re desperate to get some money now

barren ice
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Corporate debt is the most laziest thing ever. Netflix has been accumulating debt like it's Infinity Stones.

upbeat forum
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Yeah but they’re in big trouble with it now

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I think because of the merger they got eyes on them

barren ice
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And? Warner Bros Discovery has $134B in assets and their operating income can pretty much pay them off easily.

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Zaslav has no desire to remain in his position.

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He has a desire to strip the company for parts, sell off the film division, and operate his television empire the same way he did with Discovery.

upbeat forum
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They had $47.5 billion in debt last year and have gained 2 billion more since

barren ice
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Again, corporate debt is absolutely meaningless. If you're a lender and your primary owes you $47.5B, then it's not the corporation's fault - it's the banks at that point lmao

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Companies know they can accumulate a fuckton of debt.

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It's part of the capitalist system to accumulate debt in order to build more content.

upbeat forum
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Yeah but now it’s massively impacting their stock

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He’s under heavy pressure from stock holders to lower their debt

barren ice
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He's under heavy pressure because Flash is underperforming and shareholders are worried about Zaslav's direction - not debt.

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Scorsese, PTA, and Spielberg had to set up an emergency meeting because Zaslav is considering closing TCM and selling its library

upbeat forum
barren ice
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I am telling you, as an economics academic, that corporate debt is the least of a company's situation after a merger - the shareholders agreed to absorbing the companies knowing the debtload.

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I can read, Mando.

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I read WSJ, the Atlantic, etc etc

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The corporations agreed to merge their operations and absorb the debt.

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When you launch a merger, an internal investigation is launched between the two companies to inspect the finances. The shareholders knew of the debt and they knew it would continue to accumulate due to the long-term nature of debt and acquisitions.

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Them saying 'we didn't know it was that bad!' is posturing.

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It's not like they walked into their brand new office, saw the report on their desk that the debt was bad, and went 'me know no!'

upbeat forum
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Yeah they have a deadline

barren ice
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Like most debt payment plans

upbeat forum
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They have to pay off a couple billion by the end of 2024

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Which is why they’re selling all this

barren ice
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That's called corporate raiding

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Zaslav is stripping the film division for parts.

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He probably has the greatest compensation package known to man. Once he's done stripping the company for parts, he's just gonna parachute out and let the company sink.

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$500M isn't gonna do shit against their main bulk of debt.

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Two weeks ago they paid down a chunk of their debt, which overshadowed the ousting of CNN's CEO. They have leverage at this moment with the shareholders.

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This is long-term

barren ice
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Shareholders knew of the debt load when they agreed to merge the corporations. To say a CEO doesn't have an ulterior motive when he joins a company that wasn't a vested interest prior to joining is short-sighted. Zaslav couldn't give a flat-fuck about movies.

barren ice
upbeat forum
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Nice okay so down by 2 billion

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Which is interesting because in the report today about them selling their music movie stuff

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It claims they still have 49.5b debt

barren ice
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Yeah - because Zaslav wants to get rid of that shit and focus on streaming new stuff. Their older library is harder to exploit and squeeze for cash.

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Zaslav wants to squeeze every little thing for cash.

upbeat forum
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Well of course yeah they’re trying to sell the stuff they care for the least

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Funny because people are saying they’ve massively overvalued that library and that 500m is asking too much

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Cheeky Zaslav

barren ice
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Zaslav doesn't have a personal interest in reducing the debt - he does have a personal interest in getting back to his roots as a reality tv garbage monster.

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The sooner he can sell off the vintage stuff, the quicker he can get back to reducing the debt with trash television.

upbeat forum
#

More 90 day fiancé

barren ice
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Exactly lmaooo

agile cosmos
wheat shard
#

Damn

agile cosmos
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David Zaslav is going to be my Uber driver soon

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Can’t wait to berate him

wheat shard
#

Max*

agile cosmos
#

I mean shit they tried getting Netflix to buy all of the DC cartoons

wheat shard
#

Oh yeah I recently saw justice league on Netflix

cunning timber
barren ice
cunning timber
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Yup

cunning timber
barren ice
#

I did read a quote however and it was like

If you owe the bank $1,000, that's entirely on you. If you owe the bank $10,000,000, then that's on the bank.

cunning timber
barren ice
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If the bank thinks they're gonna get anything beyond the principal back, they're on some good shit.

cunning timber
forest sky
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5/5

jovial sun
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SEEING THIS TOMORROW

wheat shard
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Enjoy 😊

manic garden
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I think James Gunn said Jon Stewart was going to be his green lantern

scenic vale
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This guy ? âŹ†ïž

hardy solstice
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saw this movie it was ok

thin moth
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Let's go baybeee

forest sky
charred veldt
uncut grotto
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Its funny that the same fans who were so certain the ezra miller stuff would not affect the film and it would be a huge hit are now using that as the reason as to why its not the hit they thought it would be

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I think its a mix of the ezra stuff, word of mouth not being strong enough and the franchise being bad in general especially the JL side of things.

rigid lance
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Fuck you Ezra

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L

light parcel
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this movie was great, i hope it never gets a sequel

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ezra gave an outstanding performance, i hope they never play barry allen again

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instead

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maybe i can be the dcu flash đŸ€·â€â™‚ïž

rigid lance
charred veldt
#

grant Gustin

rigid lance
#

at least you don't rob houses

charred veldt
#

grant gustin

rigid lance
#

kidnape people

light parcel
charred veldt
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They need to get Grant in there

rigid lance
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fight random people at bars

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YEAAAHHH

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LETS GO GRANT

light parcel
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i cant fucking believe he didnt even cameo

rigid lance
#

You mean CW Flash

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idk Naya maybe you should be writting

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because some brainlit thought Supergirl from the 1980s was a more worthy cameo then the CW Flash.

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Jesus Christ

charred veldt
#

i would unironically write a better flash movie than Andy muschetti

rigid lance
#

She did

charred veldt
#

She wrote bumblebee and birds of prey

rigid lance
charred veldt
#

I won't give her too much shit cause I liked those movies

rigid lance
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I didn't

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So I will

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SHE WROTE THE BATGIRL FILM

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AND SHES WRITTING FAST AND FURIOS 11

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HOW

light parcel
barren ice
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Because writers are paid by producers to write the script. Blaming the writer is silly lmao

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Blame the producers for giving notes to the writer and demanding the dumb ideas be written.

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Plus Bumblebee fucking ruled. Y'all are filtered 😎

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Bird of Prey also kino

uncut grotto
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The writing in the flash wasnt that big of an issue

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More so the plot

barren ice
#

Uh huh.

uncut grotto
#

I liked the writing of dceu barry allen in this film way better than the previous two JL films

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Actually felt like barry

zenith karma
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Sometimes writers are there to fill in the gap

uncut grotto
#

Hodson not doing brave and the bold is a huge loss for the movie

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Mushetti is hit or miss

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Even with this movie

scarlet surge
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I didn’t hate it

upbeat forum
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My god

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DOA

jovial sun
#

SEEING THIS IN AN HOUR

upbeat forum
#

Some perspective

jovial sun
#

I enjoyed this

jovial sun
#

Dang that looks terrible as an embed lol. But you get the picture

uncut grotto
#

Its been like a month since spiderverse

upbeat forum
#

Spiderverse and Elemental are both doing better than this daily rn domestically

uncut grotto
#

Damnn even elemental

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Clod got that rizz 💯

upbeat forum
#

A big drop is typically excused because they open so big

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But if you open really really low and still have a huge drop

uncut grotto
#

Bad to worse

upbeat forum
#

The biggest drop in superhero domestic history

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It’s over

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The movie is now looking to end its run at around 260m

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Not even recouping the full budget

uncut grotto
#

Damn only like 100m more than shazam 2

upbeat forum
jovial sun
#

Its literally that good

uncut grotto
#

Bruh a rom com about to beat the movie event of the year

jovial sun
#

Hopefully it doesn’t

upbeat forum
upbeat forum
craggy pier
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Im in the minority probably but i really liked man of steel. Flaws and all. But man this film. What a waste of budget, characters and everything

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This could have been so so much better had they stuck with a smaller scale story

upbeat forum
uncut grotto
spark pike
uncut grotto
spark pike
#

Based

cunning timber
pallid onyx
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He had no pulse when brought in. Doctors did everything in their capabilities however unfortunately they had to declare Flash dead at 4:22 PM this afternoon

cunning timber
#

Really 4:20pm, but the doc was outside smoking

upbeat forum
#

Your honour, Flash was DOA

spark pike
#

This is incorrect information

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I have sources saying The Flash hasn’t been seen since last weekend.

uncut grotto
#

The flash imploded only hours into its trip to the box office

cunning timber
# upbeat forum Your honour, Flash was DOA

It was only called this afternoon, exact TOD and DOD could’ve possibly be anywhere from days to months ago, maybe even year, due to inconsistencies brought forth by time travelling.

jovial sun
#

This movie was fun

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Just very messy in areas

cunning timber
#

I like the movie myself, and don’t mind the mess
 but spending THAT kind of money on a movie like this, is almost a guaranteed failure, monetary-wise.

upbeat forum
jovial sun
#

It was a movie that never should have been released that’s for sure

upbeat forum
#

Batgirl’s cancellation is funnier in retrospect

jovial sun
#

I had a mate went with me that had never seen a dc film before so the guessing games was fun

upbeat forum
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Because it would’ve been more profitable than this

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All my friends disliked it and they range from general dc fan to no interest

jovial sun
#

Mine enjoyed the action and the actual storyline was intriguing

upbeat forum
#

Lots IMAX and Dolby etc are taking this off their screens

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Bringing Spiderverse back

jovial sun
#

Unfortunate how this and across the spider-verse shared the same theme. So I kept thinking everything that’s happening is a cannon event lol.

upbeat forum
#

They had some stupid name for similar things here

jovial sun
#

Hence my review

upbeat forum
#

Crossover point or something

jovial sun
#

Yep

upbeat forum
#

Stupid ass name

jovial sun
#

Inevitable intersection

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Which sounds so fucking messy

cunning timber
upbeat forum
#

They say make the names you give exposition easy for the audience to understand and remember

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I say fuck that

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Inevitable intersections

jovial sun
#

Okay but seeing Cage’s Superman made me gasp

cunning timber
#

I actually thought the whole film is quite good, but not for most people


uncut grotto
cunning timber
#

Needs a lot of “suspension of disbelief” lol

uncut grotto
#

And a lot of drugs

spark pike
#

Hear me out

#

Cage Superman should’ve been a major part

jovial sun
#

Nah I also thought the film was good. Real close to a 3.5, I just thought the whole first 20min (really in your face) and Barry dying part (very rushed) was like hmm. The rest was really fun

upbeat forum
cunning timber
# uncut grotto And a lot of drugs

Naw, drugs only serves to get to inhuman levels of suspension of disbelief, if one can achieve that naturally, one does not need external chemical help.

upbeat forum
#

Scraping that last bit of money they can get

spark pike
#

How fricking metal would it be if Cage Superman and Sasha Supergirl kicked Zod’s ass!?

upbeat forum
#

No

spark pike
#

I need to stop cussing a lot

upbeat forum
#

Yeah steady with it okay enough of the overload

jovial sun
#

Nah. I’m fine with just that Easter egg/cameo. It made me happy

cunning timber
#

Fricking is cussing? Boy


spark pike
#

I edited it

upbeat forum
#

Phew thanks

cunning timber
uncut grotto
#

Like imagine other multiverse heroes helped with the fight

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And werent cg abominations

upbeat forum
#

Do you actually think of that and think like

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This would be a good movie

spark pike
#

Hell yeah

cunning timber
spark pike
#

Keaton Batman

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Cage Superman

upbeat forum
#

Sounds like not a Flash movie to me

uncut grotto
#

But that would fix a lot of the final act issues

spark pike
#

You can still make Flash the hero and use the other characters to form his arc

upbeat forum
#

Would it

spark pike
#

Spider-Verse did that

upbeat forum
#

The actual content of the third act wasn’t terrible

uncut grotto
#

This is a flashpoint movie

upbeat forum
#

Yeah

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Time travel movie, not multiverse

spark pike
#

Miles was boosted by the other cooler looking Spider-Man, why can’t Flash be boosted by other heroes?

uncut grotto
#

So imo more heroes shouldve appeared and had big roles

jovial sun
#

Okay okay. But hearing Batman’s og theme was hot. Each time I heard was a fun time. Good nostalgia

upbeat forum
#

Well that doesn’t happen in Flashpoint

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All random heroes don’t just start showing up

spark pike
#

Screw 1:1 adaptations, lets get original

cunning timber
#

I like the balance of flash v Batman v Superman ratio, it’s STILL a Flash film

upbeat forum
#

It is now

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But with this proposed idea of more heroes from the multiverse

cunning timber
#

If the others get involved? Then it won’t be

upbeat forum
#

Just sounds like a horrible idea too

uncut grotto
cunning timber
#

Not that I want to see Miller flash again, despite him doing a good job acting

spark pike
#

Screw Miller Flash

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Lets get another guy

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Not Grant

uncut grotto
#

Cast harry styles as the flash

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A real actor

spark pike
#

Grant Gusty Garden Galaxy cannot act at all

upbeat forum
#

Are you 13 by any chance

spark pike
#

Im 17, and what does age have to do with anything?

upbeat forum
#

Makes sense

jovial sun
#

Nah the last third with people fighting each other on vast of open land reminded me of those old YouTube videos where you would see Spider-Man fighting Hulk or something. Those really off looking cgi videos lol

spark pike
#

Frick you mean makes sense?

jovial sun
#

Mando don’t be shitster

spark pike
#

All I said was Grant cant act

cunning timber
jovial sun
#

We all have opinions and views and lala

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Glad y’all know what I mean lol

upbeat forum
#

I know I didn’t critique his opinion!

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Just knew there was a reason why

jovial sun
#

Cause those are always fighting on open lands lol. Just two superheroes fighting

cunning timber
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upbeat forum
#

When I think of what would make this movie better my mind isn’t going like

spark pike
upbeat forum
#

More multiverse heroes

spark pike
#

I would love to write a Flash movie using Keaton Batman and Cage Superman

uncut grotto
#

Might as well go full bonkers tbh

jovial sun
cunning timber
# upbeat forum More multiverse heroes

But you’re not 17, and likely not target audience
 my son, who’s 9, asked me when Val Kilmer is going to show up, I didn’t have the heart to show him what he looks like now.

spark pike
#

YOU HAVE A SON?

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Who’s 9?

#

Nice

uncut grotto
#

I wish ryan reynolds as GL showed up

jovial sun
#

My face when they now making these vids in gta.

spark pike
uncut grotto
upbeat forum
uncut grotto
#

Watch the box office explode

spark pike
#

Keaton Batman, Cage Superman, Reynolds Green Lantern, the ultimate trio

jovial sun
uncut grotto
cunning timber
jovial sun
#

Lydia Tarr Wonder Woman

upbeat forum
#

As the film finished I overheard a kid actually say to his mom “Mother, the nuances surrounding his fate and acceptance of his short lived relationship with his mother were perfect but I missed the presence of Adam West and Brandon Routh, I would’ve even accepted some of the newer established dc actors like Idris Elba but alas, it was fine”

uncut grotto
#

Zack snyder green arrow

cunning timber
spark pike
#

Nephew?

cunning timber
# uncut grotto Dad?

You can call me daddy if you want, I’m not going to acknowledge you but you do you.

spark pike
#

He won’t acknowledge you

#

But I, your cool uncle, will

uncut grotto
#

Smh dad doesn't want pay child support

#

Based uncle, i cant wait to see blue beetle with you

spark pike
#

As I was saying

#

Imagine an ITSV story but with Flash

#

You could make it work

#

With the already established plot

#

Ezra Miller goes back in time to save his mom

#

He succeeds but screws everything up

uncut grotto
#

Yeah add jay garrick, jesse quick, wally west, bart allen

#

Call it The Flash: Speed Force

spark pike
#

I was going to say you could take creative liberties

#

Him saving his mom causes his universe to collapse, so he’s sent to another universe by mistake

#

Imagine a world where Man of Steel never took place

#

A superman minus the super

#

A man who has no idea of his kryptonian roots

jovial sun
spark pike
#

Like my version would have the movie be more


#

Idk

#

Zod focused

#

Have Zod kill Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern or something

uncut grotto
#

I would make the villain reverse flash

uncut grotto
spark pike
#

It could be a lesson for Barry

#

Not to cheat the hero’s path

#

So in the end, we could have Cage Superman hold down Zod

#

While Barry goes back in time to stop himself

uncut grotto
#

Cage does his classic scream

spark pike
#

Thus saving his universe, and allowing this alternate world to thrive

spark pike
#

Though the only downside is that uhm

#

Reynolds Lantern is now alive

#

Basically, my revised edition is by making Barry learn about the hero’s path as his actions caused another universe to have the following issues:

#
  • Washed Up Batman
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  • Farm Boy Superman
#
  • Dead Green Lantern
#

So Barry could teach Superman to be a hero and reignite Batman’s flame to stop Zod long enough so he could go back to save everyone.

rigid lance
#

Cringe

#

Saw that shit in tick tok and I wanted to die

uncut grotto
#

Bros jealous of clod

#

Clods rizz is the reason elemental got a box office boost

rigid lance
#

“An act of god, or an act of clod” pure cringe

spark pike
rigid lance
uncut grotto
spark pike
#

Yeah same here (I didn’t see it)

rigid lance
#

HAHAHAHAHA

#

THIS FILM FLOOPING

#

FUCK YOI EZRA

jovial sun
uncut grotto
#

Disneys probably looking at the box office comeback elemental got and thinking its bcuz of those tweets

idle bone
#

Is it going really bad for the Flash?

jovial sun
#

Not really

idle bone
#

Oh relaly?

idle bone
#

Indiana is gonna be a flop too? Damn, because I see all these youtube channels stating that its already going to be a flop before its release.

#

But I never bothered to watch and check

zenith karma
#

I assume it's gonna be generic as JW Dominion

scenic vale
#

Just curious, What is the worst movie ever made?

spark pike
scenic vale
#

That pig movie

#

Yeah, I wasn’t gonna see that anyways lol

jovial sun
#

I will say this tho, the needle drops were very forgettable

jovial sun
scenic vale
#

Haven’t seen jb2, but, since the 1 one was good


#

Wait. They didn’t make a live action, did they?

#

Bolt was an attempt to the movie secret life of pets đŸ€·

upbeat forum
#

Sucks to suck

jovial sun
#

Flash is prob way better. Let’s be honest here

gentle fox
#

Im not sure

upbeat forum
#

Let’s not be so certain

upbeat forum
#

The whole movie just casually sitting on Twitter

spark pike
upbeat forum
#

Not really something to be proud of

scenic vale
#

Is this for real, I thought Twitter didn’t allow this?,
Putting movies that has been pirated on there sites?

upbeat forum
#

Movies are all over Twitter now

#

Thanks Elon

scenic vale
#

YouTube doesn’t even allow that? Or I don’t think

upbeat forum
#

Well they sure don’t allow it but it takes them a long time before they’re down

scenic vale
#

Great I could now just hop on my computer and watch it without setting foot in the theater. No way I’m going to watch on my tiny screen/ phone lol

#

Thanks for the link

#

I still don’t get that comment though, if the movie is bad, why should we all watch it?

#

Lol

upbeat forum
scenic vale
#

Oh I see

upbeat forum
thin moth
#

Genuinely so glad we as a society decided to not give it anymore money

barren ice
#

But then again, I would listen to your mommy over anyone else smug

thin moth
#

Warner wanted this to succeed the most out of every single movie they might've fricked over, they deserve this

#

It was so funny how empty our showing at the drive in was when I was basically forced to go with my big sis to go see it last Sunday

#

Every other screen had a big amount of cars like elemental and transformers

#

by the time the movie started maybe two or three more cars showed up

pallid onyx
#

id love to go to a drive-in again

#

just not for Flash lol

thin moth
#

I used to like going there a lot

#

After this last visit after some years of not going, it is uh not a optimal way to watch a movie I'd rather not go there again

upbeat forum
#

Honestly I get it for a movie like No Hard Feelings

#

But do you wanna see a blockbuster at a drive in

spark pike
spark pike
#

Its an obsession now.

#

And you turned off the notification for me, do you do this constantly?

#

Like, why do you do this?

#

It’s confusing to me.

rigid lance
#

BRO

#

DID YOU SAVE THE LINK

jovial sun
#

Flash is no where near as bad as Morbius

uncut grotto
#

This movie is getting overhated imo

jovial sun
#

I had a bunch of fun with it, and I have to say its because of the narrative. Didn’t think I was going to be invested in that of all things

pallid onyx
thin moth
#

Zero idea how those guys still have hope

pallid onyx
#

Zero idea how those guys still have hope cope

thin moth
#

Isn't there a lot of dc content that's dark and mature like the ways they like it with the animated movies

pallid onyx
#

I’m sure if someone said that they’ll denounce them as baby shit

thin moth
#

"Live action is for real men I ain't watching no baby crap"

uncut grotto
pallid onyx
jovial sun
uncut grotto
#

Even tho it’s reverse flash

#

The emotion on the backstory was strong

#

I was empathetic and found it sad

jovial sun
#

There were a lot of messy moments which made me think why did they jump cut that so quickly

wanton basalt
#

Who’s gonna tell the snyderbros that this was technically a snyderverse film that failed ConcernedFroge

uncut grotto
#

A reverse flash storyline would’ve helped instead of throwing random bits in trying to make it stick

pallid onyx
uncut grotto
#

The scene where he hugs his mum for the last time was wrenching for me

wanton basalt
wanton basalt
#

Then the tomato soup thing meant nothing like it shouldn’t of changed things if it was reverse flash

#

Wasn’t it just robber/s who robbed the house because they thought the house was empty cause the car was gone

uncut grotto
#

I’m betting the director just threw that in there in the hope for a sequel

wanton basalt
#

Same guy that said the bad cgi was purposeful

jovial sun
#

Reverse flashy would have been chill

uncut grotto
zinc cargo
jovial sun
cunning timber
#

We already have triple Ezra Miller in this film, that should be more than enough for a few lifetime.

uncut grotto
#

Lmaooo

#

Aged like cheese

cunning timber
#

Ehhehe, gimme your house

uncut grotto
#

And now its a morbius level flop

cunning timber
rigid hawk
#

I never thought the flash would flop this badly, it may not even make Black Adam box office numbers.. a movie with Flash and Keaton Batman and it was pretty good imo.

zenith karma
rapid kernel
#

not sure what happened to the Flash box office wise, I think its one of those movies that will be discovered by new viewers down the line, it is a fun movie

#

I think spiderverse just connected with younger people more

gentle fox
zinc cargo
jovial sun
#

Winning

verbal relic
#

Why wasn't Ben Affleck credited in this movie?

winged steeple
#

that's such a drop it probably won't even beat transformers in the box office

uncut grotto
#

Thats crazy pretty much means beyond opening low

#

mostly everyone who wanted to see the film has already seen it so even without the competition excuse of spiderverse ppl just dont give a fuck about the flash

wheat shard
verbal relic
pallid onyx
rigid hawk
#

Just crazy

idle bone
#

3rd DCEU flop in a row.

pallid onyx
#

It’s funny and pathetic to see Snyderbros quickly hang Flash over Gunn’s head when it was largely being done in the other regime

light parcel
#

the only part gunn had control over was the ending, and i thought the ending was hilarious

cunning timber
light parcel
#

literally the last like one minute

spark pike
#

Snyder Fans are so delusional

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If I were to compare James Gunn’s and Zack Snyder’s CBMs, it would be a landslide victory for Gunn.

spark pike
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LMAO

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APPLE TV?

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They hit rock bottom!

uncut grotto
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Discord is fucked rn or is it just me

zinc cargo
uncut grotto
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My keypad keeps bouncing

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And i can't click on links

zinc cargo
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Refresh?

upbeat forum
wheat shard
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Jesus

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“The hierarchy of power of the dc universe is about to change”

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The flash is the “greatest comic book movie ever made”

upbeat forum
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Funny thing about this

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It’s going to end under Black Adam’s box office

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Who would’ve thought

jovial sun
manic garden
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Did you guys know time is like spaghetti

uncut grotto
scenic vale
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Saw it, wouldn’t say it was the best movie.
[story was just to basic]

Stein’s gate, had more time travel in it.
Should’ve taken a page from there book. Doesn’t matter if it’s recycling, almost everyone does it.
Besides, it’s the flash.
Don’t know how long it took to make the movie, etc., but they should’ve spent more time on it.

  1. is Barry Hispanic
  2. if George is going to be the new Batman, does that mean we gonna see Batman beyond
  3. is Batman beyond part of the JL or the JSA
uncut grotto
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I guess barry is hispanic if his mom is

scenic vale
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That’s what got me lol

uncut grotto
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Pretty sure batman beyond is part of justice league beyond

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A future iteration of the team

scenic vale
thin moth
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Felt like the mom being Hispanic was an afterthought

uncut grotto
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They just wanna hate on gunn tbh

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Because they want gunns universe to fail because its not snyders

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They hope if gunn fails warner will give the snyderverse another shot

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I loved zsjl and where it was headed but I doubt zaslav would want that if gunn fails more likely joker 2019 low budget type stuff

winged steeple
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the flash movie isn't even that bad, so it's almost kinda strange that audiences aren't watching it

shell flower
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Is there supposed to be another reset after The Flash. Cause it ends off unclear wether Clooney is Batman or not, and then Jason Momoa is still Aquaman which comes out after

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And Affleck is supposed to be in Aquaman 2 as well

winged steeple
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one nice thing about the dceu ending is that the movies aren't setting up more movies

shell flower
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I like that too. Leaves room for speculating

upbeat forum
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And that’ll be the last one

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Affleck is not in Aquaman 2

shell flower
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Why does it take place after The Flash then

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And yea he is, Jason Momoa said Affleck was in it

upbeat forum
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Well it takes place before

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But it releases after

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I shall explain to you

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So Aquaman 2 has had countless reshoots so that they can fit it into making sense after The Flash