#shot types

24 messages · Page 1 of 1 (latest)

burnt yew
#

hii so i just have a super quick question... do horror films typically use lots of camera movements in shots or should i stick to mostly just shots using the 30 degree rule? thank youu

gentle vigil
#

The 30-degree angle?

#

Only heard anything about 30 degrees when talking about minimum changes from shot to shot

#

it really depends on your style

#

you can make a horror with locked off cameras,
or you can make horror with handheld all of the time
you can make horror with nothing but dolly shots
you can make horror with a healthy mix of shot types

#

the thing about horror is to hold the shots for longer than usual in the edit

#

so as to make viewers anxious

#

In horror, it's way more about lighting and music than shot type

#

implications and subtext arre your firiends

burnt yew
#

thank you so much kip! helps a lot

gentle vigil
#

did you mean the 180 degree rule?

#

Shot reverse shot with 180 deree rule

burnt yew
#

in school the 30° rule is like moving 30° to change how close you are to the subject of that makes sense?

gentle vigil
#

2x in 2x out
30° to the side minimum

burnt yew
#

yep

#

thank youuu

safe swan
#

Note: Unless you're making a double take or a jumpcut.... in those case you WANT to mess with the rules.

#

The 30° and 2x rules, are designed to give naturalistic editing connections between the shots; the 180° rule is to help the audience create situational/environmental awareness, and to (again) naturalistically connect the shots, to lessen the jarringness.... now... if it's jarringness you WANT, then you would "break" the rules.

#

In "breaking" the rules, you have to understand that you're intentionally creating a visual disconnect, causing a sense of jarringness. Since it could (depending on how you treat them) take the audience out of the scene (acting/action etc), you better have a damn good reason for breaking them, narratively or tonally (or other reasons).

#

TL;DR: Learning the rules are fine, but rules are meant to be broken (once in a while), so you must have a firm grasp of the rules and "WHY THOSE RULES EXIST, WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO DO/PREVENT", before breaking them.

burnt yew
#

thank you!!

floral phoenix
#

The thing with horror is that it changes through the decades, the language of it. A good bit of education for yourself making a modern horror is to watch the first Saw movie. It’s the last time there was a significant shift in how horror was made. It also has the benefit of being low budget and shot in a very short amount of time (18 days).