The Mandalorian S3

[storm garden]

If the first order is anything like Palpy's empire of old, its gonna be out with the old, in with the new.

that's how they phased out the clones.

[sly sage]

However i wouldnt put the first order and the empire on the same level. The empire is like a government which on paper you can get behind some of their ideas whilst the first order are just ment to be straight up space nazis

Ironically lucas wanted the empire to be space nazis but after spin offs and books etc its clear they arent space nazis and instead just a very vile and despicable government whilst the first order are literally just space nazis

[storm garden]

They brain zapped Preshing cuz he was linked to Project Palpy, think they wont get rid of Gideon too? He came too close to going to trial.

[sly sage]

The zap was a memory wipe device, it wasnt ment to hurt the doctor, the new republic werent torturing him. it only seems to have because of the (probably) imperial spy

In fact in the episode before the dial is turned up its very evident that the feeling of the zap machine is actually very pleasant for the doctor. We see him relax and smile a little

[storm garden]

Till Kane amps it up.

Man's probably a vegetable now.

So apparently, Rey's father is a failed, Forceless clone of Palpy. That is...reassuring.

[sinful sparrow]

I got a quesiton.

Question.

Does the republic not have lie detector tests? When the lady goes in and does her interview with the robot, you're telling me there is no way they could hook some shit up to her and see if she's lying, especially with all the tec they have?

[sly sage]

dont think lie detectors exist in star wars beyond force users being able to read you

[sinful sparrow]

So we have all this shit.

[sly sage]

and if they do they can probably be scammed like in real life, its a reason why lie detector results cant be used in court

[sinful sparrow]

We got cybernetics to the point of being able to live with just a orgas.

organs

We got sentient driods..

[sly sage]

also it'd shorten down like 75% of all star wars if lie detectors existed

now that would be lazy writing

[sinful sparrow]

Fair enough

[sly sage]

you seem to be one to bitch about lazy writing (despite there being little) and then give the most lazy possible events

[sinful sparrow]

It's logical.

If you're trying to imply logical writting is lazy because it can't be drawn out, we have no reason to debate writting methods because we see shit differently.

[sly sage]

@storm garden im watching the first of the 2 finale bad batch episodes. do u recon Phee likes tech

she seems to be especially interested in him also giving him a nickname

[sinful sparrow]

"Character shouldn't do X because we then couldn't have an action scene" to me isn't the best writing.

Now if you explain why a character doesn't do an action, fair enough.

[sly sage]

no reason and yet you're still talking

[sinful sparrow]

*you're.

[sly sage]

we can do this convo in portuguese if u want to make fun of someone elses non mother tounge

[sinful sparrow]

And this is a public forum, I can talk if I want.

I don't speak portuguese.

[sly sage]

exactly.

[sinful sparrow]

?

Wdym exactly?

[sly sage]

im saying mocking someones 2nd language is pretty stupid when you dont even speak their first

[sinful sparrow]

Like I'm not trying to mock you're English I'm genuinely confused by what you are trying to say.

[sly sage]

i mean the "you're" comment thats all

anyway

@storm garden are we the only ones who care about the bad batch?

[sinful sparrow]

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Lie_detector

It's says it's in cannon.

[sly sage]

read it. "thermal mode, pulse rate and respiration scanner"... what we have right now lmao

[sinful sparrow]

So, we can't atleast deploy that just to be sure?

[sly sage]

their lie detectors can be faked or disingenious like we have now

[sinful sparrow]

We should just take there word for it?

Like with all that tec, come on now.

[sly sage]

no, there is a reason lie detectors arent admissable in a court. its because they're incredibly easy to trick

[sinful sparrow]

That's irl this is Star Wars

There is no sound and space, we should't hear shooting

Ships should be on fire.

[sly sage]

there being a lot of tech doesnt mean everything is possible, there is no teleportation device in star wars, hell their communication devices are pretty basic other than holograms, their computers are akin to that of the early 20th century

[sinful sparrow]

There are no teleportation devices Irl either.

So what's you

[sly sage]

take season 2 of the mandalorian for example, when they're infultrating an imperial base to find grogus location. the cameras they have are shitty quality and in black and white

[sinful sparrow]

Yes, but we also have sentient robots.

[odd phoenix]

reading this conversation is costing me braincells

[sly sage]

what? there is no light speed travel irl. im saying not everything is possible just because its a sci-fi world or galaxy rather

[storm garden]

Dunno for sure. Just seems that way.

[sly sage]

did u read my previous comment?

[sly sage]

.

[sinful sparrow]

But it just feels like the idea of the Republican not deploying any sort of cavoit for the possibility of the captured troops to lie during the interviews is kind of silly.

[sly sage]

i feel like im arguing with a child. their lie dectors are like ours and so they can be faked, which is why they likely arent used

its really not a hard concept to understand

ive said this like 3 times

[sinful sparrow]

So why not try something else.

[sly sage]

what else is there to try?

they interview and interrogate

[sinful sparrow]

Like you're acting like them simply asking "Are you betraying us" and taking there word for it isn't silly.

[storm garden]

Yeah, i think she likes him. Dunno why, he's kind of an introvert vulcan.

[sinful sparrow]

Hell, the scientist was shaking in his boots, and they still believed him.

The lie detectors are better than nothing man.

[sly sage]

im introverted whats the problem with that

[sinful sparrow]

Way better.

[sly sage]

i am curious as to why she seems into tech tho

probably because of how smart he is

[storm garden]

I dont think he even wants to reciprocate the feelings.

[sly sage]

yeah thats what i thought

tho he does seem a little flustered around her

and she flirts with him a lot

[storm garden]

Dude is hooked to his datapad like Echo is to his scomp arm, almost.

[sinful sparrow]

What episode was this?

[sly sage]

yeah but whenever talking to her he is far more awkward than when talking to anyone else

[storm garden]

current ones.

se2ep15

[sinful sparrow]

Oh you're talking about Bad Batch?

I check outta that tbh.

[storm garden]

Its on par with Clone wars, i'd say.

[sinful sparrow]

WOAAH

Woaaah

On par?

[sly sage]

ive enjoyed it just as much as the clone wars

[sinful sparrow]

Nah I'm gonna have to disagree.

I don't think it's bad.

[sly sage]

definitely better than the first 3 or so seasons

[sinful sparrow]

And he it could b-

First 3?

Nahhhhhh

[storm garden]

Lemme guess, you think Omega's annoying.

[sinful sparrow]

Nope

[sly sage]

tbf omega is annoying

but i just hate children

LMAO

[storm garden]

...ok.

[sly sage]

ezra pisses me off too

[sinful sparrow]

I just think the story lacks a little direction in the first season.

[storm garden]

Its the empire slowly taking over as seen from the perspective of a covert group of special clone soldiers.

[sinful sparrow]

It seemed like every episode was some kind of "side quest"

[sly sage]

Omega is definetly far better in the 2nd season.

[sinful sparrow]

Yeah I understand, but in my opinion, I think it lacked direction. It was going all over the place.

But no I don't find Omega annoying at all.

I actually liked her character.

[storm garden]

So was the bad batch, gotta earn credits.

[sly sage]

shes growing on me

[sinful sparrow]

I guess

And hey, maybe it's trying to be more episodic.

[storm garden]

At least she's not like "giggles Look at me, i'm a little girl!"

[sinful sparrow]

But I just don't remeber it clicking for me

[storm garden]

Heck, she's older than the clones, in terms of years.

[sly sage]

no in season 1 she was more like "giggles look at me im doing exactly what i was explicitly told not to do, ehehe, ive put everyone around me in danger" now tho she is far more mature and thinks before she acts

tho she does have her moments still

[sinful sparrow]

Yeah

But at least she had some charm, and it didn't annoy me that much.

[mossy pumice]

Count me in too✋🏻

[sinful sparrow]

That's another thing about Mando

Baby Yoda has nothing to do.

Like I'm sorry, there is no reason for him to be here.

[sly sage]

take so bad, ima just pretend i didnt read it

[sly sage]

w tbh

not talked about enough

[sinful sparrow]

Ok how?

Wasn't the whole point of season 1-2 to get him to his people?

Everything everyone has ever done was to get him safely to a jedi.

[sly sage]

i feel it doesnt get the attention it deserves and that'll just cause them to not continue making more niche spin off animated shows like this

[storm garden]

The Jedi gave him a choice.

[mossy pumice]

Yes & i was wondering why no one made a channel about it.

[sinful sparrow]

Yeah, but now what?

[storm garden]

Now he chose his Mandalorian daddy. You are now up to speed.

[mossy pumice]

Yep, and also how it took a best turn with real character progression of Crosshair at ep 12, and tbf it had quite a good writing there.

And now in ep 16. ||Goddamn, what a sacrifice by Tech🙌🏻||.

[sly sage]

the entire point of the third season in terms of grogu is to show him slowly becoming a mandalorian foundling

[sly sage]

ment to tag this

[sinful sparrow]

We barly spend time with Gorgu

[sly sage]

actually on episode 16 and clicked without thinking. sadge

[sinful sparrow]

Has had a max of maybe 20 minutes of screen time.

This season.

Not enough time to develop shit.

[sly sage]

im actually watching it right now

[mossy pumice]

Am so so so sorry🥲

[sinful sparrow]

Watching what?

[sly sage]

hes currently ||hanging on by a wire||

sorry

[sinful sparrow]

Nvm

[mossy pumice]

I didn't meant to, at all, if i would've known🥲

[sinful sparrow]

Like Gorgu at this point is more of an object then a character.

[sly sage]

its okay, im watching it now and if anything knowing whats about to happen makes it even sadder to watch

[sinful sparrow]

He has some interesting lore behind him and he's cute but that's about it.

[sly sage]

||NO TECH NO, NO PLAN 99, STOP IT YOU FOOL||

damn

thats sad

[storm garden]

Ooo, Project Stardust...

[sly sage]

should have been ||echo, i actually really liked tech, he was one of my favourites||

[sinful sparrow]

?*

What's that?

[storm garden]

You know what it is.

[sinful sparrow]

No I don't.

Wait

[sly sage]

lmao

[sinful sparrow]

OHHHHHHH

I get it

[storm garden]

Hint: If you dont know, Alderann's about to find out.

[mossy pumice]

Ikr! Such a well done gripping scene too! It's at times like this Bad Batch really outdoes itself when not doing filler eps.

Damn! ||Even ep3 & ep 12 where we got really compelling and full circle arc of Crosshair and his character progression.||

[sinful sparrow]

OH NO

TO SOON BRO TO SOON

[mossy pumice]

Ahh i can understand, ||and also i felt sad cause i can slightly relate to Tech in a way, cause I'm a pedantic nerd myself too.||

[sly sage]

||tech was literally one of the best characters cause hes the most like 90% of the fanbase||

[sinful sparrow]

Shouldn't there be a chat for bad batch?

[sly sage]

real sadge moment

[storm garden]

They never made one.

[sinful sparrow]

Why?

Why do some shows get chats, but others don't?

[sly sage]

by "about to find out" you mean in like 17 years or so from the events of the bad batch

[mossy pumice]

Yeah ||*When have we ever followed orders?*🥲||

[storm garden]

replace that by "gonna find out the hard way"

[sly sage]

also fuck Cid

[sinful sparrow]

Cid is the Sniper right?

[sly sage]

no

[sinful sparrow]

No

[storm garden]

Big lizard lady

[sinful sparrow]

She's the bar alien

yeah

Who's the sniper again?

[sly sage]

crosshair

[sinful sparrow]

Right right

[sly sage]

NO OMEGA

like

this is what i mean

[sinful sparrow]

You know, this kinda reminds me of GI JOE

[sly sage]

she has her moments

[storm garden]

Damn, Saw guererra just showed up.

[sinful sparrow]

GI Joe mixed with Rambo

YK WHAT

FUCK IT I'MA WATCH ME SOME BAD BATCH

Is this season any good?

[mossy pumice]

I always thought they should distance themselves from Cid ||cause as much as they seem they care, they'll always takes care of their self interest & don't give a fck😑(actually true of most people these days too). Omega being herself, which i don't blame, she's a young naive kid who's sees the world in rose tinted colours still and believes in better, because of her they seemed to have cut her slack time and again. If it weren't for her, Hunter always would be vary of those. He thought of Omega first and foremost as a father, so saw it coming. Idk why they had to go to Cid again, like seriously 😩||.

[sinful sparrow]

BEFORE I START

Is this season any good?

[mossy pumice]

Yes, it does have very damn good eps, especially ones of Crosshair

[sly sage]

yeah why didnt they just go back to the planet with phee?

that does confuse me

cid didnt know where they were and they were safe there

[mossy pumice]

Since they'll be on their tail at any cost having been suspects of almost ||bombing special high ranking officers of Empire, they can track their assess down even down to Phee planet, and i think they didn't wanna risk that. At least that's my thinking. They're very considerate and that's their only safe haven cause Hunter did want to retire themselves as soldiers for good and lay down their mettle and settle there||

That's my thinking atm but that explanation too does raise up so many questions and loopholes.

[sly sage]

also damn, that reveal at the end

also i just understand what he ment by ||plan 99, plan 99 must be a heroic sacrifice to continue the mission like clone 99 in the clone wars show||

[sly sage]

episode 12 is some of the best animated star wars ive seen

[mossy pumice]

Ikr! Didn't expect that, it's too out of the blue and weird for me, hope they can make it a better cohesive idea of how exactly is it the case.

And damn Kevin Kiner score at end credits, ||that brass requiem, sounds like a funeral theme for Tech in a way🥲🙌🏻 it's at certain moments like this Kiner does shine up with composition apart from his filler writing.||

[sly sage]

its really incredibly how stupid i am but when it comes to star wars i know just about as much as you can when it comes to canon lore

except for the sequels

i try to know as little about that shit show as possible

[mossy pumice]

I hope they retcon it somehow, and take up some of the good storyline from SW legends comics.

[sly sage]

i doubt they will but if they do it'd make me very happy

[mossy pumice]

Yep, I've only just started reading very recently, like Thrawn Trilogy & New Jedi Order either one of them can make for very good sequel trilogy material.

[sly sage]

the ending of season 2 of the mandalorian almost made me cry from how happy i was seeing luke be luke after the last jedi butcherd the character

im still reading the canon thrawn trilogy i have all 3 books but i need to finish it

i also should get started on the high republic stuff but the content ive read so far has been so bad

[mossy pumice]

Ohh good, you just saved me from typing up a discreet spoiler😂

[sly sage]

i mean if your in the mandalorian spoiler chat and havent seen the season 2 finale then thats on you tbh

[mossy pumice]

I meant about Thrawn Trilogy

[sly sage]

have u seen the i need a hero edit of the luke hallway scene @mossy pumice ?

[mossy pumice]

No i didn't.

[storm garden]

I'm thinking Plan 99 is sacrifice to avoid compromising the squad, or something.

[sly sage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHgY7LIiaSM&t=34s&ab_channel=BUGZ
i think this is the right one

holy shit it goes so hard

[sly sage]

yes, like clone 99 sacrificing himself in the clone wars show

thats what the plan is based off

[storm garden]

Also, the went back to Ord Mantell because Omega got injured in the mission.

[sly sage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rzo31YMPBQ&ab_channel=BUGZ
there is also this one, both go super hard

[storm garden]

Cid...that two-timing bitch...

[sly sage]

lord please, kill of cid in the most painful slow way possible in season 3 🙏

[storm garden]

I like that Wrecker took a stun ring and didnt stop him at all.

[sinful sparrow]

Welp

I just got spoiled

Ooof

[storm garden]

Spoiler channel.

although maybe i should censor stuff.

[sinful sparrow]

For mando

Not bad batch

If I go into a channel for Ant Man, I shouldn't see spoilers for Shazam. It's fine tho

[storm garden]

Understood. My bad.

[sinful sparrow]

It's fine.

[storm garden]

Good season. Will tune in for the next.

If there will be one...

[fair linden]

Much better episode

[odd phoenix]

ign rated this episode the lowest of the season

literally clowns

[fair linden]

wh

[odd phoenix]

like it's embarrassing at this point

this was literally a great episode

[fair linden]

it was the best of the season

2 was ok, 3 was mid, 4 not good
1 was good

[odd phoenix]

ive liked all the episodes so far tbh

[granite rapids]

Easily my favorite episode

[sinful sparrow]

Def wasn’t the lowest

But tbh this hasn’t been a great season.

It’s kinda been all over the place.

[stoic plaza]

From me this 5 episode is best of season until now

[pastel shard]

definitely the best of the season, but this whole season has been very mid so far IMO

shoutouts to the talking stick they use for meetings lmao

[storm garden]

Its a beskar hammer. To forge the armors and weapons no doubt. This is the Way.

[sinful sparrow]

This is the Way.

[storm garden]

Its a good way to keep order during debates. Only them who hold the hammer shall speak.

I like that Din and Paz Viszla are tight now.

[sly sage]

For me its
1 Confusing but good
2. Good
3. Good
4. Good
5. Great

I loved all episodes so far

[ember ember]

so... interesting developments this episode and Tim Meadowas

[low turret]

Episode 4 was best of the season so far

Can’t wait to see Sabine this season

[granite rapids]

I doubt we will see Sabine this season

[low turret]

I’m pretty sure we will

Two rebels references already + bo actively seeking Mandalorians + she was cast a while ago

[granite rapids]

Maybe but I think she will show up in Ahsoka first, only 3 episodes left and I don't see where she fits.. maybe Bo katan will also look for Sabine

[low turret]

I think it’ll be a finale appearance

Like Luke in season 2

[boreal tartan]

Zeb in live action wow

Looked cool too

[storm garden]

All but the head.

And yeah, it was cool.

he's Republic 100% now.

[past stone]

only 3 episodes left

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-crying-walter-dying-gif-20964719

[storm garden]

they're gonna be great.

imo.

[past stone]

no doubt

i just dont want to wait another 2 years

[odd phoenix]

well we get ahsoka show later this year

that will almost certainly have mando in it a bit

[storm garden]

Maybe.

Still gonna watch it for Ahsoka. And possibly Ezra.

He been missing since before the battle of Yavin.

must be like...10 years older, or something like that.

maybe 5.

Dont know.

[boreal tartan]

I love ashoka

[low turret]

Ezra will be in the Ahsoka show

[storm garden]

She's looking for him and Thrawn, right?

[granite rapids]

Ahsoka is looking for Thrawn that's confirmed

[storm garden]

So...Since Bo-Katan got told by the armorer to remove her helmet...is she still Mandalorian?

[low turret]

Ezra’s already been cast for Ahsoka

[past stone]

What?

She had her helmet off all the time previously

Was she not mandalorian then

[storm garden]

Nope.

She became Mandalorian when she bathed in the waters, saving Din Djarin.

And she didnt remove her helmet since, so the Armorer declared her redeemed, and a Mandalorian.

Before, she was just a Night Owl.

Mandalorians can take off their helmet only to eat, and in absolute privacy.

This is the Way.

[past stone]

She was always mandalorian

Just didn’t qualify as such by cult standards

[storm garden]

I'll rephrase my question then. Since Bo-Katan got told by the armorer to remove her helmet...is she no longer part of the Armorer's convert?

[past stone]

I guess?

But that doesn’t really matter since be the end of the episode the armorer wants bo to unite the mandalorians, covert or not

[storm garden]

Some of the hardcores are gonna leave. Paz Viszla might be first.

Not everyone appreciates changes to long-lived traditions.

[mossy pumice]

I thought it's an April fools joke and scrolled up to see if it's a message from yesterday but nah.

Just looked it up & Damn! they did cast Ezra, Sabine & also Hera. Woah!🔥 I wonder who they cast as Thrawn.

[ember ember]

is THIS the show that gives us Chopper?!

I just love that droid to bits!

he's murderous

but cute

[thorn bane]

What’s everyone’s favourite scene so far?

[storm garden]

of what, S3 or the whole series?

[thorn bane]

S3

[storm garden]

The aerial ship fight before the bit with the doctor for me. Great flying.

[ancient hollow]

i mean i dont have one from s3

but i have multiple from the series

everytime grogu says patu

cuz patu

[storm garden]

Luke vs the Dark Troopers. Goddarn, it goes hard.

[ancient hollow]

true

also

its almost 1 am here

new episode today

here

[mossy pumice]

Ohk, so just finished ep6

Damn, so Mandalorians can run & do pursuits huh?! Armour always looked too heavy and clumsy at least for me, so i never knew they'll actually do an ep of them doing pursuits in live action.

Quite nice more or less

[past stone]

Easily my favorite episode this season

They should really just give bryce dallas howard her own show or movie

[tawdry swallow]

||looks like the sabers hers again 👀||

[mossy pumice]

I don't wanna sound dumb, but do i need to watch Star wars first?

[indigo kettle]

What a shit show

[solid sleet]

Yeah, and og trilogy + prequels + clone Wars animated series are recommended

[storm garden]

Wow. Didnt expect Jack Black to show up. Pleasant surprise.

And Christopher Lloyd? Great Scott!

[past stone]

You can basically watch season 1 without any prior knowledge, but checking out the OT (4, 5, 6) would give context as to what the empire was

S2 is largely the same, but there are quite a few callbacks to the prequel trilogy and clone wars

[storm garden]

You know what the French word for pleasure is? Plaisir. Let that sink in.

[mossy pumice]

Before starting S2, I'd clearly say to be acquainted with Clone Wars, because some of the weight of the callbacks can't be felt unless you see that.

[balmy quail]

Wtf jack black and lizzo doing in star wars

[boreal tartan]

Celeberity cameos is creatively bankrupt

[storm garden]

I thought they were nice.

Sort of a gross caricature of the lazy nouveau-riche.

[lunar hedge]

Best episode of the season.

[ancient hollow]

mmm yes sir grogu

[storm garden]

Sir Grogu, damn right.

[mossy pumice]

Lizzo is now canon on the star wars universe

Some Jedi may unrionically be jamming to this
https://youtu.be/XaCrQL_8eMY

[storm garden]

When they're not listening to The Hu, anyhow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJZfEh3EciU

[buoyant otter]

i love how much these shows keep having total shock castings like andy serkis in andor

[sly sage]

whats wrong with it?

[sly sage]

this episode has definetly been the weakest of the season but non the less enjoyable and im excited to see what the final 2 episodes has

[storm garden]

I dunno, we got to see two Mandalorians fight.

Bo-Katan's the uncontested boss,now.

[granite rapids]

This new episode was definitely very divisive with many hating it, I personally quite enjoyed it

[sly sage]

haters gonna hate

personally loving this season as much as season 2

[storm garden]

Christopher Lloyd organizing a droid rebellion sounds kind of awesome on paper.

[granite rapids]

I still love season 2 more but I'm quite enjoying season 3 as well

[storm garden]

Worse doesent always mean bad, right?

[granite rapids]

Worst is bad though

[storm garden]

i meant worse with an "e". sry

[granite rapids]

It's still bad but I guess you are speaking relatively like season 3 of Mando is worse than season 2

[past stone]

I thought this episode was pretty fun

definitely liked it more than any of the previous episodes

[storm garden]

yah. But s3 is still good, despite not being s2.

[granite rapids]

Oh I absolutely agree

Season 2 though was just so good

[storm garden]

They're probably keeping the earth shattering zingers for the finale.

Gonna be hard to beat Luke having a hallway fight tho...

[granite rapids]

Agreed

[pastel shard]

first thundercat, then lizzo

who's next

[pastel shard]

this got me lmao

man remember when this show looks good

back when they had greig fraser shooting it

[sinful sparrow]

Lizo and Jack Black…..

I’m sorry man, this season is mid asf.

It’s all over the place tbh

Sorry Lizzo can’t act for shit. Only reason she’s here is for promo and that’s it.

Sue me.

The episode itself was another side quest, and the most pointless out of all of them.

We brought this show to a stretching holt so Lizo and Jack black could fuck around for 20 minutes.

I just wanted to see some more character man.

Some development with Mando, instead this show spends time with its stupid cloning plot and now this shit.

[pulsar wind]

dont forget christopher lloyd :D

[mossy pumice]

oh damn i should start downloading these now

[mossy pumice]

I wonder if Thundercat will ever make a song for a Thundercats movie

[odd phoenix]

i freaked out when he showed up. like yeah, jack black is amazing and im sure lots of people love lizzo, but CHRISTOPHER FUCKIN' LLOYD

[buoyant otter]

It's funny to me how there's all this Disney directed angst that tries to retroactively rewrite how the prequels were kinda bad, but we get the most George Lucasy, prequel esque episode ever, and those same people think it's an abomination

My only disappointment was that this felt like a detective story and reminds me that it's a shame they can't pull rian Johnson back to this franchise to give us a star wars whodunnit episode

Don't even need his whole proposed trilogy, just give me an episode where Mando is stuck on a passenger freighter and has to solve a murder

[boreal tartan]

Goofy ahh episode

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-alert-goofy-alert-gif-25027287

[storm garden]

Jack Black and Lizo were kinda goofy, yes.

But i figure they were supposed to be.

Characters called for it.

[boreal tartan]

I think its goofy in a creatively bankrupt way

[buoyant otter]

lucas put even more goofy and creatively bankrupt shit in his movies

[storm garden]

Its a satire of the egoistical, pompous, lazy, irresponsible aristocracy.

Kinda like French nobility before the Revolution.

Oh, these two would have gone to the guillotine first.

[prisma hollow]

i have less of an issue with the cameos (Lizzo and Jack had fun and I can get behind that) but man this show went from looking intriguing as hell to an Avocados from Mexico Super Bowl ad

[mossy pumice]

https://youtu.be/HnzNZ0Mdx4I

[granite rapids]

It's great

[mossy pumice]

Glimpses of Thrawn though 😍

I just hope it has a good music composer. Not the underwhelming and very filler score we're getting by Shirley from Mando S3😩

Even Natalie Holt held quite a lot back for Obi Wan Kenobi series, cause she has gave quite a unique fusion of classical & synthscapes in Loki ost(never saw the series & not planning to anytime) & she has quite a musical sense.

[mossy pumice]

Ik. I just hope Filoni directed eps don't rely too much on cameos and all, and invest in better story telling. The cameo shockfactor and selling on nostalgia doesn't work too well in long run.

They could've gotten better directors I'd say🤔

[storm garden]

Ok, this looks like its gonna kick ass.

[granite rapids]

Same but the rebels characters are not cameos though in Ahsoka.. they are main characters

[mossy pumice]

Ik they are, I'm saying other than that, i mean knowing Filoni, ik how the man has the tendency and can't help himself most of the time lol

This is more or less an unspoken Rebels S5

[storm garden]

Ray stevenson as a Dark Jedi, tho.

[mossy pumice]

And are they seriously still continuing with Rey?! They announced a new SW film which says will be based on Rey🤮 building the new Jedi order and set 15 years after rise of skywalker 🤮.

Ohh ffs😑

[storm garden]

Where did you read that?

[mossy pumice]

Official news drop from Star Wars celebration day i guess. Which is screening right now

https://twitter.com/discussingfilm/status/1644305839686074372?s=46&t=7913ARZBRZ9iHpmlsl52LQ

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm)

Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy’s ‘STAR WARS’ film will follow the establishing of a new Jedi Order.

It is set 15 years after ‘THE RISE OF SKYWALKER’. #SWCE

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[storm garden]

I dont hate Rey, perse. Maybe they do better by her this time around.

Provided they have better screenwriters and a bloody plan.

[mossy pumice]

This one I'm really intrigued btw! I bet he definitely read some of the legend comics or read Star Wars Dawn of Jedi issues😍.

https://twitter.com/discussingfilm/status/1644305621322178560?s=46&t=7913ARZBRZ9iHpmlsl52LQ

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm)

James Mangold will direct a ‘STAR WARS’ film about the first Jedi, described as a biblical epic. #SWCE

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[storm garden]

Lightsabers wired to batteries. This'll be something.

[mossy pumice]

I so had a glimmer of hope they'll retcon sequel trilogy soon like in coming decades while give out as much post og trilogy stuff as possible and retcon it in background slowly.

Sequel trilogy is so uninspiring and very cluttered. And having read Star Wars legend comics for first time since like last year etc, Thrawn Trilogy & New Jedi Order, idk how TF Disney could even able to think to ruin George Lucas plans like that.

What could've been!😩

[storm garden]

Directors bickering instead of having a unified vision. Woulda gone well if JJ hadnt copied a new hope, and Rian didnt try to destroy everything with his "Kill the past" approach.

[mossy pumice]

For the record, i didn't see Rise of Skywalker, having to hear so many bitchings and cries from my best friends who grew up with it, I'm pretty sure it's not worth wasting that 2 hours of my.

I just bought Rise of Skywalker tickets back then just to see Tenet prologue, and immediately got tf out before the film started

[mossy pumice]

And yes, and then some say Rian is a good director in general, which i agree, but that doesn't make him infallible and his approach to Last Jedi and story progression more or less really contradicted point of Lucas vision for star wars in general and what it actually stands for.

[storm garden]

||Palpy comes back, gets owned. Kylo goes back to the light, gets owned. Calrissian has a daughter, Rey's a Palpatine, renames herself to Skywalker. The end.||

[mossy pumice]

Unfortunately I did read the plot of the film in wiki & that's some of the dumbest shit ever made, probably because JJ, lazy af director who made 1 or 2 good movies in his life(I'd say mildly decent flicks), read so many fanfics and theories and made it into a film 🤦🏻

[storm garden]

Hopefully the next trilogy wont be marred by backstage fuckery.

[mossy pumice]

You can't do a new one which is based on this cluster fuck and pretend it's better now. I'd say it's better to go with silent clean slate reset in background, like i said above, cause Disney can't say by their own words they'd retcon, basically it'll be a self admittance saying they did wrong(they have such useless ego stuck up their ass they'll never admit 😑) and then do as much post og trilogy & post prequel trilogy stuff.

But nahh, looks like they still think they can build on top of that cluster fuck😑.

[storm garden]

Shows are pretty good right now, and they are leading to the fustercluck you describe.

[mossy pumice]

Like in dc i never, CBMs in general i never see cause i grew up a comic book reader & wasn't a fan of some of the adaptation choices they take of some good comic book storyline they miss that point.

And DC i never saw post BvS and whatever tf is with Snyder's take on immigrant Superman story approach and a veteran Batman ffs. He dragged too much with overusage of symbolism it goes on the territories of being a very forced inclusive wokeness bs🤦🏻.

I never even knew they made Black Adam film, new Suicide Squad, Shazam & Flash with apparently Keatons Batman(whatever tf that is) and MCU idk there's this reunion of 3 spideys.. tf?

So I'm really glad when i saw Gunn apparently is head of new DC studio, and thought this cluster fuck can't be salvaged so as a comic book reader myself, he should take it upon himself to do a clean slate reboot leaving some characters in this new one. Which is what I so hoped to see in SW now with sequel trilogy. Doing what's necessary even though how daunting it can be for better storytelling and staying true to the vision. @storm garden

Btw i never even saw Endgame to this day & most of MCU in general. It's too far gone for me, what would've been a completely different approach from Favreau before Disney bought them out.

[buoyant otter]

A sci Fi take on a sword and sandals kinda movie seems very interesting to me

[sly sage]

1 lighter episode and you all lose your shit

[pastel shard]

Ay woah

I've been saying the show has been looking worse since s2

[sly sage]

episode was defs the weakest of the season but its still a great season. last season had the spider episode lets not forget that. that shit was weird af

[pastel shard]

Don't put me on the bandwagon

I've been a hater

[sly sage]

haters gonna hate. im still enjoying this season just as much as i did season 2. also season 2 was great

[pastel shard]

Me watching the episodes when they drop at 3am

[sly sage]

8 for me so i can watch as soon as i wake up

[pastel shard]

i am a bit harsher on this season

mainly because of the fact that disney/lucasfilm have proven that they're able to make prestige television with shows like Andor

and now I just expect more out of everything else they're making

[sly sage]

i really dont like Andor

[pastel shard]

crazy

andor is legitimately the best thing to come out of star wars since 1980

because its not trying to be a good star wars show, its just trying to be a good show that actually has something to say

[sly sage]

think its overrated. also Obi-Wan Kenobi and The Book Of Boba Fett are so over hated too its crazy. mfs acting like its the worst most evil shit disney has made since the 1940s ww2 cartoons

i loved 'The Book Of Boba Fett' and 'Obi-Wan Kenobi' was great

[pastel shard]

aight i think we just look for two fundementally different things in television then lmao

because i really disliked both of those

[spare monolith]

Andor is way better.

But it’s not the best thing since 1980

[sly sage]

i was really hoping for a political thriller from Andor and it just didnt feel like that. it felt like the same exact thing as the prequels and the OT and the clone wars and the bad batch and rebels except just worse. it felt like it was riding off the success of Rogue 1

[pastel shard]

andor was easily my favorite new TV show to come out last year

the only reason it wasn't my favorite in general was because better call saul s6 and barry s3 were also incredible

[spare monolith]

Did you watch all of it

[sly sage]

yes

i watch all of every Star Wars project multiple times lmao. that argument won't work on me

[pastel shard]

the only star wars media that I think is at the same level of quality as andor is a new hope and empire

[sly sage]

the only exception to this is rebels which im about 75% of the way through

[spare monolith]

Ahem clone wars

[pastel shard]

ranking tv shows against films is a little weird but i sure as hell think that andor is head and shoulders above any of the other star wars TV shows

[sly sage]

damn ur gon hate my teir list fr

[pastel shard]

and better than the prequels/sequels, with the exception of maybe TLJ

[sly sage]

sorry but not sorry ig

[pastel shard]

Clone wars is a handful of admittedly very good episodes, surrounded by a lot of bad ones, especially in the first 2-3 seasons

[spare monolith]

They weren’t bad just not as good

[pastel shard]

genuine question, please do not take offense to this this isn't meant to be rude or anything

but how old are you

[sly sage]

almost 19

[pastel shard]

because everyone i've ever met that loves episode 3 like that is a zoomer who grew up watching it and is very nostalgic for the prequels

ep3 is far and away the best of the prequels, but its still not what i would really call a very good film besides a handful of scenes

[sly sage]

agree to disagree ig

[spare monolith]

Yeah a lot of people like it because it’s the most action packed I think

[pastel shard]

it still suffers from most of the same writing issues that 1 and 2 have

[sly sage]

i love the politics and the birth/creation of the greatest villain in film history. the cool ass lightsaber fights is just a bonus W

[pastel shard]

i didn't put the shows in because ranking films against television is a bit weird

but if i made a star wars show tier list it would be andor in S and everything else in like B-C lmao

[sly sage]

revenge of the sith being lower than the last jedi really hurts but each to their own

[spare monolith]

I will never understand people that like the last Jedi

[sly sage]

me neither. its a spit in the face of the entire franchise. it tries to be unique and just ends up being insulting

where as Rise Of Skywalker is just laughably bad. The Last Jedi is insultingly bad

[pastel shard]

I enjoy it because i think luke's character arc in the film is absolutely beautifully done

[sly sage]

its a "fine" standalone film. its an absolutely abysmal Star Wars film.

[spare monolith]

Even if you ignore Luke in this movie a lot of it doesn’t make sense

[sly sage]

i can understand not liking The Phantom Menace and Attack Of The Clones but putting them in the worst teir then willingly saying The Last Jedi is amongst the best is just downright confusing

its like saying you hate chocolate ice cream and mint ice cream but mint chocolate is phenominal. just makes absolutely 0 sense

The Last Jedi is easily one of the worst films ive watched from the last decade and ive seen a whole ton of bad films, that may just be because of how big a star wars fan i am so it hurts more but either way its just a terrible movie

[pastel shard]

There's a lot of things I really like about TLJ, like the fact that it's probably the best looking star wars film, the cinematography and use of color is just wonderful, or the fantastic performances from adam driver and daisy ridley and mark hamill, but my favorite part is that every single character has a full, complete, satisfying arc in the film. Particularly luke's character arc in TLJ is one of my favorite things in any star wars film, its genuinely beautiful character writing IMO

brb i'll copypaste my full thing i wrote the last time i talked with someone about it lmao

wall of text incoming

[spare monolith]

I agree the acting and cinematography was amazing

[pastel shard]

the main thing that stands out to me is the culmination of luke's character arc. dave filoni has summed it up really well so i'll quote him.

“I think Luke understands that it’s not about what he wants. It’s not about what he gains. It’s frankly about what everybody else gained. Sometimes, you have to be the one that carries that burden and becomes that vessel. These aren’t characters that go and get married. They don’t get over the scar. Frodo carries the ring to Mount Doom and for the rest of his life is plagued with fear. On certain days, he remembers those pains. Because he has to carry that burden. And Frodo has no peace until he leaves that world. Luke is that character.”

We see this with luke, in the flashback. he's grown and moved on, but he still has that trauma, which is why in a moment of weakness he pulls out his lightsaber, just like he did against his father. out of that shame he isolates himself, and its not until rey and yoda help him overcome that that he's able to see what actually has to be done.

The death of luke skywalker is genuinely one of the most beautiful scenes in any star wars films. He's overcome his fears and his depression, to look back on his past mistakes (kylo) and face them head on. it mirrors the original scene of him looking forward in ANH at the twin suns, and the future that staying on tattooine entails, but now he's looking back, over the mountaintop and the ocean view of the rising sun instead. Its here that he makes a sacrifice to save the ones he loves instead of fighting kylo out of hate. in doing this he also is what sparks the rebellion again, the image of him is what gives hope, not out of him destroying anything but of him saving them.

[spare monolith]

It’s definitely the best looking film

[sly sage]

its the best looking star wars film because its in the most recent trilogy the first was made in the 70s and 80s and the prequels was made in the 90s and 00s. its like saying someone has the best ass because they have the fattest ass but they only have that because they're 400 kg and obese

not to mention Rogue 1 is a far better looking film in my opinion

[spare monolith]

Last Jedi looks better than force awakens and rise of skywalker though

[pastel shard]

some of my favorite looking films of all time are from the 70's lmao

i'm not talking about the VFX

i'm talking about the framing and composition, and how rian johnson uses camera movement to enhance the visual storytelling of the film

[sly sage]

yeah but looks worse than Rogue 1 and every single star wars show. the only reason it looks better than the OT and Prequels is because its 40 and 15 years older than them

[pastel shard]

one of my favorite shots in the film is an homage to a film from 1927 lmao

https://youtu.be/AO2KhMLJxq0 the scene in the casino that recreates this

[sly sage]

it has literally 1 good shot in the entire film and thats the holdo manoeuvre but in the world of star wars it makes 0 fucking sense, we've been told time and time again shit like that is stupid and can't be done but the last jedi just goes "lmao fuck your lore ima do what i want"

[spare monolith]

Yeah what a dumb scene

Looked great tho

[sly sage]

literally the only good shot in the entire film and from a story and universe point of view it makes 0 fucking sense and shouldnt work

its just phenominal how ryan can make such brilliant filmwork with breaking bad episodes and knives out but he shit the bed so hard with this film in the eyes of most of the fanbase

[spare monolith]

You know he said his goal was to make it controversial

This is literally what he wanted

That bastard

[sly sage]

like i understand my teir list isnt great its my own opinion but at least its obvious what links the things i like 'Revenge Of The Sith', 'The Mandalorian' and 'The Book Of Boba Fett' all have several things in common such as the darker tones but saying prequels is all dogshit but then saying The Last Jedi is top 4 is just straight up confusing

but again each to their own

you're allowed your opinion and im not gonna hate u for it cause that'd be dumb lmao

[sly sage]

there is a rumour his trilogy has been cancelled (thank fuck) and we just got confirmation of a film being directed by dave filoni

[spare monolith]

Yessir I saw the three film announcements

[sly sage]

Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni are the best things to happen to star wars since its creation thank god lucas film is recognising that

[pastel shard]

buddy i feel like i'm just talking at you and you're not actually reading any of what i'm saying but whatever man, you do you

its very clear we both value different things

[sly sage]

to be fair i send like 3 sentences at a time. u sent me a short story ofc im not gonna read it all

kings

[spare monolith]

Also can’t wait for the other movie about the origins of the Jedi

Hoping that’ll be good

[sly sage]

yeah the acolyte was also teased with a trailer thats during the high republic so im not too excited about it but i still hope im proven wrong and it ends up being good

bs we dont get to see the trailer tho

[spare monolith]

It doesn’t come out till next year so I think that’s why

[sly sage]

yeah have u seen the dial of destiny trailer

[spare monolith]

Nah I don’t care tbh

[sly sage]

i was so scared it was going to be another modern destruction saying "actually he was a bad guy smh" but it looks so good

it looks like an actual indiana jones film made by someone who cares about the franchise

[spare monolith]

That would be nice

[sly sage]

fair enough

also the music is so good jesus christ the trailer music was phenominal

[spare monolith]

If I hear it’s actually good maybe I’ll check it out

[sly sage]

ima rewatch the indiana jones films before it releases

it releases like a month after my birthday or something i think

[spare monolith]

Nice

I just don’t have a lot of faith after the last movie 💀

[sly sage]

kingdom of the crystal skull?

[spare monolith]

Ya lol

[fair linden]

Mando season 3 is a 6.5/10 so far i think
or a 7

[sly sage]

i'd give it an 8.5 or 9

season 3 9
season 2 9
season 1 10

[odd phoenix]

its at a 7/10 rn for me but the final two episodes could bring it up to an 8

[jaunty horizon]

i don't know dude

mando fell off

[storm garden]

Only way Mando would fall off is if the main character vanished completely.

So long as he's involved, its all good.

I dont care who he interacts with, or what the mission ends up being.

Unless its his clan, Bo-Katan or Grogu.

[runic charm]

I completely agree, its a downright spit in the face when it comes to Starwars films and their fans. I heavily disagree with the spot on that tier list.

and Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones at the complete bottom is also a shocker to me

Also just saw the latest Mando episode. I heard about Lizzo's appearance before i saw it and was absolutely mortified and scared that this episode was going to be ass. The episode was pretty decent, enjoyed seeing the Seperatist droids again. Really excited to see how the next few episodes tie this season to an end.

[fair linden]

In what universe is any sequel trilogy film worse than the first two prequels lol
Both of those are like in my worst 15 all time
Though TLJ isnt my favourite of the sequels at all

[sly sage]

the only sequel film i would ever understand being above the prequels is The Force Awakens

both The Last Jedi and The Rise Of Skywalker are absolute dogshit

i'd take the Phantom Menace over either of them any day of the week

[storm garden]

I like some of the arguments Luke raises about the Jedi being morons. He wasnt wrong.

[sly sage]

most of the most awful characters in star wars come from the sequels notably Rey, Holdo, and Rose 1 is dumb af with her abilities, 1 is annoying and the other is straight up completely pointless

what was the point in rose in TLJ other than to give finn a love interest? what argument can u make for her?

[storm garden]

Plus they scrapped her in Rise.

Whole sequel trilogy's messed up.

[sly sage]

barely deserves a place in legends let alone canon

[storm garden]

And yet, we're stuck with it.

But the franchise survives and moves along.

[runic charm]

Sequels would've been so much better if Finn was the protagonist and was the one to become a jedi. Would've been a cooler story imo

[fallow ridge]

I wonder why they have not given name for the Mandalorian movie yet, but only for the other two upcoming Star Wars movies.

Unless it's just gonna be "The Mandalorian" which is dissapointing.

[sly sage]

Would have been more interesting too. Also don't destroy luke would have been nice

[sly sage]

Its not a mandalorian movie is it? Its just a film made by filoni set at the same time as 'The Mandalorian'

Im excited for it. Filoni the best thing to happen to star wars since george lucas created it, glad he's finally getting his own film to direct

[storm garden]

Filoni is the geek the franchise needs.

And the one it deserves.

[prisma hollow]

have you read the original Episode 9 script by any chance

i remember reading it and thought it was decent. Definitely better than what we got

[low turret]

Trevorrow’s episode 9 was sick

Mostly

[willow ferry]

Made me sick

Filoni making an ultimate movie with all the shows combine is just… no.

[willow ferry]

If not I’d love to see him stand up and leave from the Resistance because he is seeing his own friends getting murdered by maniacs who cheer at the death of billions. The film could teach about how you shouldn’t treat people on assumptions of who they are with. They honestly wasted him….

[odd phoenix]

please for the love of god let this next episode start tying things together

[sly sage]

? he's not, he's making a film set in the same time period as the shows he's made i.e 'The Mandalorian', 'The Book Of Boba Fett', 'Ahsoka'. its not a combination of the shows

[boreal tartan]

Didnt he say its a culmination

So I think mando will be in it

[odd phoenix]

yeah mando will definitely be in it

[granite rapids]

That filoni directed movie looks like a avengers sort of movie with everyone involved from rebels to boba fett to mando and new republic against Thrawn

[storm garden]

I'd buy that for a dollar.

[granite rapids]

Same

[storm garden]

By which i mean i'd be onboard, if that wasnt clear.

Robocop quote and whatnot.

[willow ferry]

He said culmination so I assume it's all Marvel esque

I guess it will be Heir to the Empire with that rag tag team...

I just wish Boba was just a bounty hunter and able to betray anyone for some republic credits. The show is just meh

[storm garden]

That got him eaten. Can you blame him for wanting a change of profession?

[odd phoenix]

lol i know

[willow ferry]

Even Temura disagrees...

https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/12/09/temuera-morrison-laments-boba-fetts-depiction-in-disney-series-i-think-its-time-to-get-him-back-to-his-badass-ways/

[sly sage]

don't understand that complaint, bro came face to face with death day after day from the second he entered the sarlacc pit then he lived with a nomadic and close nit culture of people. he evolved past bounty hunting

its not like he 1 day just up and went "nah im not a bounty hunter anymore lul"

[willow ferry]

You have a profession since childhood to be one way. I can understand the whole Daimyo arch

[storm garden]

I'm thinking he should do adventuring more than bounty hunting, or being a Daimyo. We already know he aint wanting to sell his services to credits anymore.

[willow ferry]

But the benevolence from the Tuskens is bizarre. I like the aspect that they are just people but knowing what Boba did in the Star Wars comics he wouldn't be that ignorant to the sand people.

I just want him dead

[storm garden]

You want Boba dead?

[sly sage]

thank god the star was universe isnt based on what you want then

[willow ferry]

Yea I'm done with all this

It isn't what George wants

[sly sage]

george sold star wars

[storm garden]

George doesent have a say no more.

[willow ferry]

Yea and they disregarded his story treatments

Look where that brought Disney

[storm garden]

Not so bad.

Not perfect, but not so bad.

[sly sage]

if it was based on what a single person wants then i want the sequels out of canon and for luke to die being luke. not a creepy hermit thats nothing like his original character but unfortunately we don't always get our own way

[willow ferry]

They can make anything work. They have money. I just find anything that Filoni or Faverau touch to really lack anything interesting besides three episodes a show

[sly sage]

? ok

[storm garden]

Clone wars and mandalorian are the shiz.

[willow ferry]

Clone Wars was ok. Never finished it

[storm garden]

Ah well...

[willow ferry]

Heard about the Clone origins plot and that was weird

[sly sage]

arguably 2 of the best pieces of star wars since disney are BECAUSE OF filoni

[sly sage]

explains a lot

[willow ferry]

and Season 3 is declining in viewership why?

[storm garden]

Dunno, dont care, not over yet.

[willow ferry]

Filoni's clone wars had Lucas to his side

So many projects are dead

[sly sage]

fr. people so quick to complain, season 3 not even finished. plus im loving it

[storm garden]

So am I, even if its a little bit goofy.

[sly sage]

all your arguments are based on complete personal opinion and "this isnt what george would have wanted"

[willow ferry]

It's not even complaining if viewership is lower than the last season.

Not even. I'm simply tired of the whole proposing 15 movies ahead of time then canceling every one but two

[storm garden]

Last season had a Luke hallway fight, how are they gonna top that?

Of course there's less people.

Doesent make the show bad in my opinion.

[willow ferry]

Why did Grogu go back to Mando again?

[storm garden]

Luke gave Grogu a choice.

[willow ferry]

Oh right

[storm garden]

He chose his Mandalorian daddy.

[odd phoenix]

wouldnt we all

[willow ferry]

That little guy was the greatest piece of merch

In the Disney era

[storm garden]

Thank god the little spud came along or we'd be stuck with porgs.

[willow ferry]

Maybe even Babu Frek

[sly sage]

and what ever the fuck this is

[storm garden]

Babu Frek

[willow ferry]

HE-HEEYYYYY

[sly sage]

babu frek-ing hell he's fucking ugly

[storm garden]

Most star wars aliens are.

[willow ferry]

That guy surviving in Rise of Skywalker

was the silliest thing I've witnessed in a while. I want to see James Mangold's Star Wars origin story

[mossy pumice]

Goddamn! The ending!!!😯

[solid sleet]

Who cares if Mandalorians take their homeland planet back? It's a complete wasteland and they are small group

Just leave them because be

The council is just petty

[granite rapids]

Have you already watched the latest episode?

[solid sleet]

10 min in

[granite rapids]

Oh.. then you will know later

[solid sleet]

But like they never mention it in first converstion

[granite rapids]

True.. there's more to this

[solid sleet]

What is with Mandalorians and kaiju

That's the 4th giant monster this season

Hey those guys finally showed again

[light birch]

how could they crew a light cruiser with like a 10 person crew

[storm garden]

So they're calling..."it"...Project Necromancer. I like the name.

[low turret]

Good ep

[sly sage]

u will find out why later

also holy shti

phenominal episode

season best episode after the seasons worst lmao

also the end credits had a more mysterious and darker version of the theme and i love it

6.4 to a 9.1 lol

not to say i told you so but to everyone crying about the season... i told you so

good things come to those with patience and belief in filoni and favreau

[storm garden]

||RIP Paz Viszla. Went down like a true Mandalorian Boss. ||

[sly sage]

what a legend fr

also god i love Moff Gideon and Giancarlo Esposito

[storm garden]

Good villain. Too bad you cant blow the skin off his face twice.

[sly sage]

is that a breaking bad reference lol

[storm garden]

it was.

[sly sage]

yo what if the armourer set them up?

[willow ferry]

I see the rating.

Time to see what detractors have to say.

[sly sage]

The number of reviews has now almost doubled and it's still at a 9.1 so the haters can't blame it on the number of people reviewing either. Garantee by the time it hits 10k it'll be a 9.0 or higher still

[storm garden]

Why would the armorer sell off her covert and save the survivors?

She would rather die than betray her covert. This is the Way.

[mossy pumice]

Its the same orchestral ensemble of the main theme which is used back in E7 of S1, made by Ludwig Görannsson himself.

It's more of a somber take on the main theme.

[mossy pumice]

https://music.apple.com/in/album/the-mandalorian-orchestral-version/1491415764?i=1491415774&ls

[pastel shard]

https://twitter.com/fellawhomstdve/status/1646277556851601408

guy online (@fellawhomstdve)

it is jaw-dropping how frequently Jon Favreau leans on "and then a giant monster suddenly appeared"

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its crazy how often this is a plot device, especially this season lmao

[prisma hollow]

technically the Santa fight scene in Elf follows this same principle

[pastel shard]

https://tenor.com/view/elf-bye-buddy-christmas-gif-10601643

favreaus most terrifying monster

[sly sage]

Idk but there has always been something off about her and idk if u noticed but her helmet and moff gideons new helmet are VERY similar

[storm garden]

Coincidence. Imo. We'll see.

[sly sage]

now over 5,000 reviews and still at a 9.1, 'The Mandalorian' is back babyyyyyy

[storm garden]

He never right.

[sly sage]

?

[storm garden]

I mean left. He never left.

My bad.

[sly sage]

ah lmao

[mossy pumice]

Thank goodness, I thought i might be the only one who is thinking this lmao

[past stone]

When the giant monster came out of the ground i thought the mythosaur decided to leave that pond

No clue why that added it in other than for the spectacle

[sly sage]

yeah that did confuse me, they where headed to the great forge anyway why the need for the monster

[storm garden]

To debunk the legend that the Mythosaur is a myth to the Mandalorians.

Now the Mandalorians know the Mythosaur is real.

[low turret]

That wasn’t the mythosaur that attacked them tho was it

[solid sleet]

^^

[storm garden]

You're right, my bad.

They pulled an Ankylosaurus out of Mandalore's butt.

[pastel shard]

Giant monsters showing up randomly are just a thing this season

[mossy pumice]

I have a feeling they want to make a monster movie

Is it possible Bo-Katan will get help of Mythosaur😶?

[mossy pumice]

Yep, just like how it's been in most of part 2 episodes of Rebels lmao! Like in the last season with Purgills

Correction, giant creatures then

[runic charm]

Bro this episode was so fucking awesome. I was geeking the fuck out when i saw Moff Gideon in his new armor and those guards that|| killed Paz Visla|| were so cool too. That final scene with Paz Visla was so awesome too i genuinely loved this episode. This episode completely revived this season from being decent to being awesome.

I can not wait for this next episode

and the theme that started playing when those guards showed up was breathtaking

[storm garden]

Praetorian Guard is no joke.

However, if all the Mandos were there, the guards would have been swamped.

[runic charm]

oh for sure

[mossy pumice]

Yep fr , it's quite amazing to see how Ezra alone got to handle them in Rebels final ep, but then again, he's really strong with the Force.

[storm garden]

||Its Jon friggin Favreau, his voice actor.||

[mossy pumice]

Uh huh, interesting 🤔

[balmy night]

Wait, Jack Black, Lizzo, and Christopher Lloyd isn't Meller? (hehehe)

[tawdry swallow]

who we thinkin the other spy is

[storm garden]

What do you mean by spy?

Pretty sure the Remnant have been on Mandalore long before the Mandalorians found that hidden base.

[granite rapids]

Well many are saying the armorer is the spy

[storm garden]

Guess we'll know tomorrow, huh.

[balmy night]

In 36 hours and 22min

[balmy night]

She does seem sus, with how she treated Bo-Kayan all the sudden

I need to see her ride a mythosaur lol

[odd phoenix]

welp

here we are boys

the final stretch

[balmy night]

ONLY 9.5 hours

[indigo kettle]

God it’s shit

[mossy pumice]

Lmao!😂

The ending ain't what i expected at all

Its got resolved..... Too soon

And i expected kind of cameos of aftermath, perhaps tease of Thrawn appearance by Lars Mikkelsen😶(ik crazy)

And i guess we can cross off Armorer as not the spy lol

And seriously ||Din besting 3 fucking Praetorian Guards?! I'm sorry ik he's a very skilled fighter when he needs to be & quite clever in combat tactics and stealth but come on||

Ofc he had ||Grogus help, like just throwing them around with the force lmao||

[ancient hollow]

new episode was gud

kinda

50 percent

||what was that goofy looney tunes ending circle closing on grogu||

[mossy pumice]

That's what lmao

[sly sage]

what a phenominal episode. easily the best episode of the season

[sly sage]

mfs will hate for any reason

[indigo kettle]

Bold assumption when I haven’t said anything

[sly sage]

seems people are starting to disagree anyway

[sly sage]

i replied to a message of you saying "god it's shit"

[indigo kettle]

Of course because it’s one of the better episodes of the season

Which isn’t saying much

A pile of shit looks better next to an uncontrollable amount

[sly sage]

people like you will do or say anything to try and be right. face it people enjoyed most of the season

[indigo kettle]

Face it based on what

The general negative discourse

The only people I’ve seen like it are Star Wars fans who will eat up anything they put out

[sly sage]

the average rating for the season right now is 7.9 but ok lmao

[indigo kettle]

You’re just looking at IMDB

Anyone who takes time to go to IMDB and rate it clearly likes it and cares

[sly sage]

i literally despise the sequels and thought Andor was incredibly mid what tf are u talking about 💀

[indigo kettle]

Look no further than the web inside your phone

[sly sage]

yeah of course they do

stop making up bullshit

[indigo kettle]

Disliked the things with an actual plot

Makes sense

15,000 people out of the millions that watch it

That’s a great consensus

[mossy pumice]

Yeah although the resolution felt too quick.

But i just rewatched it now(especially the combat scenes) goddamn it's one of the best now I've seen since finale of Season 1(that was just lit combat scenes I've seen there). Rick Famuyiwa is quite a solid director.

Especially Din combat scenes here though, he's improved quite a lot & he always rises upto ocassion in situations where he's boxed in. Especially at the shield scene.

He's basically like Wick Djarin lol!🙌🏻🔥

[indigo kettle]

And nobody lies on the internet right

Nobody would bot or anything right

Everything is as it seems

[sly sage]

yeah believe it or not in general surveys don't reach every person its called a sample size lmfao

[indigo kettle]

That’s right

[sly sage]

yeah i do agree, it felt a bit too quick but i enjoyed it and it sets up season 4 nicely, im hopinh season 4 will go back to the roots of just basic space western bounty hunting

[sly sage]

you're desperate to find an argument with these strawmans and "what if" scenarios. you disliked the episode fine. but most have liked it

[mossy pumice]

That's what it seems like, with Din agreeing to help New Republic as an unofficial cleaning guy, a sweeper when he said he'll take on a case-to-case basis now that seems interesting.

[indigo kettle]

What is this ‘most’?

I’m not even strawmanning

I’m saying we can’t say for sure

Some people hate it, some people like it

Shock

[sly sage]

you're making up or just blatently saying excuses to discredit someone elses argument

[indigo kettle]

Making up excuses?

One score on one site isn’t reflective of everyone’s opinions

[sly sage]

"b...b...but what about the bots??? u didnt think of the bots"

[tawdry swallow]

ahsoka uo next woooooooo

[sly sage]

shut up bruh

[indigo kettle]

Which do exist, yes

[sly sage]

so excited

[indigo kettle]

Don’t get salty now

Anyway

Really sad to see such a fall off

Season 1 and 2 were amazing

[sly sage]

says the one literally arguing tooth and nail that its awful and most people think its shit

mf trying to talk about salty

[indigo kettle]

Well I’m not arguing that it’s awful

[indigo kettle]

I’m telling you that’s what I think of it

[ancient hollow]

guys why

[sly sage]

"my god it's shit"

[ancient hollow]

dont do this

[indigo kettle]

I don’t remember saying that to you

Or mentioning that in our conversation

[mossy pumice]

Yep, let's get back to about upcoming Ahsoka, woooooooo

[indigo kettle]

The whole season is just severely futile

[tawdry swallow]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[indigo kettle]

And not even fun

Hyping up the taking back of Mandalore

[ancient hollow]

personally i liked it but you do you

[indigo kettle]

And then the big rebellion ‘fight’ is just them flying at some troops

[sly sage]

ok bro 💀 literally the first thing u said in this channel after the episode came out. season was great with in my opinion only 1 bad episode and 1 meh episode. others where good, fantastic or better

[indigo kettle]

Moff Gideon final fight lasting 2 minutes

And it being a really slow weak fight

Just real rushed and poor

[sly sage]

im very excited to see live action thrawn

i'm re-reading the new canon thrawn books (and some of the ones i havent read) and going to finally finish off rebels

[indigo kettle]

You can really feel Pedro’s absence too

Shame

[tawdry swallow]

mf didn’t take his helmet off ONCE 😭

I-

[sly sage]

tbf his entire religion is not taking his helmet off

[mossy pumice]

So am i! Looks like Filoni wants to take certain cues and elements from Thrawn Trilogy which seems pretty apparent in some respects if the theory i have about what ||Ezra & Thrawn would've been possibly upto when sort of stranded in hyperspace with Purgills||

Btw the ones i kept in spoilers are about Rebels show so if you haven't seen, don't look at it.

[sly sage]

so at least they have an excuse

the previous 2 seasons had him take his helmet off only once in the 1st and twice in the 2nd and thats it

[mossy pumice]

I mean, he just redeemed himself and got exception by bathing in Water of Mandalore(whatever the right name is) for that sole reason. So i don't think he'll jeopardize that again.

[sly sage]

and the entire beginning of the season was about him trying to find redemption in his religion for taking off the helmet

[tawdry swallow]

touché

[sly sage]

should probably have put the disclaimer at the beginning since i read it after i opened the spoilers but its okay, i know a lot of what happened anyway

[mossy pumice]

I'm so sorry again!😭 I think this is the 2nd time i might have did this on accident 🥲

[tawdry swallow]

speaking of Filoni

did y’all see him

[sly sage]

nah its all good

what about him

i really do hope jon favreau isnt leaving lucasfilm. him and filoni are the best thing to happen to it since george lucas created it

also is it just me or does ahsokas skin clearly look like face paint in this poster? idk why but every time i seen her in live action so far i think she looked good but this poster kind of just looks like a cosplay attempt to me

[mossy pumice]

Its just the colour grade here is quite weirdly done that's it. But that's the thing with most posters so I'm not surprised.

[sly sage]

sabine looks great tho.

actor hot af also

[tawdry swallow]

would smash

[past stone]

Honestly didnt like it as much as i thought i would

I still enjoyed it but it just isnt as good as s1 or s2

[solid sleet]

This would be decent ending to the show really

[past stone]

still not the biggest fan of them defiling IG11's corpse to make a mech that gets destroyed

i guess the ending with him becoming the marshal is fine?

[granite rapids]

Loved this season finale, great action scenes.. Din and Grogu relationship is now official as well, there are some questions though like who's the spy??

Season 3 overall was quite good, some episodes were much better than others but I enjoyed it a lot

[past stone]

imply the existence of spies
does not elaborate
ends the season

i think the episode title was just referring to gideon having eyes on the republic?

also

did i miss a post credits scene or did they just entirely dismiss the mythosaur

[sly sage]

the spy is the woman at the new republic and the other imperials around the galaxy

i thought that was made very obvious

the episode named "the spies" opens with ... the spies

we gathered she was probably a spy the second she tortured and from the looks of it killed the doctor and when she tried to stop nevaro from being helped then the opening of the episode "the spies" started with her talking to gideon and giving him information

[past stone]

i think it's pretty fair most people expected "the spies" to refer to more than one spy

that arent just off screen "oh yeah they exist" spies

[granite rapids]

Ya, didn't bother me that much

[storm garden]

Caine's the one who told Gideon about the whole spiel. Dunno why you guys thought there was anyone else involved.

Especially the armorer.

Good finale.

Guess these two are part of the Star Wars Avengers now.

[sharp hazel]

The finale for Mandalorian wasn't the best finale in the world but it hit all the right notes. Great action, emotional moments. It's sad that not everyone vibed with this season, I will say it had it's ups and downs, and it wasn't perfect but it was fine. I just hope people will stick around for season 4 to see that it's better than season 3. I guess I'm not as critical with things as some people are, I just enjoy things for what they are. That's my spiel.

[balmy night]

People hate Jack Black, Lizzy, Christopher Lloyd episode… but I liked it

[storm garden]

Is there going to be a fourth? Seems like the big bad is dead.

[sharp hazel]

Not until there's a body.

[final jetty]

Great finale

[fair linden]

season 4 i think is confirmed could be wrong

[storm garden]

It is, my mistake.

[stoic summit]

Solid finale..the air fight along with the music was hype af...wish it lasted longer tho

[pastel shard]

this was truly one of the seasons of television

[stoic summit]

Mythosaur fighting alongside the Mandalorians in the movie ..Disney better deliver that

[final jetty]

Yeah dude

Dope scene

[odd phoenix]

i think "the spies" was just referring to all the people gideon was talking to at the beginning

[prisma hollow]

it's amazing how this went from "event television" to "i can barely care even if i tried" in one season

at least GoT was at least kinda gradual

[frozen spruce]

Wasn’t the best season but Din adopting Grogu was mad wholesome

I weeped when the Darksaber got destroyed

WEEPED

[storm garden]

It had a good run.

[pastel shard]

its okay they'll bring it back

nothing has actual consequences in this show

i'm sure it'll get rebuilt in an episode of ahsoka

[storm garden]

I'd dispute this, but i know what happens when i do, so...fair enough.

[runic charm]

These last couple of episodes were incredible. I loved Moff Gideons return and his new armor was so damn cool. I wish the final act of the season was started a bit earlier so they had more time to resolve the conflict i felt the pacing was a little lack luster but other than that this season was so good

also that one "Andor" esque episode with the scientist was so damn long for no reason. I feel like if they shortened that bit of the episode and made it actually make progress in the plot the pacing would’ve been better

[prisma hollow]

This season is the most elaborate April Fools joke I can think of\

[fair linden]

I felt mixed on the finale

[prisma hollow]

it didn't feel super satsfying?

[fair linden]

Yeah it didnt feel incredible
Like something just felt off for me
it felt a bit rushed of an ending and was it just me or was the action a little bit awkward and stiff at times

[prisma hollow]

yeah i get that

i keep seeing people share ||the grogu 'fight' with the guards|| and it feels so phoned in

like this entire season felt like an afterthought

like Favreau got a massive payday from season 2, celebrated for a year and then remember he still has to make a show about halfway through his vacation

[runic charm]

the action was pretty awkward at times i agree and yeah Din against 3 praetorian guards was kind of weird fight with them just getting flailed around

by Grogu

[mossy pumice]

I mean if it wasn't for Grogu, he would've met same fate like Paz. And they're putting up quite a good fight if it wasn't for Grogu who helped a bit.

But the fight before, i think the action there is quite good with Dins combat sequences at the shield scene.

[balmy night]

Favreau had to take new directions because KK messed things up by forcing him to take Grogu back from Luke

At least, that's what the rumor mill said

[prisma hollow]

checks out

would certainly explain a few things

like ||the Mythosaur getting introduced and goin nowhere||

idk that might just be me

[balmy night]

Season 3 is a bit of a patch, but we'll see

1 and 2 was great, 2.5 is not bad (except the aforementioned thing with Luke, and the time that was devoted to that which messed with the structure of Book of Boba Fett, making it mid), 3 is serviceable, but felt more a setup of things to come than any other (full) seasons before it

[balmy night]

It better be resolved early in season 4... coming 2024 I guess...

[balmy night]

It's not just you... losing Gina Carano already messed with things, and then they messed with Grogu becoming more Jedi before coming back to Din... but I can't say no good came from that... we got Intergalactic Detective Carson Teva, played by Paul (the father of Kim's Convinience), and that's great.

[storm garden]

It wasnt the best season, but it was still very entertaining, imo.

Best season was 2, and it would have been muy difficult to top it, imo.

[indigo kettle]

https://twitter.com/anihuggingpadme/status/1649048826815328257

vye / elle (@anihuggingpadme)

the best part about the mandalorian is whenever grogu force-jumps and it’s so obvious that they just threw the whole puppet in the air and hit record

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[prisma hollow]

LOL

[pastel shard]

https://twitter.com/fellawhomstdve/status/1649207338186752001

guy online (@fellawhomstdve)

Nevarro appears in 10 episodes. Aldahni appears in 3. Tell me a single meaningful thing about Nevarro besides “Carl Weathers lives there”

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[balmy night]

A whole tract of lands are owned by the Mandalorians, and Din Djarin and Din Grogu has a hut there

EZ

[wise skiff]

good season finale

iffy season but wrapped up well I think. Honestly wouldn't be annoyed if this is the last season

[stoic summit]

https://youtu.be/Uz5sOH7wGAA

[fair linden]

Season 1: 7/10
Season 2: 8.5/10
Season 3: 5.5/10
my ratings of the show

[fallow ridge]

I think the first half of the season was kind of snorefest but the last two episodes really woke me up I felt like I was watching a movie with real stakes.

Also I'm still feeling perplexed over that doctor episode, they're gonna grab that thread at another time but it's bizzare that not much progressed on that end. Time was very weirdly alotted and used between narratives.

[fair linden]

I felt like there was something off writing wise this season. Some small things that just made no sense, some dialogue felt a bit off and odd story decisions at times. There was something there in the finale but i kinda felt detached for the whole episode. Idk, they tried for an epic finale but it felt kinda weak.

||However Grogu being adopted was a sweet moment even though Grogu wasn’t originally going to be here. I do also like the thread of Din Djarin working for the New Republic and the ending shot with him living with Grogu was nice and sweet too. But it doesn’t save the fact that, for me, the season overall was kinda mid and stumbled a lot, even the finale action felt like super stiff and awkward and that didn’t help things. However, it is saved from pure mediocrity by its conclusion being nice.||

[balmy night]

Using spoiler tags in a spoiler thread is based

[mossy pumice]

And also get Ludwig Görannsson back for the 4th season. Its so evident how much of a filler Joseph Shirley has made for Mando music unless he uses Ludwigs theme which are so... Ehh.

I love how he said in interviews he wanted to involve more strings and ensemble here with orchestral writing but the thing is he obviously doesn't know how to write for strings and orchestra. The thing is, which is most probable, he used a lot of string vsts and orchestral vsts.

He might have slapped in two or three patches of those and wrote a really underwhelming melody and called it a day. What he didn't do is he didn't think in the way of a strings or ensemble are usually recorded live.

He should've mixed those sections better or at least could've set different velocities for each section, cause orchestal players in general tend to invoke more variety and make few different additions when playing, like when a drummer does perhaps, cause he can't keep doing same rhythm patterns again and again.

[balmy night]

That’s the problem every composer has when they made an iconic motif tho… I mean look at DC, they are still using and crediting John Williams’ Superman Theme

[mossy pumice]

I think problem is much more inherently deeper than that. They don't even do a faithful re-imagining of motifs with their own spin.

Görannsson is extremely skilled in that regard when he used Kiners Ahsoka theme in Mandolarian S2. Its so so well done, especially in sections where he plays both Mandos theme & Ahsoka theme with recorder and a flute with such beautiful use of counterpoints, just uff!

And Görannsson is even brave enough to write a whole new fuckin motif for Luke fckin Skywalker and that too is so brilliantly written. Williams theme is more Korngold esque whereas Görannsson new theme with really amazing chromatic dissonances, it's so Shostakovich in a way.

And that's not a small feat at all.

Joseph Shirley is not someone who in a 100 years could do something as creative and bold, cause he doesn't have such inherent depth or deep understanding music theory like Görannsson has.

[balmy night]

Or experimentation with world instrument

Season 1 and 2 Mando music is full of unconventional instruments

[mossy pumice]

They're conventional instruments tbf! Just more sound synthesis with some amazing analog synths he has like from Korg & Roland. Dude has eurorack that so many dream of to buy😍🙌🏻. Whereas me I'm still awaiting my Arutria analog synth i put an order for and still waiting to recieve🥲

He definitely has that music theory knowledge to carry cause he's trained as both classical and jazz composer. And he's a multi instrumentalist himself so he places that emphasis of making everything sound as authentic as possible. Not every section sounding the same.

[balmy night]

Right, but how many orchestra had you seen a Bass Recorder in the last while? lol

It's not full "unconventional", fair, but it's not conventional either... most philharmonics just sort of leave those instruments out, since you can't hear them that well, and their parts are easily replaceable with other wind instruments in the section.... WHO makes it the LEAD instrument!? BASED AS F!

[mossy pumice]

Ohk in that sense yeah I agree! And he's also very skilled to let like each instruments sing that melody out, like first with the bass recorder, then the electric guitar then carry forwarded by the amazing fanfare of brass & strings. Just uff & followed by the brilliant rhythms and the bass recorder.

Görannsson is my absolute favourite in film composers now when it comes to percussions. His use of polyrhythms and unusual rhythm patterns (that's what having trained in jazz & having love of math rock and metal music really pays off). And also having learned African music and diaspora must have really opened up his mind when doing BP.

Just absolutely love it cause it's actually listening to real authentic music writing there in rhythms instead of the godawful percussions Zimmer plagued with his boring vst enabled Taiko drums which sounds same like sledgehammers hitting shipping containers.

What Görannsson could've done for Dune instead of the travesty that is Zimmers so called Dune ost😑🤦🏻

[balmy night]

Sigh... better than Blade Runner 2049 noise

Ramin Djawadi 's pretty good too

[mossy pumice]

They both are absolute travesty😩. And BR 2049 ain't even Zimmers work it's just Benjamin Wallfisch, not like Zimmer could do better than bwwwwaaaaahhhh or playing 2 or 3 notes and that's all he knows. And doesn't know music notation which is fine at cases but when you're an orchestral composer music notation is absolutely necessary and knowledge of music theory and i can't stress that enough.

[mossy pumice]

Yes he is!

[balmy night]

What I meant was that any recent sountrack is better than the one that is Blade Runner 2049 one... un-listenable by itself... unlike the God-Tier Vangelis of the original.

[mossy pumice]

Hmm exactly. I always wonder what late Johann Johannsson, usual collaborator of Denis would've done.

[balmy night]

Dune also a hard album to listen by itself, it only works as part of the film

[mossy pumice]

All i listened is a very generic unstructured and pretentious nonsense. And also his claims of inventing new sounds is downright laughable.

Mind-blowing the extent to which this charlatan claims inventing things that are known, were used dozillion times, and are, for e.g. the saudakar voice, simply throat-singing techniques. He is the kind of guy after skimming through a literature compendium tries to hoax you into believing he has read them all, all the great books he stutteringly summarizes.

The "highly unusual rhythmic stuff" is kunnakol. It should be a crime to look so gleeful when you steal culture and pass it off as your own. Classic culture misappropriation.

Its fine if he uses those, but what he said is he said he invented it from scratch, what a fckin mooch!

If that's what you say is listenable... Well then... Oof😶

[obtuse linden]

Jesus Christ Bo-Kotan had to save Mando twice in one episode

[storm garden]

Is this an actual joke in the series?

[solid sleet]

We wish

[storm garden]

The show didnt really need much of Pascal this season, besides the voice.

Almost sure his stunt double could have carried the physical performance.

[mossy pumice]

@thorny trellis have you heard the Bad Batch S2 ost by Kevin Kiner?!

I think most of the tracks is typical fillers he usually does. But at certain moments he does shine, like this track in particular. What a somber requiem of a piece with the brass🙌🏻

https://music.apple.com/in/album/the-sacrifice/1680604090?i=1680604937&ls

[balmy night]

I read Kevin Costner for some reason

[grand pier]

Yeah overall the season wasn’t good. The best episode was the second to last. The finale was alright, but not great.

[balmy night]

I agree that it's not AS good, but it's not THAT BAD either... and come on, Jack Black, Lizzo, and Christopher Lloyd cameo episode is exactly the sort of mid-season camp that we wanted from some shows, but don't get.

[willow ferry]

Wait so they never take it back?

[indigo kettle]

They do they do

Just real underwhelming way

[willow ferry]

:/

At this point not surprised