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grave pelican
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find where the zeroes are

sullen coyote
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ye its 3 and -1

grave pelican
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like 4 of them have the same zeroes

rose ermine
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yuh

grave pelican
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the next step is to see the multiplicty of the zeroes

sullen coyote
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english

grave pelican
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actually, you should look at the leading coefficient first and degree

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what is the degree and sign of the leading coefficient?

sullen coyote
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like -2^3

rose ermine
grave pelican
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-2^3 is -8

uncut obsidian
grave pelican
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-2 is the leading coefficient

sullen coyote
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degree is odd sign negative

grave pelican
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but why is -2 being cubed

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degree is not odd

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look at all the exponents of the factors and add them up

sullen coyote
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ye its 3

grave pelican
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actually, you don't even need to worry about multiplicity of roots

grave pelican
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(x-3)^3 and (x+1)^1

rose ermine
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implied ^1 btw

grave pelican
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maybe you thought no exponent meant 0?

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but it means it is raised to the first power

sullen coyote
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yea

grave pelican
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so even degree, negative leading coefficient, with zeroes at x=3 and -1

sullen coyote
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ok so its -2^4?

grave pelican
sullen coyote
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its B or C

grave pelican
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does C look like it has x=3 as a zero?

sullen coyote
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i guess not

grave pelican
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both the zeroes are negative for C right?

sullen coyote
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yea

uncut obsidian
# sullen coyote ok so its -2^4?

(dont consider the leading coefficient to be raised to the power of [degree], since technically they are both their own things that control their own stuff)

grave pelican
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the leading coeffieicient is not being raised to the degree of the polynomial

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if the -2 was inside the parathesis in like (-2x+4)^4

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then the leading coefficient would be (-2)^4

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but that's not the case here

sullen coyote
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so its B

grave pelican
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so how many of that factor can you divide out while still having a polynomial

grave pelican
sullen coyote
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thank you daddy

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i understand now

grave pelican
uncut obsidian
sullen coyote
uncut obsidian
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not for this specific problem

grave pelican
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in this example, you didn't have to worry about multiplicity bc there the leading coeff, degree and zeroes were enough

uncut obsidian
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but based on the format im guessing its a necessary skill for you

sullen coyote
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alr

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thanks gentlemen

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oh shit the post didnt delete

grave pelican
sullen coyote
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i just lost aura

grave pelican
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here is an example of where you would need to use multiplicity

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the first equation with -2(x-3)^3(x+1), which was in the original example, can you tell if that is the blue or red graph?

sullen coyote
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prolly red

grave pelican
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no

sullen coyote
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i guessed

grave pelican
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(x-3) is cubed, so at x=3 the multiplicty should be 3

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which means if you zoom in at x=3, it'll look like a cubic

sullen coyote
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fuck is a cubic

grave pelican
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it flattens out before continuing the current direction

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by direction, i mean increasing or decreasing

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technically, it's the sign of the slope

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the red one, when it passes x=3, you see how it looks like a straight line?

sullen coyote
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yea

grave pelican
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that means the multiplicyt is just 1, since lines have a degree of 1

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so you'd expect (x-3) to be raised to power of 1

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for the red graph

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if at x=a, the graph passes through it like a line, the multiplicity is 1, so it's just (x-a)

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if it passes like a parabola, then multiplicity is 2, so it'd be (x-a)^2

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if it passes like a cubic, it'd have multiplicity 3, so it'd be (x-a)^3

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usually, multiplicites will only be 1, 2, or 3. They won't give you a mult. of 4, because it''s very hard to tell the difference between a multiplicity of 4 vs a mult of 2

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since both will appear to "bounce" off the x-axis

sullen coyote
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yo ur smart

grave pelican
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well, i am in 12th grade

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but math is my best subject

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algebra and calculus

sullen coyote
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thank you uncle

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i will be closing this now

grave pelican
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alright, good night

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well it's night for me

uncut obsidian