#Pnc

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lapis jetty
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hi

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aa gya

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@waxen magnet

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idhar aa

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hum pnc me sabse pehle ye samajhne ki koshish karte hain ki hum actually kya count kar rahe hain. counting ka matlab sirf number nikalna nahi hota, balki ye decide karna hota hai ki kaunsi situations alag mani jaayengi aur kaunsi same.
yes sab basic counting hot hi bas yhi he pnc mein sab condiion kabhi restriction kabhi circular arrangement. waise tune bola basic ata ye smjha?

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kisi scene mein
jab bhi hum do outcomes ko compare karte hain, pehla sawal ye hota hai ki kya unka identity change ho raha hai ya nahi. agar identity change hoti hai, to unko alag count karna padega. agar identity same rehti hai, to unko ek hi outcome maana jaata hai.

samjh cricket ki team banani he toh tu suresh ramesh aur mukesh ko leta he toh fir woh team me agay, isme dusra kuch pucha nahi he bas tujhe team banani he 1 ko pehle le ya dusre ko team mein wo rahenge aisa nai bol sakta ki
pehle suresh ko liya phir ramesh aur mukesh
aur pehle mukesh fir ramesh toh alag case he

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abhi batting krne pehle kaun jaega usme order matter krta he

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accha sahi

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ki galat

lapis jetty
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order ko tum jagah ya position ke sense me samajh sakte ho. lekin har jagah important nahi hoti. jagah tab important hoti hai jab wo distinguishable ho, matlab ek jagah ko doosri jagah se pehchaana jaa sake., aur phir question bhi depend krta

captain and vice-captain are different positions.
So order matters.
but we are choosing only 2 roles, not permuting all players.
english ka khel

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agar positions labeled hain, jaise seat number 1 aur seat number 2, to unme baithne wale log swap karoge to outcome change ho jaata hai. isliye yaha order matter karta hai.
order matter karta hai, to hum arrangement ki baat kar rahe hote hain, aur arrangement naturally permutation ki taraf le jaata hai.

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waise hindi ha toh beech mein voice type kar rha hu

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selection me positions ka koi role nahi hota. yaha sirf ye matter karta hai kaun kaun selected hai, ye nahi ki wo kis order me likhe gaye hain.

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selection ko tum group ya team ki tarah soch sakte ho

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jaha sirf members important hote hain. aise cases me a b aur b a ek hi group represent karte hain.

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agra factorial ki baat kre

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to factorial koi formula ka part nahi hai, factorial counting ka natural result hai aisa soch sakte ho, jaise 1 row mein objects arrange krte samaj n(n-1)...

lapis jetty
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or no

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ha kuch log box bolte he

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abhi kuch formula diye honge bta

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noice

hollow hull
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If you know formulas then just practice more so that you can get the logical thinking

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That's it bro

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Nothing more to do in pnc

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Ig :)

lapis jetty
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waise brackets use krne chahiye

lapis jetty
hollow hull
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It happens but the key to it is practice bc listening from someone else on how to solve Pnc is like just spoon feeding

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Lol i interrupted in mid and the whole convo between u both broke up

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Sryy xD

lapis jetty
hollow hull
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Then I will always be there to help :)

lapis jetty
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i want you to try this

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very basic q

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intereseting i have not seen people do it like that

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go on

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uh, mix krdiya

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form what i understand you chose to make total arrangements then subtract those which have 0 in 1st place toh iss method mein,
total count krne ke liye 0 first place mein aa sakta he

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aur fir woh cases subtract kr denge jisme 0 first place mein he

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*5 last ka

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,calc (987655) - (8765*4)

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Result:

68880
lapis jetty
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ha sahi he

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case lete he 0 in last place fix, 0 not in last place aur no zero wala

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pnc bas case work he kabhi kabhi

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woh texit he

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idhar kabhi kabhi latex krne ke liye use krt he

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$test$

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firestepper

lapis jetty
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chatgpt se sikha?

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a team of $10$ players is to be chosen from $15$ players.

\begin{enumerate}
\item find the number of different teams that can be chosen if there are no restrictions.
\item the $15$ players include $3$ sisters who must not be separated. find the number of different teams that can be chosen.
\end{enumerate}

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firestepper

lapis jetty
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mein bhi kabhi kabhi image to latex krta hu ai

lapis jetty
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sister mein 3 select ho giy toh

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baki kaisekregs

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sahi

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final answer nahi he
aur ek case he waise ye bhi dhyan rakhna he ki ye cases mutually exclusive bhi hain. ek case me teeno sisters team me hain, doosre case me ek bhi nahi hai. koi overlap possible nahi.

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ha

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thik he

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Tester

lapis jetty
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ok

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maan le AAB ka permutation normally n! se krega toh, 3! leki cases kya banenge
ek A1 aur dusra A2 manle
fir
A1A2B
A2A1B
index hata de dono same he is type ke permutation ka overcount hota he

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toh isiliye jitne identical he har type ke usse dividie krte

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example: MISSISSIPPI

total = 11
I = 4, S = 4, P = 2

$$
\frac{11!}{4!4!2!}
$$

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firestepper

lapis jetty
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in how many ways can the letters of the word
Statistics

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ye bhi easy wale hein

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pehle sab identical wale dhundkar fir restricition apply krni pdegi

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ye sab letters sab alag alag hote, koi repeat nahi hota, tab total arrangements kya hoti.

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ha

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ha sahi waise \ aur $$ lgna pdta he

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Tester

lapis jetty
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MISSISSIPPI ke letters se arrangements banane hain such that dono p saath me na ho

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ha sahi

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nw