#Path Questions

99 messages · Page 1 of 1 (latest)

fading spindle
#

Do you have any path questions where the starting point is the bottom left of some gridded shape and the top right is the endpoint? I want to practice these so that I don't have to spend a lot of time on them in competitions and so that I can get some of my friends to do math outside of syllabus.

silent frigateBOT
fading spindle
#

Yeah

pure thistle
#

We'll begin with that

fading spindle
dapper cloud
#

You can label each point with the number of paths to that point starting from the ones closest to the origin, and then use those labels when deciding the next labels.

#

For instance, starting from the top left and working our way down:

1 - 1 - 1 - 1
|   |   |   |
1 - 2 - 3 - 4
|   |   |   |
1 - 3 - 6 - 10
|   |   |   |
1 - 4 - 10- 20
#

(where we get the 10 on the 4th row 3rd column because we can enter this cell either from the left, where there is a 6, or from the top, where there is a 4, for instance.)

#

Notice that this is related to Pascal's triangle, in the case where we have a rectangle.

#

@fading spindle hth!

fading spindle
#

it helped me with aimo today

pure thistle
# fading spindle

Look at this cute diagram. Consider that you are only allowed to move right and up

#

is that okay?

fading spindle
#

Yeah

civic mantle
pure thistle
#

and you want to go from orange to purple

#

Consider moving right one square as "a"
and up as "b"
You'll noticed that the solution is basically the permutation of a a b b

#

is that okay so far?
@fading spindle

fading spindle
#

Yeah

pure thistle
#

Alr, can you find me the ways that you move from orange to purple?

#

only shorcuts, no backward moves

fading spindle
pure thistle
#

that's Omni's approach

fading spindle
pure thistle
#

how about a 2x3 rectangle?

fading spindle
#

idk how to use perms and combs for nonsquares but i used junction

pure thistle
#

oh, fast

pure thistle
# fading spindle

look, so here's the key.
You basically have to move 3 right move and 2 up move to reach the goal

#

right?

fading spindle
#

yeah

pure thistle
#

so what's the permutation of it

fading spindle
#

5!/(2! . 3!)

pure thistle
#

Correct

#

fading spindle
#

yay

pure thistle
#

and in fact, omni's approach still works

civic mantle
fading spindle
pure thistle
#

All right, anything else?

#

@fading spindle

fading spindle
#

How do I do paths with 3d shapes?

pure thistle
#

Still, you apply the permutation concept here

#

For example, go left = a, go up = b, go forward = c

#

and find how many left/ up/ forward are there before reaching the goal

pure thistle
# fading spindle

For example, in 3x2 grid, you need to go right three times and go up two times to reach the goal

fading spindle
#

Yeah

#

Is this correct?

pure thistle
#

YES

#

that is correct

fading spindle
#

w

pure thistle
#

Do you wanna learn more? or just call it a night

#

I can also teach you how to solve grids involving barricade(s)

fading spindle
#

I got some homework to do but I can do one more question or concept

pure thistle
fading spindle
pure thistle
fading spindle
#

Like this?

pure thistle
#

Yes

#

So you wanna go from bottom left to top right still

fading spindle
#

hmm

pure thistle
#

it's very difficult to exlcude the ways to reach the spot involving crossing that X

#

So therefore, generally speaking, we'd like to apply omni's approach here

#

and here's how you do it

civic mantle
fading spindle
#

oh u can still add it like triangular numbers

pure thistle
#

Consider that you have no ways to reach x, calling it zero

#

Pascal's triangle?

fading spindle
#

I haven't learnt binomial stuff yet so I haven't really looked at pascals triangle but i think through junction the sum of those two numbers being the top right number is a triangular number idk

pure thistle
pure thistle
#

Are you preparing for competition math?

fading spindle
#

Yeah

pure thistle
#

No wonder

#

how old are you?

fading spindle
#

the competition im preparing for is yrs 7 to 10 following the australian schooling system

#

i did it today and although i think i got the paths question right i still did pretty bad

#

i do want to get invited to the next round next year though

pure thistle
#

you did fairly well honestly

fading spindle
#

im gonna do my hw now

#

bye

pure thistle
#

cyaaa

#

Don't forget to close the channel

fading spindle
#

alr

civic mantle
#

.close

silent frigateBOT
#
Solved

Post marked as solved by @civic mantle.

Use .unsolved if this was a mistake.