#Confused on dice problem

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spice rock
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" A balanced die is tossed six times, and the number on the upper most face is recorded each
time. What is the probability that the numbers recorded are 1,2,3,4,5,and6 in any order?"

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spice rock
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I feel as i am doing something wrong because that would be a massive ass number

limpid bison
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how many do we have? 6^6
That's the total, that's what should be in the denominator

limpid bison
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Think of how many ways there are to get 1,2,3,4,5,6 in any order

spice rock
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Its only that? Oh.. then how come sometimes we do like combinations/permutations in the bottom?

limpid bison
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Not sure what you're referring to; it all depends on the specific problem

spice rock
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Oh okay

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So reading

limpid bison
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I'm sure if you practice you'll get better at identifying what kind of thing should go where

spice rock
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Theres 1 in 6 ways to get 1, 1/6 ways to get 2 etc?

limpid bison
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Not quite

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You might be thinking about it the wrong way

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Say I tossed six dies and got 1,2,3,4,5,6 but not necessarily in that order. In how many ways can I line them up?

spice rock
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Uh many wayd

limpid bison
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By lining them up, I'm ordering them

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So there's a first one, a second one, etc.

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How many can be first?

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Once you've answered that, answer how many can be second given that one is already first

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You should be able to continue the reasoning and find the correct solution

spice rock
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6 can be first

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OHH so this isnt a combination one its a probabkity one

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6•5•4•3•2•1

limpid bison
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I mean it is a permutation thing

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If you know about nPr, this is just 6P6

spice rock
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Oh. I think i need to review some things then

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OHH cause order matters

limpid bison
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nPr isn't very useful anyway, you can pretty much always think in terms of n! and nCr, which is also known as the binomial coefficient

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And in this case it's simply 6!

spice rock
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Ah okay

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I took any order has unordered shit

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So i need to practicw! Thanks

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