Hello! See picture added. I have an equation that has no real solutions. Which i need to prove by. I wrote:
The expression has no solution because a fraction is 0 only if the numerator is 0. And here the numerator is the constant -3. He said it was wrongly motivated. Can someone explain where I went wrong?
Thanks for all help!
#Help to prove equation has no solutions
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Maybe he wanted you to mention the case where the denominator is 0
Since then it's undefined and doesn't evaluate to 0
maybe! should i just rewrite it as 3b-20 = 3/0 then?
What did you to get that
You can't divide both sides by 0
And even if you did wouldn't that be a -3/0
idk im tired lol but thats what im saying its not possible
studying math for 12+ hours makes you create ur own rules hehe
I see
Though you're not allowed to use a step that's not allowed to show the equality doesn't hold
Your original justification is fine, it's just "a fraction can only evaluate to 0 if the numerator is 0" isn't good enough since that's not true if the denominator is 0
So just explain that if the denominator is 0 then the equality doesn't hold because the right hand side is undefined
And then you can say when the denominator isn't 0, if the numerator isn't equal to 0 then the fraction still won't evaluate to p
Consider 4x=0
Divide both sides by x
4=0/x
that gives us one case where x could be 0 and one case where jt isn't
So if x is not equal to 0
Then 4=0, so the equality doesn't hold
If x is equal to 0, then 4=0/0 so the equality doesn't hold either
But x=0 is the solution
i see so i just need to add when the denominator is 0 its undefined and if the denominator isnt 0 then the fraction still doesnt work
"If the denominator isn't 0 then the fraction still doesn't work" because the numerator is not 0 so it cannot evaluate to 0
You have to say allat
For the second half
But I think then it should make sense
my teacher is very strict so i think ill write all that xD
but thank you, you made my life a whole lot easier
So firstly, as has been pointed out, you can't divide by 0. That doesn't mean that there's no solution.
The analogue is saying you can't cut an apple with a spoon - that doesn't mean you can't cut the apple, but it means the spoon isn't really the right tool
The natural thing to consider is that, since this is a fraction, we want to remove that division as fast as possible - consider multiplying both sides by the denominator of the fraction to get $0(3b-20) = 3$
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It should then be pretty clear why this has no solution
We can't allow that - you're a little confused by what infinity is
It's a common misconception to have something equal infinity
What we really mean is to talk about what happens when something approaches/tends to infinity
at which point, this would be correct; but the key point as per your wording here is that this is NOT equal to 0
We're looking for strict equalities, not mere tendencies
it doesn't make sense why your teacher isn't accepting your proof
yeah. now i wrote: that if the denominator is 0 then the equality doesn't hold because the right hand side is undefined and when the denominator isnt 0, if the numerator isnt equal to 0 then the fraction still wont evaluate to p. Then i also multiplied both sides to get 0(3b-20) = 3 which then obviously tells that anything multiplied with 0 cant be 3. If he doesnt accept this answer i dont know what lol
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The part from "Then I also..." is the answer
The denominator being 0 isn't practical - there's no logic to test why that should be 0