#theory of everything

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shrewd cliff
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i figured out the concept i just need help with the math

cinder vortex
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Impossible

shrewd cliff
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why

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i figured it out

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i have a pretty comprehensive theory

cinder vortex
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Explain

shrewd cliff
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im starting to figure out the link between quantum mechanics and general relativity

cinder vortex
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Have you united gravity and quantum

shrewd cliff
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that part i havnt fully fletched out yet

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i dont have the math skills

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but essentially i think of the universe as a giant ball thats expanding at the speed of light

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and everything is happening everywhere on the ball

cinder vortex
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Do you understand general relativity

shrewd cliff
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i think for the most part yes

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it is e=mc^2

oblique furnace
shrewd cliff
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what is special relativity

oblique furnace
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.

shrewd cliff
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I dont know everything

cinder vortex
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I don’t think you understand what general relativity is about

shrewd cliff
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what is it about

cinder vortex
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Geometries and curvature of space and tensors it is only a little more complicated than special ✅

shrewd cliff
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i think my theory combines special relativity and general relativity

cinder vortex
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What is your theory

shrewd cliff
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well its a start to a theory because i dont have the math yet

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this is general relativity right

cinder vortex
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Um

shrewd cliff
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yes

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mass bends space and time

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right

oblique furnace
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It's a simplified picture of what general relativity explains mathematically, yes.

shrewd cliff
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im not as deep into the math of it so thats why its hard for you guys to get what im saying

oblique furnace
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Although "understanding" that mass bends spacetime doesn't mean you understand general relativity.

shrewd cliff
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do you konw the inverse square law

shrewd cliff
oblique furnace
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The point is it's a surface level understanding.

shrewd cliff
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the surface level understanding is the fundamentals of it

oblique furnace
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It's not though. You understand a picture that was created as a way to help people get intuition on the subject.

shrewd cliff
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then what is the fundamentals of it

oblique furnace
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If it was that easy universities would give out physics degrees to anyone that watches interstellar

shrewd cliff
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you can get the same knowledge someone has witha phd from the internet nowadays

oblique furnace
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My jab wasn't at the fact that you need a degree, it was just pointing out that understanding a picture doesn't mean you understand the thing at all.

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In any case, what you've said so far is that you think the universe is a "ball" expanding at the speed of light with "everything happening everywhere in the ball". This is very vague.
How does this constitute a theory of everything? What does it explain that modern physical model candidates for unifying theories don't?

umbral briar
# shrewd cliff

imo there are a lot of nuances you miss by oversimplifying GR into this one image

oblique furnace
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It's a full moon soon... I guess the crackpotverse is leaking

shrewd cliff
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so someone expalain what general relativity is

umbral briar
shrewd cliff
umbral briar
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what is the source of the curvature of the grid?

shrewd cliff
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gravity

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mass

umbral briar
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what else?

shrewd cliff
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the curviter is gravity the thing responsible for it is mass

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energy does not directly bend space and time

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it can

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but it also doesnt

umbral briar
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then, explain the presence of the stress-energy tensor in Einstein's field equations

shrewd cliff
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thats the math part that i dont have a great understanding of

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explain it to me

umbral briar
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that's not just math. the fact that a stress-energy tensor is present at all should cue you to the fact that energy also bends spacetime

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you don't even need to know the clobbering behind the field equations, but the fact that it is there should clue you into the fact that energy must somehow affect spacetime

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why would it be there otherwise?

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please tell me you have at least seen this equation.

shrewd cliff
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i told you im really not deep in the math

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what is the stress-energy tensor

umbral briar
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@oblique furnace can i leave it to you hahah

shrewd cliff
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scared youll get it wrong?

oblique furnace
# shrewd cliff what is the stress-energy tensor

There are complete course about that. Yes, the main idea of GR is the redefining of gravity as the curvature of spacetime warped by mass, but what Hana is trying to get you to understand is that it's a highly simplified statement .. it isn't the whole picture and claiming that you've got GR sorted out by understanding that sentence or an image is like saying you can pilot a plane by watching Snakes on the Plane

shrewd cliff
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its all good

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lol

umbral briar
oblique furnace
shrewd cliff
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because there is no downside to talking out of your ass

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and expressing your ideas

oblique furnace
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I'm not saying there is

umbral briar
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for all we know, maybe there IS a theory of everything

shrewd cliff
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i think there is

umbral briar
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but if the person claiming to have a ToE doesn't fully understand the fields they're uniting

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is the ToE valid?

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what are the chances your ToE model is valid?

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i'm not against ToEs - far from it

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i love linking fields together

shrewd cliff
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idk i havent done any math

umbral briar
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but claiming a ToE is a very big deal. ever heard of the Langlands program?

shrewd cliff
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no

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is that money for me

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lol

umbral briar
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if you have the ability to really construct a rigorous ToE, all the more power to you, and go for it!

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but make sure you understand every part of your own ToE and the fields you're combining

shrewd cliff
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yeah

umbral briar
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not surface-level, but actually knowing what does what

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i'll be honest with you that even I don't fully understand GR and SR

shrewd cliff
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i think with my own theory i understand it but i need to dive deeper for it to be valid

umbral briar
shrewd cliff
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okay

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what the flip does this mean

umbral briar
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and also, your question might be better-suited for the physics server next time

shrewd cliff
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lemme join that

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ive been searching for discord server that i can go to

umbral briar
# shrewd cliff what the flip does this mean

simply put, the LHS is the curvature of spacetime. the RHS has G, the universal gravitational constant, c, the speed of light, and T_mu(rho), the stress-energy tensor
this equation relates them together

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i'll give you only this much as this is devolving quickly into a crash course in GR, which is not exactly what help channels are for

shrewd cliff
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9.8

umbral briar
shrewd cliff
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oh

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whats the gravitational constant

umbral briar
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The gravitational constant is an empirical physical constant that gives the strength of the gravitational field induced by a mass. It is involved in the calculation of gravitational effects in Sir Isaac Newton's law of universal gravitation and in Albert Einstein's theory of general relativity. It is also known as the universal gravitational con...

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if you want further answers to your very open-ended questions, i suggest either using discussion or going to the physics server

shrewd cliff
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gotchu

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thank you

umbral briar
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you are trying to learn p much GR from scratch, which isn't the point of a help channel

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nps

shrewd cliff
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can i add you

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ur smart

umbral briar
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no

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read my bio

shrewd cliff
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okay whatever

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ego be like

cinder vortex
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You should be thankful she was nice to you

shrewd cliff
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i a

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am

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i thanked her

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so whats the physics server

cinder vortex
umbral briar
cinder vortex
shrewd cliff
umbral briar
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idk if you have ever considered that people might have other personal reasons they don't accept friend reqs

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maybe they've been harassed before? or maybe a lot of scammers add them?

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let's not jump to conclusions from one statement like you did with GR lol

shrewd cliff
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okay im sorry

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but if you get harrassed then just block the person

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and if its spam just mute notis

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thats what i do

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and i have 11 thousand discord notis

urban dock
worn widget
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first time i've seen a theory of everything crank sully

cinder vortex