#quadratic

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verbal creek
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i want to advance read but ai is not helping

brazen lodgeBOT
verbal creek
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how do I do basic quadratic equation

earnest sundial
simple folio
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any examples?

idle totem
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$$ax^2+bx+c=0$$

halcyon fjordBOT
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Calistωo

idle totem
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This is the canonical form

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We would like to find x

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If we start of with a basic example like

$$x^2-d^2=0$$

Then we know that

$$x=\pm d$$

But this means that $x-d$ divides $$x^2-d^2$$

Why? Well suppose this wasnt true. Then we could write

$$x^2-d^2=p(x)(x-d)+r(x)$$

where $p(x)$ and $r(x)$ are just random polynomials of at most degree 1 (lines)

We know that $d$ is a solution to $x^2-d^2$ and $x-d$ so let's plug this in:

$$0=p(d)\cdot 0 +r(x)$$
$$r(x)=0$$

We have derived that our remainder is zero and so there for we have arrived at a contradiction as we a assumed that $(x-d)$ does not divide $x^2-d^2$ but this is only true when $r(x)\neq 0$.

halcyon fjordBOT
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Calistωo

idle totem
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Why go through all of this rigmarole though?

Well it tells us something important.

$$x^2-d^2=(x-d)(x+d)$$

or for our case, any quadratic can be written as

$$x^2+dx+c=x^2+2(a+b)x+ab$$

For some $a$ and $b$. (this applies when $x^2$ has a nonzero coeff)

halcyon fjordBOT
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Calistωo

idle totem
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So let's go back to our general case.

$$ax^2+bx+c=0$$

I'm going to do some chicanery to this now.

Divide by a

$$x^2+\frac{b}{a}x+\frac{c}{a}=0$$

add by zero

$$x^2+\frac{b}{a}x+\frac{b^2}{4a^2}-\frac{b^2}{4a^2}+\frac{4ac}{4a^2}=0$$

Collapse the square:

$$\left(x+\frac{b}{2a}\right)^2-\frac{b^2}{4a^2}+\frac{4ac}{4a^2}=0$$

$$\left(x+\frac{b}{2a}\right)^2=\frac{b^2-4ac}{4a^2}$$

simple folio
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probably could scaffold better imo, but i have no comments until i know what the OP knows (or doesn't know)

halcyon fjordBOT
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Calistωo

simple folio
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to me, it's like we jumped straight into the meat

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i presume the OP has no experience with quadratics

idle totem
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fair point ^^'

simple folio
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yet we are jumping around between teaching him how to solve, difference of two squares, and completing the squares

idle totem
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I was jus trying to give a general intuition for quadratic formula since that just works for any quadratic you would care about

simple folio
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don't get me wrong, very insightful explanations (and if you dm i would copy this if anyone asked me or is trolling me)

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but i feel like OP might not fully understand right away

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my two cents though

idle totem
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That's completely valid criticism

simple folio
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and given the fact he tried to use AI (so GPT i presume) means that his syllabus and/or teachers might also be failing him, so we have to assume he may be taught in a confusing manner

idle totem
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That's fair

simple folio
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i do have my personal notes prepared for OP if he needs help, but i'm not sure how clear my notes are for him

earnest sundial
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Respect

graceful chasm
verbal creek
verbal creek
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im confused at the

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uh

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-b±√4abc
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2(1)

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how do I do this one

verbal creek
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ok so guys i tried

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uh

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ok

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so

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4ײ-9-7x

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ok

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right

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so

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9 and 7 move

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so

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they be positive

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4ײ+7×+9=0

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right

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and then how do I do the next part

idle totem
halcyon fjordBOT
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Calistωo

idle totem
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so if $$f(x)=4x^2-7x+9$$

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then out solutions are

$$x=\frac{- (-7) \pm \sqrt{(-7)^2-4(4)(9)}}{2(4)}$$

halcyon fjordBOT
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Calistωo

idle totem
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$$x=\frac{- (-7) \pm \sqrt{(-7)^2-4(4)(9)}}{2(4)}$$

halcyon fjordBOT
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Calistωo

idle totem
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the plus or minus means there are two solutions here

verbal creek
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ok but why two 7

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and at the bottom how'd you get 2(4)

verbal creek
earnest sundial
earnest sundial
earnest sundial
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Your algebraic manipulation is incorrect.

idle totem
halcyon fjordBOT
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Calistωo

idle totem
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$$4x^2-7x+9=0$$
$$4x^2-7x+\frac{49}{16}+9-\frac{49}{16}=0$$
$$(4x^2-7x+\frac{49}{16})-\frac{49}{16}+\frac{16(9)}{16}=0$$
$$(4x^2-7x+\frac{49}{16})=\frac{49-4(9)(4)}{16}$$
$$\left(2x-\frac{7}{4}\right)^2=\frac{49-4(9)(4)}{16}$$
$$2x-\frac{7}{4}\right=\pm\frac{\sqrt{49-4(9)(4)}}{4}$$
$$2x=\frac{7}{4}\pm\frac{\sqrt{49-4(9)(4)}}{4}$$
$$x=\frac{7 \pm \sqrt{49-4(9)(4)}}{2(4)}$$
$$x=\frac{(-1)^2\cdot7 \pm \sqrt{49-4(9)(4)}}{2(4)}$$
$$x=\frac{-(-7) \pm \sqrt{49-4(9)(4)}}{2(4)}$$

halcyon fjordBOT
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Calistωo
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verbal creek
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I STILL DONT GET IT 💔💔

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I get the gist of it but like

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ok

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so

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ik this one

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7x²+3x=0

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a is 7 bis 3 c is 0

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ok

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i also get if it's the wrong uhh

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4x²=9+8x

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ok

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so

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4x²-8x-9=0

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cause change sign if transverse

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am i right

idle totem
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This is what you would be solving

verbal creek
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