#This doesnt make sense

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sick wind
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How can the angle change?
if the angle changes how can it still be in equillibrium

tawdry carbonBOT
sick wind
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so my hypothesis

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is that

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as the angle increases

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The force of friction must also increase

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so that when taking moments

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they are in equillibrium

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but as the friction force can only be as big as mew R

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there is a range

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the reason why i kept on misunderstanding

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was because you could cancel out the angles, giving you the lower bound of the angle

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because we took

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moments

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at A

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which absolved

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us of the normal reaction

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so thats why we got the lower bound

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taking moments at any other points other than A would give us an bigger angle

sick wind
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actually

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i get it now

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The frictional force = normal reaction force

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so it does nothing when we take moments, i.e it cancels out

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if the frcitional force is bigger than 2.5, (second last line) then that will be impossible

zinc quarry
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yeah, if you think in reality, a ladder can not only stand at some specific angle without slipping

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theres a range of angles

sick wind
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it doesnt make sense though

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the frictional forces will always be the same at any angle

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its insinuating that Reaction force somehow changes?

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it literally just doesnt make sense

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i think

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contextually

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maybe if the mass changes

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the angle woul dchange

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still wouldnt make sense

sick wind
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no

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i am assuming it is at fmax

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when actually the friction has a range of values

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and the value of friction

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it is determined by what it needs to be to balance the moments

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damn

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@zinc quarry what do you think

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it happens that for some angles

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the value of friction needed will surpass the fricition of coefficient times the normal reaction force

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yes thats it

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how did i not think of this sooner

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complete tunnel vision

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so easy to assume when given values smh

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in retrospect

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why was i even using

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Fmax

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im so angry

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ok whatever#

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.solved

tawdry carbonBOT
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Solved

Post marked as solved by @sick wind.

Use .unsolved if this was a mistake.

sick wind
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i actually know exactly why

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all the other questions were in limited equllibrium