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zenith marsh
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How to do b

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elfin rampart
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For0<=x<=2 , graph will be y=2x-x^2

zenith marsh
elfin rampart
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And same for all

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I'll have to draw on paper

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I'll try

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@zenith marsh do u also need an explanation

zenith marsh
zenith marsh
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U just leave it as a closed circle?

elfin rampart
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Yea, since the next graph also starts on the point 2,0

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Its open on 4,0 I didn't draw

zenith marsh
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He’ll

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Bloody hell

elfin rampart
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Closed circle at 4,pi and then continue till infinity

elfin rampart
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Correct, although I wouldn't recommend drawing the full parabola for the first part and draw the part only between 0 and 2

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If its for a teacher

zenith marsh
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Are u a teacher?

elfin rampart
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No

zenith marsh
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Yeah can u help me with some True or false questions v

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?

elfin rampart
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I can try

zenith marsh
elfin rampart
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14is true

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15is also true

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If u want reasons ask me

zenith marsh
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And differentiability

elfin rampart
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16 is also true

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You'll get it if you learn again, its very easy to understand

zenith marsh
elfin rampart
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Sure, where exactly do u mess up in continuity

zenith marsh
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Like how to u define that

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What is continuity means

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I’m so cooked

elfin rampart
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It means that if there is a function f(x) let's say, in an interval (a,b), f(x) gives all real values for a to b, on a graph you can think of this as 'y' giving a continuous line instead of breaking at one point and starting at another

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Like it was in the first question at 0,4 the graph was not continuous on that point

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Visually, just think of functions as graph, continuous graphs give us lines which do not break

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They could be straight or curve

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If a function is said to be continuous in the domain let's say [0,1), so its continuous from point 0 to barely point 1

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When we get open brackets, that means its mostly a limit

zenith marsh
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I just know that they discontinuous when the limit didn’t exist

elfin rampart
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Yea, for a function, you sometimes find right limit and then left limit and then on the point, if they're equal then its continuous

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If they're diff then it means the graph changed on either side of its neighborhood

zenith marsh
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F’x and f’’x?

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The first one is continuity?

elfin rampart
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No, ' on a function means we differentiated it

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F'(x) is diff one time

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F''(x) is diff to times

zenith marsh
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Oh.

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💀💀💀

elfin rampart
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Did you take differentiation lessons as part of the calculus?

zenith marsh
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But my teacher gives me homework about this and I forgot what he said to me

elfin rampart
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They shouldve taught u that since they gave u a couple of questions

zenith marsh
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Or they just talked about it for 10s

elfin rampart
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Well for starters and in theory, you should know that all points which are differentiable are also continuous,but all points which are continuous are not necessarily diff

elfin rampart
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Diff a function is like finding its slope

zenith marsh
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This one?

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I’m still confused

elfin rampart
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Yes

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What part are u confused in

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Okay see, take graph 4 on the pic u send me for an example ok? At 1,0 is it continuous or no?

zenith marsh
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How can we know if the derivative exists or not

elfin rampart
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No, it is continuous

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Something like graph 1 is not continuous

zenith marsh
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Where is graph 4

elfin rampart
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On graph 4, think of taking a limit on the graph, when limit goes to positive side of 1(on x axis) we get 2, when limit is on negative 1, we still get 2

elfin rampart
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2nd graph from the right

zenith marsh
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If it contains an open circle then it’s not continuous

elfin rampart
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Yea

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Now as u know derivative is slope of graph or simply on which angle the point is headed towards

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On point(1,2) it is continuous but do u think it's diff?

zenith marsh
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Differentiability

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Let me google it

elfin rampart
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Similar to continuity , does the function have same derivative in the neighborhood of points, if yes then diff

zenith marsh
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Cuz that is a sharp turning point

elfin rampart
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Yea that's correct

zenith marsh
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Ok

elfin rampart
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Do u know why tho

zenith marsh
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I remember it all

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Because at that point the slope is like infinity ?

elfin rampart
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No..

zenith marsh
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0?

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Idk

elfin rampart
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Only straight standing line/parallel to y axis have slope infinity

elfin rampart
zenith marsh
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Then idk

elfin rampart
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0 slope is parallel to x axis

zenith marsh
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The limit didn’t exist at that point?

elfin rampart
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Okay, so when finding if a point diff or not, just like continuity,we check slopes on either side of the point like limits

elfin rampart
elfin rampart
zenith marsh
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Are we talking about 4?

elfin rampart
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Yea

zenith marsh
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I don’t know the reason

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The slope one is positive and one is negative

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So it didn’t exist?

elfin rampart
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That's fine, left limit of point 1,2 lies on the slanting line before it, do u agree?

elfin rampart
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Yess, the slopes are diff on the same point when we use limits, so the point has no actual slope hence its not diff

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Get it?

zenith marsh
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Oh

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Yeah

elfin rampart
zenith marsh
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What about the last one

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They do have different slope

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But Ik they are diff

elfin rampart
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On the point 1,2

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They do have same slope

zenith marsh
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The slope is 0

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Bec it’s not a sharp turning point

elfin rampart
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Don't look at the extremes, limit means very very close to the point , so just anything except the actual point

elfin rampart
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Yup correct

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If we take limits on 1,2 left limit is usually 0.99999 and right limit is usually 1.00001

zenith marsh
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Yeha ik that

elfin rampart
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Nice

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Took more than3 mins but u got that rit?

zenith marsh
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Yeah

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But quadratic also have 2 slopes

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One is negative and one is positive

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Didn’t convinced myself lol

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That the diff does exist

elfin rampart
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Look at the point (1.00001,2)

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When limit goes to 1.00001 slope goes to 0 correct?

zenith marsh
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Yeah

elfin rampart
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Take .99999 as limit and slope still goes to 0

zenith marsh
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Ohhhh

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I got it

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Diff exist when the graph is smooth

elfin rampart
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You are correct

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Good

zenith marsh
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Ok finally

elfin rampart
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I was going to say that, but u came to the conclusion urself that's great

zenith marsh
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Thank u so much

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For teaching a grade 9 kid to understand this concept

elfin rampart
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Its my pleasure

zenith marsh
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Thx again

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