#Find the domain of a function
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stuck here at picture 4
In picture 4 you just have to consider more cases
my friends are now telling me to draw a chart like this:
are they correct?
btw, that's not a solution yet
The first time i have seen something like this, I don't know if this is valid but my way is just considering more cases
okay, then I have those 4 cases from the pic above the last one
I have a question
What
Can I leave it in the form of quadratic equation?
This is the original assignment
and I have to find the domain
You can but it doesn't help because if you want to split the log you are going to have to consider when all of them are positive
can we start from this image:
I found what conditions I need
one is that x+1 mustn't equal 0
the other that the whole fraction must be higher than 0
let's start from there
True
okay, so my solution mustn't include -1
now moving onto the fraction
how do we solve it?
we need to find all x values that will result in a positive fraction?
There's probably easier ways, but I am going to give what I can think of now
Yes
alright
By the way, this is if you want to split the log you can find the limitations then see what limitations you get and use the x value that include all positive
how to split it?
Like for example log(20-x)+log(x+10) then you say x+10>0 and 20-x>0
Using log properties log(xy)=logx+logy and log(x/y)=logx-logy
Let's do that
I think that would be easier than the first way
log(x/y)=logx-logy
Yes
Wait maybe this way doesn't work because it doesn't account for when both are negative and they cancel
they can be both negative or both positive
we must get a positive number
right?
Sorry I think we should go back to the old way
Yes
ok
Ok so let's consider the inside of the log bigger than zero
ok
can we try putting in various numbers
instead of x
1 won't do
-1 won't do
I don't think that works going back to the fourth picture we can consider when like (x-1)(x-2)>0 then say it's either x-1>0 or x-1<0
but why transfer it from quadratic to two binomails?
So we can find the solution for the inequity
you can leave it quadratic and say xsq -3x +2 >0
You can but simplification after that is not easy because it's an inequality
nominator and denominator must both have same presign
so we make into 2 cases like this
then we solve
find the interval
Yes also you have to consider two cases in every case
maybe
2 and above works I think in first case
sorry, above 2
so that's one
next we go below -1
everything lower than -1 works too
We say x-1>0 when x-2>0 or x-1<0 when x-2<0
I don't know how to say it, x-2 could be negative when x-1 is positive so you have to consider both cases when x-1 and x-2 are positive or negative
Oh so you considering when both are positive in first case?
I don't how that works but if it does use it I don't know
Ok use it
You can check after solving on wolfram alpha or look in a graphing calculator
I would approach this by solving the inequality:
$\frac{x^2 - 3x + 2}{x+1} > 0$
It is tempting to multiply by $(x+1)$ but, even assuming $x\neq -1$,
you don't know what $x$ is and so you don't know if $(x+1)$ is
positive or negative, and so you can't know whether to retain or
flip the direction of the inequality sign.
This problem is avoided by multiplying by $(x+1)^2$, which can't be negative:
$\frac{(x-1)(x-2)}{x+1} \times (x+1)^2 > 0 \times (x+1)^2$ provided $x \neq -1$
$(x-1)(x-2)(x+1) > 0$
Sketching this positive cubic functionwith single roots at $x= -1, 1, 2$,
it is clear that it is above the $x$-axis for $x \in (-1,,1)\cup(2,,\infty)$.