#Find the domain of a function

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desert gazelle
austere chasmBOT
desert gazelle
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stuck here at picture 4

vapid locust
desert gazelle
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my friends are now telling me to draw a chart like this:

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are they correct?

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btw, that's not a solution yet

vapid locust
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The first time i have seen something like this, I don't know if this is valid but my way is just considering more cases

desert gazelle
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okay, then I have those 4 cases from the pic above the last one

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I have a question

vapid locust
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What

desert gazelle
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Can I leave it in the form of quadratic equation?

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This is the original assignment

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and I have to find the domain

vapid locust
desert gazelle
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can we start from this image:

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I found what conditions I need

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one is that x+1 mustn't equal 0

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the other that the whole fraction must be higher than 0

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let's start from there

vapid locust
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True

desert gazelle
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okay, so my solution mustn't include -1

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now moving onto the fraction

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how do we solve it?

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we need to find all x values that will result in a positive fraction?

vapid locust
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There's probably easier ways, but I am going to give what I can think of now

desert gazelle
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alright

vapid locust
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By the way, this is if you want to split the log you can find the limitations then see what limitations you get and use the x value that include all positive

desert gazelle
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how to split it?

vapid locust
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Like for example log(20-x)+log(x+10) then you say x+10>0 and 20-x>0

vapid locust
desert gazelle
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Let's do that

vapid locust
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I think that would be easier than the first way

desert gazelle
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log(x/y)=logx-logy

vapid locust
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Yes

desert gazelle
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How do you solve this? We are not allowed calculators on exam

vapid locust
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Wait maybe this way doesn't work because it doesn't account for when both are negative and they cancel

desert gazelle
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they can be both negative or both positive

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we must get a positive number

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right?

vapid locust
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Sorry I think we should go back to the old way

vapid locust
desert gazelle
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ok

vapid locust
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Ok so let's consider the inside of the log bigger than zero

desert gazelle
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ok

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can we try putting in various numbers

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instead of x

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1 won't do

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-1 won't do

vapid locust
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I don't think that works going back to the fourth picture we can consider when like (x-1)(x-2)>0 then say it's either x-1>0 or x-1<0

desert gazelle
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but why transfer it from quadratic to two binomails?

vapid locust
desert gazelle
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you can leave it quadratic and say xsq -3x +2 >0

vapid locust
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You can but simplification after that is not easy because it's an inequality

desert gazelle
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nominator and denominator must both have same presign

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so we make into 2 cases like this

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then we solve

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find the interval

vapid locust
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Yes also you have to consider two cases in every case

desert gazelle
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maybe

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2 and above works I think in first case

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sorry, above 2

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so that's one

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next we go below -1

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everything lower than -1 works too

vapid locust
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We say x-1>0 when x-2>0 or x-1<0 when x-2<0

desert gazelle
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you confused me

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this is good I think

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now second case

vapid locust
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I don't know how to say it, x-2 could be negative when x-1 is positive so you have to consider both cases when x-1 and x-2 are positive or negative

desert gazelle
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yes I know

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we are not finished

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we must find intersection

vapid locust
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Oh so you considering when both are positive in first case?

desert gazelle
vapid locust
desert gazelle
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we combine the two intervals

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Photomath solve it

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I must go to dinner

vapid locust
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Ok use it

desert gazelle
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I come later

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see you

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thanks

vapid locust
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You can check after solving on wolfram alpha or look in a graphing calculator

delicate blaze
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I would approach this by solving the inequality:

$\frac{x^2 - 3x + 2}{x+1} > 0$

It is tempting to multiply by $(x+1)$ but, even assuming $x\neq -1$,

you don't know what $x$ is and so you don't know if $(x+1)$ is

positive or negative, and so you can't know whether to retain or

flip the direction of the inequality sign.

This problem is avoided by multiplying by $(x+1)^2$, which can't be negative:

$\frac{(x-1)(x-2)}{x+1} \times (x+1)^2 > 0 \times (x+1)^2$ provided $x \neq -1$

$(x-1)(x-2)(x+1) > 0$

Sketching this positive cubic functionwith single roots at $x= -1, 1, 2$,

it is clear that it is above the $x$-axis for $x \in (-1,,1)\cup(2,,\infty)$.