#hey guys would like some help with f'(x)=x^2 root 12-8x not sure how to find the cutting point

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woven geyser
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What's a "cutting point"?

dense flint
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thats what u call it in my language its like when the y reaches zero or something

woven geyser
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So simply you are asking f'(x) = 0?

dense flint
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like when y is (2,0)

woven geyser
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y is a single value, not a point

dense flint
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im having a strugle trying to find what it called mb

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ill send a photo rq

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i hope u understand it

woven geyser
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wtf

dense flint
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mb the y'(x) shouldnt be there

woven geyser
dense flint
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thats what i mean

woven geyser
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What does that line represent? The derivative or primitive?

dense flint
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sorry for the struggle its not the derivative not sure what is primitive

woven geyser
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If derivative f' then primitive is f

dense flint
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but im trying to find when y hits 0

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yea primitive

woven geyser
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But then you have f'(x) = x²sqrt(12-8x)

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You wanna find f(x) = 0 but you are given the derivative

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Unless you did a typo

dense flint
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dam i did a mistake mb

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its primitive not a derivative

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sorry

woven geyser
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So you mean f(x)

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instead of f'(x)

dense flint
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yes

woven geyser
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Ok

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finally

old pulsarBOT
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𝔸dωn𝓲²s

woven geyser
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You just need to apply Zero Product Theorem

dense flint
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the answer i got was y= sqrt 12

woven geyser
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A product is 0 if at least one of its factors is 0.

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But first we need to check the domain, 12-8x >= 0 so 3/2 >= x

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Check

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x² = 0

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and

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sqrt(12-8x) = 0

woven geyser
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ok good

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there is another solution as well

dense flint
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wait uh

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how its called when y=0

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like0,0

woven geyser
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x-intercepts

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roots

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zeroes

dense flint
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wait so how do i find the intercept i think for when y=0

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then its 0=x^2 sqrt12-8x

woven geyser
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You already found one

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x = 3/2

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and I am saying there is another one

dense flint
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oh

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wait so what i need to do sorry i didnt quite understand

woven geyser
dense flint
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so i need to solve both of them?

woven geyser
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of course

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What happens if ||x=0||?

dense flint
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then its 0?

woven geyser
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yea

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so x = 0 and x = 3/2 are the x-intercepts s.t. y = 0

dense flint
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wait so if its 0 then also y is 0? like then i got both intercepts?

woven geyser
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yes

dense flint
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i also found the derivative

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its x=0 and x=1.2 which im not sure its true because 3/2

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and it cant be

woven geyser
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What

dense flint
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i mean the when u comparing derivative to 0

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then u get a number when the function is lowest or highest

woven geyser
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First of all what is f'(x)?

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How did you calculate it?

dense flint
woven geyser
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ok lol

dense flint
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i did ratzional i think formula

woven geyser
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,, f'(x) = 2x\sqrt{12-8x}-\frac{4x^2}{\sqrt{12-8x}}

old pulsarBOT
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𝔸dωn𝓲²s

woven geyser
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Now you wanna know f'(x) = 0

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,, 0 = 2x\sqrt{12-8x}-\frac{4x^2}{\sqrt{12-8x}}

old pulsarBOT
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𝔸dωn𝓲²s

dense flint
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pretty sure its 8x^2

woven geyser
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8/2?

dense flint
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,, 0 = 2x\sqrt{12-8x}-\frac{8x^2}{\sqrt{12-8x}}

old pulsarBOT
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madrega

dense flint
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like that

woven geyser
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?

dense flint
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yea mb

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,, 0 = 2x\sqrt{12-8x}-\frac{8x^2}{\sqrt2{12-8x}}

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no wait

woven geyser
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just delete bro

dense flint
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2*sqrt12-8x

woven geyser
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,, 2x\sqrt{12-8x}=\frac{4x^2}{\sqrt{12-8x}}

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Now rearrange

dense flint
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ohhh

old pulsarBOT
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𝔸dωn𝓲²s

dense flint
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nah nvm im just dumb

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,, 2x\sqrt{12-8x}=\frac{8x^2}{\2\sqrt{12-8x}

old pulsarBOT
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dense flint
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how do u multiply

woven geyser
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Now assume x != 3/2 not equatl to 3/2

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And then multiply by sqrt(12-8x)

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,, 2x(12-8x) = 4x^2

old pulsarBOT
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𝔸dωn𝓲²s

woven geyser
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Now bring everything to one side and factor 2x

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,, 4x^2-2x(12-8x) = 2x(2x-(12-8x))=0

old pulsarBOT
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𝔸dωn𝓲²s

woven geyser
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Now again zero product theorem

dense flint
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i think u messed up a lil

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its 8x^2

woven geyser
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2x = 0 or 2x-(12-8x) = 0

dense flint
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i got x=0 or x=1.

woven geyser
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How did you get x=1?

dense flint
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1.2

woven geyser
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ok correct

dense flint
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wait

dense flint
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like u can do that?

woven geyser
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I multiplied it assuming x is not 3/2

dense flint
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oh alright

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wait so now i got enough info to sketch the function?

woven geyser
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You would need to verify if these are actual extreme values but yea you can try

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You could try to anaylize the limits towards x->-inf

woven geyser
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wdym

dense flint
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i mean we found domain right?

woven geyser
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yes

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what happens for very small values of x

dense flint
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so if x>=3/2

woven geyser
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no

dense flint
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how can x be 0 or 1.2

woven geyser
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x <= 3/2

dense flint
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oh

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so to verify it i need to check values in the original function or the premitive?

woven geyser
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No

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You do either 1st derivative test (Is there a change of monotony) or 2nd derivative test.

dense flint
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yea the first test

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thats also how u sketch the premitive right?