#Is the answer just 1?

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stuck birch
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In the figure above, ΔABC is a scalene triangle, DE = BC. Using D, and E as two vertices of a new triangle DEF, so that ΔDEF ≅ΔBCA, how many triangles can be drawn?

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stuck birch
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woeful chasm
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A can be above or below

stuck birch
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so 2?

tall radish
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You can have it lean to the left or right

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Is it still congruent in that case actually

stuck birch
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what do you mean?

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i tried 2 as the answer but it is not right

tall radish
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The triangle thats drawn the point A is more to the right

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You can imagine reflecting it over a vertical line

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Whats the definition of congruence actually

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That you can reach it using some transformation?

stuck birch
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congruency means all same angle and same sides

tall radish
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How many guesses do you have

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I would try like 4 next but idk i would want to think more about it

stuck birch
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i have one more try

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why is the answer not 2 tho?

tall radish
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I can draw my guess

stuck birch
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the answer choices are 1, 2, 3, 4, or 6

tall radish
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this is what i'm thinking currently

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that's what I meant by left or right

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but maybe there's more

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ok so since DE = BC that actually restricts things

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you only have two choices of lengths to draw the other sides with

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what do you think

stuck birch
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i think it probably should be 4 then

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because i have 2 choices AB > AC or AB < AC. and both times i can reflect over

tall radish
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yeah exactly 2*2=4

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but can we get 6 somehow?

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i'm thinking no because that DE is fixed

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and it's obvious none of the two triangles are the same (if two were the same, it would make it 3)... since it's scalene?

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so it should be 4

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i can't think of how to make 3 or 6

stuck birch
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wait but based on this logic couldn't there be infinitely many because we can move point A anywhere and match it with point F

tall radish
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wait wdym

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so you have a triangle ABC that's scalene meaning that all the side lengths are different, also the triangle is like fixed before you start considering things

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if the triangle DEF is congruent to ABC and you've also fixed the segment DE somewhere, you can't draw a third point arbitrarily, or else you might get a triangle with different side lengths?

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maybe i'm not understanding what you mean

stuck birch
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ok so what I am saying is that, we can make BCA have BA = 4 and CA = 3. We can also make triangle DEF so DF = 4 and EF = 3. We have basically infinitely ways to make the 2 triangles congruent no?

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maybe I am not understanding the question correctly

tall radish
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why would there be infinitely many ways

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if we imagine you have like two sticks of length 4 and 3, and say the third side of the triangle is the ground right

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you can't move them around arbitrarily and still have a triangle

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like only at certain points will the two sticks perfectly touch each other and form a triangle?

stuck birch
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maybe I am not understanding the question properly

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is the question asking saying that triangle BCA has a fixed length in which how many ways that you can make triangle DEF congruent to BCA?

tall radish
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I think it's saying like, you are starting with a scalene triangle ABC. We give you a side DE = BC. How many ways can you draw the point F in the plane so that DEF is congruent to ABC?

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that's how I'm understanding it

stuck birch
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hmmm i see

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so the answer probably is just 4 then right

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because it is basically asking how many ways you can reflect triangle BCA

tall radish
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yea but don't hold me accountable if it's not right lol

tall radish
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which I think limits it to reflection

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and you can only do vertical and horizontal reflections here i think

stuck birch
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yes I inputted 4 in and it is correct

tall radish
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ok nice

stuck birch
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thanks so much

tall radish
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np

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