#Is intuition able to provide an answer to this, or is there another way?
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You can assume the domain is always R unless you have restrictions like division by 0, negative number under the square root or non-positive numbers in the logarithm.
The range is more complicated, it requires analyzing the function in terms of extrema, limits, monotony etc.
More than half of these terms are unfamiliar to me, but it's okay.
I did see something in the internet where they tested 2, 1, 0, 1, 1, and 2 to know the domain
limits I meant like horizontal/vertical asymptotes
Should I learn that first? or maybe in spare time?
monotony refers to the behavior of a function in terms of wheter it's incresing or decreasing
,w plot y = x^2
this functions has a minimum
at x = 0
and it's increasing for x > 0
so from that you can conclude its range [0,oo)
increasing on the right side? and decreasing on the left?
I see.
then it increases
so here
i should demand that you know basic functions
like x²
x
sqrt(x)
1/x
and like that
because from that you can conclude similarities
I haven't read the entire function part yet (really takes time to learn new stuff)
But I think that number 2 cannot be 0 or negative so the domain is [1, inf]
What do you mean by similarities, by the way? Is that a topic or the actual definition of it?
i came up with that
not quiet
,, y = \sqrt{5x+10}
𝔸dωn𝓲²s
if x = 0
I get sqrt(10)
still positive inside
So instead what you are looking out for is
5x + 10 < 0
and exclude these solutions from the domain
ohh
alternatively you can consider
𝔸dωn𝓲²s
these solutions tell what x are in the domain
only them would be allowed
so if you solve it
you get
either
𝔸dωn𝓲²s
try 2. or 4.
in 3.
you can also consider the argument (what's inside the square root)
y = 5x+10 is a linear functions
,w plot y = 5x+10
it's negative if x < -2
you can also see it that way
if you try 4. on your own now
it's easier to consider the argument graphically
Oh my bad, I was doing something, ima solve that later, so sorry.
Okay, I've been rereading it for awhile, and I am a bit confused about starting this bad (sorry I was doing chores).
no sorry just show your work
or what is it
What you are trying to ask is to substitute 2.4 here? (sorry I am lost in that part)
no
Sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to imply here. Either I am too dumb to understand or I am being dyslexic
You can either calculate which x are illegal (1st) or you can calculate which are in the domain (allowed) (2nd)
Do you see how they complement each other
x < 2 is the complement of x >= 2
or basically "opposite"
Either we say R{x < -2}
Or x >= -2
So anything less than -2 is illegal, and anything greater than or equal to -2 is allowed. For what I understand, these are two ways to find the domain of the function.
From what I understand, they are both trying to imply the same thing.
-2 < x < inf
or
[-2,inf)?
yes
Except it's actually
-2 <= x < oo
-2 allowded too
Makes the inner part 0
so sqrt(0) if x = -2
Which is still valid
my bad, I forgot the equal
So since anything below 0 is not part of the domain,
5x + 10 < - 1 (illegal)
5x + 10 >= 0 (legal)
therefore
[0, inf)
dammit, I am not usning my brain right, I FORGOT ABOUT THE MULTIPLICATION MY BAD SO SORRY
haha what
I forgot about 5(x)
Here a quick sheet
5(-2) + 10 = 0 (I need to get used to these stuff)
𝔸dωn𝓲²s
So the trick here is to focus on one area where it can cause an error, such as the square root or denominator in a fraction.
hope you can start something with this
Yes
Because there it isnt defined
@weary mesa By the way, thank you so much for your time. I still have a very long road to actually reach mathematical maturity, but I am trying everyday.
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I kept hearing that term, and I imagine it as some sort of having a greater understanding of the concept.
yea 🥱
lol
aight, I think we're good here. thank you
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Post marked as solved by @dusky kayak.
Use .unsolved if this was a mistake.
I have to take note of this stuff, especially these techniques, so that I can easily review it.
This here
understood
?
task 4 bro
oh right, my bad
x^2 - 3x >= 0
so to make this 0 then 3, since 3^2 = 9 and 3*3 = 9
[3, inf)
So anything below 3 is illegal (result in negative)
for example
2^2 - 3(2)
4 - 6 = -2 which is below 0
Oh, so the solution consist of illegals and legal?
Thats why I said you consider it graphically too
y = x² - 3x = x(x-3)
Roots x = 0 or x = 3
The parabola is open upwards
Thus
(-oo, 0] U [3,oo)
For this interval
x²-3x is positive or 0
Though it is already midnight and I have to go to bed, I think I have trouble looking it up in graphs. If that is okay with you, I will come back here in the morning.
@weary mesa btw thanks once again
By the way aren't we doing like a square root? so anything below 0 is not part of domain?
Also the black dot is the negative inf to 0 then the red is 3 to inf?
Am I looking at it in the right way?
@weary mesa I forgot to tag you lol, this might be hidden on discord
I dont understand the first question. The second statement ist correct.
I mean, x^2 - 3x came from question 4, which is square rooting x^2 - 3x. Am I looking at it in the right way? I am confused. I thought negative cannot be square-rooted, or is my algebra wrong?
Oh nvm, squared is more than -3(n)
even with negatives such as x, -3 will make it positive, my bad