#Is intuition able to provide an answer to this, or is there another way?

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flint tapir
jovial dawnBOT
weary mesa
# flint tapir

You can assume the domain is always R unless you have restrictions like division by 0, negative number under the square root or non-positive numbers in the logarithm.

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The range is more complicated, it requires analyzing the function in terms of extrema, limits, monotony etc.

flint tapir
weary mesa
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My bad haha

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extrema are maxima or minima

flint tapir
weary mesa
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limits I meant like horizontal/vertical asymptotes

flint tapir
weary mesa
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monotony refers to the behavior of a function in terms of wheter it's incresing or decreasing

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,w plot y = x^2

weary mesa
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this functions has a minimum

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at x = 0

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and it's increasing for x > 0

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so from that you can conclude its range [0,oo)

flint tapir
weary mesa
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yess

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and it only decreases until that minimum

flint tapir
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I see.

weary mesa
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then it increases

weary mesa
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i should demand that you know basic functions

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like x²

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x

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sqrt(x)

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1/x

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and like that

weary mesa
flint tapir
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I haven't read the entire function part yet (really takes time to learn new stuff)

But I think that number 2 cannot be 0 or negative so the domain is [1, inf]

flint tapir
weary mesa
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i came up with that

weary mesa
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,, y = \sqrt{5x+10}

raw pantherBOT
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𝔸dωn𝓲²s

weary mesa
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if x = 0

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I get sqrt(10)

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still positive inside

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So instead what you are looking out for is

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5x + 10 < 0

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and exclude these solutions from the domain

flint tapir
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ohh

weary mesa
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alternatively you can consider

raw pantherBOT
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𝔸dωn𝓲²s

weary mesa
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these solutions tell what x are in the domain

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only them would be allowed

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so if you solve it

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you get

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either

raw pantherBOT
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𝔸dωn𝓲²s

weary mesa
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try 2. or 4.

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in 3.

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you can also consider the argument (what's inside the square root)

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y = 5x+10 is a linear functions

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,w plot y = 5x+10

weary mesa
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it's negative if x < -2

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you can also see it that way

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if you try 4. on your own now

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it's easier to consider the argument graphically

flint tapir
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Oh my bad, I was doing something, ima solve that later, so sorry.

flint tapir
# weary mesa try 2. or 4.

Okay, I've been rereading it for awhile, and I am a bit confused about starting this bad (sorry I was doing chores).

weary mesa
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or what is it

flint tapir
weary mesa
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no

flint tapir
weary mesa
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You can either calculate which x are illegal (1st) or you can calculate which are in the domain (allowed) (2nd)

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Do you see how they complement each other

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x < 2 is the complement of x >= 2

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or basically "opposite"

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Either we say R{x < -2}

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Or x >= -2

flint tapir
# weary mesa Either we say R\{x < -2}

So anything less than -2 is illegal, and anything greater than or equal to -2 is allowed. For what I understand, these are two ways to find the domain of the function.

From what I understand, they are both trying to imply the same thing.

-2 < x < inf

or

[-2,inf)?

weary mesa
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yes

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Except it's actually

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-2 <= x < oo

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-2 allowded too

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Makes the inner part 0

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so sqrt(0) if x = -2

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Which is still valid

flint tapir
weary mesa
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yeah np

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You got the idea

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Thats important

flint tapir
weary mesa
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No

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5x + 10 < 0

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and we just said it's [-2, inf)

flint tapir
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dammit, I am not usning my brain right, I FORGOT ABOUT THE MULTIPLICATION MY BAD SO SORRY

weary mesa
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haha what

flint tapir
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I forgot about 5(x)

weary mesa
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Here a quick sheet

flint tapir
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5(-2) + 10 = 0 (I need to get used to these stuff)

raw pantherBOT
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𝔸dωn𝓲²s

flint tapir
weary mesa
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hope you can start something with this

weary mesa
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Because there it isnt defined

flint tapir
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@weary mesa By the way, thank you so much for your time. I still have a very long road to actually reach mathematical maturity, but I am trying everyday.

weary mesa
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I disagree

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there is no mathematical maturity imo

flint tapir
weary mesa
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The more you get into math

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The more inmature things get

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Like a toxic relationship

flint tapir
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I kept hearing that term, and I imagine it as some sort of having a greater understanding of the concept.

weary mesa
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yea 🥱

flint tapir
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aight, I think we're good here. thank you

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.close

jovial dawnBOT
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Solved

Post marked as solved by @dusky kayak.

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flint tapir
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I have to take note of this stuff, especially these techniques, so that I can easily review it.

weary mesa
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I did it for you

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This is basically what should be in your mind

weary mesa
flint tapir
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understood

weary mesa
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good

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Now do 4

flint tapir
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?

weary mesa
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task 4 bro

flint tapir
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oh right, my bad

x^2 - 3x >= 0

so to make this 0 then 3, since 3^2 = 9 and 3*3 = 9

[3, inf)

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So anything below 3 is illegal (result in negative)

for example

2^2 - 3(2)

4 - 6 = -2 which is below 0

weary mesa
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,w plot y=x^2-3x

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Not quiet

weary mesa
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What about the other side

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x < 0?

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You forgot one

flint tapir
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but is the other one correct?

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you mean the allowed one?

weary mesa
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Yes

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It's part of the solution

flint tapir
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Oh, so the solution consist of illegals and legal?

weary mesa
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Thats why I said you consider it graphically too

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y = x² - 3x = x(x-3)

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Roots x = 0 or x = 3

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The parabola is open upwards

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Thus

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(-oo, 0] U [3,oo)

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For this interval

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x²-3x is positive or 0

flint tapir
# raw panther

Though it is already midnight and I have to go to bed, I think I have trouble looking it up in graphs. If that is okay with you, I will come back here in the morning.

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@weary mesa btw thanks once again

weary mesa
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yeaa

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so sentimental

flint tapir
# raw panther

By the way aren't we doing like a square root? so anything below 0 is not part of domain?

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Also the black dot is the negative inf to 0 then the red is 3 to inf?

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Am I looking at it in the right way?

flint tapir
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@weary mesa I forgot to tag you lol, this might be hidden on discord

weary mesa
flint tapir
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Oh nvm, squared is more than -3(n)

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even with negatives such as x, -3 will make it positive, my bad