#can someone please help me solve this question

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native orchidBOT
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A, B, and D require a change of variable. C is already separable.

thick current
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!noans

native orchidBOT
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The purpose of this server is to help you learn, not to hand out answers. Do not ask someone to give you the answer directly.

thick current
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I know but Idk how can I solve it

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Do you know how to solve separable differential equations?

thick current
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I haven't studied that yet

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How are you getting these problems then?

thick current
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Self Learning mostly and I asked my teacher to give me some questions (it's not a homework or like that)

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Do you know integration at least?

thick current
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I know Bernoulli, Riccati, Claro, Lagrange these type of questions

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Okay. So something simple like $\int \cos x dx$, you can solve that?

crystal ridgeBOT
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Of course that's sin(x) + C

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perfect

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okay then I'll give you quick info a simple differential equation, then a seperable differential equation.

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Assume we have the equation $y'=f(x)$ and we wanted to solve for $y$. How we can do this is by integrating both sides. If $y'=f(x)$, then $\int y' dy=\int f(x)dx+C$ where $C$ is any constant.

crystal ridgeBOT
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And, of course, $\int y'dy=y$ by definition of derivative of and antiderivative

crystal ridgeBOT
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Now here's the neat part. Assume instead of $y'=f(x)$, we wanted to solve $y'=f(x, y)$. Now, $f$ is a function of both $x$ and $y$.

crystal ridgeBOT
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In general, we cannot always solve this. But, assume we could write $f(x, y)$ as a product of a function of $x$ and a function of $y$. That is, assume there are functions $g(x)$ and $h(y)$ such that $f(x, y)=g(x)h(y)$.

crystal ridgeBOT
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Then $f$ is called a separable function, and $y'=g(x)h(y)$ is separable differentiable equation.

crystal ridgeBOT
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This type of equation is actually pretty easy to solve. Just divide both sides by $h(y)$ (where we assume $h(y)\ne 0$). Then we have $\frac{y'}{h(y)}=g(x)$

crystal ridgeBOT
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I need to make a minor correction here. Instead of $y'$, we'll write $\frac{dy}{dx}$. Then we can write $\frac{dy}{dx}=f(x)$ as $dy=f(x)dx$. We then integrate both sides of this to get $\int dy=\int f(x)dx+C$, or $y=\int f(x)dx+C$

crystal ridgeBOT
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I see

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With that correction, I'll rewrite this separable equation as $\frac{dy}{h(y)}=g(x)dx$. Now the left side is just in terms of $y$, and the right side is just in terms of $x$ (this is why we call the differential equation "separable"). We can solve this now just by integrating both sides: $\int{\frac{dy}{h(y)}}=\int f(x)dx+C$

crystal ridgeBOT
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As a simple exercise of your understanding, try solving $y'=xy$.

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Can we say ln(y) = $x*dx ==> ln(y) = (1/2)*x^2 and then *e to both sides => y = e^((1/2)*x^2)

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close.

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You need the +C

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Oh,right I forgot sorry

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Thank you 🙏

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It's more than $+C$ just fyi. This part is extremely important.

crystal ridgeBOT
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We have $\frac{dy}{y}=xdx$. We integrate both sides and $\ln\abs{y}=\frac{1}{2}x^2+C$

crystal ridgeBOT
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We now exponentiate both sides: $\abs{y}=\exp(\frac{1}{2}x^2+C)$

crystal ridgeBOT
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Thanks alot

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See how the +C is inside the exponent?

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Yes

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Yeah. That's pretty vital. It changes the equation greatly.

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You can distribute the exponent to get $\abs{y}=e^C e^{x^2/2}$

crystal ridgeBOT
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Yeah

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Then you can remove the absolute value by instead writing $y=\pm e^C e^{x^2/2}$

crystal ridgeBOT
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But $\pm e^C$ is just a constant value based on $C$, so you can write the whole thing as its own constant: $A$ (or some people like to do lowercase $c$). So the full final solution would be $y=Ae^{x^2/2}$

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sound good?

crystal ridgeBOT
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I see thanks again

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So, see if you can do C. It's a separable equation. Try to get all the x and y terms separated