#hi can someone help me study for my math exam (its in a week)
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i have 2 exams algebra and geometry
i have a worksheet can someone explain to me how to solve some of the questions
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you still have time its a week !!!
ah alr thanks
hopefully π
ok im kinda bad with inequalities
one of my questions is 4(x+1) - 5x <= 3
so firstly i removed the brackets
4x + 4 - 5x <= 3
and i combined like terms
-x + 4 <= 3
and next?
but im not sure if i can just say that -x <= -1
isnt it already solved
well i want you to tell me the value of x
there is -x not x itself
can you guess the value of x from the equation?
4
yes!
and what if i tell
you
that its easy as that
just multiply both sides by "-"
by negative
what is negative times negative?
the thing you did was right btw
but there is only one thing to remember
when it comes to inequality
the sign switches?
i forgot when it switches π
when u multiple by negatives yes or n
when you multiply by negative, the sign switches
i bolded it so if you wanna check you can see it easily
okok
ok so waht would be your final answer
no it became x-4 >= -3
oh right since 3 was positive
yez
ok so try to solve this one 6 - x >= 8
ok
so firstly
i would minus 6 from both sides
-x >= 2
and then
multiply both by -1
x <= -2
YEP!!
that is completely correct!
now lets say you somehow forgot if you are doing the right thing
and you wanna check if your answer is correct
choose a number from the interval you got
for example here you got x<2
what an interval π
ah ok
it means that x should be less than 2
so pick a number for x from x < 2 and tell me if the x you picked satisfies the very first version of the inequality
ok great
now put it here and tell me if the inequality works
ok
4(1-1) + 1 > -2
4(0) + 1 > -2
1 > -2
okok thats correct
i get it now
but can u help me
with square roots
i hate those
can you give me an example to know what type of question you are dealing with?
yea sure
wait
also its kinda rude that im helping you rn cuz two other people messaged this help forum
?
i mean @wanton oar and the other person that i cant ping
can you help him with the square root justnoor?
send your problem
zrui7 ?
oh the legendary person is here!!
alr
how is it going mate
No, Iβm bad. Wrong person XD
Alr, letβs focus on his question
bruh your limit problems are longer than my name
anyways
do you have any idea on how they work?
yea
ok great can you tell me what you think about it?
tell me everything you know
like im not suppsoed to work with the product of the square root right
well first you gotta do some stuff inside of the square roots
square root of a number is that product of the square root squared
and then multiply sqrt(6) to it
oh yeah thats the explaination of that
for example waht is the answer for sqrt(9)
3
4
what about sqrt(25)
exactly!
but im kinda bad in like other stuff
ok now lets use these stuff
the very first thing you gotta know is that sqrt(ab) = sqrt(a) * sqrt(b)
like
β45 = β4 * β5
?
oh wait
u mean
β20 = β4 * β5
?
no ab means a times b
ah yes
sqrt(20)
thatβs exactly what we are gonna do
So remember this and let me give you some examples
No problem take your time
When you wanna simplify a square root, you usually try to find a multiplication that is square number, so when it comes out like sqrt(4) it will turn into 2
Whenever you are here, try to simplify this
hi @pine ridge
2β14
hello
Look what we did here and do the same thing
yes but thatβs not simplified!
Sooo, what would be your final answer?
you probably mean sqrt(48) = 4sqrt(3) which is correct!
You have written sqrt(12)
which as you said is 2sqrt(3)
but combining it back with 2
oh right sorry
both of them are correct, because idk how to put that sign here I write sqrt
basically you should write this
in math we donβt use sqrt on paper
i js copy pasted it from google
Ok nice
nono i mean digitally do u use sqrt or β
yes!!
you were also doing the correct thing at first
sqrt(5) * sqrt(15)
sqrt(5). Sqrt(5) . Sqrt(3)
5sqrt(3)
yea but it was more complex
Now letβs actually use these stuff
Try to simplify the stuff first and then multiply sqrt(2) inside
now try to simplify square root of 18
β18 = 3β2
So now replace the stuff and tell me the answer!
Yep
so you multiply sqrt(2) to the inside
you get 5sqrt(2) times sqrt(2)
6sqrt(2) times sqrt(2)
Always remember if you multiply two equal numbers in square root, the square root will be removed
5sqrt(2) times sqrt(2) will become 5*2
ooh
i forgot abt that π
ok
so
10 + 12
22
yes!
I gotta go right now
Iβm sending several examples for the thing we just studied right now
try to solve them till Iβm back!
maybe after 30-45mins I will be back
No problem!
definitely solve them and tell me the answers
ok
β7(2β28 - β175)
β7(4β7 - 5β7)
4 * 7 - 5 * 7
28 - 35
-7
then
β3(β27 + β12)
β3(3β3 + 2β3)
9 + 6
15
C)
β5(β125 - β20)
β5(5β5 - β20)
β5(5β5 - 2β5)
25 - 10
15
D)
β13(4β52 + β117)
β13(8β13 + 3β13)
104 + 39
143
π₯³
btw
i was a bit unsure if i had to multiply both of the multiples by the number outside the brackets
Well
the thing you did was correct
for example when you have 2x3x5 you donβt multiply 2 to each 3 and 5
you just do 2x3x5=6x5=30
alr alr
sorry i was away
can u help me with a bit more complex problem ?
you mean harder with square roots?
Gimme a hard question from your book so I can get what type of question I should give you
no no smt like
(4x - 3 / x + 1) - (6x - 5 / 2x + 1) = 1
i put fractions in brackets
hmm
the thing you sent is almost the same as I have given here
isnβt it?
This
well yea
Gimme more examples to understand what I should give you
i need to do discriminants
Find the answers of this equation
ok so
a = 1
b = -3
c = 2
D = b^2 - 4ac
-3^2 - 4(1)(2)
9 - 8
1
x1 = (-b + sqrt(D)) / 2ac
x1 = (3 + 1) / 4
x1 = 1
x2 = (-b - sqrt(D)) / 2ac
x2 = 0.5
idk if this is correct
this is completely correct!!
what about this one π€
oh thats nice at least i didnt forget everything from the time i learnt abt discriminants π
a = 1
b = 1
c = -6
D = 1 - 4(-6)
D = 1 + 24
D = 25
x1 = -1 + 5 / -12
x1 = 4 / -12
wait what
i dont think i did this right
i got -0.33333 repeating
there is no problem with finding such a root, but here the root is not 1/3
The denominator is 2a and a=1 so the denominator is 2, not 12!!
wait how
isnt it 2ac
OHH
WAIT
nvm i mixed it up π
ok
so then yeah its 2 ig
x1 = 2
Yes and the other one?
x2 = (-1 - 5) / 2
-3
a = 1
b = -2
c = 1
D = b^2 - 4ac
i keep forgetting that the b is positive
anyways
-2^2 - 4
-8
then
No
?
oh right i forgot that sorry π
wait so D = 0
hows that possible
never seen that before
wait whats the square root of 0
ok look
if the delta is positive
there are two roots
if delta is 0, there is only one root
wait the D is called a delta?
oooh right i remember this i kinda forgot that
if delta is less than 0, there is no root
I think so?
i thought it was just called a discriminant
then Iβm wrong
thatβs probably what it is called
Iβm not native speaker so donβt take my words seriously π
wait one sec let me check
yes you are right that is called discriminant
i heard other people call it delta
wait what
I think both are correct
anyways solve the question!
once
alr
oh right so D = 0
x = (-b + sqrt(D)) / 2a
is this correct?
oh waiiitttt
waittt thats so cool
π
so i can write
Ikr
x = (-b + sqrt(D)) / 2a
or
x = (-b - sqrt(D)) / 2a
thats cool
anyways
the answer is
x = 1
alr
Find the roots of the following equation
ok
so firstly
i would do
x^2 - 4x + 3
like this
so it equals to 0
YES!
also btw discriminants only work when theres a zero right?
Yep
ahh ok
also
btw
when i subtract 4x from both sides
where do i place the negative 4x on the other part of the equation
like this
-4x + x^2 + 3
or like this
x^2 - 4x + 3
or this
x^2 + 3 - 4x
what if I tell you, all of them are correct?!1!
sorry im kinda stupid π
oohh okay thats good because i mightve been doing stuff for a while now wrong if it was incorrect π
i thought theres a difference in subraction or smt π
but writing it -4x + x^2 + 3 might make you to make mistakes
I used to think that way as well no worries xD
why
isnt it the same
that is the same
but like you might place -4 as βaβ
but in fact a is the coefficient of x^2
not anything in the equation
ax^2 + bx + c = 0
is the general form
but you can write it bx + ax^2 + c = 0 as well
but the formula would stay the same!
Great!!
maybe I will get it
I mean like numbers with powers higher than 2
for example
x^3 - 3 = 0
there is no formula!
You solve these types of questions with algebra
in fact, quadratic equations are solved with algebra as well
wdym
For example take a look this example that you solved not long ago
this expression on the left
Will turn into (x-2)(x+3)
then we know that if one of them is 0, then everything would become zero! (Why?)
x-2 = 0. x=2
x+3=0. X=-3
i dont get this
the same roots you found earlier
Lemme show you the process
alr
You firstly write x as -2x + 3x
Then you factor out x and 3 as shown below
why would u do that tho π
Oh nice
you might see why we do that in future π
I mean
for expressions like x^3 -2x^2 +5x -4 = 0
you have to factor out
there is no formula (there are some methods like finding one root and dividing by x-root but you donβt have to know that now!)
ok you were solving this problem
ok i will take that into account
what are the roots
oh right i kinda didnt finish it
find the roots and we will solve even harder problems after this one!!
x^2 - 4x + 3 = 0
a = 1
b = -4
c = 3
D = 16 - 12
D = 4
x1 = (-b + sqrt(D)) / 2a
x1 = 3
x2 = (-b - sqrt(D)) /2a
4 - 2 / 2
x2 = 1
also
btw
Yep!!
can i use ur pictures
yes ofc
this one i mean
feel free to use them
so i can like send it to my teacher in case he asks what im studying rn
tysm!!
Ofc!
btw @pine ridge can we solve smt else
other than the discriminants
right now
because
my exam is on saturday
and i havent really studied the other topics
Ok sure, letβs solve this last one and we are done
i think theres even a bit of geometry in it
this last one is an amazing problem
yeah sure
I want you to take a deep breath and think about this problem
i feel like albert einstein
find the value of m, such that the equation below only has one root!
bro π
what the flip
you know whatβs funny about this problem
βοΈ
wait rlly? π
what is the rule of having only 1 root?
i was thinking its that or u just ignore m completely
if the D = 0
ok now write D based on m
uhm
but wait
there's no exponents
how can u do
the quadratic discriminant formula
There is x^2
but its not m tho
And also there is x with coefficient-2m
ok let me think ig
just write the D and you will see!
ok
wait no
fistly
u assign the a b c
no?
what is a here?
Ok what about b
c = 2
Now what is c?
we are gonna have variables in the formula itself? π
Yeah lol
2m
Now based on the thing you said, write D
yeah i was just writing it lol
D = (-2m)^2 - 4(1)(2m)
D = 4m - 8m
i think
wdym
Nah itβs just a mistake
lol
so i got confused
got it
ok so 4m^2 - 8m
and what does that equal to?
you cant rlly simplify that tho can u?
This
You can
well
not simplifying
but factoring
wait this equation has 1 root only?
Yes
oohh
so D should equal 0
wait do u mean 4m^2 - 8m = 0 by that or what
well
You can use quadratic formula or you can factor out
oh yeah this u alr said it
(btw what does factor out mean)
oh
4m^2 - 8m = 0
a = 4
b = -8
c = 0
D = b^2 - 4ac
D = (-8)^2 - 4(4)(0)
D = 64 - 0
i think
oh ok thats nice that i didnt forget the zero
anyways
D = 64
so sqrt(D) = 8
since D > 0
there are 2 roots
x1 = (-b + 8) / 2a
x1 = (16) / 8
x1 = 2
OOHHH RIGHT AHAHHAHA π
i forgot π
No worries
Exactly!!
because 0 divided by anything is zero
this is the hardest question you can face in the stuff related to quadratic formula
Yes! (except 0/0)
yeah but tbh it will probably be way easier
yes!
itβs good to know hard problems
Iβm sure you agree with!
ok now whatβs the next topic we gonna be practicing
let me get my sheets out
tbh 0 divided by 0 is 1 because anything divided by itself is 1 π
itβs still not 1!
xD
not defined
Yeah
Alright nice
ah man I hate long questions π
what app do u use for this btw
ok before you do it
bro same no one likes them π
watch this video to get refreshed
lol
im too broke for that my mom uses it tho
Oh wow, for drawing?
yeah shes actually an artist
thatβs so nice
alright anyways whatβs the problem you wanted to send?
I suggest βibis paintβ if you wanna draw this kinda stuff
itβs free
yeah here it is i was drawing it out in my microsoft paint π
oh yeah i know it but i dont really draw
: means division right?
also nowadays u can get paid apps for free
yeah im pretty sure
Itβs not a good thing to do but yes you can
Ok great, first of all, tell me what you think about this problem?
yeah ik just sayin
its long
π
great π
ok the first thing is to know how simplifying works
before solving that problem
solve this one:
bro is cookin in procreate π₯
How would you simplify this fraction
bro i hate this so much
well
i guess we can remove x + 3
Correct!
And then what other stuff you can simplify?
do u code
im not sure if we can remove the x -2 because its multiplied by 2 in the numerator
I just installing βunreal engineβ and then did nothing xD
you can!
Iβm gonna learn it after school ends
ok one sec let me just show u smt cool
11th what about you?
search βsimplifying fractionsβ on the internet and watch some videos
check this out i made a snake game with accelaration and other cool stuff
alr sure !
THATS AWESOME
π
i cant tell if ur ironic or genuinely surprised π
alr alr
Thatβs actually very nice to see you have made that thing
I always wanted to learn coding
yeah but actually i got a python tutor recently he helped me
bye !
Do u know coding?
well saying that i can code is an overestimate π
i use javascript for websites and mainly python
i tried C++ before
c++
i like it but im more focuesed on python rn
bro its fast kinda π
anyways cya later mate!
alr bye go charge up or smt

bro what are these emojis π
Yeah 
yo wsp
Great to hear!
Wow nice, like what subjects?
but i didnt watch any math vids today
Oh
history and like social studies
Oh nice
Alright
Yes!
c = 7
oh wait
-1/2
i used to make mistakes with forgetting negatives before a lot π
Lol
No
no roots?
These negatives be ruining every thing π
yea but its probably irrational or smt
It's a number close to 4
oh ok
x1 = sqrt(14)
x2 = -b - sqrt(D)
so basically the same thing but negative
one sec
Bro's one second is way longer than our one second π
π
sorry i had to go eat
no problem
i got school tmmrw
also idk where u live but for me its like the evening time but i like to sleep early if i can
anyways so my math exam is in 3 days i think
Kk
π
bro uses random file names
vencord user
you donβt have to solve every quadratic equation with the discriminant formula, for some equations there are easier ways
yea but i will probably still use the discriminant formula just in case
like i might forget that its positive and negative at the end
yes, but generally try to solve it manually when the equation is simple
For example, take a look at this
alr alr but can we solve an easy question rn
it looks really easy
Which one?
but idk what it even wants me to do
it says
the one you were solving?
y = 15/x
Ok and then?
so the two roots are 0 and 2 right?
thats kinda clever
im not sure let me translate it
its not in english
(i dont understand it myself π)
it says "inverse proportionality is given by the formula"
wtf does that mean 
what the heck is that π
idk im assuming it wants x as the subject
so like
x equals to y something
I think it wants you to write y based on x right?
thatβs what generally inverse stuff mean
I gotta go sorry
I will be back in like 30-45 mins
wait no like x based on y i think
i will probably be sleeping by then π
alr i will try solving it
you might see some stuff like f(x) but donβt care about them
i actually had to learn functions before
last year
in grade 7
(i didnt understand anything)
but i later understood it from python
im a pro coder opji3rngjhetjhsetjπ
oh wow very nice!
what did you find for the inverse thing
the last one scares me
functions in math are weird
they are the most useful thing!!
f(x) = 5
find the f or x idk how it works
well
you cant believe how useful they are until you use them
never used them
alright
i have one problem
yes
with functions
yes?
uhm
i dont get it
i used to understand functions kinda in math when i actually had to do it a bit bc i had to study it after my exams last year
but i forgot
π
lol no worries
this is kinda not true
like i mean in math
i watched the second vid btw
f(x)=3x-4 means that you give a value for x as an input and function makes some changes to it (which here it is 3x-4) and then the function gives you the output or f(x), for example when you put x as 2, the function would say:
ok!
take 2 and multiply it by 3 and then subtract it by 4
you got 2!, thats the output so show:
f(2) = 2
you gave 2 to the function "f" and you got f(2) as your answer(which is 2)
yes bro thats exactly how i understand functions in math "they are some things that change the argument in it or smt"
exactly!
huh
thats the process
7
exactly!
i get it now
ok good
what if i tell you, if f(a) = 3, then what is the value of a?
ok so if a=3, then f(3) = 3 right?
f(x) = 2x+1
f(3) = 2*3 + 1 = 7
f(3) = 7
which proves that a=3 is not the answer!
try once more
wait no
where did u get the 2x + 1 from
i thought we tsrated new
this is what im talking about
ok nvm then sorry