#Reduce Row Echelon Matrix

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slow swan
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I have another question about reduced row echelon matrixs

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I did this problem and I think I did all the step’s correctly, but I seem to be seeing different answers online. Am I in the wrong? If so in which part? Thanks!

lapis drift
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@slow swan In your first step you did not do R1 = -R2 + R1 correctly

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take a look at the position (1,3)

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row 1 column 3

slow swan
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Oh dang it would be -1

slow swan
lapis drift
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no your approach is correct, it just needs to be tweaked a little

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also, are you going for REF or RREF

slow swan
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RREF

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I’m kinda confused now

lapis drift
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on what part

slow swan
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Moving forward from -R2 + R1

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Would I still do -R1 + R3 next

lapis drift
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i would recommend doing R3-R1 first to clear the spaces under your pivot position (R1 C1)

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then you would do R1 = R1 - R2

slow swan
lapis drift
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yea sorry

slow swan
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Wouldn’t this change the second zero in row one

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Would make it -1

lapis drift
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R1 = R1 - R2 would not change the second zero

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its very similar to what you just did

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this is what your matrix would look like after those two operations @slow swan

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then you would continue simplifying to RREF

slow swan
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Ok ok I think I got it

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I was looking at my old work that was wrong

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Ok so can we add row 2 and 3 to turn -1 to 0 on R3

lapis drift
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yes exactly

slow swan
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Then 1/2 on R3

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Right?

lapis drift
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yes

slow swan
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Then finally add row 1 and 2 to get R1

lapis drift
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not quite

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if you do R1 = R1 + R2 youll have a 1 in row 1 column 2, which you do not want

slow swan
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Sorry I meant row 3

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Lol

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add row 1 and 3

lapis drift
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yes thats right

slow swan
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Awesome

lapis drift
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then you still have one more step

slow swan
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Turn it into a equation then solve for each variable?

lapis drift
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well you can do that, but in RREF you want everything above and below your pivot positions to be 0

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so in that case, you'd want the positon (row 2, column 3) to be a 0

slow swan
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Did I mess up something I don’t see 3

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I have a 1 their

lapis drift
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yes, you want that to be a zero

slow swan
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Ohhh

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Ok

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Could I add -R3

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To R2

lapis drift
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yes

slow swan
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Ok bet