#Im completely stuck

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proud trellis
analog estuaryBOT
tired scarab
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can you factor x^2 - y^2

proud trellis
modern shoreBOT
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Kardiiacc

proud trellis
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am i on the right line?

tired scarab
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how are you going from (x+y)(x-y) = 1 to (x + y) = (x-y)?

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you are certainly going to reason about x and y from the first step that you did

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but the right line here is just to think about what it means for two integers to multiply to 1

proud trellis
tired scarab
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it's okay!

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but you are done with the symbolic manipulation once you factor in the first step

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you just need to realize that it's not possible for (x+y)(x-y) to ever be 1 (why is this true?)

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(remember that x and y are positive integers)

proud trellis
tired scarab
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exactly (or -1 and -1, but you will never have that case, since x and y are positive)

tired scarab
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what if i told you that both factors were 1 what would you say to me

proud trellis
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x would have to be negative as its both -y and +y to get 1

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or 0*

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Oh wait i think i got that wrong

tired scarab
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think about what we supposed for the sake of contradition - that x and y were both positive integers

proud trellis
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So (x+y) = 1 and (x-y) = 1 and by sake of contradiction, there is atleast on positive integer that has the solution x^2-y^2 = 1. Use simulataneous equation to solve for y. 2y = 0, y = 0. Plug in y and x = 1. but there is atleast one positive integer tho

tired scarab
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well what would it mean for x + y = 1

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specifically

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we can get a contradiction right here

proud trellis
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Ohhh there is no positive integer that can add to get 1

tired scarab
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yep catthumbsup

proud trellis
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Lolll i didnt even realise

tired scarab
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lol i remember doing this problem for the first time and it was really confusing to me

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and then i saw it and I was like omg

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okay so you should write out the full contradiction proof (either on your paper or here) and then you're done

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are you comfortable with writing a contradiction proof?