#Trig Function reduction
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Isn't cos(cos(x)) • sin(cos(x)) − cos(cos(x)) • sin(cos(x)) = 0
Wouldn't that be equalivent to for example 2sin(x)a-a? And doesn't follow PEMDAS right?
So substituting some random variables 2x*5-5?
Is this an alegbra rule?
If so, can you let me know which one.
distributive property
a(b+c) = ab + ac
2sin(x)[a-a] = 2sin(x)[0] = 0
or
2sin(x)[a-a] = 2sin(x)a - 2sin(x)a = 0
Okay. Let me try to rework this problem real quick
I don't understand your problem anyway
The original question was find y': y=cos^2cos(x)+sin^2(cosx)
adonhs
That's funny, you don't need chain rule 😄
adonhs
So actuall you have y = 1 and the derivative of a constant is always 0
Yes, I'm familiar with that identify. But I wanted more practice with the chain rule using prime notation
Oh that's fine
adonhs
Yeah I think you did very well
I had help with the answer I got, actually. Can you help walk me thru the problem?
which problem
The problem we just solved
well it's essentially chain rul
Can I walk thru the steps?
adonhs
Same with 1 more funciton
Keep in mind you always keep the argument
And chain rule works like, first you differentiate the outer function, then you differentiate the inner ones
So the first expansion is $$\frac{d}{dx}(cos(cosx))^2$$
jboi72
Then $$2(cos(cosx)\frac{d}{dx}(cos(cosx))\frac{d}{dx}(cosx)$$
jboi72
adonhs
This only
adonhs
Otherwise you differentiate here cos(x) twice
the derivative of cos(x) is already here
One chain rule has basically 2 derivatives
Okay. and the we get $$2sinx(cos(cosx)sin(cosx)$$
You can basically imagine that the differential operator d/dx is moving in to the next inner function kinda
after getting down with the previous derivative
So d/dx for $$y=cos^2(cos(x))=2(cos(cosx)-sin(cosx)-sinx$$
jboi72
i can't follow
d/dxcos(x) = -sin x correct?
yes
Wasn't this your answer?
So this is the first part of our equation, correct?
I am sorry but the way you wrote it confuses me
I thought this would be self-explanatory
We next need to find the derivative for $$sin^2x(cosx)$$
, correct?
jboi72
Yeah also
I just did the cosine part
it's about the principle
also it would be double the work to write the whole shit🫠
$$-2sin(cosx)(cos(cosx)sinx$$
jboi72
This is the second answer correct?
so place -2sinx in front and then factor it out?
yea factor out 2sin(x)
the minus is not a common factor tho
but if you still factor it out you need to make up for it
like
2ax - 2ay = 2a(x-y)
your way:
2ax - 2ay = -2a(-x+y) = -2a(y-x)
Okay. Yeah, so I did it right. Initially, just didn't factor out.
Anything you want to add, if not I'll close this post.
nah man haha