#Root fractions

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restive otter
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Hello, can anyone explain how to solve a question like this one? I have a hard time with some of these exercises.
Thanks in advance.

worthy wedgeBOT
rare lichenBOT
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adonhs

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adonhs

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adonhs

restive otter
potent lava
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You can simply google the power rules

restive otter
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Yes thanks. I know the power rules. But after step 2 I don't know.

potent lava
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Split the root

restive otter
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Because I came on an other answer as the answerbook

rare lichenBOT
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adonhs

restive otter
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I did

potent lava
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3^2 and 2^2 is very nice

restive otter
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Thats sqrt(3^2) * 3 and sqrt(2^2) * 3

potent lava
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no

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sqrt(3) * 3

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and sqrt(2^3) = sqrt(2^2 * 2)

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not 2^2 * 3

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and then sqrt(2^2) * sqrt(2)

restive otter
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Huh yes I have that, wait ill try to illustrate.

potent lava
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yea that's wrong the right

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It should be

rare lichenBOT
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adonhs

restive otter
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Okay thanks, is that the standard rule when you have a power of 3 or more?

potent lava
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no the laws above are general

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you just need to apply them correct

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like

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how come 2³ = 2² * 3???

restive otter
potent lava
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where does the 3 come from

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yes

restive otter
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Sorry men, I don't know. I just tried and thought like that.

potent lava
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that's ok just trying to understand

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the key is to find the root cause of mistakes 😄

restive otter
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So, I know the correct answer but it doesn't make sense (yet) for me.

potent lava
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they probably rationalized the denominator

restive otter
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sqrt(3^2) should be 3 due to the answer but I honestly don't get that

potent lava
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3^2 = 9

restive otter
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Like isn't it sqrt(9)

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yeah

potent lava
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square root of 9 is 3

restive otter
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9 I ean

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Yes true

potent lava
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you can also rewrite the root

restive otter
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3 is correct

rare lichenBOT
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adonhs

restive otter
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But why is sqrt(2^2) == 4?

rare lichenBOT
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adonhs

potent lava
restive otter
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Not in the answerbook 😦

potent lava
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square root of 4 is 2

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well what is the result

restive otter
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3/4 sqrt(6)

rare lichenBOT
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adonhs

restive otter
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this answer

restive otter
potent lava
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Now notice

restive otter
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these sqrt(3) is added to each other for 6

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sqrt(6)

potent lava
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It's common in math to rationalize the denominator

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that means to get rid of any root in the denominator

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it's just a convention

rare lichenBOT
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adonhs

potent lava
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Now you will see the solution 🙂

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It's called rationalizing the denominator

restive otter
potent lava
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which is not really necessary but it is waht it is

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it's a convention

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hope u undertstand

restive otter
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Ill try to see it now

potent lava
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you should be able to now simplify

restive otter
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I'm really sorry, but I don't know where you'd get that srt(2) on both sides from. Is it the last power^2 or what?

potent lava
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if you identify the root of the denominator it's sqrt(2)

restive otter
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Ah ofcourse my bad.

potent lava
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and we know sqrt(x) * sqrt(x) = x

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this is what we want

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so we extend the fractions with sqrt(2)/sqrt(2) legally

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basically rewrite the thing "nicer"

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the terms are still equal

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it's like making 1/2 -> 2/4 by extending with 2/2

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they are still both the same

rare lichenBOT
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adonhs

potent lava
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yes

restive otter
potent lava
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i just tried to explain the steps, the actual reasoning behind rationalizing the denominator is to my knowledge a convention thing

restive otter
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Okay, thank you. Coming back for this very soon. I saw the video is 6 minutes maybe it get me further in your explanation.

potent lava
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the video explains the why and me the how

restive otter
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Aahhh now I understand the concept much better, atleast, for this specific exercise. The other exercises should have the same framework/concept for solving it. I got to sharpen my English on math-level.

With that being said: i'll sum up from what i've learned/done the last idk 40/50 minutes.

  1. Work out brackets
  2. Make the power of 3 to power of 2 and multiply by that power with a root (3,2)
  3. Than both the power roots simplify root(3^2) = 3 and root(2^2) = 2
  4. Rationalize the denominator both by root(2)
  5. Simplify the root(4) underneath because obviously root 4 = 2
  6. multiply 2 * 2 which equals 4 in the denominator. Voila you're done!
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Thanks a lot @potent lava and @wild turtle . I clearly understand the concept much better right now.

potent lava
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i hope you can apply this to many examples now

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understanding > memory

restive otter
restive otter
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thanks a lot again!! Human explanation >>> AI explanation (as for now)

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